Thread 64123733

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>Thread #2073

Old thread here >>64096916

AK Buyer's Guides

>Rifles
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/SimpleBuyersGuide
>Magazines
https://thinlineweapons.com/wiki/index.php/AK_Mag_Buyers_Guide#Quality

>>64123733 (OP)
Should I worry about my WBP 7.62? I bought it right before I started seeing this bad bolt stuff.

>>64124113
Is your life going to depend on that rifle?

>>64124133
If my other rifle goes down in a civil war or WROL scenario and I'm not already dead or out of ammo by then.

>>64123733 (OP)
Which 1913 stock is most similar to the old school AK-74 triangle folder? A3 Industries seems like the best choice. I want something I could potentially still use with things like buttpads and cheek risers that are made for the 5.5mm triangle stocks.

Yo bit off topic but does anyone know if waiting 2 months for my gunsmith to parkerize a sling swivel and rivet it into my uzi is reasonable? I don’t have a rivet crushing tool which is why I gave it to him to do but it’s been 2 fucking months. Should I just take it back and do it myself?

QRD on WBP situation

Does any have a picture of comparing a PSA krink and Russian krink? For example, looking at a picture of a PSA krink how would be able to tell it is PSA besides PSA factory engraving?

Is encyclopedia anon here? I bought a 1993 M70AB2 parts kit and I need the correct receiver markings. Kit was completely demilled so I have nothing to go off of.

>>64124113
Trade for a WASR
>>64124504
No concrete proof yet, but it is suspected that WBP is selling rejected QC parts to the American market. 5 bolts have broken so far all in the 3-5k round count range.

>>64124712
>5 bolts have broken so far all in the 3-5k round count range.
Were they 7.62 or 5.56 bolts? I feel like that's an important distinction to be made since a lot of the thin-stem 5.56 bolts seem to be more fragile regardless of manufacturer.

>>64124730
7.62

>>64124739
Ok then fuck WBP lol it sucks because a lot of builders are using their parts these days.

>>64124762
Yup, those are pretty much the only parts available. Might have something to do with all the broken Beryl firing pins too.

>>64124494
I waited 11 months once

>>64124712
So what you are saying is people who just rushed to buy one of these probably got some shit bolt?

https://armsofamerica.com/romanian-md-63-5-56-45-akm-battlefield-build-rd-custom/

>>64124555
yes because a PSA krink is closer to bulgarian spec than russian.
even if you had a russian "krink" everyone would just assume its PSA since nobody is dumb enough to build one in the current year...
right?

cant believe im going to build an AK74 in the big 2025.
anyone have builder recommendations or should i just do it myself?
It doesn't look that difficult after I've done hours of research. problem is that the tooling would cost nearly the same as the builders commission fee

>>64125134
I assume you already have the parts on hand?
The build isn't hard, it's the same as an AKM for the most part, but then you have a pile of tools you won't use that much more unless you really get into the slowly-dying market that is "AK parts kit building."
If the cost of a builder doing it for you isn't too much more than a full suite of tools, rivets and receiver I'd strongly consider shopping for a builder over doing it yourself.
A general location in the country is also helpful for builder suggestions, don't doxx yourself of course but regional will help. Example being if you live in ID you don't want to go for a good suggested builder in TX when you have good builders that were simply overlooked in your backyard.

>>64125175
its fine, I know where I live.
I live in North Texas, I would go with circle 7 but Idk how to even that guy anymore

>>64125175
I don't live far from "Circle 7 armory" (North Texas based) but I believe he's harder to get in contact with due to some legal trouble.
A lot of the other options are kinda shady for lack of better words

>>64124682
What markings do you need that couldn't be easily found?
U/R/J is the Yugo selector marking, and while not necessarily correct (at least not on the stamped receivers), Childers offers the "ZASTAVA KRAGUJEVAC YUGOSLAVIA" logo that was on the RSB, on it as well.

>>64125260
youtube.com/watch?v=gdFfe9tWbMY

>>64125028
>Forged WBP 5.56 Core Components
ooof

>>64125134
Armory42 did mine and he did an awesome job.
Most builders are around $350 to start. I'd expect to pay around $450. That's still far less than the specialty tools and jigs which will run you $500-$1200 depending how Gucci you want to go.
For reference I paid $700 for my builder because it had a folding stock (extra work, annoying work too) and clean up work from the previous builder.
>>64123733 (OP)
Plumchads

>>64124762
https://old.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/1mgnqfj/wbp_failure/
Ouch

>>64125906
https://old.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/1kpqdae/whatever_you_do_dont_run_the_magpul_handguards/
This predditor thought magpul handguards made his WBP bolt shear?

>>64125920
>if this isn't a bit
Have you ever heard of "sarcasm?"
The top comment in that thread is asking if it was the sling, it's in jest.

>>64125948
I don’t understand reddit humor ™
More upcummies for you then

>>64123733 (OP)
>>64124038
I always thought plum AKs were gay until recently.

>>64126129
I still think you’re gay, noguns

how does dry firing hurt the gun
how damage firing pin when striking... nothing?

>>64126170
Ha! The jokes on you I’ve always been gay.

>>64126178
It doesn’t, I’ve probably dry-fired my AKs hundreds of thousand of times over the years and they’re fine. If you’re a poorfag peasant like me and you run a PSA and you’re worried about it breaking just replace the firing pin with picrel.

>>64126219
[spoiler]what about other guns is it even a thing or just for rimfires or some shit[/spoiler]

>>64126129
US-made nu-Plum is gay. Surplus Soviet/Russian plum is cool and good.

Pic is nu-Plum

>>64126129
>>64126246
Pic is surplus plum.

They look different, feel different, are made of different materials, and the surplus ones look good whereas nu-plum looks like lavender gayboi shit.

>>64126237
It was an issue for older rimfire guns, most modern designs have remedied the issue.
In other guns, it can still be a problem if the firing pin is made of subpar material compared to the bolt that it is hitting when you dry-fire (because it still hits something when dry-fired, note the shape of the front of the AK firing pin for example).

>>64126219
>replace with WBP
>breaks again

>>64126237
>what about other guns
Why do you care about other guns? AKs are the is the only guns you’ll ever need.

>>64126260
Unironically never had a firing pin break before on any gun, not even my DelTon AR from 2014 with 10,000+ rounds on it. I’m pretty sure broken firing pins are a myth.

>>64126292
WBP sells reject parts to America

>>64126379
Okay, so?
Still never had a broken firing pin.

>>64126394
You will with WBP

>>64126397
I’ll cross that bridge when the time comes.

>>64125516
Those rivets are way over crushed

>>64126379
reject parts from what, retard? WBP is primarily a commercial manufacturer. Why would they sell reject parts to the largest commercial firearm market in the world when they themselves are primarily a commercial outfitter? I swear, I bet that fat nigger retard m26 lemon brain probably started this rumor, and that shit has been spreading like wildfire.

>>64126576
wow, imagine that, I googled "WBP reject parts" and the first things that came up were from that fat turkey gobble necked dipshit. That fat retarded lemon brained dipshit needs to hit cardiac arrest already

>>64126576
NTA but
>reject parts from what
Their QA/QC procedures is the current rumor
>why sell reject parts to the largest commercial firearm market
The same reason Turkish manufacturers are confirmed to sell their QC rejects to the American market: "they are stupid and will buy anything gun related if it's priced well enough."
Is it confirmed with WBP? No, but it is with Turks, so it's just conjecture that the logic is carried over for the rumor.
M26 probably did start it (or at least is one of the bigger voices signal boosting it currently, he carries a lot more weight than he should frankly)
That's about as far as it goes, bits of anecdotes and conjecture based on how the foreign import market looks at the US.

>>64126576
Well the AK community (this general in particular) are not the brightest bunch in the world so I’m never surprised by the endless amounts of stupid shit I hear/read.
Honestly the thing I miss the most about 2000s AK world wasn’t the prices, it was the people were just having fun with AKs. The consumer base wasn’t filled to the fucking brim with rich dickheads buildfags, hipster cloners, and tardfag “collector” who never shoot their guns because: “ammo for AKs is expensive/I don’t wanna shoot corrosive ammo/I can’t afford ammo even though I own 13 arsenals.”
Honestly? AKs fucking suck in 2025 because their owners are fucking phony faggots and nogunz at heart.

WASR vindicated yet again.

>>64126615
>tfw took a break from shooting AKs to focus on handguns for like three years because of ammo prices
Haha yeah…

This is all retarded shit.
Post AKs, faggots.

As much as you guys and reddit are bugged about this wbp thing when I search (whatever ak brand)+failures almost everything else seems to turn up more issues. I was the guy in the last thread asking about wbp vs Draco vs zpap, and this had me a little nervous at first but it really does still seem like the best bet and I'm also reading pretty good things about their customer service if something does happen. Think I'm probably still going with the wbp. I was planning on it being my go to gun but I do still have a perfectly good ar in case.

>64126615 (No, U)
>not the brightest bunch in the world

>>64126664
What's your picrel say?

>>64126656
It's called squeaky wheel bias. >>64126717
Wish I knew.

I was planning on getting a WBP next month but now I'm just seeing the stuff about the bolts. I'm just gonna wait and see what happens cause I did want picrel, but in the event their stuff becomes a no-go, what should I get.

>>64126649
I got called a noguns faggot the last time I posted an AK in this thread.
Anyway what’s Ukraine is going to do with all their old surplus Soviet AKs once they phase them out for NATO weapons? Do you think we could see a resurgence of parts/imports in the US? I know it’s unlikely but a man can always dream.

>>64126784
For adorable import AKs? Probably a WASR. Not much else in that market unless you wanna pay more or buy a domestically made AK.

>>64126792
>I got called a noguns faggot
That's just the price of admission here. Don't take it personal and just keep posting

>>64126812
Homemade gopnic panzersheck my love.

>>64126812
Did he die or was that shit just that powerful

>>64126792
>Anyway what’s Ukraine is going to do with all their old surplus Soviet AKs once they phase them out for NATO weapons? Do you think we could see a resurgence of parts/imports in the US? I know it’s unlikely but a man can always dream.
Are you retarded? There is a zero percent chance of that happening. Even if the battlefield situation would allow for Ukraine to be in a position to surrender weapons (it's not). You don't see STG-44 parts kits from Syria or AK parts kits from Afghanistan on the market do you?

The truth is the guns, will quickly end up in one conflict zone or another, as they always do. My money is on Azerbaijan-Armenia, remember governments and factories would much rather sell to international arms-dealers and "moderate" rebels than US civilians. If you don't believe me look into where all the Arsenal guns went from 2014 -2020.

>>64126656
A fool and his money are easily parted

>>64126822
Best case a mean headache. This clip always makes me wonder how far sugar, fertilizer, kitty litter, and a trip to Home Depot could take you

>>64126942
Not your rifles, noguns

>>64126508
I don't believe they are. I can take some additional photos if you'd like

>>64126615
Based
WASR supremacy forever

just bought a draco. I have a TWS dogleg rail and cnc warrior brace on the way as well, how should I set up the front end and any thoughts on muzzle device?

>>64127209
LAF Brake

>>64127209
welcome gang

>>64127209
>any thoughts on muzzle device
https://echo93.com/amd-c-muzzle-brake/
It's only $15 too.

>>64127233
glad to be here my nigga
ill post some pics once I get my choppa set up, opps better watch da fuck out

>>64126379
Proof or source for this claim? I asked you this in the last thread and you ignored it. Bet you'll ignore it again because you're making shit up

>>64127567
Hell yeah. Love my draco

>>64124712
I have heard about WBP issues in Europe too so it's not just you

>>64126237
It's a no no for over under shotguns and some handgun designs like 1911s and the CZ 75

>>64127898
I've never heard that you shouldn't dry fire a 1911

>>64127950
It was actually about dropping the slide on an empty chamber (which might also happen when dry firing unless you just cock it via the hammer), my bad, but apparently some race gun tier 1911s don't even like dry fire

>>64128052
>dropping the slide on an empty chamber
I've always thought that was fuddlore, but I read through several 1911 owner's manuals just now, and the Ruger and Colt manuals I found specifically tell you to drop the slide on an empty chamber as a part of the unloading procedure. S&W doesn't say anything either way, unless I'm missing it. In the Dan Wesson unloading procedure it says
>Release the slide stop and slowly close the slide...
which seems to imply that you shouldn't just drop the slide on empty, but it doesn't specifically tell you not to do that.
And the Nighthawk Custom manual states
>Don’t let the slide fall on an empty chamber. This will cause the hammer to start following the slide down. The 1911 is made to load one round each time the slide goes forward. Dropping it on an empty chamber will eventually knock the sear out of alignment.
interesting
The Nighthawk manual also says dry fire is fine and encouraged and that snap caps are unnecessary

I missed you /akg/ , is the gay caption bullshit still 999 seconds?

>>64126784
Zastava since they're only gonna keep getting more expensive due to Serbia's export ban.
>>64128129
Dry fire is fine on 1911s, but you shouldn't let the slide slam home on an empty chamber because of the internal extractor. It's supposed to work with a round chambered to cushion the impact of the breechface against the barrel.

>>64128150
sometimes

>>64128690
Like I said before, some manufacturers say it's fine and some say it isn't.
Do or don't do whatever you want but I trust the manufacturer of my firearm more than Anonymous on 4chan

>>64128150
its 120

>>64127570
read the thread, lazy nigger

Question. I have a 7.62x39 Vepr rifle. It has a slant cut receiver with an adapter to make a standard 90 degrees. I'm pretty sure the receiver is an RPK receiver and the importer (marked as Anaheim, CA) put an AK stock in it, as there is a great deal of play between the stock tang and adapter. I used an AR stock adapter, but I find it raises the checkweld too high to comfortably use the iron sights. Therefore, I would like to put an actual set of RPK furniture on it. Specifically, I would like to put a set of plum RPK furniture on it, pic rel. The problem is, I'm not sure how it actually mounts to the gun. Does it use the two standard wood screws of an AK stock? Can't find a good picture of a top-view of the stock in pic rel.

>>64129367
>I'm pretty sure the receiver is an RPK receiver and the importer (marked as Anaheim, CA) put an AK stock in it, as there is a great deal of play between the stock tang and adapter. I used an AR stock adapter, but I find it raises the checkweld too high to comfortably use the iron sights. Therefore, I would like to put an actual set of RPK furniture on it. Specifically, I would like to put a set of plum RPK furniture on it, pic rel. The problem is, I'm not sure how it actually mounts to the gun. Does it use the two standard wood screws of an AK stock? Can't find a good picture of a top-view of the stock in pic rel.
The stock in your pic is for the RPK-203, a side folder that's why there's a cut out on the side of the stock. If your VEPR is converted as you say to a standard 90 degree receiver, you should be able to buy a standard wood or polymer clubfoot and put it on your gun.

>>64129495
wait nvm that stock is a plum RPK-74 stock not a side folder, but yeah any clubfoot should fit your gun

>>64127577
very nice

>>64123733 (OP)
Happy saturday /AKG/

i want to get a pioneer arms both 5.56 and 7.62, i can't seem to find any 5.56 ak's that seem to be worth their weight so i think pioneer is the cheapest option.

Should I get a wasr-10 instead of a jack now that they supposedly sell shitty guns

why doesnt wbp use pic related in their brand new aks and chose to have that chrome bcg?

>>64130405
>now that they supposedly sell shitty guns
Since when

>>64126656
I think it's one just one crazy guy making stuff up and replying to himself. I dunno this place is full of weird people.

>>64130427
Read near the start of the thread, people sneeding about bolt breakages. Something like 5 people had bolts break within the last month after a few thousand rounds, meaning they had to have had the rifles for a fair while.
People think WBP is using QC rejected parts for rifles they sell on the American market, but its still up in the air right now.

>>64130480
>like 5 people
Links? I don't care about anonymous 4chan posts.

Is the JRA Gallant a good rifle or is it a hand grenade? I have been wanting a 5.56 AK but I don't want a Zastava or a jack with a nitride barrel.

>>64130574
Mine works so far. Don't have a lot of rounds through it.

>>64130574
>>64130632
/Arg/ told me they were trash. So they're probably fine.

>>64130769
I mean, it's JRA so I would be leary. All I can say is my example of 1 hasnt blown up.

>>64130807
Does JRA have a bad reputation?

>>64130816
I've read less than stellar things but it's the internet, people are more likely to bitch about something than say how good something is. All I know is that in 500 rounds, it's track record is better than my 106cr.

>>64130283
Get a FB Radom firing pin for when the Pioneer one inevitably breaks. Beyond that they're fine for what they are, cheap rifles.
>>64130405
WASR because its the best AKM in my opinion. If Cugir would go back to dimpling them like they used to.
>>64130574
JRA doesn't have the best reputation but lets be honest here bros how many times have we collectively said this? And how many times have we been proven right? Not many. Anyway take it with a grain of salt.

>>64130860
how's the sight? does it lose zero if you remount it?

Got some molle frogs for my belt kit

>>64130893
I like it. Its heavy and crowds your peripheral vision though. Its very sturdy and has retained zero like it ought to.

Holy shit look at that heat treating. Why isn’t WBP x-raying their bolts?

>>64130860
the only thing i've thought of is running only .223 through it, ive heard the trigger spring is too strong and that's what breaks the pin and then klayco got a new one where it broke the receiver, so he recommended putting some rubber stop in the back of the receiver. but i just don't think AK should cost more than WASR-10. but if i break it, it'll become a glorified parts kit for me to practice on.

>>64126379
oh so this is the new lemonschizonade nonsense

>>64130860
Buy once cry once I guess. I'm gonna get one just on the fact that I don't want to spend a bunch of money on 7.62x39.

>>64130952
>PSA: Has issues on early guns with firing pins hole size and breakage, not a danger to user and is easily fixed for free.
>Everyone collectively losses their minds, PSA AKs become untouchable overnight
>WBP: Bolts literally fucking shear in half, have the potential to literally injure the user is chambered pressure is high enough
>WBP Shills: I-It’s just a lemon guys I swear! We’re totally not like sig never mind the fact we have literally nothing to do with Radom AKA the original WBP factory that made actual Warsaw Pact AKs. We’re totally not just another Springfield Armory tier company that sells defective parts for sale on the AoA website to retarded gun-consoomer obsessed ignorant muttmerican market for 200% they’re retail price in Poland!
PSA haters, Apologize NOW!

>>64131328
No

>>64131328
You memory-holed the AKV fiasco
>Delete bolt carrier tail because PSA "engineers" say yolo
>Don't bother to put in an OOB safety like the Vityaz, KP-9, or even Nova-9
>People start getting OOBs and ruptured cases
>PSA rep goes "I-i-its the Ammo's fault you used Herter's/Winchester White box, Tulammo, etc."
>PSA releases their own ammo line
>Proceeds to blow up more AKVs
>Starts deleting all comments in their circlejerk facebook group and ban users posting pics of damaged guns, and refusing warranty work.

>>64131411
>You memory-holed the AKV fiasco
Because only faggots and men who molest children buy PCCs based on a rifle design.

guess what guys, I'm buying a WBP to throw this furniture on, and it's going to work just fine because I've only SEEN 1 broken bolt and only HEARD rumors of 5 out of the thousands of rifles WBP makes, and I also don't trust a word that fat balding double chin lemon brained nigger has to say

>>64131472
how do you put this grip on wbp tho

>>64131472
As a WBP owner
Why?
AMD-65 parts kits are still pretty affordable.

We finally figured it out, the "WBP sells reject parts to the US market" guy who makes shit up is the PSA guy

>>64131685
>https://www.amazon.com/M6-1-0-Socket-Screws-Stainless-Machine/dp/B07GCKL9G5
with this size screw and take it to hardware store to find a washer that screws on and fits

>>64131328
Radom's own fault for treating the civilian market with the same contempt H&K do

>>64131693
Because I'd rather pay the extra money to have a complete rifle vs the hassle of building, and I don't care enough to have a "real" Hungarian for my cloneish build.

>>64131693
>AMD-65 parts kits are still pretty affordable.
I have a spare Meridian Defense 7.62 receiver cut for a triangle folder, is it Khyber-65 time?

>>64125199
That guy is a prissy autismo faggot. Might do good work but he's a bitch.

>>64131472
>fake amd-65 furniture on a reject ak
glorious

>>64131789
>take it to hardware store
yeah naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah too much busy work

>>64132676
You outed yourself as a schizo too soon. Could've had a few anons doubting wbp if you went smart about it.

unrelated to the WBP issues, should I sell my Fox as one thing or part it out? I bought it for 1k & slapped a Bonesteel Arms folder & Definitive Arms Fighter brake on it like a retard

Anyone have an ACTUAL non shit post opinion or experience with the newer forged hellpup pro or similar pioneer shit?

this is so sexy

>>64133931
>nonshitpost
We don't do that here.wakanda
So tell me, what is it about the hellpup is so appealing over say a draco or M92?
It can't possibly be that much cheaper that one would risk their face and fingers for the monetary savings.
So what is it?

>>64134129
Looks nicer I guess. Also, notanigger ironically but get the obvious connection. Have a wasr already but grabbed one of these because it was nice for $550 and says they are forged now that's all

>>64134177
>says they are forged now
That doesn't mean very much though, there's more to manufacturing parts to-spec than a method of individual part creation.
The specific metal alloy used could still be substandard. The hardening process could be substandard. Both would be dangerous to the end user, even if the part is "forged."
Considering Pioneer's history of trying to pretend to be FB Radom to ride their laurels, I wouldn't put "weasel-wording around actually having quality components while still selling the same shit that will harm the user" beyond them.

>>64134218
Is there any pictures or videos or posts of them failing? I've heard all the shit talking but never seen pics. I have seen Zastava butter metal receivers cracking and ripping though...

>>64126379
>source: my ass

>>64134283
Did you even try to use google to answer your own question? Try these phrases:
>Pioneer Arms AK broken trunnion
>Pioneer Arms AK cracked trunnion
>Pioneer Arms AK broken bolt
>Pioneer Arms AK cracked bolt
We have ~20 years of Pioneer AKs failing in dangerous ways, both ones that were branded IO and Pioneer.
NPAPs had bad heat treat on receivers in a few batches, but their trunnions were still done properly and the receiver issue was amended in future production (and if you were willing and had a bad one, it could be fixed yourself with a new receiver and rivet set or by a gunsmith willing).
IO and Pioneer both had bad trunnions and bad assembly, and we don't know if the new "forged" ones are any better. This could not be fixed on your own without swapping all the parts in the first place.
We don't know yet on the new "forged" parts.
Do YOU want to be the guinea pig who loses a finger if it fails to find out? That's why we say to avoid them. Let someone else risk theirs.

>>64133353
>selling guns
>>64133931
They are fine for cheap guns. I'd be more comfortable with the 7.62 one anyway given the chamber pressure is lower than 5.56. But yes they used forged trunnions and bolts.
That being said, there's zero reason to get a Hellpup when Romanian Dracos exist.
>>64134352
You're not wrong but you're also ignoring the previous 6 or so years where we haven't seen nearly as many (like, nearly zero tbqh) catastrophic failures as we saw in the past.

>>64134410
In those past 6 years we also haven't seen a dedicated massive round count test on one with documented evidence of its wear progression like we used to from the likes of AKOU and others, at least in a place that has reach to the general "gun owners on the internet" space (read: not a walled garden like AKFiles).
We also haven't had as many catastrophic failures with WASRs as with Pioneer guns during that period, and for barely more money you can get a WASR, so why would I buy Pioneer? "Because WASRs don't come in 5.56?" That's the ONLY reason I can think of.

Damn lol glad I sold my WBP jack for an unfired SAR-1.

>>64134352
Fair enough I guess. But my questions were genuine and no type of cope. I figured it was too good a deal to pass up if they had fixed any major issues and would be ok as a beater/secondary gun. I am under no delusion that it's "just as gud"

>>64134456
If they were genuinely forged to the same spec as other AKs (that don't harm their users), they'd be at a price competitive with them.
For the price of the old known-to-be-bad ones to be the same as the new unknown-if-its-good ones, that raises an eyebrow. Sure it could just be "we want to secure market share via underselling to improve our brands' reputation," but they lied in their marketing in the past and have a history of it, so why wouldn't they lie in their marketing now? There's too many red flags for me to say it's worth it even as a toy. Atlantic has Dracos for $700, the Pioneer pistols are $540 there. $160 dollars is a lot less than any hospital bill you'd get if the gun fucks up, so for peace of mind I'd go for the one that has a massive history of being a reputable product. If you're a poorfag, wait 2 weeks and you can afford the Draco. Self control with money is a good skill to learn if you're poor or "nouveau riche."

>>64131328
how many WBP bolts have burst apart? 3? Out of how many? People have tried to shit on Zastavas for the same thing, where did that ever go? I love how every time lemonschizo talks shit about something, some dorks on 4chan repeat the talking points

uh, lmao? What the fuck is this shit? I dont remember these costing this much hahaha what bullshit

>>64131454
Isn't the MP5 a PCC based on a rifle design?

>>64134680
Prices go up when the value of the currency goes down, anon.
Did you just wake up from 2019?
On the other hand, if you think it isn't worth that price, just don't buy one. Krebs was always overpriced for what it is in terms of their in-house parts.

>>64134659
>3
So far I've only seen that one bolt, that's been used over and over (>>64130952)
since at least May.

>>64134680
kek I was just looking at those earlier and thinking to myself how overpriced they are. They’re mainly for compfags who want to shave an extra half-second off their scores.

>>64134659
literally. m26 lemon brain is a fat retard and none of his opinions matter

captcha: VAG4JK

>>64134715
Did you wake up from 2008 anon, they've been over priced since the early 2010s after Krebs blew up real big with all the Saigas coming in.

>>64134849
They were ~$55 in 2018 when I last considered buying one, any price being lower before that further supports my point on price inflation.
I mentioned 2019 in particular because the USD tanked the following year, you know why (and I knew the price the year prior).
The prices are overinflated, and have been aggressively so in the past few years because of the economy, but I also said they were just overinflated in general. You aren't disagreeing with me if that was your intention.

>>64134895
>They were $55
Damn you got ripped off if you did buy.
I'll repeat again, Krebs shop has been pricing their shit stamped steel product at $60 since at least 2013. Other websites usually have it for less. USD doomer nonsense aside. Again, did you wake up on 08 prior to their massive price increases?

>>64134924
One listing for a product exists at a price higher than you remember, and now because you found a listing for the same piece at a price lower than you claim was the price since 2013, my own remembered price from ONE seller in the past is a decade out of date, even though it's higher than the listing you found at Midway that exists now?
What even is your argument? Prices vary between sellers? Yea, they do.
Inflation and demand also affect prices though; guns, parts and ammo have been an area prices have gone up in the past 5 years, and a Krebs safety is in fact part of that market. Demand and Krebs being a fart-huffer can't be the ONLY things causing that price, because Saigas have been banned from import for over a decade and the AK market is hardly doing well.

>>64135095
What are you even babbling about? The safety has been priced at $60 for over a decade on the Krebs website. My point is two fold. One, Krebs has been over priced and stable in their over price since the rise and fall of the Saiga boom. Two, the price has not budged since 2019. Again, USD doomer bloomer pee pee poomer changes have no bearing on this. Krebs is and has been over priced for years. It got worse with the deluge of Saigas and their disappearance from the market has not altered this

>>64135137
One, that first post I replied to isn't the Krebs website (it's Khyber Customs), and I never said anything about the Krebs website for the price either, so this is a moot point via total irrelevance to either starting argument.
The price has clearly budged since 2019 as well, since you showed it being $51.99 at Midway, meaning your point 2 is also moot via being disproven by your own argument.
Three, I never said Krebs wasn't overpriced. Read my first post in this discussion again, particularly the last sentence:
>Krebs was always overpriced for what it is in terms of their in-house parts.
Are you just fixated on the inflation thing? It affects the market at-large similar to the Saiga ban, before you claim goalpost moving; if less people buy AKs because of their dollar being worth less, it means less people buy Krebs safeties, meaning he either raises prices on a captured market just slightly or lowers prices to appeal to more people. He went with the former, clearly.

>>64134924
Damn it feels good to be left handed and not need this.

I was told there would be AKs in /akg/, not /biz/ retardation.
Post AKs

>>64134451
Fuuuck I should sell my Jack before the reddit crowd tanks them. What’s the buzz with WBP using bad qc parts on akfiles? I’m still out on a racism ban.

>>64135574
lemon schizo grenade says with no evidence that WBP is putting rifles together with defective parts and dummies who dont know any better assume he's preachin troof

>>64135615
There’s like 3 on plebbit and i will admit those lead poisoned midwit faggots actually shoot their guns unlike here

>>64135229
k

>>64130928
Who makes it?

>>64130424
Because redditors literally have the intellectual tendencies of crows.

>>64130632
Nice pic, jelly

>>64131328
Fuck BOTH PSA and WBP

>>64133353
Parting out always more money for seller, better value for most buyers.

>>64134451
Good redeem

>>64131328
I knew it was over when they admitted to billet trunnions and no one cared.

Deeznutztactical FRT working decently well in Romo gordo PM md. 90 SBR build. CHF CL barrel btfo nitride shit. Inconel can BTFO SS shit.
250rnds no malfs or issues. Just ordered another 840 rounds of Igman new production 7.62x39. Stupid ass 54cpr

https://streamable.com/jecio8

Same drill, semi auto for comparison.
2 shots at 35yds, one per target
Spring 15yds to 20yd line, 4 shots left reload 4 shots right
8x16" steel, about 1.27x the area of IPSC A+B zone total area

https://streamable.com/34reki

Waiting anxiously on three position AK FRT
https://streamable.com/y0omgm

>>64136329
since it's not semi auto it's SAFE or FULLY SEMI AUTO do you just barely pull the trigger to get single shots off at a time? have you heard of the Diablo AK FRT?

What amount of involvement did Century have in making the Zastava M70AB Sporters? I know some they did very basic stuff for 922(r) compliance and others they were building iirc but now what specific models. Asking because there is one that might make ne get into Yugos.

just love my ak. Somehow more than my other guns.

Anyone know if I can put a normal AK bcg into my galil? I got a dovetail mounted picatinny rail but it just barely gets in the way of the vertical charging handle. I can't find any aftermarket galil bcg's with horizontal charging handles so if I cant swap it out for some sort of AK bcg I'll just chop off the vertical charging handle and re-weld it onto the bcg.

>>64136263
Crows are smart birds

>>64136557
I'd say yes but my only frame of reference is a Galil that was converted for 7.62x39.

>>64136274
it doesnt matter

>>64136372
They subcontracted the builds out and sold them under their name

>>64133353
As an autist who buys a ton of guns, kits them out, then decides he hates themand sells them off, part out. It's tedious and more work but you'll move them sooner.

In my experience especially selling stuff locally, anything under $600 moves pretty quickly if the price is fair, over $600 is slower, over $800 is very slow, and shit over $1k doesn't move. The forum boomers and tacswap zoomers are broke motherfuckers. So anything over 1k I put on armslist.

>>64137352
*gunbroker, sorry, havent used armslist in a decade and i still mix the two names up

Bulgy 74 a cute

Bought a m68 training grenade from this site

https://www.yuantiques.com/blog/rifle-grenades-

Sail said it failed on the sight but I was charged. Used PayPal, reached out to the email associated with the sites PayPal. They confirmed it went through and gave me shipping info. Bought a second one now that I know its legit.

>>64137422
Link broke

https://www.yuantiques.com/jna-ypa-yugoslav-peoples-army-white-m68-practice-rifle-school-grenade-model-for-display-3435

They have both black fin and white fin, idk the difference

>>64130208
>stock romy plastic grip
get a polish fatty or bulgarian bake theyre cheap, and they don't try to escape your hand at the first sign of moisture in the atmosphere

>>64130485
Where can I get that patch?

Anyone put an AK FRT setup in a milled AK(M)?

>>64136370
Yeah so the two singles I'm shooting at the start of the drill at 35yds I'm getting by just quickly tapping the gun, cyclic is slow enough that if you come off the trigger fast enough you get singles, no issues or malfs.
So the Diablo AK FRT just looks like a rebranded KONO/MARS trigger. It is fundamentally a different design that the Deeznutztactical design (not sure whomsts' design it was originally but yeah). I've fired my friend's KONO/MARS setup and the trigger slap was atrociously painful, AND the wire cylindrical steel trip bar just ended up bending.
I'm not a fan of the design from my experience with it.

>>64136386
I used to have a build like that. Picture related. Heavy pig.

>>64136588
But birds nonetheless.

i am now finally part of the M70 family after having a Z92 and M90 for a long while

checking in for my yearly /akg/ thread
>Are PSAs still alleged unusable pieces of shit?
>Are ZPAPs still the price to performance goat?
What’s the meta “if you’re not using this you’re gonna be immediately head tapped in a SHTF” right now

>>64139218
AR15

Hungarian AK’s are neat

>>64137422
Nice. Now you need a Yugo grenade pouch.
>>64137435
>They have both black fin and white fin, idk the difference
Well you see, one has black fins and the other, white. It's a subtle but distinct delineation.

>>64139519
Yeah

I have an NHM-91 and I'd like to attach an optic in the least intrusive, and most reversible way. What should I go for?

>>64139743
Master mount side rail and your choice of side rail optic mount. An RS Regulate would be my recommendation.

>>64130485
Based

>>64137361
What's the details on yours? Mine's an Atlantic build from one of their last batches with an OG Bulgy barrel. Overall insanely nice and straight build

>>64139999
Checked

>>64136557
I would guess the gas piston would need to be changed but it might otherwise work.

How come the walnut grip and the "Serbian red" grip are shaped so differently?

>>64138399
>I've fired my friend's KONO/MARS setup and the trigger slap was atrociously painful
thank you, i'll avoid KONO MARS and Diablo

>>64141044
Socioeconomic reasons.

>>64141044
no particular raisin

>>64141044
The Serbian red grip repliates the US Palm grip except made of wood. I think the walnut grip is supposed to replicate the standard AKM peg grip.

>>64140500
Bulgarian kit with OG barrel built by Aly & Kaufman

>>64126096
You are a massive loser for being upset about REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT and still managing to find a way to sit on that website. Painting pictures around you and jumping at the sight of them, big ol faggot. Get off the internet for awhile.

>>64142140
>zigger spam image
You are brown

>>64144126
the focus is on the AK, it's an AK picture you absolute faggot tourist keep your stupid bullshit in your containment threads

>>64143100
I wish Bulgarian wood wasn't so butt fucking ugly. It really ruins the rifle for me.
Soviet wood though HNNNGGGGGGG

>>64140500
>ISD kit (commercial rifle, not circle 10)
>wrong receiver
>wrong finish
>no OG pistol grip
>unspecified amount of USA parts
>$1900
Why did you buy this anon

>>64140983
>the coolest ak ever made
>cancel it and just keep making reskinned ak-74's
truly a gay timeline

>>64144601
Yeah that's pretty irredeemable tbqh sorry anon.
That's a $1200 gun at most

>>64144642
$400 at most
I picked one of them kits up 20 years ago for $80

>>64144655
I'm not being hyperbolic, it's realistically a 1k-1.2k rifle after it's said and done. I'd never buy it though and I'd not suggest anyone else buy it either.

>>64144601
ISD kits are literally scrubbed circle 10 bruh. I can literally show you where they ground the front trunnion.

>>64144601
also you know OG pistol grips are like $20 right?

see >>64134825

>>64144816
ISD is a commercial manufacturer, its not (10). Just like how WBP fags pretend its the same thing as FB. Cope and seethe

>>64144551
same

>>64144951
>Just like how WBP fags pretend its the same thing as FB
And how Nova Modul sells things labeled "Cugir" because they're geographically located in Cugir, Romania.
And how Pioneer Arms sells things labeled "Radom" because they're geographically located in Radom, Poland.

Wait I'm sensing a theme here

>>64144951
retard alert

Speaking of Nova Modul, how are these?
https://armsofamerica.com/romanian-ak-9mm-cz-scorpion-evo-model/

Was thinking of getting one since its like the only 9mm AK I don't hate besides the PP-19 family.

>>64130574
I also wanted an AK in 5.56 cause I like shooting my guns. I was planning on getting picrel but I got a bit worried over the WBP shit going on right now.
Are the nitride barrels on the 5.56 jacks actually unusable or is that just something thats happened to like 3 people.
If I don't get the jack I'll probably get the Gallant.

>>64144951
wrong, do research. ISD kits are surplus circle 10 parts kits that were acquired from govt and scrubbed.

>>64145134
>I was planning on getting picrel but I got a bit worried over the WBP shit going on right now.
That 'shit' is just that. Also the 'shit' deals with their parts kits coming in and not their full built rifles.
>Are the nitride barrels on the 5.56 jacks actually unusable or is that just something thats happened to like 3 people.
Do more research and consoom more guntooooobers + lurk more gun related forums or dare I say open a reddit hread link to something related to this. Despite what other anons will say I know they do it too.
Personally I would say you are fine. It it what I was planning on getting if they ever introduce either a 4.5mm side fold trunnion or have a model without the optics rail mount. Since they lack those and AoA had a sale on the Beryl back in June I ended up getting one of those instead. So just know most of what I have said here is from my own digging and not from firsthand experience.

Pic unrelated, I got tired of looking for a Beryl or something Polish in my k folder and went with that because its cute.

>>64145315
Alright I will probably get one then, thankyou

>>64126784
just get a wasr

>>64145003
Based
>>64145268
Cope
>>64145011
Seethe

>>64145406
I'm not the one that has to continue going through life wrong and retarded. Honestly don't care much if you believe it or not, I know research is hard.

>>64145349
Dracos fuck so hard I can't wait to get mine

Anyone have advice on where to get some nice wood like that for it? Idk if the red russian stuff it comes with from at lantic is any good.

>>64126784
get a Zastava or WBP. Get a WASR if you're poor and don't care about fit and finish. WBP Jacks and M70s are both better than WASRs. WASRs only get praised nowadays because so many imports have ended.

>>64146189
>WASRs only get praised nowadays because so many imports have ended.
This. The WASR dickriding started years ago when Bob Sled began shilling them after Obongo's Saiga ban. Before that they were known as "What A Shitty Rifle," and prices have only gotten worse since then.

>>64146640
you know the AK market is bad when people almost act as if cheap furniture and canted sights are features instead of bugs

>>64146715
Let's not forget how Atlantic sold "QC inspected" WASRs at an upcharge for years.

Hello and good morning my fellow racists I have returned after not posting for an unspecified amount of time, and due to personal reasons have decided to pass away. Before all that, please look upon my works and go "oooo.. aaaaaahh" for a sec. I built a bulgarian krink finally, so now I can finish my other 3 romy builds I have sitting in boxes in my garage. PM90 coming next. Yes, Im getting new non-shit furniture for the handguard. Got some wood ones in trade but they suck humungo donkey cock so those NGMI. The paint is literally just engine primer, one coat, and it scratches easy as you can see on that rivet so Im still debating on how Ill finalize it. Chances are with this one, I'll just fuckin leave it and beat the shit out of it. Supposedly it cures much tougher once heated, like enamel paint, so Im gonna mag dump on it with my buddy from South Korea who hasnt shot guns yet next week. Once you actually throw one together, your first thought, as predicted is "my full size 74N is better", but I don't care. Is cool - had fun. pls direct blogpost complaints to the jannies for banning me for a month for calling mandic a "cum tanker awaiting a thirsty serbian for an aerial refueling"

>>64145421
>seething intensifies
Your ISD parts kit is not (10). You have been deceived by kikelantic, many such cases. Your quarrel is with them, not me.

>>64146939
Can I have your guns once you an hero?

WASRCHADS. It be Wednesday my dudes.

>>64147287
I think this is fair and equitable. Post a statement disavowing, Glock, Sig, Zastava and the entire country of china, and the answer is yes.

>>64147392
Hell yeah. Nice Hi-Power.

>>64147392
Hi-power gang rise.

>>64139218
>PSA
better than the worst, but worse than any import
>Zastava
yeah still good rifles and the aftermarket has gotten better

>>64147882
PSA is on par with WBP and Pioneer (two other commercial AK brands).

>>64147497
Glock is boring normies shit with mushy triggers, sigs blast their own users, zastava is over priced trash that is minimally compatible with a real ak and chinese people are borg like bugmen with no individuality led by a corrupt government that is haplessly attempting to sell the world on their shiny turd of an economy

>>64148050
Welcome to the family trust and will, friend.

>>64148020
WBP is better than PSA and Pioneer combined

>>64148098
Thank you saaaar!

>>64148111
I can’t hear you over the breaking firing pins and billet trunnion

>>64148111
*shears your bolt*

>>64147392
Need my dimples

>>64147392
>>64147578
>>64147763
>>64145349
WASRkings stay winning

Side note, anyone shoot that Czech red tracer ammo? I picked up like...200 rounds of it for a song. I want to go shoot it lmao

>>64148796
This stuff

>>64148796
So go shoot it? It's just tracers. As long as where you're shooting isn't a tinderbox, it should be ok.
>to make them last longer, I recommend using them as "end of mag" rounds.
I personally like 3rd from last, so when I see trace it means 2 rounds left. I can either expend both and load a fresh mag and rack or pop 1, reload and now I don't need to rack the bolt again.
Or just load them all into two 100rnd drums, get an FRT and have a fun light show for a couple of seconds.

>>64148186
>billet trunnion
Are we just making shit up now?

>>64147191
nigga thinks people are seething when I'm kicking back with my (10) basically an Arsenal AK74 and a beer. Not my fault you're poor.

snagged for $110 how'd i do? haven't really been able to find what milled type 56 parts kits go for.

>>64149130
Seems decent enough. Chinese flatbacks are pricey enough on their own, and pricing out individual chink parts are expensive. Gonna be a huge W if that bore ends up being good. What receiver will you use for it? Does tortort have chink style receivers?

>>64149155
Was planning on a tortort, supposedly the bore is good and this auctions site has been honest in the past with bore conditions

>>64149130
just the bolt and carrier and mag go for $100

>>64148878
I plan to shoot them, I've loaded a couple mags full of them to shoot at twilight or in the darkness. What's the range at which you'll see them? I have access to two ranges nearby; one is easy to access but only about 70 yards long, the other takes a good chunk of your day to reach but has 400 yard lanes and is private so it's nice.
The end of magazine idea is neat though I think I'll incorporate that into my ohshit mags if they work well (which I expect they will).

>>64149364
>What's the range at which you'll see them?
Depends on the tracer. Some ignite right out of the barrel, others at ~50m iirc.

>>64148186
>>64148347
>same m26 schizo grenade talking points as usual
it's as if you WASR fanboys wouldnt know how to even operate an AK without him uploading videos. Remember when people tried to say Zastavas were falling apart? I member

>>64149406
Interesting thanks anon I'll look further into these to see

>>64145349
Love my fucking Romo Gordo

>>64149437
these guys are insufferable

wonder how many thousands of WBP Fox and Jacks have sold since 2019, if only a handful had fuckups that's pretty on par with any other manufacturer, Arsenal and Cugir and Izzy and Norinco included
>t. owns both a WASR and a Jack

>>64149437
>As if WASRs never killed a bolt
lol. lmao even

>>64149484
Where you get the optic from?

>>64149716
Ebay, akfiles, redd*t, instagram, Facebook

>Always wanted a PP-19
>Think the SnT Stizon is cool, but not close enough to the real thing
>Learn some other company is putting out a 95%ish correct one
>mfw the price is $3600

>>64150001
https://palmettostatearmory.com/soviet-arms-ak-v-9-75-pistol-w-alg-trigger.html

>>64149003
Will you denounce WBP if I prove they use billet trunnions?

>>64150072
nta, but look at third one down. Pretty sure they'd be caught by now if they were lying about this and why would they do that when they forge everything else important

>>64149003
he's been making shit up every week, last week he claimed (with no source of course) that the US only gets rejected AKs from WBP

>>64150117
The blank, i.e. billet is a forged piece of stock, not a real forging which starts off as a cast part roughly the shape of a trunnion, which is then forged and finish milled. They actually do this for their carrier, but not the trunnions. It's sneaky marketing lingo to trick dummies who don't know any better.

>>64150136
>They actually do this for their carrier, but not the trunnions
....so you just admitted they don't actually have billet trunnions, as you originally claimed?

>>64150138
A billet is a rectangular cross-section stock, which they absolutely use. That billet happens to be forged as initial stress relief, but it is not at all the same process as a real forging blank like I posted for a carrier.

I ask again, I'll show you proof if you promise to denounce WBP for using billet trunnions.

>>64150146
Why can't you just post your hate boner "secret proof"? Why do you need someone to promise something to you?

Hello /akg/, any recs for a mount and red dot. Was looking at them Venezuelan pk-a but couldn't find any in stock. I want to maintain it's sovl.

>>64150148
Because I know you're going to move the goalposts. You're a brand loyal sycophant who is just going to invent a new cope on the spot. You can either a) agree to denounce billet trunnions, or b) admit that you don't care that your commercial grade rifle doesn't use proper manufacturing processes.
BTW, this isn't secret proof at all. If you weren't such a newfag you'd remember that this was heavily discussed a year ago when WBP themselves proudly showed off their billet they use for their trunnions.

>>64150156
You think way too much about this bordering on obsession, just fucking post it

>>64150156
Nta, but where's the beef, nigger?
Also since I'm not following yous guys convo, how did you come to the conclusion that faggot A) owns a WBP and B) is that big of a brand slave like you that he feels the need to defend something you haven't even proven?
So post that shit.
>I think this shit is hilarious, the absolute shanty town of WBP

>>64150181
Because WBPollaks are bigger sycophants than PSAtards. I just want these WBP faggots to acknowledge that their commercial grade rifles are on par with PSA and that their favorite brand is cutting corners just like PSA on a manufacturing process that is not obvious to the naked eye. I just want some kind of minimal buy-in that he's not going to immediately change the subject when he sees the WBP rep gleefully hand the interviewer the trunnion billet. He couldn't do that so I can only assume he doesn't actually care whether it's a billet or a real forging.

Here's the video, time stamp is the billet, later on you can see what I mean by a real forging when they show the bolt carrier.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KKZLBU2j8&t=142s

Also, I want to clarify something I said earlier that is a bit inaccurate, the initial forging doesn't relive stress, that's done via heat treatment. The forging process aligns the grain structure of the steel, the entire point of forging a trunnion or bolt carrier is to align the grain structure in a general shape of the part. When you pre forge a billet, the grain structure has no relation to the part that is later machined out of it and you miss out on the benefits of doing a real forging. Sure, it's better that a complete mess than a raw casting, but that's a relatively low bar.

>>64150209
where did WBP hurt you? I guarantee you're also a brand sycophant for whatever AK you own, if any. I half believe you but you portray this is such a bitter way the other half of me believes it's just projection

>>64150222
>I half believe you
What do you not believe? My explanation of forging lacks the detail a mechanical engineer would give you but at a high level it's correct. You can turn on subtitles and see the WBP rep proudly say that the billet is for the trunnion and then watch them walk over to the CNC and show off several stages of the machining process. You see it in various stages of completeness because it requires several setups to be machined completely.

>>64150222
Oh, I guess just for posterity, this is what I'm talking about when I mean a real trunnion forging. This is from Izhmash.

And here's a PSA GF3, kek

>>64150251
I'm nta or anybody else that's replied to you before. And this is a genuine question- does it really matter that the trunnions are billet? Forged trunnions are stronger, but are billet trunnions strong enough?
I've never heard anything about WBP trunnions cracking/breaking/failing before.
Is this a matter of "can be expected to fail after 100k rounds instead of 200k"?

>>64150296
Frankly, probably not, or at least like you say it's not going to be an issue for the average shooter under nominal conditions. I've built kits with WBP trunnions and they're working fine. I suspect it might be why their lugs are shearing off bolts but I don't have definitive proof that they don't use die forging for the bolts. It could also just be a batch of bad heat treatment. On the same note, as bizarre as it is that PSA doesn't dimple their rivets, it doesn't actually matter for the majority of shooters.

The fact of the matter is, all of these commercial grade rifles are cutting corners in ways that they deemed non-critical. There's just a special brand of delusional superiority that rubs me the wrong way about WBP. I think WBP is outright lying by the way they market their trunnions but there isn't a swath of data showing that the trunnions are bad. They may be sufficient but they're a downgrade from mil-spec.

>>64150150
smart choice lad

>>64150156
>If you weren't such a newfag you'd remember that this was heavily discussed a year ago when WBP themselves proudly showed off their billet they use for their trunnions.
im still waiting for you faggots to explain how any of their parts are worse than any other AK part... once again, yet another m26 schizo grenade talking point.
>they didnt use the exact process as the original AKM manufacturing... yeah this thing will fall apart at around 5,001 rounds for sure... also, i notice some of you guys telling me that im saying the name wrong... well, i was injured in iraq so yeah hope you feel bad about yourself now

>>64150061
>Think the SnT Stizon is cool, but not close enough to the real thing

>>64136188
Pooland
Theres also one on etsy that sits higher but its a velcro attachment instead of snaps

>>64150209
Based source truther, WBP rejects on suicide watch.

>>64150498
It has already been explained multiple times, you’re just too ignorant to understand what has been said.
BTW, thanks for proving what I said in >>64150156 by instantly pivoting from “you’re lying that’s made up” to “well it doesn’t matter”. You don’t care that your commercial grade rifle cuts corners that even PSA doesn’t cut. That’s fine, it probably works for your light use case. WBP’s old cast trunnions also probably worked too

>>64147392
>>64147578

IRA by the way of Africa vibes

>>64150150
Best I can do are airshit clones made by Ping-Ping.

>>64150150
Too late zoomer, you’re gonna pay $500+ on ebay and gunjoker. You’re better off just getting an aimpoint + rs regulate.

>>64134410
>never reinvesting your money into other stuff
>>64136263
>>64137352
thanks for the advice homies, i'll prolly list it for 8 or 9 hunnid & the stock for 150 then bundle the muzzle break with a magna matic tool for 30 or 40, & see what happens

I want to sell my piece of shit saiga with midwest furniture on it. How much would be a reasonable ask at a store?

>>64151722
about tree fiddy

>>64151223
im not even that other anon you idiot. I'm just wondering if you can show me the busted bolt carriers, trunnions, receivers, etc. because it was muh forged billet?

>WBP = Will Break Prematurely
>billet trunnion, aka forged-in-a-CNC cope block
>fragile bolts that shear faster than your ego
>Polish range toy pretending to be a service rifle
>$1,200 cosplay AK with zero battlefield credibility
>PSA > your Ikea-tier pew pew
enjoy your ticking time bomb, fanboys

>>64147392
>>64147763
WASR and Hi power gang unite

>>64151938
Just like PSA owners, WBP owners don’t shoot their guns enough for it to be an issue. When they do, their bolt lugs tend to shear off before they can prematurely wear out their trunnions. It’s not a hypothetical problem, it’s a fact that milled parts do not have the same fatigue strength as a forged part. It’s quite literally why forging exists in manufacturing. You WBP niggers did the exact same cope when they used cast trunnions btw. It doesn’t matter that you’re not the other person I replied to, you’re all interchangeable drones.
>>64152174
It’s insane, they’re running cover for a company that is outright lying in their product listing.

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>>64134721
Fucking OOF. Look at that casting. What happened, did they heat it white hot or some shit? I’m not a metallurgist so I have no clue

>>64152236
>it's a shit rifle bro it will blow up only 40,000 rounds in bro trust me bro

>>64152413
imagine unironically owning a WBP
>you paid $1,200 for a ticking time bomb with a billet cope trunnion and a cast bolt
>your “heritage rifle” has less heritage than your dad who left when he saw you wearing your WBP polo
>every time you shoot, your fragile bolt cries harder than you after getting ghosted
>your trunnion has more cracks than your mom’s iphone screen
>WBP is literally the Hi-Point of imports

>>64152413
>brand slave defending false advertising
imagine my shawk

>>64152489
>>64152538
>it will break guise trust me
>give it 40,000 rounds and they will all start falling apart trust me
>maybe some will blow up at 60,000, but my point still stands dude
>yuuup, poor forging... seen it before... i give this one 70,000 rounds before she blows

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