Thread 64138945

Work of art edition

Big pet peeve of mine when companies do engraved guns they often engrave stupid shit like “premier grade” “limited edition”, no I don’t want fucking limited edition engraved on the gun. I want a limited edition

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>>64138945 (OP)
Here's your limited edition engraving brother

>revolvers
Contributing my silly moon clip gun

Can somebody explain the fuckass beretta M9/92 variants in retard terms
>walk into gun show
>ask for m9
>shows me some beretta m92a4 centurion ltt steel competition
wut? sig is easier to understand atp, just give me a 80s looking m9 so I can larp fuck dude

>>64139017
LGS usually assume you want options for sights, optics or WML's

>>64139017
So just order a commercial M9.

>>64139017
92FS and M9 are what you want. They have remained largely unchanged since the 1980s.

>>64138980
I've been thinking about getting a 4.2" SP101 Match Champion as my first revolver. I don't like stainless so I'll probably DLC coat it

>>64139065
based

>>64139017
Pearls to swine I suppose.

>want to buy a cc9
>really want to handle it first
>LGS doesn't get them in and when they do they get 1 and it sells immediately
I just want to touch it before I fucking buy it. Am I being obstinate here?

>>64139206
Go to another store. Some of the bigger ones won't even let you touch the gun you're about to buy. I had a Cabelas do that when I found an LTT 92 back when they first came out. Wouldn't take the lock off the trigger because some asshole a couple years back had been fingerfucking a handgun, threw a live round into the chamber, and killed himself on the spot with it.

>>64138963
Is that…

>>64139206
No, I personally hated the feel of the grip with whatever backstrap the one at my LGS had. Perhaps you can work something out where buy one at your local store and then make your decision when you get it in hand for a full refund

>>64139206
go to gunshow, handle a super overpriced 1200$ cc9 but don’t buy, then give the salesman the Jim halpert look when he asks if ur interested

>>64139109
>Every B76 is a billion dollars
It hurts.

>>64139225
>walks in laughing like beavis
>”hehe..hehe..butthead watch this..heh”
>looks down barrel
>gives a cabelas employee a reason to be anti gun

>>64139225
>threw a live round into the chamber, and killed himself on the spot with it.
jesus fucking christ
>>64139233
> Perhaps you can work something out where buy one at your local store and then make your decision when you get it in hand for a full refund
the cc9s i keep seeing for cheap are there on guns.com, I should investigate their refund policy.
>>64139237
this is what I'll probably wind up doing.

>>64139109
Do those weird rainbow color talon grips suck?

>>64139255
That episode where they get robbed while working at Burger World is a classic.
>"I've got a gun, idiot! This is a robbery."
>"Whoa, cool! Hey Beavis, this dude says he's got a gun!"
>"Cool! Tell him to go home and get it!"

>$340 gun with a $75 rebate
Let me guess, you need... less?

https://www.guns.com/firearms/p/beretta-apx-a1-compact?i=300982

Silhouette is fun go shoot silhouette

>>64139342
Be that a Spuhr?

>>64139285
Nah they're great, they're bumply without being flesh teary, a great medium between the textured rubber and skate tape

New holster day

>>64139392
Bonus CZ

>>64139392
How do you like that p30 magwell?

>>64139414
Very comfy and sleek I use this gun for USPSA as well as winter carry

>>64139406
What’s that mag? I just have the regular ones but that looks really cool.

>>64139420
It's a 10rd mag with a hyve extension that I cerakoted to match the gun. I use Wolff brand springs

>>64139425
Oh and it'll hold 14 in this configuration

>>64139354
Ya

>>64139425
Neat. Thanks anon.

>>64139065
>>64139162
>>64139017

I just bought a 92FS. Straight bottom, no radius on grip, dovetail rear. Is the only different between it and the M9 the stamped letters? Seems pointless to have both.

>>64139455
>straight bottom
I doubt it buddy.

>>64139446
Big pimpin. It's on my list to get one eventually. Until then, I am big pimpin frogly.

>>64139662
What a beauty

Should I buy one of these for my new stainless SR1911 or will it be relatively easy to just clean it with the usual stuff? I'm only really concerned about dark fouling build up around the muzzle.

>>64139817
Nice. Going to copy this but not call “failure to stop” that gay shit but call it the Michael Brown shoot down

>>64139858
Just for you, my friend

>>64139858
In case you want the official standards

>>64138945 (OP)
Should I mill my vp9l for RMR or buy an optics ready slide

>>64139913
Scoring is done my taking the raw time and adding the following penalties:

C-zone impacts: 0.25 seconds
D-zone impacts: 1 second
Misses: 2 seconds

A 0.25 second bonus is subtracted from the final score if the test is performed from concealment or using an active retention (SLS+ALS minimum) duty holster.

So my run here >>64139817 would be a calculated
2.69 bill drill
4.09 split bill drill
2.26 Mozambique
2.14 Immediate incapacitation (double tap to eye box)
Or a solidly "Dark" pin run.

Technically you're supposed to shoot everything four times and your best two must both be at or better than the pin you "score"
If your first attempt is worse than a dark pin time on any drill you fail the whole test.

Pic unrelated, 10 yard attempt at slow fire

>>64138945 (OP)
>Work of art
:^)

I like pocket carry because I can keep my hand on the gun inconspicuously and get it out in a hurry. The comfiness is an added bonus.

Is this the only thread left on the board that's still made and populated by real human beings?

>>64140061
Kind of. It used to be better with more regular posters who shot or otherwise generated content

I like appendix since I can carry a large handgun, the gun is mostly in my line of sight, and nobody is going to be looking at my junk for a bulge.

>>64140061
/hg/ has always been the best general (highest floating turd)
Also, pocket carry J-frame shrouded hammer is the GOAT because you can just shoot through a jacket pocket. But it's really obvious you have a weapon if you finger fuck it a lot.
Was a convenient way to interact with crazy homeless as a security guard and keep a barrel on them (yes, I aimed a loaded gun at people without their knowledge, they had tried to kill me in the past, I assure you it was a reasonable and justified behavior)

What were you doing in that video? Looks like an 8" IDPA A-zone?

>>64139993
If youre the anon that has been custom making his own p220 grips congrats this is your best work yet I love it.

>>64139941
Great post. I can't wait to get back into the range again soon.

>>64140061
I just got word today my BG 2.0 I plan on pocket carrying for road trips arrived at my FFL. Had been kicking around a couple different ideas of how to cerakote it. Someone here reccomended black multicam and I liked that idea but I think after all the James Reeves talk about road rage and bullshit police reports I'm going to get it paited something like this but with the black and yellow reversed so if someone does file a false police report I can just say "well unless they said it was a yellow gun they're lying."

I usually carry 5oclock strong side. It's what I practice draws with the most and I feel uncomfortable with the idea of quick draws appendix. I like my dick and balls with as many holes as I came out the factory with.

>>64140122
I didn't make those >>64139993 grips. They're Maplewood and made in Finland. But yeah I'm the P220 projects anon.

How does /hg/ feel about compensators?

>>64140142
In my opinion they're not worth the flash and length on a carry gun. On a range toy, who cares, rule of cool.

>>64140145
>length
I'm considering getting a cut like this on my 5th P220.

>>64140122
Thank god for dark mode, state trooper was driving behind me while I typed this whole thing out and I didn't realize he was an unmarked until he passed me and I saw way too many antenna.

Yerba mate man, I tried the peach flavor and it was like... 20% as funky as real yerba mate. And not necessarily in a good or bad way just different while being recognizably the same flavor

>>64140142
This is me compensating for not having a real can

i want to get a 9mm hammer fired compact or microcompact. Would I be retarded to get a S&W CSX?

>>64140142
Compensators I think are incredibly impractical on most set ups, especially tilting barrel guns. >>64140149 porting like this, free recoil reduction due to no additional mass hampering reliability.

Ports/comps make the gun louder, personally I don’t like shooting ported/comped guns since it just feels weird and if in a cramped shooting stall uncomfortable

>>64140094
That's exactly what I was shooting at, or a homemade version of a standard IDPA target to be exact. It's a .38 LCR so I do 2 shots, reholster, then three shots, or the other way around. I don't make a big deal out of running full bill drills even with larger guns because shooting three gets me the same amount of practice as shooting six, in my opinion. For pocket carry, I don't usually keep my hands in my pockets, but it was helpful for that one time a sketchy guy knocked on my door and I didn't give shit if he knew I was holding a gun.

>>64140157
>Would I be retarded to get a S&W CSX?
Why would you say that? it's a good double stack hammer fired microcompact. I would get the E Series if you thinking about carrying one.

>>64140157
No, it’s firmly okay and a few anons have them. Me included.

>okay trigger, not 1911 tier but perfectly fine for a micro. Decent perhaps
>safety is a little too low profile
>2nd gen’s update makes the trigger safety harder to depress in my opinion, I can’t consistently do it on my dad’s vs my Gen 1 which never had an issue
>gives you the itch for a real 1911 which will lead to financial ruin

>>64140142
I really need to take a better pic of this guy, but the comp does make this thing pretty dreamy. That being said, I will never carry a gun with a comp on it, even if it's built in to the barrel.

>>64140172
Also the manual of arms is superior to a 1911 since you can load and unload with the safety on

>>64140160
Lol I forgot I have this barrel. It doesn't feel much different with 230grs but it's fun as hell with 185s.

>>64140177
>I will never carry a gun with a comp on it, even if it's built in to the barrel.
Because of the concussion or something else?

>>64140157
>Would I be retarded to get a S&W CSX?
The CSX I rented was terrible, especially coming from the company that made the shield plus which imho is the best microcompact. The controls were stiff, the slide and trigger were stiffer and I just didn't group well with it. It was snappy and generally worse than even the $230 taurus GX4 I shot the same day.

All that being said, the CSXe could have fixed all of that. Try finger fucking one in a shop.

>>64140177
I was >>64140160

Hmm. On my personal 92 with the Jarvis two port I felt it didn’t really do much, and actually prefer my px4 compact to it. Then I shot another anon’s 92 with the Jarvis two port + brass grips + brass magazine extension it was ridiculously nice. I’ve shot that same pistol without the comp so I know it’s the comp doing the work. I was running stock springs and I think that anon was using lighter recoil springs.

I’m jealous of your WC brigadier not being fucking blue, the anodization of mine is off and it’s so ugly

>>64140172
I want to polish my detonics but the damn rollmark is about as deep as a fingernail scratch.

>>64140217
Attaching mass to a pistol barrel effects reliability, most guns the barrel needs to move in the unlocking process which Glocks for example have tilting barrels which means the barrel needs to lift the compensator which is acting as a lever at the end. In addition to the reliability issue they spit powder and other debris out more aggressively, which can get in your eyes if you were shooting from the hip or something. They’re also louder. I remember talking to one guy who had a shield performance center that was ported and when doing the tom cruise collateral drill shooting from the hip was throwing shit in his face

>>64139662
Really good looking. Why is it that Euros make the best revolvers on the market when revolvers are so distinctly American?

>>64140142
They're great. For a carry they are already pretty loud without adding a comp, so keep that in mind. On top of that a comp will be very uncomfortable if you shoot it from any position other than a normal shooting stance. So if it's low because the person is close then the comp will shoot a pressure wave up at you. Presumably your attacker too so guess it isn't the worst thing but it's something else to consider.

>>64140218
The CSX E feels fine apart from the safety pinching and being tough to actuate. Most small guns like that will be snappy but I haven't shot one in a while to compare to something like the shield.

>>64139662
that is sexy as fuck, I want a ruger gp100 but I really can't swing it financially right now.

Is choosing a revolver for concealed carry a meme?

>>64140330
No, but acting like it’s the best thing ever is though. Like carrying a revolver is fine but making up all sorts of gymnastics why it’s superior to an autoloader in every way.

>>64140330
Yes, and it's a good thing

if youre limited to 10rds what are you taking?
shield x
shield plus
glock 26
glock 43

>>64140394
10 rounds is close to enough, where it’s more important about being able to put them where you need them than anything else. Perhaps a larger handgun might be better if it’s possible to conceal, like a G19 or other guns

>>64140394
>if youre limited to 10rds
P220.

>>64140394
CZ-97.

>>64140400
interesting thought because i have a glock 19 but it seems stupid to me to carry something capable of 15rds but only carry 10. like its extra size for no benefit

>>64139285
Talon grips are phenomenal. I have sweaty hands and the skateboard tape grip from Talon grips works very well.

>>64140411
Would you shoot your G19 better than any of those guns?

Now that the dust has settled, how’s the COA? Worth $1k for the combo?

>>64140394
8rd .357 revolver

Burt, a YouTuber named "Gunbelievable" has put a red dot on his LifeCard. Thought you might get a chuckle

*farts loudly*

I need to get to the range

Apparently the MecGar 18 round Glock mags in Glocks with the right set of fucked up parts (fully cocked striker conversions) allows for an unintentional discharge when over inserted. The mag lips hit the extractor and let the striker drop due to some glockism.

https://youtube.com/shorts/VZnF69gmUoE?si=3p0NsDtAdTNcICMS

Watching this old training film rn
https://youtu.be/ILlgeQ5Lm6E?si=9oklFSR3p0XNeX4R

>>64140733
That’s not even a Glock pistol. It’s a frankengun made to look like a Glock.

>>64140733
I remember this happening with certain third party mags before too.

>>64140733
>retarded made up issue with no mechanical basis
>goldfish attention span shorts viewer
Checks out.

>>64140394
Shield 45

>>64140755
Don’t think it’s made up, it just highlights how putting a bunch of aftermarket stuff together doesn’t always equal better. Siggers are using it to try to say “but Glock” though

>>64140330
>>64140343
It's not superior in every way, but there are some advantages that revolvers have that aren't just cope.

>Glock NY1 spring with 3.5lb connector
Outdated, or still a good option?

>>64140733
>siggers: if i modify this gun to remove every safety feature it becomes as dangerous as a p320! #NOTJUSTSIG
Brutal sigger self own

We are on the cusp of a DA/SA revival gentlemen. Siggers are dead set on taking the striker pistol down with them.

>>64140755
>extractor
I meant ejector, the MecGar mags have no over insertion protection

>>64140411
Some g26 sized guns accept 11-12rd mags natively and are reasonable as 10s

>>64140806
>DA/SA revival
Nah

>>64140394
If you're in CA, you are not limited to 10 rounds. Glock mags do not have date stamps.

>>64139772
Those are literally magic but you should be fine, I use them for my revolver cylinder faces.

>>64140808
I know what you meant, it's still physically impossible. There is a chunk of slide steel in between the ejector and the striker channel.

>>64140816
Well, it's no skin off my knee

>>64140827
Are you suggesting it was staged?

Alright guys what's stopping me from buying an LTT elite compact for 700ish online right now?
I know they dont actually have any LTT parts or even an optics cut but theres literally no such thing as a compact beretta anymore.
Are one of the other vertec versions any better? My budget allows for maybe a 92GTS or a 92Xi or a m9a4 with maybe one coat of unfuck-the-color cerakote, but the performance or 1500+ models are too much.

>>64140827
It’s not a OEM Glock slide and the source is Joel Park

>>64140868
The truth you know it in your heart that the 92 isn’t as good as the PX4 in the compact footprint

I gave you a link to a 300 dollar 92X compact frame last thread

>>64140877
i got scared of the thought of having to replace the springs and sears n shit from my clapped out 96 and having it not work and then having to buy new parts and never finishing the project sorry
then i saw palmetto and gunprime are listing ltt elite compacts for 749

>>64140868
Fuck LTT, that is all.

>>64140743
Based anon, I will watch with you

>>64140094
>/hg/ has always been the best general (highest floating turd)
Not if I can help it! And jannies are with me

>>64134758
Holosun warranty is worthless, on reddit right now there is a thread with 2 people, the poster and another random commenter, who dropped their 507comp before even putting it on their gun, got badly cracked and Holosun refuses to warranty it

How did the 507comp pass 1 drop on the Sagedynamics test on a loaded gun, and barely crack after another from a shoulder height drop, but 2 people can seemingly crack it dropping it from waist high with just the weight of the optic?

pic related

>>64141147
I sent in a 510C for being too blue after asking Holosun Josh if it was normal. They took over 30 days and sent back the same optic in the exact same sandwich bag I shipped it in. No notes, no email.

>>64141153
yes because they insist on forcing the americans to repair the optics, they always try to send a "repaired" optic or another used unit...

Your story is literally just the standard service, if they receive your RMA and determine nothing is wrong, but why did they take it in the first place?

because they get many complaints of being unresponsive, seems they are overworked, and will just forward any issue to fill an RMA form...
Others report the unit was seemingly worked on and told it was fixed but has the same or other issues, because it's the same unit... So an actual bad warranty experience is having to send it in not just once but twice or maybe even three times....

You can always go help them out though they offer a very generous $3,000-$3,300 salary, in California
https://holosun.com/about/company/careers.html

of course the operation is run out of a modest accommodation, estimated value, $14,000,000 facility
https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/821-Echelon-Ct-City-Of-Industry-CA/6404461/

as recently as about a year ago their rep was posting they had about 15 people employed, not sure if that was total or just working customer support... lol

Vortex has ~400... I can find ~200 right now on directory websites, should be all American or at least in the USA

Holosun is a cost saving operation IMO, working Americans like Chinese sweatshop workers IMO... I can't think of any other explanation for their horrible warranty, and all the above, except it doesn't affect their sales, they want to save that money babay

>>64141184
lmao, in CA those are non english speaking immigrant wages. I made more in high school

>>64141187
CCP mindset, the CEO shares a last name with CEO of supplier Haunic, a Haunic subsidiary in China makes optics directly for PLA apparently, the Holosun CEO also owns 15% of Haunic according to the vermilion article... so he is almost certainly comfy with the party, they are not only the elite and rich poltiically mingling with CCP naturally but literally supply the freaking army apparently.

IMO of course he won't respect Americans, he won't even pay more for his customers to get better warranty service, why pay what he porbably feels are lazy stupid American workers well? Pay the bare minimum and overwork them, don't lose money replacing used optics with new one, milk the workers time to repair them and send used units as replacements. Guessing he probably has as much respect for his workers as he does the customers as they continue to buy and support the company despite it's absolute dogshit warranty and unresponsiveness, and American businesses just support them as well...

The vermilion article wasn't actually news, insiders knew who they were and knew who they were getting in bed with

https://www.vermilionchina.com/p/holosun-chinese-or-american

>>64141210
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-Holosun-Reflex-sights-in-use-with-80th-Army-Group-of-the-PLA/5-2498943/?page=1
Yeah, old news. I hate that Vermillion article because it was written by that fat retard at TASKER Network. I won't stop buying Holosun until they totally shit the bed. Their stuff is good, just bad customer service.

>>64141237
not buying is the only way to get them to change and be competitive

people had the same mindset about Sig knowing it had issues and kept supporting them instead of demanding a fix. Nothing really changed pre and post 'it ends now' except public opinion...

wonder if the same happens, especially being a warranty issue if that effects resale, anyway I don't care, plenty of cheaper just as good alternatives with good warranty, same way I didn't care if a sigger bought before it it nds now and don't care after lol, I know what is a good deal and isn't and paying extra for less ain't it, it's your money

carry on

>>64141333
I'm not about to boycott something every single time. That's just being dramatic.

>>64141371
thanks for commenting but im not reading that

if someone legit tells you they are dumb you should get up and leave and not waste time continuing to listen...

would you listen to a liberal yap after they told you that they are a liberal?

you understand, thanks, I won't be commenting again in this thread

>>64141424
You need some form of psychiatric help.

>>64140330
I'd rather someone actually carry a revolver, whether it's a .38 snubbie or 8.5" SAA clone in .45 LC, over buying a striker gun and then letting it rot in some drawer.

>>64140733
It's the trigger tech trigger.

>>64141187
CA is so fucked, 3.3k a month in many parts of the country is decent.

>>64138945 (OP)
Do those engravings serve any tactical purpose.

I think today I will go to pawn shops around Jacksonville Florida and look for lightly used pistols. Anyone from around there reccomend any shops?

>>64140806
>brings up sig out of nowhere
Calm down schizo. Though, I do like the idea that sig is trying to kill the striker fired market.

>>64141948
>release a striker pistol so shit it collapses the striker market
>finally lower the 226 price to $500 and it becomes the most ubiquitous firearm of our time

(They) have been planning this, I was just too blind until now to see it.

>>64142024
Yeah but they would have to be good for that to happen, and there’s the problem.

>Burt was talking up the Trigger Tech Ace Glock trigger saying Trigger Tech was going to change the game
>Trigger Tech Trigger almost kills a man in a Ben Stoeger class

>>64142030
>p226
>not good
You have to go back.

>>64142040
It’s heavy, outdated, has retarded controls and made by the current worst manufacturer on the market, what’s to like?

>>64142040
The 226 is overrated. The M9 was probably always better.
I'm honestly beginning to believe Sig was never good.

>>64142024
>finally lower the 226 price to $500 and it becomes the most ubiquitous firearm of our time
I've seen people saying stuff like this since Sig started having issues but Sigs have only been going up in price. At this point the standard P226 is priced up there with the USP and even if you're determined to go with Sig you could spend slightly more and get a MK25 or Legion, they're not much more expensive than the base model anymore.

>>64142115
Isn't the leejun SAO and also has a worse finish?

>>64142119
The SAO trigger on the legion is really really awesome. Better than the FNX SA trigger and WAY better than the MK25 SA trigger, I shot them back to back to back at Stoddards rental range in atlanta.

Sig has never been great at finishes, especially for the price point.

>>64142024
I see now...trvst the plan legionnaires

I don't hate Sig as much as others but I think they're just done. Even if that airman didn't die from his Sig going off, their reputation is in the toilet and all the stuff autists knew for years is common knowledge now. Their guns are overpriced and have a reputation for being shitty. They fuck over all their customers. They came out with a reissue of some retro single stack some years ago and it was fucking $2000. They are insane.
All Sigs at this point just bear the brand of being put out by a shit company. No one will care if you have a P226 and the 226 is good, it's still a Sig.
It's a shame because I wanted a 226 at some point for the Blood Diamond LARP but I'm just kind of sick of the whole company now.

>>64142223
Was there even a 226 in blood diamond? I only remember the USP compact

>>64141526
whatever you say Holosoy

>>64142223
>gun company
>overpricing their guns
>having low quality assurance
>fucking over their customers
>reissuing a retro gun for 2000 dollars

>>64142223
>It's a shame because I wanted a 226 at some point for the Blood Diamond LARP

Better buy an HK USPc then, because there are no Sigs in Blood Diamond.

>>64142119
>Isn't the leejun SAO
Depends on which one. Legion is an upgrade class, not a specific firearm. There's even a Legion 320 if you want to spend HK tier money to blow your balls off.

>>64141147
Quality control is bad and they most likely send their best optics to reviewers or since he might've bought it himself qc for them has gone down hill since then.

>>64142223
It's wild that people will have a tantrum at sig doing a retro re release that's overpriced but keep their fucking lips shut with every other manufacturer that shits one out

>>64142338
>>64142266
Oh shit I guess there's actually no reason for me to want a P226 at all then

>>64142439
Beretta has been doing retro 92FSes since it wasn’t retro

it's not exactly on topic, but i thought you anons would get a kick out of this - 98gr .32 caliber rimless magnum approaching 10mm muzzle energy
i don't think there would be any reasonable way to get this to work without creating a small bomb but it would be entertaining

>>64140827
>>64140755
https://youtu.be/o1uW567zM0Q?si=-tPHZDyf-fnsM0Bt

Trigger tech sisters… Johnny Glock fucked us

>>64142223
SIG is 100% gonna have to restructure their company pretty dramatically after all this, assuming they even stay in business. They aren't going to be able to rely on civilian sales anymore and will have to primarily focus on getting random gov contacts where they can. Again, this is all assuming they don't get sued into oblivion, which could very well happen and should happen

>>64142482
That's because the 92 series is quite literally a staple brand but even then it's still overpriced as fuck

>>64142613
Wheres the non turkshit or brown made hammer fired duty gun that has a good trigger for sub 600?

>>64142613
They’re 500-600 dollars

>>64142592
Just like Kimber they're gonna have to eat shit until they come out with a totally new gun that doesnt suck so they can.prove they're post in a Cohen state.

>>64142613
You can get a new 92FS for under $600 w/ free shipping. How is that overpriced? I’d pay that much for a new 92FS.

>>64142627
No, they're either 600-800 bucks

>>64142644
>$800 for a 92fs
Retard

>people complaining about an all-metal hammer fired duty gun that is $600
Literally the same price as polymer shit. Even the cheap Turkish M9 copies are $500 so it isn't even much of a deal. The M9 is screaming value.

>>64142661
That's used, you'll mostly seem them for 700 to 800

>>64142223
Sig is generally overpriced but the P210 you mention is one of the rare price Ws they had. The standard model was only like $1.100 with frame checkering which is cheaper than a midgrade 1911 without checkering and a heck of a lot more unique and sought after

>>64142644
Bereli recently had 92FSs for 569

>>64142650
PSA has a sale on 92's rn and before the sale a brand new 92fs would've cost $769.99

>>64142710
See >>64142702
Bereli has them for $595 with free shipping. Whatchu mean $800 bruh.

I was looking at my new 686 revolver and the front sight doesn't seem to be open pinned like the other one I own... unless if um looking at it wrong. Thoughts?

>>64142741
*roll pin

>>64142741
Maybe the dude just squeezed the sight in and forgot to drill the roll pin hole for the sight

>>64142776
S M I T H E D

>>64142722
Sorry it's 799 before the sale

>>64142850
>yeah, I chose not to look around for better deals, so it’s $800
Just give it up already. Learn to use gun.deals

>>64138945 (OP)
I love my smiths, my 27-2 and 13-2

>>64142868
Quit conflating a sale deal to the standard price

>>64142905
>he thinks you can only buy from PSA
Bereli has had them under $600 for years. Check gun.deals, there are other vendors that list them for under $600, you stupid nigger.

>>64142905
>Go on gun deals to see if anyone is retarded or not
>8 listings right now for under $630 with multiple at 599
Just stop lmao

>>64140733
>si=

>>64142905
PSA’s sales are constant and their sale is actually their offered price. The black text is usually MSRP and then what they’re offering is the “sale”

Just picked up my parkerized Tisas M1911A1 today, no complaints besides the magazine catch wasn't properly dehorned and I had to file off a little bit of material. The extractor has a lot of chatter marks on it internally and doesn't visually align perfectly with the rear of the slide, but it's not a big deal.

Very happy with this thing so far, gonna take it to the range tomorrow and put 100 rounds through it.

>>64143011
>nooo I'm being tracked the govt is gonna get me!!!!!

>>64143031
Yeah the Tisas small parts aren’t that great but they aren’t mim at least

>>64143075
>I don’t care about long nose intrusion, what’s the problem goy?

Best stick on texture wrap for EDC carry on a px4 compact? The regular rubber talon grips are really slick and the grip tape will just rip up shirts I'm looking for a half way point

>>64142223
They'll be fine. They've still got guns backordered at my LGS so the online furor doesn't seem to translate to an actual boycott

>>64143155
Stippling

>>64143155
https://instantstipple.com/product/instant-stipple-for-beretta-px4-storm-compact-9mm-40/
This is a healthy middle.

>>64143030
Well then I'm a retard and I apologize for everything

>>64143195
I want something less permanant.
>>64143224
Thanks that looks good.

>>64143224
>instant stipple
>I thought it was going to be some crazy instant thermal reaction product that melts a pattern onto the polymer frame
>it’s grip tape

Is the Acss Vulcan reticle worth it on a Holosun?

>>64143253
Its not instant but laser stippling is kinda like that

>>64143155

>>64143256
Not really. It’s a battery killer and with the practice needed to learn how to use a dot you wouldn’t need it normally. But the only advantage it has if you have to aim in a fucked up position or one handed upside down

>>64143230
I think you'll like it, probably the best granulated rubber type. Doesn't bleed the rubber everywhere like other brands do.
>>64143253
I wish, but it's pretty good grip tape.

Bruh I finally settled on Holosun and now this dude is telling me their warranties are shit.
Between RMR type 2 or the Vortex but everybody told me Vortex will die.
So I was looking at reviews and everybody was cooming over the $300 Holosuns.
Do I really just need to save up like 1200 for the Trijicon HD?
There's an RMR type 2 in FDE at my local gun store for less than $500 (before I +tip the government)

>>64143335
I even settled on the $300 picatinny open rifle Red Dot for a back up on sight on a scope.
No purchases made yet but I think I'll just buy the damn supressor first whole reason I even got the M9A4 but everybody says pistol red dots are the shit right now making you fuck harder and faster by 25% at least.

>>64140394
cissy9 or g48

>>64143335
HDs should be around 770 dollars. RMR type 2s and SROs are around the same price.

If you don’t drop the SRO it’s a decent optic

>>64143335
>>64142413
Holosun employee's seem low IQ to me, like seriously who is working for this company paying 3k a month...
I always thought there was something strange about them but i knew they were in california so I figured they were just basedboys, but now I know they are basically chinese slaves it makes sense, looking at all the poeple they have had talking for them in the last 2 years they seem slightly retarded, what happened to that mexican guy they had a few years ago who didn't look inbred and talk funny?
was about to buy a holosoy optic now I think I will get another brand...

>>64143335
I ain't gonna lie anon if you want to go with a budget option just go with a cyelee. I thought my holosun was decent but the prices they go for nowadays don't match the quality imo.

>>64143416
Holosoy sisters, say it ain't so...

>>64143541
noooooo

Chang Ganged

>>64140818
even worse, rhode island

I'm just going to save up for the Trijicon HD and buy the supressor first.
Fags talking me out of just getting the RMR like I originally intended

>>64143556
stop being a little bitch just buy a used one or get a user vortex, if the vortex fucks up they will at least make it right

it's literally one company that has been hyped up way to hard and long like Sig, like without a good warranty they are just overpriced, it's not the end of the fucking world there are a bunch of decent optics brands, dip your toe into the fucking water instead of being a sigger

>>64143556
It’s really hard to justify buying a RMR in 2025.

Sig Romeo X optics are “US assembled”. Get the FDE compact one and then use a 507K plate on your 92. The pro sized ones aren’t real DPP footprints so no slides other than Sig slides can take them, the compact sized Romeo X optics are RMSC

>>64139993
I don't file my sights either, kek

>>64143335
RMRs die at the same rate as Holosuns. Just buy what you want based on features and price and stop being autistic. But not an RMR HD because you specified lens clarity.

>>64143756
They do not. That is a lie perpetrated by chinkshit companies that commit h1b fraud to bring slave labor into America

>>64143756
noodle nigger detected
first error is saying holoshit = trijicon
also plenty of other reliable brands, they aren't the only two
and holoshits warranty is DOGSHIT making the price worse than trijicons unironically

>>64143779
lol
>>64143541
that actually looks like the guy from shotshow at the holosun booth, josh or whatever his name is
that's pretty fucking funny

I've had to send in my holosun IRIS back for warranty work 3 FUCKING TIMES. Up until then I've never had issues with holosun with their red dots however now I won't buy from them ever again.

>>64143802
>>64143756
yeah.... fuck buying a holosun, their subreddit is FILLED with people with issues, warranty, won't repair, small defects that will need over a month to get back and worse the rep there talks to people like shit, didn't know he was a chinese sex slave, no wonder hes so fucking angry

>>64143779
I have never heard of it from chinkshit companies. I heard of it from a gun store employee whose business kept track of returns. But keep coping.

>>64143779
>>64143816

>>64143816
holy shit, post more anon!

I want to see the secrets

are these for warranty work or customers wanting refunds?

>>64143779
>>64143816
>>64143823
Scratch that, the poster said he worked for a distributor so he's seeing much higher volume than a single shop.
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/54534446/#54538950
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/54534446/#54539316
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/54534446/#54539467

>>64143824
He says "return rates" but otherwise I don't know.

>>64143816
>>64143823
>source
>cylee shill peddling chink garbage

>>64143816
That chart tells me anon with the Sig recommendation was on point.
But also you have to think someone buying "top of the line" optics might be more liable to send something back over precieved minor flaws.

>>64143842
Source that's from Cyelee? In 2022?

>>64143852
Perhaps I am wrong but that cylee guy peddles the same lie.

>>64143848
I'm sure that's true which is why I said earlier they're basically on the same level. Really only the warranties are different, with Vortex and Sig being way ahead of everyone else because only those two are lifetime. And Bushnell but who the fuck buys a Bushnell in 2025 for any reason.

So if you're buying something that is roughly equivalent why would you pay 2-3x more with a worse lens and and/or worse warranty?

>>64143869
If you can't provide data to the contrary then the data I posted is clearly objective fact.

>>64143869
what lie is that?

>>64143877
That trijicon has the same failure rate as Holosun and other chink brands. It’s simply not possible.

>>64143869
>says cyelee guy is lying
>no proof
>claims he is the one shilling pics
>instantly proven wrong they are years old
>looks to be legit

holy btfo, looks like cyeleeguy was telling the truth, why the hate anon?

>>64143888
You don't remember how often RMR gen 1 battery contacts and electronics were failing? Why is it not possible? The Daniel Defense H9 was made in the US too. That sure turned out to be bulletproo--oh wait.

>>64143897
The cylee guy was using the discount codes posted here to get people’s addresses trying to dox me. Good thing I didn’t use them

>>64143904
The type 1 is a rifle optic put onto a pistol and completely forgot about it

>>64143916
I don't know what he says seems true, did he actually dox anyone? that is weird, how did he send you the coupon anyway? did you give him your email or something

https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63639076/#q63640439

"Pistol optics fanboys are #1 at getting it completely wrong and shooting themselves in the foot. That is why Holosun made an inferior competition optic to Vortex"

"just look at our optics, the features and performance in testing. Then imagine the 1 fact about reliability matching Holosun and other tier 1 companies is true and everything makes sense. I will even go a step farther, if you pay over $200 for an optic it's almost certainly about the same defect rate or maybe slightly behind no matter the brand, lol. "

whatever the deal is it seems what he said is spot on

>>64143904
Nice tattoo faggot, I bet it looks real cute when you give rimjobs to guys at the bikerbar

>>64143927
No, I’m just schizo posting. Giving out a discount code by posting it here means that anyone who used it could be tracked to posting it here, if such a code is posted you should immediately post it to reddit or Twitter or whatever to muddy the waters.

>>64143927
NTA but Cyeleefag is a MASSIVE blowhard and not to be trusted because he is full of shit. Notice how he disappeared after it started coming out the Cyelee optics are the chink dogshit that he insisted that they weren't. The guy would also shit his pants entirely and have a meltdown if you pushed back on him at all, even in a respectful way

>>64143960
ok, but post proof, another guy just said the same thing and got btfo

not even sure why you typed so much without one actual fact...

ngl idk who the fuck this cyeleeguy is probably a chink but I already like him if he's triggering so many schizo sensitive niggers

Stop replying to this retard.

>>64144042
sigga plz

Is the M&P Shield 2.0 a good gun [spoiler] for a gorl[/spoiler]?

>>64144062
get the bodyguard 2.0, they just made a version with optic mount, use that wamin

>>64144067
Danks it's for my gf, she likes my USP but finding (and affording one) where I live isn't too easy.

>>64144062
Yeah, what the other guy said. I bought my sister the shield EZ 9mm and that was a problem, the .380 version would have made so much more sense.

P2000? P30?

Just ordered a GX4 because they're $194 at BFG outfitters and after trolling around pawn shops I can't find anything that cheap. Has anyone ordered from BFG before? How long did it take to ship? Ill be leaving the state in like 10 days and I just realized if they waffle around and take forever to ship it I may run out of time to pick it up from my FFL.

>>64144127
Should have got a PX4 Compact and held it until your dumb hands accepted the superior X4

>>64143960
Wild that schitzos chimping out and him telling them they don't know shit about dick got interpreted as cylee melting down. I guess thats why other companies dont post here. Yall are the problem

I like my cylee optics ive gotten, and can attest to the Bulls durability since it flew the fuck off my PDP and landed on a concrete range floor because my dumbass didnt lock tite it when I installed it.

>>64144154
Yeah not seeing any proof from that guy

the only time I saw someone say the same thing was one obsessed guy who was clearly samefagging, he got corrected some trijicon wasnt the first with a forward sensor and maybe it's that same guy

kinda seems like a stalker desu, but I also don't know what he is talking about since he refuses to post proof

>>64143960
>after it started coming out the Cyelee optics are the chink dogshit that he insisted that they weren't
When did that "come out?" And where? Proof?

>>64144177
Lick nuts chink shill

I just don't want something chinese touching my made in austria firearm. That's all

>>64144179
Ben Stoeger. Unusable, removed from his gun by his manservant Joel Park

>>64144138
I wish it wasn't so good. It just shoots so well in my hands its unreasonable how soft that thing shoots.

>>64144179
stoeger had like 4 of their optics, he reviewed one and said it wasn't bright enough, it has a 4.7 on amazon, he never touched the other optics and kept complaining about the one he had

the cyeleeguy posted and said he was a fan and wouldn't comment but stoeger had already greenlight and reviewed another optic made in the same factory and they already are finishing a product upgrade with a different brighter emitter

maybe the cyeleeguy stalker is stoeger? explains the weird review

>>64144188
>the troll who switches brand allegiances quicker than POTUS writes checks to israel said so, it must be true

>>64144192
>>64144179
yeah it was a new astimatism emitter for people who see blurry optics, I have used one before on friends guns, it seems fine to me

>>64144192
Stoeger wouldn’t have sperged out about not knowing how the RMR HD works because he doesn’t care

Cylee guy can eat a dick. The RMR HD is the pinnacle of open emitter optics

>>64144200
holy shit is that guy who got mad he got educated on the rmr hd, dude your a fucking stalker lmfao
poor cyleeguy, better run and hide, there is a psycho boomer lookin for ya

>>64143927
I actually believe the defect rate thing he always harps about. I've seen my friend's Holosun fail before my Cyelee wolf after a couple weekends on the range. The real kicker is how customer service will handle the failure.

>>64144200
I like the RMR HD as well

>>64144200
Did something else happen from like april until now? That's what time frame im familiar with since i havent been current in these threads since then.

>>64144207
I’ve been training my draw for whenever I catch Chinese agents on my lawn

>>64144215
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63639076/#q63639822
dude is a stalker
rent free

>>64144192
>said it wasn't bright enough
Yeah that's a lie. They're as bright as Holosun or Trijicon or anyone else. No dot over $60 isn't bright enough anymore, they're all made by the same fucking companies.

>>64144228
I don't know except it uses their astigmatism reticle, maybe that one was new?

I have the brand new 6 MOA version released like a month ago and it's fucking nuclear bright, so I guess at worst that is what they will upgrade the one stoeger reviewed to?

regardless they have like 20+ products and only 1 product used that emitter he reviewed, the other optics all used 2 or 3 MOA ones that I guess are more normal?

who the fuck knows it's stoeger, he's not a reviewer, hes an entertainer, I like him but I would never fucking take him seriously.. but I was looking forward to at least a half decent review :(

Yeah this is the cyelee guy pretending to not be himself

>stalker
>stalker
>stalker
>poor cyelee guy
Cyeleefag you don't have to pretend to be someone else who just really really supports you, it's very weird. Also shut the fuck up holy shit

>>64144248
>>64144249
more wild schizos appeared!

>>64144215
Cyelee guy came in here shilling his optics, gave out like a 50% discount code for this thread, asked for feedback etc

Ever since my President said it was LIBERATION DAY I’ve been buying as much American gun related products as possible, so my shitposting naturally runs contrary to cyelee shilling

>>64144228
Nah, the first Chameleons (maybe it's been fixed now) were genuinely much dimmer at max brightness compared to Holosun. It probably WOULD be unusable if you lived in Arizona like Stoeger does.

>>64144212
how was the warranty service from Holosun?

>>64144192
So cyeleefag is admitting that his company is beta testing on customers and using cheap components? Interdasting, sounds very SIGcore
>>64144256
>if you disagree with this company I'm sucking off then you are a schizo
>the only way to absolve yourself is to be my little nigger slave and dig through the archive to find "evidence"
>also if you post it I won't even read it and just call you a schizo anyways
How about you kys

>>64144276
RMR
>TYPE 2
your so fucking stupid it's actually funny

i want a cheap cheap gun to to have in my car that i wont feel bad about losing should it be stolen etc, was looking at an lcp but are there any that i can find even cheaper that will always go bang? idc if its a revolver or pistol, just dont want a .22

>>64143927
Unfortunately yes most of us were doxxed by him. I had some cyelee employees show up to my job while I was manning the drive thru and my manager let me go after he was informed I post on 4chan.
The lesson is that even when optics don't cost a lot, they'll cost you some other way

>>64144262
Yeah i was there for that, and the sperg out by some folks telling him about optics when he's literally the subject matter expert with data and insider info. Has anything else happened in the past 4 months or just that?

>>64144332
“Subject matter expert”

I ain’t “trusting the science”. Buy American.

>>64140394
If limited by law, then a 1911 in. 45

>>64144332
some guy posted actual distributor info from 2022 and it lined up pretty well with what he said

>>64143927


the distributor info, apprently from 2022
>>64143816
>>64143823

>>64144321
this is real I was there and snapped a pic

>>64144360
The picture is Buy American Act compliant with more than 65% of the content of the image by cost is American. Same with this image.

Is your gear Buy American Act compliant? Trump just wrote an executive order that all real American militia and sheepdogs must be Buy American Act compliant

>>64144388
>Trump just wrote an executive order that all real American militia and sheepdogs must be Buy American Act compliant


While Donald Trump did issue executive orders promoting Buy American policies, most notably Executive Order 13788 "Buy American and Hire American" in April 2017, these orders focused on increasing domestic procurement for federal agencies and maximizing the use of American-made goods, products, and materials in government contracts.
There is no evidence or record of an executive order specifically targeting "militias" or "sheepdogs" in relation to the Buy American Act.
The Buy American Act primarily governs government procurement and preferences for domestically produced goods, not individual groups or citizens.
Therefore, the claim that Trump issued an executive order regarding militia and Buy American Act compliance is false.

>>64144265
No idea, but optic died suddenly and he sent it in. Been radio silent for about 2 weeks.

>>64144285
>Cyeleefag is so stupid he doesn't know anything about red dots that aren't made in China

>>64144370
Kek, i remember that smug look on the Chinaman's face as I was stripped of my hat, shoes, and slacks (all company property). Unfortunately this revealed my carry gun and i got shamed and trespassed.

>>64140394
With the hottest fuck-you Buffalo Bore loads.

>>64144398
>comparing a competition optic to a pistol going off and potentially killing you

>shilling for a company that had to completely redesign an entire product while sperging over a brightness issue

"Trijicon created the RMR (Ruggedized Miniature Reflex) Type 2 red dot sight to address some of the shortcomings of the original RMR Type 1, particularly regarding durability and reliability on firearms, especially when mounted on pistol slides. The Type 2 features enhanced electronics and battery contacts, designed to withstand the stresses of slide-mounted pistol use and harsh environments. "

keep coping stalker

>>64144394
I am sure they will have it back soon in top working order

>>64144408
You’re posting ChatGPT

I just ordered a Walther P22.
Anybody know if it comes with 1 or 2 magazines?

>>64144421
it's google ai, and it gets info from the internet, your free to post conflicting info vs just claiming "nobody knows" with no evidence

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/trijicon-rmr-has-left-the-chat.7211275/

"I bought 2 rmr type 2 from different sources. When the type 2 we’re first released.
Both lost the lense over the emitter almost immediately. Creating a massive fuzzy dot. Both were sent in for repair and have been trouble free ever since."

"The rmr type 2 was invented becuase sildes were killing rmrs. They had to be hardened. And they still can and do fail like anything else attached to a pistol slide."

The more I search the worse it gets for you, meanwhile you haven't proven a single fact this entire thread and just throw insults.

ironic your attempting to call me out desu

>>64144421
maybe you will believe trijicon

"The New RMR Type 2 has redesigned and upgraded electronics which have proven through extensive testing to properly function when mounted on slide ride pistol and/ or all other small arms. Also included in the new RMR Type 2 are button lock out mode and battery saving features, which make this optic ideal for concealed carry and law enforcement use. "

https://www.trijicon.com/frequently-asked-questions/category/rmr-faqs.

dumbfuck

>>64144433
>>64144444
Didn’t read

Never ever am I going to ever recommend a cyelee product due to how much of a clown you are

>>64144444
holy quints of JUSTICE
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

>>64144433
>>64144444
DUBS then QUINTS
never have I seen anyone more BTFO

GOD WILLS IT!

>>64144453
>gets schooled
>claims fraud
>literally posted on trijicons website
>gets buttmad and leaves

Yeah, I think I'm gonna keep buying Holosuns on the cheap and Trijicons when I need something for a carry.

Does anyone have the Hellcat Microcompact? I hear they're snappy but how unmanageable is this?

>>64140784
Based.

>>64144476
Still not going to buy chink shit. I call Chinese made shit just based on the fact that it’s Chinese for fun and look at how you respond. Any failures with the RMR are well known since it’s the most ubiquitous optic out there, the RMR was the first real pistol optic. RMRs have the largest sample size and today are still considered the standard for things to be compared to. Eat shit chink

I might go back on my word and start recommending the RMR Type 2 to anons even though at 500 dollars it’s fucking insanely overpriced.

>>64144138
stephen king looking ass nigga

>>64144424
One or two, its not enough for you.
(buy more mags<3)

>>64144500
hey look!
>>64143816
I give as little a fuck about what you buy and recommend as you do about actual facts

you got BTFO and god even made you post 00 to show that your worthless lol

>trijicon used cheap parts on their $600 optic and beta tested on customers

>trijicon has more failures than vortex and swampfox

hahahahahahahahahahaa

I shouldn't... but I want it.

>>64144514
Stoeger said your optic was shit and therefore it’s shit

Cyelee manchild

>>64144511
Yeah but I hear they're expensive, hope there's 2 in the box but Walther is chintzy

>>64144514
There's more Trijicons than there ever will be Cyelees on the market. You can only hope to have a failure count as high as Trijicon.

I got drunk last night and bought some VZ grips and I somehow managed to buy the most boring ones possible. Hope they end up looking better than I expect.

>>64144517
>239 with a stainless slide
I saw cabelas listed one for $400, didn't get the chance to snag it. feelsbadman

You will never be a Trijicon. You are a sad mockery of plastic and glass. No amount of make up will change the fact you are born in China. You will never become the premier duty optic. No amount of drop tests or submersion tests will change that. When you die your owners will use your dead name “Chink shit”. You will always be relegated to being budget and passed over for “worse” holosun optics.

>>64144589
The diamonds are very sharp I’m pretty sure if that’s the grip I’m thinking of, they actually have a warning about it

>>64144594
Guy has it listed for $500 obo, comes with 3 mags and hogue grips. Very tempted to throw him a $400 offer. Might just wait one more day since it's been up for a few already. I definitely don't need another compact da/sa 9mm since my p2000sk fills that role but damn I love these things too.

>>64144514
Kek

>>64144631
You could probably talk him down since you can see the holster wear on the side.

>>64138945 (OP)
Contemplating a revolver ccw. I know it's inferior to an auto in almost every category, but I can't help considering it. Seems more noble. I've been trying to put it to words but there's something about an autoloader that feels like asking for a fight. Revolver seems like the more peaceful talisman. Idk. Bunch of hokey crap I guess but still. Anyone here ccw a wheelgun? I'm eyeing a 2.5" ruger gp100 with the 7 round cylinder.

>>64144757
There is some merit to jury optics but autoloaders are so ubiquitous that I don’t think revolver vs autoloader will sway anyone but the most Fudd or antigun. “At least it wasn’t a military style handgun” or some shit.

Antigunners who brag about donating to to every gun and other groups can and will be placed on juries. Your lawyer can fight to have them be removed but if they don’t say anything about their true beliefs in the jury selection process the most insane anti gunner can be selected.

Carry whatever you want, but 7 shot .357s are fucking wide. The GP100 already is a wider frame IIRC and the 7 shot cylinder is slightly wider (or I’m retarded).

>>64144500
open your cans all the way

I cannot wait to pick up my Bodyguard 2.0 tomorrow and shoot it. Anyone else in these threads like shooting their handguns? Maybe not...

>*sips bottle of coors*
>yep 15 rounds is good and all but I just need 6
>and the 6 don't jam

>>64144819
I cannot take in the full power, I must sip

>>64144829
Is Coor’s Light a boomer drink?

Cz75b or Beretta 92fs as a first gun? Help me decide bros

>>64144909
I traded in my CZ P-09 for a Beretta M9A4.
The Beretta is more iconic culturally and proven over close to 50 years of military and police use.
They're both pretty equivalent.
I'd say the Beretta has a better trigger out of the box.
Also my CZ was plastic framed.

>>64144909
Both are good, get whichever one is cheaper or you think is cooler. You will figure out what you want for your second gun by seeing what this first gun lacks.

>>64144317
The GX4 is $194 and is like the 3rd best micro compact on the market.

>>64144127
Just found out Taurus is also running a great rebate on it. This things like $140 when you count the ammo being ~$1 a round. Theyre fucking giving these things away man.

It's over Predatorbros...

>>64144909
P09 nocturne if you want a red dot. Beretta 92 if it's just a range toy.

>>64144127
Taurusbros, we’re so back!

Talk me out of getting a mk23 for competition and larp. Ive read they are stupid accurate. Im in a tuesday night pistol leauge and i think it would be fun to show up with one when everyone else is shooting custom 1911s.
Also like the only gun tbe acro looks right on.

>>64144757
I carry an 80s snub nosed 38 Rossi but I also live in a low risk area. Carry whatever fulfils your program compliance & capability. I shoot primarily revolvers so it makes sense my carry is a revolver.
I don't think there's any perfect carry just whatever works best for your situation

>>64144909
92fs all the way
>>64144972
Might have to check that Taurus

>>64145129
>>64145129
>>64145129
>>64145129
>>64145129

>>64144909
92FS 100%. Comparing the two recently and I didnt like how tiny the CZ felt vs the 92, but thats all a preference thing and you gotta live with either for a bit before making a call imo. if you go for the 92 I recommend the commercial M9 version, guarantees you a straight frame which is just slightly more aesthetically appealing imo

im sure the same exists for CZ but with Beretta its super easy to pick up a spring kit or a full trigger kit and swap out parts to make the trigger feel really good as well. Its not that difficult at all

>>64144988
Maybe they can release a new model called the offender