Thread 64172471

CAR-15 Edition

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>>64172471 (OP)
Fuckoff furfags

A bb post a day keeps the A2 away (this taunt will summon him)

>>64172478
Leave pastebin alone

>>64172478
You've got 3 days to get your affairs in order.

Post your assault rifle 15 regrets
>Im mad I bought a gassy yhm t2 after trying someone’s flow through

>>64172505
I regret chopping my henk fsb. I don't even use that barrel anymore and it could have been a sick block 1 build

>>64172505
buying an eotech, streamlight, 2x rein 2.0s, and an m600u

>>64172804
This makes zero sense.

>>64172513
Relatively clean chop job though the bevels being uneven in depth bothers me
>>64172505
Not buying a carry handle upper before becoming content with my 2 rifles. I love the simplicity and aesthetic but have no reason to spend money on one for now.

>>64172505
I bought a strike eagle a long time ago.

Boy howdy, I sure wish A2 was here so I could ask him questions about SAW setups.

>>64172834
that was just the rough cut, I cleaned it up a bit after.
>>64173003
you are using a belt fed quick change barrel platform right?

>>64173016
I should have been more specific but I would getting a 249 so yes it is both of those things.

Mini-14?

Capitalism with Chinese-Trumpian Characteristics

>>64172471 (OP)
I was so happy to trade in my AWB Bushmaster for a real M4gery when the ban expired.

>>64172804
Picrel

>>64173067
AC-556K

GENTLEMEN what are the best ARs on the market today? Like the most advanced bullshit on it, latest whatever the fuck, and has both socom and comp shooters creaming their pants and guntubers can’t even get them bc the company won’t sponsor them

>>64173098
PSA

>>64173101
*rapes you*
Fucker

>>64173113
You’re too dumb to figure out how a zipper works.

>>64173048
a full fun 249?
>>64173067
stage II simulacrum

>>64173101
True
>>64173098
Mine

>>64173127
Any semi auto beltfed can be full fun if you believe in urself.

>>64172498
>leave cancerous retard alone!

>>64173098
no such thing. there are standards used by the military, there is the civilian market always pushing those standards by 'fixing' issues, but nothing set in stone as the cream of the crop

>>64173224
>Israel first

Unlike you, /hg/ never earned the pistol action videos. Happy LE Tuesday, /arg/!

>>64173224
That’s fine then, what’s at the top level for military and what’s at the top level for the civilian market? Do they intersect in areas? I’m mostly gauging how ARs have changed from the end of GWOT to now
>>64173231
So every American politician?

>>64173224
>but nothing set in stone as the cream of the crop
Counterpoint.

>>64173236
>So every American politician?
Yeah

>>64173235
i have no idea what is happening here. Carjacking gone wrong?

>>64173245
Are we all getting hi point ARs?

>>64173236
https://clonerifles.com/theclones
start researching
>top level for civilians
not worth explaining to a tourist

>>64173250
>inb4 the stripped Hi-point lower becomes the new meta for DIY builds, replacing shouldering the cloak that Anderson's poverty ponies left behind.

>>64173127
Idk if i should do a 10/22 like this or trick out a charger
>>64173245
Thats not a bad looking roll mark actually

>>64173259
It’s not like you’re doing anything else with your day

>>64173271
its more like 'top level for civilians' is highly subjective and starts flame wars usually so i'd rather not engage.

>>64173269
>Thats not a bad looking roll mark actually
Genuinely looks better than the dorky Knight's roll mark, and the ultra-cringe spider/skull logo that Spike's Tactical put on their lowers.

>>64173287
Ah I see, fair enough. I mainly ask it as a bait question but I’ve also been out of the loop for a few years and stuck in my ways, so I just wanna see what’s been going on at a glance so I can research further

>>64173299
Spikes lowers are kino you have bad taste

I just want an old school bushmaster lower

is 96.5cm /38 inches cm with butt stock closed too long for a AR15?
I have a choice to buy a short 12.5 cm or long 21 cm can for the same price but the long one will make the total 38 inches in length with the butt stock fully closed.

>>64173388
Same. Maybe ill fix this >>64172834
issue and get two birds stoned at once by buying a trade in

>>64172505
Buying a carbine tube and stock for a 20" rifle
Looks wrong, feels wrong

>>64173263
>>64173250
theyre like $90 for their lowers lol
ill stick to andersons from gunjoker for $40

>>64173455
>theyre like $90 for their lowers lol
They're barely on the market, give it a couple years.
The price will go down as the production rate increases.

>>64173388
They're pretty cool

https://www.sako.global/article/press-release-sako-arg-rifles

finnish piston AR (and gas gun)

>>64173235
That’s you after you get reported for having an illegally drilled lower
That is unless you’re an SOT
Care to post any form of proof you’re legally allowed to own that lower?

>>64173522
Are you identifying yourself as an atf agent by requesting this information?

>>64173522
Why would anyone post proof here? Fuck off. You don’t even have a gun.

>>64173522
kys

>>64172505
Everything I buy is low end of mid and I don't get to show off here

>>64173485
Is it any good? It’s sako so it’s probably great

>documents everyone’s rifles
>machine gun lower he posted pictures of himself drilling
Fed or schizo, call it

>>64173485
Any idea when it'll be available in the US?

>>64173585
Schizo, he claims to have started a 7 month shitposting campaign in hg because 1 single post of his was deleted by the janny

>>64173585
>>64173595
This is what he was talking about when he says “you trespassed me”
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64077493/#64086788

>>64173585
He's just a cool guy

I don't give a shit about pb's hg drama and I never will. I wish death upon every schizo except him. I will cleanse this general, this board, of nice shoes and chinless despots. I will raze their lands, bear the lamentations of their women, and raise their children as my own. The sun will never set inside my closed third eye.

>>64173583
>>64173590
no eye deer. no...eye... deer. but it would be cool to have.

I fucking knew something was not right with that guy and I knew that with ZERO context, going on nothing but his writing style

I can smell schizos and fags and glowies just through their text, what do i do with this power?

>>64173641
I mean sako makes really good hunting rifles, but my only concern would be with piston ARs in general, as I recall a few having issues running with certain types of ammo. Didn’t the 416 have issues running steel cased?

>>64173651
He writes like a psychopath and takes pleasure in manipulating people.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to pick up on this.

>>64173670
Ok but I knew it from just one glance at his posts. I choose to give myself some credit on this.

>>64173669
Never shot a 416, but my lmt piston and pof piston run Russian 223 just fine. Haven't tried mag dumping it though ever, so there's more testing I'd like to do

I skip any post that is more than 5 sentences long

>>64173675
It’s a 6th sense I believe I have it as well

>>64173678
Gotcha, I heard somewhere 416s don’t run certain types of ammo reliably. I’ve been doing a bunch of autistic research to potentially get a new AR, and I’ve been trying to weigh the differences between piston and DI. So if you could tell me what your experience has been that would help a ton. Especially the LMT since that’s a more Gucci one.

>>64173098
The Next Generation of the M4 | The SOLGW MK1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HAR7YCD3sY

>>64173694
You aren’t going to get a 416 so idk why you’re looking them up.
Just buy a normal AR and move on with your life

>>64173669
How much of extant .223 is steel cased
Not a lot

>>64173694
in my limited experience with piston guns vs DI, i would just go with DI. DI is softer shooting, lighter handling. the LMT MRP system has other benefits, monolithic rail, rapid barrel swap, but im not exactly hoarding MRP barrels. i think the pof piston was trying to chase the 416, but it doesnt really have the benefits of the MRP. still a nice gun, will run no matter what (apparently)

>>64173670
>haha I’m manipulating people
>wait why does everyone hate me! Stop talking shit about me!
Such a huge faggot

>>64173762
He manipulated me into liking him by posting a fun weekly thread tradition

>>64173762
I know a dude just like this. He is a friend of my close friend, and dealing with this guy has actually forced me to reevaluate how i look at my close friend. That's how bad it is
>blocked me out of nowhere like 25 times
>came into our group chat, left and begged to be invited back like 20 times
>at one point asked for privileges and made himself a permanent invite so he can leave and come back whenever he wanted
>wished death upon his normie asian women coworkers many times (he is an asian incel)
>blocked him finally
>he starts trying to be chummy with me and begging my close friend to have me unblock him

Someone should take these people out back and put them out of their misery

i think parasocial relationships are bad for the ar15 safespace conglomerate

>>64173735
Not 416s specifically but DI guns in general. Plus MR556s are around and I could probably save up a bit the get one.
>>64173742
Yeah that makes sense, a quick change barrel is a crazy feature for a rifle though lmao. Like it’s cool but idk how useful

>>64173778
Sounds like fishy

>>64173803
>Like it’s cool but idk how useful
gov. contract bait, but not many countries have caught on
Like i said, for actual shooting, DI is the best, thats why im making an urgi rn

>>64173689
What do we do with this power

>>64173827
Honestly I might be falling into the same boat. After looking at all the trends and developments with ARs and trying to find the best one, the URGI does seem like the best overall carbine package and probably the best bang for your buck right now. Especially for what I’m looking for, handiness, accuracy, ballistics, and suppressor ready

>>64173794
I come here to make memes and laff and post my shitrods and shitbull

>>64173878
Same except the shitbull part.

>>64173871
you should check out sig while you're at it

>>64173585
He's so retarded, my guns live in his head rent free and he still added them to his collage. Either he's a fed or he's got mental issues.

>>64173884
Same but also confessing my love for a dead woman

>>64172471 (OP)
Can my Daewoo join?

>>64172505
Ah,, where to begin.. Yes, first it was not getting a KAC when there was a local dealer down the street who eventually quit being a dealer. Trying to make my 16" builds look like 14.5s with shorter rails, vfg placement etc. Getting two YHM turbos instead of just getting an RC2, which I eventually did, now i feel like the yhm's are unwanted neets living in my basement. Not shooting more pistol. The A5 system, especially the A5, smooths out recoil at the cost of sending the dot into orbit and having the buffer do a full orbit around the earth before the dot returns to where I want it. Blowing through 300 rounds in 20 minutes at the range when ammo was 24 cpr. Wait no I don't regret that one at all. The coffin of recoil springs, grips, and VFGs. Convincing myself the plx-c was good instead of just getting an atacr. Yes..ah yes,

>>64173651
I'm ready to watch his crash out, got some popcorn chips ima make nachos with
>>64173860
Weaponized autism

>>64172505
I don't regret it but having my only AR be a 00s M4gery abomination inspired build for nostalgia's sake has me looking at some soulless mlok uppers that are much lighter and gassed better.

>>64173891
I don’t really want to support sig desu

>>64173909
> Trying to make my 16" builds look like 14.5s with shorter rails
I did this too because I wanted to avoid in and welds I regret it as well.

>>64173731
Only care about the textured rail desu but the armad barrel sounds kewl. It's like how at those shitty toll road rest stops you can only get a fucking big Mac meal for $20 and no single items

>>64173930
desu I’d rather just use rail covers at that point because at least you’d get some heat protection on top of the extra grip

>>64173806
i would kms if i was asian but yeah that checks out tbdesu
>>64173878
>>64173884
same but my cat
>>64173895
anon was right about the AI part, you could generate some kino videos with it as well as the ai chat stuff

>>64173947
Oh yeah and Railscales. I regret wasting money on those especially that piece of shit mlok karve that always came loose and they asked me for video instead of taking me at my word.

>>64173972
I’ve used a karve for years on several guns with out any issues. Are you sure you had the mlok nut oriented correctly? Or maybe the thread locker they come with already on the bolt was worn away on yours? You can use blue loctite

>>64173972
>railscales

>>64173983
>karve
wat

>>64174013
railscales karve hand stop.

>>64173983
it was prob the screw idk i chucked it in the trash a long time ago

>>64173970
>anon was right about the AI part
Maybe some day. I'm just not schizo enough yet

>>64173583
I'm sure the quality will be fine and I think I saw that they are already in the process of importing in a 16" clone of the Swedish(or Finnish I can't remember) volunteer training rifle or whatever, it's just a 16" DI AR. My problem with it is that they are gonna charge top dollar for an AR with a heavy barrel profile which is retarded. Id of been fine with a gov profile but for the price these are gonna be I was really expecting some kind of modern taper profile barrel. Yuros are just retarded though and think weight saved in the AR platform can be put into a heavier barrel because they terminally live in the 80s and don't know what real combat means. Id of even been happy with a medium profile barrel

>>64174060
Kling AI and Veo 3 are impressive

>>64173651
Huh?

worst thread ever?

>>64173871
Oh yeah to add to this, while I hold that the URGI seems really good for what it is, I have been wanting to recreate the m27 at some point, so if anyone has a BRN-4 please share experiences with it. Or if it has any major issues or differences with the HK stuff

>>64174199
Nah theres been worse

>>64174199
vicious's julie arc was worse

>>64174208
proof?

>>64174295
Mini-14?

>>64173923
why not

>>64174199
No!!!
This is a great thread!!!!

>>64174295
Trust me

>>64174328
based

>>64174328
Just not a fan of how the m17 and NGSW trials went, I found they were pretty shady in how they went about it. Plus I don’t like how they responded to criticism of the p320

>>64174246
>julie arc
>arc

you dont just transition and then call it an arc. hes forever a fucking tranny as far as im concerned

>>64174348
That's fucking retarded. You should celebrate people overcoming the evils of temptation and degenerecy.

Like obviously we all are obligated to make fun of him for it, but people can rise above their shit.

>>64174353
what a pathetic middling hand washing take, i wouldnt expect less (or more) from a tripfag. dont tell me how to think about trannies. thanks buddy, keep it rocking.

>>64174360
rockberts

>>64174366
Cram it!

>>64174375
love that nigga like u wudnt belieb

>>64174384
People get so mad at him.

>>64173485
Upon reflection: I like greenfifteen. The handguard+Magpul+adapter is a tastefully visually harmonious, yet conceptually dated design. It's a gun that would sit fine in the BF4 armory as an M4A1/Urgi stand-in, which came out 2013 when this visual code was peak IFYKYK

>>64172804
I have and like both.

>>64174412
stfu homo

>>64174441
based

>>64174412
Conceptually dated? In comparison to what?

>>64174412
Weird to get a (You) from klinefelter again. Reminds me of old times.

>>64172513
I missed out on the henks drop. This triggers my autism desu

>>64172505
i regret 6mm arc

>>64174360
You can do what ya want I'm just saying you are stupid.

>>64174541
Means nothing from a tranny lover

>>64174199
That's every Thursday/Friday/Saturday.

>>64174541
Glad you're monitoring the situation
>>64174450
Idk I don't feel like defending any of that. I absolve myself
>>64174441
I just got back from walking my dogs (taking them to the dog park)
My shitbull has made leaps and bounds of progress. My diarrhea and I have been hypothesizing it was neurosis that made us project attributes she (shitbull) did not have

More ammo. More magazines. More dreams deferred. More bills paid. More projects gathering dust. Been trying to find time to find a new """"innawoods """ shooting spot near me as well as a decent range within an hour drive. Plenty of options. Mostly bad! When will I get to building my new workbench!?! Will I update my homebrew blueprint? Will I MAKE a blueprint and not just wing it like last time? We will all learn together these coming days!

>>64174613
Klinefelter Julie Viscous Mucus you sure do change rapidly here and there.

>>64174624
ACTIVATION PHRASE RONALD MCDONALD

>>64174613
Did that shartfire 60 rounder work good?

Hey /arg/, does anyone know of any GOOD forward charging AR uppers? The ones ones I hear about are Foxtrot Mike, which I’ve heard mixed things on, and the Bilson Arms one which is pump action but of which I can find basically no personal reviews outside of some brownie youtube channels?

>>64174613
I was actually really interested in to why it was conceptually dated

>>64174643
for a single mag dump? Yes. But since I didn't make a sick webm of it, it never happened. I will report if/when it malfunctions
>>64174707
Imo it feels like if it was unveiled 10 years ago it would have been considered very modern, whereas now it's just reaching par. Dated not as in obsolete but as in mundane. I wouldn't really say... anything good about it at all.. but the Nig Spear represents a "vision" for new tactics and strategy that is probably wrong and retarded, but again, it represents an attempt at something new. So it feels almost mechanically/weaponicistically conservative. Dated as in established. Idk it's like coming out with an improved breed of horse with a new 107 HP engine or some shit while we were still fumbling with what would become the Ford model T. The SIG spear is not that but an attempt as a whole for the industry to find a new paradigm shift that might push the game forward


Also aesthetically it feels exactly the same for all the same reasons. It looks like my PSA upper. Like a Kac upper. Like a BCM upper. The exact same? No. Performance wise? Not even close. But they're all visually coded similarly. It's not innovative, but that's okay! Improving and refining a design, visually, mechanically, and logistically and that's amazing too and will pay dividends. But until someone comes up with something new: m4a1s on mars

Range Report -
black hills 77gr OTM kind of mid. Extremely similar velocity to the (old) AAC 77gr OTM but it did group well, around 1.5 MOA best 5 round group. Federal gold medal went at an outright leisurely pace basically 7.62x39 tier but admittedly pretty accurate and consistent. Best 5 round was about 1.25 MOA. Probably would save the gold medal stuff for 18"+ but would buy more if you wanted super accurate ammo.
Black hills don't know if I see the hype. For the price you can get NAS3 which while not groundbreaking is objectively better.
data -
>5.56 BLACK HILLS 77GR OTM - 13.9"
AVG 2,613.5 FPS
SD 16.6
ES 56.4
KE 1,167.6 FT/LBS

>.223 FEDERAL GOLD MEDAL 77GR OTM - 13.9"
AVG 2,488.5 FPS
SD 10.5
ES 35.3
KE 1,058.6 FT/LBS

>>64174658
>forward charging
for what pvrpose?

>>64174767
M4A1s and *M2s* on mars

>>64174767
Good explanation thank you. I kind of agree and see what you mean. For all intents and purposes this is a 416/m4a1 (depending on GP or DI) with mlok. I’m sure for most countries still rocking quad rails this is an upgrade but you’re right in that it’s a decade too old to be cutting edge.
I also agree on the nig but I think we can both agree that it’s a step in the wrong direction. But a dressed up AR180 able to handle high pressures could lead to something else down the road I guess, if it actually gets ordered in large quantities

>>64174864
>it’s a step in the wrong direction
Agreed. I would love to see the FN LICC ISW with that kind of high pressure technology. Basically I would love to see a competent company take an earnest whack at the concept

>>64174836
>for what pvrpose?

Mostly because it’s way more convenient on a closed bolt if for instance the bolt gets dropped early on a reload or if I’m trying to go fast it’s easier to make a gross movement than a fine one. Also because it’s just far more fun but that’s ancillary.

>>64174505
The fat case head necessitating the retarded skinny bolt is what killed it.

>>64172505
BCM MK2 BFH upper

Pinterest sends me emails recommending pictures of both AR15s and also women with their feet out and I'm here for it.

What was this guy's name?

>>64175043
Jeff Dunham

>>64175043
That's Mike

>>64175043
A2 "Skelly" Wuggenstein

>>64175043
unc

Guys, I decided to compromise. Hopefully the bullshit is behind us now

>>64172505
Should have purchased a SOCOM URG from Brownells [pictured] and put a TA31F / TA31RCO-M4CP on it, now I'm stuck with crosshairs and a pencil barrel that prevents me from taking advantage of it

>>64175043
Curtis Yarvin

>>64175061
>>64175063
>>64175064
>>64175067
I was looking for fake answers only

>>64175043
Mr. drip

>>64175081
Mike Hawk

>>64175081
Okay okay okay. Seriously his name is Mike Wazowski

>>64175043
trevor from gta

>>64175081
IT'S ME! DIO!

>>64175043
Nobody knows his real name but he goes by Ash around these parts

Back to the ange old question, what are some good optics for a 20” govt rifle? Ideally around 1k, but I’m looking mainly for something capable at most ranges. Nothing too long distance, the barrel isn’t free floated, but ideally effective out to 300m

>>64175114
Iron sights

>>64175114
the ACOG is the only correct option. the TA31RCO A4 is calibrated for M855 out of a 20" barrel.

>>64175114
Sneedo 2-10

>>64175123
more like nigger snake

>>64175120
I currently have that. The detachable sights are excellent but I would like an optic
>>64175122
True.. but I’m just weighing my options
>>64175123
Have been considering the credo but the 1-6 seems more appealing. I’d like to meet in the middle with a 1-8 but I’d imagine by then the lower and higher end magnification suffer more

>>64173379
I’ve got one of the spider lowers during the second term Obama panic buy, still holding up nicely. Admittedly I did do the color fill myself.

62gr green tips out of a 20” barrel penn lv4 btw

>>64175138
Idk about that but the 20” is a very capable rifle

>>64175138
the fuck you talking about?

>>64175114
"In Fallujah, Iraq Marines with ACOG-equipped M16A4s created a stir by taking so many headshots that until the wounds were closely examined, some observers thought the insurgents had been executed." Venola, Richard (December 2004). "Iraq: Lessons From The Sandbox". Combat Arms. 1 (1). Guns & Ammo: 22–30. ISSN 0810-8838.

Marines with 20" inch ARs and ACOGs in Fallujah (!) got so many headshots people thought they were committing war crimes. That tells you all you need to know. Both peak performance and peak sovl.

>>64175133
Good luck finding a quality LPVO for only 1000, pardner

>>64175129
Schizo Fishy

>>64175137
Heh

>>64175138
Well done reiterating why steel plates aren't a substitute for ceramic

>>64175147
putting 5.56 into a niggas head, stupid simple shit. only retards make this into a difficult job

>>64175156
20" barrel
fixed magnification giga bright optic
boom, your soldiers are killing machines

>>64175147
This is also true. The acog is effective and i trained and used it. I probably will get one but I don’t wanna be locked into one choice, yk?
>>64175150
That’s the thing with LPVOs. They’re undoubtably very effective and capable scopes but they are pretty expensive. Then again I don’t need the best glass quality on earth for a combat rifles, but something effective and won’t break immediately
>>64175156
True but I imagine the jump from irons to an optic made that task that much easier

i found it, you worthless neegs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1cyoYm4WQU

>>64173970
I'm more surprised to see that barrel shroud than the fur kit. Is that one of those Colt Modulars? What's the optic

>>64175168
>something effective and won’t break immediately
I suppose that would be the VCOG but you'll have to ask Fishy about his because he's the one with the most experience AFAIAA

>>64173893
Almost as if though the submissions were open. You /hg/ tourists are fucking stupid

>>64175168
Elcan 1-3-9. jk dont get that, its terrible

>>64173899
Daewoo? more like Gaewoo.

>>64175230
not a barrel shroud retard

>>64175230
Plus the vcog is 2000 dollars. I could get a better rifle for that money. Not that spending a lot on a scope is bad but it is almost double what I’m looking at
>>64175237
Is it really? Zamn elcan what the hell

>>64175291
just get an acog + rmr and quit making this complicated
https://youtu.be/tA0zAJODXdc

>>64175312
I know but I like to weigh my options before a buy. Keeps me from making impulse buys, you know?

>>64175319
>Keeps me from making impulse buys
yeah I'm a cheap bastard I get it.

>>64175319
The other anon actually already answered your question. I am not sure what you're looking for. You have an actual optic that is meant to pair with your barrel, you get that one.

>>64175321
Plus it makes for better conversation than tripfaggery
>>64175327
Well yeah but it is fairly old by now so I like to see if there are better optics for that rifle nowadays

>>64175337
Eotech vudu 3-9.

>>64175337
unfortunately no

i mean yeah, there is. theres a shit load of cheap ass gimmicks if youre into that

theres also new optics that cost as much as a used car, if youre into that.

but genuine advancements?

hmm

no

wtf is with these newfags and their retarded questions ITT? Did everyone forget about lurk moar? There is a 1 year probationary period before you are allowed to make your first post. And kek at the faggot who thinks the URGI is the best option. The same fucking company makes a far superior upper for the civilian market. The URGI is for wishiserved losers (AKA cloners)

>>64175355
My bad man I’ll remember to discuss namefag drama next time

>>64175355
yeah the supdut is the one to get but I have shill fatigue and dont want to get yelled at because of the PA "sale"

>>64172471 (OP)
I have a Colt AR-15 SP1 from the early 1970s, and an AR-7 that I have never fired, my Dad and I bought it the week I turned 18. And a 500 round brick of .22LR and spend around $200 for everything.

>>64175365
very cool rifle

>>64175355
You dont have to clone an URGI. but mlok rail + 14.5" DI is the way to go, no BUIS, no light, no sling, no fuckin NOTHING, just a dot on a riser. Buh buh buh BASTE

>>64175365
Shitty picture of the worst AR-7. Henry makes really nice versions.

>>64175365
cool
>>64175388
my pap tried to shill me this when they came out with new production years ago, i thought it was neat for survivalist or backpack hunting but i told him id rather just have a 10/22

>>64175405
damn he's really mailing it in now huh

>>64175365
best looking gun itt

>>64175287
ns

I fucking love mlok . Quad rails.. just... Just frigging WHY? Oh yeah, you need all those rails huh? Don't make me laugh. Not to mention it hurts my hands like a freaking lot

>>64175487
Bends your mlok

>>64175381
yeah thats why you get the superduty, it has a better barrel and gas port. The URGI is a downgrade.

>>64175551
Yeah I don't fuck with geissele like that so personally I'll pass on their Ford super duty

until my MK111 upper arrives i must use my old 604
its not as bad as it looks i swear

>>64175405
wrong rooster lil bro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAE6Il6OTcs

>>64175365
Lucky man; the SP-1 is my all-time favorite AR-15 and I would love to have one over any MK18 or M4 etc etc

>>64175580
now post your actual one

Is this ok? Wouldn't upward rail deflection mess up the zero?

>>64175591
what do you mean

I'm more of a nutshell nigga

https://youtu.be/G23iLGhh9lo?si=uMf7aVXxKM1JD37o

>>64175595
Is it touching or is it just super duper close?

>>64175595
Its fine. the handguard won't move in the few thousands of gap there

>>64175610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nco_kh8xJDs

>>64175611
>>64175614
Not my picture. Mine touches - can't slide a sheet of paper between the mount and rail - so I have it further back.

>>64175619
Sumn ain't rite wicho shih
Looks like you fucked up the painfully simple task of assembling an AR

>>64175642
No, it's just a [spoiler]UTG mount[/spoiler]. Well made, but not the best design.

>>64175645
Ah nah

End it family

>>64175658
Larue barrel and UTG mount. Like god intended

>>64175583
I'm 23 don't lil bro me, lil bro
https://youtu.be/F5nEKVcC4g8

>>64175713
You barely finished high school and you already donned the mask of the blighted, what happened in your childhood champ? Daddy rape you or kill himself?

>>64175731
>hes 17 years and 1826 days you sick fuck

>>64175713
noiseslop, can't even be called music

I find it really odd how LMT doesnt include a fsb on their piston barrels, if they just gave up on having their rail cover the piston block. like why?

>>64175745
people uniroically would rather listen to a coked out junkie mumble over guitar riffs than synth tunes constructed in fl studio over your bluetooth comtac IIIs at the gun range shooting your ar15
baka
https://youtu.be/qYce_42Qbbk
>>64175750
gee i wonder why

>>64175750
Yeah that's really weird.

>>64175757
And that's why you're a tastelet that fell for the furry meme, have sex young buck (with a woman)

whats with all these newfags? isnt summer over?
id never be caught dead with a furry helmet
thanks for calling me young thoughbeit

Shut up nigger

Any Labor Day sales?

>>64175792
lol dude if you are really 23 years old and think you aren't young you are a certified fucking retard and have some sort of self image issue

>>64175792
i'm going to level with you
i been here for 6 years i dont know who you are and i dont give a fuuuck
thats my most effective psyops against tripfags and regulars
this is an anonymous website nigga, my working memory of posters is absolutely turned off

>>64175792
I'd fuck up a sub as big as my body right now.

>>64175793
yeah
wont link them though
>>64175806
i got some spaghetti-Os and cheezits for this weekend shooting trip with my ar15 gonna zero the arken and test out those tipped match kings anon linked but i ate half the box already

>>64175821
>arken
which one

>>64175824
4-16 lpeepoom4 i dont remember and im not getting out of bed to look

>>64175821
Half a box is like one serving.

Id like to exert my supernatural ability to figure out profile posters
>>64175821
This dude is a bottom. Prob wishes to find a top here. He has little else on the mind. The gun is for fashion. Generally harmless other than that.

>>64175832
6 crackers is one serving and thats like each time i reach into the box, so i think my tummy is just a big pound of “cheese” and i cant figure out an ar15 for this feel

>>64175839
cram it fundie!

>came into an AR with a 9-ish inch barrel and a 1/9 twist
Good news is it seems to work okay. However, how do I maximize its potential considering its short as shit barrel?

>>64175844
Those numbers are like a skill check you level up and you can ignore them.

>>64175861
make an ARP ghetto blasta

>bought mine two months ago
I hope some anon benefits from this and seizes the opportunity that I blew.

>>64173235
Just a nigga moment

Anyone have any feedback on those AR15 bullpup conversion chassis? Seems like something fun to dick around with but for the price I might as well just buy a new gun

I got early access to the new aimpoint specs. Finally a circle dot and shake awake. Also night vision compatible. It’s a duty, hopefully the t3 with those features follows soon.

>>64176119
Some are more expensive than others, honestly they’re a decently good time, don’t personally own one but my buddy has the Scy one and it works better than you’d expect, I’m tempted to do a dedicated build for one in the future. I’m a sucker for a bullpup though so take with a grain of salt

>>64176158
>shake awake
god dammit

>>64176158
So an aimpoint duty with a circle dot and shake awake? garbage

>>64175114
Irons and ACOG are your only options.

>>64176202
That just means the new t3 and p3 will have circle dots. Shake awake I’m not fond of, but holochuds can’t seem to shut the fuck up about it as if it’s some super special feature only China can make. I doubt the t3 and p3 will have it. But then again who knows. The only other duty grade micro (4t pro) has shake awake.

>>64176294
I don't care about circle dots, I'd just turn it off. but I don't trust shake awake.

>>64176302
Just because you don’t care about it doesn’t mean some people don’t. It genuinely helps with astigmatism and nv performance. It’s also scientifically proven to be faster for acquiring targets in close quarters. If you can have it, there’s no reason not to.

>>64176312
that's why I said I'd just turn it off. I don't think it's bad, I just don't care for it.

>>64176158
lol so it's just the same as everything sig or holosun makes now.
>shake awake
you literally don't need to turn it off
>nv compatible
always has been
>replacing dial with buttons
huge down grade
>multi reticle
I get why some people want the big circle but I think outside of niche applications it does more harm than good and its inclusion likely led to the replacing of dial with buttons.
Overall, the T2 is still the one to get

>>64176302
>but I don't trust shake awake.
Same. When the battery life of modern red dots is 3-5 YEARS why would I need that instead of just leaving it on all the time?

>>64175899
Doesn’t post the website

>>64176312
Yeah. We figured this out with aperture sights hundreds of years ago. Human eyes naturally find the center of circles more intuitively than single dots. I don’t know why it’s taken aimpoint 50 years to get on this train. almost every scope reticle since the beginning of time has had an outer ring.

>>64176312
>my 2moa dot is too messy with astigmatism so let's make it 65moa instead
Hmmmm
>helps nv performance
this is subjective at best. T2 works far better for NV IME precisely because it's a small dot which obscures less of the already difficult to see target.
>scientifically proven to be faster
that's pure fucking bullshit. how fast one acquires a target is purely a product of their training.

>>64176324
Like I said they probably just caved to the holochud crowd and wanted to stop losing contracts to police departments for retarded features they didn’t need. I have no other way to explain it. I doubt the next military optics will have that as a feature.
>>64176321
Buttons are fine and it’s easier to switch in and out of nv with them. The only thing I don’t care about is shake awake. But, you have retarded consumers who are convinced that it’s a necessary feature so I can’t blame them for including it.

>>64176345
I hope it can be disabled

>>64176340
I mean it’s been proven for a long time that apertures and circle reticles are more effective but I guess your anecdotal evidence is more valuable. The outer ring helps folks with astigmatism see the center dot with less deformation.

>>64176158
The extra height these have sucks. You can't use the regular unity mount to get 2.26". It's a total dud.

>>64176312
>Astigmatism
Doesn't matter with red dots
>NV performance
Man I sure love having a fuck off huge reticle blooming and obscuring my target.
>Muh .01 faster rifle bill drill
Kek
At least there will be plenty of cheap T2s on the market when all of the plebbitors ditch them for the new hype.
>>64176302
The shake and bake bullshit stopped working on my DPP recently and then Glock stopped selling the COA guns right as I was getting ready to buy one to replace the carry setup it was on.

>>64176360
They’re not deigned to be mounted on unity risers. They’re deigned to be a single package sold to law enforcement for patrol rifles. It’s like complaining that the h2 doesn’t have night vision comparability

>>64176345
You don't want it to be easy to switch in and out of nv because that also means it's easy to accidentally change.
Your setting adjustments should be intentional.
Additionally, it's far easier to adjust the brightness on a dial when wearing gloves.
Also, how hard is it to turn a dial?
>I want max brightness
turn dial all the way back.

I imagine most professional end users would switch to vis laser if they needed to switch and wouldn't be messing with buttons or dials on their optic

>>64176371
It does matter with red dots. Don’t talk about things if you don’t have experience with them. Yeah because operators have been complaining about eotech nvg performance for years right? Some dude on arg knows better than them.

>>64176375
Either way it's a downside you should consider when buying these if you ever want to move away from the stock mount.

>>64176358
so why does literally every winning professional competitive shooter use a small single dot and not a large circle?

>>64176387
>comparing world champion shooters to average cops and cities.ens who don’t have 30,000 down range.
Yeah that makes sense. And probably because it occludes their next target transition not because it isn’t better or faster for the first round from draw. Winning a real life gunfight isn’t about shooting 10 6 inch plates in under 30 seconds.

>>64176358
What the fuck did you smoke this morning? Single dot is better. Ring is "fine" on rifles, but not for pistols.

>>64175899
>https://armament.com/
>$1,811.33
There are not many manufacturers of elcans.

>>64176325
>>64176401

>>64176384
>Appeal to authority
Why don't you try again but this time with an actual argument.
I've been wearing glasses since I was two months old partially due to astigmatism.
I had an eokek and it was shit. Not a worthwhile improvement over my Aimpoints.
Anything within red dot range requires speed over precision and therefore it doesn't matter if the dot isn't perfectly crisp. Anything further and the magnifier behind the dot crispens it up.
But go off with your no shoots opinions.

>>64176397
Then you can use a single dot, cumhorn. You have the accuracy of a diabetic Parkinson’s patient anyway.

>>64176312
the optic housing already is the outer ring

>>64176406
Eotech is a holographic reticle, it’s not good for astigmatism. You’re trying to compare a holographic reticle to a red dots with a circle dot. Single dots bloom to 12moa for me which is not great even for 25-50 yard shots. My circle dot does not bloom. As soon as I switch to single dot it blooms. But hey you’re the guy who wears glasses, right? Yeah just carry a fuckass huge magnifier so you can use your dot past 50 tho. lol

>>64176395
>it's not better or faster
>the people who's sole objective is to be better and faster use it nearly exclusively
Oh
>winning a real life gun fight isn't about being faster and more accurate
Thanks for illustrating who this optic is intended for

>>64176408
>Look here sonny if your gonna be talking smack post groups.

The ring is prone to actually slowing you down, as you still need to center on target and the visual noise isn't helping. It also isn't any more helpful then just knowing your holds with a dot alone up close, you still need to know your holds using the ring.

>>64176426
Now you’re just shifting goalposts. I said it’s not better or faster for your average gunfight. It may be better or faster for people who train extensively and shoot at static targets on a flat range. Eyes instinctively focus on the center of circles. If that wasn’t true, we wouldn’t use aperture sights on virtually everything. Grow up.

>>64176438
>dot focused shooting
I've heard enough

>smslaser wants 320 for their new LAM with no white light
they're getting cocky

Everyone took stupid pills this morning.

>Eokek: Not as reliable as general reputation implies. Big weight, big optic, very comfy to use.
>Aimpoint: Is fine.
>Dot vs circle dot: Single dot better. Circle fine on rifles, less useful as familiarity with your tools increases along with your skill.
>Eye autism: Big gay and solutions for one person might not work for another.
>Accusations of noshoots: mean nothing without posting OC.

>>64176438
>dot focused shooting
Shut up.

>>64176456
General reputation is delamination for the eotech

>>64176460
Here it is, sure. At wide its "cOmBAt TeSTED JoKo APrOvED" (very effective for Blue on Blue engagments)

>>64176445
Once again, I never said that. You’re just gaslighting now. The human eye’s centering reflex doesn’t mean you focus on the center dot, it means your eye naturally finds the center of the reticle without having to focus on it. You’re actually proving my point. But go ahead and find some scientific data that says that dots are quicker and more effective than circles for aiming. Let’s ask the Olympic shooting team first.
>>64176456
>I have to post oc in order to prove that your 80moa group is subpar
Ok cumhorn

>>64176421
>Blooms to 12 MOA
Maybe time to find a different hobby lol
Oh man eotech G33 so big so heavy it could never fit in my pocket where it lives 99% of the time because I can still hit steel @400 without it.

>>64176456
>everyone
It’s one guy

>>64176401
But plenty of people who sell elcans right anon?

>>64176467
>I never said that
>Eyes instinctively focus on the center of circles.
I have to be arguing with that long haired disgusting freak. No one else comes close to this level of retardation

>>64174836
What barrel is the 13.9. Ammo and barrels can be funny, my old stainless 1:8 5r barrel with 9k on it that keyholes with 55gr will still shoot MOA with old AAC 77gr, even Hornady frontier 68gr. THen I can take that same ammo and run it through a quality button cut 1:7 CL and maybe get 1.5 MOA if I'm lucky. You should try 69gr if you haven't yet. Good intel btw

>>64176452
Why is that bad? They made it waterproof and use a VCSEL illuminator.

>>64176467
Pffff, if yer so cocky why don't ya go down range and hold still.

>>64175043
He goes by the name Stank.

If your targets look like clean then you didn’t push yourself in training.

>>64176486
Yes they focus on the center of the circle, your target and where the bullet is going to hit. What the fuck are you focusing on when you shoot? Holy fuck you’re a mental midget. “But I see past the target and don’t focus my eyes when I shoot im a real 0p3r8r”

>>64175713
That more running/music. here swhat I listen to when bench shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHI1KUNKtI

>>64176494
>a shotgun
>in 2025
>threatening to kill me on an online basket weaving chat
smfh

>>64176504
Is he supposed to just roll his target around in the mud or something now? You people are insufferable.

>>64176505
Oh

>>64176504
My target looks clean because I keep fucking missing it.

>>64174958
you're set on "forward" charging and not side charging?
FM uppers are kind of a meme, it's a whole different bufferless system that won't have the durability or parts compatibility of milspec.
Never heard of Bilson before but having a giant spring loaded pump right under your handguard is retarded and seems like a good way to knock your bolt out of battery.
Side chargers are kind of a meme too but at least you can stick to mostly milspec (no not you BCA). Gibbz uppers still use normal milslep BCG's, with the exception of a different cam pin, and can be had with forward assist & dust cover.

>>64176509
Nah thats all 5.56 boyo.

Huh, if your feeling threatened by my superior accuracy, consider target focused shooting instead of... whatever the fuck it is you are doing currently.

>>64176521
>all those fliers
Lmao. lol. The fact that you think this is impressive makes this even funnier.

>>64176536
>thats 5.56
Joke flew right over his head. Much like his 5.56 rounds fly right over his targets head.

>>64176541
Listen here kid, if your jealous of my 8 second Bill Drill try using it an inspiration to get better. Consider me a hero of sorts.

>>64176544
>no impact, no idea
I KNEW saving these target pics would pay off some day.

>>64176547
First of all I’m a 45 year old retired Green Beret. Second, all jokes aside I don’t take advice from guys who can’t shoot the broad side of a barn.

>>64176456
>Single dot better
why

>3 year battery life
>adding another point of failure for meme awake anyway
what are these faggots thinking?

>>64176556
For the high level shooter when you are target focused shooting at speed the, you are more or less shooting at the color red, not overlaying target with dot. Bigger red in reticle = bit bigger groups. It's all about your indexing, you hardly even aim.

For the average joe shooter it is visual noise that is slowing you down bringing dot on target. It often induces premature trigger pull as people yank it when the outer ring nears the target as soon as you put them on a shot timer.

As you get more reps and develop better indexing you don't really aim with the dot as much as confirm your aimpoint with it. You want a single easily seen dot. As you are developing this skill, a fine point of aim is better for getting accurate reps.

I'm like a C class btw.

>>64176555
A BARN? You think I'm some sorta sniper?!

>>64176576
Classic case of listening to the customer.

>>64176585
I have a Chevron reticle. I always find it very easy to take quick scopes with it.

>>64176585
>people who don’t train are bad at shooting
Oh wow thanks for the valuable insight, Columbo. Next you’re going to tell me jerking the trigger and aiming the gun sideways is poor technique.

>>64176606
Chevron and delta point triangle are both fucking awesome imo.

>>64176611
It’s too much visual noise. Anything but a 2moa dot is too much for the brain to process and induces premature discharges. In fact, we shouldn’t even have a reticle we should just train until we can aim without sights.

>>64176607
How are you this dumb?

>>64176613
The whole gimmick of meme triangle dot is the infinitely small point of aim. Kinda nice for slowfire precision. But it's also a no circle reticle, so not so much red in the FOV.

The correct rebuttal should have been that the meme gimick triangle does nothing for you and might as well be a circle when shooting fast.

>>64176576
They wanted to make an optic that appeals to retards

>>64176622
Wow are you a combat arms trainer for cag or something? You seem to have the answer for everything!! I love that we have all these super intelligent high level operator tripfags to give us their extremely insightful opinions!

new >>64176638
new >>64176638

>>64176473
Everyone should do as they please, but if an anon wants to buy a new legacy elcan, he can do so relatively cheaply there. International shipping also makes it interesting for non-US anons. I wish I had waited for this offer and not only saved myself a lot of money, but would now also have a red dot including mount.

>>64176158
Three years even with shake awake?

>>64176775
No 3 years is constant on

>>64174328
SAAAR DO NOT REDEEEEM

>>64175043
Sam Hyde

>>64173231
>muh /pol/shit

>>64176499
Uh no he doesn't.