Thread 64130570

Mountain Warfare edition

LYING ABOUT MEDICAL HISTORY: GOOD (YMMV)
LYING ABOUT CRIMINAL HISTORY: BAD

>Resources:
>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
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>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
pastebin.com/yg972vRE (embed) (Short version)
pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (embed) (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
SWCS SFAS guide
https://www.goarmysof.army.mil/Portals/100/Documents/USAJFKSWCS%20SF%20Prep%20Manual.pdf?ver=b5Y4cCheXzm4z44sO0JVtg%3D%3D
Stew Smith Fitness
https://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps)

>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.

>www.airwarriors.com/community/
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS

>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png (embed)
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

>Info on sf86
www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ (embed)

>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://www.dantes.mil/Education-Programs/Get-College-Credit-for-What-You-Know/

>What is MHS GENESIS?
www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal

>Do you go to Airborne before RASP with an option 40 contract?
No, stop asking.

>>64130570 (OP)
>Turning 29 next month
>Thinking of joining
Anyone else infantry here? Whats the lifestyle like at our age?

>>64130593
If you're fit, then just hanging with the bros carrying heavy shit every FTX.

If you're unfit (you will become fit) then it will be a suck fest of fuckery, disappointment, and snickers at you

>>64130593
>Turning 29 next month
I'm 35 about to join in a few months. Can't wait to be called unc

>>64130593
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oSUUuNKR7E
Everyone in the video is wearing around 40-60lbs of body armor+water+ammo+other shit and generally sprinting or running from position to position. On larger exercises, they would ruck anywhere from 3-12 miles to an ORP (objective rally point) before hitting the X.
Training for stuff like this consists of individual training events (ranges, combatives PT, etc), PT (3-5 mile runs, rucks, bodyweight circuits, weightlifting), and collective training (walking through battle drills in the woodline, team and squad live fires, classes on different tactical tasks, medical training, EPW training, NVG training, etc).
To be good at the above you should be able to 1) physically keep up with the weekly volume of physical training, 2) work with people younger than you who may have authority over you, and 3) work well in a team under moderate to severe stress. Generally unless you're already physically fucked up from something you should be able to manage 1) as the amount of weekly exercise involved isn't really that much for the average gymgoer or runner. Points 2 and 3 can be difficult for some older guys as they sometimes expect to be treated differently based on their age and then get mad when a 21 year old SGT yells at them or a 19 year old PVT wakes them up for a guard shift.
If you can keep a cool head, excel physically, and (most critically) you are not an asshole or a retard (which has nothing to do with your ASVAB or IQ) then you'll likely get noticed by your leadership and get promotion waivers early on in your career. On the flip side, if you are a fuckup, you will stay as a junior soldier for a while.

>>64130643
>work with people younger than you who may have authority over you,
I don't know why us older people get so mad over this. There will be situations like in the military when younger people are the ones who have more experience and outrank. Did we all forget that experience speaks louder than age? Personally, it doesn't bother me at all. Not even intimidated.

>>64130643
what's downtime like? for an e1 enlisted infantryman.. how many times a day do you work?

>>64130687
Are you sure? I was told if you did 3 - 4 years of ROTC of any kind (in my situation, NJROTC) you only get E3 in Navy, Army is E2. But shieeet, I hope I'm wrong and you're right I'd like to get E3 in the Army.

>>64130675
You work typical work weeks but you'll get most federal holidays off, more often than not as part of a 4-day weekend, and sometimes your command will have additional training holidays as well. Of course you can end up working on weekends and holidays depending on your mission and you can also end up pulling duty on those days as well, but generally you have a little more time off than your average private sector worker.
Working hours will vary greatly depending on what your unit is up to. If you're doing something like a live fire or major exercise expect to work a lot. My first live fire ever I was out doing iterations from like 0500 to 0230 the next morning for about 3 nights running. Other times I would go several months just working 0900 to 1500 or so and then getting released to go to the gym. You will do morning PT as well, usually around 0600 to 0730 +/- 30 min, but some people don't count that as part of your working hours.

>>64130851
>If you're doing something like a live fire or major exercise expect to work a lot. My first live fire ever I was out doing iterations from like 0500 to 0230 the next morning for about 3 nights running
Thanks anon is that shit hard?

>>64130570 (OP)
we tried to warn you.........

Just a friendly reminder that the Coast Guard is the best branch

Is it true that if you're an older guy (30+), you could lack the proper "bone density" for good PT unless you've kept in shape through your youth, or is just bro science?
I'm not planning on trying for SF anything, but I've heard this and I'm curious if it's actually medically accurate. I'm 28 and planning on enlisting after I'm 30, but I've gone out of shape for almost 2 years, working an office job overseas.

>>64131371
Sounds like horseshit to me. Are you lifting regularly these days? Do your bones randomly snap while doing so?

im going 88k

>>64130593
Adding onto my question; I have a problem with shitty practices and actively exercise my opinions with these things. Will I go bonkers questioning retarded shit in the army (cause I feel like I will thinking about it)

>>64132261
Oh you're the good idea fairy? Yeah keep that shit inside.

>>64132314
>Bang rocks against wall to dig out cave
>"Hey guys why don't we use these pickaxes?"
>Get called a retard
Your response answers a lot of me lmfao

>"It was a trail of tears and douche bag cars," said a Special Forces member who witnessed the scene late last week while each soldier stopped for questioning had their vehicle parked along the street.

What's a "douche bag cars" according to a serviceman?
https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/news/fear-grips-special-ops-amidst-human-trafficking-drug-arrests

>>64132319
If you wanted to innovate you wouldn't have joined as an E4. Military has innovation centers already and you don't qualify for those,

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/23/army-tech-executives-palantir-meta-open-ai/84519374007/

they seem unarmed

>>64132319
>>64132261
the point isn't really to do
the point is for you to do in without complaint and with 100% motivation, obeying and working as a team. Basically: agree to sacrifice your own time/comfort/health/life for the Greater Good(tm). You get Good Boy points for it, too.

>that's dumb
yes, that's the army
>that doesn't work
it does, that's why they've been doing it forever. Discipline wins.
>I don't like that
then you know the army is not for you, plenty of other careers out there

>>64132343
But at least you'll get a good outcome which is a bad back (with some shitty follow-on surgeries and pain meds), additional debt as you try to match the debtmaxxers in your unit, and a lack of a useful degree because no one actually uses their GI Bill successfully (at best they'll dump it into a meme for profit corporate school and end up worse off).

>>64132335
Innovation never hurt anybody mr anon
>link
Theres a fine line here, I fully understand the argument FOR & AGAINST integrating private companies into your structure. I am in the agreeance that if your own countries companies are wanting to mingle with your military it isnt a bad thing
>>64132343
>discipline
this only works for retards. always question and bush the boundries mr anon

>>64132331
Likelihood that the underaged prostitutes were other enlisteds fucked up kids? Enlisted kids are never normal.

>>64132342
Just like you

Armed with water bottles, unaware of surroundings.

>>64132799
What should they be aware of, Mr militiaman?

>>64132358
70-90% chance these monsters were trafficking their own kids

>>64132973
>>64132799
>>64132358
>>64132342
>>64132331

Do you wear your own civilian prescription eyeglasses or do they issue you one for free prior to basic? I wonder if I should see my eye doctor and get checked up so if they do issue me a new pair of eyeglasses they can just look it up on the system or do they check your eyes right then and there?

>>64132799
they're national guard retard. They are literally members of the community

>>64133642
You got a toilet to clean with that fucking mouth? Whatever.

>>64133642
You have to forgive him, he clearly sequesters himself from the general populace so he can daydream about being the Unabomber or whatever in peace.

>>64133642
>>64133646
>>64133654
KEK

>>64133611
Speaking for Air Force in 2019, you show up with your civilian glasses, then a few days in you get your eyes tested and they issue you mildly unstylish* prescription glasses. There was a dude in my flight who had some ultra-niche lenses or something, I never got the fully story, but anyway whoever made the glasses/lenses kept fucking it up for him so eventually they just let him wear his civilian glasses the whole time. I assume that's an oddity.

*When I say unstylish I mean solidly 5/10 generic glasses, I expected mush worse honestly.

>>64132799
Speaking of glasses, lmao at back left's Pit Vipers or whatever. Based.

I asked this the other day, but I'm looking for direct experience with the program if anyone has it:
Anyone got the scoop on the Veteran Readiness and Employment (VR&E)? Can it be used while I'm working? I qualify, but I was thinking about using it before touching the GI bill.

>score 92 on asvab
>Choose infantry because post-9/11 patriotic fervor
>decide to quit antidepressants cold turkey before boot camp
>Promptly have a breakdown, get booted out after a short stay in a mental ward
>Cringe about this every single day of my life since then
Ft. Benning was nice though.

>>64136663
What were you on? And how long were you off those meds? Assuming you're not just trying to be funny.

>Sign up for military
>Debate what to do with my drug stash (mostly psychedelics, but literally a decade's worth for a single person)
>Friend I sell to is going off to college
>ehh, fuck it
>Give him my drug stash the week before I ship out
>"Don't have too much fun with those ahahaha"
>Meet up with him after I separate
>Ask him if he still has any of those drugs, LSD and a hike sounds great
>"nah I threw them out"
>"...the fuck you mean you threw them out?"
>"Oh well, uhh, you know, I mean uhh I sold the acid, but no one wanted to buy the other stuff, so uhh I threw the rest of it away"

>>64136663
>antidepressants
how did they even let you in

>>64140069
Didn't tell them of course. Young and dumb.

>>64132342
>>64132799
Why is every fucking Army soldier an E4?

>>64140714
Just like how every Marine is E3 and every Sailor is E5, that's where you end up at the end of a 4 year contract

>>64136647
VR&E will help with employment as their primary mission, they will work with you to match you up with an ideal job but not a dream job. You also have to have a service connected disability to be considered. If you do qualify, and match the skills, they can offer you self employment help if you desire that.

>>64137441
>literal drug dealer
On your way to join the Fort Bragg Cartel?

>>64140246
>Didn't tell them of course. Young and dumb.
I'm assuming this was pre-genesis, right?

>>64142309
I don't know what that is. This was '03.

Quitter

Kindof tempted to tell a close friend of mine I started self harming. I liked it. Im enlisted. Dumb idea, right? Theyre also enlisted.

Are there any guys here who have retrained for a different MOS and gone to the SMCR after their first round as an officer in the USMC?

I've been out since 2023. I want to go back and I want a fair shot at being an 0302. I got fucked for being injured in 2019 at IOC. I spoke with a PSR at an IRR muster a few months ago, he said I would get sent to IULC and not IOC? Is that true? I kind of want to go to IOC and I want redemption.

Billets shift all the time but I want to pick up a platoon commander billet with 2/23 in Las Vegas or maybe go to LAR as a platoon commander or XO. I'm a fairly junior captain minus my IRR time, I had a long stint as a 1stLt just because of my TBS class and commission date.

>>64144896
To do what?

>Army bulges at E-4
>Navy bulges at E-5
>Marines bulges at E-3
>Air Force bulges at E-4 (with E-5 close)
>Space Force bulges at O-3
Why do the Marines hate promoting people?

Explain this chair force fags
>Annual 2 mile run
>Annual
>Run

>>64144406
Ah, makes sense. This Genesis system basically looks up every medical record that's on you.

>>64146132
The only promotion you need is another contract in our beloved Corps, devil dog. Can I get an oorah?

How long did it take you to make captain?

>>64130593
why would you go infantry in peacetime?

>>64146132
damn the space force is small

>>64146132
how the fuck is the marine corp only half as small as the army

>>64148286
NTA but if you do join as infantryman you can ask to get deployed in a combat zone right? If so, which places are currently deploying soldiers?

>>64148737
>deployed in a combat zone right
There are no current large scale active combat zones that you can deploy to. Most deployments are for joint international training exercises
>which places are currently deploying soldiers
Natty guard and some army units to the border. It's not a combat deployment.

>>64148142
isnt it automatic at 4.0 years?

>>64148296
>174,000 is half of 461,000

>>64148737
Not really. There are individual deployments where you augment another unit but they are never for just regular line combat arms. It's more like if a unit needs one or two people in a specific unique billet.
Right now the only infantry deployments are maybe to Syria, Iraq, or Africa. Emphasis on maybe. It's a handful of people per location outside of SOF and shit.

>tfw ywn help grow / traffic heroin in / from Afghanistan
At least there's hope for Venezuela.

>>64150761
Doesn't mean everyone in the USA is ok with that fact. Both are so stupid.. America.. And South America producing any drug is fucking dumb and it needs to stop. Now.

>>64130570 (OP)
Sup /k/, I just heard that this thread exists. Is it true that the site/jannies get paid to keep it up and that they ban anyone who tells the thread to not join the military?

>>64150761
>Conveniently leaves out that most of the opium trade was controlled by the Taliban

>>64153096
...so you're not denying it?

>>64153096
Except if that were the case, they opium trade would still be flourishing there. In reality, the Taliban destroyed the entire opium industry in Afghanistan.

What rates get to wear the G-1?
How hard is it to be an Aircrewman? I think romping around in a helicopter and wearing a leather jacket would be sick.
Also, I'm a priorserved, but I'd definitely have to work out before enlisting again.

>>64153468
>Except if that were the case, they opium trade would still be flourishing there
>They stopped selling opium so that means they never did it in the first place

>>64153468
Anon please tell me how you think the Taliban made it's money? Did they go around the countryside asking for donations? Did the money magically materialize outside their homes?

>>64153588
https://globalinitiative.net/analysis/afghanistans-illicit-drug-economy-after-the-opium-ban/
>While opium poppy cultivation in Afghanistan did not cease completely after the ban, the market was severely disrupted. By pressuring farmers to stop growing opium poppy and carrying out a targeted eradication campaign, the Taliban succeeded in drastically reducing cultivation. The change was particularly apparent in the south-western provinces, which had previously been the heart of opium farming. The drop in cultivation caused prices to soar.

>>64153718
>But muh ban
The ban happened they gained controlled of the government. Before when they were fighting against the Republic they were heavily involved with the drug trade and made most of their money through opium.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09592318.2024.2381847?scroll=top&needAccess=true#abstract

>>64153718
>But muh ban
The ban happened after they gained control of the government. Before when they were fighting against the Republic they were heavily involved with the drug trade and made most of their money through opium
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09592318.2024.2381847?scroll=top&needAccess=true#d1e141

I ship out in January. Should I go ahead and get PRK now or should I wait until I'm actually in the military?
What about cosmetic surgery to fix my disgusting acne scars?

>>64148142
Technically I'm guaranteed O-3 at 4 years and I've hardly done shit for service so far

Btw anchor post for anyone interested in getting med school, dental school, vet school paid for by the military. I'm army but can try to answer other branch questions.

Short story:
>get accepted to school of choice
>$2750/mo stipend, school is free
>signing bonus up to $20k depending on school type
>serve 45 days active duty/year, can do this at school some years just getting active duty pay to do whatever you normally do
>report to nobody most of the time, just focus on school
>serve a few years depending on your school of choice, in the case of medicine it can be a while if you pick a long residency like ortho or neurosurgery
>active duty time and residency count towards retirement years

Tl;dr
Results may vary, works for some.

>>64154142
Should state:

>YOU MUST ALREADY HAVE AN ACCEPTANCE to your school of choice
>Technically you apply for the scholarship, it is very hard to be rejected if you have no DQs and get accepted to a school

>>64153772
>dude it's totally just a coincidence that opium production was practically non-existent before the invasion and has been heavily reduced since the end of the occupation
kek, nobody believes your obvious propaganda lines

>>64154273
>ISIS sells drugs
>Hezbollah sells drugs
>During Assad's reign Syria was responsible for 80% of the world's Captagon supply
>But the wholesome Taliban would never do it because they just wouldn't ok they just had Gofundme

>>64154357
ISIS is a CIA / Mossad strategy of tension Gladio 2.0 cutout; of course they run drugs.

how lucky do you have to be to get stationed at Camp Zama?

>>64154831
Very. Some people spend their entire careers trying to get stationed there for one tour.

>>64132354
'push the boundaries'

you're gonna get raped

>>64154831
I don't know, but when I was in tech school, two dudes got Camp Zama for their first base. One of them was a weeb and he was fucking ecstatic. But that was before I had ever heard of it, so all I knew about it was "Camp", i.e. Army (or maybe Marine), so I was like man this guy's strangely excited to get an Army base. Then I looked it up and I was like oh shit lol that makes sense.

>>64154831
88ks only get stationed in Hawaii, Virginia and japan(camp zama)
so i feel like it has one of highest chances of ending of there

>>64154417
Why are you obsessed with talking about drug trafficking? What point are you even trying to make?

>>64155541
I just think it's funny that our military is an international drug trafficking organization.

>>64155541
Pablo's mad that Lil Donnie is going to take his RuneScape gold
https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-destroyers-maduro-drug-cartels-e33794ebc24d9031e536d132ce205b4c

>>64155651
You sound upset

>>64156606
He has been for like a decade at this point

>>64154831
>how lucky do you have to be to get stationed at Camp Zama?
Speaking of getting your duty stations, where do you usually go as an 11B?

>>64155039
>>64155104
>>64155115
>>64156918
How good are my odds at getting in as a 35T?

>>64156251
>>64156606
kek, like I said, the whole situation is funny. lighten up; this is a comedy website.

What an MOS where I can do le coolguy shit, but won’t hate my life 99% of the time? I was originally thinking infantry, but it seems the consensus is that would be a huge mistake. I intend to make a career out of it if that matters.

>>64158394
Define "coolguy shit"

>>64158415
Like Arma irl

>>64158394
Coolguy shit requires you to hate your life. There is nothing cool about being a POG. Don't know what to tell you.

>>64149217
>infantry
enjoy hatIng your life for 4 years instead of doing a job that wIll give you a career when you get out instead of fucked up knees for life. no cib=pog

>>64158800
>instead of fucked up knees for life.
VA money my nigga

>>64158800
>doing a job that wIll give you a career when you get out
This is a meme

Best Army MOS to make a 20 year career out of?

>>64158890
Maybe for you and your asvab score

>>64158899
19A or 11FXF if you want a real answer

>>64158912
I should’ve specified enlisted MOS

>>64158904
>le Asvab score
So many of you midwits think you’re special because they got a 90+ on your Asvab. If someone scores less than 90 on the Asvab I’m going to automatically assume they’re retarded. Asvab scores don’t mean shit and military experience won’t translate to a civillian career in 99% of cases.

>>64158927
That’s complete horseshit and you know it. That only happens if you don’t have a plan and act like an idiot

>>64158955
You’re either a recroooter or a neverserved. Probably the latter. If you’d actually served and had friends that served too, you’d know employers don’t give a shit about military experience. You will not get a good job unless you go to college or trade school.

>>64158890
There is no other logical reason to join the military in 2025

>>64158967
It’s almost like you can get an associates degree immediately from your mod school and finish you bachelors within 4 years. It’s not my fault if you don’t know how to game the system .

Furthermore grade school is an actual meme and completely useless outside of landing you a minimum wage job in a sweatshop filled with Mexicans

>>64158976
Cool, so you admit the military experience had nothing to do with getting a good job, but rather it was getting a college degree. I’m glad we can agree.

>>64158998
No if you get a security clearance, which you will if you picks. Good job then it will matter. How do you not know this? What a passive aggressive low test comment .

>>64158431
Probably like a forward observer of some kind he was along with my platoon and he chilled but got to do some cool stuff while avoiding a lot of bullshit…but in the usmc you can’t sighn up for a specific job and now the army does the same thing but you can’t sighn pick your specific field for example 13u or 19u and you find out what your mos is at basic now where as the usmc just says infantry field or combat support field then the rest of the boring mos

>>64158899
>enlisted cuck
Anything 35 series
>officer
Anything

ANG pilot AMA.

>>64159458
lol wtf

>>64157742
Limited, you're 1) a small MOS so fewer slots across the Army and 2) looking at a small base with, again, fewer slots needed and 3) looking at a location that every intel nigga ever wants to go to.
Don't let me discourage you, if it comes up as a reenlistment option jump on it, but know the odds.
>>64158394
What would that even look like? Do you know what you're asking for?
"ARMA irl" = combat arms. Promotion opportunities are better since the career fields are bigger and have more cultural inertia than other parts of the Army. Flip side is you will be outside in the cold/the heat/bad weather/etc a lot as that is literally the entire point of the job. Whether you will "hate your life" really depends on you.
As someone who was 11b before and is now 35 series, I'll say that you really just have to not be a bitch to enjoy combat arms. You'll be tired and carry heavy stuff and get dirty and cold and whatever, but all that stuff is secondary to your mission of killing bad guys and breaking their shit or training to do so. If you're the kind of person who's gonna, like, take personal offense to the concept of getting dirty and wet or having to go without sleep or whatever, pick something else - you'll make a shitty Joe, become an NCO that values his own comfort above other things, and generally make things worse for everyone.
There are le coolguy programs for some career fields, to include combat arms and intel, but guess what, all of them include a very heavy dose of the same shit - heavy rucks for long distances, austere conditions, long hours, not being a bitch, etc., not to mention they're generally only open to experienced NCOs and above.

>>64158394
>words
Peacetime = lack of purpose = will not cure the blue balls

>>64159458
kino

How do you respond?

>>64159743
Or he could wean himself off of daddy government's teet if he actually wants to see combat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts

>>64158967
What branch were you in?

>>64158968
>There is no other logical reason to join the military in 2025
If you have no other options the military is the way to go. And oh, being a badass.

>>64160763
You can’t be a badass without a cib. You’re just a fat fuck in an ugly uniform that no one under the age of 40 respects

>>64130570 (OP)
Tabbed anons:

>What is your tab?

>How hard was it to get?

>What is the best train up?

>>64160955
>You can’t be a badass without a cib
Dude it's 2025, there are almost no deployments anymore. This is the kind of attitude I expect from a trainee or fresh boot who doesn't understand how deployments even work or why you can't just go to combat whenever you want.
It's also telling that you believe civilians know anything about specific badges or respect service members based on them. Maybe 5% of them do, but the rest don't know an intel weenie from a Delta operator. It, again, makes you come off as a clueless boot projecting his ideas about service and deployments onto the wider population.

>>64161158
thats a whole lot of cope

>>64161158
>Dude it's 2025, there are almost no deployments anymore
which is why you cant claim be a badass . you're a glorified janitor

>>64161168
This all circles back to why going combat arms is turbo retarded and it is better to choose a more technical role

>While there is no prominent historical figure who served as a conventional infantryman and then became a submarine captain, such a career path could theoretically exist in the modern U.S. military

The enlisted to officer jump in a different service isn't uncommon. A submarine captain is unironically one of the most dangerous human beings on Earth, who could unleash levels of violence a single infantryman could only hope for.

>>64161238
It again depends on your goals. If you want to make SGM one day, infantry is the career field with the highest chances of getting you there. It's still not easy or guaranteed but it's way easier than a tiny MOS with few billets at any grade above E-5 or something. That said it's definitely not required and I wouldn't tell someone they had to go infantry to make 20 or make SGM.
>>64161168
>>64161161
Don't like it? Don't join. The kind of person who sees having a CIB as the only marker of legitimacy in combat arms is the kind of person who will endlessly complain about having to do training, or get in trouble because he perceives himself as deserving that marker of legitimacy and gets angry when it doesn't materialize. It's like people who join on 18x contracts, fail SFAS, and spend their time at the 82nd doing nothing much, half the time they crash out and get in trouble because in their minds they deserved to be SF and doing regular infantryman stuff is beneath them. In both cases you come in with this fantasy version of your career already planned out and can't deal with reality.
Like I said before, an infantryman's lot in life is to spend large amounts of time training in poor weather, on little sleep, carrying heavy weights, with no guarantee that he will get to actually fight anyone. It's been that way since Roman times. Go in expecting Hollywood action and instant deployments and you'll bitch and moan your entire contract long. Go in caring about being ready in case you're needed and caring about making sure your organization can face future threats, and you'll barely care about something as insignificant as the weather or as beyond your control as whether you deploy or not.
Badass? Who gives a shit?

>>64161492
lol this dude is so mad

>>64161492
>Badass? Who gives a shit?
you apparently

>>64131088
Headed to boot camp next month in New Jersey, can't fuggin wait to be a non rate for the bonus and eventually go BM so I can drive a boat
>T. 27 year old 99 ASVAB with a degree who just doesn't care anymore. >>64161257
That sounds cool maybe I'll do that one day

Quick run down on military-coded products?
https://youtu.be/wgj3U5JhGcc?t=436

Come on, you at least buy it ironically to show how funny you are to you bros.

>>64161862
Sam Hyde raped an underaged girl. You should not be watching his content if this fact concerns you.

>>64161961
He would fit right in among the military lol

shut up /meg/

>>64160968
You mirin', /k/?

>>64162411
Tattling on yourself, eh?

How fat can I be to go to Army fat camp? I'm currently 5'11 245lbs.

>>64161515
Excellent choice, anon
I know for a fact that right out of the gate, they wreck you. It rivals Marine boot camp in intensity.

>>64162490
No, I've never been a fan of pedophiles like the US military / Sam Hyde

Reminder that there are people in this thread who regularly use ChatGPT and actually trust what it says lmao

>>64162913
Thanks anon. I'm looking forward to it.
>>64159478
What is being a pilot like? Do you recommend it? I'm really not sure I want that responsibility one day even though everyone tells me that's what I should get into down the road.

>>64164066
Why do you want to join the military? You just really love Israel and the banks and want to serve them?

>>64164072
I'm joining the Coast guard hoping to save American lives. If that means I'm just protecting the goy cattle farm so be it.

>>64164080
Rescue divers and pilots are based. The drug busts are hilarious and ironic because you'll never be taking down the biggest smugglers since those guys are on US government payroll; all you'll be doing is taking out the big guys' competition.

>>64164054
So why are you watching his videos?

>>64164129
Where did I say I was?

>>64130570 (OP)
Do we have swear allegiance to Israel?

>>64164224
Yes.

>>64164066
>What is being a pilot like?
Depends, in most branches it's a little different than being a non-rated officer with respect to expectations and the amount of responsibility you have. Fleet nuggets aren't expected to do much except study and get good at their job, with some bs make-work tasks like stocking the snack-bar or using CD-ROMs to install security updates on old computers. Strong swimmers will get assigned as the division officer for a maintenance or admin shop. There is a pretty well defined career path for pilots no matter what branch you choose, and you can generally predict your trajectory after the first tour. Going to the ANG was a welcome change, in a traditional status I don't do jack shit but show up a few times a month and fly. Being a pilot itself is awesome at first, then the novelty wears off and it's just a job. There are still awesome days I wouldn't trade.

>Do you recommend it?
Only if you can't find something better to do. For me, it was a way out of mediocrity. Becoming a military officer is probably one of the surest and most attainable ways to raise yourself out of the lower middle class.

For pilots, it's
>ANG
>USCG
>USN
>USAF/Reserves
>USMC*
>Power Gap
>Army NG
>Army
in that order. Avoid the USMC unless you are one of those guys who just has to be USMC, then it's number 1 and enjoy being a moto-retard.

>>64154831
I got even luckier than that:
>Hardy Barracks
>tfw 13F
>tfw someone fucked up and coded me as 18F
>tfw get orders to the Office of Naval Research
>tfw
>mfw

>>64164386
tfw all I got was a bunch of mold and tape at Fort Hood

>>64164386
>>64164401
rape*

>Applicant has been married and divorced five times.
>She had no children with
Husband #1 (1998 to 1999) or Husband #3 (2008 to 2009). Husband #2 (2001 to 2007)
fathered her three oldest children; Husband #4 (2012 to 2016) her 14-year old child; and
Husband #5 (2018 to 2022) her five-year old child. She never married her 16-year old
child’s father.

Marine anons, why can't you live normal lives?
https://doha.ogc.osd.mil/Industrial-Security-Program/Industrial-Security-Clearance-Decisions/ISCR-Hearing-Decisions/2025-ISCR-Hearing-Decisions/FileId/233662/

>>64164486
If they could live normal lives, then they wouldn't have become Marines.

>>64164085
>CG Rescue divers
Watch The Guardian 2006. The whole movie is about CG Rescue divers

>>64164551
it stars the cp guy right?

>>64164568
Kevin Costner has CP?

>>64164590
Ashton Kutcher

>>64164134
Either you're >>64161862 or you're butting into a conversation that you weren't a part of. Equally detestable either way.

>>64164728
>no you can't reply to my posts only the person I'm replying to is allowed to do that!
kek, pathetic display kiddo

Saw this and felt compared to share

>>64164748
Thanks for confirming pal

>>64164877
see
>>64164748
>>no you can't reply to my posts only the person I'm replying to is allowed to do that!
>kek, pathetic display kiddo

>>64164906
Do you often let randoms upset you this much, or are you just having a really bad day?

>>64164943
>protecting this hard
kek

>>64164943
>>64165036
projecting*

>>64165036
>>64165043
I'm random, but you seem to think this general is your domain. Thank you again for confirming your impotent rage because I trash talked your e-daddy Samuel "Child Rapist" Hydenstein

Not military per se, but I've decided to look into getting my Merchant Mariner Credential and all the associated training to go work on a boat.

Since I keep hearing about US Sealift stuff in shipping related news I figured I'd see if this thread has any glowies who can give me a quick rundown on doing the merchant mariner thing on an oiler or other civilian-military ship- what certs are needed, how the pay is, etc.

Currently I was looking into working for one of the various tugboat companies in the greater Seattle area since it seems that tugs are going to be the easiest way for me to just get my feet wet and start accumulating sea hours, but is this something I should go visit, say, a Navy recruiter to chat about? Or is that just going to be annoying some Navy recruiter and wasting his time?

(Also, I wouldn't be able to join the navy regardless because I'm a certified old fuck in my mid 30s, so civilian sealift is the second best option.)

>>64165342
A navy recruiter will only give you information about joining the navy and will only give a shit about trying to get you to enlist in the navy. Look on usajobs for sealift command/merchant mariner jobs or do some research on which companies contract that kind of work to TRANSCOM and see if they have any postings in your area.

>be me
>at dli
>rarely interact with anyone whose not a dli student or a teacher
>interact with someone from a different career field
>they need to say something like 20 times to remember it
>need to do something like 50 times to learn how to do it
have i been living in a bubble? is it true that the rest of the enlisted service is retarded?

>>64165565
You chose.

>>64165565
they didnt choose to have shit memory anon
im sure if they could have better memory they would chose to do so

>>64165565
Got any proof you're at DLI? You know why I'm asking

>>64165071
I've thought Sam Hyde and his fans were fags for over a decade lol

>>64164728
Do you think you’re on telegram and not an anonymous image board? You have no expectation of privacy

>>64165732
>>64165807
>trying to play off that he is still upset
Buddy, you're making it too easy. I know this is all about Schmuel Hydenberg because you, like all of his other paid shills, can't just walk away. Want to talk about his Peter Thiel funding as well while you're here?

>>64165940
>>64165807
>>64165732
>>64165071
>>64165043
>>64165036
>>64164943
>>64164906


Is this the military enlistment general, or am I in the wrong place?

>>64165940
You're responding to two different people lol

>>64165982
It's just the usual obsessed schizos wasting their weekend away. Ignore them for the sake of your sanity.

>>64131371
Let’s be honest, the military upper echelons and many of the enlisted aren’t properly educated about proper fitness. Youth helps with the physical dredge but it’s not the ultimate solution to survival in the military.

Just match the fitness standards and exceed it if possible.

>>64166306
True, good enough is good enough

>>64165342
>Also, I wouldn't be able to join the navy regardless because I'm a certified old fuck in my mid 30s
Navy caps at 40.

>>64168337
Can I sign up, do absolutely nothing, and get some kind of gibs out of it? Working for the MIC is gay, but I like the idea of defrauding the government.

Are American PMCs like in the early 2000s still a thing? If so, what would be the best course of action to take in the military to land a high paying gig afterwords?

>>64168501
Yes. Right now a lot of them are deployed to the "humanitarian aid" lines in Gaza, where their job is to fire on unarmed civilians who are trying to avoid starvation.

>>64168501
>>64168508
You don't even need to have military experience to sign up lol. If your desire is to murder foreigners, then at this point you're better off joining a PMC than the US military. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

>last semester in college decide I want to enlist in NG for law school money, maybe direct commission as JAG afterwards


>got through meps and all that, signed contract, basic date is in the air though because I have a “deferment” so I can finish my last semester, had to submit a school letter or whatever


>wait all summer, occasionally reach out to recruiter, dude ghosts me after a certain point, was RSPing until I was told I was moving units and then nothing


>recruiter calls me on Friday and says I’m getting entry level separated because there’s no way for me to get to/through basic before some deadline

Wtf? What now? Obviously I’m going to talk to a different recruiter with my questions because fuck that dude, but will this follow me and fuck me if I try to enlist/direct commission as jag? I haven’t taken a job all summer and delayed law school to next year because I expected to be gone for 14-18 weeks.

>>64169010
How many credit hours do you currently have? Do you have your bachelor's degree and are going into a masters or do you still have credits left on a bachelor's degree?

>>64169010
I guess they're really jagging you around lol

>>64169035
Graduated with my bachelors in May, I signed the contract in maybe like January? I'd have to look but it was early in my last semester

>>64169100
You can try other branches, Navy might be accepting but Air Force needs JAGs too. I know the Navy had a program to onboard you during your law school and direct commission you after you graduate. Unlike NG and Army for both of those branches you need a dedicated Officer recruiter though so be weary of that

>>64130570 (OP)
If you're a non-citizen (Canuck) can you join the US armed forces? Can you get a green card or even citizenship for joining?

>>64169473
fuck off we're full

>>64169473
Need the green card first

>>64168525
Crazy because the dude that haunts these threads was kicked out of the Army because he said he wanted to indiscriminately kill all Muslims, but instead of signing up to live out his dream, he is still going to sit here and bitch about not being able to do it whilst wearing an American flag patch on his shoulder.

>>64169505
I'm well aware of Dirlewangerfag and his alter-ego Texas Nasty Girl. He's a very funny character.

>>64169476
About to be fuller

>lies for literally no reason
What creates such a person? Does everyone turn into this when they leave?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytXeQ3diuV4

>>64170315
Grifters gonna grift. People like this grew up with far higher expectations of military service, thinking it was some higher purpose, rather than understanding that it's just another job

>>64170797
If it's just another job, then why do you have such contempt for people who were never in the military?

>>64170797
no shrek did not think it was a high purpose at all and never claimed to be anything but a hiRED killer.

>>64170814
Who hurt you?

>>64170900
not an answer

>>64171007
Are you the same guy that got upset when I shat on Sammy the other day? Hard to believe more than one person in this thread is such a big baby

>>64161492
>Don't like it? Don't join.
*cracks beer*

THAT'S RIGHT BROTHER! they don't teach em like they used tah

>>64170315
he did lie but he didn't lie about being in special forces. he was in doing all the missions he said he did, he just never brought up the fact that he got kicked out for cheating on his wife with another military member

>>64171547
He did a lot more than that to get kicked out.
If he's lying about that, what else is he lying about? Can't trust pathological liars and grifters.

>>64171163
I'm the guy who agreed that Sam Hyde is a pedophile, which is why he would fit among the US military.

>>64171669
>Can't trust pathological liars
Which is why I would never trust a soldier, sailor, marine, or airman.

>>64172435
Guardians and Coasties are cool though

>>64172542
Some of them.

>>64172431
>>64172435
So do you just come here to get upset, or is there a higher calling for you?

>>64172608
I come here to laugh and have fun lol. That's the entire reason 4chan exists, and the only reason to use it. Right now I'm waiting at the doctor with my brother. How's your morning going?

>>64172617
>admits to being a phoneposter
It's all making sense now. Newfags gonna newfag

>>64172630
>nooo you can't use 4chan outside of the house!!!!!!
I've been on this site since 2006 lol. Anyway, you never told me how your morning's going, buddy.

>>64172637
>I've been on this site since 2006
You're too old to join the military then. Sorry to deliver the bad news.

>>64172637
>been here seething for 2 decades
grim

>>64172674
I'm 33, but I have no interest in ever joining the military so it's irrelevant.
>>64172677
I'm having fun, and I've only been in /k/ for 5 years, when I started buying guns.

>>64172677
>>64172694
on* /k/

>>64172694
>no interest in joining the military
>has come to the thread dedicated to providing information about the military 3 straight days in a row
>phoneposter
>claims to be an oldfag

Not really selling yourself here, pal.

>>64172832
Selling myself to whom? For what purpose? I'm having fun, and that's all that matters. You're having fun too, right? I hope so. : )

>>64172852
What fun are you having?

>>64172871
It is amusing to read and reply to posts. Why are you spending every day on a comedy website if you don't agree with that sentiment?

>>64172913
Would your amusement remain the same regardless of whether people responded to you or not?

>>64172975
Yes. I'm most amused by my own posts.

I’ll be 24 when I ship out for the Army. Will the 18 year olds call me “unc”?

>>64174420
No

>>64174420
No one cares. Focus on you, dummy.

>>64174420
Tell your wife I said hi.

>single guy raped an entire barracks for 18 months straight
How'd he do it bros?
https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2025-08-26/fort-hood-predator-barracks-18887308.html

How hard is it to go through Aircrew Candidate School?
What's it like to be an AWF?

What's the tactical advantage conferred by wearing a high visibility jacket over camouflage?

>>64176114
No Democratic Party President ever made the NG embarrass themselves like this.

>stats
25 brat with a degree in computer engineering, no debt, and pretty fit to meet standards (5'10", 170,). 96 asvab and surprisingly not autistic nor a furry like my cohort

>reasons
market sucks and want job security (243:4 ratio for application to interviews, couldn't turn an internship into a job and seems like it got outsourced lmao). want independence since moving back in. Feeling stuck in the middle of nowhere America again.

>wants not in any order
foreign gf that's not gonna cheat because she was bored, not stateside but if not coast preferably, tolerable hours, overseas right off hopefully, pivot to anything else

>options im considered
>AF, Navy, or Army officer
>35 using option 19 contract to get korea and extendmaxx there
>CG and hope for PATFORSWA
>still open to know what I missed but the comfy contracts are indeed drying up

>Why I didn't do join yet
>Heard most of AF's personnel is mostly stationed stateside. Even if this is the most pushed option and don't want to waste my next years somewhere eh even if I'm treated the best comparatively
>Army: the possibility of being stationed in the most ghetto base I ever witnessed.

if anybody could share some thoughts that would be appreciated.

>>64130570 (OP)
Holy fuck ive never visited one of these threads before and was almost shilled into enlisting as a nuke in the navy.

>>64176447
Conveniently forgetting Biden's inauguration where he mobilized an NG unit just to keep people away from the ceremony?

>>64178663
88k only on the coast :)

>>64179051
remember why that was the case?
maybe there was a big event that happened only a few weeks before?

>>64179095
Yeah that was after he rigged an election and had a successful coup

>>64179153
>he's just retarded
damn

Thinking of doing Infantry for 20 years because I have nothing better to do in life and it sounds interesting at least. It this feasible?

>>64176114
>>64176447
>the other branches are learning how to work for a living
OHHH NOOOO

>>64179289
how about you join the army before thinking you can do 20

>>64179500
>how about you go fly the plane before building it

>>64179517
No more like why don’t you do a discovery flight before deciding you want to be a pilot

>>64179500
>just do things will no plan for the future
Maybe that’s how you live your life, but I like to have a goal in mind.

>>64179530
More like, why don't you sign a 4 year flight school commitment before doing a discovery flight

>>64179539
just saying, if you go in with doing 20 years in mind as inf
the chance of you actually doing that is like 5 percent

>>64131371
just take some hgh and do a sarms and peptides cycle with on cycle support a few times and then do post cycle therapy and u will be good

>>64179939
>taking steroids just to train to be a slightly older POG
A couple months of a basic gym routine and a diet that includes chicken breast is enough.

Just as OP said, remember to LIE about your medical issues
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/08/27/veteran-stole-244k-disability-then-faked-drowning-death-maine-feds-say.html

Its the taxpayers problem not yours. Show those civvies who is boss.

>>64180390
I think they meant before, not after, anon

>For a 32 year old (fit) male with a degree (hons) that they never really utilized, would I be stupid to try to get in as an officer?
Shitposter, basically I've been average my whole life, drifting between shit job to shit job. Never really utilized my degree and it's been 5 years since I finished.

Just had my latest major setback and it's either a) go back to study, b) grind in a average job making slightly more than minimum wage for 2-3 years or c) join the ADF as an officer candidate and hope for the best.

I'm hoping that the better than average pay, subsidized living and benefits (ie defence home loan) will mitigate the period of service in which I lose, my life I guess. I am looking at it to get paid to study, and walk out 5-6 years later with a qualification. Should I consider other options?

>>64179941
Zoomies are always scouring the internet for shortcuts.

>>64130570 (OP)
hi. i am currently debating between army rotc or ocs. my endgoal is jag and i could graduate at the end of this academic year (3 years of college total), or extend my graduation by a year (dual degree likely), and continue rotc.
basically, what im wondering is if it is worth it to extend my graduation by a year or to graduate early and apply to ocs.
my end goal is to join the jag corps in any branch and if i do not extend my graduation i have my lsat already taken and would begin law school in the fall of next year, and apply 1L and 2L for OCS in every branch.
any advice would be great or any anons who know more about how competitive or selective JAG OCS boards are as compared to Education Delay for AROTC, or if its even worth it. thanks