The sheer amount of bullshit that has been thrown at the trans and queer communities over the past 6 months is fucking astonishing.

How can this be prevented from happening again?

>>40343012 (OP)
Have you tried voting? And not for Jill Stein?

i and lots of people posted about trump and project 2025 here but many are retarded and either hate brown people more than they like themselves or thought kamala hated brown people

anyone who didn't vote for kamala completely deserves this

>>40343012 (OP)
None of these were the meat of the project 2025 document or it’s doomposting though

>>40343023
but... but muh palestine

>>40343012 (OP)
Passing the Equal Rights amendment or starting a new country.
Trans people and anyone who wasn't born here are already living under a Trjmp dictatorship the rest of you are just catching up.
This was it we had one opportunity to keep him out after the courts and our elected leaders failed to stop him. Now we get to live though Christian Nationalist dementia hellscape until Trump and Vance fall from power. The constitution is meaningless, the Supreme Court exists solely to move the line of legality around Donald Trump. Liberal media exists to keep the dems neo lib and zionist meanwhile social media has been completely eaten by the right. Congress is gerrymandered so hard almost no seats are competitive and the GOP practically starts with a majority and is almost guaranteed one in the senate.

Hey maybe ill live to see some of the rights I had in 2015 come back before I die of old age

>never voted for zionists
>still not voting for zionists
>never will vote for zionists

McBride is right, trans sports and trans youth are losing issues and need to be abandoned as core issues yesterday.
>b-b-but that wud be mean!!1! You would be throwing people under da bus!!!
Fuck yourself with rusty rebar, I could not care less. It's fucking over everyone else on the bandwagon so it should die.

>>40343144
I feel like you're being a bit too optimistic, they're likely not to permit power to flow back into the hands of the voting public anytime soon

>>40343012 (OP)
>Reverse policies that allow transgender individuals to serve in the military
I don't understand why they would want this unless they value trans lives more than other people

Sorry, leftists have more articles to make about Palestine. Reminder now and forever, liberals are the ONLY ones who have ever secured LGBT rights for people in the US

>>40343291
liberals and fascists are the only two groups with the legal ability to enter government

>trans people go back to not being constantly pandered for in media
>it paradoxically becomes easier to pass and live as a normal person, and if youre a boymoder/manmoder you dont have people sniffing you out for being a disgusting non-passing tranny
WOOOOOOW

>>40343023
Yes, we have tried voting, that’s what led us here

Ok but the REAL problem is brown people as we can see from this infographic I got on /pol/

t. average LGBT "person" (I use the term loosely)

>>40343025
You’ve gotta stop hating the other side and wake up to the system that made us vote for either one of these chucklefucks

>>40343173
BABAAAASSED

you know in islam you will be wearing a burka jijab 100% of the day
and since being gay is illegal you will be forcibly transitioned to a woman by the state

you get to be some cute terrorist's wife :)))

>>40343333
>both sides are bad, so stop trying to make it sound like my side is worse

>>40343291
we will find a solution with lgbt rights and without crushing palestinian children, we can circumvent you
>>40343173
>>40343326
why are leftists always allergic to power man
people like you are gonna get us all fucking killed

>>40343335
muslims are 1.1 percent of the population in the US

>>40343012 (OP)
maybe trannies should be less obnoxious and predatory?

>>40343173
voted to kill trannies

>>40343364
zionazis are trying to convince americans that the biggest threat is some dude with a vaguely muslim-sounding name while they're busy gutting all of the systems that made us prosperous and stealing literal billions to shoot starving women and children

>>40343023
omg imagine believing in democracy in 2025
we are in oligarchy / fascism now foolish child
vote red, vote blue, you get billionaires owning you

>>40343379
AIPAC: "muslims are the real threat to trannies"
*primaries socialist democratic candidate*
*donates to christofascist politician*
*feeds dark money into evangelical fundie churches*

>>40343386
you can both believe this is true, and also believe another trump presidency would be hell for everyone in the country

sure tho, abstain your vote so we get another 1 trillion to ice and half the country deported or whatever
its all the same shit right

>>40343396
another trump presidency is illegal, VOOOOOTing again isn't going to do anything at that point

>>40343406
he was too incompetent to rig the vote when biden won, tho he still tried to by pathetically calling people and asking to find votes for him
its very possible he runs a third time but fails to rig the election, atleast fully

>>40343396
you faggots would throw every single person thats been in the same postcode as a taco truck under the bus if it meant getting whatever artificially animated democratic corpse elected, why pretend to believe in anything? no one believes you.

>>40343416
rigging the election is irrelevant, he cannot enter office even if he wins

>>40343428
>he cant just ignore the law dude
HES BEEN DOING THAT

>>40343428
yeah trump's just going to run for a third term and win and everyone's going to be like "OK, I guess he can just do that"
the law is a dead letter if it's not enforced by anyone

>>40343431
i know, my point is telling people to keep VOOOOOOOOOOTing is completely useless if he enters office again because it would be an illegal coup

>>40343425
i care more about immigrants than you do you fucking fake progressive piece of shit.
im also more of a leftist than you could dream of being

>>40343439
no?
if he simply pushes the public opinion into apathy for running a third term he doesnt need a coup, like i said its very possible he does the third term bullshit and still loses due to fascist incompetence

>>40343442
your a libpol centrist cuck faggot you're one step away from being a libertarian

>>40343450
>we gotta VOOOOOOOOOOT again in 2028, but instead of legally winning, the purpose is now just a vague public apathy sentiment that is needed to make it politically unpopular enough to prevent trump from doing a coup
the absolute state of demcucks

>>40343451
go jerk off to the ghosts of old dead communist white men on twitter and donothing like you always do, useless fucking red liberal, psyoped successfully into being worthless piece of shit

>>40343355
Cool, so both Palestinians and queers have to suffer and die until you think tank your way into a solution

>>40343459
if there is even a 1% chance that voting does anything at all, why not do it.
>muh pride
who cares

>>40343450
can't happen a president can't serve 3 terms, dummy

>>40343465
>if there is even a 1% chance that voting does anything at all, why not do it.
i do vote, but i don't use my vote to rubber stamp foreign genocides

>>40343467
You got your head in the sand, buddy? Laws don't apply if no one is enforcing them

>>40343464
didnt say that, but im sure you have a plan to save all the palestinians with the way you are talking right now
>>40343467
>trump cant break the law
>>40343470
thats all i ask
if there are two evil sides and one is slightly less evil, just do it for the potential it might help some people
you can do everything else aswell

>>40343313
Not true, leftists just don't have any actual desire to make change or help minorities in any way so they either lose elections by being class reductionists or don't bother to run at all

>>40343461
you do nothing but vote for a neocon once every three years you pacified faggot only one of us is confused about our political impact

>>40343481
there are only 4 parties listed on the ballot (2 parties in non-presidential elections). only 2 of those parties have the possibility of entering office due to the inherent logical consequences of fptp voting

>>40343492
This leftist doesn't even know that non federal elections exist. This is how unserious they are

>>40343499
oh damn the city municipal council election in albuquerque really impacts either the genocide in gaza or the fascist genocide of queers in the us, damn you're right i should have taken that into account before posting

>>40343499
>I only vote once every 4 years so everyone else is the problem
kys

>>40343472
>>40343479
you're just making up fake scenarios in your heads, get it together and stop these worms!

>>40343506
local elections are the base of the pyramid and dominated by rightoids for the last 40 years during which we coincidentally witnessed a collapse of the liberal state

>>40343506
See, how the leftist refuses to participate in local politics. Bathroom ordinances, changes to school curriculum , library book bans, access to homeless shelters and resources, housing measures, it's not Gaza so it doesn't matter. Like I said, they don't give a fuck and that's why they will continue to be useless

>>40343012 (OP)
All of those policies seem pretty normal to me. Returning to pre-2012 common sense isn’t radical.

>thread about doing something
>devolves into leftists complaining about how they shouldnt have to vote or something
its never gonna get better

>>40343537
maybe not radical, objectively worse tho

>>40343539
>electoral politics gets you fucked
>wtf we need more electoral politics

>>40343531
>political undesirables being kidnapped off the street by federal agents
>BUT MUH HECKIN LOCAL HOUSING POLICY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>40343012 (OP)
None of this stops you from being trans in your own life it just stops the government from supporting it.

>>40343539
Remember camridge analytica, remember cointelpro, and then ask yourself why the left is retarded. We’re all reactive lab monkeys atp

>>40343550
they will go further

>>40343549
notice how the leftist doesn't even vote to change the name of the post office
predictable

>>40343521
the base of the pyramid is capitalism itself, level 2 of the pyramid is the constitution allowing only 2 parties de facto, level 3 of the pyramid is legalized bribery (lobbying), level 4 of the pyramid is dark money flowing into the republican party, fascist astroturf in local elections is like level 5 or 6

>>40343549
>A stronger state can protect you against the fed
>NO I WILL JUST COMPLAIN AND DIE THANK YOU
Complain and die, thats all they want.

>>40343544
Frankly i think everything is objectively better when the main focus isn’t how welcoming it can be to 0.01% of the population that has strong opinions on their genitals. I don’t need Disney-exxon to tell me how loved trannies are. The world has real problems. The dems would win elections if they ever tried to for once. Instead all we get is “xes a strong brown woman it’s xer turn”. Pass

>>40343580
>i think everything would be better if we didnt focus on trannies
>focuses on trannies
cinema

>>40343580
You are wrong and are falling into the "citizens are le heckin good puppers" rhetoric that leftists love so much. People are not misguided, people want pain and suffering for their enemies. Democrats do not offer that and only win when Republican policy causes enough pain and suffering to their own base that they stay home. The average American is not a good person and appealing to them that way does not work.

>>40343568
are you doing a bit or...

>>40343588
They’re not focusing on trannies. Project 2025 is more than 2025 pages. They are focusing on everything. Can you even name a policy from the left that is not identity focused or has been anymore more than “give poor people $2000 for housing so the cost of all houses goes up $2000”? Get new material, that shit isnt working

>>40343578
>local elections
>"stronger state"
are you planning on seceding from the US, forming a commune, and declaring sovereignty or something?

>>40343576
youre genuinely retarded and im sorry. Tbh i dont understand how you cant see the connection between macro social relations and micro social relations. be willfully ignorant and “radical” while your rights are ripped from you by geriatrics

>>40343621
>you're wrong but i won't say why
i accept your concession

>>40343628
pot calling the kettle black

>>40343637
you tossed in the towel first, bitch

>>40343643
you replied to my original comment with a nonsense no-you mirror of my post with no explanation or rebuttal. are you autistic?

>>40343012 (OP)
>How can this be prevented from happening again?
1) Arrest entire trump administration and every author of project 2025
2) Use eminent domain to sieze a coal mine
3) Put them in the pit
4) Make an example of them

>>40343651
>the liberal state collapsed due to local elections
>no actually it was half a dozen other things
>this is nonsense
???

>>40343659
careful anon, advocating violence to defend yourself against the state is incitement, unlike using the state to commit violence against the marginalized, which is just normal political perogative

>>40343673
liberalism is when the vote goes the way i want

>>40343683
Hey now I never said we should do any violence against the state! I'm saying that the next non-republican president should simply use all these fancy expanded executive powers to kill these fascist freakshows currently running the government!

>>40343673
more like
>thing i think
>buzzwords formatted to mirror me
arranging leftist signals doesn’t mean anything

>>40343689
>mfw I’m trans and don’t plan to live beyond age 30
Must be nice…

>>40343691
>things don't HAPPEN due to concentrations of power in society, it was hordes of heckin boomer chuds who took my rights away!!!!!!!

>>40343025
>thought kamala hated brown people
clearly she didnt find brown people important enough to win elections about it
>anyone who didn't vote for kamala completely deserves this
what about the rest of us what then
>>40343173
baitpost
>>40343335
this poster grew up in the singular white-flight-est suburb imaginable and crosses the street after seeing a black person

>>40343425
dems dont even care about getting elected anymore tbhon theyre just doing fuckall
look at my opposition party dawg

>>40343713
>Vote them out of power
>Damn why they not doing anything
Honestly starting to think trannies deserve what they're getting at this point

>>40343698
have you considered that old far rightists dominating look elections constitute a consolidation of power? have you considered your performative refusal to stand in a line for fifteen minutes and checking a box once every year or two allowed them to consolidate power unabated? boy! anyways i sure do wonder why my local pd is militarized and the roads are falling apart

>>40343722
YOU HAD FOUR YEARS TO PUT TRUMP IN PRISON!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOUR FUCKING YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>40343025
I and lots of other people told you libs in 2020 that if you voted Brandon into office that Trump would come back and win in 2024, and that only a Bernie Sanders presidency had any chance of creating an off-ramp from the apocalypse. By 2024 it was already joever. Sorry for not voting Hindenburg over Hitler 2 elections in a row, maybe you should have backed Thälmann when that was an option and we could have actually stopped this from happening. As it stands, not voting Kamala en mass in 2024 was still the best strategic call, the legitimacy of the liberalism needed to die so that revolutionary social democracy (aka Democratic Socialism) could take flight. You cannot keep electing neoliberal centrist losers every 4 years, and every time you scrape out another win with one it makes more people become nazis.

>>40343748
if mamdani types are the future then trump might be the best thing to happen to this country in a century

>>40343386
well what are you doing about it?
>inb4 nothing

>>40343726
you've returned to the script of castigating me for not voting because you've forgotten i said i do

>>40343734
So tell me how Dems just put him in jail. How they "le lock him up?"

>>40343763
>noooo not a hot guy who wants to fund trans healthcare and make busses free, if that's the future we need FASCISM NOW
Huh?

>>40343763
He only won because he was running against a liberal sex pest lmao

>>40343774
>JUST VOTE FOR THE BLUE TICKET STUPID LEFTY
>ok you're in office now do the thing you promised
>AND HOW EXACTLY ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT??????

>>40343772
there are multiple anons in this thread. who is your comptroller? do you vote EVERY election? be honest

>>40343783
So no answer then. I didnt to vote for orange man to go to jail. I voted to stop retarded policies from being enacted

>>40343784
i don't know what "every election" is, i vote every 2 years

>>40343778
reading comprehension
>>40343781
cope, the individual planks of his platform have super majority levels of support among the democratic base

who even are the leftists in this thread man these arent real people. no one in this thread is real you're all either keyboard warriors, vooooooters who do fuck all else, or faux leftists who go on n on about organizing but cannot speak to your waiter, much less organize action. mostly everyone in this thread should have bad things happen to them somewhere between death and stubbing all their toes one by one
>>40343722
who the fuck are you people who is holding these opinion what the hell. ive never seen you fucks in person.
i think if democrats have values they would do literally anything at all, regardless of whether they got elected in or not.

>>40343774
Not them but in case you didn't notice Trump has put literally thousands of people in jails all over the place with no due process at all, sleepy Joe should unironically have drone striked Trump after that SCOTUS ruling on executive powers. Dems are just too soft and status quo pulled to do what needs to be done.

>>40343790

>>40343319
Except the part where the government wants to revert all the changes to our ID documents so they can tell if we're in the wrong bathroom at work.
Or, you know, whatever other reason they might be really, really obsessed with knowing your birth sex.

>>40343791
there are elections every year but whatever youre fine i guess, my point was more rhetorical anyways

Voting is the only thing that matter desu if you don't vote you basically don't exist

>>40343795
Do anything. Okay, list something you want them to do. Because really all I see from people who spout this shit is anger that the Democrats aren't killing Republicans

>>40343722

>>40343797
>Getting rid of due process is cool and based when my side does it. I love dictatorships when it's my team

>>40343810
>tell us to do anything you want
>kill republicans
>no

>Redusing to support the lesser of two evils and dooming the entire world to have an even more genocidal US president is heckin moralino

>>40343817
>Erm we elected you, that means you have to commit political assassinations for us because I'm afraid to order pizza let alone buy a gun

>>40343795
>faux leftists who go on n on about organizing but cannot speak to your waiter
In just the last two weeks:
- tabled for org at big event and talked to several dozen people, wore org stuff while going to and from said event and had multiple strangers approach me to talk about org while waiting for public transit
- wrote to local government body responsible for issue X about issue X
- flyered for rally org was holding to pressure local government to take action on issue X
- called governor of state about issue Y, an issue related to issue X
So no ms liberal I'm not what you're fantasizing about I have been putting up instead of shutting up for years.

>>40343355
>we will find a solution with lgbt rights and without crushing palestinian children, we can circumvent you

Ambitious aren't we? Let's see the achievements of the progressive movement over the last decade...

>>40343291
This is truth, anything else is cope

>>40343831
The org in question: the kkk

>>40343829
>JUST VOTE FOR THE BLUE TICKET STUPID TRANNY SO WE CAN KEEP BOMBING GAZA, NO WE'RE NOT GOING TO KILL FASCISTS FOR YOU, SHOOT THEM YOURSELF
meanwhile trump chuds when trump talks about killing or locking up people:

>>40343815
>nooooooo you can't just have the guy who is openly planning on ending democracy killed that's not democratic nooooooooooooo

>>40343183
Trans youth is like the #1 priority issue when it comes to trans people, fuck you

>>40343845
That dude in Minnesota didn't call for his representative to shoot those politicians. Just saying

>>40343845
Back to Gaza. That's all they care about. Palestinian death cultists. You must die for Palestine

>>40343854
It's bad optics and makes you look like you want the state to infringe on family affairs

>>40343840
Lol as if. I just don't want to sully their good name by making it possible for anyone to know that they have /tttt/ trannies in their membership.

>>40343862
kek ok you're on a script

yep
still never voting for zionists

>>40343810
start fucking campaigning. do any visible activism. push against the insane anti immigration. make yourself visible at ice raids. its been 8 years of letting trump get away with the anti immigrant rhetoric, the best time to push against it was then, the best time is now. move the damn overton window. actblue should be in overdrive and pouring money into primarying old fucks who refuse to move the party left. move the damn overton window and stop letting trump run away with it.
none of these will occur.

>I have been putting up instead of shutting up for years.
im not talkin about you then, im just complaining about keyboard warriors. what you're doing is valuable and i genuinely respect you.

>>40343874
Sorry I care about my rights more than people in another country

>>40343886
>muh rights
>DOESN'T lock up the fascist
>must we all crucify ourselves for gaza's sake???????
demon
snake in human skin
monster
forked tongue liar
skinwalker
abomination of all that is holy

>>40343886
why expect anyone to have any concern for you if you dont have concern for others

>>40343881
They are doing everything you say but you're drinking the same koolaid as the conservatives. Turns out all that visible activism doesn't actually stop deportations. Also primarying democrats does nothing currently. Every Democrat was successfully primaries tomorrow we'd be in the exact same state we are today

>>40343894
I have concern for myself and the people in my country. I do not expect Palestinians to have concern for me (they don't and would probably want me dead)

you stupid niggers still havent learned that voting doesnt change shit and the outcomes are predetermined and the political pendulum is artificial and its swing its designed to give you whiplash so you blame each other and never realize heres a zog uniparty?
useless literal faggots, all of you, you wont do shit and nobody on either side can do shit

>>40343897
>They are doing everything you say
How many rallies have Jeffries and Schumer held against the deportations exactly?

>>40343921
conspiratorial thinking is linked to low iq and brain damage

>>40343931
so is being a party loyalist

>>40343921
Magats vote and get everything they want.

>>40343012 (OP)
That's what you get when you pull yourself into politics. Have you considered people are tired of being fucked over under the guise of "tolerance" or whatever bullshit your elected official use you to pull that isn't what he promised you? Corrupt politicians that use you as a pretext to be corrupt are being removed, and you're paying the price with it. If you can't deal with reactionaries just leave the game

>>40343938
that’s unrelated anon. you might be terminal :/

>>40343939
MAGA actually have beliefs unlike liberals, liberals also get everything they want which is nothing

>>40343939
bro magats are crashing out over zionism and epstein and h1b indians and a million other things

>>40343957
Maga isnt consistent at all

>>40343957
proof that voting works

>>40343960
maga has schizo nonsense beliefs, liberals have NO beliefs

>>40343797
They all had due process.
You dont get a jury trial for immigration violations

>>40343958
can you show me some of them regretting their vote that's not just liberal media cope?

>>40343966
liberal rhetoric has been the same for over three decades

>>40343969
>due process = jury trial
lol cope

>>40343969
>You dont get a jury trial for immigration violations
You are supposed to get a trial in front of an immigration judge though, and a lot of them were removed over the objections of said judges.

>>40343335
Is that supposed to be some kind of issue? I'm a straight post-op transwoman. Cis gay men and feminists have been stirring shit against us for almost twenty years with their drop the T bullshit and LGB alliance. Yeah sure you want to be separate? I will wash my hands of you. If we got the Islamic Republic of Amreka that would be the funniest case of ironic justice in history, inshallah. I would be shaking with laughter under my chador while their bodies pop like ripe tomatoes on the streets New York.

>>40343984
That rule has been changed and for good reason. It was introduced by dems to make enforcing immigration laws impossible
Its simple: if you’re in the country illegally you get kicked out. You dont get to laim asylum 20 years later. You leave. And judge goldstein doesnt get to introduce a nationwide injunction to stop this.
What to win elections? Fight for Americans with the same effort you fight for mexicans

>>40343973
>liberal rhetoric has been the same for over three decades while they've been for or against everything under the sun depending on whether they thought it was popular or not
Not really beating the 'no beliefs' allegations now are we. 'member when every prominent national liberal was against gay marriage on a personal level until literally overnight they all switched to being in favor of it? I 'member.

>>40343994
>least delusional tranny has to imagine america becoming an islamic republic to feel like a woman

>>40344002
youre mistaking belief in the status quo for no beliefs at all

>>40343203
Oh I think American democracy is dead and the nest thing blue states could do is secede when Trump goes boots on the ground in Iran. The experiment failed neo liberalism is the death of democracy by a thousand cuts

>>40343797
Honestly this Biden should have seen the writing on the wall and acted on it for someone outside of his son and cabinet pardons

>>40344002
I remember
I remember Obama telling everyone Biden made a gaf for saying trans rights were the future and we should have gay marriage now.
I'd unironically give a younger Biden both of Obama's wasted terms. Build back better would have been better than Obamas lets do nothing but Bush and Romney policies post 08

The dems arent so bad when you remember all the scum are third wave democrats we need to primary the same way MAGA and the Tea Party did

This thread reads like a fox news strawman . I think all trannies should legally be banned from discussing politics

>>40343012 (OP)
Maybe you shouldn't have tried to transition kids or allowed balding rapist hons to call themselves women?

>>40343012 (OP)
sometimes I worry that once we get a new pres every slacktivist lefty will go yay the problem is solved and not actually reverse any of the bs. like this will just become normal even tho it's set us back decades.

>you cant just kick foreigners out of the country without due process!
You cant just let people in to the country without due process
>what no its a one way street. The effort asymmetry is how we get to win by doing nothing
Well youll have to do something now, because were done fucking around. Youll find punching nazis is harder than typing the phrase. Good luck.

maybe we should stop tolerating faith as the basis for policy

>>40343012 (OP)
Can we get a @Kayla update?

Kayla, can you comment on the current developments? Do you still think your SRS will keep you safe? I mean you DID delete all court records of your identity change didn't you?

>>40346119
But without faith in the science who will correct our lying eyes and assure us the hulking figure with a cock and balls is a woman.

>>40343023
lmao real, we literally got handed obama 3.0 and the left had a meltdown over some middle eastern sand monkey war

>>40346660
Why would anyone want more Obama? The race riots are getting old.

>>40346672
idk it worked good enough for the economy and they don't fuck with trannies, seems to me like a decent deal for LGBT people. Sorry we don't get your socialist commie utopia from mainstream dems i guess

There's 3 or 4 swing states that decide everything. You just need to make sure that people in these states feel life is worth living again, like it was for their daddys and grandpappys, and not ground into the dirt by ~market forces~ so that they lash out and vote for the populist right.

>>40346790
I am all for making america great again in whatever way works, just don't make life harder for fags that's all I ask. I don't even dislike a lot of republican policy, its just that they cut taxes too much and are sometimes openly hostile to queers.

>>40346716
The economy where no one can afford a house? The economy where healthcare bankrupts people every day? The economy where education costs 100k?
Or are you referring to the stock market and doordash employment numbers

>>40346826
yeah well neither are going to help you and at least everyone can eat, suck it the fuck up and take what you can get

>>40346842
This type of messaging is why kamala lost
You need to realize this doesn’t work. NO ONE wants status quo anymore.

>>40346851
I don't want it either, but you have to admit the fact that democrats are so ready to shit on their own party for that certainly doesn't help lol. Trump's people don't give a FUCK what he does, he is their guy and they are gonna win it for him.

>>40346842
>shut the fuck up and take what you get
The DNC motto

>>40346867
Probably because he doesnt campaign under the pretense of being dogshit but at least not a democrat. He tells his people hes actually going to change things. Dems only promise to keep trump from changing things.

>>40343012 (OP)
>Abandon the redefinition of "sex" to "sexual orientation and gender identity" in Title IX
That's not what Bostock V. Clayton county even did, not that I'd expect reds to understand the nuance of what the ruling was actually about

>>40346885
waaa waaa waaa, so what, are you the person in charge of helping the democrats win swing voters? You are not, so if you want vaguely lefty policies then shut the hell up.

>>40343931
What’s the conspiracy? It’s public knowledge you faggot nigger.
Aren’t you on the side crying about muh project 2025, your very own qanon? Lmao.

>>40346867
THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS WANT TO CHANGE THE LEADERSHIP AND ARE MOVING LEFTWARD AS A RESULT OF CENTRISTS LOSING TWICE TO TRUMP AND FAILING TO SAFEGUARD DEMOCRATIC NORMS! YOU ARE OPERATING WITH AN OUT OF DATE PERSPECTIVE TO OVERCOMPENSATE FOR THE PERCEIVED ANNOYINGNESS OR FAILURE OF PROGRESSIVE TRANNIES! the energy is all with the fighters right now

>>40346901
I can’t imagine the dems have such a person. If they do they’re almost criminally bad at their job

People are really defending the DNC and trying to circle the wagons in 2025? JFC we are doomed.

>>40344001
Due process is not a 'rule' you fascist fucktard, it's a constitutional right LMAO

>>40346936
The immigration proceedings are rules. And the current rules still afford full due process. You can’t say a change to the rules are a loss of due process. Most illegals are kicked right out at the border, you think they don’t get due process? Was Biden killing due process when he enforced that common action? No. Words have meaning. Stop crying over illegals being forced to go home. Try helping Americans for once?

>>40346921
Bernie couldn't even shillary. The progressives are a minority on the democrat side and they have not achieved anything except handing Trump the presidency twice.

>>40346984
Their argument that Bernie lost twice because black voters are uneducated secret conservatives is now impossible to promote now that we've seen that they had the highest democratic voting percentage out of all races.

>>40347002
They also can't decide if there is a shift to the left or if every progressive that actually wins an election is a secret Pelosi plant

In 2015 they told me “because of shifting demographics there might never be a republican president again”
lol

>>40346984
I mean read the earlier part of the thread. They don't even care about winning state or county elections that they could use to promote candidates to higher positions in government

>>40346984
https://www.wral.com/story/cnn-poll-most-democrats-think-their-party-needs-major-change-while-the-gop-coalesces-around-trump/21815536/

things tend to change after two electoral failures and a bunch of capitulations to trump

>>40347042
I'd argue that it probably is true. Trump isn't a Republican in that he doesn't adhere to traditional Republican politics or values.

>>40347060
im the same guy who was advocating for increased participation in local politics though, im also progressive though

>>40343012 (OP)
Pressing the reset button on your God-forsaken country, by whichever means u can

>>40347079
>trust the polls!
lol have the tables have turned

Honestly, how do you fix this? I hear all this complaining that the Democrats need to do something but the problem is that Americans are retarded. Republicans worked for the last 40 years to make them extra retarded and they now live in a completely different reality. How do you promote any kind of policy when the people you're speaking to are too retarded to understand? How do you promote any message when the people have been taught to listen to the TV and the TV is owned by the other side?

>>40347175
wait until the GOP starves out the inbred and uneducated classes then start again I guess

>>40347156
berniebros have been screaming about polls since they showed him beating trump by like 10 points in 2016. you’re ignorant

>>40343012 (OP)
le based white nationalist tranny act only really works on this very specific board. there's no such thing as "one of the good ones" - you're literally just failed males in their (objectively correct in this case) eyes

>>40347216
after trump took office, all the blood and soil wignat trannies became pro-Palestenian socialists overnight