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Anonymous No.64138669 >>64138701 >>64138733 >>64138751 >>64138762 >>64138767 >>64138775 >>64138805 >>64138857 >>64138929 >>64138967 >>64139182 >>64139200 >>64139290
What the hell is going on?
Anonymous No.64138689 >>64138860
Americans and Russians will jointly patrol the demilitirized zone.
Anonymous No.64138694
>it didn't explode
:/
Anonymous No.64138696 >>64138708
The last orphans in Donbabwe being evacuated in the style of Children of Men.
Anonymous No.64138701 >>64138711
>>64138669 (OP)
America has knelt to its Russian superiors.
Anonymous No.64138708 >>64138771
>>64138696
>Children of Men was set in 2027
Man the passage of time is a real fucker
Anonymous No.64138711 >>64138719 >>64138744
>>64138701
So can we buy their guns and ammo again yet?
Anonymous No.64138719
>>64138711
Soon
Anonymous No.64138733
>>64138669 (OP)
Honestly, no fucking idea. Trump is still on his Biden Bad dementia tick. He also still thinks that Russia can be reasoned with and has a net better advantage than arming Ukraine (even though that point has become more popular with the retards who voted him in.) Lots of bullshit promises and political dick waving. No more American subsideized TZD, but Euros seem to be getting the message and are probably going to step up a bit more.
Kinda boring desu, but anything to distract from the Epstein List.
7/10 Flood the Zone move.
Anonymous No.64138744 >>64138764 >>64139117
>>64138711
No. But ziggers will soon be able to buy yours
Anonymous No.64138751 >>64139189 >>64139269 >>64139301
>>64138669 (OP)
orange pedo is on team Z now. Stop asking about the list, btw >:(
Anonymous No.64138762 >>64139269
>>64138669 (OP)
Trump wanting to see how much and how fast he can humiliate America
Anonymous No.64138764 >>64138807 >>64139122
>>64138744
>implying puccians have money at all
Anonymous No.64138767
>>64138669 (OP)
Demoralization tactics. "Putin visted the US so obviously it must be over for Ukraine" Not going to work but a US member of the ukr legion will get a neat new flag to take home when the tank gets blown up.
Anonymous No.64138771 >>64138783
>>64138708
Talking to a zoomer about 28 days later and was devastated to be reminded that film came out in 2002.
Anonymous No.64138775 >>64138778 >>64138785 >>64138861
>>64138669 (OP)
>ziggers are going to trick themselves into becoming an American ally after retreating from Ukraine
Anonymous No.64138778
>>64138775
the HIV in the US will skyrocket
Anonymous No.64138783
>>64138771
Man Danny Boyle really screwed the pooch by not waiting until 2030 to make the 3rd movie
Anonymous No.64138785 >>64138797 >>64138801 >>64138819
>>64138775
the us would be a better friend than china
Anonymous No.64138797
>>64138785
>Backstabs Russia after the next election cycle
Anonymous No.64138801
>>64138785
>on the one hand, old friend who has recently become increasingly erratic, senile, and insulting
>on the other hand, guaranteed turbojew but at least his policies are stable and long-term

tough choice
Anonymous No.64138805
>>64138669 (OP)
Is that a fucking mtlb??????
Anonymous No.64138807
>>64138764
I can imagine a deal involving trading guns for eggs
Anonymous No.64138819
>>64138785
The best thing Russia could do is replace its absolute rule by a man with absolute rule by law and cut security and investment deals with the West after agreeing to return Ukrainian territory.
Anonymous No.64138857 >>64139616
>>64138669 (OP)
>Russians are secretly admiring the Yankees, they really wish to behave themselves somewhat as Yankees behave in Iraq. To be bloody and careless masters of the universe. But now is not our best time. Yes, yes, biggest part of Russian anti-Americanism is made of envy and jealousy. Of jealousy and of envy.
-- Edward Limonov

https://youtu.be/mWGCZnVZxGI
Anonymous No.64138860 >>64138892 >>64139215
>>64138689
Probably the outcome most likely to happen, NATO troops acting as tripwires for the next 5 years while the incredibly tough demining and UXO disposal job is done by NGOs and the UN. Russia sure as shit isn't gonna clean up the mess.

There's also the topic of repopulation and reconstruction of towns, and trying to sort out who owns what land now, because the bombed out fields probably had all their divisions erased. Agricultural and industrial outputs are gonna need to happen first so the contested regions can recover, so power and basic services need to be reestablished too.
Anonymous No.64138861 >>64138873 >>64138938
>>64138775
Anonymous No.64138873 >>64138884
>>64138861
https://youtu.be/Vq2EkmTx_ds
Anonymous No.64138884 >>64138910
>>64138873
>every single one is ugly
bros wtf i thought you told me that russian bitches are good looking at the very least?
Anonymous No.64138892
>>64138860
de-mining will only be a problem in buildup areas and rough terrain.
all the rest can be done by triggering them and the unresponsive ones will get plowed up, collected and disposed of as time goes on
t-from a farming family around Ieper.
As for land ownership
I'm assuming they evacuated local archives from the front line cities and kept copies.
from there on out it's a matter of establishing the outlines of certain plots most likely those surveyed more recently with gps tags and then working out from those.
Anonymous No.64138910 >>64138933
>>64138884
Russian woman have resting bitch face because Russian woman are very bad, hate man, want to subjugate him, and have no moral principles. You must subjugate her or she will subjugate you. But on both occasions, you will lose.
Anonymous No.64138926
It's called doing some trolling.
Anonymous No.64138929
>>64138669 (OP)
propaganda for the summits
Anonymous No.64138933
>>64138910
>Russian woman have resting bitch face because
They're Russian and everyone in Russia looks at you like they're in mourning even if they like you
Anonymous No.64138938
>>64138861
Anonymous No.64138967 >>64138994 >>64139047 >>64139192 >>64139311 >>64139429 >>64139485
>>64138669 (OP)
I do wish we were actually allies with Russia.
Anonymous No.64138994 >>64139073
>>64138967
Your brown country probably already is.
Anonymous No.64139047 >>64139073 >>64139090
>>64138967
Why?
Anonymous No.64139073 >>64139086 >>64139108 >>64139115 >>64139126 >>64139238 >>64139246 >>64139480
>>64138994
I’m American (but you will never believe that)
>>64139047
I like Russian literature and history
Anonymous No.64139086 >>64139103
>>64139073
Why?
Anonymous No.64139090 >>64139108 >>64139110
>>64139047
Not him, but the we would probably all be better off if Russia was on Team West. This, of course, requires Russia to go through the Enlightenment and stop being a classic empire, something they have largely rejected since forever.
Anonymous No.64139103 >>64139142 >>64139150
>>64139086
It’s interesting
Anonymous No.64139108 >>64139129
>>64139073
If you're a student of their history you ought to understand why we shouldn't hitch our wagon to that horse.
>>64139090
I would say that about every country though. From China to Somalia to North Korea. That's not the same as "we should be allies with Russia"
Anonymous No.64139110
>>64139090
Thats a big if, but i would agree IF
Anonymous No.64139115
>>64139073
>I like Russian literature and history
if you're paying attention this should tell you exactly why you don't want to ally with Russia
Anonymous No.64139117
>>64138744
Ziggers can hardly buy any guns at all, and even if they could theit money isn't worth anything.
Anonymous No.64139122
>>64138764
They'll just take out a 30 year loan for a hi point
Anonymous No.64139126
>>64139073
>I like Russian literature and history
me too, but so what? I even have online russian gaming bros, but why would that drive geopolitical decisions?
Maybe in the long run if they become a normal country.
Anonymous No.64139129
>>64139108
tbf North Korea turning to Team West is also pretty great. It would take decades to get them up to speed with the South. The North would basically have to be pseudoimperial provinces of the South until agreed upon development targets were reached, but I think we can all agree it would be a very good thing.
Anonymous No.64139132
infowar operation, retards will see ukies blowing it up and say they are defacing the flag or some bs like that
Anonymous No.64139142 >>64139143
>>64139103
>history
>Russia
>interesting
sure thing hivan
Anonymous No.64139143
>>64139142
Nah, he's just a tankie youth
Anonymous No.64139150
>>64139103
Why?
Anonymous No.64139152 >>64139250
Ah, the Tambov pipeline is now kaput. That explains the ZigCon 1 we just had.
Anonymous No.64139182
>>64138669 (OP)
So is this an M113 or some Russian equivalent?
Anonymous No.64139189 >>64139213 >>64139301
>>64138751
The child fucker is supporting the Russians? Inconceivable.
Anonymous No.64139192
>>64138967
I wish the identity of 5th columnist trash like you were public record.
Anonymous No.64139200
>>64138669 (OP)
Russian propaganda is calling America a friend right now.
Anonymous No.64139213 >>64139259
>>64139189
>child fucker
but enough about Biden
Anonymous No.64139215
>>64138860
>sort out who owns what land now, because the bombed out fields probably had all their divisions erased
This is not 19th century. Not sure about Ukraine specifically but commonly European countries have their whole land register digitalised and coodinated to GPS (and other formats) as well as ortograpgic photo maps. You don't need landmarks anymore.
>t. EU civil engineer
Anonymous No.64139229 >>64139249 >>64139277 >>64139278 >>64139281 >>64139391 >>64139462
I still don't understand how the pro-Russia narratives got so widespread in the US. Guys I've known for years on shooting forums or whatever are fully "Did you know US biolabs and CIA overthrew Ukraine and NATO invading Europe and Biden money laundering? Did you know Russia are the last white Christians fighting against trannies and gays and immigration and liberals and the DNC and UN world control?"
Anonymous No.64139238
>>64139073
>I like Russian literature and history
if you actually read any of it, like gulag archipelago, ziggerstan is the last thing you want to be anywhere near of or associated with any way. You would know that if a turdie like (you) ever read anything
Anonymous No.64139246 >>64139292
>>64139073
>I like Russian literature and history
And how does that translate to current geopolitics you inberd mongoloid?
Anonymous No.64139249
>>64139229
Boomer radio, even the old timey country stations spout that shit
Anonymous No.64139250 >>64139479
>>64139152
How quickly can it be repaired? weeks, months?
Anonymous No.64139259 >>64139301
>>64139213
I wonder if you believe the shit you spew to defend your daddy. What an embarrassment.
Anonymous No.64139269
>>64138751
>>64138762
>Obvious samefag is obvious
Anonymous No.64139277
>>64139229
history doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes the russians have been working for years to subvert the right just like they did to the left back in the old days
Anonymous No.64139278
>>64139229
>I still don't understand how the pro-Russia narratives got so widespread in the US
they really arent when it comes to ziggerstan itself. pic related. vast majority of americans dont really like ziggers or their monke tzar

what proliferated is the firehose of shit spraying garbage like a badzillion variations of conspiracy theories everywhere. see mh-17 ziggers shot down and the resulting schizo versions vatnikstan pumped out in the coming years

social media is the root cause as it gives a loud speaker to every joe with a cheap temu mic. All zigger propaganda has to do is bribe these fucktards to spread their dictated propaganda in between their usual, like domestic, messaging. See the charges against Tenet (RT front) and how it bribed the likes of Dim Tool (Tim pool) to quote zigger propaganda
Anonymous No.64139280
They want it to get blown up, so they can have a shot of a burning american flag, and go 'look at what ukraine did - they burned one of your flags!'
Anonymous No.64139281 >>64139318
>>64139229
I'm going to be a giant flaming homo and quote a post I made a couple days ago. I really don't think that many people in the US unironically like Russia.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64119920/#64121414
There's a lot of naivety among the general public about how fucking complex geopolitics are, it's almost like most people aren't autists who learn about it for fun or as a career.
Anonymous No.64139290 >>64139343
>>64138669 (OP)
Russians truly believe that Trump will somehow end the war. Everyone seems to think that Ukraine will stop fighting and that the rest of the world will stop supplying them.
Anonymous No.64139292
>>64139246
Russia rejected Western Enlightenment thinking in favor of Byzantine-style sacred absolutism. This stopped reform necessary to prevent the kinds of imperial projects (internal and external) we see from them today. Such anti-Enlightenment thinking is present in Russian literature.
Anonymous No.64139301 >>64139310 >>64139326 >>64139353 >>64139400 >>64139419
>>64138751
>>64139189
>>64139259
If Trump is on the list why wasn't it released when he was running against Harris?
Anonymous No.64139310
>>64139301
Because this is all political theater you dumb fucking nigger.
Anonymous No.64139311
>>64138967
Of course you do, pinko faggot
Anonymous No.64139318
>>64139281
so called geopolitics aint really complex in any way. in at least current climate. its a black and white as it gets with tyrannical despots with zero redeeming qualities, like pozzia or mainland china, vs the civilized and normal western civilization and all its allies. like korea, japan and taiwan

Militarily there is not even much of a contest. Western superiority, especially air, is so lopsided 7 million israel publicly gaped 90 million iran, over several other countries, for all to see. and there was nothing the seething ajatollah could do about it. only real advantage despots have going for them is the one two punch of total censorship in their domain, so everything bad (which is a lot) is shrugged under the carpet, while flooding relatively open western media with subversive propaganda. aimed at demoralizing and paralyzing western political institutions. Sadly this has had quite some success

only ones in the "grey zone" are the rest of the world like south america or africa
Anonymous No.64139326
>>64139301
Why didn't he just release it, what's so fucking hard about it? Give one good reason.
Anonymous No.64139328 >>64139349 >>64139363
In all the likelyhood all of the American elite is on that fucking list. Biden, Trump, Obama, Bush, Clintons, Kennedys, etc.
Anonymous No.64139343
>>64139290
they are stuck in the cognitive dissonance of their master-slave mentality. as ukranians defy with the backing of europe donnies capitulation demands so does the confusion intensify with ziggers
Anonymous No.64139349
>>64139328
Honestly, Trump is the one person I don't think actually went to Lolita Island because he could get what Epstein was selling anywhere else because dumb thots would throw themselves at him. Either a lot more people who support him were on it than he realized or Bibi told him that Epstein was a Mossad asset so he backed down because he's the goodest goy there ever was.
Anonymous No.64139353
>>64139301
>Why doesn't the left do it too
Could it be that both parties are part of the same kiddie fucking club?
But while we have you here, how would you explain Maxwell's movement to a minimum security prison with the same kind of deal Jeffery got? How come under both Trump administrations, there seems to be a hushing of the Epstien story (as soon as they're off the campaign trail). What happened to the lists that that all those grifters with out and about with during that grift photoshoot? How come Barr covered up the Epstein Suicide? How come Kash and Blondie covered up and edited the Epstein cell tape (that showed neither the cell or suicide attempt, and didn't exist 6 years ago.)?
Anonymous No.64139358 >>64139362 >>64139375
Before this thread is deleted by the faggot jannies, can someone please tell me what vehicle that is in the OP video?
Anonymous No.64139362 >>64139377
>>64139358
With all the orkish welds, it's super hard to tell. But by the slants and covers, I'd think maybe a BTR. But I cant fucking tell either.
Anonymous No.64139363 >>64139374 >>64139377
>>64139328
well yeah. the guy ran a social club for the biggest names. everybody went there.

its just that now there is a perception that anybody that went there immediately slammed one of the hookers he had on offer. when in reality reasons varied from partying with other big names to hitching a ride on his plane. but that does not matter as eipstein list=pedo list. thus donnie refusing to release it cause yes, everybody is on there

honestly only real interesting thing about the epstein guy is how he even ended up as the club host he was. dude was a failed high school teacher before re-emerging as this hot shot new york finance guy
Anonymous No.64139374 >>64139377
>>64139363
he more or less conned his way into finance by knowing people
Anonymous No.64139375 >>64139381
>>64139358
Gavinskiy BTR-113Z obr 2025
Anonymous No.64139377 >>64139393
>>64139362
I saw someone say it might be one of their tractors.
>>64139363
>>64139374
I'm banking on him being a Mossad blackmail asset because Ghislaine's dad did triple agent work for them.
Anonymous No.64139381
>>64139375
Lmao can't wait to see it in War Thunder
Anonymous No.64139391 >>64139442
>>64139229
It's not as widespread as it seems, but there's long been a faction of the right that is prone to conspiracy theories and always found NATO to be highly dubious. This has a long tradition in the U.S. and goes back at least to the John Birch Society in the 1950s, but goes back further. You see that obviously today with Alex Jones. But it was an odd thing in the 50s, because they were anti-communist to the point of paranoia, and even saw Eisenhower as a secret communist, but they opposed NATO and would even get themselves into a belief that NATO itself was part of the communist conspiracy. It's pretty schizo. They didn't want anything to do with Europe, and in the 1930s/1940s they would've been isolationists, America Firsters, sympathetic to Hitler.

FDR was very lucky to have Japan attack Pearl Harbor. Because the Japanese are racial enemies.

These people really liked MacArthur and could imagine him as a Caesar-like president, while they really hated George Marshall. I also think part of it is resentment towards the northeastern political establishment, which is more Atlanticist. I'd almost call it a populist, right-wing "farmer" ideology. The "little men who don't matter." The John Birch Society was also named after a glowie who got murked by Chinese communists and they turned him into a martyr.

The Chinese are also racially alien. The Russians, not as much. For an American anyways. They don't really see the Russian as Mongols. Also the Russians are tough bastards who like to drink and fight a lot. We can respect that.

They've aligned with Trump, even though he's not one of them, because Trump and some of his people want to focus more on Asia to contain China. Obama was also doing this. Ukraine doesn't seem like it matters to American interests. I'm not justifying this position, I'm just explaining.
Anonymous No.64139393 >>64139421
>>64139377
it's kind of the chicken and the egg, did he become of interest because he conned his way into success or did he con his way into success because he was of interest
in the end the loyalty of every jew should be in doubt considering how good the mossad is on using them
Anonymous No.64139400
>>64139301
Because other powerful people on both sides are on the list too, this is pretty obvious. It's not like he's the only child diddler in a position of power.
Most others in power knew to shut the fuck up about it and never bring up epstein ever again. And it was working, too. People would have eventually almost completely stopped talking about it.
He, however, surrounded himself with people who would not shut the fuck up about it (fair), and he even said that he'd have no problem releasing "the list" if elected, so now people are asking him to do it (also fair). To top it all off, he handled it about as well as he handles anything, which just poured more gas on the fire
>it's pretty boring stuff, are you still talking about it???
Anonymous No.64139419 >>64139450
>>64139301
I personally dont think that there is such a list, i just find it fucking hilarious to watch Trump&co having to do damage controll over the same schizotard-shit conspiracy theory that they themself have been fueling the last 5 years
Anonymous No.64139421
>>64139393
Yeah that's the thing about him, he was such a literal who we can only specualte about how exactly he got where he did.
Anonymous No.64139429
>>64138967
I actively advocate for the complete genocide of Russia, it's peoples, and it's culture.
Anonymous No.64139442
>>64139391
If I were to travel back in time 40 years and told people that the president would be trying to ally the US with Russia and alienate (Western) Europe I'd be put in a nuthouse, even before I mentioned it being Trump

(jk, Reagan closed all of them)
Anonymous No.64139450 >>64139507
>>64139419
I mean there isn't a literal "I fucked teenage girls" list, just a "I visited to the private island filled with teenage whores" list, some people would claim it's the same thing.
Anonymous No.64139462 >>64139481 >>64139512
>>64139229
>Guys I've known for years on shooting forums or whatever
Also to add to this -- you're seeing this on shooting forums, yeah? There's a reason for that. In American culture, this kind of John Birch / right-wing schizo stuff heavily overlaps with gun culture, prepper/survivalist culture, libertarian culture, militia culture, and fundamentalist Protestantism. There's strong distrust of the government and a kind of apocalyptic mindset to these people. At least as a narrative. The world is always careeing towards a nuclear disaster, and there's a shadowy cabal that's responsible.

You run into these people a lot if you hang around gun stuff, or go to gun shows. It's just part of the atmosphere. But most people who own guns and are interested in it as a hobby can be like "okay, these people are a little crazy." But they're not wrong about guns and maybe having some survival stuff (just in case!). It's the difference between liking guns and that being part of a whole holistic (and rather religious) belief system and intepretation of reality that leads one to join a religious cult or move to Russia because you think the earth is going to flip upside down.

Many of these people don't vote, or if they do, they vote for Republicans, but they're not part of the Republican establishment, and they could see Trump as their champion (which is an interesting subject), but like I was saying, he's not one of them. They voted for Ross Perot in the 1990s.
Anonymous No.64139479
>>64139250
Hard to say. Russians will probably say function will be restored in matter of hours when they haven't even got the fire put out after a week.
Anonymous No.64139480 >>64139484
>>64139073
>I like Russian literature
oh yeah all those great books on how it's awful to be russian and living in russia.
>and history
which part? the awful parts? or the god awful parts?
Anonymous No.64139481 >>64139513
>>64139462
>most people who own guns and are interested in it as a hobby can be like "okay, these people are a little crazy." But they're not wrong about guns and maybe having some survival stuff (just in case!).
It kinda pisses me of that sensible things like knowing basic first aide and having a generator and some supplies always get lumped in with the guy hiding in a homemade bunker eating MRE's evety time a helicoper flies overhead
Anonymous No.64139484
>>64139480
I prefer the aweful aweful parts myself to be honest
Anonymous No.64139485
>>64138967
russia isn't friends with anybody. russia only understands domination and submission.
If you want to have good relations with russia, you need to be much stronger than them.
Anonymous No.64139507
>>64139450
> just a "I visited to the private island filled with teenage whores" list
damn true brother, my friend got jailed because he had drugs on him and more in his house but so what? it doesn't mean he was selling it or even using it, he just found them in the street and he didn't even know it was drug... but the faschist judge didn't give a shit about that
Anonymous No.64139512
>>64139462
Distrusting the government while being a fanboy of a foreign authoritarian government is a pretty lunatic brain malrunction when you think about it.
Anonymous No.64139513
>>64139481
I'd tell Europeans to watch King of the Hill or something. I'm from Texas and watch it and it can come across as a documentary of where I grew up. It's satirical but I'm referring to guys like Dale Gribble. He's the "gun nut" conspiracy theorist with the shortwave radio in his basement. He's a cartoonish side character, he's not the everyman, but there are people like this, and everybody knows a guy like this. Maybe there's a little bit of him in you. But Mike Judge had a good attitude about it I thought, because every character is interesting and has a modicum of dignity. He doesn't morally condemn the different characters.
Anonymous No.64139525
If there is a permanent peace in Ukraine, I bet the Donbas is going to get a ton of development and rebuilding money, regardless of who ends up owning it.
Anonymous No.64139616
>>64138857
>TRUCKSUIT
some moskals can be funny