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>>64119056 (OP)
2011 building blog post

Maybe I should have watched a video of how to build a 2011 first. Half way into fitting the ejector I realized I should have pinned it to the frame first, now if I fuck up cutting the slot of the ejector leg I’ve wasted all the time I spent fitting it.

Also I bought the wrong extractor, this Wilson combat one is like a commander extractor and I needed a GI extractor to fit this Springfield TRP slide. So I have a gap.

New Walther came in. Need to run drills with it and grab pics.

>>64119077
huh!

is glock the best grip angle? Just like how the Soviets were putting vertical pistol grips on their AKs and SVDs?

>>64119459
Yes glock is perfect everything they do is the best way to do it

>>64119459
no, its unnatural. anyone who says they're fine with it is coping.

>>64119459
It depends on the person. There is no "best" in general. I have taken a ton of new shooters to range over the years and some shoot better with Glocks, some don't. Some prefer the feel some don't.

>>64119399
Ejector I meant, there’s different ejectors for GI vs commander/officer/all other models

>>64119459
I used to not like it very much, better for recoil control but didn't present as naturally. Then the standard 18ish degrees suddenly started disagreeing with me on presentation, went back to Glock and focused on pointing with the thumb/firearms instead of index finger for presentation. Works better for me now than the standard. So its really a personal preference thing, but most people should be fine with either with a bit of practice.

The problem with Glocks isn't the grip angle, it's that the trigger and the design of the trigger shoe itself aren't as forgiving as other designs.

>>64119459
idk I instantly hated it, found the P226 and P08 much nicer.
that said most of the magazine in grip pistols will be slightly off angle.

>>64120334
Kek, looks like the guy in the pic could have benefited from a Glock

>>64119459
I don’t understand how you can post this and say the Glock grip angle is better then the 1911 when you infographic shows that the 1911 puts the trigger finger parallel with the bore and so is the trigger pull direction since it’s a straight pull

>>64120334
is this why the mainspring housing got that humpback in the A1

>>64120334
Too little masturbation will cause this issue.

>>64120373
mayhaps
>>64120401
tfw pistol correction chart is all jerk

>>64120600
>>64120334
glocktroon?

>>64120616
Non.

What’s a good polymer or maybe alloy frame DA/SA that’s no larger than a G19, preferably even a little smaller but not as small as a subcompact (not a fan on G26 size double stacks, I carried a P30sk for a while and don’t want to go back to that size). I’ve been carrying my Makarov instead of my G19 just for kicks and have been enjoying it but it’s a heavy little gun.

>>64120734
A PX4 Storm since you can get the Langdon meme installed to give it the best DA/SA trigger out there and the meme Langdon cut for optics too.

>>64120734
There's really no DA/Sa polymer on the market that can beat the PX-4 when it comes to conceal carry

>>64120763
sig sp2022?

>>64120734
In addition to the PX4 mentioned by the other anons, there's also the P2000. I think CZ has something in that size range but idk cause CZoy lol

>>64120771
It's good, but it lacks after market support.

>>64120783
How good? There’s one at my LGS that’s been sitting for years, it’s got a price of $660 on it but I wonder if I could make them an offer to finally take it off of their books.

>>64120734
>Between subcompact and compact sized
Hmmm, really the 92 compact comes to mind. Most people don't like that it's between sizes but if that's what you're looking

>>64120800
It's basically a polymer p229r. Conceals decently and its a sig (this used to have more credibility). Its a cheaper baby brother of the p229. DA/SA pulls are decently, but I don't remember since its been a while since I've handled it. I think $660 is horseshit. I got mine for $400, came with the original box, a cheap OTB and 4 mags (2 cuck mags and 2 standard capacity). Also, it was near pristine for being used. The suckers at cabelas listed it too low.

Really regretting not getting a COA Glonk when I had the chance because it was a 45 and I wanted the 47.

>>64121113
Don't beat yourself up too much, the fact that it leans back instead of being a perfect rectangle pisses me off.
Plus there's a good chance that, if the optics hold up, you'll be able to pick up a copsurp or fedsurp one in the future for cheap.

>>64119077
Based, I'm building a 1911 currently

>>64121211
I genuinely cannot believe they didn't lean into the box aesthetics and make it a beveled rectangle. The leaning design looks gay as fuck while a rectangle projects dominance.

Bought a Star BM from pawn shop aaaand the mag catch sheered a little.
I thought the barrel link was the only real issue these had being shitty Spanish steel. I don't want another mag catch if it just gonna do this. Options?

>>64121364
The gun in question. 200$.

>>64121364
Is it a 1911 mag catch? It’s a 1911 clone

>>64119056 (OP)
how are these fucking idiots so incompetent? they think they aren't the retarded ones but they actually are...

>>64121387
How are we supposed to understand what this is a screenshot of

Are they teasing us?

>>64121408
Honestly, kinda always wanted a 5906 TSW. Could see a moderately revised one being somewhat popular if the price point isn't too high

>>64121397
By not being socially awkward and participating in other gun communities. Its the broken site redesign of ar15.com.

>>64120256
>better for recoil control but didn't present as naturally
This, 100% this. Perfect summary.

Glock angle is great for recoil control, but does NOT point naturally. 1911 points naturally but will get worse rapid fire groups from a novice.

If you're arming a large number of poorly trained morons with a disposable handgun for mag dumping, Glock is perfect.

>>64121423
>other gun communities
Fudds or Reddit, call it

>>64121408
I don't think the 5906 is iconic or unobtanium enough to sell well in current year.

>>64121421
If they did that and shipped them with optics cuts
(And updated their 45xxs and 10xxs with double stack frames)
They'd redeem themselves completely in my eyes.
But that's never gonna happen so I'm just gonna get my 3rd gens optics cut this year.

>>64121408
A third of the comments are retards who can't use a da/sa or hold a gun that weighs more than a teacup
>Unnecessarily complicated and heavy sidearms belongs in the 1980s where you left it
And another third are based boomers telling her they don't care and to bring it back.

>>64121246
Agreed, hopefully they beat the people on the design team.

>>64120813
Delivery to suppersor producer: check :3

>>64121476
Pretty sad to see people hate something just from the trigger mechanism. Nobody said you have to buy guns only for carry or competition. Even then, arguably DA/SA is safest to carry.

>>64121507
Did they use one of those milking machines on you that they used in concentration camps? How are you still alive, I heard those killed "people".

Signed paperwork for my Tisas M1911A1 ASF on tuesday, I live in a cuck state so I have to wait until next tuesday to pick it up. Barrel was tight, bushing was tight and laid flat, trigger had a barely perceptible amount of up and down wiggle. Finish was awesome. Can't wait to pick it up

>>64121711
Grats anon. These Tisas seem to be a pretty good buy.

>>64121711
Respectable choice plus proper milspec 1911s are just cool. Just don't ruin it by putting a faggy red dot on it

Where can I find wide paddle grip safeties for 1911s nowadays? I wonder why Fusion Firearms even have the page up for it, if they're not gonna bother restocking it?

I got this for the price of a standard used HK45 (came with 5 mags too). Really great shape and I know the full ODG models are rare. Any idea what I can flip this for? Only one on gunbroker at the moment; 9 days left with bids starting at $1200.

>>64121759
The only thing I'm considering doing to it is putting a black DLC harrison medium trigger on it, think it looks smart.

>>64121860
I'd keep it and enjoy it man. Cool gun

>>64121759
Forgot to add maybe sending it to DSC gun works for the atlas optic cut, add on rail welded on, bull barrel conversion with MRI comp, Magwell the size of a toilet bowl

>>64121476
>my gun is heavy that means im strong!

means you cant deal with recoil

>>64120734
PX4 Compact is by far the best choice, especially right out of the box
CZ has the P-07 if you can find one
I'd like to recommend the P-09 C Nocturne, but I just can't
it's too rough out of the box and it's pretty much a total crap shoot on if you get a reliable one
mine is only starting to work through its shit 500 rounds later
which is an absolute shame, because it's probably the nicest feel in the hand pistol I own

>>64121226
Neat. Is that a full from-scratch build or did you get a frame blank?

https://youtu.be/NsL6R3wRT8Y
How do we feel about 2011s becoming a sneakerhead/hypebeast type hobby?

>>64121408
I really like these things but they have such amazingly dogshit triggers. Whoever thought it was ok for it the break to be all the way back at the frame is stupid. Anyone I would maybe buy one with an optics cut

>>64122154
It’s been that way for a long time

>>64121711
Nice. I've had several of those. They all work great. I get them because they are cheap and I like 1911s, then sell them for $20 less than I paid a few months later when I remember the only .45 I actually like shooting is my USP45 Elite. Semi-related, I snagged an Inglis P35 Hi Power on sale from PSA the other day, it's made by the same company as Tisas. It's awesome.

I just shot one of these for the first time. I've done plenty of builds before (80% lower, 1911 build, etc). Is it practicable to buy a Mak and convert it to SAO? What would I be in for?

>>64122219
No. No. Hardship

>>64122043
Find me a 12 ounce derringer chambered in 308

>>64121860
>people are scalping guns now
You should flip it into your mouth and kill yourself, nigger.

>>64122226
I believe you but I'm curious about the details

>>64122141
80% frame and a $200 rock island parts kit

I just got done completely deleting the grip safety.
>Cutoff wheel to the internals
>Belt sander to the hump
>Pinned in place against mainspring housing to imobilize it

Here's a mirrored image butted against the original configuration for comparison.
(Yes I know I fucked up a bunch on the build, it's my first 80% pistol.)
Still need to refinish the parts, obviously

>>64122326
I was so utterly confused looking at this thinking it was left hand 1911 but then the mirror image of it that the slide stop and plunger tube were deleted in the other side. And you cut a 180 degree ejection port

>>64122282
Ok, tranny. Calm the fuck down.

>>64122364
NTA but this fucker called Slide Bite Armory beat me in an auction for an Infinity 2011 where I tapped out at 3.8k. He listed it for 6k starting the next week. Still no buyers, it’s been there for a while and now it’s down to 5000 buy it now. Generally scalping is looked down upon for good reason, why should you who produced nothing make profit? Long nose behavior

Btw buying a gun for the express purpose of selling it at a profit is against the law without a license.

>>64122379
Cool blog, faggot.

>>64122388
How old are you? Are you a boomer? Trying to flip 500 dollar guns as collectibles for 2x-3x sounds like a boomer thing to do

>>64122379
>Btw buying a gun for the express purpose of selling it at a profit is against the law without a license.
Not any of those anons. It used to be fine, we're living in the shadow of biden's america.

>>64122360
Yeah, sorry about that I thought it would show the modification better but it's just confusing.

>>64122391
How mad are you? Are you a tranny? Being this mad on the internet seems like a tranny thing to do.

>>64122392
I think it was always illegal since you would then be engaged in the business of selling guns as a dealer, Biden’s ATF lowered the threshold I believe

>>64122397
I am pretty fucking mad since UPS didn’t deliver my gun to the gunstore today

>>64122404
>I think it was always illegal since you would then be engaged in the business of selling guns as a dealer, Biden’s ATF lowered the threshold I believe
Yeah, that makes sense, but there's nothing wrong with buying a few guns over the years to sell later. It's not like you're a dealer. Today, I would be hesitant to sell any guns at all. Wouldn't want to end up like Malinowski.

>>64122379
>>64122392
This is fucking gay so basically it has to stay in the collection or be sold at the same price or less if sold in the future?

>>64122446
>>64122392
Unbelievably Jewish post.

>>64122424
They got him (if that’s who I think) because he was buying a lot of the same make a model, which buying a several of the same exact model flags you as a straw purchaser at once. He would sell to obvious criminals/felons and his guns regularly turned up in criminal investigations.

There’s actually a guy near me they let buy over 100 guns despite them knowing his guns were being used in shootings. He wasn’t even reporting them stolen, a gun he was the last one to do a NCIS check regularly was found in shooting investigations and the local police did nothing. It took a long time for the ATF to act.

>>64122446
No, you can’t just regularly buy guns and then resell them. If you’re buying a significant amount of guns and reselling them you’re obviously in the business of selling guns. You can make profit on private transfers, you can’t be out to make profit in buying guns.

>>64122472
>>64121860
Alright, well I planned on keeping the HK45 for a while anyways. May as well just hold on to it since it’s rare for the collection.

>>64122525
Attanoy, now if you shoot it and it pinches your hand, man that's unfortunate. Guess selling it would be the best move.

>>64122525
>I- I wasn't even that serious about it haha
Again, kill yourself, kike.

>>64122619
No, I’m going to keep living to advance the Jewish agenda. Oi vey, my little hat will never be stopped.

I feel like this was a steal at 800 dollars

>>64122657
>COLT'S MK IV
>COLT IS MK IV

picked one of these up today per your guys shilling recommendation to get a Ruger. Didn't know they made a stainless version of the sr1911, lot more money than the aluminum one but goddamn it felt nice.

>>64122685
>per your guys shilling recommendation to get a Ruger

>>64122685
I’ve seen rust issues on these; even under the grips.

>>64122689
Interesting. Shouldn't be an issue cause I'm ultra autistic about rust prevention. I don't even have acidic sweat or anything and still, every time I touch my guns/take them out of the safe they always get a proper wipe down when put away. My safe also has a dehumidifier system in it.

>>64122685
I've shot one a bunch, it's preddy nice.
>>64122689
Idk why it would rust maybe somebody got it wet? The one I shot is well used and no rust

>>64122698
Ruger has had rust issues for years and a decade ago it didn’t seem to be this bad. Just giving you a heads up if you carry it. Otherwise, enjoy.

>>64120734
>>64120773
I really like my P2000. The main issue (compared to the G19) is that it's 13+1 unless you swap out magazine internals. I've never had a malfunction running them with the +2 spring/follower kit, though it is noticeably more difficult to fully seat the mag on a closed slide.

>>64122707
Ok, but do you honestly feel 13 vs 15 is going to be life or death? Legit question, not trying to be a smart ass.

>>64122715
Nope. But when you buy an HK you're supposed to feel like you're better than everybody. It would bother the shit out of me if I didn't at least have the same number of rounds as the most comparable Glock.

>>64122715
"You take the 13 rounder – the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the 15 rounder – you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."

>>64122657
Based brother

All you need is 6.

>>64122724
Also you can capacity MAXX by using I forget who competition followers that don’t have hold open notch for the follower to fit more rounds which can be roughly a +2 in a 9mm. So your +2 extension can be a +4, so the spare mag you carry can hold even more. Last round hold open doesn’t matter if it’s the last mag you have

>>64122729
What’s your opinion on the current state of Colt 1911s? I say someone say the quality if the best it’s ever been since CZ bought them. This legit?

>>64122729
Might swap out the trigger, maybe the safety for a Wilson tactical blued safety where the bullet proof line one has a polished blue look to it, and the grip safety is polymer tacked onto a traditional one. The mainspring housing has rubber material attached to it, same material as the grips. It’s very comfy in the hand and spins very well on my finger. I tried to do it when the Gunstore employees weren’t looking but they know me

>>64122740
NTA but it seems they actually care about what the market wants and have made all the changes people wanted. The Colt Limited model is optioned very well. They sell optic cut versions now, crappy cut but still it’s a factory option. The trigger guard undercut is good. The Delta Elite is still unramped which kind of is an issue.

The last anon who shilled colts, he had a two, a combat commander 9mm and a .45 government model. He had to send the 9mm back a few times, but it runs now.

>>64122740
I would say I have reservations about them. I've owned three (3) new production Colts. Only the Gold Cup remains, I sold the other two. One was the limited edition one and the other was a combat commander (9mm). The LE had feeding issues but seemed to work consistently with the provided Colt mag, other mags were hit or miss. The combat commander would throw brass in my face but was otherwise fairly reliable. I sent it back to Colt (probably an extractor issue I could in theory replace/fix myself, but don't want to spend the money and effort to fix a brand new item). Got it back from Colt and still had the same problem (the service notes said they changed the recoil spring). Didn't want to hassle with sending it back again, so I sold it. That also had some feeding problems. The Gold Cup has been completely reliable. The only issue I've had is the safety being extremely stiff out of the box (an issue when putting it back on safe). It's worn in and works fine now. Overall I would say you're rolling the dice, mostly with regard to reliability. What gets me is that the guns "seem" to be very high quality when you get them in hand, take them apart, look at them etc. And they are by far the best looking 1911s available. They are guns I really wish I could recommend, but I just can't. Others say they are fine, maybe I just got unlucky with regard to reliability

>>64122786
also the Gold Cup was a blem, which I assume is the scratch you can see near the muzzle. So i saved like $200

>>64122722
I thought part of the H&K feeling of superiority came from knowing that not only is your weapon the finest that can be had, but that your skills are also unmatched, so a difference in capacity is meaningless. A single well-placed shot fired from a perfectly zeroed H&K is more effective than the 30-odd bullets sprayed blindly from the glawk foty wit da stendo an da beam.

How popular were the S&W 581/586/681/686 when they were first released in the 1980s? Were people who already had K frames or N frames on the hunt to buy the new L frame revolvers/were people choosing to buy the new L frames over the old and established K and N frames?

digging wheel guns lately

>>64122738
>tfw not complying

>>64122838
You don't live in a cuck state do you burt?

>>64122786
I think Gold Cups are iconic and I'm not normally a 1911 enjoyer. The only thing stopping me from buying one is the fact that it sounds like I won it in a golf tournament.

>>64122840
His state was recently cucked

>>64122840
Kinda; the mag ban and permit has been on hold while it's in the courts but there's a bunch of other bullshit.

>>64122818
And knowing it will not jam no matter what allstate commercial shit happens

>>64122968
iktf

(:

I ordered a 4" 686 for $650 + $35 transfer fee, zero tax.
How did I do?

>>64122685
You won't regret it. When I worked at a gun shop my coworker carried one of these every day 5oclock IWB for years. He had no complaints.

>>64123064
>hillary hole
ew
Considering my lgs wants $900+ for a new 4” 686/686+ I’d say you did alright

>>64122838
HE HAS RETURNED ONCE MORE PRAISE BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>64123064
You won’t know till you get and shoot the gun, you might’ve payed that amount for a hot turd.

>>64123088
Checked. Yeah Ill look it over. I actually live in SPFLD.

>>64123095
Not meaning to be a dick or anything when saying that, but revolvers especially can be total unknowns. Most semi auto pistols you can fix whatever is wrong with them with easy to swap parts, revolvers take a little more to get things meshed together well, and lots of people are tards with their revolvers.

Scratched up the finish on my gun a little bit while getting rust off. What's a good product for repairing a gun's finish, or polishing a gun? Trying to prevent future rust from forming

>>64123129
you cant stop rust once it starts

>>64123129
Birchwood-Casey Lead removing cloth or the Rust version is pretty magical.

>>64123132
>the infinite wisdom of k
The rust has been removed with sandpaper and CLP. I just want a coating that will at least slow the rust significantly.

>don't use sandpaper because it'll fuck up your finish
Next time I won't, this time I did. At any rate, I have some scratches on my gun. Are you seriously telling me there's nothing in your infinite wisdom you can help with?

>nothing you can do
You can at least blue the gun, so you're already dumb and wrong. The absolute state of this thread, lmao

>>64123133
Checked but i want to repair my finish and keep the rust out. I already got the rust off. I need a product that actually sticks to my weapon

>>64123139
Holy shit lmao what a fuckin retard, using sandpaper on a gun

>>64123129
It’s over. There isn’t that much can be done since most finish touch up offers little rust protection. Paint offers a surprisingly amount, unless rust can get under the paint. Cold blue is a controlled rusting process and offers some protection but not as much as a real finish.

My plan for this carbon steel frame was to cold blue it then spray paint it OD green with Brownells Alumahyde

>>64123141
Uh if you removed the bluing and you’re saying it’s bare metal, the only thing you can do short term is slop some cold blue on, it will protect it but it won’t match and look pretty bad, really you’ve forced yourself to have the gun professionally refinished at this point.

>>64123139
you can remove the surface rust but it will always come back

>>64123150
Bro you could’ve used any number of gentle products to literally wipe off or scrub this off with a nylon brush, it just proves money can’t buy common sense.

>>64123142
>>64123144
This place really is more useless than a level 1 Magikarp. I can think of dozens of products off the top of my head. Automotive paint, truck bedliner, automotive clearcoat, marine coating, etc. Have you guys tried all those things and failed?

>i fucked up my gun and I'm a retard
You're the one saying that a scratch cannot be fixed. Keep in mind, I never said i want it to look good, I want it to just stop rusting.

>>64123161
who are you talking to

>>64123164
I literally just fucking said paint you illiterate buffoon.

>>64123151
There was never any bluing, just black finish from the factory.

>professionally refinished
I'm at least gonna try applying some chemicals to see what happens

>>64123156
If the metal gets sealed air/watertight, rust cannot form underneath. Why are you implying this is impossible? People do this with cars all the time. Are you dumber than /o/tards? Clearly you are

>>64123164
L O L
>I’m not the retard you are!!!!!!!

Dickass you used sandpaper on your gun to remove surface rust, you will forever be in the hall of /k/ retards.

>>64123165
The person I replied to, is it hard for you to follow posts?

>>64123167
hall of fame retard, I think it's a returner

weedengineer it feels like with the
>I'm retarded I did X
>NO YOU'RE RETARDED, HELP ME

>>64123166
Checked, you're the only one who gave anything that resembles a non-NPC answer. Only you didn't suggest what paint, or even what type of paint. What base should the paint be? God, it's like speaking to children. It's true, all you do is post your guns. 0 repair chads on this entire board.

>>64123173
I'm not the one with the finish issues.

>>64123167
>If the metal gets sealed air/watertight, rust cannot form underneath
rust is like mold, what you see on the surface is just the fruiting body, the mold is already throughuot that piece of fruit or what. Same with your gun, its over, sell it and get a new one

>>64123180
It looks like you do

>>64123168
>>64123175
Faggots, you're trying ridiculously hard to prove that it can't be fixed. Theory of mind states that just because you're too dumb to fix it, doesn't mean it's unfixable. You just don't have the skill! I know for a fact this is fixable. My only mistake is asking a bunch of actual halfwits about it.

>>64123183
>its over, sell it and get a new one
This place is taken over by NPCs. Looks like i gotta ask /o/.

>>64123185
Don’t have a melty guy, you might sandpaper your dick off or something in frustration.

>>64123185
alright retard

maybe the arresting ICE officers can do something about the rust, show it to them

>>64123189
>>64123191
What the fuck are you retards talking about now? Bad enough you're absolutely worthless in terms of useful advice, but what does ICE and dicks have to do with it?

>>64123161
According to the niggers itt, none of that shit works. You just better drop thousands of $ on a new gun as soon as yours gets scratched.

>>64123207
Post a picture please of what you did.

>>64123207
we're all retarded niggers but you're the one with the problem you caused but some how know more than all of us on the solution

So, does anyone have experience with this stuff? I did a quick Google search and found this product called Duracoat. Does it work? Has anyone tried it? I can't be the only one with a scratch on my firearm.

>>64123215
Nigger I've fixed scratches before by doing a full bluing. I just don't wanna blue this specific gun. There's gotta be a better way. Excuse me for assuming that someone here has some experience with a product like picrel.

>>64123216
Forgot pic

>>64123221
no, I won't

>>64123221
>Nigger I've fixed scratches before by doing a full bluing.

Press X to doubt.jpeg

>>64123223
>idk how to do anything other than take pics of my gun
Ya i already realized that

>>64123227
I understand that to your Sub Saharan IQ, bluing seems very difficult, but I assure you it's really quite easy.

Who would win:
All the regulars of hg
or
1 scratchy boi

>>64123231
this is just like that time I made fun of you years ago for being too stupid to put back together a 1911 without scratching it

>>64123238
Wtf are you talking about schizo? I'm a tourist. If you think I'm some other schizo you're fighting with, I'm not. I wouldn't waste my time here, considering how unironically retarded you niggers are. All you were asked to do was recommend me a product, that's all I wanted. Even a Youtube NPC can do that, but you can't. What the fuck do you even do here all day?

>>64123246
lol dude weed

I’m a master engineer gunsmith repair man, why aren’t you guys helping me!

>>64123250
What the fuck are you talking about? What does weed have to do with this?

>why aren't you helping me
Because you can't, because you're way too fucking dumb. I'm kinda just outraged about it. And I'm gathering that you've had this exact interaction before with a different anon.

>>64123252
Post your gun then

>>64123254
Nice try cunt. I already got what I needed. Thanks to >>64123144 for mentioning Brownells Alumahyde, although I don't have a carbon steel frame so I gotta make sure it's compatible. I'm out, enjoy your short bus general.

>>64119056 (OP)
This happened while I was running a course, so it was probably put in with zeal. However, that's no excuse. It was inserted with an open bolt. I'm not going to trust these mags for anything but range use. They were suspect as soon as I originally inspected them. Too stiff, no give equals not good with poly mags. Thirty round curved factory Stribog .

>>64123258
Alumahyde is just paint still and won’t do anything if rust is already under it. It’ll make it worse since you can’t see the rust anymore

>>64123263
I already used CLP to remove the rust. And I'll make sure I give it several more passes to make sure there's no rust left before I apply the paint. It's the same as on a car, right?

>>64123260
I see…

Glad I stay away from all euro trash guns

>>64123265
>clp
>remove rust
I thought you knew more than me mister master engineer repair man

>>64123268
Who's the master engineer? You? Ok Master Engineer, why does the CLP bottle say "penetrates and removes rust". Also, who is this anon you're seething about? I'm not diving in the archives over some clown nigga.

>>64123260
RIP

>>64123266
What are the approved countries you'd buy a gun from?

>>64123260
I triple dog dare you to weld that shit

>>64123266
Its fantastic. The PDW S model. My Walmart/Dairyqueen gun. Very compact. Carry it in one of those hippie recycled fairtrade reuseable shopping bags. The logo on it is a tree hugging a smaller, darker tree.

>>64123088
Such an optimist you are. It's not like anon ordered a p320. How bad can it be?

>>64123286
What's a WalMart Dairy Queen gun?

>>64123284
Due to past indiscretions, I'm no longer legally allowed to be within 300 ft of any kind of welding device. They actually named the legislation they passed after me,

>>64123278
Italy and USA

>>64123301
You just said you hate Eurotrash?

>>64123305
Italians aren’t white or European

>>64123299
Are you the Master Engineer they keep talking about? Kek

>>64123274
>why does the CLP bottle say
Because they want you to BUY IT you fucking noguns. CLP does as much for rust as running water.

>>64123297
So you have never been in a Walmart or Dairy queen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICIQg4eFJtE

More firepower in a package that could still be concealed. The patrons of these establishments are not what one would describe as svelte. Extra bulge is not an issue.

>>64123327
I didn't realize all CLP has the same formula, lmao. Forget what the bottle says, let's assume I'm an average illiterate zoomer. How come the CLP got rid of the rust before my very eyes, with only a few drops?

>>64123330
Walmart yes, DQ no. I'll go to DQ when they have one healthy item on their menu, so never.

>>64123339
I have never eaten there in my life. I tow cars out of there on a regular basis though. Last week I scored a handicapped parking, parked after hours and a financial repo all out the same vehicle! I'm a fucking legend at work now.

>>64123349
So that's what happened to my car. Give it back!

>>64123336
It didn't, you fool. You scrubbed it with a rag, patch or steel wool. The liquid just put what you scrubbed off into suspension.

>>64123364
>CLP is pointless
Do you recommend kerosene instead?

>>64123367
You're not going to squeeze me for advice after you acted like a petulant child despite two people in the thread telling you their lived experience with CLP. You can go put in work to learn about and deal with your finish issues.

anons, what's the physically smallest sized 50rd boxes of .45ACP I can buy for storage efficiency sake? I know S&B makes pretty compact containers for their 9mm but not sure about .45

>>64123373
Sorry for not trusting your tinfoil hat bullshit about CLP being jew semen

>squeeze (you) for advice
I would have unironically better luck with GPT. Sad!

How fucked are Springfield 1911s? The emissary actually looks nice but their QC sounds like shit.
If I wanted a US-made 1911 without breaking the bank is a Kimber or a Ruger the answer?

Cant shoot micro 9s for shit but can shoot tight ass groups witha 10mm XDM subcompact wtf

For the anons that care, you can deal with surface rust on a traditionally blued gun by spraying with CLP or Balistoil or whatever you love, nylon brushing aggressively (rinse brush often, rust flakes are abrasive), rubbing a copper penny on the stubborn spots (lay it flat, let the raised rim "snag" the rust)
Then fully decreasing the gun with any spray can of either from autozone and boiling the part in DISTILLED water (use tap water and your part is gonna be fucked)

This will leave you with no red oxide on the gun, you can then oil and care for the gun as normal without rust blooms coming back.

pistol good

>>64123194
They're autistic but none of them is tatally wrong. Once you got rust the oxide layer will grow and is much more prone to rusting than the blank steel. Keeping it oiled with a medium tier oil is enouth to stop expansion. Removing the rust is best to stop that but not just mechanicaly with CLP and steel wool, you need to finish the job with a chemical rust removal/conversion since mechanical removal wont by to 100%. I tested Gold Guard on a rusted barrel to see if its penetration into rust spots and makes them hydophobe enouth to survive outdoor storage and rain, worked very well. So you can use Gold Guard to seal shut the rust (degrease with breakcleaner first to free the pores from oil)and if possible to put a layer on the whole steel, let it dry overnight to form the wax and than gentle put the grip over it so its wax sealed to prevent Ruger rust.

>>64123164
>This place really is more useless than a level 1 Magikarp.
What an angry bugman type of response, no wonder you're so destructive and argumentative.

>>64123045
>Not Aqua or Darkness
Shit taste.

>>64123437
The Kimber next gen 1911 seems very good. I have no idea about the current status of the rest of their line up but the 2k11, next gen 1911, and their non-1911s seem good.

MIMbersisters... Ben Stoeger says the Kimber 2k11 is not perfect. The grip has no texture, the safety is a giant hot spot, and the C&H precision plate sucks and keeps launching his optic.

>>64124310
>seems very good
Ok are we just going to pretend the past 2 decades of kimber quality never happened?

Is Glocks being ugly just a meme? They are unironically one of the only good looking polymer handguns without a bunch of mall ninja angles and shapes. The grips could be better but I wish more companies copied their slide design.

>>64124581
I miss the finger grooves

>>64124581
It's a meme nowadays, when all duty-slop pistols have become blocky in order to accommodate optics.
It wasn't a meme back when they were comparing Glocks to contemporary classy-looking, metal-frame, hammer fired rivals.

>>64124562
Reviews from Ben Stoeger and a few other YouTubers I trust are positive. Bumble shartsman shot 1000 rounds out of the new Kimber 1911 out of the box without an issue.

It has an external extractor which avoids a lot of the issues with 1911s

Damn

>>64119459
Gaston glock consulted extensively with target shooters and they favored 22 degree grips to lock the wrist better.

The thumb divot kind of ruins it.

Glock or CZ-P-10 C for a first time gun owner? Texan here so will most likely EDC it

>>64124855
Glock

>>64124855
Glock, not even a competition. They ever even fix the p10 - c frame cracking issue? If you're gonna get a cz go metal framed and hammer fired. If you want a polymer striker fired compact 9mm then G19 gen 5 and S&W M&P 2.0 are the best in class.

>>64124777
European target shooters and not Americans who actually shoot guns

>>64123745
megumin is best girl

>>64124855
Glock, but also consider the HK P30. If you don’t want a safety, they have an LEM trigger model and it fucks. GL, anon.

Also, if you get the Glock upgrade those shitty polymer sights with Trijicon HDs.

>>64124998
I liked Darkness alot in the novel but the anime version megumin is the best

>>64124855
Glock is a very known quantity and works, but there is an entire industry in trying to make not Glocks Glocks fixing things like
>trigger (the new gen 5 I like the stock trigger)
>grip angle
>optic cut
>slide release and other controls

The CZ P10 I really like the ergos of. Never shot it

https://recovertactical.com/product/bc2-beretta-grip-rail-system-for-the-beretta-92-m9/

Thoughts?

>>64125367
that probably will complicate your holster selection. Might also dick up laser aiming

>>64125367
No

>>64124562
I still don't trust Kimber, an anon brought up that Edelman, who brought cohen on, is still very much running the company.
>>64124729
I'm gonna wait to see how things shake out. Cds9 and 2k11 are good starts to rebuilding image, but they're getting huge marketing pushes and all the higher round count reviews (stoeger, shart, etc) are guns sent by Kimber, so of course cherry picked examples.

>>64125650
Stoeger said the gun was unfired when he received it.

They can only handpick a functional one if they test fired it a lot. If they had a method of finding out if the gun was going to run without shooting it, QC would be solved on handguns

>>64125668
Stoeger is also an idiot and a troll and will outright lie for clicks or trolling purposes.

>>64125668
It's moreso that they can take the ones meant for reviewers and scrutinize every dimension and surface, opposed to regular QC where you got some guy who's paid 18 bucks an hour half assing the QC check on several dozen pistols a day

>>64125056
Use CLP again by mistake?

>>64125795
No, the range janny was trying to be nice and sprayed my gun with the CLP bottle when he saw it malfunctioning. He got CLP all over it and my tray of chicken tenders. He also tipped over my target with the brass zamboni

>>64123437
Kimber and Springfield are generally good to go, but definitely have QC misses. They currently both have very good customer service and if you get something that got past QC, they'll take care of it quickly without trouble, so they're safe choices.

Ruger is somewhat less likely to send out a gun that shouldn't have made it past QC, but has limited options.

You should feel OK with any of those choices, though if I was getting a Kimber I'd get the next gen model like the other anon mentioned.

every time i shoot or meaningfully dryfire my glock it makes the tip of my trigger finger numb for 1-2 days
it doesn't happen with any other gun
wtf glockbros

is cerakote adequate for a slide finish? pic for attention (not my gun)

>>64125998
It rubs off and DLC and other good PVD finishes are getting cheaper and cheaper. Cerakote can be done very cheaply but patterns like your picture are expensive. More expensive then a superior protective finish

>>64126028
Also Cerakote now is like the standard of finishes, while it rubs off from holster wear and other abrasions it has decent protection and coverage.

>>64122838
Burt you're a big time collector, do you have any double stack 1911/2011s that just look like a regular 1911 not some new interpretation of one/do you have any recommendations of one? I'd like to spend under $3k, but under $2k would be really nice. I was looking at a custom Platypus but they don't do the classic 1991 style narrow vertical serrations nor do they have interchangeable grips and I'd like wood ones.

Hello everyone. This is your friendly reminder that you do NOT need a red dot on your pistol. The millisecond gains in target acquisition and follow up shots is not worth looking like a wimp. Get good with irons. That is all.

>>64125998
cerakote e series is more durable

>>64126223
Take a shower stinky

>>64126232
I am not stinky, I wear decent deodorant and use nice cologne. I also exclusively work in air conditioned spaces.

>>64124855
I'm going to go against everyone saying glock. It's high speed low drag sure, safeties r 4 fags, muh weight to capacity to size to etc ratio spec wars, muh optics ready for taking out goatfuckers on the other side of the valley in afghanistan etc, but it's not FUN

Get a beretta px4 compact. The rotating recoil system makes it luxurious to shoot and very accurate. The subcompact is not the same gun btw.

>>64125998
>adequate
Yes.

>>64126208
No and I'm not sure such a thing exists, they're always going to look different but maybe the Para P14 looks the most "regular" with grips but its still a big chonko. I don't think they have a good reputation though. 2011s generally don't do grip panels because there's not enough room, the grip is fat due to the oversized mags

Looking to get a solid .45 to round out my handgun collection. Ive heard excellent things about the FNX(mainly from my co-workers). However my worry is that the recoil is too much , I have dainty cubicle rat wrists. Is the Recoil that much of a challenge or should I stick with 9MMs?

>have to wait until Monday for the remainder of the parts
But I wanted to shoot on the weekend!

>>64126325
>get a solid .45 to round out my handgun collection
P220

>>64126335
Might as well get a 1911 if you like low capacity, those SIGs are boat anchors.

>>64126325
The trigger kinda sucks on these, like a stock Glock, and it’s like $350 to upgrade slightly.

Beretta 92 or Glock 17 as a first gun? I literally don't know anything about guns

>>64123129
Go back to your hugbox NAFO.

>>64126415
Yes

>>64126208
Exactly the thing you want is the Alchemy Custom Weaponry “Hi-Caps” (ACW). Bushing barrel. Traditional stirrup. Double diamond grips. Blued finish.

I saw one go for under 3k a few weeks ago

>>64126390
>those SIGs are boat anchors
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>64126208
Para/rock island is the only way you're gonna get wood grips panels.
But as this anon suggested
>>64126438
Tend to look more like traditional 1911s (as far as 2011s go) than some other companies, especially with the grips that have the same pattern as most old wood grips.

>>64126461
Traditional 1911s had plastic brown grips

ACW did a “re issue” where they made a .45 2011 styled like a 1911A1 with a grip module that mimickes the old brown plastic grips. The fat man. They were like 5k each. A 2011 doesn’t have to be expensive, it shouldn’t be any harder than putting together a single stack.

>>64126415
What do you want to do with a gun? Just go to the range? Home defense? Conceal carry? Gunsmithing?

You can't go wrong with either gun but I generally recommend 92FS to new shooters for the 1) weight and 2) manual safety

>>64126415
For me I would recommend the 92FS
>manual safety
>cheap parts, not uncommon
>DA/SA hammer allows you to practice both DA pulls and SA pulls as dry fire. Mastering a DA/SA will make you good at shooting anything.
>aftermarket parts available to make the trigger top tier for not that much money

Personally I like the PX4 more

>>64126481
>Plastic grips
TIL, I guess it makes more sense for fielding pistols for a military.

>>64126317
Yeah my memory is that Para's reputation went down the shitter after the acquisition. I'm not too worried about it being thicc since I'm unlikely to carry it outside of winter anyway, but I need that classic look. I suppose the grips are something I might be willing to compromise on, but I will not compromise on the classic serrations and round trigger guard, I want that classic look.

>>64126438
>>64126461
Yeah, an Alchemy Quantico previously caught my eye, but it was almost $4,000... I'll try to keep an eye on the used market. As for RIA, I'm wary of them, and they're only available in black where I really like stainless, nickel or glossy bluing like my prewar 1911.

>>64126481
Five thousand dollar and they can't even put brown paint on the grips straight? Looks like it was done by a shaky toddler.

>>64126665
And their marketing guys are weak wristed and have muzzle flip like a motherfucker. The 2011 is very top heavy due to the polymer frame but they got to get someone better at shooting to do marketing.

Almost there

>>64126766
I'm liking what I'm seeing.

>>64126627
wait, why don't you just make your own?

Either buy a prodigy and hope your replacement slide fits tight or build your own from scratch like I am

>>64126766
>>64123150

>>64126771
It’s ugly. The hacksaw I used, I went in at an angle and didn’t correct it since “I’ll fix it with a file”

>>64126788
Huh I thought >>64126766 angle was supposed to be the inverse of how the slide was cut to make a 'U' or 'V' shape.

If you're going to blow money on a 1911, are there any standouts?

>>64126823
Les Baer

>>64126823
In the 1k-2k range sometimes high end 1911s (5k MSRP) drop down that far and will blow any new gun in that range out of the water plus if unmodified you can call the original manufacturer to fix any issue.

>>64126823
Start with a S&W, mammoth ivory grips and then send it to my gunsmith and say "make it flawless" and say money is no problem.

>>64119056 (OP)
Cursed guns. Recover tactical mount on a kimber tle2 and mecanik red dot on a sig p365x.

>>64126963
How are the mechanik dots anyway? Literally never seen anyone have one outside of a Canik promotional image.

>>64126968
Mid. Holds zero no problem. Shake awake, turns of after a couple minutes of no movement. Feels solid and nice clear glass but I can't say to its durability, I haven't dropped it. Mines 3 moa and for a micro optic its fine. Get one its cheap and works

>>64123575
Thanks chad

>>64127239
Yeah, it’s coming together

I just finished my 1911, had to replace the sear with a swenson, fucking RIA parts kit was clapped and giving me hammer follow

>>64127424
that's a real old ass RIA kit if they still have that roll mark

>>64127428
Oh yeah, ancient. But also cheap
I also picked up this little shit blob today while hitting midway for parts

>>64127433
I almost bought that gun, but went with a ruger LCP because it was cheaper. Always wanted to try shooting the kel tec.

>>64119056 (OP)
I have a new 92FS and the rear sight is slightly off-center, probably because it was sighted in at the factory, right? What do they do on the normal M9 with the fixed sights, just let it go?

>>64127443
does it shoot off center?

M9 has a dovetail rear just like the 92FS, they're the same pistol

>>64127443
They most definitely don’t zero production Berettas at the factory. They just try to center the sights in the dovetail and ship it, and in this case, they didn’t center it perfectly. You’re probably going to have to zero it yourself.

No big deal, that’s why the dovetail is there.

anybody enjoy meusoc builds?

>>64127544
Absolutely, wish I could get the light

>>64127442
The "sights" are ass but I got it with the pocket clip and 5 mags for $150 and it ran 100 rounds today without issues.
It's still a keltek though.

>>64126823
Ed Brown, Dan Wesson

>>64127608
10 yards slow fire, absolutely unacceptable on my part, I'll need to practice with it.

>>64127415
Alright anon, starting to see it.

>>64127443
Italian or Tennesseean? One is substantially worse than the other

>>64127686
Tennesseean. You can see a little bit of the flat part of the dovetail on the left side. Will have to shoot it to check but it seems like it's supposed to be centered. Not used to having to adjust the sights on a basic ass handgun.

>>64127757
Of course those monkeys at Gallatin fucked your shit up. You'd think they'd have an idiotproof jig to set sights up correctly. It's just unacceptable to have a gun need fixing out the box, especially at the cost 92s come at.

>>64127611
That's not bad considering the gun and sights. If you can learn to point shoot with it at 7-10 yards you'll be fine if your concern is a self defense gun.

>>64127757
Ignore that idiot. Those other two posters provided helpful comments.

>>64127611
>absolutely unacceptable

nice attempt at a humblebrag

>>64128665
No need act like a faggot because of contextual information. He can have help fixing his crooked sights AND know TN cuts corners at manufacturing. Fellate Beretta on the subreddit instead.

>>64126481
desu it's very odd nobody has tried to make an "M1911A1" bare bones, no nonsense 2011. I guess there's just almost no overlap between guys who want 2011s and guys who like vintage 1911 Govts though/

On top of that, the super racey thumb safeties, palm safeties, slide stop levers, hammers, etc are all standard features that 99% of people are fine with, they'd have to spend more money to get the vintage look and they'd be arguably worse performing.

>>64126782
>wait, why don't you just make your own?
>Either buy a prodigy and hope your replacement slide fits tight or build your own from scratch like I am

It's not that I'm opposed to it, but more that I wouldn't even know where to start since I'm already basically striking out on finding classic looking double stack 1911s/2011s, I haven't even started looking at frames or grip modules. Anyway, prodigies all have square trigger guards and a new slide isn't going to fix that.

>>64128768
ironically the beretta subreddit has the most proof of bad machining from the gallatin factiry

>>64128840
Just go buy some steaks or a rack of ribs, some beers and wait.

who's still shooting and carrying Glock 26s?

>>64128846
>he bought the wrong glork

>>64119056 (OP)
Anybody got a line on a decocking only assembly for a S&W 3913 or 3914? Seems to me to be the smallest DA/SA pistol out there for CC

>>64128860
Walther PPK and Beretta 21A are definitely smaller, not 9mm but certainly carry oriented. Springfield XD-E is about the same maybe a bit thinner and smaller. Sphinx SDP Subcompact too and that's a double stack. There are probly others, if width isn't that big a concern there's a whole niche of subcompact DA/SAs like the P99C, RAMI and P30SK.

Anyway 3913s are rad, check Numrich
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/smith-wesson/auto-pistols-sw/3913
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/smith-wesson/auto-pistols-sw/3914
eBay sometimes has little oddball stuff too from parted out guns. I don't see 3913 parts at the other usual suspects unforch

I thought you could just take out a spring under the ejector or something to make S&W 3rd gen decocker only, but a 5 second search shows people talking about milling slides so I guess I don't remember good

Man Ben Stoeger really fucking hates Gray Guns

>another absolutely pristine AMT backup in 40 up for sale
>Have to either pay 600 before fees
or get into a bidding war with boomers who also want to turn it into a 10mm
One day I'll probably just end up getting one in 45 and saying gud enough. I want to use my money for a 2011 build at the moment
>>64127415
Sick
>>64127424
Epic

>>64128860
CS9 is smaller but one less round and lacks the compatibility with other 3rd gen parts that the 3913 has

>>64128994
>No views
Ben confirmed for one of us

>>64129146
was there any ever doubt?

>>64128845
>wait
I found out I was missing an additional part...
So hard iced tea and Taco Bell it is!

>took 68 hours to reach bump limit
lol dead general

I'll post a pic when finished in the next thread, but I used 2 parts from another project handgun, 1 I was going to swap anyway.

>>64128735
Anything over 2" at 10yds slow fire is poor performance. That was significantly worse.

>>64128587
I can point shoot fine but that's not really a good "plan"
What if you had to shoot a pitbull in a neighborhood with no good backstop?

This was a 7 yard mag dump on the same target.
IIRC the 8 ring of a B-8 is the size of an IDPA A-Zone

>>64128994
Ben, get me a CZC Hush or stop posting. I'll meet you at SGC fgt.

New thread
>>64129369
>>64129369
>>64129369

>>64129369
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>>64126223
kill yourself

>>64126415
Glock == straight
Beretta == troon
It's that simple anon

>>64130770
Kek

>>64127544
Does that have picatinny rails or is does it just clip on like a magnet?
>>64128846
>Not using the Glock 43x
Ngmi
>>64130770
Funny...seeing how most troons get conned into buying kel tecs or glocks