Thread 64181768

Rheinmetall to invest over a billion Euro in Bulgaria, aiming to build Europe's largest gunpowder plant.
EVROPA is waking up and healing. It just takes time.
Now if France would stop being such chickenshits, we might actually get to see proper EU weapons projects.

>>64181768 (OP)
I wonder if Bulgaria’s impending Euro adoption makes this sort of project easier.
Seems like it would.

>>64181768 (OP)
I see, the Freuding Doctrine

i wonder how worst korea will take it, considering that they're one of the biggest exporters of mortar and artillery shells for nato

We really should be thanking monke for being so inept that the three day SMO has gone on long enough that Euros are actually taking rearmament seriously before the great chang chimpout inevitably happens.
>but chyna won't ever attack because they'd get btfo!
The exact same thing was said about Russia, you can't expect irrational actors to act rationally. Pooh bear is getting old and undoubtedly the "make taiwan china again" itch is getting worse by the day.

>>64181851
Most likely.
The ziggers have been losing their minds over euro adoption. It's been hilarious to watch those retarded freaks chimp out over it like there's no tomorrow.

>>64181768 (OP)
>nice gunpowder plant you got there, it would be would be a shame if something happened to It
https://www.hazardexonthenet.net/article/116045/Two-killed-in-blast-at-Bulgarian-arms-plant.aspx

>Plant directly next to Russia's sea border
What a wise idea, just build this provocation on Russia's doorstep and expect nothing to happen. LOL.

>>64182452
>Russia's sea border
soon to be ukraine's sea border™

>>64182380
I’ve been plugged into Moldovan politics this year. It’s so weird that the Pro-Russian stance in Eastern European politics is often disguised as “Let’s just be friends with both sides”.
Who the fuck is actually dumb enough to believe that such a thing can exist?

>>64182380
Just two more weeks, correct?

>>64182411
>target bulgaria
>drive them into the EU's arms
I cannot comprehend those 5d chess moves.

>>64182452
Yea, nothing's gonna happen aside from some half-assed sabotage attempts that'll accomplish fuckall.

>>64182411
>our enemies have made mistakes before, therefore they will make the same mistake again in the future

>>64182452
>provocation
get rangebanned, thirdie

>>64182352
Yeah in 2020 if you told me in 5 years Finland and Sweden would be NATO members and European countries would increase their own defense spending to 5% GDP I'd call you crazy.

>>64182452
Rheinmetall security VILL shoot your saboteurs and you VILL seethe about it.

>>64181768 (OP)
How comes they don’t build in Germany despite the German economy being in free fall right now? Since 2022, 200K Germans have lost their jobs because of German companies closing their German locations

>>64182465
>Who the fuck is actually dumb enough to believe that such a thing can exist?
In Romania's case, the people most susceptible to this propaganda are the barely sentient countryside retards living in conditions from several centuries ago. They eat this shit up like there's no tomorrow.
Dunno how it is in other Eastern European countries though.

>>64182893
>The Rheinmetall arms manufacturer opened a new factory at its existing site in Unterlüss in northern Germany on Wednesday
They do

>>64181768 (OP)
lancet target practice)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>64182963
Do it Zigger

>>64182465
A lot of pro-russian eastern euros are self aware enough that they understand that cheering for russia openly is borderline subhuman behaviour, even if they can't help it. That's how you end up with all the "we just want the killing to stop, so ukraine must capitulate" takes.
And yeah, at least in my corner of the Baltics there's enough people to gobble that shit up, alongside the "why waste our tax dollars on a foreign war" rhetoric you'd hear from Tim Pool types. Far from a majority, but enough to be a sizeably loud minority, and not just among the russian speakers.

>>64182465
Personally as a right winger I hate how terminal contrarianism has made anti-immigration parties also pro-Russia. It’s fucking stupid

>>64183208
It's not just contrarianism. Many of those parties have been infiltrated and/or funded by the kremlin.

>>64182452
>bark bark bark
>reeeee

>>64182452
>>sea border
are you retarded by chance

>>64183303
Did you ask him or simply state the obvious?

>>64183166
>Tim Pool types
You'd think exposing him and the others as payed shills would mean some kind of fallout, and not an invite to the WH press room

>>64183560
There is no common sense in our cursed timeline.

>>64181851
>>64182380
Currently, Sofia (the capitol) is flooded with anti-Euro posters and ads made by a zigger ex-mp and some other rightwing zigger, who together have created a youtube channel of the "what the rulers don't want you to know" kind, and whose sponsorship is unknown, but likely Monke-adjacent.
Ziggers are truly seething at this point. They tried everything, including a what was supposed to be a nation-wide protest to step over the laws and constitution and annul the EU accession document clause for the Eurozone by "the will of the people". They got about 5k total people in the whole country.

>>64183208
The day the war started was really a big wake up call on who thinks with their own brain and who is just a terminal case contrarian. By far the vast majority of the anti-immigration people I know (I know a lot, IRL and not-IRL) are also extremely anti-Russian, but there were notable few who went full on into the whole "NATO generals in tunnels under azovstahl"-narrative, even though it's completely contradictory to their supposed patriotism.
I'm just glad my countries anti-immigrant party is very anti-Russian, though I know some very low level people who buy into at least some flavours of the propaganda.

>>64183626
I am sorry to hear that. Here's hoping that after January 1st, these ziggers realize that it's over, and stop flooding the information space with this shit.

>>64183699
You call for common sense, but the mind of the zigger works in mysterious ways.

>>64183699
$5 says that even when the whole monkeperium collapses, chang-and-the-gang will pick up the slack (they know it works wonders at dividing/weakening the West)

>>64183843
This is the Balkans. It takes Slavs to play on the PvP server. Bugmen are not built for this kind of free-for-all conflicts.

>>64181768 (OP)
Do we truly need gunpowder in an age of drones?

>>64182452
That's the thing with forever wars. While Russia is busy with one, all their enemies can do anything they want.

>>64183863
>The new plant will produce 155 mm artillery shells. In its first year, the newly established enterprise is expected to produce around 100,000 such shells. The construction of a drone manufacturing plant is also under discussion.
Well...

>>64183884
Exactly what the Soviet Union gained from Vietnam. By the time of the Carter Admin, the Brezhnev build-up had put Soviet conventional forces in a serious advantage over NATO.

>>64181768 (OP)
>building it outside of western Europe
This is just asking to get cruisemissiled

>>64182352
>thinking the drawn-out SMO is a win for us
Putin's enjoying it.
The war's outcome of remilitarizing Europe was very clearly designed to finally kill the EU
>t. EU citizen
We either form the U.S.E. or take the path of failed South American economies, we can't take 5% GDP spending on funz under this system, the "free healthcare" and social state are too expensive to run that kind of military budget, and given our political class, I'd take the absolute economic ruin over a U.S.E. any day of the week.
>inb4 economic ruin is a meme bogeyman
My coworker was put on a TWO YEAR WAITING LIST for hemorrhoid surgery and the city has had a closed-down bridge for years now which is neither being safely dismantled nor repaired/replaced because there isn't the budget to do anything about it.
That morally necessary war embargo was a masterclass of forcing us to magdump ourselves in the feet to save face.
To top it off, Red Chinese money is buying out failing businesses all around me, people working at these neighboring companies tell me they have fucking real-life Chinese Chinamen from actual China personally keeping tabs on things and siphoning off any new IP straight from the source back to the Heavenly Kingdom.
I guess if you're Defense you won't have a designated spotting chink looking over your shoulder, but it's now a thing in the EU private sector.
I'm counting my blessings that our CEO didn't run this company into the ground yet.

>>64183894
Yeah, forever wars have been a mistake no matter who's doing it since the days of Agamemnon.

>>64182452
>THIS IS THE FINAL RED LINE BLYAT!
lmao you trade thousands of men for parking lots, you'll never reach kiev, much less bulgaria's borders.

>>64183945
Didn't the German PM or president say that Germany's welfare state is unsustainable?

>>64181768 (OP)
What is the security like in all these shell factories in the Balkans?

>>64183945
>Europe rearming is actually Poutine's master plan!
Wow, I guess he actually was a CIA plant all along. I guess that's the only reasonable explanation for why a leader would throw literally over a million of his serfs into mass graves instead of just... developing the land they already have.
But I suppose if Russians were actually capable of developing their land they wouldn't be needing to go pillage their neighbors for Ikea furniture and toilets in the first place. I would imagine it's pretty depressing to know that your nation is possibly the single most natural resource rich one in the world but you can't even use any of it since building infrastructure would mean your Oligarch lords can't get a new yacht this month. But then that would require the Russian people to have enough of a spine to actually stand up for themselves.

Oh and by the way, "muh tax dollars" doesn't work when quality of life in Europe is the highest it's been in history despite the hordes of brownoids and constant stream of troon media. But go ahead and keep trying, surely it's going to work eventually right? After all, we can just look at the quality of life in Russia to see how "good" we could have it instead!

>>64183945
im from berlin oblast and this is all true. very concerning

>Curious about how the ongoing deindustrialization and depopulation of Russia is going
>Look up NASA nighttime light data
>Going to go through and circle every light source that goes dark between 2020 and 2025
>After about 10 minutes of circling disappearing towns realize that this is going to take an entire week or more
wew lad I think it's more grim than even we realized, I lost track around 75 towns that either no longer produce light at night or have been totally depopulated and are now abandoned.
Surely the tsar doesn't know the plight of his peasants???

>>64184063
>What is the security like in all these shell factories in the Balkans?
Heavy. Army, tanks, AA... Now with Rheinmetall I would expect to see also Gepards, SHORAD, anti-drone shenanigans, basically a showcase of everything the krauts can throw.

>>64183945
Very concerning. I must tell my colleagues at Brusselburg about this.

>>64182352
I honestly want Xi to attack because imagine how awesome the naval battles will look. Be like a Macross battle but you know Western forces have actual AD so you can enjoy it knowing the outcome.

>>64183852
they will train their SlavBot LLM algorithms to imitate one. Not like its particularly difficult if you implement some basic slang and basic rules. like how sentences dont end with a punctuation mark but some kind of swear word

never underestimate the propaganda and censorship ministries of these shitpile tyrants. its the only thing where they excel at compared to open and porous western societies

>>64184047
They all say that to try get the anti immigration votes while doing completely opposite decisions that only hurt the middle class.

>>64184279
even a singular light source is one too many for this aggressive cancerous tumor. TZD is the only known and effective cure

>>64184402
To be fair, just because it's king bullshitter Merz saying it doesn't mean it's not true.
The European welfare state was possible only in times of peace and/or blissful ignorance.
For what it's worth, Europe no longer providing the social nets it did will also make it far less attractive for foreigners.

>>64182994
Quick rundown on this image please. Did zisters get koteled in Pokrovsk?

>>64183560
I still can't cope with the fact that modern chuds are all Russia shills because GWOT and the Arab Spring were such a disaster for US geopolitical optics. One day chuds will call for a federalized EU that will build 1000 nukes.

>>64183626
I'm honestly getting tired of retards claiming how everything is going to cost double, or "look what happened with the Greeks" and how Germans are gonna steel our savings. It's all so tiresome.

>>64182465
>Who the fuck is actually dumb enough to believe that such a thing can exist?

Soviet-era boomers and pseudo-nationalists.

>>64185472
>"look what happened with the Greeks"
While at the same time whining that Greeks get paid twice what Bulgarians do.

>>64185438
>vatniks claim they totes have reached the center of Pokrovsk
>turns out it's 5 faggots on scooters who snuck between the lines

>>64183560
It's because the people in charge like the government he was shilling for, no more, no less.

>>64185502
>see these infiltration tactics work!
>so how do you follow up and support the fire team that snuck in, they have enough go sustain themselves until relief arrives right?
>...... Ukraine is out of Manpower!!!!

>>64183945
Ahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

>>64185472
>>64185448
from experience: merchants will jack up the prices anyway because they can - since dumb people won't argue. "oh right, euro, that makes sense, this is all the EU's fault"

(nevermind the fact that it was pegged to the Euro before the Euro was even released)

>>64185588
>relief

>>64185622
>from experience: merchants will jack up the prices anyway because they can
This happened in all countries when the Euro was adapted.
Corporate greed is one hell of a drug.

It still beats having dozens of seperate currencies. Most of the time.

>>64184279
>Going to go through and circle every light source that goes dark between 2020 and 2025
that sounds like something that could be done much more easily using AI

>>64185665
As in death

>>64185622
>>64185673
>prices go up with euro adoption
the real reason for this is mostly harmonization the prices of neighboring euro countries
still not great

on the other hand, euro also supercharged economic growth every where it was adopted
>Croatia
real wages went up 9% in 2023 with double prices
and again 15% in 2024 with full euro
that's one of the biggest growths in the world last year

>>64185438
Obviously, like what did we even expect to happen? The media was overreacting like some WW2 push with hunderds of T-34s was imminent, meanwhile russia has:
>No tanks
>No trucks
>No capable officers
>No trained reserves
All things essential for manouver warfare. In reality russia and ukraine are reduced to probing attacks and lobbing shells/drones at each other. Ofc it ends in the brave breakthrough boys getting surrounded and droned to death.

>>64182352
what do we care about china
it's putin's and donnie's problem

>>64185943
China is a problem because they'll piss away any chance of keeping Europe out of a potential war with their wolf warrior bullshit sooner or later.

>>64185673
>>64185622
And you will keep buying like a good little wage cuck, while complaining about the euro, or the mafia.

>>64184063
piss poor in Bulgaria so far. Private (as in producer) ammo depots have been blowing up with some regularity for like 10 years now. Most belong to an arms trader that was dealing with Ukraine since 2014. The ziggers tried to poison him and his son with Novichock back in 2015-16, before Salisbury.
For some reason lessons haven't been learned IMO, because there are still random fires in depots now and then.
Meanwhile the chad Albanians not only stopped some zigger saboteurs, but also shot one of them a year, or two back.
Doesn't help thath the president is a pathetic zigger dick rider and has been filling the security services with other russian whores.
Really this feels so dissappointing

>>64181768 (OP)
...and it's annual output will roughly match what russia produces every four weeks. if that.

>>64186196
that's what flamingos are for

>>64186381
> fagmingos being just presented
> ukie-fans expect miracles from them
> western wonder-waffers memoryholed tightly

>>64186151
>comparing random commie depots with Rheinmetall factories for the future Wehrmacht

>>64186390
>meme arrows have a space behind them
>uses "wunderwaffe", which only ziggers use unironically

>>64185448
Less Federation and more Imperium leaning for a safe and secure Europa against foreign adversaries

>>64181851
It's likely, it makes business easier. Although Bulgaria's currency has been pegged to the euro (and the deutsche mark before that) for literally decades at this point, so not much will change in practice.

>>64186393
Operation Barbarossa 2: electric boogaloo. Forget the two Corporals, third time lucky.

>>64183945
I am very concerned. I will contact my entire continent's governments and plead for peace with Russia. They must be appeased at all cost!

>>64186410
I am all for an European Imperium if it's "Nationalistic" and Xenophobic.

>>64186196
Why has the artillery ratio been narrowing if the Russians are producing so much artillery?

>>64184169
Spengler pointed out steppe born peoples have a morosse and servile attitude
>but le mongols
They had to deal with mountain ranges and the Gobi desert and land wasn't as fertile ad Russia's.
In truth russian imperialism oriented towards the west is the result of Peter the Great wanting them to larp as european, this is why their elites love to act like westerners but never get it right, all of them are boyards who took all the wrong attitudes of europeans while keeping those of asians as seen in this war.

>>64186736
>elites love to act like westerners but never get it right
that's the important bit, they want to act like not be like
so they will buy the material trappings and get some of the surface level behavior act like. but they do not want to adopt the mentality, culture and norms that originate those behavior and the material culture.
so drinking champange, great
dedicating your life to being a gentleman craftsman that make champange, that's for the serfs

>>64182452
What, are they going to sail more ships into the black Sea for Ukraine to eat?

>>64181768 (OP)
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250827-defence-giant-rheinmetall-opens-mega-plant-as-europe-rearms
Eyebrow status?
Prussian Spirit Status?

>>64186953
>Eyebrow status?
Dangerously raised.

>>64186390
Don't even dare to downplay effect of high-precision rocket strikes on the current theatre.

>>64186736
>>64186762
I do wonder how much of a permanent mark the Russian oligarchs even left on London. A ton of rich Russians seemed to think that London was THE place to be in Europe.
There were some idiots who were claiming that all of London high-society and business was beholden to the Russians, but that is clearly not the case.

>>64187114
Nothing a few sacks of concrete and some manual labor wouldnt fix

>>64186606
Depends on which nationality gets the "nationalistic" part

>>64185675
Probably, but not only do I not care enough to make an AI do it, but there would likely be a lot of false positives because each day's photo is a lot different than the other because of clouds etc, so I had to pick two arbitrary dates in 2020 and 2025 that had good photos, and even then a lot of them are hard to tell if something is darker or just a bit blurry in the new photo.

>>64187588
Serbia ofc

>>64183560
There was Republican Roman sentiment about that; it's perfectly reasonable for someone to be a bought dog (I mean everyone's gotta make money, right?), but if they don't stay bought then they are dishonorable.
>>64184396
Light is a wectoid luxury for the lazy and degenerate.
>>64185679
You're making me jealous.
>>64186762
Always want to be gangsta until it's time to do gangsta shit.

>>64185675
>AI

>>64184279
>wew lad I think it's more grim than even we realized, I lost track around 75 towns that either no longer produce light at night or have been totally depopulated and are now abandoned.
interesting stuff, got some city names?
i'd like to check them out on streetview/yandex, russia is a goldmine of shit in that regard

>>64182452
>What a wise idea, just build this provocation on Russia's doorstep and expect nothing to happen. LOL.
also directly next to turkey, which will attack greece in a few years. germans are so incredibly painfully naive when it comes to military stuff. that factory will not survive the next war in europe.

>>64181864
I'd call it the "more munitions to kill more mobiks better" doctrine but you do you

>>64186039
China has been doing a massive charm offensive towards Europe, sensing opportunity to split them from the US ever since Trump was elected.

>>64187412
Not great, not terrible.

>>64186393
who is going to staff them Hans ?

>>64188864
Russian femboys converted from captured pows

>>64184047
Yeah but it’s a no brainer since all the migrants that come here live off gibs despite being supposed to replace all the baby boomers that are retiring now. Not gonna lie the way it’s going we might actually become an Islamic state.

If I bet on Polymarket that Russia will lose as hard as possible, will I get rich?

>>64190902
odds are you are betting against Russians, so no.

>>64185448
>tfw russophile gigachud
>but support ukraine because russia losing would be good for my country
Please ghost of Bismarck just give me a heart attack and let me rest in the fires of hell. There's nothing left on this gay earth except to watch American and Chinese companies buy out the soil from beneath my feet.

>>64187588
Roman. There can be no other choice since pretty much every European country has some "claim" to that identity.

>>64186151
didn't bulgaria always have this gross simp complex for ziggers? That put even US to shame. remember some episode back in the vatnik union where they even tried to appeal to become another SSR.

anyway worst and most rabid zegroid posters I've come across the net have been majority bulgarian. like straight up wannabe tyrant tankie level across the border

>>64187245
due to finance regulation London, alongside other places like Cyprius, pananama and Malta, was/is a prime corridor to channel out stolen cash from pozzia via fronts. unlike the other places though it was perceived as a large city and "worthy" place to settle for a zigger imperialist. Zegroids in general like to huddle up into large population centers. They very much act like cockroaches in more then one category

>>64188754
>which will attack greece in a few years.
TWO MORE YEARS.

Turks have their hands full with the middle east new clients like Syria and the opened up opportunities in the Caucasus. Greece is too well armed to be an easy mark and it wont go anywhere beyond militant rhetoric

>>64188754
Bulgaria has been operating arms factories since forever.
https://www.arsenal-bg.com/
https://vmz.bg/

Weapons exports have at least tripled in the last 10 years.

>>64190979
>didn't bulgaria always have this gross simp complex for ziggers?

Tsar Russia threw out the Ottomans out of Bulgaria. I am talking about the turks, not sofas. Everyone in the Balkans hate turks for good historical reasons. That's your reason.

>>64182285
They really have more important matters to worry about than euros making their own shells.

>>64190979
>didn't bulgaria always have this gross simp complex for ziggers?
Our half-dead boomers do, yes. Propaganda and gulaghomo does this to a person.

>>64188838
They'd still fuck it up eventually.

>>64183626
some new pro zigger party here in Norway launched a large ad campaign on public transport in the capital before the elections. A mix of commies and other zigger sympathizer filth. They ended up stopping the ad campaign because people kept methodically ripping all their posters down and trashing them

>>64182452
I. Wish. A. Zigger. Would.

>>64182352
Have you ever taken a look at a map? China is nowhere near Europe and Europe doesn't have any natural resources anyway. China's population is shrinking so they don't need "room to grow" and Europe trades with China so their workers are already wage slaves.
Any war is going to be because China came out more than 13 miles from their shores and "only white people are allowed Freedom of Navigation." It's not going to involve 155mm artillery.

>>64194102
And Japan is half a world away from the US and Britain, but WWII still had both of them get involved. And that was before anyone had bombers that can fly from the continental US to Iran without ever needing to land. Do you really think that Europe is just going to sit on the sidelines and say "good luck lads" if The Great Chink Happening starts? Much better to be prepared for it than scrambling to get everything set up after things kick off. Especially since, personally, I would expect China to seek out allies in other areas of the world, ie; Venezuela, Iran, whatever, so even if Europe doesn't get directly involved in the Chinkening they'd still have their own issues to deal with if Iran starts chimping out or Monke starts getting hundreds of thousands of chinsects to throw at the wall and see what sticks.

>>64194136
Three years ago I would've definitely agreed to that. Now that Trump is speedrunning the end of friendly transatlantic relations and CHina is already set to become the bigger and more important trading partner of the EU? I'm not so sure anymore.

>>64194163
The one thing about Trump that no amount of his whining, kicking, or screaming can change is that he is old and unhealthy, and everyone knows it. Even if he tries to crown himself King of America he's only got a few years left in him. Most euros I know are simply smiling and nodding at the senile old fuck as he tries his best to fuck everything up, waiting patiently for him to fuck off or die so things can get back to normal.

>>64183945
>We either form the U.S.E.
DO IT
ROME MVST RETVRN

>>64194200
It will never get back to normal. Newt Gingrich and Fox News set the Republican party down the path of reactionary belief based on partisan lies, and the base won't accept any narrative other than their hate is right and just.

>>64194318
My hope, naive as it may be, is that once the consequences of monke's big adventure finally make his empire of rust fall apart and the outside money funnel directly contributing to that is cut off things might actually improve for the Republicans.
My more fatalistic, and I think likely, opinion however is that all the Oligarchs will flee the sinking ship and instead start directly infecting the US using the nice red carpet they've been setting up for themselves in the Republican party is pretty much just what they need to start spreading their cancer directly here instead of needing useful idiots and quislings for it. I can only hope that US glowies are not completely compromised and preparing for this inevitability.
If Oligarchs that try to flee here start having conveniently timed heart attacks I'll probably send a "thank you for your service" email to the CIA.

>>64194348
>>64194318
You motherfuckers do not own a single gun yet you pollute /k/ all day

>>64194427
Why do you zipperheads keep thinking that euros dont have guns?

>>64190979
Sigh. If I only had the freedom to deal with them.

>>64182486
The US is probably going to do another Nordstream.

The pro-zigger party is staging protests today in front of the Arsenal plant, claiming that the 1bil investments are actually heckin bad for the environment, and seeing that Von der Layen is here, she is not welcome because whatever other reasons.

>>64182411
290 thousand in 8 month

>>64195278
Yes, 15 peoples gathered. It's over

>>64194200
There is still couch fucker to deal with. I have no doubt he'll continue most of the stupid shit that trump has started because that's how many of the republicans are.

>>64195278
>in front of the Arsenal plant
You mean the VMZ plant.

>>64183945
>Putin's enjoying it.
>The war's outcome of remilitarizing Europe was very clearly designed to finally kill the EU

>>64195278
Ah, yes. The Zigger playbook. Disguise their Pro-Russia intentions by lying and using a more mainstream argument.
>"Moldova shouldn't build power lines to Romania because of LE SOVEREIGNTY"

>>64186736
>Spengler
Spengler also said that all empires fail due to increasing civil distress, draconian laws then eventual disbanding. He only got part of this right. Though if we follow his logic, USA is in the autumn/winter phase of empire. But it also means Russia isn't even in it, despite their flailing. China is essentially an empire in all but name because it's about 48 different ethnicities all crushed under the party.

>>64182411
>>nice gunpowder plant you got there, it would be would be a shame if something happened to It
why does it have to always be Russians invading places? why can't the Bulgarians take back the ancestral volga region for once?

>>64194427
I own a gun! Only one... :^(
Sadly I cannot justify getting any more than the one I have because pic related.

>>64195278
>nobody called this guy out on shilling for Ursula fucking Von der Layen
This board is soooo dead lmfao
Btw in her speech she claimed that Russia was responsible for the refugee crisis in the EU

>>64196652
Hate to arouse your anger, but I kinda like the EU technocrats.

>>64196652
>Russia was responsible for the refugee crisis in the EU
After Merkel, Putin did the second worst damage through the coordinated migrant wave pushes from Belarus.

>>64196652
>russia is responsible for the refugee crisis in the EU
in large part yeah
>intentionally destabilizes africa and the middle-east
>intentionally targets ukraine's grain shipments to europe, hoping food shortages cause even more migrants to attempt to get to europe
>intentionally imports millions of shitskins and sends many straight through their own country into poland and finland
>is one of the major reasons why such a large amount of syria's population tried to escape to europe
>some of the 5th columnist pro-russians in the west intentionally try to cause more third-world migration to europe as this is beneficial for russia
the traitors neutral to russia actually allowing these things in is one thing but the origin of many of these mass migrations is abso-fucking-lutely because of russia, are you delusional or just disingenuous?

>>64196823
*grain shipments to the middle-east

>>64196565
>Sadly I cannot justify getting any more than the one I have because pic related.
Ruger Wranglers and Kel-tec P32's are pretty cheap though. Justify it as a quasi backup and range toy gun.
...Wait I forgot I'm in a Euro thread so I dunno if those are even available there. Which EU;SSR state are you from anyway Euro bro?

>>64196823
Merkel (and the EU as a whole) severely mismanaged the crisis, if we're talking about 2015, so a decent chunk of blame should be put on them. A harsher stance on immigration also would have killed far-right populism at it's root.
But anything past that (and especially in the last few years), the fault is squarely on russia.

>>64196823
>EU decided to welcome "refugees" for whatever reason there is
>now the problem why there's so many niggers in here is because muh russia
lmao no, russia just used the open gates europe has set on the migrants but in reality all the migrant issue was because some retard decided it'll be funny to start an uprising in the arab world and when gaddafi died.
>inb4 this retard is going to say that russia is at fault for this too

A look to USA show where the imperial, militaristic politics of the Western bloc is moving. Inside the country, racist, sexist and in general anti-human suppressive policy run on full speed, while outside expansion plans, state interests and threats with military force are shown openly. This is complete breaking of limits of capitalist and patriarchal rule, which depend mostly on military power.

Decisions about war and peace in interest of ruling system, as deals between the big powers USA, Russia and China, as we see now, cause anger from war politicians in EU, who feel themselves ignored. The new way of dividing tasks inside NATO camp make completely unrealistic dream of prolonging war in Ukraine and push forward desire for militaristic shaping of society.

The EU states, especially Germany and France, take this situation as reason to follow their own great-power fantasies even more directly. Here we see war industry, Rheinmetall at first line, again become the next close ally.

>>64196861
Did CharGPT write this?

>>64196869
Sort of. It's a real text of some commie "Rheinmetall Entwaffnen" protest group from Germany, put through ChatGPT with the prompt to make it sound like ESL babble.

>>64181768 (OP)
>let's build a single and only plant in one place
>having multiple smaller factories scattered around our territory to avoid a deadly sabotage ? lol lmao that never happened
these retards will never learn

>>64196879
>He thinks that this is the only new 155mm plant in Europe.

>>64196869
It was actually SaarGPT

>>64196887
unlike you, i can read nigger, building one huge plant especially for strategic ammunition like that is nothing but a mistake in future warfares.
having multiple plants of a smaller scattered on the territory is better, that way the plants out of range from enemy sabotage/artillery/air support can still build ammunition even if the others are destroyed or damaged.
the only reason to put one big plant is because you have an absolute wall of defense ready to intercept absolutely everything thrown at it around said factory

>>64196879
Economies of scale, anon. This is the plant for *peace*time production. Wartime production facilities would naturally be more heavily distributed, but the expectation is that if/when Russia tries to do its usual thing, they'll go for one or two countries at a time at most, trying to leverage hesitancy among other NATO members and drive a wedge between the baltics and the rest of Europe (cue vatnik propaganda).

And if stuff gets hotter than that, well, central Europe is literally the factory that makes factories nowadays, just churning them out like a conveyor belt.

>>64196898
Good thing it will be two plants instead of one, then.

>>64181768 (OP)
cool, now maybe my alliant powders will be back in stock

>>64181768 (OP)
So will 7.62×39 finally be available in bulk again for an affordable price? If that's the case WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK AK BROS.

>>64197118
No. Sorry.

>>64196844
>so a decent chunk of blame should be put on them
absolutely

>>64196854
Don't post if you don't understand the situation at all. The majority of refugees in Europe are from Syria and Ukraine, both in large part being pushed here by Russia.

It's not because a region is unstable that it translates to migration waves, however Russia makes sure it does where they operate, like in Syria.

>>64197118
Bulgaria has never stopped producing it, it's such a major regional exporter that virtually every insurgency movement has a "Made in Bulgaria" somewhere in their stocks. Ammo flows like a river, but I guess it would depend on which side of the pond you are. Especially now, all plants work 24/7 at full capacity.

>>64182352
except it literally was a rational reaction to NATO overreach

>>64197950
>except it literally was a rational reaction to NATO overreach
The Russian invasion? If you think so, you are either retarded, or simply ignorant of Eastern European/Slavic relations among themselves, and the "muh empire" delusions of Russia. Their least defended borders are the NATO ones, as they know NATO is not an aggressive threat. It's just yet another in the light years-long list of excuses of why they invaded.
Pic related, this victory essay was published on the third day of the invasion by the Kremlin press, thinking they'd won.

>>64197950
https://youtu.be/FVmmASrAL-Q?si=XMPef7e_x0np3Lzk

>>64197947
>why are kikes pushing ahead with ww3?
Wrong board, try /pol/ or /r9k/.

>>64197950
>rational reaction
except nato is now closer than ever but somehow putin stopped talking about it completely as if it was a bullshit reason all along
(also thanks to hit rational reaction russia is going to collapse. hooray for rationality)

>>64197964
>>64197966
>>64197977
so explain how making ukraine part of NATO and putting NATO nukes there is any different than the cuban missile crisis and why we chimped out when russia adopted cuba as a proxy for the USSR and put their missiles there

>>64198073
>we
you will never be white

>>64198073
Remind me, when did Ukraine join NATO, and when were nukes put in Ukraine?
Cause what happened was the zigger puppet president decided to move away from the EU, the people weren't having it, he fled, and Russia invaded Crimea with unmarked forces and sponsored separatist forces in the eastern parts. The war has been going since 2014. Not 2022. Or are you about to explain how Crimea and Russia-sponsored separatism was some 16D chess move against NATO and not just irredentist expansion?
If anything, Russia had signed a memorandum to ensure Ukraine's sovereign borders. But its memorandums and treaties are not worth the paper they are written on.

>>64198073
USA bombed havana for years after soviets put nukes there?

>>64198092
>when did Ukraine join NATO, and when were nukes put in Ukraine?
thats literally waht the kike dictator of ukraine is demanding retard

>>64198103
yes it launched a failed special military operation called the bay of pigs try learning some history shitskin NAFOtranny

>>64198111
>kike dictator
He is democratically elected, and before you jump on your multipolar talking points about why there are no elections, cause that's how their constitution works during wartime.
Zelensky is demanding protection and guarantees. After the second invasion, faggot. And, Putin is also jewish, how is that 5D chess going?
You fucking browns, I swear...

Looks like we got a live one, lads.
It must sting to know that your nation went from one considered a genuine threat and one capable of influencing online discourse through the usual predicable puccian book of lies to one that is literally laughed at when it tries to justify it's nigger-tier behavior.
In fact I'd argue that Russians have managed to reach sub-nigger status. What would you call something even more nigger than sub-saharan rapist tribesmen? Niggests? Zigger works for now I suppose, but there really should be a better word to adequately show my disgust at the stinking vermin crawling in the corpse of the USSR.

>>64198130
>What would you call something even more nigger than sub-saharan rapist tribesmen?
A double nigger. Or just a zigger.

>>64182452
Remember that nitocellulose plant Russia had in Tambov?
Course you don't because you're a zigger, but it got blown up in June so now Russia has to import theirs

>>64198121
>He is democratically elected,
yes its very democratic to rule past the constitutional legal term of office and then refuse to have elections. in fact its important that he remains in power forever to save democracy. they have to skip elections to protect democracy. very based and democratic.

>>64198121
before you jump on your kike globalist talking points about why its ok to skip elections because their constitution demands it and zelensky is powerless to step down and hold elections
>cause that's how their constitution works during wartime

oh there you go being a retard. have you read their constitution?

>>64198654
It's almost as if there is a clause in the Ukrainian constitution to not have elections during a war. Or should the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians in occupied areas just not get a vote?
I understand it may be hard to comprehend as a thirdie since your elections are basically just for show, but in actually democratic nations and not "people's republics" that kind of thing is pretty important.

Of course, I guarantee you already knew this since someone always reminds you of it within minutes of you posting your retarded drivel.

>>64198677
>>64198677
>It's almost as if there is a clause in the Ukrainian constitution to not have elections during a war
its almost as if you are repeating a kike talking point and thats not at all what their constitution says and in fact it gives the power of parliament to hold elections if they choose to and zelensky has the power to step down at any moment nothing is FORCING him to stay in power indefinitely you filthy lying faggot jew

>>64198677
of course you can quote me the relevant part of the ukraine constitution that says jewish dictators must remain in tyrannical power indefinitely to embezzle the resources of the nation and send all the white ukranians to die in a pointless war that could be solved in 10 seconds if he just stops trying to genocide western russian provinces in donbass and lugansk right?

>>64198953
>p-please roll over and die
>w-we won’t kill all of you like we tried to do the last few times, please stop enacting total zigger death
No lol
And yeah not having elections during wartime is something many democratic nations have, for good reason.
Maybe instead of shilling for poor russia here you should just go live there instead

No matter how many times you try to use this argument, it will never work
Oh and also screaming about kikes when you’re chugging the cum of one of the most jewed countries on earth by far (russia) and their jewish president, you look like a pathetic used tool.

>>64198677
>It's almost as if there is a clause in the Ukrainian constitution to not have elections during a war.
Dumb argument. They had elections in 2014 and 2019. The war in the Donbass started in 2014.

Additionally, their constitution was written in 1996. Its not the fucking magna carta, you can just change it.

>>64184279

More likely answer is:

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/11/russia-moves-to-rein-in-gas-flaring-mandating-95-gas-capture-by-2012-signals-aboutface-on-climate-ch.html

>>64198986
Honestly the election argument (and why it's on the forefront for some shills) never made sense for me in a different way, since there's a very, very high chance Ukraine would end up with someone even more radical instead of a "peace in our time" leader.
Like sure, zigs can use their disinfo apparatus to try and get their candidate in, but the chances are very slim.

>>64199014
I'm not a zig and I think that they should have elections before making a deal with Russia or deciding to continue to fight. Their leader has to have a mandate and a lot has changed since this war started. Put it to the people - let them choose peace or let them choose war. Idk which way they will go, I'm not Ukrainian.

I'm just saying "muh constitution" is a dumb argument because (1) they have ignored it in the past and (2) you can just do things.

>>64198986
Actually it was an Anti Terrorist Operation.

>>64199018
>Actually it was an Anti Terrorist Operation.
Always has been, its just bigger now.

>>64198974
im american retard. something you will never be

>>64199031
>im american retard.

>>64199017
the reason the little kike isnt having elections is becaus he knows he would lose since the entire country hates him for what hes done. hes killed over 1.5 million ukranian men and his goon squad of mercenaries routinely continues to kidnap whatever white ukranian is left to send as drone bait to a lost war that could have been entirely avoided if he would have just stopped genociding ethnic russians who live in western russian provinces like lugansk and donetsk and didnt amass europes largest most well funded army on russias doorstep then say he wanted to join NATO and get nukes. sorry but russia isnt going to tolerate threats to their national security any more than we are. i would literally demand war with china if they started setting up their little chink shitty nuke missiles in mexico

>>64199041
dont (you) me, you deranged faggot.

>>64199040
you talkin bout yourself there eurofaggot?

Guess we'll know in a couple of hours if this is just a random subhuman sperging or if something went wrong in Russia again.

>muh eighty gorillion lugandan children
>muh NATO expansion
Did I travel back in time to '22? About the only thing missing is seething about Azov.

>>64197950
The Russian cries out as he strikes you

>>64197950
getting into an unwinnable forever war and having your sphere of influence taken from you while you squander your troops achieving nothing is never a rational reaction

>hi, I'm John Burger of Alabama oblast, here's the list of paid shill talking points and buzzwords
It's all so tiresome...

>>64199209
Very concerning. We must appease Russia at all costs. American here. Here in America, no one is celebrating.
John Patriot from Texas Oblast here.

>>64199507
Hello John of Texas, how are the warm water ports?

>>64199622
>Hello John of Texas, how are the warm water ports?
Hopefully better once we take Odessa and the perfidious albions.

>>64199013
>2009 article
>about 2012 plans
>having anything to do with 2020-2024
>when Russia is trying to maintain infrastructure that Ukraine apparently managed to bomb or just make up by building up extraction
>implying Russia cares about ecology
sus

>>64199074
guess ill know right now you are retarded and gay on the level of a literal reditor for thinking everyone that isnt brainwashed by kike propaganda or a paid operative of kike intel agencies is russian

>>64199113
see above. nigger.

>>64199165
except they are literally winning.

>>64199964
Two more weeks (literally).

>>64199209
>hi im kikeshill #2040493 and everyone that sees through my kike lies or retarded opinions is a russian agent.

its all so tiresome

>>64199967
its almost like you dont understand grand strategy of global powers and attrition or something. something something vietnam war afghanistan etc. weird

>he's still going
Whatever happened, its big. I got $10 on him bringing out the gay bbc-folder within the next hour or so

>>64199979
>14:1
yep attrite your whole country into oblivion nice job putnigger

>>64199964
and they'll keep on 'winning' until they lose, just like all the other forever wars

>>64199979
23.8 million russians died in the SMO so far. It has been confirmed by hackers.

>>64197950
Monke's strategic genius extended russia's border with NATO twofold.

>>64199984
youre not an american so shut the fuck up and stop larping as one eurokike

>>64200002
source: your ass.

>>64200009
he also depleted all of NATOs weaponry and germanys economy

>>64199984
I think it's about the multipolar meeting between Ziggeria, Bugland and whatever word can hope to accurately describe India. Dictatorshit meeting, in essence.

>>64200050
>no fuel in russia
>fuel available in germany
cope this

>>64200050
>he also depleted all of NATOs weaponry and germanys economy
>ziggers genuinely believe this

>>64200057
More like the special olympic of superpowers

>>64199979
>its almost like you dont understand grand strategy of global powers and attrition or something
neither does putler it seems

>64200048
Kek, you sure are one salty little piss-ant.

>>64200057
The Cumcistern?

>>64199969
Slit your throat already, zigger subhuman.
Hope you and all your kind dies of cancer.
>mods allowing this shitheel derail a thread with his gay metodichkas
I'm noticing

The news came out that her plane was targeted by Russian EW during her visit to Bulgaria.

>make an innocent comedic shitpost with an anime girl image and the word "nigger"
>get banned for "muh racism"
>literal paid shill doing nothing but screeching about "muh kikes" for hours to deflect from its blatant shilling
>mods nowhere to be seen
Interesting

>>64182452
>not realizing it's reverse provocation to give NATO casus belli against ziggerland

>>64185943
>what do we care about china
Name all non-disposable products you use that China has had no hand in producing.

A couple years from now we’ll be hearing about “an explosion has rocked Bulgaria!”. The deadliest industrial disasters in history are all ammunition/gunpowder depots.

>>64200390
This is a series of several factories and depots, and will not be operated by ziggers or adjacents.

>>64198944
It's almost as keep screaming kike and playing the victim

>>64200147
Well it was wort a shot for a fireball plane crash. I'm soo ashamed that this zigger shenanigans can happen in my little corrupt place...

>>64200821
It's a criticism shield basically.
>look I'm one of you, I hate da joos so listen to my metodichka, do I fit in yet?
Notice how it doesn't address the post about jewish oligarchs in russia at all, lol.

>>64198460
>but it got blown up in June
then why did Euromaiden Press do a news artticle about it few days ago?

>>64199026
Putin is Jewish, by blood. Ranks higher than Zelensky in Jew levels because Zelensky's father was Jewish, not his mother. Also the 2nd most common nationality in Israel (After Israeli) is Russian. Weird that. Weird that Putin's daughter married a Jew. Weird that Putin has awards for Zionism. Weird that Israel told Ukraine to surrender to Russia and has sent no aid. Weird that. Really weird.

Just me noticing things again.

>>64199957
>brainwashed by kike propaganda
putin is jewish
why is ^ this sentence above like literaly kryptonite to you shills, you literally cannot acknowledge it ever lmao, all of your screeching about kikes sounds fake and disingenous when you refuse to acknowledge the biggest kikes in the room lol.

>>64200956
Personally I've come to the conclusion that every single piece of DA JOOS bullshit is just zigger projection of what they WISH they could do to the world.
>THE JEEWWSSS control the banks, the media, the goverments, everything! Just look at all their propaganda!
>Ziggers TRY to control the banks, the media, foreign goverments, everything... they just suck at it lmao

>>64191021
Like playing video games after 10pm?

>>64190902
polymarket is rigged

>>64181768 (OP)
Isn't Bulgaria right after Hungary and Slovakia as far as kissing Russian ass goes?
Doesn't sound like the best option.

>>64202379
There is a hard divide between inbreds and boomers, and the rest of the people. So it's not a unified block. Bulgaria is considered an unfriendly country by Ziggeria.

>>64198944
Here's what actually happened by the way. Also, you know the constitution of Ukraine is freely available to read online right? Literally anyone can read it. Feel free to look it up yourself.

Article 83: If the term of powers of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine expires while martial law or a state of emergency is in effect, its powers shall be extended until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine elected after the cancellation of martial law or of the state of emergency.

Notice that only specifies the Ukrainian Parliament. Of course, realising that holding presidential elections while a quarter of you home soil is being occupied was retarded, Parliament wanted to amend the constitution, but realized they legally couldn't because of Article 157 which states: The Constitution of Ukraine shall not be amended in conditions of martial law or a state of emergency.

So instead the Ukrainian Parliament passed a law called: "On the Legal Regime of Martial Law" which, who would have guessed, prohibits Presidential elections under martial law, and also amended their electoral code to say the same thing.

And you can bet that as soon as the war is over one of the first amendments Parliament will pass will enshrine that law into the constitution as well.

>>64182352
Dilate, NAFOtroon.

>>64202863
What's wrong thirdie? Upset that the only thing MIGHTY PUCCIA accomplished with this war is making the entire EU actually DO something? Because I must admit that it is quite the accomplishment, and all it cost was the entire Russian military, USSR stockpiles, and over a million zigger lives exterminated!

>>64181768 (OP)
Hey Putin
That's a target!

>>64202863
>NAFOtroon
You and your fellow ziggers being completely buckbroken by gay-ass cartoon dog avatars for 3 years straight will never stop being funny

>>64203947
Worst thing is, they congregate at /chug/, which has its own discord, and unironically has several trannies. So they are discord trannies incarnate. I guess they are just projecting yet again.

>>64204687
one chugger less since the minneapolis shooting

>>64204687
It's ridiculous how pretty much 90% of the /pol/tard spam here is just projecting.

>>64198944
>>64198953
>>64198986
You mad, Ivan?

>>64204687
I don't think it's possible for puccians to NOT project. It's literally part of their "culture".

>>64205117
>You mad, Ivan?
How the fuck could this post >>64198986 be interpreted as a vatnik post?

>>64204710
the people on there are at best the very dregs of what the board used to be.
those so pathetic and spineless that they'd rather keep doom pilling online rather than going out and doing their what ever little bit to change the world

>>64205955
same applies to /k/. This place is a shadow of what it once was.

>>64205959
If you feel like you no longer belong here, you're right. Time to close the tab and find somewhere new you don't hate.

>>64205975
Yes.

>>64204687
I dont think ive ever seen people think about tranny penises as much as /pol/tards