Thread 64234352

Russia hits danish demining operation in ukraine.

>Danish demining operation
Gonna need more context, was this frontlines or old stuff?

>>64234352 (OP)
Typical subhuman behavior

>>64234352 (OP)
so this is why the ukropidors were crying
i see

>>64234363
New thing, but it was a fair bit behind the frontlines.

>>64234372
Another refinery was hit last night rajesh

>>64234381
i know kiev parliament was struck sandor
no need to cry all day about it
:^)
also why if you're winning your pig leader is passing laws to punish soldiers?

>>64234352 (OP)
>killing humanitarian workers
Truly subhuman behavior, idk why would you ever waste a ballistic missile on that.

>>64234372
No no, anon, Russkies are the pidorashka, you call the Ukrainians Ukrops.
This is basic stuff, report to your handle for immediate re-education, blyat!

>>64234363
Happened last week, iskander for backlines mine clearance seems pretty retarded

>official mod account posting their war crime
>heh, so this is why the ukropidors were crying))))

>>64234384
>Ukraine knocks out at least one major refinery every week
>Puccia still suffering thousands of casualties every week
>the best Puccia can do is damaging a empty building
Implessive.

Danish as in Danish volunteers or Danish as in the Danish government deployed them?

>>64234385
It's dirty but they are doing combat engineer work making them valid targets.

>>64234389
It will probably work though.
The Euros are already afraid to commit troops drawn from their fragile, hollowed-out societies.
Russia's behavior seeks maximum terror, and to spread Ukie air defense thin.

As for terror, this strike helps establish a guarantee: if you're European and come to "Russia" [aka Ukraine], Russia WILL kill you, whether or not it makes sense to you. Remember, we want to kill you-- remember! We know only a few Euros will come. Those Euros who would come, yes we want you in striking distance. There is enough spare munitions to cull those Euros from their genetics.

Euros will react with rightful indignation, but like thoughts and prayers, it won't euthanize the Russian animal. And the flow of volunteers will shrivel.
Preventing mine clearance in the rear will help slow Ukie logistics and produce more Ukie mutilation / amputation injuries. Gotta get those numbers caught up to Putin's Samovars.

>>64234352 (OP)
Is there a way for determining Humanitarian aid from Ukranian asets? Some Ukie civie cars are often used for transport to and from the frontlines and don't come with a differentiating paint scheme... or am I missing something?

>>64234476

Is that you Bobby?

>>64234482
Gee, if only there was some sort of drone overhead with high powered precision optics that could literally just, you know, observe the target before ordering a fire mission, or something.
But nah, prolly impossible, just shoot anything that moves.

>>64234482
Yes. I have simple way to avoid shooting civilian: Do not invade neighboring country, pyotr.

But these are russians. On day done, they stopped minivans full of families, shot the men, shot the dog, and raped the women. They are actively hunting civilians in kherson for sport. Why would they care?

>>64234476
>Russia WILL kill you
That might be the narrative they are trying to push but anyone that has been paying attention let alone be willing to go knows heaps of western volunteers have been there for years.
Russia can't afford to waste PMGs on random volunteers and everyone knows it.

>>64234460
>Demining is combat engineer work
Oh fuck you're really trying to justify it
Holy fuck, I hate you atheist, Godless bastards
I wish Kant could puke on you
Are the guys of the MAG group suddenly combatants when the next Yugoslav kerfuffle comes just because you want it to be?

Russia can't seriously police or prosecute its own war crimes while a politics and military culture that tolerates organized plunder, terror and impunity is still embedded in its institutions, a condition with roots in steppe-era practices, reinforced through centuries of state behavior, and visible in Soviet and modern Russian operations.

Nomadic conquerors of the Mongol/Golden Horde world treated plunder, tribute and brutal reprisal as part of how war worked. Submission often won clemency, refusal meant slaughter, looting and enslavement. That was not anarchic chaos so much as a codified wartime economy and discipline of terror. That legacy shaped how rulers and armies in the region viewed civilians and spoils.

The Mongol period left durable administrative and political effects on the Russian principalities (taxation methods, military expectations, the use of violence as a tool of control). Over centuries those patterns were hybridized with local elites and later Tsarist and Soviet structures, meaning norms about extraction, domination, and the permissive use of force did not evaporate the day the Horde retreated.

There are well-documented threads in Russian and Soviet military practice where looting, pillage and extreme violence against civilians were tolerated, ignored, or even instrumentalized by commanders and political authorities. Scholarly and investigative reporting argues that looting and a culture of using brutality as a reward or shock tactic became normalized at different points in Russian military history.

>>64234507
Independent monitors and human rights groups have documented widespread looting, seizure of cultural property, sexual violence and other grave abuses by Russian forces in Ukraine. Investigations, satellite imagery and on-the-ground reporting point to patterns rather than isolated crimes. Where institutions in Russia would have to investigate, prosecute and discipline their own, political will, centralized denial, and legal insulation (Russia is not cooperating with many international mechanisms) make domestic accountability unlikely.

Because domestic prosecution is implausible while the state itself protects or denies culpability, accountability has shifted to international mechanisms (ICC, ad-hoc tribunals, international fact-finding missions). Those mechanisms can document, indict, and try to build cases, but they are constrained by enforcement problems (arrest warrants mean little if suspects remain inside uncooperative states) and by politics. Still, they are the only realistic path short of internal regime collapse or major defections.

You cannot meaningfully separate historical habit from modern behavior here. A military culture that sees plunder and terror as acceptable tools, whether born of medieval steppe practice or of later institutional choices, creates the social and command structures that allow war crimes to happen and go unpunished. That is why talking about prosecutions in abstraction misses the real problem. You need institutions that will "want" to prosecute, evidence-preserving systems that are not sabotaged by the perpetrators, and an external enforcement architecture willing and able to act. Until those things exist, talk of neat "prosecutions" inside the same polity that benefits politically or materially from the crimes is wishful thinking.

>>64234503
Anon I'm a moderate and want to see Russia destroyed, quote and link the war crime they commited by hitting a demining team instead of acting like a zigger and calling everything you don't like a war crime.

>>64234476
That is what your ork mind thinks, that terror works. Because that is after all way why your countrymen are being led to the slaughter.
Meanwhile if this attack even killed anyone it will just an argument for Europe to spend some more spare change on weapons to achieve TZD.

>>64234507
>>64234514
tldr: snownigs are allowed to rape, because they won't stay loyal to the regime otherwise

>>64234516

Not him, but here you go

https://kyivindependent.com/russian-strike-on-danish-demining-group-in-chernihiv-oblast-kills-2-injures-8/

lazy fuck

>>64234482
Remember in the first month of the invasion the Russian army was transporting munitions in trucks with red cross markers? Because I remember.

>>64234352 (OP)
>>64234543
Based
Total nordcuck death

>>64234543
That doesn't list a treaty or article.

>>64234557
Remember when Ukrainian whores weren't being gutted by ameriniggers? I remember

>>64234530
Russian society is all about taking advantage of anyone in a lower “caste” than you. Soldiers are often from the lower dregs of society because anyone from the upper class bribes their way out, so they take their rage out on enemy civilians and POWs whenever given the chance

>>64234578
Cute western head canon

>>64234576
Remember that Russian women are partying with and love their imported Africans because the Africans treat them better than Russian men lmao

>>64234352 (OP)
I don't think one should be performing demining operations while the war is still being actively fought. That seems misguided at best.

>be rusnigger
>get slaughtered by the thousands like cattle in Ukraine daily
>XAXAXA we bombed some volunteers who came to remove mines)) puccia STRONK)))
There more I interact with russians and their supporters, the more I realize how evil and repugnant turd worlders are.

>>64234398
>Ukraine knocks out at least one major refinery every week
You'd think Russia would have run out of refineries by now, but I guess the damage isn't critical.

>>64234482
>Is there a way for determining Humanitarian aid from Ukranian asets?
The old pidor rule of "where bomb fell there is ISIS HQ, ukie assets, boris johnson, etc"

>>64234605
Jeets and Russians are basically the same and don't have a place in modern society

>>64234391
Why do they do that
>)))))))
Thing? Is it supposed to be like their version of (((early life section)))?

>another bombing of civilians/warcrime/gutting of pows with boxcutters
>russians and vatniks post it everywhere as if they are proud of this
I am genuinely confused. Even nazi Germany tried to hide what they did during the war, although everyone mostly knew what was happening but not at the sheer extent of it.

>>64234386
Don't teach them. It's funny when biobots use russicisms with no idea of their origin, meaning and context while trying to imitate educated, informed analysis.

>>64234590
Read One Soldier’s War straight from the dregs of Russian society faggot, all they do is drink, grift, rape, and torture

>>64234576
No I don't recall. Please help me remember.

>>64234604
>misguided at best
And what would it be at it's worst then Ranesh? An act of war from Denmark?

>>64234620
I believe it is subhuman niggerspeak for ":^)"

>>64234596
And norks, they prefer norks too

>>64234596
Cute western head canon bro. How about you post interracial marriage rates

>>64234625
>another bombing of civilians/warcrime/gutting of pows with boxcutters
No different than what any other army in history has done. Britain, USA, "the good guys", doesn't matter. Soldiers are psychopaths who are paid to kill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmudiyah_rape_and_killings

>>64234625
Remember at the start of the war they would post a webm of a toddler being raped by a Russian soldier and would gloat about it? They seemed genuinely shocked that people were disgusted.

>>64234638
Uhoh melty

Friendly reminder that soviet Russia when they invaded Afghanistan they killed 1-3 million civilians (1-3 depends on source).
This is not unusual russian behaviour.

>>64234649
>b-but what about anglo-saxons

>>64234649
Whataboutism at its peak. Well done and enjoy your 1 ruble.

>>64234653
>this is what American men look like
No wonder you guys lost against malnourished Vietnamese farmers

>>64234657
The bulk of the soviet army in Afghanistan and leadership was made up of Jews, ukrainains and central Asians. Cool revisionism though

>>64234632
Did they run out of replacement keys for colon and carets? Lack of funding?

Very peculiar that these types of ziglets came back when shitdia's internet was fixed

>>64234638
I suppose it does count as interracial if I go fuck some Russian sluts since you dogs are certainly not white.
Did you know that there is a significant population of Russians in Spokane, Washington? Did you know they are almost all young women who will suck your cock for a line of coke? I guess some things don't change even if they move halfway across the world lmao
Maybe next time I'll take some photos to share with you shills. I think one of them is the daughter of some oil executive, I wonder how much he'd pay me to not post a video of her choking on dick here?
Well not here, I'm not some seething puccian so I'd have the decency to post over on /gif/.

>>64234516
>quote and link the war crime they commited by hitting a demining team instead of acting like a zigger and calling everything you don't like a war crime

Holy shit Anon you might actually be retarded.
Unless the demining teams are uniformed combatants of the Ukrainian armed forces, they can not be legally targeted.
You might as well claim that the civilian construction workers repairing a damaged bridge or the civilian ambulance providing first aid to victims of a cruise missile strike are valid targets because just like the demining teams, they are also undoing the actions of the Russian military.

>>64234684
Jeets are seething mega hard that they are forced to play nice with bugpeople. Modi tried to accomodate himself with Donnie, but Donnie dislikes poor browns, and particularly dislikes poor browns with delusions of grandeur.

>>64234631
>And what would it be at it's worst then Ranesh? An act of war from Denmark?
Blind stupidity, you retarded NAFO tranny. The game of war is still being played there. Trying to be humanitarian in such times is just asking to be identified as a target and killed. This has happened all the time in every war since liberals gained control of governments after WWII. You don't go to an active killing field and try to do good, you wait it out until the peace agreement is signed, THEN you can start bringing peace back. It's a fatalistic liberal fantasy.

I, John Smith of Alablyatma oblast, am demoralized. Now all good Americanskis must call on czar Trump to cease arming the Nazi Jewish Banderite regime and aid mighty Puccian bear in 2 week, 1,292 day special needs operation in tiny neighbor with 1/7 of the population and no nukes or navy.

Lot's of 'baity-slide' threads about today.
Roll for why:
0. Another airframe or ship gone
1. Another cross-border raid by Russian separatists
2. Fresh /k/ubed mobik-meat pile
3. MTLB or BMP mine field massacre
4. Saboteurs destroy another SIGINT plane
5. FPV drone multikill
6. Cardboard drones destroy another refinery
7. StormShadow strikes promote another admiral
8. High ranking government official goes urban base jumping without a parachute
9. Mobik grenade suicide
Dubs: Putin falls down the stairs and breaks a hip
Trips: All of the above.
Quads: Russia accidentally nukes itself

>>64234691
Still looks more masculine than the American man "man" in my picture
>>64234697
TL;DR
keep Seething

>>64234716
>nafo
Sorry a bunch of twatter troons postively btfo a paid network of shills lmao

>>64234710
>You might as well claim that the civilian construction workers repairing a damaged bridge or the civilian ambulance providing first aid to victims of a cruise missile strike are valid targets because just like the demining teams, they are also undoing the actions of the Russian military.
That's exactly how the vatnigs see it. Everybody who counters the actions of their military is a valid target. The firefighters dousing an apartment building after a 'sneed strike, the doctors treating the injured, the roadworks people repairing craters, they're all valid targets.

>>64234716
>Trying to be humanitarian in such times is just asking to be identified as a target and killed
You really are subhuman

test

Yesterday the pajeet internet cables got cut, and they had an internet outage.
at that same time posts quality on /pol/, /fit/, /adv/, /his/ and /int/ got better.
The scat fetish posting stopped, same for bbc threads on /pol/.
Id have to guess yesterday board quality also improved here.
Just looked at it.

>Deleted post yesterday
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/deleted/deleted/type/op/start/2025-9-6/end/2025-9-7/
Yesterday lacks the pro russians posts, so i guess it checks out, OP is a jeet
>Deleted posts today
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/deleted/deleted/type/op/start/2025-9-7/end/2025-9-8/
>Delete day before yesterday
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/deleted/deleted/type/op/start/2025-9-5/end/2025-9-6/

He also always posts around l:
6:00pm greenwhich,
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/filename/double%20mind%20bind%20/
Im guessing all the other propaganda at that same hour is also by him,
Combined with his bad english, getting uppity about Being called a jeet, and the rest of being pro russia id have to guess after he finishes working in the slums he goes back to post on here to get more rupes

>>64234620
>)))))))))
is basically russian for 'i am not mad in fact i am the troll and you are mad and i win and you are bitch who suck my cock'. comes from when they'd basically put that whole phrase in brackets after posting while absolutely assmad. it's basically a magic spell of 'you can't know if i'm being ironic or not so if you reply you'll look stupid either way'

>>64234503
Are you fucking retarded or what?

>>64234779
Also he posted this
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/64199277/#64199277
The spammers is a confirmed pajeet

>>64234716
Please keep going, I'm gonna' have bingo soon

>>64234797
Not big soup rice

>>64234749
>zubhuman
fixed

>>64234618
As a moderate, I have to disagree. They would make an excellent ethical alternative to medical animal testing.

>>64234620
It's literally just the rusnig version of a smiley face.
It doesn't have eyes because Russians don't really use eyes to express emotions, as they lack a soul.

>>64234710
To me the issue is how would a law define the difference between demining at the front for and advance vs demining in the rear.
Ziggers are war criminals, they used red cross marked trucks to transport arms, they deliberatly targeted civilians, the Izium mass graves ect.
I'm not saying they aren't war criminals I'm saying I doubt killing a demining team is a war crime and everyone wants to call me a zigger or retarded but no one has posted the treaty and artical making it a war crime.

>>64234800
>kursk re capture attempt
BWAHAHAHAHA
You need to update your pic bro

>>64234625
>as if they are proud of this
They ARE proud of it.
They're called orcs for a reason. Muscovites are the bastard rapebabies of the mongol horde, and they inherited from their rule only their Russian servility, but also their bestial behavior.

Never make the mistake of assuming they're European.

>>64234779
>The scat fetish posting stopped,

>>64234384
You are brown

>>64234571
purposely targeting civilians like that is a war crime

>>64234843
Warcrime denial could do as a replacement

>>64234860
Bombing an ammo factory full of civilians isn't a war crime, link the article.

>>64234866
>Muh war grimes
Cry harder lmao. Ukrainian mercs committed countless warcrimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, what goes around comes around.

I can smell the curry ITT

>>64234500
It's working if you looked at the "security guarantees" that were talked about recently
>European countries: yes we will give security guarantees to Ukraine
>Russia: we will bomb you if you send troops
>Europe: we won't send troops! We promise not to send troops!
The only reason we avoided looking like total idiots was that Russia wasn't negotiating in earnest, so we can say none of that ever happened and we would totally send troops
My fellow Europeans are reliving 1938-39 and refusing to believe it

>>64234880
>link the article.
I don't know how you missed it the first time it was posted, but then again I'm not a subhuman cumchugger.
here you go
https://kyivindependent.com/russian-strike-on-danish-demining-group-in-chernihiv-oblast-kills-2-injures-8/

>>64234844
"For fear of his yasa and punishment his followers were so well disciplined that during his reign no traveller, so long as he was near his army, had need of guard or patrol on any stretch of road ; and, as is said by way of hyperbole, a virgin with a golden vessel on her head might walk alone without fear or dread."
~ The History of The World Conqueror by Ata-Malik Juvayni, circa 1256

The Mongols actually enforced laws and decency. Muscovites don't even have that.

>>64234830
>To me the issue is how would a law define the difference between demining at the front for and advance vs demining in the rear
They didn't care about nuance of demining work, they "identified" that group as "strike UAV operators".
Thankfully that iskander strike wasn't too precise(there are "on the ground" photos of immediate aftermath, surprised they weren't posted here).

>>64234880
>civilians manufacturing war materiel are the same as civilians conducting humanitarian aid
this is why everybody hates you orcs

>>64234605
Our president is basically a Rusnigger between his pimp mansion tastes and his inability to punch up.

>>64234888
Exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. Please provide evidence to back up your claims.

>>64234907
>The Mongols actually enforced laws and decency.
By brutalizing, torturing and oppressing people. Half the related terminology in the Russian language concerning the aforementioned stuff is derived from the Mongolians.

>>64234830
>the treaty and artical making it a war crime

1) warcrimes 101 is basically "you cannot deliberately target non-combatants"
2) there is no definition by which foreign demining teams who are not taking part in the hostilities could be ever considered combatants
Ipso facto, you may be stupid.
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule3

>>64234364
>>64234385
Enemy _sappers_ are valid target. Even if they disguised as "humanitarian mision".

>>64234364
It could be targeted as retaliation for the Danish government allowing Ukranian weapons production in Denmark. And for being pretty hawkish in genneral.

>>64234918
Playing devil's advocate here, that 'humanitarian aid' will be aiding ukranian logistical efforts
Do you know what total war is?

>>64234944
>shortly after "xaxaxa we did a warcrime"
Little late saaaar

>>64234926
>Approximately 5000 Ukrainian soldiers, in total, served in Iraq in the wake of the 2003 invasion of Iraq and subsequent Occupation of Iraq
Imagine illegally invading a country than crying about having the Russians liberate their own people LMAO

>>64234928
Engineers performing work directly related to hostilities != protected non-combatants. Sorry bud.
If you can kill an Afghani planting 152mm shells in the ground, you can kill demining teams too.

>>64234625
Make no mistake, they are in fact proud of it. Their culture is deeply fucked to such a degree that you, sheltered from it by thousands of miles of geography and a language barrier, won't be able to fathom the sheer amount of inhumane shit and degeneracy it consists of.

>>64234928
How come nobody was put on trial for the strategic bombing campaigns of WW2?

>>64234950
by your retarded logic bombing the red cross or some humanitarian group is okay because it aids ukrainian logistical efforts. unfortunately for you nobody agrees with that retardation

>>64234898
Treaty article you fucking retard.
If we are taking the statments of politicians as fact then half of Ukraine is Russia, Taiwan is China and Trump is the most humble.

>>64234952
>their own people
>whatabout

The Russian position, as hinted by the ogre Lavrov, whenever he bangs on the "Europe is sinking into irreversible irrelevance" talking point, is that bravery was only half-removed from European bloody by 1945, and now Russia sees the time has come to excise whatever remains, "complete the task" (as Russian military commentary arrogantly reduces every undertaking to a mere "task").

>>64234496
Curious who Bobby is.
But it's funny to imagine Bobby Hill suddenly becoming a cynical heretic like myself.

>>64234498
>>64234482
They don't care. It should be obvious by now

>>64234499
>>64234500
Finally, people with eyes. That's true, Russia materially lacks the stockpile to literally exterminate foreign help. But for deterrence?

>>64234507
You remind me of this great article from some SecDef in the 50's or early 60's, saying basically the same thing. I spent 20 minutes trying to rediscover it... Thought I'd saved it. Something like "Russia's Ambitions" was the title.
It came with a picture of him exiting a plane looking a bit smug & knowing, flanked by US soldiers, seemingly white-gloved / polished helmet MP troops. Maybe arriving in West Germany? I don't know if it was George Marshall or a later SecDef, or who.
The diplomat I'm trying to remember brought up an excellent Kafka-esque point:
The State monstrosity that typically develops in Russia sometimes can't even be communicated with by the outside world, can't even know what is happening in its own surroundings.
You may not even want to prod Russia, but it can't even hear you from the noise of its own turbulence.

>>64234961
disarming mines away from the front lines to protect civilians is not the same as planting ieds. once again, this is why nobody like you.

>>64234961
>If you can kill an Afghani planting 152mm shells in the ground
Laying IEDs is a direct hostile action and therefore taking part in hostilities.
Defusing explosives so that civilians don't get randomly blown up walking through the woods hundreds of km from an active frontline is not.

>>64234967
Could have something to do with LOAC as we currently understand it not actually existing before 1949, I dunno.

>>64234971
They are not equivalent? Allowing easier mobility and deployment of troops and equipment is undeniably an assistance to the war effort
Explain this? >>64234967
It's horrible, but that is the nature of war, these people were not detached from that

>>64234590
https://desuarchive.org/k/search/image/uJ2oTf9dqMKJixwBh6bQYA/
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/uJ2oTf9dqMKJixwBh6bQYA/
Kek it's an actual vatnik
>>64234779
>>64234797
Internet access for thirdies has to be one of most disastrous mistakes of the 21st century.

>>64234988
>Internet access for thirdies has to be one of most disastrous mistakes of the 21st century.
Based

>>64234987
>They are not equivalent?
correct. and no international criminal court is going to agree with your retarded turdie logic

>>64234980
> disarming mines away from the front lines to protect civilians
What civilians in a front line?

Mines are defencive barier, protecting us from hohols locally. Ofcourse removing them is hostile to us.

>>64234928
>https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule3
>As is the case for civilians (see Rule 6), respect for non-combatants is contingent on their abstaining from taking a direct part in hostilities.
Is demining "part of hostilities"? Is building missiles?

>>64234988
I blame the bongs, if they hadn't of taught the Indians english the world would be a better place.

>>64234980
>>64234986
Defusing one side's explosives to enable the other side's logistics is an active hostile action; is neither impartial or neutral, and removes protections from the people involved.
If you want to demine, come back when the war has ended.

>relaxing around ziggers
should have dispersion at least

>>64234503
Idiot

>>64234507
>Nomadic conquerors of the Mongol/Golden Horde world treated plunder, tribute and brutal reprisal as part of how war worked
Every single culture across the world did that; Maoris, Chinese, Persians, Babylonians, Jews, Africans, Romans, Aztecs. Not sure about First nations or whatever the fuck the P.C. name du jour is
Not saying this exonerates Russians today, but you need to get your historical context right.

>>64234710
Demining enables strategic transport and the explosives conceivably might be reused

Flip the question on its head: if a Russian was removing UXB near, say, a key transport highway, even if it's not *hurr durr on the front line*, that's fair fuckin game

>>64235007
Hey man we just wanted their spices.

>>64235001
Nigger I was saying your retarded strawman about murdering red Cross doctors is not equivalent to demining operations that facilitate the transit of arms and men easier
Why don't you kvetch over bomber Harris? How about the gopnik workers who die in these refinery bombings? Is that a war crime in your spastic brain?

>>64234971
> red cross
Under special international protection. They are not allowed to help asy side in war.

> or some humanitarian group
They're called _merck_.

>>64234620
Ziggerstan's variation of ":)"
A common rule of thumb is the more of these are spammed in a single message, the angrier is the one spamming them is

>>64235008
>>64235011
the military clears their own corridors for logistics purposes. these were civilians thuroughly clearing the area so other civilians can go back to their lives without having to worry about getting fragged while plowing their fields. targeting them was a war crime, and noboy is going to agree with you.

>>64234352 (OP)
those were ukranian PoWs btw

>killing deminers faraway from the frontlines
Sponsored by Trump himself.

>>64235008
My retard in Christ, people working for a civilian humanitarian demining mission in the rear are not combatants under international humanitarian law. Why they are not combatants?

Because under the Geneva Conventions and Additional Protocol I (1977), combatants are members of the armed forces of a party to a conflict (except medical and religious personnel). Combatant status carries both the right to participate directly in hostilities and the liability of being a lawful military target. Civilians, by contrast, are protected from attack unless and for such time as they directly participate in hostilities.

Humanitarian demining in the rear (post-conflict or in non-contested areas) is a humanitarian activity, not participation in combat operations. These workers are usually employed by NGOs, international organizations (like UNMAS, HALO Trust, MAG), or civilian state agencies. Their role is to remove explosive remnants of war for the safety of the civilian population, not to gain a military advantage in ongoing hostilities.

As civilians, humanitarian deminers retain protection from attack under international humanitarian law. They must not be targeted, provided they are not taking a direct part in hostilities. Attacking them would be unlawful.

Military units also perform mine clearance, but in forward areas or during combat operations. Those soldiers are combatants because they are members of armed forces, even if their task is technical support rather than firing weapons.

The key distinction, you cocksucking degenerate, is membership in the armed forces, not a specific technical activity.

Russian demining operations for comparison

>>64235011
>if a Russian was removing UXB near, say, a key transport highway, even if it's not *hurr durr on the front line*, that's fair fuckin game

Unless he's an uniformed member of the RUAF, no he's not fair game, just like visibly marked and unarmed medics treating a wounded but combat capable zigger are not fair game even though they are technically helping the enemy war effort. This is basic fucking law of war.

>>64235025
Shut the fuck up you stupid faggot loving retard, shill your AIDs monkeys somewhere else shitskin ape

>>64235029
You're clearly ESL, and you're clearly unable to detach your emotional bias
I agree with him, so don't lie and bullshit, and explain to me if you think the zigger civilians who die in refinery bombers are having a warcrime commited against them?

>>64235040
So every factory and power plant that has ever been bombed was a war crime?

>>64235044
> t. resorts to his gay pack to soothe butthurt

>>64235040
Does your AI shit think the ziggers dying in refinery bombings are being warcrimed anon?

>>64235053
Butthurt you say?
Less than when his faggot comrades were raping him I expect

>>64234352 (OP)
What a multipolar thing to do.

>>64235054
>ziggers dying in refinery bombings
Not a single one died btw, because ukies use anemic drones with ~25-50 kg warheads. Even the ~200 kg Cesna-like drones didn't kill anyone LMAO.

>>64235044
refineries are strategic infrastructure, whether there are people present does not change their value as a target. purposely targeting a group of civies doing humanitarian work is a war crime. targeting strategic infrastructure that happens to contain civies isn't because those civies arent being directly targeted

>>64235029
Nobody has to agree with me. I'm not a woman and it's not a war crime.
> these were civilians thuroughly clearing the area so other civilians can go back to their lives without having to worry about getting fragged while plowing their fields
Thus they were enabling Ukraine's logistics by defusing Russian explosives, furthering Ukraine's defence in a way that was de facto not neutral or impartial. These civilians and their farming operations play a significant part in Ukraine's economy and logistics.

>>64235040
Why the fuck are you posting some retarded chatGPT trash? Fuck off, nigger.
>The key distinction, you cocksucking degenerate, is membership in the armed forces
No, it's not, you mouthbreathing subhuman.

>>64235044
>zigger civilians who die in refinery bombers are having a warcrime commited against them
Hitting some noncombatants when striking valid targets is generally acceptable. It's not a war crime to blow up a farmer if he's plowing a field next to an ammo dump.
Deliberately targeting noncombatants isn't. Sending a ballistic missile to blow up civilian volunteers clearing UXO far from the line of contact and not in clear preparation for an enemy attack is a war crime.

>>64235053
>butthurt

>64235035
>Poo immediately proves my point
Do they even pay you rupees for this sloppy job or is it just cow dung nowdays, Sanjay?

>>64235079
>Sending a ballistic missile to blow up civilian volunteers clearing UXO far from the line of contact and not in clear preparation for an enemy attack is a war crime.
proof?

>>64235068
That's so blatantly false, why would you even attempt that argument?
Do you think the russians who have indeed died in bombings of refineries were warcrime victims? Answer the question plainly.

>>64235071
Minefields are strategic obstacles that hinder the enemies military, removing them facilitates the easier movement of troops and equipment.

>>64235079
> civilian volunteers
Mercs. There's no "civilian volunters" that can deffuise a real primed mine. It's NATO specialists to help hohols, and 2x legal target.

>>64235079
>noncombatants
Such as refinery workers
What makes civilian infrastructure valid? It is relevant to the war effort obviously
Do you disagree that Minefields causing logistical strain on ukranian logistics is relevant to the war effort?

>>64235042

omg are they alright

>>64235101
>unarmed
>not uniformed
>not taking part in the hostilities

They could be 4 star HATO generals at home and killing them would still be a war crime.

>>64235079
>Deliberately targeting noncombatants isn't. Sending a ballistic missile to blow up civilian volunteers clearing UXO far from the line of contact and not in clear preparation for an enemy attack is a war crime.
It's only prohibited if they are impartial.
Going into an active war zone, near the frontlines and defusing the active munitions of one side is not impartial behavior. These munitions are still militarily relevant and they serve as obstacles and logistical challenges to the Ukrainian defenders. Defusing them is blatantly beneficial to one party taking part in the conflict and blatantly deleterious against the other.

>>64235119
No.

>>64235101
>>64235119
Stop talking to the partisans, talk to me
You seem to have forgotten about our conversation about butthurt? Indeed this faggots butt hurt so much he decided to hang himself, topkek

SAAAAAAAAAAR
ARE YOU AFRAID OF STRONG RUSSIA YET SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>64235122
>active war zone, near the frontlines

The active war zone near the frontlines in question:

>>64235131
> look, how edgy we are! fear us!
That's why you will get no mercy, Taras. Prepare wood wor a winter.

>>64235142
Denmark will now give even more money to Ukraine to kill russians with.

>>64235142
>winter cope again
can't you write new sutuff, 3 fucking years of this shit already, get new material!

>>64235142
>Prepare wood wor a winter.
Oh they're all gonna freeze to death like in 2022, 2023 and 2024?

>>64235142
I'm not a slav you stupid snownigger
This faggots whore must have been most upset, ya think? Do you think she'd be more disappointed he got raped in his ass or that he died like a faggot?

>>64234563
First time I have seen a fellow countryman get droned.

>>64235142
>Prepare wood wor a winter.
You should probably take your own advice, retard.

>>64235142
>winter wll save russia xaxaxaxa

>>64234783
Nah it's just a smiley. They don't have colons : in their alphabetz so it's just the mouth.

>>64235142

Post frozen central heating

>>64235139
In case you didn't notice, Zapad 2025 has moved a significant amount of Russian troops into Belarus, up to 150k of them, which are poised to attack Ukraine right where this incident occurred. The MSR for this potential operation, the E95 highway, runs straight through Chernihiv.
Demining in areas that are at active risk of hostilities is not impartial.

>>64235142
>Prepare wood wor a winter.
and hamsters)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>64235168
>which are poised to attack Ukraine

>>64235168
Good bait, I almost responded.

>>64235168
>Zapad 2025
Way to say that russian military exercises should be treated as hostile intent, retard.

>>64235151
Hohols officials warn that winter will be harsh. Also, they foung just a perfect time to mess with Hungary (who has gas pipes).

>>64235154
Everything becomes first time.

>>64235155
> I'm not a slav you stupid snownigger
Then you should mind business around you instead of spamming gore, gay porn amd spoiling your carma.

>>64235158
Shit happens man, i am truley sorry for your lots swedebro

>>64235142
Don't mind the others, we've got a fun back and forth here, so which one of these fine defenders of russia is you? I'm pretty sure they both have AIDs so it's an open race right?

>>64235151
Actually it was three years of
>Europe will freeze!
>The European eggs will be in the ass!
>All of NATO will fall!
Russia running out of oil is, in fact, a completely new development.

>>64235029
>. these were civilians thuroughly clearing the area so other civilians can go back to their lives without having to worry about getting fragged while plowing their fields
EOD is still a military capability. if the military takes time off to clear out civilian bomb sites they're still targetable. you can argue that this is civilian EOD; I'd say that depends on what they were visibly equipped with.

>>64235043
>Unless he's an uniformed member of the RUAF, no he's not
last I checked the Taliban didn't wear uniforms and weren't officially enlisted; still wasn't a warcrime to slot them

>>64235052
I mean, more or less, yeah. We've been trying to tell that to you for years now. Thank you for finally catching up to speed. Now go bomb childrens' hospitals elsewhere, you dumb fucking zigger.

>>64235183
...duh?
if Ukraine himarsed a bunch of generals at Zapad 25 we'd all be cheering

>>64235190
Kek this ugly cunts son died and they gave her a meat grinder
A fucking meat grinder, it'll be oleg sausages for her tonight!
Jokes she'll never see his body, he will have no funeral, and she will die alone like most whore russian mothers
>should mind business
Get the fuck off my board zigger

>>64234722
>dubs
Nice roll! I'm going for 8. Feels like it is one of those days to me.

>>64235142
OH NO NO NOOO AVATARTRANNY ZISTER
ABOUT THAT

>>64235168
>Zapad 2025 has moved a significant amount of Russian troops into Belarus
and at least one of them got fucked a Belarusian colonel unc

>>64235194
>last I checked the Taliban didn't wear uniforms and weren't officially enlisted; still wasn't a warcrime to slot them

They were armed unlawful combatants, unarmed and un-uniformed foreigners performing EOD are not. This should not be very hard to wrap your mind around if your IQ is above like 90.

>>64235198
I would, but not because they were readying an offensive, but rather because I think every asian should die.

>>64235203
>>64235191
> shallow and dull NAFO shill pack
According to hohols they are killing 1k russians / day. Why would you need to use 2 years old "cases"?

>>64235142
Which refinery blew up this time?
>U WILL FREEZE! RUSSIA IS NEEDED!
It keeps not happening

It turns out russia was never relevant, just cheap. Like a $5 whore. Yes people will patronize a $5 whore, but only because the whore is $5, not because they are good.

Russia's army was never strong, just cool looking.

Russia was never great. This decade has seen the complete and utter collapse of the fearsome reputation the united states has been trying to assign to russia. And the sad part is, we're learning russians believed it more than the americans did.

>>64235211
>unarmed
like I said: depends what the EOD equipment is
explosives and anti-materiel rifles are part of the EOD kit, did you know?

>>64235190
>spoiling your carma.
supporting Russia is even worse, you are supporting pure evil and you know it

>>64235218
Would you prefer newer?

>>64235194
They were, visibly, in unmarked civilian vehicles in an obviously non-military style formation.
Parking fifteen white vans in the middle of an open field is not something the Ukrainian or Russian militaries do at this stage of the war.
Now if the Russians were willing to share more of the footage they used to identify them, we would be able to see they very obviously have no weapons, they are not in uniform, they are not in a combat position and they are not engaging in hostilities.

PS; every job is a job in the military, from office clerks to cooks to signals intelligence. That does not mean your Burger King cashier is a valid war target because he happens to be in Ukraine, zigger scumbag.

Amazing. Comrade /chug/'s English is getting progressively worse with each post.

>>64235211
Are unarmed and uniformed refinery workers lawful combatants
You can think the russians are subhuman niggers without crying warcrimes you know?

>>64235218
Tell you what those Russian whores sure are thrifty, good thing russia is importing niggers and shitskins like no tomorrow to replace all their dead young ''"""europeans"'"""" lmao

>>64235228
> (i can't screenshot)
And what's there?

>>64235220
>Which refinery blew up this time?
Mosqueow about to face a bit of fuel shortage:
> Magyar: NPS "Vtorovo", Transneft (Penkino, Vladimir region, Russia) has broken down a little.

>Attack on oil pumping station that pumped diesel fuel to Moscow Ring Oil Product Pipeline.

>Oil pump was damaged at night on 07.09.25 by 14th Regiment of the Unmanned Systems Forces.

>>64235238
>Are unarmed and uniformed refinery workers lawful combatants
Are they being deliberately targeted or are they collateral damage

>>64235238
> Tell you what those Russian whores sure are thrifty, good thing russia is importing niggers and shitskins like no tomorrow to replace all their dead young ''"""europeans"'"""" lmao
Why would it make _YOU_ seethe?

>>64235243
Judging by the dozens of Russians casually filming the drones flying over head with no fear of their own safety, I would say not lmao

>>64235243
I'd say the Ukranians are quite aware they are working at the stations that are hit, so could you explain what is not deliberate about their deaths?
Why does it matter? If the ziggers ever do legitimately accidentally hit civilians it doesn't make it better does it?

havent seen a meltdown of this size in a while

>>64234476
>It will probably work though.
Yes it will absolutely work and piss off the Danes to so they harden support for Ukraine and commit more resources. You dumb fuck. You stupid motherfucker.
And you did it to the fucking Danes, who are like the crazies of Scandinavia. I watched them in Afghanistan, those cunts don't play around. They were one of the few ISAF contingents to aggressively go after the Taliban and they pushed hard in firefights.

>>64235203
kek, bodied that freak

>>64235238
>A large country attacks a small country unprovoked
>By the laws of "gentlemanly warfare", the small country MUST lose, it is unable to muster a proportionate response
>Attacks infrastructure instead to cripple the large country's war efforts
>U BASTERD! U DESERVE TO LOSE IM BIG SO I DESERVE TO WIN! -The large country that illegally staged an unprovoked invasion
Lmao

>>64235261
>If the ziggers evero do legitimately accidently hit civilians
>Ziggers cruise missile'd a hospital
>Ziggers actively target civilians in Kherson in a human safari
>Ziggers launch drone strikes on cafes and parks in Kyiv on the daily
>Ziggers filmed themselves raping a fucking baby to death
Yeah, gee, if only

>>64234611
Hasnt Gazprom recorded record losses and average Russians are unable to even purchase hi octane gas currently?
By all accounts it seems the damage IS quite critical

>>64235168
isn't Zapad supposed to be about fighting NATO? why would they attack ukraine? or are they going to stumble into lithuania thinking they're still in belarus?

you guys don't like it but >>64235238 is right

>>64235280
that's not at all what he said

>>64235247
It doesn't? It's hilarious seeing russian cocksuckers die like the faggots they are after shitting up this board for well over a decade
Anyway how badly do you think these faggots screamed while they died?

>>64235261
Refinery workers can simply acknowledge that refineries are strategic targets and stop going to work.

Ukraine is doing their best to strike parts of the refinery that result in a slow burn so people can get out

It's not like they're hunting civilians, like russians are doing in kherson. Recently a zig dropped a grenade on an old man walking his dog.

>>64235283
> dutch will give more moneys now!
> peremoga is near!
Hohols are so optimistic, because they have a fish memory capacity.

>>64234625
Oh and the kicker is they'll turn around and point at a vid of a russian soldier getting drone'd and shout "WAR CRIME"
Like for all the talk of Russians not valuing Russian lives they sure to love to bitch and moan and clutch at their pearls whilst demnding help from the international rules based order they condemn in their next breath. Extremely faggy behavior if you ask me.

>>64235203
>a fucking meat grinder
nevermind i'll take the cheetos

>>64235283
Gazprom posted lossed for 2023, but for 2024 it recorded a profit because of massive state support (new taxes and rates just to bail them out - not because it sold more oil).

>>64235289
>isn't Zapad supposed to be about fighting NATO?
Well, fucking men also isn't supposed to be based & trad, and yet here we are.

>>64235293
> gloating about agony death
You are not white, no matter how your skin is.

>>64235304
>Hohols are so optimistic, because they have a fish memory capacity.
>he says replying to a different post
Are zigzogs actually retarded?

>>64235280
What the fuck are you talking about? Like who are quoting? Ziggers I presume but why are you replying to me?

>>64235281
The if was quite important, I could believe they do it purely be coincidence of fucking up though
My point was do intentions really matter when a civilians visceral fat is painting asphalt?
Did soviet starvation of millions become more justifiable because if they did it through ineptness rather than malice?

>>64235293
>only one out of the whole bunch knew about "stop, drop and roll"
They really are retarded

>>64235323
Camon, it's the same hohol mindset. Describe by a Gogol, in scene, where hohol-magican opens mouth, and galushki (meat-dough) jump into it themselves.

>>64235325
What the fuck are YOU talking about?
The cruise missiles did not miss; they were deliberately aimed at a hospital
The human safari in Kherson was ordered; they are not accidentally targetting civilians
The strikes on Kyiv are not happen-stance; they are launching hundreds of drones and missiles every day
The rape of the baby was not a lone actor; he was sent into Ukraine to rape and kill, he was following orders

>>64235319
ironic

>>64235335
> t. thinks that "stop, drop and roll" are simply performable when you are on fire

>>64235345
You don't even speak english lmao

>>64234649
>are your monochrome glasses prescription or store bought?

>Russian chimpout hit danish demining operation
>Something must've happened in Ukraine

>>64235354
> learn english when human civilization peak moves to east

>>64235319
Watching Russians burn is the whitest thing I can enjoy on the regular, because they have demonstrated, proven and claim that they have no want nor desire to be better people.

I hope to one day watch every single Russian man, woman and child burn, and I'd only feel sad because then it'd be over.

>>64235371
> a week ago peremoga
> no changes there
> still no info on cut red part

>>64235142
>look, how edgy we are! fear us!
>That's why you will get no mercy
...he says, while posting shit worthy of edgelord championship.
Curious.

>>64235345
I can't even tell what you're trying to say.

>>64235372
you need to lay off the krokodil for a while

>>64234476
>It will probably work though.
>against nordics
Lmao. Prepare for danes to send assassin squads

>>64235372
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ya gotta go back turdie

>>64235299
Right, sure
Guys doing demining are in the same boat then no? Thats my whole point
I think it's shit, but it's undeniably a war asset, I'm not gonna say the ukies are wrong for bombing refineries
Fuck I wouldn't say they're wrong if they killed every single russian alive, but that's harder to swing I suspect.

>>64235311
That's worth a lot more than their dead ziglet son at least, lmao. Maybe they can team up and make ground cheetos before their oilnigger state collapses and they die in poverty.

>>64235319
Do you think their mothers would have liked to have seen them again before they died, squealing and shrieking like vermin? Do you think this faggot was thinking of his mother?

>>64235350
Well for one
>>The if was quite important
And two that I could believe russia does bad things out of ineptness, not always just malice (COULD)
You do speak English yes?
Anyway, that motive doesn't matter in the end to the people who die
The workers in dresden, the starved victims of thr holodomr, the poos who starved due to bong policies in ww2, and yes, our refinery ziglets
I don't claim it's the same in every case, but in every case civilians died

>>64235405
Cruise missiles don't miss, anon. You don't "incompetently" rape a child to death. Tens of thousands of drones aren't "accidental".
TL;DR shut the fuck up lmao

>>64235388
I respect military might. Demonstrative violence, ignoring humanity rules and war traditions, like other scalps and skulls on fenence have nothing with it. Barbarians are weak in a long run.

>>64235372
have you purified your holy rivers from shit yet, pajeet?

>>64235412
CEP is real you know? But anyway I didn't claim russia did any of those things accidentally, just that I believe they could take actions that would kill civilians accidentally. I'm not sure why you think that means I'm defending the child rapist?
Try making a better argument you emotional retard

>>64235372
will thirdies move east too?

>>64235042
Holy shit there's the motherfucking Ghost Rider right there

>>64234384
>i know kiev parliament was struck sandor
a) Sandor is a Hungarian name (~Alexander) and they're an odd choice to identify as a pro-ukrainian
b) the missile that hit the government building is not the win you think it is

It hit a cabinet office, not the parliament and the MISSILE DID NOT EXPLODE.
If it had exploded, there'd barely be a building left, it would at least have a gaping hole in it and have collapsed an entire column of the building.
The fire in the building wasn't caused by the warhead, it was caused by unburnt rocket propellent.

>>64234967
Because the winners would not persecute their own

Captcha: JDAWG

>>64235431
When they drain west to bones, they will return back.

>>64235416
How about this dead faggot, do you respect him?
Nobody else does, that's why he got left to die and killed himself

>>64234384
>i know kiev parliament was struck
It literally wasn't though?

>>64235416
>ruslime talking about "long run" strength
your empire collapses every 70 years on schedule, sit down clown lol

>>64235430
You are defending a child rapist.
I don't know why you are, it's kind of a bad look.

>>64235436
Rumors, that this rocket simply had no warhead. Kind of "warning" for Zelensky.

>>64235445
Ackshually it was, no one got hurt. Some are saying it didnt even detonate.

>>64235447
No I'm not, it's what you're strongly clutching at because you can't refute my very reasonable argument
Perhaps you could quote me exactly where I did what you claim?

To the anti-westerners ITT, either be proud of killing civilians and accept your evil or shill how this was "justified".

>>64235457
What very reasonable argument are you making?

>>64235442
Gore packs don't win wars, silly.

>>64235372
Знaчит, ты китaйcкий y нac изyчaeшь? И кaк, пoхвaлишьcя ycпeхaми?
Или "нe я личнo"?

>>64235460
Holy fucking shit what are you even replying to me for you stupid cunt?
That mine clearance is directly related to the war effort, and that clearance of mines allows for easing of the logistical strain on the ukranian military
Read the fucking thread idiot, my posts are quite apparent

>>64235459
Nyet, we defeated HATO mining
https://files.catbox.moe/fzk5hf.mp4

>>64235472
>my posts are quite apparent
>you can tell because they are retarded

>>64235472
And feeding burgers to civilians in Ukraine helps the war effort
You are justifying war crimes, my zigger in Christ.

russia’s eternal identity crisis:
wants to cosplay as european with fancy cathedrals and tsarist regalia
but underneath it’s just mud hut asiatic blood, steppe mongrel instincts
this schizoid mix breeds nothing but vodka, cruelty, and degeneracy
never truly european, never truly asian, just a failed in-between
oh well

>>64235481
>And feeding burgers to civilians in Ukraine helps the war effort
It does, but unlike impartial demining operations in war zones, a McDonalds worker is protected by international conventions.

>>64235481
And fuel stops russian civilians dying, so once again you believe the refinery strikes are a warcrime? Because I don't.

>>64235479
Not an argument, do I have to explain this shit to you over and over
Funniest thing is I've made the most anti zigger posts all thread

>>64235469
> (triggered hohol)
Pyccкий - oдин из языкoв миpa. Дaжe ceйчac, пoд caнкциями, нa нeгo дeлaют лoкaлизaцию фильмoв и игp. Mнe и нe нyжнo ничeгo изyчaть.
Чeгo нe cкaжeшь пpo вaш нeзaлeжный нaхpюк.

>>64235491
Non-combatants are non-combatants, retard-kun.

>>64235416
>like other scalps and skulls on fenence have nothing with it.
Iirc it was russians who proudly posted cut off heads of ukrainian soldiers on fence posts and similar stuff.
Might be mistaken ofc - you are free to post evidence proving me wrong.

>>64235455
The parliament wasn't hit. There's absolutely no report to confirm that there was any hit on the parliament building.

>>64235499
So the refinery strikes are a warcrime?
>fucking groundhog day

>>64235261
>could you explain what is not deliberate about their deaths

Because what is being targeted in these strikes is the refinery, a strategic target, not the noncombatants operating it (who have ample warning of incoming slow moving propeller drones, unlike the EOD crews who are a direct target of a ballistic missile, and as has been previously mentioned, the refinery workers generaly seem pretty unconcerned about these attacks, to the point of filming them on their phones with commentary that is mostly a combination of sukas, blyats and yebats).
This is basic law of war. Targeting objects that make an effective contribution to enemy military actions is acceptable even if there are civilians in the vicinity, as long as you fulfilled two additional requirements that are
a) proportionality - the expected civilian losses can't be disproportionate to the military advantage gained by attacking such a target
b) precautions - you took every reasonable precaution to avoid or minimize accidental loss of civilian life

>their deaths
Which ones? Can you list any refinery strikes that were big casualty events, if the practice of droning refineries produces such a notable number of civilian casualties?
I don't doubt there were some deaths, but enough to break the proportionality of the refinery strikes and make them potential war crimes?

>>64235497
>Дaжe ceйчac, пoд caнкциями, нa нeгo дeлaют лoкaлизaцию фильмoв и игp

жaль чтo в пeдopaхии вce зaбaнeнo, пpичeм caмoй пeдopaхиeй бгг

>>64235499
Doing impartial EOD work against an enemy country means you're no longer a non-combatant. Disarming enemy obstacles is de facto taking part in hostilities.

>>64235495
>>64235505
No lmao, I don't believe striking energy infrastructure is a war crime, I am making a false equivalency between civilian demining operations and civilian burger operations
The key point is that anything in Ukraine can be justified as "helping the war effort" if you are a zigger who is hell-bent on justifying strikes on non-combatants.

>>64235354
fell for it bros…

>>64235513
and where does it say that? May you cite that source?

>>64235500
> Iirc it was russians who proudly posted cut off heads of ukrainian soldiers on fence posts and similar stuff.
Yes, but it was for joke, and it were Warners (people with specific humor). Unlike hohols, who makes POW executions clips in mass, clearly by goverment media course.

>>64234507
>Nomadic conquerors of the Mongol/Golden Horde world treated plunder, tribute and brutal reprisal as part of how war worked. S
It actually goes much further.
Russian state was created by Vikings conquest first. Vikings didn't bother to rule their subjects. They feasted all year in their settlements (that became Russian towns) and once a year made raid around conquered land collecting tribute.
Mongol invasion double tapped this way of life.

>>64235513
>Disarming enemy obstacles is de facto taking part in hostilities.
Demining shitty soviet mines and missiles in recaptured areas doesn't make them valid targets.

This is why zigs will eat each other.

>>64235524
>Unlike hohols, who makes POW executions clips in mass

They don't but I wish they did.

>saar we cut off POW heads as a joke saar
Rabbit hole of zigger subhumanry seems to have no end

>donbabwe getting shredded
>shills seething
what a nice evening

>>64235510
> oдypeвшeгo oт peaлий дyпoпepeмoжнoй cкoтoyблюдии пaнa хoхлa гpeeт лишь oднa нaдeждa: чтo y мocкaлiв вce eщe хyжe

>>64235506
OK, do you think mine defusal efforts are not a major boon to military logistical efforts? At what point do civilian casualties become not acceptable? If there is a cut off, what is it because your statement as is is completely ambiguous
Was WW2 strategic bombing a warcrime?
What civilian infrastructure (that is of benefit to the military) is ok, what is not?
Would targeting of canneries that supply rations be an acceptable target? What of the civilian workers?

>>64235517
go back saar

>>64235533
Cut of heads from _corpses_.

looks like russia is gonna field a very strong mental gymnastics tam at the zigger olympics or whatever that gay shit is called

>>64235543
You seem very intent on "proving" that striking Danish civilians is not a war crime.
I don't think you are convincing anyone.

>>64234352 (OP)
>Russia hits danish demining operation in ukraine.
usual shit from the kremlin tzd is the only way

>>64235541
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>>64235562
I'm trying to make you actually consider what the boundaries of a warcrime actually are
You don't have to answer every one of those, but I at least wanted to know if you've considered it
>>do you think mine defusal efforts are not a major boon to military logistical efforts?
If some plain clothes civilian ziggers got evaporated cleaning mines today, would you think it a warcrime?

>>64235526
>Demining shitty soviet mines and missiles in recaptured areas doesn't make them valid targets.
Those munitions are actively useful, being also part of an active, ongoing conflict.
International conventions only offer protection to IMPARTIAL demining operations.

Did Russia take part in a UN meeting where these specific demining actions were accepted by both sides and deconfliction was ensured?
If not, then there's very little impartiality in doing EOD work for one side like this.

>>64235543
>major boon to military logistical efforts

If they're demining in an area with active ongoing hostilities in preparation for troop movements, they can be reasonably considered to make an effective contribution to military action, and are therefore taking part in said hostilities. Here your "randos in turbans burying 152mm shells alongside a road" comparison actually apllies.
If they're clearing mines and UXO deep in what is now the rear in order to minimize risk to civilians living in the area, you can't reasonably link that to any effective contribution to enemy military action, and as such they cannot be considered a valid military objective.

>>64235536
Part of their grand offensiev in Pokrovsk is under real threat of encirclement as well
This is going to be a very TZD rich September already

>>64235524
>who makes POW executions clips in mass
Than please post some.
I won't believe yours "I'm afraid of getting banned for posting gore" - 1)you can use catbox 2)you are getting banned regardless after jannie sees this thread
(and no, "drone kills are ackhchually pow executions"-cope doesn't apply. as well as vids from 2022 of "sof shooting captives in the knees" and "someone somewhere sticks a knife into someone else's eye, and it seems it's filmed on a brick phone from 00s, trust me its pow execution" do not qualify as "en masse").

>>64235581
But mightly copeoffensove was sheduled on summer. What delayed them?

>>64235573
If a group of twenty or so civilians from Chechnya got HIMAR'sd trying to put out a fire in Rostov-on-Don I would consider that a war-crime.
Since there are very few heavily mined areas in Russia that aren't frontline combat zones, it isn't particularly logical to apply the exact same scenario.

>>64235593
Also, wouldn't "paying taxes" be a "major boon to military logistical efforts", and thus make all Russian taxpayers fair game?

>>64235589
Uhhhhhh it's off-topic to talk about it or something

>>64235573
russia killed Danish humanitarian workers.
You may think you are being witty and subversive, but the Danish government will use the footage to convince the Danish people that russians are indeed rabid dogs that need to be put down and Danish military aid to Ukraine will increase (fun fact, Denmark is actually one of the most important contributors).
Normally I would be amazed by how much of a cretin you are, but then I remember that you are most likely brown and think that lightning is some god being angry and that children are brought by storks.

>>64235584
> (and no, "drone kills are ackhchually pow executions"-cope doesn't apply.
...because?

> as well as vids from 2022 of "sof shooting captives in the knees"
It's just a fact. Hohols got away with it just because they are in "right" side of conflict.

>>64234749
Stating a fact about the nature of war is not an endorsement of it.

>>64235605
> dutch will give us more gibs for this video!
A hohol mindset.

>>64234385
>goes to an active warzone
>no decals anywhere
>bombs them
>suprised that they die

>>64235602
>blue arrows of pressure
What if squeezing it there just makes it harder? Checkmate.

>>64235614
Don't forget about how Azov crucified russian boys wearing shorts and other things that totally happened.

>>64234620
Because they are retarded fucking shills that don't belong here.

==== THE THREAD SUMMARY====

number of people convinced russians are not actually subhumans: probably zero

number of people convinced a one-time $5 donation for a ukrainian FPV drone isn't actually a bad investment: probably slightly above zero

bravo, 5D chess psyop geostrategists :^)

>>64235616
>perform military EOD
>call yourself a humanitarian aid worker

>>64235627
Yes, but video suspicious, and feels like done even before war.

>>64235616
More like
>a single pedophile avatarfag from Lakhta earning his ingestible cologne to cope with his SECOND SUPERPOOPER fucking up

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>>64235602
This makes me happy :) thank you

>>64235579
>Here your "randos in turbans burying 152mm shells alongside a road"
Wasn't actually me and I didn't understand or agree with that argument
It's still logistically important to the military nationwide realistically, I understand what you're saying about relativity but these nations are in a serious war society and economy the effort is everywhere. Minefields bog down the logistics train and effort and are inherently a strategic asset even in backline
And logistical movements of troops, equipment an supplies. Even so backline their very existence benefits the russian position because it funnels everything to strain what is clear.

>>64235631
So all of the UN peacekeepers doing demining operations in literally every African country on the planet are active combatants?
You sure about that?

The damage control by gulgahomo shills convinces me that this news wasn't received very well by monke and his thralls. Rightfully so, because TzD will continue.

>>64235626
So this is how the mighty mobik Cube is formed

>>64235635
"HOY F<** THESE TOURISTS"**.

Seems like you’re playfully calling out tourists or just having fun with the phrase. Want to dive into that thought, or are you just messing around with some creative text?

>>64235635
l33t :)

>>64235614
>Hohols got away with it just because they are in "right" side of conflict.
The whole concept of "war crimes" is complete bullshit, obviously. If the winning side commits war crimes, who's going to prosecute them? Themselves? It's always and only a punishment imposed by the winners to cull the officer and leadership ranks to make occupying the country easier.

By every metric, the firebombing of Dresden and the nuclear annihilation of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were blatant war crimes. Mass unrestricted murder of children, women, elderly, everyone. Yet despite both sides of the war doing unspeakable atrocities to each other in more or less equal measure, one set of horrifying atrocities was "necessary" while the other set was "barbaric."

If you believe yourself to be righteous, you can commit no evil.

>>64235601
Depends how far you cut it? In the world wars food was certainly considered fair game, is starving your entire enemy civilian population ok?
>>64235593
And if ukraine did that and doubletapped some warehouse i'd both most likely not call it a war crime and laugh about it, unless ukraine happens to be bombing a children's cancer ward or something then I'd probably think it's pretty bad shit

>>64235635
I remember how many newfags got filtered by this on April 1st

>>64235574
>Those munitions are actively useful, being also part of an active, ongoing conflict.
is bombing a mre factory okay then?
nigger

>>64235644
oh cool it IS a fucking GPT

>>64235650
reddit exists rent free in minds of snowflakes like you

>>64235605
I hope Denmark does all of that and then NATO nukes russia into oblivion, glad we agree on something
I don't think it was a warcrime

>>64235624
You want me to post about some more of your idols again?

>>64235664
The whole discussion assumed that there are rules of war.
Ofcourse they are stomped in this conflict, but hohols still weeping about them. I just remind, who started it.

> who's going to prosecute them?
Technically, UN could at least officially blame them.

fucking hell this thread is a shitshow.
I hope denmark responds accordingly by blowing up the Russian embassy.

>>64235593
>If a group of twenty or so civilians from Chechnya got HIMAR'sd trying to put out a fire in Rostov-on-Don I would consider that a war-crime.
That's a weak stance. I counter it with: "You have the right to defend your home by whatever means you deem necessary, even if it includes chasing the trespassing nigger to his trailer park and burning down his entire family there to make sure these incidents won't happen in the future"

>>64235639
>It's still logistically important to the military nationwide realistically

Nowhere near enough to fulfill the proportionality requirement.
Following your train of logic to its logical conclusion would be saying that every enemy noncombatant is paying taxes, therefore making an effective contribution to military action, so killing him can be considered a valid military objective.

>>64235688
Technically Russian backed seperatists from the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic started this war eleven years ago.

>>64235641
Can you give me a couple examples of ongoing United Nations demining operations in internationally recognized countries that are currently at war with another internationally recognized country?
From there I can look into if the demining operations are being impartial, because once again, impartiality is what provides protection to demining operations.

Do note, that the "Danish Refugee Council is a private Danish humanitarian nonprofit organization, founded in 1956." So their actions are not quite comparable to actual United Nations operations.

>>64235711
>Impartiality
>The "Danish Refugee Council is a prive Danish humanitarian nonprofit organization
Fucking retard

>>64235696
bless your soul, moderates. never change

>>64235695
I hope Denmark and the rest of northern europe get rid of all russian embassies and ambassadors. They are all spies disguised as diplomats anyway lol

>>64235697
Well starving the working nation to death was a very real tactic in wars up and through the 20th century, so you tell me
Was the blockade and submarine vs convoy warfare of ww1 and 2 a warcrime? Was US and UK herbicide a warcrime in the 60s and 70s in South East Asia?

>>64235721
I agree. A private organization doing military EOD is not at all impartial.

>ESL vatnig
>avatarfags with pics of western cartoon
Very based and trad indeed.

>>64234385
Come on now, now it's not humanitarian work if you're demining in the middle of a war.

>>64235737
>up and through the 20th century

We are talking modern LOAC, can we please fucking stick to it without repeatedly going off on a tangent about "ummm ackchyually Marcus Licinius Crassus crucified six thousand slaves along Via Appia after the end of the Third Servile War, so crucifying POWs is not a warcrime, checkmate atheist"? Thank you.

> WWIII
> you are in trench
> suddenly, doctor fror Red Cross appers and starts to cut down our protective barby wire
Is it allowed to shoot him?

>>64235744
Tell me, retard-kun, what is the difference between military and non-military EOD?
Impartiality?

>>64235614
> ...because?
Because its a concept exclusive to gigaretard pol-bubble, who circlejerk to an image of russia mostly constructed not even by propaganda, but by their own imaginations.

> It's just a fact. Hohols got away with it just because they are in "right" side of conflict.
I did not ask your totally groundbreaking opinion about nature of war crimes and stuff. I asked for evidence of "POW executions clips in mass, clearly by goverment media", which you are for some reason reluctant to provide.
And 1,5 videos from 3+ years - yeah, they might be warcrimes, its irrelevant to this conversation. They simply do not qualify as "makes"(present tense) "en masse"(in large amounts or numbers).

>>64235768
>ww2 is comparable to ancient Rome
Wew, you don't think war crimes and ww2 make sense to reference?
OK what did modern LOAC dictate about UK and US using herbicide to starve the guerilla (and civilian) populations a warcrime? Let alone the debate mostly being about it being various degrees of toxic chemical. Honestly the the former part of that statement I don't, but I really don't think 8 guys demining a minefield in a nation at war was a warcrime.

>>64235776
no retard, you just take him prisoner

>>64235687
>I hope Denmark does all of that and then NATO nukes russia into oblivion
We've really got to do something about you moderates

>>64235818
no, you just shoot him)))
if a kid wandered in your trench you shoot him too ))))

holy shit i hate ruslims so much its unreal

>>64235818
What if you're not in a position to take prisoners?

>>64235863
what if my dick is between your mom's cheeks? fuck off, retard

>>64235871
Okay so answer the question.

>>64235883
They're non-combatants lmao
You just let them go.

>>64235776
you've posted in this thread at least 24 times. give it up man.

>>64235744
I heard they were literally crucifying little Donbass boys((((((((((

>jannies clean up 50 or so posts
>thread falls silent
Really makes you think

>>64236144
Many such cases, thirdies gonna thirdie

>>64236144
>janny warns and bans me for off topic posting
>because I was talking about warcrimes
>doesn't care about me talking about putting gopniks through literal meatgrinders
>64235061
>64235131
All me lmao

>>64234476
>if you're European and come to "Russia" [aka Ukraine], Russia WILL kill you
if you are russian and come to Europe [aka Ukraine]. We will kill you for the equivalent of the change you found stuck in a zoomers bought and paid for house

>>64234927
That still doesn't mean that a Mongol isn't vastly superior to a Russian legally, ethically and morally.

The United States must take immediate and decisive action to hold russia accountable for this grave violation of human rights, dignity, and the rules based international order.

This will lead to a further coalescence of US based opinion against the anti-social behaviours of the illegitimate Putin regime, and serve as a rallying cry as the US finally decides to do the right thing after trying all the wrong things, and simply enter the war and confront Russia militarily, as literally every ally has been saying.

>>64235574
>Those munitions are actively useful
from the russian perspective 150% so
but the rest of the world (with the exception of israel) doesn't think that blowing up kids and civilians is actively useful

>>64234389
It seems retarded. It is, but probably not in the way you think it is. Is most likely happened because their drone cameras are too shit to reliably identify anything. All they saw is a bunch of suspicious vans parked in the middle of nowhere. So in their great wisdom and competence, they called in the missile and clapped each other on the shoulder for having totally foiled a dastardly hohol plot of some sort. And then they of course handed the video over to the shilling department, before actually making any effort to find out what they just hit.

Personally, I find that no less detestable than if they did it fully on purpose.

>>64234611
Their production is done by like 90% or something ridiculous like that

>>64234620
Cyrillic keyboards usually don’t have a “:” to make a smiley face emoticon, so they just type several “)”s.

>>64236348
> Is most likely happened because their drone cameras are too shit to reliably identify anything. All they saw is a bunch of suspicious vans parked in the middle of nowhere. So in their great wisdom and competence, they called in the missile and clapped each other on the shoulder for having totally foiled a dastardly hohol plot of some sort
>>64234389
> iskander for backlines mine clearance seems pretty retarded
In op video they repeatedly call the target "attack uav operators".
Might of course be a russian lie, but might as well be a mistake of identification and eagerness to report a win.

>>64236366
no, the real reason is the same as why you type ":)" instead of the canonical ":-)". It's just too much effort to make something this simple look correct

>>64236348
Hitting shit at random based on vibe targeting is clearly much worse than hitting people removing a minefield. One is a reckless disregard of the possibility of civilian casualties (not that the Russians care), while the other is clearly justifiable.

>>64234389
Russia probably did it because Denmark authorized new weapons to ukraine. Which implies Russian intel is not that bad seeing as they singled out the Danes there.

>>64236448
your own intel seems pretty alright too, you fucking moron

>>64235553
>shot down an airliner full of Dutch people in 2014
>constant cyberattacks in various countries
>funnel Middle Eastern migrants into Poland via Belarus
>escort African migrants across the Mediterranean into Italy from Libya
>hold a Greek oil tanker hostage in Estonia
>kill Danish civilians doing demining operations
They’re doing an amazing job at pissing off all of Europe.

>>64236458
It happened literally the day after Denmark authorized the weapons to ukraine. September 3, Denmark announces weapon deal. September 4, two dead Danes in ukraine.

>>64236483
you really do have one extra chromosome, it seems

>>64236498
You are a hypocrite that can't see the irony of Denmark authorizing weapons to kill Russians and then the very next day, Russia kills two Danes.

>>64234476
If these guys were americans the entire frontline would already be saturated with f-35s. Fuck around and find out, Ivan

>>64234364
You would be cheering if the roles were reversed, admit it.

>>64236530
Russians are illegally invading a neighboring country and hunting civilians so, yes

>>64234563
>>64234352 (OP)
russia is a terrorist state

>>64236539
>"illegally invading"
>implying there are legal invasions

>>64236478
>funnel Middle Eastern migrants
>escort African migrants
If "Europe" gets mad over that that's just hypocrisy. If they don't like it they can just close their borders.

>>64234352 (OP)
>danish demining operation in ukraine
The fuck? The country's at war, what're they demining? What if you need that shit to stop the Russians?

If it's not in the theater, who placed the mines there and why? Why do they need the danes to demine anything?

>>64236512
i still don't see how that makes you not a subhuman, my dumb little ruslim

>>64236366
> Cyrillic keyboards usually don’t have a “:”
They do. Its Shift+6.
As already said, too much effort. But its not the reason for not making them "correct".
The thing is, both ":-)", and ":)", and even ":-)))))))))))))"(various length signifying extra friendliness) in its straightforward use became old-fashioned and "obsolete" way back, around the start of 2010s.
Now "))))))))))))" is used mostly in ironic way, to sound smug and condescending without seeming to be too bothered, to mock someone without greentexting.
Or by old women, for its "original" purpose.

>>64236544
Anything is legal if you want it to be, the law is make-belief. All you need is enough guns to make people nod and agree that whatever you say is right.

>>64234722
Rolling for quads, I want to see a nuke go off in my lifetime (No, a seismic sensor going off doesn't count)

>>64236557
I'm a white American and I can tell you to your face I hate Europeans in general. Doesn't matter if you're faggot Dutch, Bong, Frog, achmed, Dane, Pole, Tony, Svens, or Russian. Denmark got a little taste of karma and everyone of you faggots loses it.

>>64236575
>I'm a white American
post hands gun and outlet

>>64236575
why are you like this, ruslim? can't wear your identity with pride, maybe your so called nation is not so great as you claim it to be?

>>64234710
There is nothing in the laws of war stating someone has to be in uniform to be considered a combatant.

When you are messing with ordinance laid by a uniformed force in an active conflict, you are opening yourself to being attacked by that uniformed force.

Do you think the US just let the "civilians" in Afghanistan mess with their deployed equipment?

>>64235523

The entire point of the mines are to limit military movements. Attempting to remove them is directly contributing to the strategic state of the battlefield, and therefore turns the removal team into a strategic military target.

>>64236551
I think we'll just close down Russia instead.

>>64235579

There is no limit to "behind the front lines" in modern war. The point of mine fields has nothing to do with the front line fight and everything to do with limiting freedom of movement by military forces. Freeing up movement for "civilians" is also freeing up movement for military.

>>64236608
If we were on reddit I'd give you an upvote and gold.

>>64236602
>The entire point of the mines are to limit military movements. Attempting to remove them is directly contributing to the strategic state of the battlefield, and therefore turns the removal team into a strategic military target.
the military already bypassed those mines. they aren't being limited by them. those dudes were cleaning up the mess for the sake of civilians and were purposely targeted by subhumans. it was a warcrime

>>64234352 (OP)
>This thread
If I were a mod, I would ban the Ukraine & Russia war thread, along with the drone gore thread too.

>>64236625
If I were a mod I'd ban all third worlders like you

>>64236622

"The military already bypassed those mines."

That doesn't mean that Russia wants Ukraine to have even more freedom of movement. Do you not understand the importance of logistics?

>>64236635
Russia hit what they thought was some sort of a drone crew.

>>64236634
>no hands
>no timestamp

>>64236635
It doesn't matter what orcs want. they were cizilians not directly involved in hostilities and targeting them was a war crime.

>sks fag
figures

>>64236641
Hand is in the upper left retard. Now post yours faggot. That's not even half of my guns or mags.

>>64236646
I own 6 ARs and one SKS. The SKS is now literally worth $900. And I'll say it again. Fuck Europe and Europeans.

>>64236649
not until you post a proper pic

>>64236634
Fat fuck

>>64236645

Removing military hardware from an active warzone is contributing to the hostilities. The mines were not placed there to look pretty or be removed by third parties.

>>64236649
>grab random gun picture off the internet
>grab random up-clsoe picture of a white finger
>photoshop it in
>no timestamp
You're either a pathetic liar, or genuinely too retarded to understand why this ain't how it works. In either case, you have proven yourself as too subhuman and brown to enjoy the privilege of having your opinion regarded as valid or of demanding others post guns.

>>64236653
still no timestamp, you keep farting in the wind

>>64236664
>Removing military hardware from an active warzone is contributing to the hostilities.
that is still not DIRECTLY involving themselves in hostilities and targeting them was still a war crime

>>64236657
Moving goalposts. Post yours now faggot.

>>64236656
I remove exif on everything I post to 4channel. They literally data mine anything you upload and share it with corporations and government institutions if they ask for it.

>>64236662
6'1 190lbs. That is part of my head near my thumb, not my wrist.

>>64236645
Removing mines is clearly a hostile military act, it doesn't matter of they were behind the frontline. You're just playing with words by using "directly". By any military definition, they are indeed directly involved in hostilities.

>>64236664
Removing mines from rear areas is humanitarian aid work, murdering humanitarian aid workers is a warcrime, and being a subhuman apologist piece of shit for it like (You) is an act deserving of an exceedingly slow and cruel death.

>>64236678
>I remove exif on everything
Funny that you also remove timestamp too

>>64236678
>Moving goalposts. Post yours now faggot
I'm not moving anything. you failed to comply with the original request and I won't post mine until you post a time stamped pic showing hands gun and outlet together.

>>64236641
The incredible amount of people who refuse to have a timestamp after 2022 is amazing.

>>64236676
They are removing strategically placed mines. They are directly attempting to interact with a strategic military target. Removing the mines is a direct strategic military benefit to Ukraine.

Russia did not agree to have its mines removed to the benefit of the enemy military.

>>64236672
Here's the SKS in the woods. Yes I removed the bayonet, it's my gun and I can do what the fuck I want with it. I don't see you posting yours. Now shut the fuck up faggot European. I'm in the majority sentiment of Americans when I say, fuck Europe and Europeans.

>>64236621
Keep seething.

>>64236686
>By any military definition, they are indeed directly involved in hostilities.
no, they aren't, that's why it's a war crime
>>64236700
that is still not directly involving themselves 8n hostilities you retard

>>64236678
>Moving goalposts.
Yes, that is what you are doing by refusing to post a single, non-photoshpopped pic containing your guns, hands and a timestamp.

>Post yours now faggot.
Once you've stopped trying to shift the goalposts and posted yours, trannoid negro.

>>64236688
>>64236689
I don't need to jump through you hoops or even respond at all. But I posted mine. Where's yours?

Oh you didn't post your. Ok achmed now shut the fuck up.

>4channel
Update your script.

>>64236702
>no hands
>no timestamp
Invalid. Try again. The next invalid attmept will be trewated as an admissionm on your part that you're a noguns brownoid.

>>64236711
>But I posted mine
you didn't. you posted someone's gun and someones hand but provided no proof they are yours.
do it right or we'll simply assume you're brown and a liar

>>64236710
I literally took those images myself, resized and wiped exif. Only nufag retards post their exif data on this data mining site.

>>64236711
>I don't need to jump through you hoops
Your admission that you're a noguns brownoid and that your opions are invalid is duly accepted. Kindly do mankind a favour and kys.

>>64236687

There is no "rear" in modern vehicle combat. The front line of the war is wherever the explosions are happening.

Mines are placed to inhibit troop movement and logistics. Behind the enemy lines is where a military WANTS to place mines. Placing mines behind their own lines to limit supplies and reinforcements makes no sense.

Calling it "humanitarian work" does not change the reality, which is that civilians don't have some human right to free movement in a war zone.

Lol he's mad

>>64236702
>fuck Europe and Europeans.
but not russia, right?

>>64236725
4chan wipes exif data you retarded brownoid

>>64235007
Demining farm fields hundreds of miles from the line of contact is “not participating in the conflict”. Manufacturing missiles is participating in the conflict.

>>64236723
Keep coping.

>>64236725
You literally failed to provide a valid picture contianing waht was asked of you, and then started making up equally invalid and worthless excuses for it.

Your admission that you're a noguns brownoid and that your opions are invalid is duly accepted.

>>64236731
>modern vehicle combat
Humanitarian aid work is not a part of "modern vehicle combat". Please die an exceedingly slow and painful death, subhuman warcirme apologist scum, you have no right to waste mankinds precious oxygen.

>>64236742
>posts more random pictures downloaded from the internet, without hands or timestamp
I mean at this point just openly admit that you are mentally incapable of udnerstanding basic instructions. Not like you're gonna embarass yourself further, noguns brownoid.

>>64236749
I make extra deep breaths to steal even more oxygen. Your next move?

>>64236737
It copies and saves it. And I still don't see you posting yours.

>>64236711
>you didn't post yours
Here you go anon, no timestamp required so you're going to have to just believe this is me
You can send me your apology next

>>64236760
>And I still don't see you posting yours.
you need to post your first like I told you. it's not complicated

>>64236753
Still haven't posted yours huh. Get the fuck off this board then faggot.

>>64236709

Removing the mines is directly contributing to hostilities, you absolute retard. They are attempting to disarm military assets. Distance from the "front line" does not change the fact that attempting to disarm a military mine is directly contributing to hostilities.

>>64234352 (OP)
The white vans are untouched. Something further up the road was burning.

>>64236767
>>64236770
>>64236773
3 posts and not one personal firearm image. Your opinions are disregarded.

>>64236780
>Removing the mines is directly contributing to hostilities, you absolute retard.
no, it isn't. shooting people is direct involvement. spotting for artillery is direct involvement. planting mines is direct involvment. demining behind friendly lines isn't.

>>64236791
Despite all the shit they get, they've armed more Americans than the majority of companies out there and they work fine. That SR40c you see me posting has 3k rounds through it without a malfunction and it's one of the smallest .40sw double stacks on the market to this day and you can't find them anymore because the people who own them, keep them.

>>64236789
Excuse me, I posted my personal rpg, apologize to me, here's another picture of it

>>64236789
>not one personal firearm image
you haven't posted any either

>>64236749
Saying "humanitarian aid work" ad nauseam does not all of a sudden give "civilians" the ability to disarm military counter measures of their own volition.

Limiting the economic and military movements of the enemy is absolutely valid war strategy. Russia is not a signatory to the international agreements banning anti personnel mines. Defending their own strategically placed mine fields from being dismantled is not a war crime.

>>64236789
You won't get any picture from us because we still can't be sure that you're not a russoid asking his american penpal to send him some pictures of his guns so you could prove a point on /k/. A simple timestamp would fix that problem, but you consistently refuse to do it, and that just makes you look even more suspicious and untrustworthy.

>>64236803
I look like this and say this.

>>64236803
>>64236801
If you can't recognize a personal image from a bot upload or a nogun faggot repost like you. You might as well be bots yourself. Go ahead and reverse image search my images. Nothing will come up. Because I took them. Even if you wipe exif on an already uploaded image it will show up in search somewhere on the internet.

>>64236809
that won't stop them from being proscecuted. it was a war crime and how the ziggers feel about it doesn't change that

>>64236816
You're not uploading because your noguns Euro faggots. I've been around the block kid. I've been posting here a long time, easily a decade before this recent Russian ukraine shit.

>>64236828
>more excuses
Yawn. Go die in a ukrainian ditch or something, pidor.

>>64236823
post a proper pic or you're a turdie shill

>>64236796
You cannot point out spotting for artillery and then pretend that defensive actions aren't also valid direct contributions.

Again, the entire point of placing mine fields is to have them behind the enemy lines to prevent ease of logistics. You keep wanting to parrot "behind friendly lines" as if that isn't acknowledging that the de-mining isn't directly contributing to the war in favor of Ukraine. Ukraine's military benefits from the mine clearance, which is the exact opposite of why those mines are even there.

News flash: civilians have no place messing with military equipment in a war zone.

>>64236823
Or maybe you just trimmed one edge, which would also stop reverse image search from finding exact matches
Here's another picture of my rpg launcher, where is my apology?
Ah I'm only kidding anon, only a retard would think that I own this rpg launcher because I didn't post a timestamp with it, I mean that's the whole point of a timestamp, it's super easy to do, so anyone who doesn't just immediately post one is obviously lying
Anyway, time is up, nogunz

>>64236837
>You cannot point out spotting for artillery and then pretend that defensive actions aren't also valid direct contributions.
why not? they're not the same and your sad attemps to convince us otherwise aren't working.
spotting for artillery is a directly hostile action, you're calling shells down on orcish heads. disarming mines behind the frontlines to protect civilians isn't.

>>64236827
Prosecuted? You are really stupid, and it's actually laughable at this point. Russia isn't a signatory to any of the organizations to "prosecute" them, just as much as the US isn't.

>>64236828
>your
lmao

>>64236832
>>64236834
>>64236844
I have literally 7 unique uploads at this point. You collectively have 0 (ZERO). You're opinions are disregarded. Fuck Europe and fuck Europeans. You're just outing yourself as you've always done, as nogun delusional hypocrite faggots.

>>64236867
Wow anon, that's rude, I posted 3 (THREE) different pictures of my rpg launcher

>>64236867
>I have literally 7 unique uploads at this point. You collectively have 0 (ZERO). You're opinions are disregarded. Fuck Europe and fuck Europeans. You're just outing yourself as you've always done, as nogun delusional hypocrite faggots.

>>64236852
Direct contribution has NEVER meant that the person had to be directly involved in the killing of anyone. Trying to make up your own definition of what constitutes direct contribution to hostilities doesn't change reality.

>>64236867
>Fuck Europe and fuck Europeans.
but not russia, right?

>>64236867
>You're
lmao

>>64236879
Russia is European.

>>64236875
>Trying to make up your own definition of what constitutes direct contribution to hostilities doesn't change reality.
every accusation is a confession with you faggots lol

>>64236902
then why do you want to fuck yourself?

>>64236875
Not him but generally, according to ICRCs definition, three cumulative criteria determine whether someone is directly involved
1. Threshold of Harm - an act must be likely to adversely affect the military operations or military capacity of a party to the conflict, or inflict death, injury, or destruction on persons or objects protected against direct attack.
2. Direct Causal Link - there must be a direct causal link between the act and the expected harm
3. Belligerent Nexus, the actor act must be specifically intended to help one party in the conflict and harm another — not just incidentally.
Demining operations in the rear don't meet these criteria

>>64236867
>the most calm Rugerfag

>>64236871
>>64236874
Proving my point.

>>64236927
>no hand or outlet
you're so close

>>64236927
timestamp, not a datestamp

>>64236927
>still can't timestamp properly despite being here for over a decade
Yeah, we're not actually getting one, are we? Opinion forever discarded

>>64236934
>>64236937
>>64236939
Yet not one you has posted a single personal firearm image still. In my 15 plus years of time on 4chan and now 4channel I have only seen a European upload a legit personal firearm picture once (1 time).

>>64236927
now write "fuck europe AND russia" or you're a brownoid

>>64236951
Russia IS Europe you fucking mongoloid. 30% of continental Europe IS Russia. And if you follow the post chain I said fuck .....etc "Poles, and Russians".

>>64236955
ok, now write it. write "fuck russia" or you're brown

>>64236957
Post your personal firearm pics or you're brown and noguns.

>>64236950
wow anon so rude, I posted my rpg launcher
I will now predict that you will not post a single further image

>>64236927
you know what, I'll throw you a bone because you at least posted a timestamp even though you couldn't follow basic instructions

>>64236965
>no timestamp
>can't write "fuck russia"
yeah, you're brown. or a russian. which is basically the same.

>>64236912
>Yourself
I'm not European.

>>64236974
So you just outed yourself as a Euro brownnoser by not writing TED (total European death). They're a bunch of hypocritical limp wrist faggots not worth American time, money, protection, or blood.

>>64236921
According to your own post, they meet all 3 criteria.
>1. Destroying military material - landmines
>2. By means of intentional demining
>3. For the benefit of one side and detriment of another - for the benefit of Ukraine.

>>64236989
Yeah, nah, afraid not, and you'll never find a court that agrees with you either

>>64236989
they don't meet any of the criteria you glue sniffer. learn to read

>>64236995
>>64236998
You know you're not supposed to pretend you're retarded when proven wrong.

>>64236796
How is planting mines direct involvement yet removing them not? Be consistent.

>>64236984
So rude, but to be fair I couldn't agree more about russians, they are a blight upon this earth and it is our duty to ensure they die down to the last russian
It is moderately funny that they kvetch about other people being gay when they are turbogay themselves, but that alone isn't enough for them to be spared the sword

>>64237005
>I proved you wrong because I said so
lol
lmao

>>64236796
>demining behind friendly
How is it a humanitarian effort if you take sides and work directly to improve only one side's battlefield layout?

>>64237006
>How is planting mines direct involvement yet removing them not? Be consistent.
see:
an act must be likely to adversely affect the military operations or military capacity of a party to the conflict, or inflict death, injury, or destruction on persons or objects protected against direct attack.
is reading comprehension not taught in your country or something?

>>64237014
Uhm, I proved you wrong because: >>64236989

>>64237017
Okay so just nonsense. Got it, thanks for clearing that up.

>>64237015
>battlefield layout
They were near Kyiv not Sumy

>>64237017
to further elaborate disarming mines does not adversely affect operations of ziggistan because they have already been bypassed and are now in the rear, and the mines are not objectes protected against diret attack

>>64237024
So... On a battlefield.

>>64237019
But those supposed points you made are all patently false, so no, you didn't

>>64237023
I accept your concession

>>64237025
>disarming mines does not adversely affect operations
That's not for you to decide actually. They were planted there and then some retards came over to destroy them without asking.

>>64237030
Sorry to break it to you anon, but Kyiv is not a battlefield anymore, in fact it's nearly 1000km from it

>>64237033
Actually all 3 points are correct, that's why you're seething and coping instead of trying to refute them.

>>64237042
>That's not for you to decide actually.
you're right, that's for the courts and I doubt the'll agree with you
>>64237042
>then some retards came over to destroy them without asking.
they don't need to ask. if russia wanted to have a say in that matter they shouldn't have retreated

>>64237047
Seems like a battlefield to me, something's always exploding and some assholes keep dying while executing military missions.

>>64237051
>Actually all 3 points are correct
except for the part where they meet none of the necessary criteria

>>64237055
>You no longer own the mines you planted because uhm...
>YOU JUST DON'T OKAY?
More like, if they had asked, they would've been told not to touch the mines, and then their entire mission statement would be invalidated.

>>64237059
Except they do, my post contains simple and concise explanation why.

>>64237062
>>You no longer own the mines you planted because uhm...
>>YOU JUST DON'T OKAY?
you really are a simpleton aren't you? would I be allowed to shoot you for towing my car if I'd parked it on your lawn without asking?

>>64237051
>>64236989
>According to your own post, they meet all 3 criteria.
>1. Destroying military material - landmines
A minefield 1000km from the front is not relevant to military operation
>2. By means of intentional demining
A minefield is not party to the conflict and cannot experience harm
>3. For the benefit of one side and detriment of another - for the benefit of Ukraine.
Incidentally, because it's 1000km from the front
>All three points are correct
You didn't even understand the second one, much less make a coherent argument

>>64237056
Again, I'm very sorry to be the one to break it to you, but it's not by any definition that matters

>>64237074
>Would I be allowed to shoot you while you're stealing my car?
Yes, retard. Landowners do not have authority to commit theft of items on their property.

>>64237068
see
>>64237017
>>64237025
I already explained why they don't meet the first criteria. they also don't meet the second because there was no harm, and they don't meet the third because they are not harming another party as was pointed out in my previous posts

>>64237088
>Landowners do not have authority to commit theft of items on their property.
it's not theft and landowners certainly do have the right to remove items from their property just like the tow company has the right to hold your car until you pay them for the removal

>deleted and banned
lol
lmao

>>64237079
>A minefield 1000km from the front is not relevant to military operation
Not confirmed by owners of the landmines, suspects did not make any attempt to contact owners.
>A minefield is not party to the conflict and cannot experience harm
Placing of a landmine is made for the benefit of a military operation. Destroying it adversely affects the military operation of a minefield. Read line 2.

>2. Direct Causal Link - there must be a direct causal link between the act and the expected harm
They expected the mines to be destroyed and operations of a minefield to be disrupted as a result of their actions, and the mines were destroyed and the military operation of a minefield was disrupted.

>Incidentally, because it's 1000km from the front
So? Who cares where is it related to the frontline? Not a requirement.

>You didn't even understand the second one, much less make a coherent argument
You're the one who failed to understand it. You must be ESL.

Absolutely outstanding

>>64237102
The owners of the minefield don't determine if it's relevant to an ongoing conflict
A minefield cannot experience harm because it's an inanimate object
Removal of the minefield only incidentally aids Ukraine because it's so far from the front
Your failure to understand doesn't change anything, and you still fail to understand the second criteria, hilarious

>>64237102
>Not confirmed by owners of the landmines, suspects did not make any attempt to contact owners.
no permission is needed
>Placing of a landmine is made for the benefit of a military operation. Destroying it adversely affects the military operation of a minefield. Read line 2.
that military operation failed years ago and that area is long behind the front lines since then. it is no longer relevant and does not adversely affect the operation.
>They expected the mines to be destroyed and operations of a minefield to be disrupted as a result of their actions, and the mines were destroyed and the military operation of a minefield was disrupted.
the minefield is no longer operationally relevant
>So? Who cares where is it related to the frontline? Not a requirement.
it is if you're trying to claim it disrupted current operations

thanks for cleaning up the trash mr janny, you're alright with me

>>64234398
retard

>>64237079
>>64237090
>>64237118
>A minefield 1000km from the front is not relevant to military operation
No one asked the owners if it was or wasnt relevant to their military operations. No attempt was made to ask. Permission is required, otherwise we're looking at clause 3 - actor intends to help one party and harm another.
>A minefield is not party to the conflict and cannot experience harm
A military operation of placing minefields can be adversely affected by the act of destroying the mines. This is specified in point 1.
>Incidentally, because it's 1000km from the front
No limits on distance to the front are outlined, only role in operations.
>>64237124
>it is if you're trying to claim it disrupted current operations
Military operations can take place behind the frontline on either side, no requirements.

How it really went down
>Dutch decided to play mercenaries and offered demining services to Ukraine
>Demining is done via explosives since many mines cannot be removed safely, only destroyed
>Ukraine arms them with explosives to destroy landmines
>Alternatively, the Dutch entered the warzone with their own explosives.
>Unlawful combatants, armed with explosives, attend to a minefield placed by another belligerent with intent to sabotage it.
>Try to destroy military materiel with explosives without asking for permission or even notifying the other belligerent of demining operations
>???
>400 posts on /k/, bumplimit
>"See you in court!"

.

>>64237047
All military sites in ukraine are fair game for Russia. Technically, everywhere in Ukraine is fair game, schools, apartments, shipping docks etc. That's war. Not one country in the history of the Geneva convention has obeyed it on the ground. In the last 125 years there has scarcely been a single consecutive month without war somewhere on this planet. As soon as you step foot in ukraine you are technically in a warzone (a nation at war where its entire geography is valid for military strikes). USA did the same thing in the Middle East and even did multiple cross border strikes, killed women children and civilians, because they could, who cares. That's war and it never changes. Cry a river faggot.

>b-but what about the poor sandniggerinos??!!??!? America BAD!!!!

This poster is brown.

>>64237169
Fuck sandniggers to dumbass. Stack the bodies up and shut the fuck up. That's war.

>>64237163
It was bad when the US did it indifferently and it's worse now that Russia does it consciously.
Pretty simple, anon.

>>64234398
genius

>>64237157
Mines getting castle doctrine is fucking absurd anon holy shit.

>>64237157
>Dutch

>>64237157
>Dutch
why are you so brown and retarded?

>>64237157
Transparent, you've begun from a conclusion and are attempting to shape criteria to meet your conclusion instead of the other way around
Seethe, cope, etc...

>>64235650
retard

>>64237157
>>64237198
Danes of course. Not a fan dutch that's why, my mistake.

>>64237206
Well, the conclusion is sound, and criteria matches the post entirely.

Unlawful combatants armed with explosives of unknown source tried to blow up one side's minefield on orders of another side without notice or permission.

>>64237163
Another transparently russian post, yeah we already know you subhumans think everything in Ukraine is a target, your behaviour belies any attempted lie otherwise

>>64237220
Doesn't Ukraine constantly attack civilian targets in Russia's rear?

>>64235203
>>64235311
why do russians look so... off?

>>64237217
>Well, the conclusion is sound, and criteria matches the post entirely
I can't imagine being this retarded

>>64237240
Well the mark of a high IQ is ability to empathize - understand how another person thinks. Unlike you, I CAN imagine how you must struggle.

>>64237248
multiple people have explained multiple times why you're wrong and retarded. it's also funny how you're crying about your detractors supposedly lacking enpathy while you continue to defend the intentional killing of civilians, I'd say your IQ must be very low if you lack the self awareness to see the issue with that

>>64237270
Explained? That's funny. You can't refute any of my points, you just repeat the same nonsense again and again.

Do you honestly believe that unlawful combatants blowing your materiel up with explosives are somehow protected by some sort of law?

>>64237196
Funniest shit about that is that his "deliberations" are completely irrelevant to russian motives for that strike. They've detected a group of vans, identified them as "UAV crew" and sent the missile there.


> No one asked the owners if it was or wasnt relevant to their military operations. No attempt was made to ask. Permission is required, otherwise we're looking at clause 3 - actor intends to help one party and harm another.
> A military operation of placing minefields can be adversely affected by the act of destroying the mines. This is specified in point 1.
Also this reasoning kinda "justifies" double-tapping, if you go along little further, look:
"A military operation of missile strike can be adversely affected by the act of firefighting and damage control. No one asked the owners of a missile if prevention of further damage was or was not relevant to their military operations. No attempt was made to ask. Permission is required, otherwise we're looking at clause 3 - actor intends to help one party and harm another. Send another fucking missile, firefighters and rescuers are clearly enemy combatants harming us!"

>>64237240
ziggers aren't exactly capable of critical thinking

>>64237278
>Do you honestly believe that unlawful combatants blowing your materiel up with explosives are somehow protected by some sort of law?
they are not unlawful combatants, they are civilians
they are no longer russia's mines. they gave them up when they retreated years ago

>>64237299
>they are no longer russia's mines. they gave them up when they retreated years ago
Russians obviously disagreed
>they are not unlawful combatants, they are civilians
Arming themselves with explosives and then trying to blow up a minefield, for the benefit of one of the sides, makes them unlawful combatants by law.

>>64237220
War has been going on since the dawn of man faggot. Not once has the grind stopped because women, children, non-combatants, elderly, or limp wristed faggots got killed or tortured. That's war. Wars in medieval Europe annihilated 50% of the entire population of an area, wars in bronze age northern Europe annihilated and replaced the populations of an area. Modern warfare is a tea party where you can remotely dismember some man you never met that looks just like you on some shithole battlefield because of some flag or richfags profit off of it. The cartels half the world over do worse to people over less. 500 years ago you were face to face swinging polearms and spears into their guts and even minor injury led to a grueling death by infection. War doesn't give a fuck about your flag or what side you are on or aren't on. The ukraine war is a fuck europeans kind of war.

>>64237306
>Arming themselves with explosives and then trying to blow up a minefield, for the benefit of one of the sides, makes them unlawful combatants by law.
no it doesn't you gigatard it's really amazing how you can fail so many times to read and extremely straightforward legal document and still misinterpret it when it's further spelled out for you

>>64237306
jesus dude I bet you struggle with the breakfast question too

>>64237339
>>64237330
Nothing is misinterpreted, you are just unwilling to accept that they weren't on a humanitarian mission. They were armed and engaging a minefield with explosives.

If they didn't want to be treated like unlawful armed combatants, they should've waited for the conflict to end, or sought agreement from both sides.

>>64237376
>They were armed
no they weren't.
>engaging a minefield with explosives.
they were cleaning up trash that russia left behind when they retreated years ago so civilians can return to their land
>If they didn't want to be treated like unlawful armed combatants, they should've waited for the conflict to end, or sought agreement from both sides.
russia should just stop targeting civilians instead.

>>64237388
>no they weren't.
Explosives are arms. You can't demine without explosives. There's no tool in the world that lets you safely remove a mine and throw it into a bag. You blow it up with explosives to remove it. They were armed unlawful combatants.

>>64237388
Even if they were civilian children in a playground. That's just another day of war. An average of 13 ukrainian civilians are killed every day since the start of the war. Which is actually a pretty low number compared to US wars (Iraq war average was 30 dead civies a day using the lowest possible estimates).

>>64237401
>Explosives are arms.
no, they arent. they can be used in arms but they can also be used for lawful purposes. you might as well argue that it's okay to kill construction workers because they have hammers

>>64237411
>Explosives aren't arms
/k/ - Weapons

>>64237411
Mines are arms. Demining ops *during* wartime is a military activity.

>>64237416
>ai overview
jesus christ you're dumb
>>64237418
>Mines are arms
yes
>Demining ops *during* wartime is a military activity.
not when it's being performed far from the front lines for humanitarian purposes