Thread 64114734

If youre the military leader of a shithole how do you prevent the military couping you? Not like you can take away their weapons or claim youre the legitimate government

Have a secret police almost as large and with better funding. This is what the IRGC is, and to some extent the MVD, especially during the 90s.

>>64114734 (OP)
Make civilian ownership of firearms legal and go out of my way to NOT harass property owners and small businesses unless they're scamming or harming people. Also B& all Saudi's Russians Israeli's Americans British and Pakistani's from entering my borders so they can't do antagonistic glownigger or terrorist shit or at the very least have very VERY strict laws for tourists from those countries that basically requires them to have a tourist officer hover over their shoulder everywhere they go and have clearly defined no go zones they're forbidden from entering. Literally everyone from every other country however I'd be inclined to not give a fuck about them and would welcome the the tourist economy with open arms.
No need for a mountain of bullshit laws and bureaucracies, keep things simple so even the dumbest of dumb fucks know how to not become a felon.
Also just in case I'd have a royal guard that's better equipped than the actually standing army and their sole purpose would be to guard my ass.

So basically be a LoLbet dictatorship I guess.

>>64114734 (OP)
Transition to a democratic system of government and institute both rules
of law and civillian oversight of the military
What are they gonna do, coup themselves?

>>64114734 (OP)
>how do you prevent the military couping you?
pay your soldiers

>>64114734 (OP)
Reduce the level of shitholery, gain public support and arm the population.

Do what Hitler did with the SS and Gestapo - have my own private army that will make the national army think twice before trying anything, and have a ring of informers and thugs to take care of anyone that gets any funny ideas.

>>64114748
It's what Hitler did too, the SS/SD were the political force loyal exclusively to Hitler and the party and not Germany itself like the Werhrmacht. He knew the old guard in the military might try to pull some shit at some point and they in fact did, multiple times, though the major one of course was the July 20 assassination attempt.

>>64114734 (OP)
personally id flee and resign
if my skin color is counterfactual i may have to imbezzle a bit while doing this but it's a crime i'm willing in imagination land

>>64114734 (OP)
You'd need to look at what primitive pre-modern societies did because functionally that is what you are, visigoths and Bedouin with AKs.

>Bring in foreign soldiers who are entirely loyal to you
Risk they realize "Wait a sec, I'm in charge not you"
>Favor some praetorian guard
Ibid
>Favor your ethnic group
Makes other groups more pissed, doesn't stop intra-ethnic tension

>>64114792
Only solution so far.

The problem is you have to let the internet in and everyone gets radicalized by twitter.

>>64115221
The Nords have solved that, they include media literacy at every level of education pointing out how opinion pieces are reported as fact, how language is used to shape opinions and how what is reported on not reported also shapes narratives.
Most countries aren't willing to implement this kind of education because it makes the population harder to control for everyone the government included.

>>64114748
How do you prevent the secret police from couping you?

>>64115231
That works only until the education budgets get slashed. Now we have natives who can't understand normal contract text.

>>64115298
Psych profiles, ideological fanaticism and gibs

>>64114792
>>64115221
>hello i am the military leader, we are now going to transition to democracy
>get couped to prevent this from happening
Retards. Democracy isn't a switch you can just pull.

>>64115367
maybe you cant but the big boys in charge gave me the democracy lever and it's my turn to pull it

>>64115367
Spain managed to do it. Though it required Franco to become worm food.

>>64115377
Ok I believe you

>>64114734 (OP)
>If youre the military leader of a shithole how do you prevent the military couping you?
Keyword
>shithole
mass bribery, nothing else work because shitskins don't understand the notion of "economy" or "nation", they can only understand their own instincts like animals, so if you want to rule them you have to use them as such.
monkey want banana, monkey get banana, monkey has banana but don't want to do what i tell him to do ? monkey is dead.
simple and effective.

>>64115367
I never said it would be easy, only that it must be done.

>>64114734 (OP)
>Repeated mutinies
>Insubordination
>Desertions
>Rivalries between units
>Conflicts between the presidential guard and the army's general staff
>Dozens of soldiers, junior and senior officers arrested
>Strategic bases lost or evacuated under enemy threats
>Soldiers left to face certain death
>Jihadis multiplying offensives, seizing control
>Army capitulating in key regions without firing a shot
>Multiple new attacks on Wagner units, armored vehicles destroyed, equipment burned, suicide attack with a booby-trapped motorcycle on a Russian convoy
>Chinese workers taken hostage
>North = lost
>South = infiltrated
>Economy in freefall as Generalissimo Obongo makes lavish and ostenatious trips to eat caviar in Russia
>Social anger RISING
>Regimes now simulating response to complex attacks on capital cities
>A.I.-generated R. Kelly videos singing their praises multiplying
Going great

>>64115399
considerably easier in spain than... let me scroll up
Mali

>>64115404
you shouldnt dummy this is why they give me the lever and not you

>>64115607
Damn that's crazy
Anyway, the sportsball's on!

>>64114734 (OP)

See >>64114792

Your shithole will most likely just wind up transitioning back to (weak) democracy within a generation or two so you might as well get ahead of the curve.

>>64114748
>>64115050

The IRGC is basically what the SS would have turned into if the Third Reich had survived for long enough. A Qanon-tier glownigger deep state that’s massively corrupt and almost totally useless at anything other than state terrorism.

>>64114734 (OP)
>Option 1
Gut the army of funding and manpower so that they can't threaten your government. The impotent army stands aside as Islamic fundamentalist terrorists kill you.
>Option 2
Build a substantial paramilitary force that answers directly to political control, equivalent to a double digit percentage of the army's strength if not outright more powerful. If they don't coup you themselves and remain loyal, they sure as hell will fuck up the country after you're gone.
>>64114792
Highly susceptible to corruption and manipulation in the absence of a highly educated voting base, or one with vast ethnic/political/regional tension like in many African nations. Hell, even developed countries have become victim to subversion like this. A lot of undeveloped African countries simply cannot handle a rapid transition to full democracy without decades of groundwork.

>>64115666
>Option 3
Ask the West, especially the French, to come back and fix things (again).

>>64115645
>almost totally useless at anything other than state terrorism
Welp you don't need anything else from them anyway

>>64115298
By having their economic situation directly connected to the survival of your regime.

>>64115811
Pas mon probleme

>>64115891
The French love to get involved. They might even be gifted a stick.

>>64115893
You son of a bitch, I'm in

>>64114734 (OP)
>If youre the military leader of a shithole how do you prevent the military couping you?
That means you failed as a dictator in the first place
Basically the first thing successful dictators do is stuff the army full of loyal stooges of below average competence, and the second is forming competing troops loyal to you alone, call it revolutionary guard, rosgvardia whatever you want

Be benevolent!

>>64114734 (OP)
Let the generals get away with rampant corruption so they don't start thinking things would be better for them if they couped me.

>>64114734 (OP)
>perform a coup
>WTF you can coup me????
They set the precedent themselves

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