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Anonymous No.64460757 [Report] >>64460942 >>64460955 >>64460963 >>64460982 >>64461029 >>64461044 >>64461051 >>64461075 >>64461912 >>64462171 >>64462272 >>64462401 >>64463339 >>64465344 >>64469244
>A lome Tiger rushing in head First with no tactics or strategy or support could kill 15 allied tanks and 15 more vehicle in 15 minutes
Anonymous No.64460863 [Report] >>64461779
then why did they lose?
Anonymous No.64460942 [Report] >>64461624
>>64460757 (OP)
This guy was turned into the first German astronaut by a Firefly not long afterwards.
Anonymous No.64460955 [Report] >>64462664 >>64473547
>>64460757 (OP)
People still believe this shit. It's like a fairy tale for them.
Heinz Schicklegruber No.64460963 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
Buying gf, and gold teeth. Buying gf with gold teeth. Buying panzer with gold teeth.
Anonymous No.64460965 [Report] >>64460979 >>64460983 >>64461150 >>64461675 >>64462227 >>64462465 >>64462645 >>64463279 >>64463407 >>64463637 >>64463666 >>64463773 >>64463803 >>64463836 >>64471572
Why do people lionize a nation and a system that got its ass whooped? Why do weirdos love these literal losers? Is it just the aesthetic?
Anonymous No.64460979 [Report] >>64463407
>>64460965
They attatch themselves to these myths in the hope that they too, can really show everyone how it's done.

Of course these midwits don't have the perserverance needed to attain the skills in the first place and then move on to shitting up every discourse they can worm themselves into (podcasts are a great example of this).
Anonymous No.64460982 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
You forget the part two of the battle where he pretty much gets everyone around him completely wiped out nullifying any gains he made.
Anonymous No.64460983 [Report] >>64460999 >>64461026 >>64461054 >>64461650 >>64462630 >>64462668
>>64460965
>killed the enemy like 3:1 on the offense and even more on the defense losing solely due to numbers
>everyone shamelessly copies their military doctrine and technology post war
>durr why do people think they were good??
Anonymous No.64460999 [Report] >>64463804
>>64460983
>Lost a war to American production
kek, some winners you have there
Anonymous No.64461006 [Report] >>64466078
Even a defensive line of 6-pdr guns hidden in the bocage could stop the Tigers.
The plan to overrun the landing beaches with armored troops in Sicily, Anzio, and Normandy ended in a dismal failure.
Anonymous No.64461026 [Report]
>>64460983
>lead a war of racial supremacy to prove your race is the most supreme
>lose
So, why do people think they were good?
Anonymous No.64461029 [Report] >>64461099
>>64460757 (OP)
>stumble headfirst into the allies
>catch them by surprise
>leave
>do nothing for 2 months
>try to do it again, intentionally this time
>he gets ambushed instead
>dies horribly
Was this all part of his master plan?
Anonymous No.64461044 [Report] >>64461073 >>64461095 >>64464095
>>64460757 (OP)
I was watching some german propaganda footage about their telling of the Battle of Villers-Bocage, and I have to wonder what they mean by heavy and very heavy tanks.
Anonymous No.64461051 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
>tries rushing again
>gets unceremoniously killed by a 17-pdr
Anonymous No.64461054 [Report]
>>64460983
>killed the enemy like 3:1 on the offense and even more on the defense losing solely due to numbers
KIA between germans and western allies was 1:1
but counting captured and WIA, then its 3:1 in favor of the allies despite the germans defending

>everyone shamelessly copies their military doctrine and technology post war
most countries took bits and pieces from the germans, but the germans in turn took from everyone else
but by and large, post-war development was largely based off their own experiences
US doctrine evolved from US doctrine
Anonymous No.64461061 [Report] >>64461069 >>64461073 >>64461085 >>64461095 >>64461151 >>64461692 >>64464169 >>64465248 >>64468292
Germans were playing with balistic missiles while the rest were still Flying props.
America Just had Better pencil pushers, but not Better soldiers, generals or engineers
Anonymous No.64461069 [Report]
>>64461061
Right, and how are wars won exactly?
Anonymous No.64461073 [Report]
>>64461044
Cromwell es very heavy tank...
>>64461061
>not better soldiers
false
>not better generals
false
>not better engineers
false
Anonymous No.64461075 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
>slava deutchl-ACK!
Anonymous No.64461082 [Report]
>kills your tiger ''''ace'''' when he tries his retarded luck strategy again
also, kills for tanks for germutts were counted by squad kek
Anonymous No.64461085 [Report]
>>64461061
>while the rest were still Flying props.
the US and british also had jets
they just never felt the need to deploy them in large number because they were already winning the war and were mostly focused on testing them rather than rushing them out

>or engineers
is just a flat out lie, the US had some of the most advanced miniaturization efforts of the entire war
culminating in the B-29s fire director computer that allowed each gunner in the bomber to automatically control 2 turrets each
Anonymous No.64461095 [Report]
>>64461044
Identification was never consistent and our post war understanding of tanks is different. To add to it the various nations all had different understandings as well. Never mind the fact that people doing films aren't always educated on what they're filming or talking about. Since it's a propaganda puff piece you just assume they're talking out the ass
>>64461061
Retarded take, but okay
Anonymous No.64461099 [Report] >>64461624
>>64461029
His master plan was to become the first kraut to reach space!
Anonymous No.64461150 [Report]
>>64460965
There were good parts. Doesn't change the overwhelming bad and stupid, but they genuinely had many positives.
Then fucked up a lot.
Anonymous No.64461151 [Report]
>>64461061
>German Wonder Weapon: A missile that didn’t do anything in the grand scheme of things
American Wonder Weapon: Unleashing the power of the Sun and heralding the modern age
Anonymous No.64461624 [Report] >>64463351
>>64461099
>>64460942
How many times are you gonna try to make this joke?
It’s not even like you’re the first person to make it
Anonymous No.64461650 [Report]
>>64460983
Auftragstaktik was born in WWI. The foundation of Wehrmacht was laid in the 20s with von Seeckt's military leadership. Most of German generals were from old Prussian officer dynasties and either didn't care about or didn't want any of the Nazi shit that incels today like to jack off to
Anonymous No.64461675 [Report] >>64462451 >>64463651
>>64460965

I mean, people still jerk off to the US Military after Vietnam and GWOT ended in defeat. Even the Soviets' spectacular failure in Afghanistan that wound up causing the collapse of their entire empire has been lionized by some as having been a lost cause that could have prevented things like 9/11.
Anonymous No.64461692 [Report] >>64461704
>>64461061
>America Just had Better pencil pushers, but not Better soldiers, generals or engineers
Anonymous No.64461704 [Report]
>>64461692
The first atomic bombs were purely fission whereas the sun is a fusion
Anonymous No.64461779 [Report]
>>64460863
the allies brought 16 tanks to the fight
Anonymous No.64461912 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
Soviet heavy tanks during Barbarossa had more impressive achievements and it was still part of huge clusterfuck for Red Army
Anonymous No.64462127 [Report] >>64462133 >>64462150
Y'know if I were some kind of retard with delusions of grandeur I would sink massive resources into developing a handful of technology demonstrators into a small quantity of weapons with propaganda value but no actual impact on the outcome of the war.

If I was actually focused on winning the war, I would probably use my existing technology to make a piston engine that could reliably produced +2000hp, a viable strategic bomber (which Germany utterly failed at), the proximity fuse (which Germany tried and failed to do), the cavity magnetron, bomb sights that actually worked, logistics that didn't depend on horses, a tank that could be built in a car factory and shipped overseas and function flawlessly without needing repairs, night vision, and a bomb that could wipe out an entire city (which the Germans never even got close to).

You can stroke yourself thinking about how cool the handful of bullshit irrelevant propaganda weapons were, doesn't change the fact that American technology was far superior from a strategic standpoint and made a bigger impact. They didn't have to ship Tigers across the Atlantic and if they did the pieces of shit would have broken down in the first week.
Anonymous No.64462133 [Report]
>>64462127
>logistics that didn't depend on horses
Turns out that's a lot harder than we thought...
Anonymous No.64462150 [Report] >>64462205
>>64462127
>night vision,
Google vampyr
Anonymous No.64462171 [Report] >>64463452
>>64460757 (OP)
The Germans never once had a theatre wide operational success against American troops. On average, they were inferior in virtually every possible way. Worse training, worse logistics, worse commanders, and on average, lower quality weapons.

Oh you say, I've shot down a handful of your bombers with my new jet plane wunder waffle.

Nice job. Here, have 1,000 Mustangs that will outnumber them 10:1 and cuck them when they're trying to take off and land at their highly vulnerable airfields. Also we rotate our pilots so that our best people don't get killed, what a concept.

Oh you say, we've mildly inconvenienced several Londoners on their way to the tube with our new ballistic wunderwaffe with amazing CEP of tens of kilometers.

That's nice Germany. You see that smoking crater over there? That used to be Dresden. That one over there used to be Cologne. We had the glowing brain genius move of putting four engines on a bomber. One of them carries more than triple the payload and they can actually see what they're aiming at, and we didn't even bankrupt ourselves doing it.

>Be kraut
>Die

Lel
Anonymous No.64462205 [Report] >>64463364
>>64462150
It was around the same time as the American Sniperscope/Snooperscope night vision. The major difference was that while there isn't an single recorded instance of Vampyr actually being used in combat because it was incredibly flimsy, Sniperscope was actively deployed to the Pacific theater and actually worked.
Anonymous No.64462227 [Report]
>>64460965
>Why do people lionize a nation and a system that got its ass whooped?
It's because the History channel portrays German technology and tactics like pic related
Anonymous No.64462272 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
>teleports behind you
Anonymous No.64462401 [Report] >>64462423
>>64460757 (OP)
>64460983
6446099
>64461029
>64461044
>64461061
>64461069
>64461073
>64461082
>64461099
>64461151
>64461650
>64461692
>64462127
>64462133
>64462150
>64462227
most nazis were extremely cowardly backstabbers. Very few died with dignity or didn't rat out their comrades for a better deal. Even those who later killed themselves like Goring and Himmler backstabbed Hitler hard and tried to strike a better deal with the Allies in exchange. Keep in mind that the star of the SS and "Hitler's favorite commando" Otto Skorzeny became a Mossad hitman and killed escaped Nazis for the Israeli regime.

Another fun fact: Of the 16 million German men who served in the Wehrmacht and SS in WW2 12 million surrendered and Germany never had a relevant post-occupation resistance movement of any kind when even places like Ethiopia and Albania managed to have one

The only other occupied state with this level of subservience was Japan, but that at least had their deified Emperor tell them to stand down. Hitler meanwhile told the Germans to fight to the last, and they all ignored it and collaborated with their occupiers to the fullest extent possible

does this television show and/or film accurately portray this?
Anonymous No.64462423 [Report]
>>64462401
I think by the end most of them realized that what they had been fighting for and that Hitler himself, was massive failure.
There's no reason to not surrender at that point.
Anonymous No.64462445 [Report] >>64462457 >>64462467
Anonymous No.64462451 [Report] >>64463571
>>64461675
GWOT wasn't a failure though
Anonymous No.64462457 [Report]
>>64462445
Damn seething for no reason lmao. Kind of weird you have that saved on your device.
Anonymous No.64462465 [Report]
>>64460965
It's a bomb aesthetic
Anonymous No.64462467 [Report]
>>64462445
Mä häpeän sua
Anonymous No.64462630 [Report]
>>64460983
>Bro, the Germans were like wolfenstein
So why is it the feats of every other country is ignored? Most of the shit the Germans worked on were also designed independently by other powers during the war.
Anonymous No.64462645 [Report]
>>64460965

Neonazis.
Anonymous No.64462664 [Report] >>64462692
>>64460955
>People still believe this shit. It's like a fairy tale for them.
If it were a fairy tale to them, they would NOT believe it, you absolute fucking retard.
Anonymous No.64462668 [Report]
>>64460983
In 711 7,000 Moors conquered and crushed the entire Germanic Visigothic kingdom while outnumbered 100000:1 on the offense.

Why aren't you worshipping Moroccans?
Anonymous No.64462692 [Report]
>>64462664
Children believe fairytales and that's what you are, a child. One who has played too many map painters.
Anonymous No.64463279 [Report] >>64463318
>>64460965
Because they look cool and became a modern day cultural robin hood of sorts. In simpler terms, it makes libtards seethe.
Anonymous No.64463318 [Report] >>64463327
>>64463279
>In simpler terms, it makes libtards seethe.
I hate the way American politics has devolved into this retarded contrarian shit.
Anonymous No.64463327 [Report]
>>64463318
It's not politics so much as culture. Read nigga, read. Nazi shit is what satanic shit was 50 years ago.
Anonymous No.64463339 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
>KR*UT WORSHIP
Anonymous No.64463351 [Report] >>64463365
>>64461624
Because it hasn't stopped being funny or making you seethe like the cuck you are.
Anonymous No.64463364 [Report]
>>64462205

Sounds like a problem with the weapons platform desu, ZF4 sights were uncommon on StG 44 despite being specifically designed to be compatible on it for the same reason (the sights would lose their zero when fired on full-auto)
Anonymous No.64463365 [Report]
>>64463351
You know this is just a bait thread, right?
Anonymous No.64463407 [Report] >>64463804
>>64460965
>>64460979
Name-calling and projecting tankie tranny pinkos from lefty/pol/ groomcords at it again
Anonymous No.64463452 [Report] >>64463468
>>64462171
>Also we rotate our pilots so that our best people don't get killed, what a concept
>We had the glowing brain genius move of putting four engines on a bomber.
I really hate that the myriad of different reasons Germany had different practices, different system priorities and different faults can apparently only be discussed in a dickwaving contest
Anonymous No.64463468 [Report] >>64463487
>>64463452
A lot of people politicize the conversation for different reasons unfortunately. Talking about things objectively and unemotionally is the realm of autists.
Anonymous No.64463487 [Report] >>64463524
>>64463468
>realm of autists
I'm sorry, I thought I was on 4chan
Anonymous No.64463524 [Report] >>64463573 >>64463580
>>64463487
Unfortunately, as this site has grown in popularity we've had an increasing number of non autists taking up residence. Also a lot of liberal types who think they can basically play the same sort of cultural activist/trickster role that we have, by coming here and spamming bbc and things of the like.
Anonymous No.64463571 [Report] >>64463667
>>64462451
>GWOT wasn't a failure though
Anonymous No.64463573 [Report]
>>64463524
The BBC spam is courtesy of our local service.
Incurable, I'm afraid
Anonymous No.64463580 [Report]
>>64463524
The BBC spam is courtesy of our local serb.
Incurable, I'm afraid
Anonymous No.64463637 [Report]
>>64460965
America and all first world countries have taken virtually all cutting edge military ideas from Germany since the seven years war. You can go as far back as that time and see British army commanders like Robert Craufurd boasting that they could discipline their men in a Prussian manner. We wouldn't have NCO corps, conscription, low level officer initiative, and hell, even public schooling, without them.
Anonymous No.64463651 [Report]
>>64461675
LOL west taiwan got beat back by Vietnam twice. How much shame doe west taiwan feel?
Anonymous No.64463658 [Report]
>not even mad at wehraboos or unironic nazis or even chuds that meme aryan black moon stuff
>just notice and mention why do you guys always spam black and white low quality wehrmatch marching all the time.
>cause a giant civil war jannies, mods,regulars
>get banned
>everyone fighting calling each other feds and kikes etc.

man i wasnt even intending to piss anyone off.
Anonymous No.64463666 [Report]
>>64460965
They are fascists that like to pretend fascism produces results when in reality it blames internal groups for all their problems and when those groups are gone and the problems remain they blame external groups and start wars.
If fascists actually wanted results they wouldn't vilify science driving a scientific exodus.
Anonymous No.64463667 [Report]
>>64463571
Global
War
On
Terror
Can you faggots read?
Anonymous No.64463773 [Report]
>>64460965
To give a semi-serious answer:
>massive, fundamental change
>deliberate aesthetic focus
>resounding early victories
>hard-fought ultimate defeat
>influential technical and theoretical developments
>self-mythologisation "lost cause"
>"the enemy of my enemy is my friend"
>ideological sympathies
and so on and so on
Anonymous No.64463803 [Report]
>>64460965
The world would be in a better place if Germany won.
Anonymous No.64463804 [Report]
>>64463407
Yup and here they are comparing them mask off saying 'america bad': >>64460999
real original stuff. they're just compelled to lash out at things they dont understand.
Anonymous No.64463836 [Report]
>>64460965
It's the same reason why people worship the Soviet Union/Communism because they genuinely believe it could have worked if other decisions or leaders were in charge, while ignoring the numerous structural problems that plagued both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union that caused the collapse of both.
Anonymous No.64464095 [Report]
>>64461044
>ES IST EIN SCHWERER PANZERKAMPFWAGEN M6A2E1 MIT 10,5CM KWK T5E1 L/65 IN TURM NEUER ART!
>LAUFEN SIE!
Anonymous No.64464123 [Report]
This thread will get baleeted but I appreciated it. Several good points, both lefty and righty. Feels like oldpol.
Anonymous No.64464169 [Report]
>>64461061
>Germans were playing with balistic missiles
Nice guidance system you got there, Heinrich. Did you steal your nephew's toy top to make it? What's its CEP in fractions of a London? Do you regret spending a billion dollars in 1945 money on a super weapon whose biggest """accomplishment""" was killing 567 Belgian movie goers? Probably not, since if you had spent it on almost anything else your 1000 Year Reich might have lasted 12 1/2 years instead of only 12 and you would have had to sit through a few lectures on Jüdische Physik courtesy of the Army Air Forces before your country got quartered like an overly-ambitious vassal.
Anonymous No.64465248 [Report]
>>64461061
The Germans based their rocket design on American scientist Goddard's liquid fueled rockets.
Anonymous No.64465253 [Report]
And the Allies always had 16 of each according to the same Germans blah blah blah.
Anonymous No.64465344 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
>A lome Char B1 rushing in head First with no tactics or strategy or support could kill 13 Axis tanks and 2 anti-tank guns while getting shot 140 times
>Survives
Sorry wherbros. This singular anecdote proves that the Frog tanks were the superior ones.
Anonymous No.64466078 [Report] >>64466540
>>64461006
Sicilia had no resistance, jew retard..
Anonymous No.64466540 [Report]
>>64466078
>german and Italians are so pitiful they couldn't put up anything approaching resistance
sad!
Anonymous No.64468292 [Report]
>>64461061
Robert Goddard invented liquid fueled rockets that the V-2 was based in. He put gyroscopes in them.
Anonymous No.64469244 [Report]
>>64460757 (OP)
Soviet Mongoloid Central Asian and Buryat Mongol Soviet Red Army soldiers then gang raped and impregnated millions of white German women in 1945.
Anonymous No.64470752 [Report]
Anonymous No.64471522 [Report] >>64471524 >>64471526 >>64471532 >>64471537 >>64471540 >>64471541
Did you know Moroccan Goumier rapebabies still live in Austria from World War II?

German American in the NATO affiliate Atlantic Council admitting Soviets raped all his aunts.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/thinking-global/berlin-1961-the-legacy-of-soviet-rape-in-germany/

>The term Marocchinate was literally invented because of Moroccan Goumier raped across Italy, Austria and West Germany.

The Austrian Volralberg museum website admits their town is filled with Goumier Moroccan rapebabies.

In Voralberg, Austria you can find the Marrakonerkinder descended from Moroccan soldiers and Austrian women.

https://www.vorarlbergmuseum.at/veranstaltungen/kalender/detail/die-tabu-kinder-marokkanerkinder-in-vorarlberg/

https://www.gaismair-gesellschaft.at/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2009_H._LECHHAB_Marokkanische_Besatzungskinder_in_Vorarlberg_und_Tirol_nach_1945.pdf

https://www.vol.at/diskriminiert-bis-zum-heutigen-tag-vorarlberger-kinder-von-marokkanern/5365358

Marokkanische Soldaten 1945 in Bregenz, Foto: Stadtarchiv Bregenz
Die Tabu-Kinder. „Marokkanerkinder“ in Vorarlberg
Fr, 10. Februar 2023, 17.00 – 18.00 Uhr
freitags um 5 – Landesgeschichte im Gespräch
Über dieses Thema wurde lange getuschelt, meistens einfach nur geschwiegen hat: Die französische Armee, die 1945 Vorarlberg von der NS-Herrschaft befreite und dann mehrere Jahre lang besetzte, bestand unter anderem aus marokkanischen Soldaten. Sie hinterließen ein über viele Jahrzehnte tabuisiertes Erbe: Nachkommen mit ungewohnt dunkler Hautfarbe. Die Autorin Ingrid Maria Kloser hat diesem Tabu eine Erzählung gewidmet, die Historikerin Renate Huber schildert den Umgang mit den Besatzern.
Anonymous No.64471524 [Report] >>64471526 >>64471532 >>64471537 >>64471540 >>64471541
>>64471522
>Germany, 1945
>The 1st, 2nd, and 4th Groups of Moroccan Tabors fought in the final operations to overrun southwestern Germany in 1945.[23] The 1st Group fought through the Siegfried Line in the Bienwald from 20 to 25 March 1945. In April 1945, the 1st and 4th Groups took part in the fighting to seize Pforzheim. During the last weeks of the war, the 2nd Group fought in the Black Forest and pushed southeast to Germany's Austrian border. During the same period, the 1st and 4th Groups advanced with other French forces on Stuttgart and Tübingen.

>The 3rd (3e Tabor Marocain) occupied an area between Stuttgart and Tübingen from about April 20, 1945. When they got to Waldenbuch, they entered every house and raped and plundered. Some women were badly injured. Pastor Pfäfflin managed to get them to the Hospital in Tübingen. The pastor wrote a protest note to the International Red Cross. After the total surrender of Germany on 8 May 1945, a military government was established in Stuttgart.
Anonymous No.64471526 [Report] >>64471532 >>64471537 >>64471540 >>64471541 >>64471761
>>64471522
>>64471524
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/content-series/thinking-global/berlin-1961-the-legacy-of-soviet-rape-in-germany/
May 8, 2011

Berlin 1961: The Legacy of Soviet Rape in Germany
By Frederick Kempe

Berlin 1961: The Legacy of Soviet Rape in Germany
Berlin 1961 Frederick Kempe

I first visited four of my elderly East German aunts as a college student in the late 1970s, they were willing to discuss almost anything except the final days of World War II and the first days of Soviet military occupation. Only over time and in whispers, did one of my aunt’s share the story. She and her sisters, she said, had each suffered either rape or some other sexual abuse at the hands of troops that history recorded as their liberators and allies.

So when I began to reconstruct the atmosphere of Berlin in 1961, having chosen to illustrate it through vignettes of individuals throughout the book, I thought long about whether to include Marta Hiller’s own story of rape. Though the details were sensational, the story was sadly routine.

According to estimates extracted from hospital records, between 90,000 and 130,000 Berlin women had been raped during the last days of the war and the first days of Soviet rule – a soldiers’ expression of frustration and rage after a war in which some 20 million Soviets had died. Tens of thousands of others had fallen victim elsewhere in the Soviet zone. Hiller’s had expected her anonymously written book, “A Woman in Berlin,” to be welcomed after its publication in 1959 by a people who might want the world to know that they, too, had been the victims of war. Instead, Berliners responded either with hostility or silence.
Anonymous No.64471532 [Report] >>64471537 >>64471540
>>64471522
>>64471524
>>64471526
The world felt little sympathy for any pain inflicted on a German people who had brought the world so much suffering. And Berlin women, who had lived through the humiliation, had no desire to recall it. Berlin men found it too painful to be reminded of their failure to protect their wives and daughters. Hiller’s writing was too graphic for easy digestion:

>Suddenly his finger is on my mouth, stinking of horse and tobacco. I open my eyes. A stranger’s hands expertly pulling apart my jaws. Eye to eye. Then with great deliberation he drops a gob of gathered spit into my mouth.
>I’m numb. Not with disgust, only cold. My spine is frozen: icy, dizzy shivers around the back of my head. I feel myself gliding and falling, down, down through the pillows and the floorboards. So that’s what it means to sink into the ground.

Hillers would die at age ninety in 2001, never knowing that that her book would be republished and become a best-seller in several languages, including German, in 2003. It would be made into a major German movie in 2008, becoming a favorite of feminists everywhere.

Perhaps nothing could better capture the German attitude of 1961 toward their occupiers than Hillers’s book and Berliners’ aversion to reading it. The East German relationship to their Soviet military occupiers, who still numbered 400,000 to 500,000 by 1961, was a mixture of pity and dread, complacency and amnesia. Most East Germans had grown resigned to their seemingly permanent cohabitation.

Among the minority who hadn’t, many were fleeing as refugees.

Fred Kempe is president and CEO of the Atlantic Council. His latest book, Berlin 1961, will be available May 10. This blog series originally published by Reuters.
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>>64471522
>>64471524
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Anonymous No.64471541 [Report] >>64471545 >>64472776
>>64471522
>>64471524
>>64471526
>>64471537
>>64471540

Account of Mongol rape in Austria

Ivo of Narbonne said the Mongols did this to women in Neustat, Austria.

https://apholt.com/2020/06/08/accounts-of-the-mongols-in-the-medieval-record/

They abhorred the monstrous cruelty of the accomplices of the Antichrist,[11] and they heard the pitiful cries of Christians that were arising to God—Christians in the adjoining province who suddenly had been taken captive. Without consideration of class, fortune, sex, or age, they indiscriminately destroyed them all by various forms of torture. The leaders, along with their dinner guests and other lotus eaters,[12] fed on their corpses as though they were bread, leaving nothing for the vultures except bones. And it is a wonder, but the famished and gluttonous vultures, who abounded above in great numbers, did not deign to feed upon the remains. The old and deformed women they gave to the cannibals[13] (as they are known world-wide) as food, as if it were a daily ration. They did not eat the beautiful women [immediately]. Rather they suffocated them under a mass of rapists as they cried out and wailed. They raped virgins until they died, and then their breasts were cut off, which they kept for their leaders as delicacies, and they feasted on their virginal bodies in a more splendid manner.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/386985949_Ivo_of_Narbonne's_Account_of_a_Mongol_Attack_on_Austria_Fact_or_Fiction
Anonymous No.64471542 [Report]
Just gonna post some pictures to make the nazi cucks seethe
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>>64460965
>Is it just the aesthetic?
Yeah, unironically.
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What a stupid fucking thread.
it does not mater why the germans lost.
They LOST.
Debating over a lost game of chess is the acme of stupidity.
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>>64471573
When I was a kid I met an old vet who would ride the train frequently with me and told me out of nowhere one day that his squad didn't take prisoners, and that if the Germans immediately surrendered then they'd shoot them and make it quick, but if the Germans tried to fight it out before surrendering then they'd cut off their noses or ears before lynching them.
I was like seven years old at the time and even back then knowing nothing about the war I thought it was absolutely insane that this guy was cooly confessing to doing some heinous shit to a little kid.
>mfw
Anonymous No.64471761 [Report] >>64471763
>>64471526
Soviet Mongoloid Central Asian and Buryat Mongol Soviet Red Army soldiers then gang raped millions of white German women in 1945.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2002-09-24-0209240344-story.html

>On the day the Red Army arrived in central Berlin in April 1945, Magda Wieland took shelter in the cellar of her apartment house. The first Soviet soldier to find her was a 16-year-old Central Asian who raped her.

got it from here

https://twitter.com/teddyboylocsin/status/355987418161217539
Teodoro "Teddy Boy" Lopez Locsin Jr. GOLH (born November 15, 1948) is a Filipino politician, diplomat, lawyer, and former journalist serving as the Secretary of Foreign Affairs since October 2018. He was a member of the House of Representatives from 2001 to 2010, representing the 1st district of Makati and later served as the Philippine Ambassador to the United Nations from 2017 to 2018.[2] He was the host of the editorial segment titled "Teditorial" for ANC's nightly newscast The World Tonight.[3]
Anonymous No.64471763 [Report] >>64471769
>>64471761
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1101151-3/

Book: From the Horrors of World War II-- to a Great Love Story
By Edith V. Landis

Quote:
" The first Russian troops to fight in Berlin consisted mostly of Mongolians, who were very unkempt and sloppy. They had Asian features, and many of them wore ugly mustaches which hung down on the sides. "

The Battle of Berlin, 1945

The Fall of Berlin, 1945

Quote:
Looting eye witness to history.

"The next morning, we women proceeded to make ourselves look as unattractive as possible to the Soviets by smearing our faces with coal dust and covering our heads with old rags, our make-up for the Ivan. We huddled together in the central part of the basement, shaking with fear, while some peeked through the low basement windows to see what was happening on the Soviet-controlled street. We felt paralyzed by the sight of these husky Mongolians, looking wild and frightening. At the ruin across the street from us the first Soviet orders were posted, including a curfew. Suddenly there was a shattering noise outside. Horrified, we watched the Soviets demolish the corner grocery store and throw its contents, shelving and furniture out into the street. Urgently needed bags of flour, sugar and rice were split open and spilled their contents on the bare pavement, while Soviet soldiers stood guard with their rifles so that no one would dare to pick up any of the urgently needed food. This was just unbelievable. At night, a few desperate people tried to salvage some of the spilled food from the gutter. Hunger now became a major concern because our ration cards were worthless with no hope of any supplies.
Other sources:
Anonymous No.64471769 [Report] >>64471771
>>64471763
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2002-09-24-0209240344-story.html

On the day the Red Army arrived in central Berlin in April 1945, Magda Wieland took shelter in the cellar of her apartment house. The first Soviet soldier to find her was a 16-year-old Central Asian who raped her.

"I was completely alone," Wieland said. "It was horrible. He . . . was swooning with the idea that I would be his girlfriend. But I knew more soldiers would come

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t20726/
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>>64471769
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/berlin.htm

"The next morning, we women proceeded to make ourselves look as unattractive as possible to the Soviets by smearing our faces with coal dust and covering our heads with old rags, our make-up for the Ivan. We huddled together in the central part of the basement, shaking with fear, while some peeked through the low basement windows to see what was happening on the Soviet-controlled street. We felt paralyzed by the sight of these husky Mongolians, looking wild and frightening. At the ruin across the street from us the first Soviet orders were posted, including a curfew. Suddenly there was a shattering noise outside. Horrified, we watched the Soviets demolish the corner grocery store and throw its contents, shelving and furniture out into the street. Urgently needed bags of flour, sugar and rice were split open and spilled their contents on the bare pavement, while Soviet soldiers stood guard with their rifles so that no one would dare to pick up any of the urgently needed food. This was just unbelievable. At night, a few desperate people tried to salvage some of the spilled food from the gutter. Hunger now became a major concern because our ration cards were worthless with no hope of any supplies.

Lawson, Dorothea von Schwanenfluegel, Laughter Wasn't Rationed (1999); Ryan, Cornelius, The Last Battle (1966).
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why the random rape obsession
Anonymous No.64471777 [Report] >>64471782
>>64471771
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=3457387&postcount=6

The Many Faces of Defeat: The German People's Experience in 1945 by Edward N. Peterson.

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=8390557&postcount=107

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=12084534&postcount=34

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=7858374&postcount=8

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t20726/?postcount=5#post122352

The Many Faces of Defeat: The German People's Experience in 1945 by Edward N. Peterson.

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"The men had overpowered the daughter-in-law, whose husband was a prisoner in Russia. When the soldiers were asked why they did not go to the village where there were willing girls, one answered in disgust, "Willing women are unclean."
The mayor was told by the commander that several Mongol regiments were coming through their way east and would sweep women, children and cattle"

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"conquered the Germans in battle. They were a filthy, down at-the-heel, stunted lot for the most part, with a pronounced Mongolian element, a rabble rather than an army." In the old diplomatic quarter, "It was sad to see how the Russians had gone through room after room full of fine furniture and pictures with fire and the sword, or the bazooka and bayonet; they had shot holes in the Old Masters, ripped the stuffing out of French and Italian chairs and sofas of the 17th, 18th,"
"More simply put by a German woman, "The only time that Goebbels did not lie was when he told us about Russian behavior."
Anonymous No.64471782 [Report] >>64471788
>>64471777
>Records show that at least 100,000 women were raped in Berlin, and that 90 percent of the city's women contracted venereal diseases.


>The Soviet-German Syphilis Expedition was a joint Soviet and German expedition that took place in 1928. It comprised eight medical researchers from each country and its purpose was to investigate endemic syphilis in the Kul’skoe region of the Buryat-Mongolian Autonomous Republic in Siberia and to determine the efficacy of the anti-syphilis drug Salvarsan. The expedition concluded, contrary to expectations, that although affected by poor sanitation and lifestyle, the spread of syphilis in the area was caused primarily by sexual activity.
>The expedition provoked disputes as the Soviets and Germans had different motives for participating which was reflected in difficulties preparing the joint report of the expedition.[6]
>Previously, the cause of syphilis in the Buryat people was felt to be primarily "non-venereal", that is, not thought to be transmitted through sexual contact.[3][7] The Soviet researchers determined, contrary to expectations,[3] that in the case of the Buryats, the disease was mainly transmitted through sexual activity.[8] They did not discount the influence of poor sanitation and lifestyle, but with their methods on contact tracing, placed a greater onus on the spread of syphilis through sexual activity.[3] The sexual habits of the Buryats, beginning early in life, being casual and short term, were more significant. The researchers also took note of the economic and social conditions affecting Buryat society and saw potential for change. According to Francine Hirsch, "Both research groups portrayed the "Buryats as a 'primitive' people with a 'backward' culture who were in danger of extinction."[9]
Anonymous No.64471788 [Report] >>64471793
>>64471782
>Calls to avenge the Motherland, violated by the Wehrmacht's invasion, had given the idea that almost any cruelty would be allowed. Even many young women soldiers and medical staff in the Red Army did not appear to disapprove. "Our soldiers' behaviour towards Germans, particularly German women, is absolutely correct!" said a 21-year-old from Agranenko's reconnaissance detachment. A number seemed to find it amusing. Several German women recorded how Soviet servicewomen watched and laughed when they were raped. But some women were deeply shaken by what they witnessed in Germany. Natalya Gesse, a close friend of the scientist Andrei Sakharov, had observed the Red Army in action in 1945 as a Soviet war correspondent. "The Russian soldiers were raping every German female from eight to eighty," she recounted later. "It was an army of rapists."

>Drink of every variety, including dangerous chemicals seized from laboratories and workshops, was a major factor in the violence. It seems as if Soviet soldiers needed alcoholic courage to attack a woman. But then, all too often, they drank too much and, unable to complete the act, used the bottle instead with appalling effect. A number of victims were mutilated obscenely.

>The subject of the Red Army's mass rapes in Germany has been so repressed in Russia that even today veterans refuse to acknowledge what really happened. The handful prepared to speak openly, however, are totally unrepentant. "They all lifted their skirts for us and lay on the bed," said the leader of one tank company. He even went on to boast that "two million of our children were born" in Germany.
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>>64471788
>The capacity of Soviet officers to convince themselves that most of the victims were either happy with their fate, or at least accepted that it was their turn to suffer after what the Wehrmacht had done in Russia, is striking. "Our fellows were so sex-starved," a Soviet major told a British journalist at the time, "that they often raped old women of sixty, seventy or even eighty - much to these grandmothers' surprise, if not downright delight."

>One can only scratch at the surface of the psychological contradictions. When gang-raped women in Königsberg begged their attackers afterwards to put them out of their misery, the Red Army men appear to have felt insulted. "Russian soldiers do not shoot women," they replied. "Only German soldiers do that." The Red Army had managed to convince itself that because it had assumed the moral mission to liberate Europe from fascism it could behave entirely as it liked, both personally and politically.
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>>64471551
>source provided by Jordanes, who cites a description given by Priscus.[48][49]

>He was a man born into the world to shake the nations, the scourge of all lands, who in some way terrified all mankind by the dreadful rumors noised abroad concerning him. He was haughty in his walk, rolling his eyes hither and thither, so that the power of his proud spirit appeared in the movement of his body. He was indeed a lover of war, yet restrained in action, mighty in counsel, gracious to suppliants and lenient to those who were once received into his protection. Short of stature, with a broad chest and a large head; his eyes were small, his beard thin and sprinkled with grey; and he had a flat nose and swarthy skin, showing evidence of his origin.[40]:182–183

>Some scholars have suggested that these features are typically East Asian, because in combination they fit the physical type of people from Eastern Asia, so Attila's ancestors may have come from there.[49][50]
Anonymous No.64473547 [Report]
>>64460955
The circumstances of Michael Wittmann's death are well documented.
Anonymous No.64473684 [Report]
>3 days of imagespam and wall of text
Lmao
Anonymous No.64474750 [Report] >>64475855
You can cope all you want about "allied superiorit"
Germany in ww2 reshaped the way war was fought, and had k/d eatio of literal spafe marines
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>also, op is a straight male who has had sex
Anonymous No.64475855 [Report]
>>64474750
>fighting against an enemy who purged all their competent officers
>who were still in the process of truly industrializing