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Anonymous No.64180162 >>64180194 >>64180265 >>64180279 >>64180401 >>64180409 >>64180440 >>64180574 >>64180633 >>64180642 >>64182579 >>64182660 >>64183010
Liutyi Drone Swarm
Pic related is Kuybyshevskiy oil refinery in Russia that was hit with at least 17 impacts tonight by the Ukraine drone type in pic related. A proper swarm. Several more vid of strike in link.

https://nitter.poast.org/bayraktar_1love/status/1960919288782708923#m
Anonymous No.64180166 >>64180238 >>64180321
That explains the shilling. We knew something went wrong hours ago
Anonymous No.64180173 >>64180291 >>64181296
Always nice to see the pretty lights, but please work on your English. I'm tired of giving GUR a free pass.
Anonymous No.64180176
These are 700lb drones.
Anonymous No.64180194 >>64180198 >>64180409 >>64180688
>>64180162 (OP)
And at the same time russians chimped out with 500+ Shaheds on civilian infrastructure.
Really showing the priorities of either side.
Anonymous No.64180198 >>64180210 >>64180215
>>64180194
Last round of talks ended no progress. So now they go back to pounding each other.
Anonymous No.64180209
Man, slav wars are so gay and retarded, Hitler was 100% right, these slants are not white.
Anonymous No.64180210 >>64180221
>>64180198
The talks had no impact on the intensity of strikes.
Anonymous No.64180212
Now, i was assured by TASS that air defence was working, and all drones were shot down. Clearly this picture is globohomo lies made in jewwywood
Anonymous No.64180215
>>64180198
>Last round of talks ended no progress
Yeah im shocked.
But at least Donnie is fucking over India with tarrifs, which is kinda based ngl
Anonymous No.64180219 >>64180223 >>64180230 >>64180243 >>64180245 >>64180257 >>64180270 >>64180274 >>64180278 >>64180471 >>64180750 >>64180760 >>64181186 >>64181372 >>64181485
Recent Nostradumbass take on the issue
How over is it now for refineries?
Anonymous No.64180221 >>64180266
>>64180210
Sorta but not quite. Russia does a binge-and-purge between sub-100 strikes and 300+ drones in addition to missiles. On every occasion, talks have occurred during a low-intensity period and moved back to a high-volume program within the next 1-3 nights after talks conclude.
Anonymous No.64180223
>>64180219
oh fuck, they're doomed.
Anonymous No.64180230 >>64180237 >>64180474 >>64181039 >>64181469
>>64180219
Some parts of the Russian outback are charging $8 a gallon
Some have banned sale of gasoline to individuals for a few days
Russia has banned export of refined gasoline until the end of the month
Refining capacity is down 17%
Somebody blew up the main pipeline for supplying gasoline to Moscow yesterday
Anonymous No.64180237 >>64181039 >>64181385 >>64181472
>>64180230
And every now and then Fico and Orban screams in pain as their pipeline gets bullied
Anonymous No.64180238 >>64180249 >>64180251
>>64180166
>That explains the shilling
I thoughed it was about the /chug/troon shooting up the church?
Anonymous No.64180243
>>64180219
Burnt down to the ground
Nothing left of the whole area
Come Air Defense cucks
Anonymous No.64180245
>>64180219
>copelord chimes in
Press F for the russian oil industry.
Anonymous No.64180249 >>64181039
>>64180238
>the /chug/troon
Ffs
Anonymous No.64180251
>>64180238
There's a lot going on. Iran is letting the IAEA back in, everyone involved in Syria is continuing to be retarded, the Pokrovsk zig grinder is churning along, it's an eventful week.
Anonymous No.64180254
can we get a refinery bingo card update please?
this last month has been toasty
Anonymous No.64180257
>>64180219
I knew it was bad but I didn't think it was THIS bad
Anonymous No.64180264
Air defence watches on, cock in hand.
Anonymous No.64180265 >>64180627
>>64180162 (OP)
It's beautiful, like an Arizona sunset.
Anonymous No.64180266
>>64180221
I think it's just looking for a pattern where the only one is related to russian missile/drone production (since, despite what russians claim the strike intensity really is dependent on the production figures).
Anonymous No.64180270
>>64180219
Well, that means there's refineries on fire that the Ukrainians don't even know about.
Anonymous No.64180274
>>64180219
>copelord says everything is fine

LAWD JESUS THE WHOLE THING'S BURNING DOWN GIT DA WATA NIGGUHHH
Anonymous No.64180278
>>64180219
Ooof
Anonymous No.64180279 >>64180289
>>64180162 (OP)
/K/ope)))))))))
Russia killed 10 bandernazis in the Kiev))))))))))
Anonymous No.64180289
>>64180279
>ukie drones can fly thousands of km to hit railways, industry, critical infrastructure
>russia just shits drones and ballistic missiles at residental areas in the hope that something of importance lies within the CEP
Such a strange fucking war
Anonymous No.64180291 >>64180297 >>64180309 >>64180312 >>64180356 >>64181338 >>64181660
>>64180173
>but please work on your English
I won't I'll butcher english and there's nothign you can do about it.
Anonymous No.64180297 >>64180396 >>64181290
>>64180291
Fucking hell. Was that the smooking incident at the powder factory?
Anonymous No.64180309
>>64180291
My windshield...
Anonymous No.64180312 >>64180330 >>64180356 >>64181290
>>64180291
what the fuck happened to his windshield?
was that debris or some sort of pressure effect?
Anonymous No.64180321
>>64180166
>we
lurk moar newfag
Anonymous No.64180330
>>64180312
>some sort of pressure effect?
You must be at least 18 to post here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_wave
Anonymous No.64180356 >>64180455 >>64181290
>>64180291
>>64180312
Slow the vid down and watch just as 0:01 flips over to 0:02. Carefully pay attention to the vegetation on the far side of the road to the left of the frame, about in the center. You can watch the blast wave approaching. Overpressure ain't no joke.
Anonymous No.64180396 >>64180406
>>64180297
Whatever it is that's a fuckload of nitrates. Gotta love the bright red smoke.
Anonymous No.64180401
>>64180162 (OP)
I don't think there's much left of those two refineries, its all just fire
Anonymous No.64180406 >>64180408
>>64180396
Beirut explosion was reddish too?
Anonymous No.64180408 >>64180413 >>64180415 >>64180482 >>64181393
>>64180406
Yep. It burns white but when the shit goes off it pumps out brick-red.
Anonymous No.64180409 >>64180423 >>64180447
>>64180162 (OP)
>Kuybyshevskiy oil refinery in Russia that was hit with at least 17 impacts tonight
There were two refineries hit.
>Afipsky (Krasnodar)
>Novokuibyshevsky (Samara) - OP post
Last night was ~4% of Russia's capacity, 21% already destroyed/out of action in the last month.

Seems like the energy truce might be off.

>>64180194
>And at the same time russians chimped out with 500+ Shaheds on civilian infrastructure.
94% interception/neutralisation/decoys on the shaheds btw
87% on missiles
They expended, I don't know how many, millions on 598 drones and 33 missiles and killed about 4 civilians, mostly children and injured maybe 30. The numbers will probably rise a bit as more reports come in.
They did manage to set a kindergarten on fire and blow up someone's house though so I guess that counts as a strategic success?

Intercepted/neutralised:
>1/2 Kh-47M2 aeroballistic hypersonic missiles of the Kinzhal complex.
>7/9 ballistic missiles 9M723 OTRK "Iskander-M" / KN-23.
>18/20 Kh-101/Kh-55 cruise missiles.
>563/598 Shaheds
Anonymous No.64180413
>>64180408
God i remember all the retarded posts this blast generated.
Or every properly large explosion in general, desu
Anonymous No.64180415 >>64180421 >>64180430
>>64180408
Yeah same shit so maybe this ain't even connected to war but drunk forklift operator.
Anonymous No.64180417 >>64180430
The Beirut explosion also had red smoke.
Aren't nitrates fairly low-powered for military explosives?
Anonymous No.64180421 >>64180448 >>64180480
>>64180415
That's more-or-less the official story, an actual unironic OSHA violation, and without drone footage or Ukraine claiming it, I'm inclined to believe them for once.
Anonymous No.64180423 >>64180433
>>64180409
>killed about 4 civilians, mostly children
They say children's lives are priceless so those drones still have profitable yield.
Anonymous No.64180430 >>64180448
>>64180417
>>64180415
You need a shitload of nitrates (more specifically, fuming nitric acid) for smokeless gunpowder. The entire process is dangerous as hell. If the factory's running high volume, low sleep because they're undermanned, and typical Russian safety controls (I.E., extra vodka rations to keep the tremors down), it's basically a matter of time.
Anonymous No.64180433
>>64180423
At least ten killed confirmed so far.
Anonymous No.64180440
>>64180162 (OP)
Yet more bad news for Russia.
>Project 21631 Buyan-M corvette
>On August 28, Ukraine’s HUR β€œPrymary” unit and the Department of Active Operations damaged a Russian Buyan-M missile ship in the Azov Sea near occupied Crimea.
>The Kalibr cruise missile carrier suffered radar and hull damage from drone strikes and was forced to retreat from its combat patrol zone.

https://t.me/noel_reports/33346

Not even the Azov Sea is safe for the Black Sea Fleet now.
Anonymous No.64180444 >>64181209
Anyone got the latest bingo card? Mine is super old.
Anonymous No.64180447
>>64180409
Xaxaxa stupid khohol every killed child can't become soldier in your nazi bandera army
Anonymous No.64180448 >>64180454
>>64180421
>>64180430
That explosion was in Ukraine I think, you can see small flag on the pole in the video.
Anonymous No.64180454
>>64180448
>That explosion was in Ukraine I think, you can see small flag on the pole in the video.
It's not that hard to screencap anon

Timestamp is 0:08
Anonymous No.64180455 >>64180456 >>64180461 >>64180468 >>64180501 >>64181225 >>64181290
>>64180356
In case of overpressure what do i do as a civvie? Are my lungs fucked? Any first aid?
Anonymous No.64180456
>>64180455
That and all i remember when blowing up rocks is that being told to open my mouth and not hold my breath cuz otherwise lungs burst or something
Anonymous No.64180461 >>64180465
>>64180455
Lungs are not problem but the brain to my understanding.
There's a video where some bmp loaded with explosives went off and people that where in trenches near it where throwing up and complaining of headache.
Anonymous No.64180465 >>64180469
>>64180461
>Lungs are not problem but the brain
One is over-pressure, the other is concussion.
Separate problems with separate solutions.

Why does everything have to be mutually exclusive with you idiots.
Anonymous No.64180467
In past huge explosions, many people became blinded by watching a distant explosion through window glass, but modern glass is generally safer as it does not break into sharp fragments.
Anonymous No.64180468
>>64180455
As a rule of thumb: if your ears are fine (no ringing/tinnitus/dizziness) your lungs are probably fine, too. Most people get glass-related injuries. ("Oh look a fire in the distance, let me get up to the window to get a better loo-*screaming sounds*)
Anonymous No.64180469
>>64180465
I'm jsut saying they where not complaining about lungs but heads.
Anonymous No.64180471
>>64180219
He has to be some kind of double agent with how amazing his takes are once you invert them.
Anonymous No.64180474 >>64180488 >>64180498
>>64180230
>Russia extends gasoline export ban until Oct. 31
Anonymous No.64180480 >>64180537 >>64180587 >>64181402 >>64181626
>>64180421
>unironic OSHA violation
It's just built into slavic sovl
Anonymous No.64180482 >>64181298 >>64181393
>>64180408
every time I see it I am reminded of how beautiful large explosions truly are
Anonymous No.64180488 >>64180716
>>64180474
There's two bans, one for large-scale and the other for small exports, and the latter is longer.
Unless you're more up to date then me, then please share.
Anonymous No.64180498 >>64180500 >>64180545 >>64180560 >>64180569 >>64180638 >>64180743 >>64181302
>>64180474
Sad shit is gas is still 1/2 the price in Europe where all the refineries are intact.
Anonymous No.64180500 >>64180569 >>64180743
>>64180498
Now factor in how poor Russians are
Anonymous No.64180501
>>64180455
open mouth, dive to the ground
don't just drop, don't leisurely lie down
fucking dive, motherfucker
this will pump most of the air out of your lungs and get you mostly out of the way of any shrapnel and that's a GOOD THING
Anonymous No.64180537 >>64180540 >>64180542 >>64181328 >>64181402
>>64180480
What was in the container?
Anonymous No.64180540
>>64180537
Beer keg from what I know, these do tend to burst like crazy under pressure.
Anonymous No.64180542 >>64180546 >>64181344 >>64181402
>>64180537
My guess is LPG, it's fairly low pressure around 2.5 bar which is just enough for that plastic bottle to survive.
Anonymous No.64180545 >>64180557
>>64180498
Petrol is more expensive in Russia than the US, which is something to factor in when the average Russian is paid in beatings, IOU's and whatever they can steal half the time
Anonymous No.64180546
>>64180542
>just enough for that plastic bottle to survive
well, obviously not
Anonymous No.64180557 >>64180568 >>64180608
>>64180545
>Petrol is more expensive in Russia than the US
idk about that, would say price is similar. So guess that's realistic price of gas and that's ok. Yeah ruskies are poor but me being relatively rich compared to average russian does not give euro oil jew right to steal from me.
Anonymous No.64180560
>>64180498
Refined petrol in russia for individual consumers is subsidised.
Anonymous No.64180568 >>64180579
>>64180557
This is the most stilted post I've read in months and I refuse to believe that it wasn't auto-translated.
Anonymous No.64180569 >>64181550
>>64180498
>>64180500
>how poor Russians are
Isn't the median monthly salary across Russia worth around $500? Some bumfuck regions are much poorer than that.
The federation-wide average is closer to $1000, but with Russia's level of inequality, "average" means very heavily weighted toward a couple percent of the population.
Anonymous No.64180574
>>64180162 (OP)
>A proper swarm
I don't see 2 drones in 1 frame of video, what is a 'proper swarm' to you?
Everyone wants to talk about drone swarms when a real and present conflict featuring millions of drones gives us nothing but footage of munitions carefully guided to targets one at a time like long range drones are valuable or something.
Can't we just call things an attack wave or air raid like normal people instead of saying drone sWARM.
I don't think a drone swarm has actually existed outside of US and Chinese militarily demonstrations with toy drones.
Anonymous No.64180579
>>64180568
idk what you're even implying man.
Anonymous No.64180587
>>64180480
>be russian
>explode
Many such cases
Anonymous No.64180608 >>64180617 >>64180624 >>64180628 >>64180634 >>64180683 >>64181213 >>64181523
>>64180557
Price of petrol in the US is $0.83 a litre, Russia is $0.79, which is more or less parity when you factor in some places +/- a few cents
However,
Average wage in US is about 5-6k a month, Russia is $500-1000 and that's were the fucking really starts to hurt if you need say 100L of fuel a month to get to work, in the US that means they spend maybe 5% of their income, in Russia they could be spending 1/5th of their income
So if you're too poor to work, what the fuck happens as there's no public safety net and you just end up useless
Anonymous No.64180617 >>64180646
>>64180608
(fuck russia) but it has public transport so most can get to work without buying gas themselves(some transport is electric like trams or metro)
they are still fucked mind you, it's just not everyone needs to fill up his car to get to work.
Anonymous No.64180624 >>64180640 >>64180646
>>64180608
Russia is not that car-centric though
Otoh there were reports that freight is slowly switching to trucks there because railways become more expensive and less reliable. Interesting times.
Anonymous No.64180627
>>64180265
Like an ass... in ass
Anonymous No.64180628 >>64180643 >>64180658 >>64180683 >>64180851
>>64180608
>Average wage in US is about 5-6k a month, Russia is $500-1000 and that's were the fucking really starts to hurt if you need say 100L of fuel a month to get to work, in the US that means they spend maybe 5% of their income, in Russia they could be spending 1/5th of their income
>So if you're too poor to work, what the fuck happens as there's no public safety net and you just end up useless
Imagine the fucking insane economic boom if you removed some of the corruption. Imagine actually using the russian resilience and acceptance of shit conditions, actually using their feeling of weird nationalist collectivism.
I hate these incompetent retards so much.
Anonymous No.64180633
>>64180162 (OP)
There is something poetic about turkish drones destroying russian infrastructure
Anonymous No.64180634
>>64180608
poor people in russia drive on lpg, it's 30 cents a liter.
Anonymous No.64180638
>>64180498
its actually cheaper, at least in belgium
>8$/gal = 1,82€/L
see picrel
Anonymous No.64180640
>>64180624
>Russia is not that car-centric though
Kind of hard with their poorly maintained roads
Anonymous No.64180642 >>64180654
>>64180162 (OP)
>Kuybyshevskiy
Isn't that behind the Urals
Where the fuck are Ukrainian glowies in Russia getting all these drones from, damn
Anonymous No.64180643
>>64180628
>Imagine the fucking insane economic boom if you removed some of the corruption.
It would be like if Mexico got rid of the cartels: the national equivalent of Goku taking off his training weights
Anonymous No.64180646
>>64180617
>>64180624
Like anywhere, its alright if you're in a regional centre or something as you can get a bus, walk or something. But out in the boonies were there's practically fuck-all, all your agriculture, mining, forestry and other donkey work, that's all done with vehicles of some sort.I mean i live in regional bumblefuck Australia and own a couple of farms, petrol and diesel prices are sort of where we live or die economically- for my tractors, pumps, trucks, generators, getting to town by car and using large trucks to move livestock and produce.
They get too expensive, we simply couldn't move food into somewhere to get it processed and distributed, therefore, it becomes more expensive to produce, which in turn gets passed on down to the customer eventually
Scale that across anything from steel plate, machine parts, timber, transport industries and you rapidly go downhill as a country, its a real imperative that fuel prices remain viable as part of your economy, because if they get too high, everything else gets too high to buy and things go to hell

In large countries like mine or Russia in particular we call that the tyranny of distance
Anonymous No.64180654
>>64180642
It's 1Mm from the Ukrainian border, Liutyi have hit targets in that distance before.
Anonymous No.64180657 >>64180666 >>64180669 >>64180674 >>64180701 >>64181413 >>64181540 >>64181545
>Ukraine today
>hit a big refinery and a cruiser.
>Russia today
>Double hit a random commie block in kyiv
why waste cruise missiles like this?
Anonymous No.64180658 >>64180683 >>64180695 >>64180851
>>64180628
It would literally be fucking insane
Their ability to grow food, produce fuel, energy industry and completely bonkers amount of natural resources... it'd be an actual economic super power. No bullshit either, it'd only need to be about 50% efficient and have a half decent workforce and they could probably crush everyone else in those industries.
But I mean shit, we've seen it all before, they can barely stop fucking each other over for a TV soundbite!
Anonymous No.64180666 >>64180723
>>64180657
>why waste cruise missiles like this?
Because of aesthetics.
Anonymous No.64180669 >>64180677 >>64180686
>>64180657
Because Russians are backwards thugs with inaccurate weapons, they murder civvies in poorly-aimed mass terror bombing all to "save face" as much as to try and break the ukrainians will to fight (which never fucking works as a concept)
Anonymous No.64180674 >>64180676
>>64180657
>cruiser
Tell me more.
Anonymous No.64180676 >>64180703
>>64180674
>>64180506
Anonymous No.64180677 >>64180712
>>64180669
>they murder civvies
Since Ukraine is democracy population/civilians are directly responsible for the war and should suffer the consequences of their actions.
Anonymous No.64180683 >>64180696 >>64181310 >>64181583
>>64180608
>if you're too poor to work, what the fuck happens as there's no public safety net and you just end up useless
Imagine you become useless at the same moment there's a massive state project to expand war industry or pay you more money than you'd ever seen as a sign-up bonus to fight in the war.

I'm not a west==bad retard rooting for Russia but they have barely even started to pull the economic levers that serious countries fighting serious wars can pull the economic levers on. Filling up a car in Russia costs x% more rubles than last year? So Russians still buy gas with money still and they haven't even issued ration cards yet? This doesn't encourage me to believe they'll fold anytime soon unless Putin is deposed internally.

>>64180628
>>64180658
One of the most irritating things about arguing with communists is that they point to Soviet Russia as a shining example of how amazingly they transformed potato farming peasants into a country with a space program.
It's like yeah, the world's most squandered potential was slightly less squandered and any random country we bombed the fuck out of and rebuilt did far better, good job
Anonymous No.64180686 >>64180764
>>64180669
>which never fucking works as a concept
It worked in Serbia just fine.
Anonymous No.64180688
>>64180194
it's confirmed that russia hit a couple of drone companies and associated facilities. bayraktar and ukrspecsystems.
Anonymous No.64180695
>>64180658
Imagine they used the fascination of some US boomers with their autocracy to develop lasting ties. Imagine they offered "10k dollars, 1 Week of shooting Kalashnikovs, Driving T72s and blowing something up" tourist tours, with complimentary fur hat. Invoke, invite even the very American Spirit they lust for so hard. Position yourself as an expert on Rocket Tech, name a Rocket ElonsPenis3000, and suck the retard dry. Enjoy the biggest landmass of the planet while the world struggles with climate change, the frozen fields might even become usable because of it. Conquer the fucking stars, shoot 2025 Yuris to the sky and thank them for their service to humanity and sacrifice.
But nooooo, go rush Banan and die for Stinky instead.
what a shambles
Anonymous No.64180696
>>64180683
Worked better for them than current neoliberal capitalism.
My bet is Russia will switch back to chink style communism over span of few decades.
Anonymous No.64180701 >>64180710 >>64180711 >>64180723
>>64180657
>Double hit a random commie block in kyiv
That's standard, they try to murder firefighters and medics with a double-tap.
Anonymous No.64180703 >>64181219
>>64180676
That's a corvette, a lot smaller than a cruiser.
Russia has no cruisers in the Black Sea since the Moskva was sunk.
Anonymous No.64180710 >>64180742
>>64180701
>firefighters and medics
Don't forget reporters&media.
Anonymous No.64180711
>>64180701
and then they cry about fpv drones exploding their soldiers in 4k
Anonymous No.64180712 >>64180725
>>64180677
Ukrainian population didn't vote for russia to invade, retard.
Anonymous No.64180716 >>64180722 >>64180739 >>64180822
>>64180488
>https://tass.com/economy/2008181
"The government is introducing a new temporary ban on the export of motor gasoline. The restrictions will be in effect from September 1 to October 31, 2025, inclusive. From September 1 to September 30, 2025, the ban will apply to all exporters, including direct producers of petroleum products. From October 1 to October 31, the restrictions will be lifted for gasoline producers,"
Anonymous No.64180722 >>64180822
>>64180716
Thank you kindly
Anonymous No.64180723 >>64180731
>>64180701
that's not what is happening. that shows 2 missiles arriving at functionally the same time on the target. it doesn't look like work hours either.
see >>64180666
Anonymous No.64180725 >>64180729 >>64180730 >>64180733 >>64180734 >>64180793 >>64181019
>>64180712
They voted for policies that caused russian attack.
Who said politics and elections never make change in real world kek.
Anonymous No.64180729
>>64180725
They didn't, retard.
Anonymous No.64180730
>>64180725
Oh, right, how could I have forgotten about the Judeo-Banderite mind control machines? Silly me!
Anonymous No.64180731
>>64180723
Them ukrainian firefighters and medics with 10 sec response time.
Anonymous No.64180733
>>64180725
Anonymous No.64180734 >>64180744
>>64180725
>that caused russian attack.

That's pure Putin, he wants to get the USSR back together, you can vote any way you want. If you were part of the USSR, you're coming back kicking and screaming or voluntarily it doesn't make any difference to him. The only thing causing russia to attack is Putin, the buck stops and gets stolen by him on everything
Anonymous No.64180739 >>64180822
>>64180716
>From October 1 to October 31, the restrictions will be lifted for gasoline producers
(X)
Anonymous No.64180742
>>64180710
>Don't forget reporters&media.
Those probably aren't at the scene when the second strike comes, they arrive after the first responders have cleared the site somewhat.
Anonymous No.64180743
>>64180498
>>64180500
>Now factor in how poor Russians are
That is one thing, the quite poor efficiency of their cars another
The niva, which in some regions is the only choice due to the sorry state of their roads can need 11L/100km with its meager 80hp, and that's without serious offroading (my shitbox, thats old enough to be here takes 8L/100km with150hp in comparison)
So the people living outside the bigger cities are dependent on the low gas prices, and will absolutely get fucked should the subsidies get dropped, the more the further they are from any public transport (the railways are also already begging to rise the prices, so those will get fucked regardless)
We might see a commie approach to price hikes though, in that it will be cheap but also barely available kek
Anonymous No.64180744 >>64180749 >>64180752 >>64180756 >>64180759 >>64180797 >>64180801 >>64180862 >>64180867 >>64181549
>>64180734
EU did them nasty there, no one explained them in simple terms, like yeah want to join EU but that ain't really possible in your case since it's just fact of life you're under ruskies sphere of influence and they won't just let you go, it'll probably cause war, thousands will die and it ain't really worth it in the end.
Like I want boat with three propellers but you can't go blindly against realities that surround you.
Anonymous No.64180749
>>64180744
>no, don't you get it, it's Russia's RIGHT to bully their neighbors!
Hand, gun, outlet
Anonymous No.64180750
>>64180219
Jesus, i didn't know it was this bad with the refineries in Russia.
>Nostradumbass
Topkek
Anonymous No.64180751
Nearby streetlights and car lights are unaffected, so it looks like an air explosion.
Or perhaps an AI explosion?
Anonymous No.64180752 >>64180755
>>64180744
nta, but the baltics also were a part of the the USSR and are both in EU and NATO now
Anonymous No.64180753 >>64180757 >>64180766 >>64181310 >>64181536
You guys remember when penetrating puccya "air defense" were a big deal and everybody was out of their mind? Now it's just common Wednesday... Is there not enough air defense across the whole fucking Russian federation to place around oil refineries?
Anonymous No.64180754
Must be either a troll or a hungarian with that shit of a take.
Anonymous No.64180755 >>64180771
>>64180752
ruskies gifted whole eastern europe to the collective west back in the day but as they say for neoliberal capitalism not even too much is enough.
Anonymous No.64180756 >>64180767
>>64180744
>it's just fact of life you're under ruskies sphere of influence
>11 Years of armed, organized resistance
>Just a fact
It seems reality is actively disagreeing.
Anonymous No.64180757 >>64180804 >>64181536
>>64180753
You can literally see the the AD shooting in the video. And no, there's not enough AD to defend against drone swarms
This is a new problem countries have to find a solution for, cause it's very cheap to amass drone swarms and overwhelm defenses in one place. Russia is doubly fucked because they're giant and have no economy
Anonymous No.64180759 >>64180761
>>64180744
This is what ziggers actually believe.
Anonymous No.64180760 >>64180768
>>64180219
>copelord chimes in
They are absolutely fucked
Anonymous No.64180761 >>64180763
>>64180759
it's just a dry fact
Anonymous No.64180763
>>64180761
Keep telling yourself that.
Anonymous No.64180764 >>64180777
>>64180686
Yeah well anon is talking about bombing civilians, you need to be civilized in a first place to be consider civilian.
Anonymous No.64180766 >>64181536
>>64180753
They've still just got drunk ziggas with small arms and the odd machinegun, missing horrendously!
It actually takes a lot of skill to shoot out of or at fast moving objects, so you can only imagine their 'training program' in place to be part of a refinery defense team
>BEST MEN
>ON THE JOB!
Anonymous No.64180767 >>64180772 >>64180776 >>64181553
>>64180756
>11 Years of armed, organized resistance
2014-2020 was more of a disorganized civil war with eastern ukraine fighting western one. ofc both sides had their external sympathizers and helpers.
Anonymous No.64180768 >>64180782 >>64180819 >>64181202
>>64180760
Anonymous No.64180771
>>64180755
>ruskies gifted whole eastern europe to the collective west
my sides
you really don't understand anything else but master and slave relationships
Anonymous No.64180772 >>64180780
>>64180767
>civil war
With the other side of the civil war lead by Russian operatives, sure.
Anonymous No.64180776
>>64180767
>2014-2020 was more of a disorganized civil war with eastern ukraine fighting western one
No. Strelkov was directly under the command of Russia and so were the AFU forces that bombed Donetsk Children, or did you just forget about that? You fucking cocksuckers are really obvious.
Anonymous No.64180777 >>64180779 >>64180783
>>64180764
True true and in my opinion serbia is as stupid and retared as ukraine. You can't be surrounded by HATO and EU and then try forcing your own independent whatever thing. bend a knee, kiss a ring and move on under terms reality around your dictates.
Anonymous No.64180779
>>64180777
Serbia is actually positioning itself quite smartly atm, its the harbor for lost business relationships with Russian enterprises that are not really interested in the whole SMO thing.
You are clueless.
Anonymous No.64180780 >>64180781
>>64180772
and other side by globohomo operatives or was it all organic my man?
Anonymous No.64180781 >>64180789
>>64180780
>was it all organic
Yes. Unlike the "tanks found in mines" and "little green men".
Anonymous No.64180782 >>64180784
>>64180768
>No hate, but you don't appear to be accustomed with equipment in general
oryx calling that retard out will never stop being funny
Anonymous No.64180783
>>64180777
>t. fico
Anonymous No.64180784 >>64180791
>>64180782
>oryx calling
lol citing that nafo trannie, really?
Anonymous No.64180789 >>64180799
>>64180781
Even if so they should have just let east ukros to go their separate way and then build their globohomo EU utopia in western part.
Anonymous No.64180790 >>64180800
We've got an unironic shill going full-tilt
Anonymous No.64180791 >>64180800
>>64180784
Kek, we're close to a gulaghomo bingo-card here
Anonymous No.64180793 >>64180798 >>64180876
>>64180725
>They voted for policies that caused russian attack
What policies could Eire vote for that would cause the Bongalongs to attack? What policies could Spain vote for that would cause the Frenchies to attack?
Anonymous No.64180797 >>64180802
>>64180744
>you're under ruskies sphere of influence
That's a solvable problem.
Anonymous No.64180798 >>64180836 >>64180838
>>64180793
Anon...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Troubles
Anonymous No.64180799
>>64180789
>east ukros
No such thing. Ask Girkin.
Anonymous No.64180800
>>64180790
>>64180791
If they spent half the energy they use on spouting bullshit online as they did into actual air defense that worked, they might have something.
Otherwise its just the rooster screeching on top of his shit pile
Anonymous No.64180801 >>64180806
>>64180744
>ruskies sphere of influence
Ruzzians have no more right to muh sphere of influence than anyone else: that is, none.
Anonymous No.64180802 >>64180808 >>64180810 >>64180833
>>64180797
Solvable but unprofitable really.
Anonymous No.64180804 >>64181462 >>64181536
>>64180757
>You can literally see the the AD shooting in the video
That was one guy with a PKM.
I watch real air defence shooting in Kyiv with a 94% interception rate. I'm not impressed by an LMG with tracers.
Anonymous No.64180806 >>64180811
>>64180801
No one should have right to that but as I sad those are realities of life you have to work around.
Anonymous No.64180807
Friendly remidner that war tourists like me only started coming to /k/ to laugh at Russia. All this WAAAH BUT MUH SPHERE OF INFLUENCE shit doesn't matter. You invaded a country and failed hilariously
Anonymous No.64180808 >>64180815
>>64180802
Humanity profits as ruskies die.
Anonymous No.64180810
>>64180802
>Solvable but unprofitable really.
The west profits, the states escaping Russia's influence profit.
Russia loses.

This is considered a cost of doing business, we do business and Russia pays the cost.
I'm not hearing any complaints.
Anonymous No.64180811 >>64180816
>>64180806
I wonder how the russians will work around not having any gas.
Anonymous No.64180815
>>64180808
I kinda like them ruskies but from decent distance.
Since ex-yu which was willing to fight ruskies if needed unlike east euro bootlickers we don't have daddy issues with ruskies today.
They're good clean & tame tourists willing to spend and are welcome on the coast here.
Anonymous No.64180816 >>64180825 >>64180829 >>64181763
>>64180811
If it comes to that they can always nuke ukraine ande end it all in one night.
Anonymous No.64180819
>>64180768
>armor doesn't just hang out in the open to be picked off, tactics 101 but you'd be surprised how often soldiers don't understand it
If soldiers don't understand tactics 101 doesn't that mean armor would be hanging out in the open
Anonymous No.64180822
>>64180722
>>64180716
>>64180739
Not to be a downer but Russia does this every year so they can build stock for winter. It just so happened in 2023 that it wasn't enough and shit froze so they had to lynch local governors for failing to maintain boilers instead of blaming Putin.
Anonymous No.64180825
>>64180816
They tried that already, lmao.
Anonymous No.64180829 >>64180831
>>64180816
>gas station with nooks
>no gas
ironic
Anonymous No.64180831 >>64180850
>>64180829
it's ethical thing to do, would save hundreds of thousand of lives on both sides, just like in japan.
Anonymous No.64180833 >>64180840
>>64180802
some things in life are worth more than money
not being a part of Russia is one of those things
Anonymous No.64180836
>>64180798
If the Bongs didn't get involve then they won't now. The real reason they didn't is because the Irish have a huge amount of leverage due to USA diaspora. Same reason Ireland even got independence. Hell, the UK bailed up Ireland in 2008 with huge amounts of money to prevent them collapsing. The UK also defends Ireland iirc militarily. This is all part of the deal for Ireland giving up claims on Northern Ireland and shit with GFA. Anyway....
Anonymous No.64180838 >>64180845
>>64180798
The Troubles weren't Eire vs the UK, you cretin. It does make me wonder what the Bongalongs would do if they had taken Eire's decision to remain in the EU after Brexit as an intolerable provocation, though.
>Bong army rolls across norn Ireland border - initial progress good but is repelled and subsequently gets stuck a few miles from norn Ireland border. Takes 14:1 casualties trying to advance further
>Parachute Regiment tries to take Dublin airport - gets BTFO
>Bongs routinely threaten to nuke anyone helping Eire defend itself
>QEII, Bongalong flagship, sunk in Irish Sea
>Bongalong navy forced to stop operating in Irish Sea by several sinkings. Withdraws to eastern shores. Still gets routinely attacked
>Western Bong power plants, oil refineries and other infrastructure routinely attacked and damaged
>Attacks on eastern RAF bases decimate strategic capabilities
>Bongalongs still stuck a few miles from norn Ireland border after more than three years - over a million dead and wounded squaddies
Kek. Bongalongs would melt down in shame.
Anonymous No.64180840 >>64180857 >>64180858
>>64180833
>not being a part of Russia is one of those things
east euros didn't share that sentiment. they licked ruskies boots till them ruskies basically gifted them to new landlord. No resistance, no partisans, no saboteurs, just crickets and bootlicking for decade after decade. And now they're pushing ukraine to do what they didn't have guts for. Fucking cowards and hypocrites.
Anonymous No.64180845 >>64180848
>>64180838
The Moskva wasn't the flagship of the Russian navy, but of the Black Sea.
Anonymous No.64180848
>>64180845
Kek! That's it? That's your cope? Fucking hell's bells.
Anonymous No.64180850
>>64180831
we're not in the business of saving lives, we're in the business of killing russians
TZD
Anonymous No.64180851 >>64180861 >>64180996
>>64180628
>>64180658
Sounds like good space for living
Anonymous No.64180857
>>64180840
You listen too much to putin's history lectures. Try reading an actual book.
Anonymous No.64180858
>>64180840
yeah all those tanks the soviets sent into eastern european countries were there to deliver gumdrops and icecream
Anonymous No.64180861 >>64180996
>>64180851
France and Germany go back to the 'old ways'
Hahaha!
>they're on the same side
>fugg
Anonymous No.64180862
>>64180744
Russia doesn't get a sphere of influence because it's a buck broken shithole country
Anonymous No.64180867 >>64180880
>>64180744
there is no Russian sphere of influence, only the eastern border of the European Union
Anonymous No.64180876 >>64180884
>>64180793
You see Anon, it all started when the Rightful King of Leinster was unjustly outed and accepted aid from Anglo-Welsh-Normans in return for submission.
Anonymous No.64180880 >>64180949 >>64180983 >>64181134
>>64180867
>only the eastern border of the European Union
The Sea of Okhotsk?
Anonymous No.64180884
>>64180876
Kek. Indeed. An intolerable historic injustice. I think that means the Bongs have an unassailable right to kidnap Irish children. Stands to reason.
Anonymous No.64180949 >>64181134
>>64180880
I was going to say the Bering Strait but that works too
Anonymous No.64180983 >>64181134
>>64180880
I guess Japan will be happy to co-prosper too
Anonymous No.64180996 >>64181006 >>64181415
>>64180851
>>64180861
Forget krauts and frogs, i'm certain that would you have given russia to Italians not only would the "third Rome" claims be unironic for once, you'd also have fucking park benches covered in alcantara by now
Anonymous No.64181006 >>64181069
>>64180996
What? The Italians are notoriously corrupt and incompetent. Not to the extent of russians, but still.
Anonymous No.64181019
>>64180725
ivan the terrible predicted this
Anonymous No.64181039 >>64181053
>>64180230
>Some parts of the Russian outback are charging $8 a gallon
Ruh roh. That's something like 50% more than here in EU. When accounting for Puccian purchasing power that must be rough.

>>64180237
That maybe my favorite part.

>>64180249
I mean what did you expect? You don't believe that /chug/gers are actually white healthy heterosexuals of sound mind?
Anonymous No.64181053
>>64181039
>here in EU
There's no "here in EU" when we talk about gas prices. Prices are different all over Europe.
Anonymous No.64181069 >>64181087
>>64181006
>What? The Italians are notoriously corrupt and incompetent
Yeah, anon, that's the point
We may make fun of Italians but they would be so much better than russia at managing it's not even funny
Anonymous No.64181087 >>64181119
>>64181069
>No spaceships
>No nukes
Italians are not even in the same league as ruskies
Anonymous No.64181119
>>64181087
>>No spaceships
>>No nukes
India has both, do you want to live there?

>Italians are not even in the same league as ruskies
Look the resources both have, and what they are doing with it
Anonymous No.64181134 >>64181169 >>64182085 >>64183221
>>64180949
>>64180880
>The Sea of Okhotsk?
>>64180983
>I guess Japan will be happy to co-prosper too

>you will take a TGV in Paris to Tokyo
Stop, my dick can only get so hard
Anonymous No.64181140
>Ukrainians send 20 drones per target because they suppose the AD will destroy 17-18 and some will fail
>they do nothing and 17 drones impact the refinery
lmao even
Anonymous No.64181169 >>64181381 >>64182964
>>64181134
>you will take a TGV in Paris to Tokyo
You'll need a gigantic infrastructure overhaul.
Anonymous No.64181186
>>64180219
oh
oh it's BAD bad
Anonymous No.64181202
>>64180768
Was there ever an instance where he was not utterly wrong?
Anonymous No.64181209 >>64181222 >>64181707
>>64180444
Anonymous No.64181213
>>64180608
>the rent problem but for gas
that's rough
Anonymous No.64181219 >>64181231 >>64182270
>>64180703
I thought that was a frigate.
But I'm navaly challenged so if you could enlighten me on the difference?
Anonymous No.64181222 >>64181232 >>64181378
>>64181209
are any of those getting repaired or is it all the way to the bottom if ukraine continues the strikes?
Anonymous No.64181225
>>64180455
Generally speaking, lungs are only damaged in the deadly wounds but not instant death radius of a blast. If your lungs are fucked, you'll die in the next few hours, and you'll be hurting enough to want it.

If you're able to think straight, or at least no worse than after a good punch in the head, your lungs are fine.
Anonymous No.64181231 >>64181244 >>64182153
>>64181219
Cruiser>Destroyer>Frigate>Corvette
That corvette in question displaces 1/10 of cruiser Moskva, and for most navies, the lines are somewhat blurred, an Arleigh Burke is a destroyer but it's of similar displacement to the Moskva and is larger than WWII light cruisers, but there's no question on how to define a 850t ship, it's definitely not a cruiser. A WWII destroyer escort is twice as big.
Anonymous No.64181232
>>64181222
They perpetually repair them. Not sure if the output gets fully back tough. But situation is not that great as it might seem from that picture.
Anonymous No.64181244 >>64181288
>>64181231
OK thanks. I thought that the difference is not only set by displacement by fighting role as well.
Like destroyers are primarily meant to engage cruisers, or that frigate is only meant to cover AA for others or something like that.
Anonymous No.64181288 >>64181347 >>64181602
>>64181244
Destroyers were originally called "Torpedo Boat Destroyers", and were created as such, sinking torpedo boats swarms that can overwhelm big battleships. They were not meant to engage cruisers head on due to the cruiser's superior firepower and range.
Nowadays it doesn't really matter since almost all modern destroyers are cruiser-sized and armed to the teeth, they just don't want to be called cruiser due to politics or some bullshit. Some of those from Japan are literally carriers but are still called destroyers.
Anonymous No.64181290
>>64180297
>>64180312
>>64180356
>>64180455
Thats an explosion from a couple of months ago in ukraine. Surprisingly unrelated to any missile/drone attacks, just an industrial accident.
Anonymous No.64181296
>>64180173
one could argue that posting here IS working on one's English
Anonymous No.64181298
>>64180482
It's like something out of old school anime.
Anonymous No.64181302
>>64180498
More than half of our gas price is indirect taxes that are paying for hospitals and bridges and shit that works, rather than another yacht for uncle Vlad's pals
Anonymous No.64181310
>>64180753
>Is there not enough air defense across the whole fucking Russian federation to place around oil refineries?
No. They have a devilish problem defending their airspace (which was also true during the Cold War).

>>64180683
>Filling up a car in Russia costs x% more rubles than last year? So Russians still buy gas with money still and they haven't even issued ration cards yet? This doesn't encourage me to believe they'll fold anytime soon unless Putin is deposed internally.
I think a general rule is that if your own population isn't demoralized by long-range airstrikes, it's not likely that the enemy population is going to be demoralized by them, either. That said, if you're going to use deep strike for anything it's best to use it against energy infrastructure. The Houthis did this to Saudi Arabia. At this point in the war the name of the game is to drive up the costs to Russia of continuing the war. Damaging Russia's energy industry is one of the best ways to do that.
Anonymous No.64181322
>we have the most resources in the world!
>they all wanna steal it to enrich themselves!
>what? you are paying double that a european with no oil fields does because... because they are degenerates. now dig the fucking hole.
>i love russia
cant make this shit up.
Anonymous No.64181328 >>64181402
>>64180537
nerve gas
Anonymous No.64181338
>>64180291
that's just drone debris, nothing to worry about
Anonymous No.64181344
>>64180542
And what are they supposed to do with 2.5bar of gas inside?
Anonymous No.64181347
>>64181288
should call them "very fast picket"
Anonymous No.64181372 >>64181835 >>64181871
>>64180219
Russia is the Reverse Copelord, so things must be pretty grim.
Also, what happened to Fighterbomber after he got sent to the front, any idea what he looked like? Or whether he can be found on drone footage?
Anonymous No.64181378 >>64181558
>>64181222
>are any of those getting repaired or is it all the way to the bottom if ukraine continues the strikes?
they repair them
... in a very russian way
you can repair refineries fairly quickly if you don't car much about safety

typically you'd xray welds and have test pressure runs before going live
at least that's what you do in the civilized world

russia probably just calls it a day before testing anything
and that usually works
bought with a small chance of further leaks and a tiny chance of catastrophic blow ups

though
if the splitter tower is hit, it's over
i don't think they repaired / replaced a single one that was destroyed yet
Anonymous No.64181381 >>64182252 >>64182964
>>64181169
>You'll need a gigantic infrastructure overhaul.
Absolutely, though not even due to the gauge which can be fixed through a plethora of variable gauge systems (just like euro trains do now when going to the baltics or Spain), but rather to upgrade the tracks to high speed standards by most likely building a main line in standard gauge since both euros and china use it already
No sense taking an tgv/ice if you cannot blast 300km/h after all
Japan already uses standard gauge for high speed trains iirc
Anonymous No.64181385
>>64180237
Orban screaming into the ether might just be the best thing about this type of warfare
Anonymous No.64181393 >>64181425 >>64181460
>>64180408
>>64180482
>every time I see it I am reminded of how beautiful large explosions truly are
indeed
Anonymous No.64181402 >>64181454
>>64180542
>>64181328
>>64180537
>>64180480
> What was in the container?
Beer.
Draft beer shops are plentiful, they get beer in those big bottles.
Beer is displaced with CO2 from a high pressure gas cylinder. When beer in it runs out, they usually give it back to manufacturer for reuse, but if it was bought through a middleman, or beer went bad, or something else happened, it is thrown out into the trash.
The pressure inside remains(you can release it manually, but who gives a fuck?), as well as small amount of beer.
Then it heats up in the sun and pressure gets higher, beer starts fermenting again and pressure gets even higher, then a local drunk finds it in a trashcan, grabs it for a sip of free beer and fucking explodes.
Or a kid grabs it for its explosive properties. Or a dog because it bounces around:
(careful, a loud sound)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaMMD0gOfd0
(dog was fine after that)
Anonymous No.64181413 >>64181420 >>64181513
>>64180657
Its not a random commieblock, it was some EU thingy.
https://files.catbox.moe/qizd0w.mp4
Anonymous No.64181415
>>64180996
Italy would only half fuck it up and people would still crawl through a mile of barbed wire to get some shithot Italo-russ fashion and be sipping cognac in a 5-star ski resort with the longest season on earth.
Italy would still fuck it up so bad that people would be knifing each other like wild niggers to have a summer chalet on the Baikal Lake district
Anonymous No.64181420
>>64181413
EU delegation in Kyiv. The building right opposite was struck.
Anonymous No.64181425 >>64182392
>>64181393
>Toropets depot
>107th Arsenal, Main Missile and Artillery Directorate
>In 2012, a program was launched to develop a comprehensive system for safeguarding ammunition in order to reduce the risk of accidental detonations. Funding for this program amounted to 90 billion rubles. The Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu stated that under this program, in 2015 it was planned to produce 454 units in 13 arsenals.
>The 107th Arsenal was modernized within the framework of this programme. 3.5 billion rubles were allocated for the construction of shelters in this territory.
>A modern arsenal was to appear, in compliance with environmental requirements.
>the Russian deputy defense minister claimed that "the site met the 'highest international standards" and could defend against weapons such as missiles and "even a small nuclear attack"

>According to Russian Defense Ministry, all of the 54 Ukrainian drones aimed at western Russian regions were successfully intercepted.[9]
>According to Igor Rudenya, governor of Tver Oblast, debris of a successfully downed Ukrainian drone caused the fire, igniting the ammunition depot and the series of explosions.
>The primary explosion caused a 82 m wide crater[6] and a seismic wave of magnitude 2.5~2.8 on 18 September, 3:56 am, local time

Wonder how much of the 3.5 billion rubles went into someone's dacha, yacht and drugs.
Or maybe the workers just couldn't be assed to actually carry the munitions into the shelters, who knows.
Anonymous No.64181432 >>64181437
That was the catalytic cracking unit. It made shoes, for orphans. Way to go Hero...
Anonymous No.64181437
>>64181432
>speedy thing comes in
>speedy thing comes out
Anonymous No.64181454
>>64181402
>(dog was fine after that)
was it really, thou? :(
Anonymous No.64181460 >>64181658
>>64181393
they're pretty great
Anonymous No.64181462 >>64181534
>>64180804
>air defence shooting in Kyiv
Anonymous No.64181469 >>64181483
>>64180230
The funnest part is the soviet way to deal with shortages: requiring special ration coupons to be redeemed at gas stations on top of paying the price. This always works out so great.
Anonymous No.64181472 >>64181547
>>64180237
Anonymous No.64181483
>>64181469
burgers just barely missed the coupons during '73-'74 oil crisis. they where already printed.
Anonymous No.64181485
>>64180219
>Nostradumbass
Anonymous No.64181513 >>64181725
>>64181413
>The targets? They are not soldiers and weapons, but residential areas in Kiev - shelling civilian buildings, the offices of the EU Delegation and the British mission, and innocent civilians.
>EU Delegation and the British mission
So not really civilians but British and EU spies kek.
Anonymous No.64181523 >>64181550
>>64180608
>Russia is $500-1000
very naive, a ton of people work for less than $300 per month
Anonymous No.64181534 >>64181557 >>64181624
>>64181462
Imagine putting civilian house and tractor killmarks on your warcrime machine, russians are truly evil
Anonymous No.64181536 >>64181567
>>64180757
>>64180753
Literally the first time i have EVER seen AA fire in one of these.

>>64180766
>>64180804
Russia does not have the low level amounts of AA needed nor the sobriety to use it. If only they had an ally with enough AA guns to cover these sorts of targets and the sobriety to use them......

That's crazy though, i mean who is just sitting on 1000 batteries of radar guided ZU-4s right? You might as well wish this imaginary ally had a few hundred semi modernized KS-19s while you were at it...
Anonymous No.64181540
>>64180657
>hurr durr they don't strike civilians specifically, hurr-durr it's bad precision
>douse a double tap on the same commieblock
Anonymous No.64181545
>>64180657
dakka
Anonymous No.64181547
>>64181472
Anonymous No.64181549
>>64180744
>and they won't just let you go
Then they will have to die, but they don't own their delusional "sphere of influence"
Anonymous No.64181550 >>64181592
>>64181523
See >>64180569
The averages are massively pumped up by a couple of percent of people in the biggest cities.
Outside there, many are poor as fuck; the bottom tier shits in pits outside the house and pumps water from a well (probably a few meters away from said pits)
Anonymous No.64181553
>>64180767
>civil war
Pidor propaganda as is
Anonymous No.64181557
>>64181534
that is ukro nazi regime AA anon, tractor for those polaks they killed.
Anonymous No.64181558
>>64181378
This guy gets it. If a distillation column or catalytic cracker goes down that's it, game over for that capacity. Those things are bespoke pieces of incredibly expensive and complex equipment, made to refine a specific kind of crude. They aren't any off the shelf parts, you can't just knock one together in a week or two. Lead times range from months to years depending on expected volume, feedstock, desired fractions, and efficiency. Best part is russia can barely make them domestically, they relied almost entirely on western companies to build new columns.
>but the soviets
The shit to build that equipment is in other countries now, what hasn't been dismantled anyway.
Anonymous No.64181567
>>64181536
>Zooms out
>Alien technology in foreground

AI slop, no such technology exists.
Anonymous No.64181583
>>64180683
>Filling up a car in Russia costs x% more rubles than last year? So Russians still buy gas with money still and they haven't even issued ration cards yet?
1. Price of gas isn't just a random fact about a random product. It's a multiplicator on the overall economy for russia, similar to the price of natural gas or electricity, namely if any of those have to rise it instantly fucks everyone and everything, because it's used by everyone not only in your personal life, but economic agents. Gas became more expensive? It fucks up the transport, both public transport, commercial goods transport and so on. Price of shipping increases. Shipping starts fucking up the prices of goods in stores, of stuff being made in factories and so on. Don't forget the agriculture sector as well. There's a reason why they'd create special subsidies for fuel prices for farms and such.
2. They are in fact ration coupons being issued in some regions, including Crimea.
Anonymous No.64181592
>>64181550
I know. Just because a narrow layer of corrupt faggots earn millions doesn't change the fact that most normies outside moscow earn pennies.
Anonymous No.64181602
>>64181288
excuse me? that's clearly a helicopter destroyer, not a carrier.
Anonymous No.64181605 >>64181616
Do you think they will carve "he never became a woman" on a /chug/tranny's tombstone?
Would be incredibly based, desu.
Anonymous No.64181616 >>64181744
>>64181605
what did these retards do this time?
Anonymous No.64181624
>>64181534
are you seriously so retarded you cant tell thats shooped?
Anonymous No.64181626
>>64180480
New Lada car for his family
Anonymous No.64181658
>>64181460
Anonymous No.64181660
>>64180291
>that visible blastwave
>that cracked windshield
Holy fuck that's soooooo cool
Anonymous No.64181696 >>64181707 >>64181742
What's the update on the refinery bingo? It's been a while since I've seen any new entries.
Anonymous No.64181707 >>64181803
>>64181696
>>64181209
?
Anonymous No.64181725 >>64181738
>>64181513
>British and EU spies
What were they spying on?
Anonymous No.64181738 >>64181746
>>64181725
Whether Ukraine implements anti-corruption measures.
Anonymous No.64181742
>>64181696
The twitter user (i don't remember the name, he has a misaka pic) kinda stop making them because nearly all of them were hit at least once and Ukrainian began to attack fuel depots and weapons factories so it didn't have a lot of activity.
Anonymous No.64181744 >>64182668
>>64181616
The MSP shooter had phrases in Russian written all over the guns, manifesto, etc.
Anonymous No.64181746 >>64181785
>>64181738
Why do you need spies for that?
Anonymous No.64181763
>>64180816
Reminder, Russia has no working nuclear weapons.
Anonymous No.64181785 >>64181796 >>64181801
>>64181746
Because you can't trust the Ukrainian government to tell the truth.
Anonymous No.64181792
They deployed the entirety of lakhta it seems
Anonymous No.64181796
>>64181785
>trusting any government
not gonna make it
Anonymous No.64181801
>>64181785
Anti-corruption measures are up to the parliament and you can see all law drafts on their public website. Are youros really that stupid that they need spies to access that?
Anonymous No.64181803
>>64181707
Y'know it might actually do me good to read the whole thread before replying.
Anonymous No.64181835 >>64181871
>>64181372
>Also, what happened to Fighterbomber after he got sent to the front, any idea what he looked like?
He got mobik'd? I thought he just got too popular in the lower echelons of the Russian Airforce and the higher ups despised him because he kept calling them out so he had to lay low for a while
Anonymous No.64181871
>>64181372
>>64181835
He didn't get sent to the front. He had to voluntarily limit his exposure to actual frontline units and such, e.g. publicly doing fundraising and such, because it would highlight the issues those units are having. I.e. if a unit interacted with faggotboomer, that unit would be put under pressure from the higher ups.
Anonymous No.64181936 >>64181974
I guess now we know why the shills were so assmad last night hehe
Anonymous No.64181974
>>64181936
just sign the paper and stop being delusional
Anonymous No.64182000 >>64182544
Pidorashka, ne vizhi.
Anonymous No.64182085 >>64182113
>>64181134
>>you will take a TGV in Paris to Tokyo

Russia and Europe uses different track widths. So no, not possible.
Anonymous No.64182113
>>64182085
The Shinkansen uses 1435mm standard gauge.
Anonymous No.64182153
>>64181231

A corvette is a boosted missile boat and a frigate is a boosted corvette and a destroyer is a boosted frigate etc etc. A missile boat is just a large torpedo boat but with missiles instead of torpedoes. Ships are usually defined in terms of missions, a missile boat is for anti ship, with little capability elsewhere, while a corvette is antiship as well as antisub (sub chasers and gun sloops were the precursors to modern corvettes). Larger corvettes also have some kind of competent local area air defense missile system. Then you boost the corvette in size, and you get a frigate, with ESSM air defense out to 40 km, anti ship missiles and a sub chasing helicopter.
Anonymous No.64182252 >>64182666 >>64182764 >>64182964
>>64181381
>Absolutely, though not even due to the gauge which can be fixed through a plethora of variable gauge systems

Why? Build new with far wider gauge. The current western gauge (1435 mm) was originally the distance between the wheels of a roman donkey pulled cart. The first trains were pulled by horses, and later someone invented a mobile steam engine that could be used instead of horses, as stationary steam engines replaced horses and ox powered windlasses and pumps everywhere. But the gauge was kept because it was an upgrade, not something new. If the germans had won Europe would be covered by 3 meter wide breitspurbahn tracks by now.
Anonymous No.64182270
>>64181219
>I thought that was a frigate.
>But I'm navaly challenged so if you could enlighten me on the difference?
In general terms?
A cruiser is a large, long-range ocean-going ship intended to go do useful stuff on its own. At this point they usually have massive missile armament and a large gun or two.
Destroyers are usually large escort ships. They used to be intended for defending capital ships and convoys against torpedo boats and eventually subs or air attack. Currently people use the designation as a euphemism for pretty much any warship that's not politically intended for offensive use - the Arleigh Burkes are outright cruisers by any definition of the word, but the US politely pretends they exist as "defensive escorts". Same goes for the Japanese "aviation" ships that are jeep carriers in all but name. It still gets used for the usual escort ships in most of the mid-sized navies. Most of whom are using surplussed WWII or early Cold War destroyers
Frigates are generally smaller patrol ships that have some weapons to deal with capital ships (usually missiles and maybe a ~4-5" automatic cannon). Frigates mostly get sent out on short, dedicated missions instead of wandering around looking for trouble like cruisers. There are also a lot of specialized frigates for jobs like ASW, mine-laying/sweeping, AA, etc. They don't have the storage space or tonnage for long missions or gear for things outside their primary mission. US Coast Guard "cutters" are usually beefy frigates with an aviation deck for running rescue ops (can be converted to anti-submarine work in a hot war).
Corvettes are small coastal patrol boats that are mostly meant for customs enforcement and/or replacing the old short-ranged torpedo boats and monitors. They usually have just enough armament to either launch a couple stand-off attacks against larger vessels or ground targets, board merchants and smugglers to search them, or sink small pirate craft
Anonymous No.64182392
>>64181425
>82 metre wide crater
Fucking hell
Anonymous No.64182544 >>64182726
>>64182000
Anonymous No.64182549
>laktopetukh seething
Kek
Anonymous No.64182579 >>64182588 >>64182593 >>64182599 >>64182668
>>64180162 (OP)
Not to be a downer, but wouldn't global oil prices rise if the russkies can't repair the refineries quickly?

It would be a good indicator of the attacks having their intended effect if brent crude went about 70 or even 80, but so far, it's nowhere near.
Anonymous No.64182588 >>64182638
>>64182579
>markets are rational
Anonymous No.64182593
>>64182579
OPEC is filling the gaps
Anonymous No.64182599 >>64182658
>>64182579
it's the refineries so prices of final product should rise - gas/diesel not crude
https://card-oil.ru/fuel-cost/moskva/?period=year
Anonymous No.64182638 >>64182652 >>64182691 >>64182707
>>64182588
I know markets aren't rational, but they can explain something in a more neutral manner sometimes. Like, if people thought the attacks had a great effect, prices would rise. Like how the oil prices spiked when Iran threatened to close the Hormuz. Ended up being a nothingburger, but the market was a pretty decent way to determine the gravity of the situation.

I guess if the oil prices rise substantially the following days, it means at least people think it will have an effect. It may still have an effect even if the prices stay the same or fall, but it's not as good of an indicator as a rise in prices.
Anonymous No.64182652 >>64182707
>>64182638
Oil trade works on futures, that is, supplies are traded in batches on the *expected* prices, not real-time. The market's expectation is that the rest of the world's producers can ramp up production (they're all holding back to avoid driving prices too far down, like, all the fucking time), therefore the futures trade on modest or no price increases.
Anonymous No.64182658
>>64182599
That makes sense, maybe a better indicator would be global natural gas prices or something. At least that went up quite nicely today.
Anonymous No.64182660
>>64180162 (OP)
>makes a thread
>doesn't make a webm
yeah, no, bye
Anonymous No.64182666
>>64182252
>Why? Build new with far wider gauge.
makes no sense when half the world uses standard gauge already, switching russia, or at building a main line in 1435 would give you straight access from UK/France to China/Korea

>If the germans had won Europe would be covered by 3 meter wide breitspurbahn tracks by now.
That was a meme, one of the ideas people dangled in front of Hitler like jingling keys to get cushy jobs, not even the Brunel's 2meter wide gauge went anywhere
If you want peak autismo megaprojects than i've got just the thing for you, the the Bering strait intercontinental railway, and since North America is standard gauge you could even go to Mexico
Anonymous No.64182668 >>64182962
>>64181744
>The MSP shooter had phrases in Russian written all over the guns, manifesto, etc

wut?

.t been inna nature for the past 2 weeks.

>>64182579
Russia's impact on gas prices outside of India and China is miniscule since the start of the war. These are refineries being hit, not oil wells, and Russia has banned export of refined petroleum products a long time ago (2023?) In order to combat internal costs at the pump.

This is also why Biden's hissy fit when Ukraine started forcefully downsizing Russia's petroleum industry makes no sense.
Anonymous No.64182691 >>64182748
>>64182638
There's no genuine fear that there's going to be shortage of the GLOBAL supply of oil going.

The oil producing countries are actually putting the throttle on their productions to keep the price at where they want, if Russia were to get absolutely blasted out of the market, OPEC would just crank out more to make up the difference. It would rise prices but it'll drop down anyway. It's just 17% of 1/10th of the global supply, which amounts to 1.7% of the global supply

Another aspect is the fact that there's many layers of market forces between the refineries in Russia and the analysts. Russian oil has to -> get pumped->refined (Ukies enter the chat)->shipped out to India/3rd countries->laundered->sold on international market. All this is done on a discount because of the sanctions.
Anonymous No.64182707
>>64182652
>>64182638
Futures are basically an agreement that at a given point in time in the future you're gonna be able to sail your tanker to a port and pick up a load of oil at a price agreed in advance, regardless of what it actually costs at the tap at that point. If you buy high but there's no strong upward trend in the price, you obviously incur a loss. Even though you're basically turning around in the next minute and selling your oil (as a future) to a refinery. Or if you're the refinery, you're buying the oil future at market price and hoping you'll be able to pass the price onto the wholesalers that buy your refined products.

This is all grossly oversimplified of course, but basically - the futures market dampens price swings because it creates inertia and buffers in supply. A price spike requires significantly bigger movements in the market, something like OPEC/OPEC+ deciding to slash supply by 10% because they want more money. A couple of bombings aren't going to move the needle at global scale, meaning the situation is rather neatly contained within russia.
Anonymous No.64182726 >>64182739
>>64182544
Anonymous No.64182739
>>64182726
too sophisticated for me, I don't get it
Anonymous No.64182748 >>64182984
>>64182691
>which amounts to 1.7% of the global supply

That's actually a lot.

But again, not like it matters, since you idiots keep missing the point that it is REFINERIES being hit and Russia STOPPED ALL REFINED PRODUCTS EXPORTS like two years ago.
Anonymous No.64182764
>>64182252
>The current western gauge (1435 mm) was originally the distance between the wheels of a roman donkey pulled cart.
The point is otherwise correct, but to my understanding that's not quite where it came from:
>4'8Β½" (1435mm) became standard in much of the world as a result of it being standardized in the UK, which was a major player in early years of rail transport
>the UK government standardized this gauge because they had more existing track in that size than alternatives, in the Liverpool & Manchester Railway and others George Stephenson (and later his son Robert) had been employed to develop following the L&MR's success
>L&MR was built in this gauge because it was the same gauge used in the earlier Stockton & Darlington Railway, making it possible to connect them in the future
>S&DR, built to transport coal from local mines to the Stockton harbor, was built in this gauge to accommodate the 4'8" (1422mm) gauge wagons these mines were already using on their existing horse-drawn railways, slightly widened by half an inch to reduce binding in corners
Horse-drawn railways were never previously standardized and had plenty of regional variation (I guess compatibility wouldn't be an issue when it's just for one location), but existed in a vaguely similar range of over 4' and up to 5', on account of the fact that all would be built to effectively accommodate a carthorse.
Given no fundamental changes in equid biology over the past millennia, it can be presumed that any similarity in the gauge of ancient vehicles is just because they likewise found it a roughly ideal size for the beast to pull.
Anonymous No.64182962 >>64183022
>>64182668
Schizo commie Nazi troon MAGApede enraged by lack of Epstein list shot a bunch of Catholic school children through the sanctuary windows at a beginning of school year Mass in St. Paul, Minnesota. Killed 2, wounded 17, took shim’s own life before the police responded.

Manifesto looks like an Ivan Chesnikov greentext from 2006, lots of English written in vodka runes that approximate Latin letters. Wrote β€œKill Trump” on a gun, drew a swastika on a mag, had a bunch of LGBT imagery on their stuff too.

People are looking for political motive in the mind of a crazy, yet again.
Anonymous No.64182964
>>64181169
>>64182252
>>64181381
Russian rail lines are such shit that the FUCKING NORKS are installing electrified dual gauge rails in the far east so they can use Russia's antiquated lines with their standard gauge rolling stock.

The really funny part is alot of Nork rolling stock and engines are copies of mid cold war stock so the DPRK is finally helping Russian rails enter the 1960s and the electrification lets them be finally equal to France from 100+ years ago.
Anonymous No.64182984
>>64182748
>STOPPED ALL REFINED PRODUCTS EXPORTS like two years ago.
Russia banned small resalers from exporting refined products. Russia allowed larger players to sell them on and off again
Anonymous No.64183010 >>64183020
>>64180162 (OP)
Is there an up-to-date bingo of total refineries death? I'm getting lost at this point, too much has been happening in the last few days
Anonymous No.64183020 >>64183217
>>64183010
In this month Ukraine hit 22% of Russian refining capacity. There weren't such shortages of petroleum even during peak of bombing in 2023 or 2024
Anonymous No.64183022 >>64183207
>>64182962
It was a troon. They're known threats to children.
Anonymous No.64183187
What if
>Get a bunch of engineers together and have them determine what the most efficient rail gauge possible is with modern tech, ie; as wide as possible for maximum size train cars but not so wide that it makes building tunnels or bridges prohibitively expensive
Yes building a whole new transcontinental rail line with all new locomotives etc would be a HORRIBLY expensive endeavor, but it's the kind of investment that would easily pay for itself after the first few trains able to carry 4x the cargo rolls into it's first stop.
That and the fact that I'd be willing to bet with modern tech you could build some kind of rail-assembling train monstrosity that can literally pave and lay it's own rail in front of it, (obviously you would need to have crews moving in front of the train to clear trees rocks etc), and even if it was going at a rather slow speed it could still be far more efficient just from a logistics perspective.
Anonymous No.64183207
>>64183022
Yes. It is a prerequisite for trooning out that you are nuttier than a shithouse rat, and that’s before you start fucking your brain with endogenous hormones. Looking into the political affiliations of a troon is a waste of time, because such things are volatile, not communicated sincerely, and contradictory.
Anonymous No.64183217
>>64183020
You could say they've taken the gloves off.
Anonymous No.64183221
>>64181134
SOON