Thread 40021006

>qott: Let's revive AGPgen to what it was back in its glory days, with its crazy mix of reppers, manmoders, Autosapphoerotics and Meta attracted AGPs

>AGP questions and answers
>Thoughts and feelings / emotions
>Help, advice, guidance
>Be cozy and chill out

>What is AGP?
Autogynephilia, from Greek αὐτό- ("self"), γυνή ("woman") and φιλία ("love")
Broadly, arousal to the thought of being a woman. It can take many forms - being aroused at imagining or seeing yourself with a female body, dressing in clothes that make you appear feminine, acting in stereotypical "feminine" ways, or others.

>Isn't AGP just discredited pseudoscience?
No, you might be thinking of Blanchard's Typology, which includes the idea of AGP. Regardless of whether or not you agree with Blanchard's ideas, AGP is very real to the people who experience it.

>I'm AGP, does this mean I'm not trans?
No, you can be AGP and trans.

>Aren't you all just trannies in denial?
Some people with AGP will go on to transition, while others are content with incorporating it into their sex life or simply the occasional indulgence. It varies greatly in intensity. If AGP consumes a lot of your mental energy or causes you lots of distress, it is probably worth asking more questions.

Resources:

>Why Gender Matters, the Emerging Science of Sex Differences
https://ia802804.us.archive.org/30/items/LeonardSaxWhyGenderMatters/Leonard%20Sax%20-%20Why%20Gender%20Matters.pdf#page171

>The Gender Variant Phenomenon:
https://www.avitale.com/essays/a-developmental-review

i love my agp hrtitties

the thing that most intrigues me about AGP is how everyone experiences it differently. like for myself, it outcompetes my "heterosexuality" (lol) so I have no external attraction to females. i'm analloerotic with meta attraction to people with penises being the only thing that arouses me. it's crazy to me how some AGPs can still engage sexually with women and it coexists peacefully with their AGP

>>40021006 (OP)
that bench is dangerously too close to the right-of-way, someone could get hurt!

>>40021048
Nice
>>40021051
Oooh cool are you transitioned?
>>40021063
Hmm, we could make it safer

Does anyone remember tailcalled/surveyanon, when she did blanchardian research here? Shes so pretty now!

>>40021229
>Oooh cool are you transitioned?
yes, trooned at 25 & im 32 now, had FFS/BBL/BA/Orchi life is good actually. i was a late bloomer and didnt really begin growing any serious facial or body hair until my early-mid 20s, and then dysphoria got unbearably bad and i pretty much had to transition.

>>40021279
Hopefully you get a cute bf, or if you have one hopefully y'all stay together forever. I'm also meta attracted but not in a position to troon or even date men :(

aside from the horny aspect do you associate AGP with types of “fun”?
like sometimes something seems like it would be fun, but in an AGP way. maybe its just toxic masculinity but it feels like maybe something else is there and idk i wanted second opinions.

>>40021006 (OP)
being agp or agamp or aap is based but reminder to take your pills if you're dysphoric or this is taking up a lot of your mental/emotional space, retards, and don't give bl*nchoids a fucking inch with their disingenuous cult of personality shit

>>40021317
i hope so one day too. i don't currently have one. id need to find a guy with the "i want an angel with broken wings" type mentality, i'm currently the type of woman people just want to fuck but not date. it's mostly my own fault tho
>>40021568
like what do you mean? getting your nails done or something?

>>40021568
AGP is <<fun>> when you look like a woman especially, inspite of being p malebrained I've really gotten into fashion and makeup thanks to AGP, I feel that we AGPs sometimes enjoy femineity more than even HSTSs (esp when meta attracted)
>>40021581
Meh every AGP has to choose their own path, but we shld obviously not listen to GC and radfems who don't have our best interests at heart

>>40021649
of course we enjoy femininity more, HSTS use it as a means to an end to get straight dick, they dont genuinely enjoy it in the same way we do. looking like a woman can certainly be fun, just by itself. i usually wear like pajamas/sweat pants type outfits and i sometimes forget how fun it can be to be dolled up.

>>40021711
What I'm worried about is that in this particular political climate we'll be forced painfully back into the closet so as to speak. I fear that our enemies want us ugly, sad and constantly professing our guilt at being born males who reach for femineity

Just got to work and realized…hehe.. I forgot to change my little girl diaper…
Gonna be covered in girlpoopie all day

>>40021809
while that certainly appears to be their goal, i'm not really sure how effectively they'd be able to do that. i may be looking at this through the rose colored lens of being pretty+passing but i get more issues/discrimination for being perceived as female than for being trans. i do think if something like anti crossdressing laws came back, that could sort of catch everyone in its crosshairs. for example, if i wear mens clothing, i'll look like a crossdressing woman, so i wouldnt be able to do that, but if i wear womens clothes, and my trans identity is known, i cant do that either. but realistically, they cant even enforce order in a city of 4M people, much less a country with 340M so i think we're giving them too much credit by entertaining those fears.
>>40021828
get out, thats not AGP

>>40022004
I'm talking about basically launching a multi pronged attack on us, that's what I'm worried about. Banning puberty blockers so its harder to pass, ending insurance coverage for FFS, making "sex deception" illegal, turning normies against us by spreading a distorted version of blanchard etc

>>40022070
>Banning puberty blockers so its harder to pass
so, this is one of those things i actually agree with the right about. i genuinely dont think that minors should have access to medical transition. i see no harm or potential harm in offering social transition and resources to ease that process. the earliest age i could in good faith endorse medical transition would be 16.
>ending insurance coverage for FFS
the federal government has no say in what private insurers cover, this would only be banning it for plans paid for by taxpayers like medicare/medicaid
>making "sex deception" illegal
we will see how this works out for Texas, bill HB 3817 is attempting to do exactly that, but it seems very unlikely to come to law
>turning normies against us by spreading a distorted version of blanchard
lilly tino is doing a good enough job for us with that as it is

starting to pass-ish thanks to ffs but my body is really bricked up. getting surgery this year to hopefully make my body pass and then i'll be able to wear cute clothes and just agp my shit up inshallah my fellow ajeepeegees

btw does anyone remember the early days when the stealth passoid tranner made these threads? because she thought being straight and wanting to look cute made her agp? i felt so bad when she finally realized the truth about what agp is.

>>40022172
who was your FFS surgeon? What body work are you getting done?

HOLD ON…….Holddd onnnn
*SqueeEzes*
pfffffffffffff
*squirt squirt squirt*
ANOTHER TRANS GIRL POOPIE IS COMING!!!!!*furiously licks her paws*

GAHHHH *plops a big stinky poopie in her diaper*
Much better!

>>40022172
Emilia, but like 99% of the ppl on this borad would've fallen under the AGP label inside
>>40022156
It's just that I see sooo much hate online and that makes me sad, our ancestors dreamed of this but now ppl are forcing us to go back, literally one my relatives is an AGP/repper who died a sad death. I pray to mother Mary to protect us.

ooohhh fuck i just remembered there was a schizo tranny anon who got angrily obsessed with her too for some reason.

the schizo had gotten ffs but was also like tall and linebacker shouldered and so didn't pass. i was in some servers with her. last i heard she wanted to get a lobotomy or sudoku. then i never heard from her again.

>>40022229
Frenchie, kmpi?

>>40022239
frenchie was such a tortured soul, i remember her wanting an agp ethno-state, because that was they only way for agps to live peacefully; while also deciding every other day that she wasnt true agp, but just tocd.

>>40022239
no, wasn't either of those people. we would call her lobotanon on discord. i know who kmpi is. was frenchie the french anon with bad acne scarring?
lobotanon was upset about emilia being stealth for some reason? also i remember her talking about her retail coworkers being a little icked by her autistic tranniness.
>>40022199
don't want to say the ffs surgeon for privacy reasons. but a relatively well known one.
i'm planning on getting BA/BBL/rib remodeling this year

>>40022307
yea frenchie had the acne scarring

>>40022004
>>40022156
you are exactly why this general should go back to being dead
bootlicking anti-trans pro-gatekeeping piece of shit

>>40022364
*sniffs your butt.*
ooooohhh
*pops a big girly boner in her diaper*

>>40022224
yeah, emilia. i was in her server for a bit. even got to see her face reveal. i remember wanting to rope bc she was so pretty and well adjusted, lmao

>>40022224
actually so many of the trans pioneers were AGP: Lili Elbe, Christine Jorgensen, Dora Richter. I hope that sanity returns to the world, but unfortunately, while peoples lives continue to suck they need someone weaker to blame for it. Howd you know your relative was a repper?
>>40022307
lol no one will know who you are just by your FFS surgeon when anonposting, id understand if you were a tripfag but its okay, i respect that. i did the BA/BBL, didn't do ribs. I would if i had the money but it wouldnt even be my first priority. how much of a difference can it make?
>>40022364
i cant be anti trans, i am trans. also, im just one person in this gen, i realize that im not speaking for all trans people. its okay nona, we do not have to agree about everything. dont blame agpgen

>>40022617
>i cant be anti trans, i am trans
lol
>dont blame agpgen
but I am, specifically because dumbfucks like you drink the kool-aid, and it is impossible to escape that this concept and the surrounding "culture" are steeped in regressive boomer misogyny and outright TERFism

>>40022617
My relative was an unmarried man who had a gf but said being with her was too painful for him + wanted to cross dress

Yeah, I'm just so terrified by what ppl say about us, I'm a lapsed christian so I would hope that mary could be our symbol/patron.

>>40022415
Yeah, wonder what happened to all the old posters of the gen, where they are now?

>>40022642
i think it is completely unreasonable to expect a unanimous hivemind to occur within any community. individuals are allowed to have dissenting opinions while still being part of the 'in group' there are progressives who love the 2A, for example, despite that being diametrically opposite of the groupthink expectation.

what kool-aid is it that you think ive drunk from? i consume no news that hasnt been filtered through leftist channels like reddit. but, i also realize that fighting for the right for kids to troon is doing significant harm to trans acceptance. adults have been transitioning medically for 100+ years, children transitioning has been a 21st century phenomenon. not all things adults do should be allowed to children. im 32, im a millennial, not a boomer. TERFs suck ass.

the reasoning for why it should be allowed is always so unbelievably shallow. so they can pass better... seriously? who cares if their development is affected as long as they can pass, right?!

i'm a millennial and i say diypill them all

>>40022755
disgusting liar
your attitude will cost you

>>40022774
BASED

>>40022670
oh yeah, that was an AGP/repper. i do have an uncle that straight up told me if he was younger he'd troon. he dates women but does drag at least, as an outlet + does the "token" thing rod fleming talks about by getting nails done
>wonder what happened to all the old posters of the gen, where they are now?
likely, as many of us tend to do, after getting to a certain point in your transition, you move on from this place.

>>40022824
Drag, like the gay subculture type or just normal transvestism? There were some AGPs in drag in ye olde days too.

>>40022796
what do you mean liar?

>>40022848
yeah like the gay subculture type, out at night clubs and what not. im nearly certain he probably does it more often than just then, but that's not something you really want confirmed

>>40022854
>the reasoning for why it should be allowed is always so unbelievably shallow. so they can pass better... seriously? who cares if their development is affected as long as they can pass, right?!
how you gonna come here and repeat anti-trans talking points that undermine the notion of adult transition and directly frame everything about being trans as a fetish or a series of optional choices? you're all the same, disingenuous to the end, because you are authoritarian and prostrate yourself before what your "betters" tell you

>>40022884
yjk he's kai-kai'd some queens

>>40022897
oh he most likely has, im sort of surprised he dates cis women. but maybe his heterosexuality is still strong. that side of the family are super religious, so, im sure that introduced its own set of brainworms.

>>40022897
Considering that the word Kai Kai exists does that mean drag queens are Agamp to some degree? Or do they take off their getup while sexing?

>>40023022
the whole point is that they fuck while still in drag, i think the line between AGP/AGAMP/hetero/homosexual is blurred a lot by how intense male sexuality can be. and at the end of the day, wigs and makeup or not, its still two men having sex so its not detracting from their gay identity

>>40022415
>i remember wanting to rope bc she was so pretty
Anyone have a pic?

okay maybe i should resume the infighting it seems like it was the only thing keeping the thread alive

>>40023603
whats wrong with you

>>40023604
Kids shouldnt have hrt, especially since most detransitioners are under age
Also, u cant consent to being a trans adult when u are a child
Pushing hrt on children is evil, let them wait until they are teenagers at least to decide!

>>40023681
Nothing. I just want to see what a cute AGP transgirl looks like

>>40023638
we cant be friends despite us not agreeing? come on, im not mad at you, dont be mad at me.
>>40023704
yeah and plus all this talk about "testosterone poisoning" and how it ruins chances of passing all while supporting allowing AFABs to start T as minors. evil!!!

>>40023793
she wasnt agp. she looked like a 100% cis pretty white girl

>>40023793
you can see plenty of them in passgen on Friday

>>40021006 (OP)
hello agp freaks another day in my shitty agp life!

>>40023825
>passing
>in passgen
lol, lmao even

>>40023823
Can I see proofs?

>>40023842
what AGP things are you going to do today?
>>40023862
you see, i didnt imply that they passed. they said they wanted to see cute AGP transgirls. you can be cute but not pass.

>>40023916
probably nothing except goon to my usual agp fantasies and maybe try on the skirt i have stuffed in my closet just to see how it looks on me again.

>>40023916
nta, but i found this fuckin tome the other day and i was probably going to finish it up https://archiveofourown.org/works/44275453/chapters/111343591

beautiful MEF slop with strong AGP under currents. it manages to blend together SAO isekai with gooner coya mechanics and that sweet sweet captions prose. hands down a great work in the history of trans feminine literature. if the author some how reads this comment good job, also take your estrogen.

Good girls goon their clitty to sissy Hypnos...

>>40023985
ohhh okay are you a nondysphoric AGP? do you wear the skirt during the gooning, before, or after?
>>40024017
>SAO isekai with gooner coya mechanics
I havent the slightest clue what this means

goon goon goon goon goon goon goon goon goon goon goon goon goon

Goon your cute little clitty you dumb slut

>>40023980
Fuckin rude

>>40024208
what if im not allowed to touch it?

>>40024219
sorry big bro... maybe i could be your agp transgirl tonight?

>>40024149
> I havent the slightest clue what this means
and you call yourself agp

>>40024287
they didnt give me a handbook when i arrived, forgive me.

>>40024256
Plap or vibrate your cute little balls or maybe just watch your hypnos and let it leak on its own

>>40021006 (OP)
Hate
Hate hate hate

I’m not even agp
I can’t enjoy my transition
Fuck
I guess that means I’m not trans
I wish I could just accept it and move on

>>40023811
>evil!!!
is what you and anyone with your fantastical and unfounded beliefs really is, just a constant living expression of hatred
I personally don't believe that people like you even "deserve" access to HRT, but I also don't believe in anyone deserving anything being something that matters or that I should be in charge of those kinds of decisions because of my own bias

>>40024274
that use to be someones son

>>40024149
no i get dysphoric. i dont wear the skirt during gooning most likely before hand.

Hello, how is everyone doing?

>>40026591
i'm doing alright. just did fuck all at work and wasted $30 on ebay.
how are you doing, nona?

>>40026659
I am extremely tired, I've been working a lot lately. I need it to end.

>>40026731
rough yea. especially if you're going through other stuff on the side..

>>40026773
i don't have the time to think of anything but work past 1 month.

>>40026575
so are you going to transition if you’re dysphoric? i only assume you haven’t already bc you referred to skirt as like a singular item
>>40026659
what did you buy from ebay nona?

>>40028426
a shirt that ended up fitting too tight around my arms :p i was buying it to test the sizing of this brand bc it's expensive so at least it served its purpose ig

>>40028969
that was a smart way to do it, although i see why you feel like the money was wasted. are you going to buy from that brand but just in a larger size?

>>40029031
maybe... i don't mind used clothes honestly so may try to cop a bigger size from ebay if i can find one

just remembered agpgen was dogshit

>>40029071
i dont really mind used clothes either, shoes/swimsuits are where i draw the line. but clothes, you can always wash them. and it’s not like buying them off the rack guarantees no one else has worn them someone may have tried it on and dozens more put their hands on it. do you like to go thrifting? what’s your best score if so? (mine was a new pair of doc marten Jadons for $60!!)

>>40029099
was it always like this or is it just sort of dead/bad because it’s being necromanced against its will?

>>40029112
it functioned as repgen-lite for a while before it died, before that it was a bit more "fun" but that was also driven by quite literal boomer sissies

>>40029150
i’d actually assume there are more agp mtfs than agp reppers on this site, maybe that is the shift that has caused the culture downgrade. that and many trans women reject agp as a premise so are unlikely to identify with the label.

boomer sissies creep me the fuck out. i’ve met one in real life and i don’t think ive ever been more repulsed by a person. i’m not blind to the fact that had i been born 40 years sooner id have ended up the same way, but that doesn’t actually make them easier to be around.

>>40029102
uhhh in person thrift stores i just get overwhelmed. i feel like getting used clothes online can be a bit of a gamble though bc sometimes there are holes and such that weren't obvious on the listing..

>>40029188
I think the board as a whole has shifted away from the vitriolic bl*nchism it used to espouse, but part of its death knell was mods banning
>bmg
>mmg
>agpgen
and their direct offshoots along with sometimes even
>repgen
on the basis of them basically just being alternatives to mtfg (alongside more prominent anti-trans/pro-bl*nch reppers falling off and migrating to tw*tter or other safe spaces where they could share their views (which happen to curiously enough overlap with more generally hateful racist and otherwise bigoted views and general /pol/faggotry, go figure))

>i’m not blind to the fact that had i been born 40 years sooner id have ended up the same way, but that doesn’t actually make them easier to be around.
extremely discomforting trvke and part of why I became so aggressively anti-repression and anti-gatekeeping over the years

>>40029207
oh yeah that and the fact that things like smoking, weird house smells, and pets can also be ever more present if the used clothes come straight from someone’s house. in person thrifting has been ruined by flippers anyways.

>>40029220
yeahh. i kind of like the smell its just bright and flourescent and people are around. i get really tripped up when theres someone browsing exactly where i want to look and i have to awkwardly pretend to browse within view but not too close. i think my best find was a genuine leather jacket with a disintegrated cigarette in the breast pocket. it was pretty cheap for what it was and i regret giving it away when i moved out for college

AGP is ruining my life as a cis straight white man on testosterone

>>40029267
then imagine how bad it ruins my life as a trans bisexual white woman

>>40029267
Well you have to make a choice, there are many ways to deal wth AGP

>repress completely
>Integrate it with your daily life without hormones
>Use hormones but a SERM regimen
>Full on transition

And many combinations, what's important is finding the best path for yourself.

>>40029320
Not that anon. What's a SERM regimen?

>>40029366
Basically chemicals which prevent breasts from forming.

>>40029150
it's literally driven by festering masses of estrogenized troons like the rest of the board you can tell by typing style alone

>>40029210
stop making up bs

>>40029267
i assume you’re saying that it’s ruining your life because you feel like you can’t have normal relationships with women because of it? or are you very dysphoric too? if you’re dysphoric, you really should start E, whether for transitioning, manmoding, whatever, it will at least do two things 1) offer mental effects of estradiol that will help some 2) neuter sex drive so pervasive agp fantasies don’t consume you. if a woman you’re dating finds out just say it’s for better skin
>>40029366
selective estrogen receptor modulator
>>40030741
estrogen makes us type differently?

bump

Working 50 hours a week and going back to school is the only thing that puts my agp into remission. Thank the Lord.

>>40032560
Your AGP origin?

>>40032560
you're just disassociating and depersonalizing. that isn't going to make it go away, just prolonging the inevitable. setting yourself up to be a john(50). & plus the fact that you're here means that you are not truly in remission, otherwise, why else would you be on the tranny board?

>>40032586
I come here for repping tips and tricks and the rare bit of insight
>>40032576
Don't know what this means I am a latecel ROGDfag though.

>>40032694
are you already 30+ years old? if not just stop repping lol. especially if you're dysphoric, and i assume since you said ROGD you probably are. do you really want to spend the rest of your life running away from something that is never going away?

i think they were asking like, when did you first realize you were AGP and how did you discover it? ill admit i was expecting some Bane-esque monologue "Ah you think AGP is your ally? You merely adopted the AGP. I was born in it, molded by it"

>>40032694
If you're a latecel they you must've had a trigger right? Most of us are "activated" by the conecpt of transition or crossdressing. As an example it was the traps page on enecyclopedia dramatica for me.

>>40032734
im NTA but I really genuinely think i was born this way. my earliest AGP interests began at age 4/5. i did not encounter any triggers for it at that age, surely. i think AGP is more of a sexual orientation than a paraphilia and that is just the one i was given.

>>40030741
>>40030754
?
schizo?
newfag?

>>40032898
Dats crazy, AGPs are sooo diverse, I had vaguely AGP thoughts before, buts its only before being exposed to tg/tf stuff that it got really intense.

>>40032901
>starting post with ? like some reddit twitter bastard
been here longer than you jackass

>>40032922
lol yeah the wildest thing to me is that AGP can make a male straight (attracted to women), bi, or homosexual (attracted to men), or, completely asexual due to analloeroticism. and then AGAMP is even sort of its own thing

even when i was that young (4-5) i had interest in crossdressing, day dreamed about being a girl, got jealous that girls got to do girl things. of course, puberty only intensified these things, but it didn't begin with puberty like many others report.

>>40033040
??
what was inaccurate about what I said? really good odds I've been on this site longer than you've been alive

>>40033090
are you an omegaoldfag who started /b/rowsing in like 2003/2004? i first went on /b/ back in like 2009, sad that 16 years later im still on 4chan. but i guess what do you expect from an autistic shut in tranny

>>40033123
yes that's me lol

I still don't know what anon is seething over or what I said that he thinks is wrong

I literally want to just be cishet straight male. I just want to have a girlfriend and kids and just being dude. Why do I have the tranny thoughts? Maybe when I was a teen it was sexual but it's not even that anymore. I get sad and jealous and think that I wish I was a woman, but then I think about it and no I don't wish I was a woman I just want to be ok as a man. Ive already made peace with and like being a man to an extent, so why do I have the tranny thoughts? How do I make this shit go away?

>>40033179
just keep gooning

>>40033179
wishing to change your sexuality is like wishing to be able to fly. sorry bud, you're stuck this way. that of course isn't to say that you can't go on to have a gf/kids/wife whatever, but the thoughts arent going away. realistically, if that is truly what you want is to live the normie life, you'll need to either a) find a woman who is okay with your AGP and will indulge it occasionally or b) fulfill your AGP needs outside of the relationship (private crossdressing, open relationship, etc.) eventually, you will get very dissatisfied with the relationship if you don't have an outlet for it. & option c) just troon and make the most out of being a tranny, it really is so much more comfortable than living as a man. like dysphoria hardly affects my life any more, im happy with myself

>>40033179
I would say 80% that AGP is innate

>>40033262
Im not changing my sexuality. Guess this isnt the place to ask. I dont even have agp I just feel sad.

>>40033286
how would you describe your tranny thoughts anon?

>>40033295
sadness jealousy longing depression

>>40033280
i'd argue that it is 100% innate, but those that have it as an innate characteristic experience it in varying degrees/intensities. for someone with only a mild interest in AGP, it probably doesn't compete with their hetero attraction and they can likely live normal lives without trooning. then there's people like me who AGP is their entire sexuality (not even attracted to 'other' women, just the one within) and experience intense dysphoria.

>>40033286
>>40033349
sorry to tell you this friend but if you have gender dysphoria and are attracted to women, you are autogynephilic. rationalize it however you want, but that's the reality. id argue it is the place to ask since most people ITT will be like you.

>>40033349
> yeah

>>40033392
i've never had such a visceral emotional reaction to such a whimsical illustration. this one hurts anon

>>40033403
iktf. its a /repgen/ classic.

>>40033388
NO
FUCK YOU
STOP THIS PRESCRIPTIVIST BULLSHIT

your precious authority figure is a fucking FRAUD

>>40033422
i've yet to see, hear, or read anything that proves him wrong

>>40033522
bootlicking scum
stop spreading your filth

>>40028426
probably not just living as a guy on hrt. bought the one skirt years ago but hardly ever wear it so i'm not wasting money of buying more.

>>40033553
as long as that allows for you to be happy and comfortable i think that is great nona. transitioning is a long, difficult road, and not something that is right for everyone with GD.

can i still hang out in here if im agamp and deranged and self hating

yeah thats chill ig

>>40029099
NOT ITS NOT NOT ITS NOT!!!

>>40034071
i do

AGAMP > AGP >>> GAMP > straight > fag >>> hsts >> bi

>>40034342
But Bi=AGP
>>40034222
Uggh I need some place to discuss tg/tf stuff
>>40034071
What kinda AGAMP

>>40034463
gamp = gynoandomorphophilia (dick girl sexual)
agamp = autogynoandromophophilia (attraction to oneself as a dick girl)

>>40034342
mef >>> all

>>40034463
>>40034479
i want to be a femboy

>>40034494
thats agamp
(femboys are coping dickgirls)

>>40032720
>>40032734
I'm late 20s. And I shouldn't have said ROGD because it's not really dysphoria, more like ROAGP. But yes it was triggered in college after being exposed to transgender women. It is pathetic to be sure, but ignoremaxxing is the only viable, honest, and ethical treatment for my case

>>40034786
Ooof, is it progressive i.e getting worse or is it fine, did you ever watch tg/tf porn before, or crossdress or crossdream?

>>40034805
It is stable now but was rocky for a few years. I've been addicted to the internet since a young age so I was getting into all sorts of weird shit, trap and futa culture of course included. I had no desire to cd until after being exposed to the idea. Although currently I'm on nofap / noporn but it's probably too little too late.

>>40034916
Hmm, have you had a relationship atleast? If you couldn.t get it up for a woman than you are prob truAGP

can't take body dysphoria people seriously
if a limb on your body got disfigured in accident sure you know that something is wrong but you'd accept it as a fact and it wouldn't be the end of the world

>>40035127
Nah I'm an incel so I'll never know how I perform under het circumstances. Sad!

>>40034786
wait so you saw the trannies and then wanted to be one? interesting genesis. but yeah if it’s not gender dysphoria, don’t transition, bad idea. actually, just saw >>40034916 and sounds like a little porn addiction too. i’m sorry you’re struggling with that.
>>40035403
just wait til you hear about apotemnophilia, aka body integrity identity disorder

>>40035566
made up bs honestly

>>40035696
BIID/Apotemnophilia? it’s very real. people have amputated their own limbs or blinded themselves with chemicals because of it.

Thanks to those threads back in 2023 I cracked. Now on HRT I lost sex drive, dont get any "euphoria boners" and my sexuality changed from bi to straight. Not sure if I'm AGP still or not. I miss Frenchie and her "I wish I was trans" or posting ANSUR charts and getting called kys luckshit lol. It was good time.

>>40035854
you’re still agp. you can’t cure it or get rid of it. the only reason you don’t feel the agp urges anymore is bc of a neutered sex drive and normalization of the day-to-day parts of being a woman.

>>40035854
I remember them. But I had already taken hrt by then so didn't lurk in the threads, but since then I detrooned. V cool. Also don't have agp. Even after libido came back after being off hrt for a year, agp didn't come yeh. feeling not so good tbhon

>>40036180
wow maybe the tranny thoughts really do just go away

>>40036209
no they didn't

>>40036475
i know it’s horror movie type shit. the thing that makes me shudder is how analogous it is to agp. at least i got the one that only requires i mutilate myself a little bit

what do fetishes without agp even feel like

>>40036180
What's your tranny thoughts then nowadays? Also how long were you on e?

question mid thread: whats your triggers

>>40021006 (OP)
I miss those days so much, I want to cry.
I have committed so many mistakes...
I'm only in my mid 20s and yet I feel like it's all over. It might be.

>>40038815
how are you going to ask but not share yours? (also, so i can get examples of what you mean)
>>40039405
what mistakes have you made? those days are here again. this thread has been alive for at least a day now, it’s doing just fine

>>40040858
kill yourself

>>40040904
no i don’t think i will. why are you saying that?

>>40040965
DO IT

>>40021006 (OP)
I transitioned while being AGP now there's a little man in my soul whispering to my currently primarily feminine persona, WTF is going on with me?

>>40036180
detrooning seems like death to me. HRT had such a great mental impact on me that I would take it for the rest of my days just for this effect alone. Not to mention small changes on my face make me happy. For the first time since puberty started I dont feel like I'm dying. They say HRT dont fix depression but it helped me a lot with that. I feel inner warmth inside, not bottomless pit like I used to during repping. Still boymoding, still my life is shit but I feel great. Tho it made me starving for love and made me straight. But that's ok.

>>40041095
Like the devil on your shoulder so as to speak?
>>40041166
Straight meaning attracted to men only or women only?

>>40041261
men

>>40041281
Nice! make sure to optimize your transition so you get a good fat distribution, in my experience men get really dominant with thicc women.

>>40021048
JEALOUS

>>40021257
is that really xer

I wish I was trans
I wish my body was ok and not ugly
I wish I could wish you be a girl
I am so tired. I’m glad for hrt but it feels so…like nothing.
Am I stupid for wanting to feel like all the other girls? I wish I could transition young but I can live without it. I just want to feel similar feelings :(
I’m sorry. I’m too male and non-dysphoric :(
It never goes away :(
I am nothing. Maybe being a man is all my body my brain and my life want me to be and being a girl isnt for me. Msybe detransitioning is for me. But I don’t want that. Fuck.

>>40022617
Jorgensen was HSTS, idk who the others are.

>>40041261
>Like the devil on your shoulder so as to speak?
No, more like someone in the corner of a room.

>>40041311
not gonna happen for me. I'm perma underweight. Tho my body shape is hourglass.

agpgen wasn't even glory days niggers
glory days were when agp was associated with buffalo bill and there was a self deprecative and humble element to it and not every run of the mill narcissist wanted to be associated with it like some kinda cool new buzzword

>>40041369
r you sure, but either way its fascinating reading about the early AGPs in germany in the 1920s and their lives and experiences.

My favourite AGP would deffo be lynn conway
>>40041456
So what does he tell you?

>>40041336
Nah that's ai generated.
This is him (he goes by he him)

>>40041369
Jorgensen was an analloerotic AGP.
>>40040858
"""Trooning""" too late, abandonning my friends, these sorte of things really.

>>40041095
mine is exactly the same nona. they can even talk to each other. (maybe i’m crazy)

>>40041828
it’s perfectly natural for a word to become de stigmatized. and plus, i’m sure 99% of us probably only use the label in online spaces like this and aren’t blasting it to the public
>>40042594
oh i’m glad i asked i thought you meant like what activates the AGP. i’m sort of married to the idea of fate, so i don’t really believe that i started too late, i feel like i started exactly when i was meant to. i’d say my biggest ones are comparing myself to cis women and knowing that im not /actually/ straight but that it’s some circular mental gymnastics that occurs

>>40042812
I think too late depends on genetics.
I don't believe in fate, through.

>>40040858
>>40038815
mine: Short skirts, pop music, heels.
what are triggers: things that make you want to get glammed up and dicked down
> t. not attracted to men tho

>>40044087
What pop artists d'you like? and yeah miniskirts are cool.

>>40044155
swift, sabrina carpenter, what ever is popular and feminine really

>>40024274
Fake F1nn shot, there is no dildo on the floor

What are some good trans feminist books one should read?

>>40044206
Any particular songs you like
>>40044330
The transmaxxing manifesto (jk jk)

Which school AGP did it the best?

>>40044384
Oh god we're going to be killed

>>40044384
Both are based and easily mog me
>>40044395
Me first I hope

>>40044052
that’s fair. genetics & money, desu. if you can afford the surgeries that can take you pretty far by itself.
>>40044087
ohhhh like that?
>misogyny, i.e getting called a bitch or a cunt, told i’m bad at something because im a woman, etc
>getting full glam dolled up, like full beat of makeup, hair styled, fake lashes+nails.
since i’ve been transitioned for a while, the day-to-day stuff doesn’t really activate anything like if i just use concealer and mascara
>super sheer/low denier hosiery, makes me feel sexy
>>40044330
>Anything by Torrey Peters if you like more casual stories about trans people
>If you want to know more of the scientific side of AGP, Man Who Would be Queen and Men Trapped in Men’s Bodies are both good reads
>Julie Serrano, if you like someone who rejects AGP
> Imogen Binnie, sort of like Peters but a little more raw

>>40044379
For me, it’s Ariana
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcYodQoapMg

>>40044433
So true

>>40041852
>So what does he tell you?
Most of the time he stays quiet and relegated to his place in the corner, but sometimes he tries to keep my femininity from getting out of control.

>>40042337
He’s so beautiful he should just get on hrt

>>40045084
He has been for a decade now.

>>40045195
what compels someone to do HRT for that long and still use he/him pronouns? that’s just silly imo. by that point you’ve transitioned

>>40045448
Because he doesn't care for socially transitioning and has no social dysphoria. His gf is a trans.

>>40045586
oh, I guess if there’s no social dysphoria and just anatomical it makes sense. probably also sort of lives through his gf a bit. how do you know so much about him?

>>40038815
>getting tied up and blindfolded
>sexy designer clothing
>sheer lingerie
>getting ejaculated on
i have more triggers but those really get me going

>>40045616
I am a loremaster when it comes to AGP history and TC is part of it.

>>40045796
Hey wanna connect on disc, I'm also very interested in AGP history?

>>40045448
I want to see his boytits

>>40044155
picrel was my biggest repping cope.