Thread 64239683

>goes up against the best AD money can buy
>goes undetected

>>64239683 (OP)
1. monkey model AD.
2. untrained crews.
3. I really don't care, I get paid for my shit opinions.

We already have thread for this up
>>64238352

>>64241345
What is this, an F-35 for ants?

>>64241349
This is the air thread, they can talk about the ground there

>>64239683 (OP)
Nothing against the f35 but they pretty clearly were not even trying for a shoot down
This was all pre arranged

>>64239683 (OP)
Does Western AD fail to detect it as well?

>>64239683 (OP)

Khaleejis haven't displayed military competence in a literal century in spite of technology marching on, what else is new?

>>64241401
This thread is terrible please don't stop posting shrimple memes I like them

>>64241758
nta but it's over

>>64241397
I'd be willing to wager the top tier American stuff can but that's about it

>>64241784
With my limited knowledge, I'd say only the SPY-6 in a 3d Aegis network could reliably track and obtain lock on an F-35 from over 30 miles away.

Stop the shrimpling

>>64241851
No

>>64239761
>>64241361
>>64241369
>>64241401
>>64241781
>>64241965
still waiting for something something load of carp

What happened?

>>64242044
Qatar building where hamas was staying in got bombed by Israel. Qatar fields Patriot and THAAD but it's more than likely they were working together with Israel.

>>64242044
we're pondering the shrimp, jerry

>>64242044
Israel bombed Hamas in Qatar, but Qatar probably wanted it to happen because having terrorist in your country is a liability

>>64239683 (OP)
I don't get it.

>>64242081
yah no
and the dogshit israeli vocabulary of calling everything and everyone a 'terrorist' ship sailed 2 years ago after watching scumbag idf behavior in Gaza

>>64241397
Actually, yes. There was a case about a year ago where the pilot accidentally ejected from an F-35 and the plane kept flying. We actually had no idea where the F-35 was until someone reported a crashed jet.

>>64244421
>yah no
There's literally no way this strike happened without joint approval from Qatar and the US.

>>64244458
I wonder how much of that was just how amazing the stealth tech was vs. our military actually picked it up but ultimately decided to not say so in order to protect full capabilities or to play to the international optics that our F-35 is so good, even our own detection system had trouble.

>>64248923
Qatar was told ahead of time to let this happen. Simple as.

>>64248923
If anything, this damaged the reputation of US gear. Most of the Global South can be convinced that all American shit is backdoored now.

>>64248946
No they can't. This incident either shows that the f-35 is invisible, or that Qatar was told to stand down and act like they got hit out of the blue after the fact. There's literally two possible options here.

>f-35 is invisible and Israel is insanely bold
>f-35 is not invisible and this was just a staged event to kill off the last leaders of Hamas.

Pick one.

>>64248958
Option 3: F-35 not quite invisible, but enough to exploit confusion. By the time somebody got on the line with the IAF to ask why there were F-35s in Qatari airspace, the missiles had already landed.

>>64248946
>Global south
kek

>>64248946
>global water boiling union being able to buy f35s
lol, lmao even

>>64248946
who cares about what they think lmao

>>64248943
And the evidence for this is...?

>>64239761
Well at least you're honest

>>64249777
Occam's Razor, obviously. The affirmative evidence is profusely stronger that the negative evidence. Look at what you know of Qatar's AA systems and the f-35. Look at the response from the US and Qatar. This was a corroborated conspiracy.

>>64248958
>>64249558
Option 4: Qatar was told to stand down AND the F-35 is undetectable.

>>64249951
>Look at what you know of Qatar's AA systems and the f-35 See>>64244458
Qatar is using American Made systems that couldn't find an F-35. The simplest answer is that Qatar didn't see the F-35.

I'm very happy my eurocuck country The Netherlands invested a lot to get this plane

>>64250035
I doubt they had much military radar coverage in bumfuck South Carolina though. I think Qatar was tipped off or forced to stand down.

>>64250048
The F-35 crashed about two dozen miles from a US Airforce base. Are you saying that an AIRBASE doesn't have radars?

>>64250056
He's probably saying that they typically rely on transponders to keep tabs on the f-35 within the US. No need to put the anti stealth radar there, or maybe they just don't use it for opsec reasons.

>>64250046
we gaaan

>>64250056
They wouldn't be actively searching for stealth craft 24/7 and also the fact that they didn't know about his ejection till he called 911 means they weren't looking for it until 10 minutes after.

>>64250082
>>64250173
There's also valid opsec reasons that they wouldn't disclose it even if they were tracking it, since it could be used to infer information about the capabilities of either the aircraft or the radar that picked it up.

>>64250082
That assumes the US even has anti-stealth radar. It's pretty clear we're depending on EODAS and IRST to counter stealth radar than some kind of fancy radar.

>>64250177
I think it's plausible the US would have been tracking it simply because I assume losing the entire canopy from the ejection seat would have a not insignificant effect on RCS. I doubt they made the inside of the cabin stealth too.

>>64250056
Yes. A CONUS Air Force base is not going to have continually active air defense radar.

>>64248946
>now
>>64248958
>No they can't
They've been fuckin convinced of it BEFORE this with barely any proof you idiots.
See >>64249610

>>64250818
And didn't have one that could be turned on?

What the fuck did I sleep through?

>>64250872
Not in a relevant timeframe, no.

>>64250889
Just 4chan being 4chan.

>>64250454
It doesn't matter if the cabin is or isn't stealth if the plane isn't facing the radar.

>>64250454
Anon the plane was not approaching a hostile area with all the radars in front of it, it was over friendly territory with radars searching for it all over the place and they had a good idea of approximately where it could possibly be because it's not like the pilot was trying to hide or anything.
Plus AWACS exist. If you don't think they had at least one helping with the search I dunno what to tell you.

>>64239683 (OP)
it never went against the best ad

>>64249951
Except it pretty clear the US barely had any advance notice. It's extremely doubtful that Quatar got any. Occams razor is the opposite. Quatar bases much of its international image on neutrality.

>>64250056
>Are you saying that an AIRBASE doesn't have radars?
It's an airbase, not a radarbase.

>>64250082
>He's probably saying that they typically rely on transponders to keep tabs on the f-35 within the US.
The transponder was off due to some kind of malfunction from my understanding.

>>64251535
Oh, a misquote. How will I recover from this? It was for >>64251413

>>64249558
Qatar is also pretty small, like 120 miles x 50 miles, so jet fighters would only be in Qatari airspace for like, 5 minutes.

>>64251544
Stop saying Quatar while trying to argue about Qatar.

>>64252723
>Entire Qatar AD department simultaneously takes a smoke break
>Comes back to see Hamas hideout a smoldering crater.