Thread 64102779

Or does it only provide a temporary sense of false-happiness

>>64102779 (OP)
It did. I became much happier and calm after I got a rifle

>>64102779 (OP)
the only things i collect are cheap as fuck snowglobes whenever i travel to a country, as a reminder of where i've been.
collecting expensive shit that you won't even use since you'll inevitably find a few guns you'll enjoy shooting and only use those, seems pointless to me.

>>64102779 (OP)
Collecting guns is gay
Shooting guns is what fufills

>>64102779 (OP)
Yes. Consumerism wont lead to fulfilment. Duh. Obviously.

>>64102779 (OP)
The one good thing about "collecting" guns is convincing no guns friends to go to the range with you and showing up with a dozen different things for them to try out.
And they never basically never lose value as long you don't let them rust. The base guns that is, any accessories/customizations will usually lose value, sometimes almost all of it.

>>64102779 (OP)
All happiness is temporary. There is no permanent state of happiness you unlock.
Even Buddhist style enlightenment will not give you that.

The trick is to pace yourself on the hedonic treadmill.

>>64102779 (OP)
I have 2 ar's, a full size 9mm, compact 9mm, 30-06 rifle, 10/22, and a 12g with 2 barrels. I literally don't need anything else, I just shoot them, and that in itself is fulfilling.

>>64102779 (OP)
Not just guns, but anything. It creates a future void in your life. Source? Me... Did it with games, plamos and (almost) old cars (skiped in time).

Got only 2 guns because live in a commie shithole. But if I was in a pro-gun country, would just buy 5-6 guns to enjoy it better and put my rights into use. Basically:

- Small revolver + small carbine for plinkster/ludic purposes.
- Good shotgun for HD.
- Good SA/DA for CC.
- Good AR/AK for end of times.
- Some other weapon I like much (maybe for some extra autistic points).

But not real collection... You become a slave.
Things should stay pratical to be healthy enjoyed.

>>64102779 (OP)
No, just get a gen 3 g19 and an 11.5 PSA AR

>>64102869
>image
high level comfy

i like mechanical autism shit too much and it will be the death of me one day when i try to go too over my head and design or use something that explodes in my face
for actual shooting i like to keep it simple and in manual action despite all the guns with FRTs I have

>>64102869
kino

youre going to love this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTU0XEzJtWQ

>>64102845
Based minimalism + utilitarism enjoyer.

>>64102832
nah. the trick is to get sunshine, exercise, eat right, and socialize with friends and family. the pleasures offered by hedonism are unrelated to happiness. happiness is a state of health and not a mood

>>64103073
US civilians could wage wars to the whole planet with just that. And win easy.

>>64104361
Lol. Just wait and see bud.

>>64102779 (OP)
Depends on the person.

We live in a material world and need tools and toys to live and be happy, but how much is too much?

Personally, I try to keep any collection of anything under a dozen items, and if I want something new, I need to get rid of something old.

Also, try to avoid impulse buys, if you want to buy something, try studying it for a month before actually getting it, to see if your interest wanes with time.

>>64104373
nta but you should start meditating. your limiting beliefs have shaped your life. the inverse can also be true if you unfuck your mind.

>>64104483
You'll understand what I mean when you're older.

>>64104545
I understand exactly what you mean anon, I used to be there myself. Keep receiving what you expect though, you clearly enjoy it.

I am 34 years old, a kissless virgin, and have very few friends.

Collecting guns, traveling and fixing up vintage motorcycles is what keeps me from offing myself.

>>64104551
>you think happiness is a transient human emotion?
>have you tried... HAVING FRIENDS??? or what about.... SUNSHINE???? that makes me happy all the time forever
You have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about.

>>64104577
Just because it's a biochemical process doesn't mean it's pointless. You write like a teenager, especially with that "when you're older" crap.

>>64104585
Did I say anything about biochemical processes or pointlessness? Stupid fuck.

>>64104577
>frogposter has life figured out
Lose that ego. You're a loser that experiences disappointment because that's what you believe you deserve.

>>64104594
Well you said transient which implies that the impermanent nature of happiness makes pursuing it vain, hence pointless. I did assume you were arguing from a nihilistic determinist stance.
Of course you could also just say what you mean and not dance around your own talking point for the next ten posts.

>>64102832
I didn't pace myself. Now it's bad all the time. I have to pay the troll toll to get the boy's hole.

>>64104681
>filename
>writing style
>random support to someone's dumbshit ideas of hedonism
>>64104594
>>64104577
Samefag check

>>64104689
>implying implications implicitly
Just type what you were going to say instead of being a dipshit.

>>64104708
A samefag check isn't an implication you fucking retard. You failed it, by the way.

It fills my hole might fine.

>>64104718
>he can't write or read
fuck off retard

>>64104595
>projecting and seething

>>64104610
>transient which implies that the impermanent nature of happiness makes pursuing it vain
That doesn't imply that, stupid. Your entire existence is transient.

Happiness is not a state of being. If you try to chase "happiness" as some life state that you can achieve when you tick enough boxes you will not find it because it does not exist. No amount of material possessions, money, friends, family, power, etc. can make you happy in that way. All of it is temporary, because happiness is temporary. You will always adjust to your conditions.
The idea that you shouldn't buy guns because it's "hedonistic" or whatever is stupid. It's all hedonism. Buy that gun, enjoy it while it's enjoyable, then move on. You just won't be permanently happy once you have X number of guns in your collection. Friends, material goods, your health, they're no different.

I would be happy if I could stick a pistol through the screen and kill hiroshimoot, the mods, and the motherfuckers spamming shitty threads.

>>64104724
>refinished 7,63 with fake red 9 grips
deep down you know you will always be unsatisfied

>>64104737
When you redefine activities that are positive for mental health as hedonism, it's probably pretty easy to stalemate any argument about it. Don't get me wrong, I agree with the "while it's enjoyable" part. I think what you're missing from >>64104361 is that some enjoyable activities should be prioritized over others. His observation is that your own enjoyment of the world around you, regardless if that's hedonism, is stunted by a lack of sunshine, exercise, etc. Buying a new gun doesn't satisfy the same way or level as a good social interaction. That's what you're missing here: not all things weigh the same.
You still didn't pass the samefag check. Just to demonstrate, picrel.

>>64104815
That kind of samefag check isn't very reliable

>>64104737
>projecting
And yet I'm not the one that's miserable. Its time to log off and do some self reflection

>>64104815
>I'm schizophrenic that thinks every post is the same person
I'm actually every post in this thread including you
you've been in a coma for 10 years
you need to wake up

>When you redefine activities that are positive for mental health as hedonism
Hedonism is pleasure seeking. Maximization of happiness, minimization of pain.
Hedonism is not when someone does something that (you) don't like.

>your own enjoyment of the world around you... is stunted by a lack of sunshine, exercise
Did this come to you in a dream? Or is this another product of your schizophrenic delusions?

>Buying a new gun doesn't satisfy the same way or level as a good social interaction.
Does buying a new gun preclude you from going outside or something?
If anything, a new gun is the perfect reason for a range trip with your friends.

>>64104876
>you're miserable!!!
pure, unmitigated projection

>>64104896
I appreciate that you approach hedonism from its legitimate philosophical origin. I have to give you props on that. You even topped it off with
>if anything, a new gun is the perfect reasons for a range trip with your friends
You closed the discussion better than I could have. But not everyone that demands a samefag check is a shizo. You should know perfectly well that plenty of jackasses come here and try to pass themselves off as a second person.
Also
>schizophrenic delusion
Like I said, it was his >>64104361 observation. That counts as groupthink, not a delusion.
Overall though you won our argument. Have an image macro.

>>64102785
this.
>>64102787
not this.

this is about half my guns at this point, I can't be assed to get them all out for another photo.

>>64102869
>that image
imagine all the spiders and creepy crawlies

>>64102779 (OP)
yeah
now the hole is that I need to keep buying ammo so I can shoot it more

>>64105125
needs more variety, too many ak, ar, and glock variations

>>64105416
this is why PCCs are just more fun
i love shooting cheap 9mm, especially with an FRT

>>64102787
100%. I've spent way more money on ammo than guns.

>>64108058
As you should

>>64102787
>>64108058
Shooting guns at a range is just OK. You get bored of putting holes into paper after a while. I like it well enough, but if I were restricted to just a bare bones utilitarian AR and a glawk, I would almost never do it.
For me it's collecting and using the firearms together that is fun. And maintaining them, upgrading them, dialing everything in to my preferences, etc. I love taking my own guns to the range but again, if I were forced to use loaners or basic cheapshit I wouldn't like it nearly as much.

Skeet is another story though.

>>64108179
>Skeet is another story though.
we'll agree on this. shooting clay is the best rec shooting there is and it ain't even close.
>And maintaining them, upgrading them, dialing everything in to my preferences, etc. I love taking my own guns to the range but again, if I were forced to use loaners or basic cheapshit I wouldn't like it nearly as much.
I can get by the 'loaner' sentiment you got here. If it weren't for the fact that the few guns I do own are tailored to my tastes and preferences I wouldn't be nearly as excited about the hobby. Because of this, I just bought a few of them, fucked around with them til they were exactly what I wanted, and shoot the shit and piss out of them.

>>64102779 (OP)
>>buy a new gun
>>notice small chip or defect that ruins it that 99% of people wouldn't care about

so no

>>64102779 (OP)
Temporary is better than nothing

>>64102779 (OP)
No that was the dragon dildo.
The guns MAKE holes. Well not for the dragon dildos.
If you know what I mean.

Materialism is based, that "Buddha" guy was just assmad cuz he died poor

>>64102779 (OP)
Collecting in general quickly leads to diminishing returns. The trick is to focus on quality over quantity.

>>64102869
My family used to have a tv like that as a kid, they are ridiculously heavy.

>>64109844
>he never had to move a 42" CRT as a child
you are like a weak little baby

>>64102779 (OP)
I don't operate at that level
I see shiny I buy
Man / seagull hybrid

>>64104368
>And win easy.
lol, lmao even

>>64102779 (OP)
That depends, do you shoot the guns or do they stay in a safe? With functional items I only really enjoy them when I use them, but having a good selection of things to use is nice.
>>64102786
Cheap tchotchkes are the way to go for collectibles imo. They might not be worth much if you're looking for a money-making hobby but with stuff like your snow globes it's more about where it's from than what it is. When I was a traveling referee I would always buy a T-shirt from the home team as a memento.

>>64102779 (OP)
I buy them to learn the nuances about how they work. If it fits a need then I keep it and continue using it. Otherwise I sell it and get something else to learn about

>>64116167
Based shiney object enjoyer

>>64102832
> The trick is to pace yourself
this.
thats why I haven't gotten myself a gf yet nor did any of that other stuff I always dreamt about
gotta keep the arc filled with tension instead of having 30 y/o of filler after all

>>64116167
> I don't operate at that level
> I see shiny I buy
kinda same here
other people buy fancy I Phone to get new high
meanwhile I buy new fancy cup for 2 dollar and have joy for weeks

>>64108179
You should really try shooting competitions other than skeet. Start with something simpler, such as steel challenge, then move on to more dynamic stuff, like IDPA, IPSC or 3gun, and find one you enjoy.
Seeing your scores improve over time as you practice is a great feeling. I highly recommend getting a shot timer, mobile apps are not reliable enough.

>>64102779 (OP)
It depends on what. Some guns serve a practical function, some are just because I got a good deal, some because they are iconic in some way.

Really though I just spent a long time buying/selling/trading just to learn about guns firsthand. I have been impressed by cheap/low end guns and disappointed by expensive/rare ones. But sometimes you find something that is rare and really worth it too.

As a result I have a prolific collection of mostly neat or interesting guns that are junk and not really worth any serious money, punctuated by a few that are actually somewhat expensive and desirable. Anything that is worth serious money better blow me away, or else it isn't going to be worth keeping.

>>64102779 (OP)
no, shooting them does.

>>64102779 (OP)
Yes, I really like my guns and I've been alot happier since I first got into them. Now, I have HATED gunsooming and am happy that I've finally sorta settled on a cast of guns that I really like and are pretty tuned to my preferences. I'll probably continue to fidget with them, but fidgeting is way better than building a new AR every month because you are testing a ton of stuff to see what sticks

I have 2 guns and glock 17 and an ar-15 and I've shot neither due to being a massive pussy with anxiety at going to the range, terrified at making a mistake. It's clear I'm never going to go. I've spent likely 2500$ or more on guns that if I were to need to use I'll be horrible with.

Recently I've started looking at revlovers and want a .357 magnum and have come close to ordering it but thankfully pussied out. I know I'll never shoot it and it will spend the rest of it's days chilling out in my nightstand.

>>64117190
sounds like you'd benefit from some proper classes.

>>64117209
I'll never sign up for them or go. I don't handle social situations well and I'm very nervous around other people. I feel like an instructor would just laugh at me.

>>64117190
Maybe you should sell them and use the money for a different hobby. If you are this scared of guns then you probably shouldn't own them. There's no shame in it.

>>64117235
I'm not scared of guns I'm scared of the social interaction of going to the range to shoot them.

>>64117164
You're flinching/anticipating recoil. Fix that

>>64117190
> terrified at making a mistake
why? if you do someone will correct you and you'll be smarter for it. then you can shoot all you want!

>>64117292
I realize the fear isn't rational but after being seen as 'smart' my whole life I can't handle being seen as dumb or not knowing what to do. That's why I hate new situations.

>>64117305
>but after being seen as 'smart' my whole life I can't handle being seen as dumb or not knowing what to do. That's why I hate new situations.
A-are you me? Being seen doing something wrong/dumb, especially in public is something I too am very nervous about and will avoid.

>>64117305
either get over it or never learn anything new I guess. Good luck.

>>64117305
>>64117317
> I can't handle being seen as dumb or not knowing what to do
you just gotta cope with this shit

i always thought i just had to man up - but after seing literal NCOs with combat experience act like little schoolboys after getting corrected by higher ranking NCOs I've come ot the realization that everyone acts dumb and the only trick is gaining as much knowledge as possible - which you can't do if you shelter yourself from learning because you are scared

>>64117360
>only trick is gaining as much knowledge as possible - which you can't do if you shelter yourself from learning because you are scared
This.

>>64117209
Agreed, instruction sounds like the perfect solution. Anon gets to learn, and it's not in a social setting so the pressure is taken away.

>>64117228
>I don't handle social situations well
Take 1-on-1 lessons, that way it it's a business transaction and not a social situation.
>I feel like an instructor would just laugh at me.
I guarantee that no how big of a sperg you are they've seen bigger spergs.

I used to have a variant of this problem. I had been shooting since I was a kid, but never shotguns. A lot of my associates looked at me like the local gun expert but I knew fuck all about shotguns, other than having blasted cans with one once, which teaches very little. I bought a shotgun and booked lessons at my local skeet range. No pressure because it's just 1-on-1. I told the instructor I was familiar with guns in general just not with shottys. Dude taught me the proper hold, how to lead targets, how the stock shape affects the gun's fit, etc and after 3 weekends I was busting 20/25 clays easy.

>>64102779 (OP)
Yes

>>64117317
Are you also a piece of shit?

>>64102779 (OP)
Can't really collect anything in this economy. I just buy a few different guns for different made up roles. Shoot them a couple times and then they collect dust. If I decide I "need" a new one, I sell the old one that fulfilled whatever role I made up. Really you just need a good dependable handgun and rifle. Probably shotgun now too since drones.

>>64117190
If it's of any help, ranges are just for test firing guns or for extreme noobs who will only shoot once. You go just to get the basic safety down and fire a gun for the first time. They're for noobs explicitly, anyone who goes to a range more than once is just an idiot. You have to go out to a safe place to shoot in an uninhabited area in order to actually be able to draw from the holster, do reload drills, failure drills, movement drills, etc. Ranges won't even let you draw from the holster which is day one shit that should be done before even firing a gun. You can never simulate real gun usage at those stupid noob ranges, complete gimmick.