1. women have universally easier lives than men. This is an indisputable fact and defines the parameters of the lives of all amabs.

2. If a man went out on a date with you, a trans woman, and he was an utter stud-muffin, but insisted you pay for ALL of your dates, and he would go to a pizza place, order a pizza with anchovies, and hand you a slice, peel off the anchovies, put them on HIS plate, saying "babe I just love fish", would you still go out with him?

>>40406194 (OP)
this behavior would signal to me that he isn't interested..

>>40406276
1. What if he really does just love fish?
2. You view a man paying for you as a sign of genuine interest?

>>40406194 (OP)
>women have universally easier lives than men
"A survey for the BBC in 2019 found that in a study of 2,000 young women aged 18–39, 38% had experienced unwanted slapping, choking, gagging or spitting during otherwise consensual sex. And a similar proportion of men admit to choking or strangling a partner during sex without their consent." [https://theconversation.com/sexual-strangulation-has-become-popular-but-that-doesnt-mean-its-wanted-239235]
Ok Moid

>>40406194 (OP)
i mean if he asked about taking the fish off before id probably be fine with it? its a little weird but not like deal breaking. touching my food without telling/asking me would be an ick for me though

>>40406325
>muh post-consent needed extra consent!!!!!!

grow up jesus christ. do you NPC people operate your daily lives where every interaction with a person has an ''allow'' pop-up? these women are the same kinds who bitch moan and kick out of sex every 5 minutes because they couldn't bother to stretch before getting their ham slammed. stopping every 5 seconds because someone is uncomfortable is retarded. either have sex and enjoy what you know you want or im going the fuck home fuck these mind games people like you cuck for.

Don't get in bed with someone if you're going to ruin the rhythm with your bullshit. Get choked cunt.

>>40406325
women perform to influence perception when they know others are judging the results

>>40406458
Why are men so obsessed with choking women? Sorry you have to ask for consent before you try to kill the person you're having sex with

>>40406458
this. put out or fuck off.

>>40406511
same reason women read rape doujins, you holes enjoy it

>>40406194 (OP)
this is behaviour which i wouldn't tolerate in anyone
>>40406325
"oh no, a guy lightly spanked me during sex, i've been raped, but also why are guys so boring during sex?"

>>40406530
which part, the non-paying, or the fish-stealing?

>>40406325
women deserve to be choked to death

>>40406530
Waah How Can I get off if I can't injure my partner during sex [https://www.health.tas.gov.au/campaigns/sexual-assault-and-family-violence-forensic-services/non-fatal-strangulation#:~:text=photographs%20if%20needed.-,Dangerous%20symptoms%20and%20reactions%20to%20watch%20for,%23,-If%20you%20have]

>>40406568
waaaaaaaaaaaaah how can I enjoy sex without making it into a novel with 10 hours of foreplay

>>40406561
I think most men who have tried to have a conversation with a woman have experience this thought in their brain at some point in their lives.

>>40406511
>Why are men so obsessed with choking women
Not my cup of tea, but it is a dominance thing.
In the bedroom, you often see roles flipped.
A highly powerful CEO of a multinational company who fires people for sneezing too loudly would pay someone to tread on his balls and put him in diapers.

A man who is otherwise powerless would want to demonstrate to his partner that he isn't a weak-willed cuck with nothing going for him.

That's in consensual circumstances though.

>>40406194 (OP)
As for this...
What sicko puts anchovies on pizza.

>>40406553
both but mostly the nonpaying. i'd expect some compensation if he stole something i like off my plate without permission
>>40406568
imagine conflating spanking (slapping on any part of the body) with being choked and spat on LMAO
>all sexual violence and familial violence
you don't want to go there buddy, it's gonna suck for you when you realise your misandry doesn't line up with reality. if you wanna present men as being more rapey than women you'll have to go to specifically to the penetrative rape statistics.

>>40406630
it's simply the best the salty, briny undertones complement the crust

>>40406194 (OP)
jfc yeah if i like the dude i can pay for my food. i have a job and make my own money. we're not living in the 60s.
> go to a pizza place, order a pizza with anchovies, and hand you a slice, peel off the anchovies, put them on HIS plate, saying "babe I just love fish"
funny dude - love that :)) i'd giggle and let him have his anchovies

>>40406643
you sound perfect - but - you actually have a sense of humor so you can't be a real woman
:(

>>40406642
You're weird.
It's ok though. I'm sure you are a great person otherwise.

>>40406672
my jokes are baaad trust me, i just like it very much when other people make me laugh

>>40406637
>Complains about link to information about non-fatal choking being about violence
Geez I wonder why
>misandry
Misandry is when statistics

>>40406689
there was this super long - like it took 5-10 minutes to tell the whole joke dirty joke that was SUPER popular when I was 11-12 at summer camp - the first night of camp was always telling dirty jokes in the bunks once the counselors fucked off - and it was some long tale about working in a pickle factory that culminated in the worker getting their dick chopped off and added to a pickle jar - but I don't remember the rest of it.

>>40406711
lol

>>40406511
>lightly touch her neck, like a scarf
>try to kill

>>40406194 (OP)
women didn't have rights for much of human history and were treated as literal incubator nanny hybrids
what is this god awful take

>>40406722
Sounds like a nice deal, if you ask me.

>>40406720
>>lightly touch her neck, like a scarf
>>try to kill
[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/07/darlington-man-jailed-for-four-years-for-choking-woman-during-sex]
"Lightly touch her neck"

>>40406722
>women didn't have rights for much of human history and were treated as literal incubator nanny hybrids
do you know what happened to men during most of that time? we got fucking murdered in pointless wars
like do you think we had rights?
all the time women couldn't vote, men couldnt either, except for a short time in a few countries

>>40406801
men have always been more oppressed than women everywhere

>>40406801
And during those wars the men would go brutally rape and kill the civilian women in the country's they fought in.

>>40406833
men are just different to women
different biology, different payoffs, different behaviors
but ultimately women are more valued than men, even patriarchies that don't give women any rights treat them as valued property while they throw men's lives away

>>40406833
>men have always been more oppressed than women everywhere
How many cultures are there where most honor killing victims are male?

>>40406843
>country's
countries, stupid

>>40406850
how common is honor killings vs men working dangerous jobs and dying unremembered?

>>40406849
women are intellectually stupider than men are - people who refuse to admit this are terrorists

>>40406843
the proportion of women who were murdered was very small
even in primitive cultures where mass rape after a war was common, they wouldn't kill women, after all, the point was to bear children
and in those sorts of wars they would just kill every male over the age of 12
women are more valuable than men by virtue of the fact they get pregnant, and that means their lives are almost sacrosanct

>>40406870
>women are intellectually stupider than men are
they're not really
women have a better memory for faces and names, better language skills, more tender-hearted
worse spatial thinking and coordination, less interest in abstract problems
it's like arguing dogs are better than cats, we are just different

>>40406873
the concept of holiness is a psychological glorification of the nature of femaleness
religion is about protecting female power over men and getting men to commit violent, hateful acts that women demand they perform

>>40406870
China's gender inbalence is due to parents either killing their female children or abandoning them.
What country had so many men die from working dangerous jobs that it affected the gender ratio of the country?

>>40406911
every country
there is no country where women mostly are the ones doing mineral mining
it's just so baked into the culture you don't notice it

>>40406873
Rapes aren't done with some national goal of bearing children. Men just like raping women.
In the Rape of Nanking, for example, the women were raped and then mutilated and killed.
From Wikipedia:
>The women were often killed immediately after being raped, often through explicit mutilation, such as by penetrating vaginas with bayonets, long sticks of bamboo, or other objects. For example, a six-months pregnant woman was stabbed sixteen times in the face and body, one stab piercing and killing her unborn child. A young woman had a beer bottle rammed up her vagina after being raped, and was then shot. Edgar Snow wrote how "discards were often bayoneted by drunken Japanese soldiers".

>>40406849
being valued for your ability to reproduce
also no modern medicine
have fun rolling the dice to see which pregnancy you die on

>>40406915
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_sex_ratio] If men working dangerous jobs are affecting the sex ratio of every country how are there countries with a ratio of 1 or more?

>>40406941
do you just believe every number you read

>>40406946
> Noo you should believe a random person on the internet vs statistics and reality

>>40406960
women manipulate numbers to control society

>>40406920
>Rapes aren't done with some national goal of bearing children
that's the whole biological reason for rape, it's a beta strategy

why do you think men even like sex?

your whole response shows how you subconsciously value women and put them on a pedestal, everyone does this and doesn't even realize it

china had 14 million war deaths in WW2 and most of them were men, the number of women murdered brutally like this by japan was a rounding error compared to the number of chinese men who were murdered, nobody even thinks about the average chinese moid who bled out in a ditch or got bayoneted or raped or tortured, but nearly 100 years later everyone's still seething over a few foids

but oh no, someone dared murder the sacred wamen as well, their blood cries to the heavens

i don't blame you, you're just being human, part of that is to think women are just more valuable, but it's still a shit deal for us moids

>>40406511
>Why choke women / transwomen?
Righteous resentment.
Er, but also, they ask for it, so it becomes habitual.

>>40406972
>that's the whole biological reason for rape
Not the person that you're responding to but do you believe that people who rape children are trying to have children?

>>40407002
yes, those people idealize young female beauty and kids as young as age 9 can give birth and before that they see it as preparing the girl for what is to come

womens lives during war are so hard they get to go on indefinite vacation while their brothers and boyfriends die in the trenches of ukraine

>>40407002
sure, at least in terms of their biological impulses and why they have them
there's never been any evolutionary disincentive to have sex with young females, sperm is very cheap to make and you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

>>40406929
why aren't you complaining about the fact women have longer life expectancies than men in most countries?
we live in an anti-male system which treats men living 4-5 years shorter as inevitable, but if it was the other way around it would be the greatest medical scandal of all time

>>40407096
society hates men and worships women

>>40407096
Enunchs live longer than regular men [https://www.cnn.com/2012/09/25/health/eunuchs-lifespan/index.html] So it's probably testosterone that's causing men to die before women
>but if it was the other way around it would be the greatest medical scandal of all timeIt's not like women's health issues are always cared about. The Covid vaccine affecting women's menstral cycle wasn't even a known side effect until women started experiencing it.

>>40407096
Enunchs live longer than regular men [https://www.cnn.com/2012/09/25/health/eunuchs-lifespan/index.html] So it's probably testosterone that's causing men to die before women
>but if it was the other way around it would be the greatest medical scandal of all time

It's not like women's health issues are always cared about. The Covid vaccine affecting women's menstral cycle wasn't even a known side effect until women started experiencing it.

>>40407136
Yet men do all the work in society, and could end the matriarchy in 5 minutes if they wanted to. Curious!

>>40407188
>could end the matriarchy in 5 minutes
how?

>>40407204
Well, what are women going to do? Punch us with their tiny little arms? Slap us with their tiny little hands?

>>40407183
Yep, and endometriosis has little research going into it for the amount of women it affects (10%).
>>40406972
>that's the whole biological reason for rape, it's a beta strategy
Alright. You made it sound like men don't rape and kill women in wars because that would go against the reproductive strategy, they "just" rape them.
I showed no, they raped and then killed them brutally, and then you go on some tangent about how that's miniscule and tou actually meant evolutionary strategies leading to those rapey instincts, not an actual rational strategy.

>>40407207
falsely accuse u of rape/pedophilia

>>40406194 (OP)
No because I wouldn't go out with a man unless the express idea is that he is my pathetic piggy bank whatever he wants from me otherwise is negotiable also even the gals I date pay for my food usually
>>40406458
Rapist mindset

>>40407225
In general, men don't kill women, and a small number of exceptions (nearly 100 years ago) where they have just emphasises the rule that the vast majority of war casualties have always been men and you don't care about them.

>>40407241
And you don't care about women, just downplaying violence and misogyny, and only seem to care about men in war in order to do that.
Also, this isn't an outlier. Soldiers have always raped and killed civilians in war.

>>40407316
no, i don't care about women
everyone else in the world does, there might as well be one person on the other side to balance it out

>>40407316
misogyny doesn't exist

>>40406194 (OP)
trump won

>>40407360
Yeah. It's funny how you're trying to tell everyone women have cushh lives easier than men and downplay what women face and then have the gall to complain that I don't care about men enough when all I've done is counter what you're saying.

>>40407431
Women do have easier lives than men. That's why I don't care about them. They've got the planet obsessing over their stupid whims.

>>40406194 (OP)
>1. women have universally easier lives than men. This is an indisputable fact and defines the parameters of the lives of all amabs.

Nah. Because being a woman means that your body is WAY shittier than the body of a man and you live in a biological hell.

As women we constantly have a shitty cycle going on throwing us around and making us feel like shit, there's like 1 WEEK a month that makes you feel as good as men feel all month.

Our brains are literal worry-neurotic machines that always see problems and fears where there are none. Ask anyone dating straight women they will tell you the man is way more often chill, happy and the women is anxious and feels like something is off, hence why women are more likely to divorce too.

Men have like a superpower body. Better, faster, more sane. But they still cry like bitches.

>>40407485
women are catered to so their physical disadvantage doesn't matter at all - men are willing to assist them with all physical chores.

>>40406194 (OP)
i love anchovies but you can't just take them off pizza and give the "plain" pizza to someone else who doesn't like the taste, they completely change the flavor even if they're not on it anymore

>>40407527
it would still be more subtle than eating the fishies themselves
perhaps perfect for a first time anchovy initiate

>>40407516
The average woman is an overweight 35 year old roastie not a 19 year old beautiful teen girl. And living 24/7 in an inferior body that makes you more insane and enjoy things less sucks. It doesn't matter if that means a man holds open the door for me or will buy me a cheeseburger if I suck his dick afterwards.

>>40407533
maybe, idk, i've had people complain when i order them and the box is too close to theirs. also i've heard the wagies hate it so i only really have them when i'm cooking myself

>>40407556
life's too short to waste it on somebody else's fears

>>40407485
can someone explain day 18 and 28 to a uterusless person like me?

>>40407628
>bobs get bigger
>chocolate and hot water bottle for cramps

>>40407628
basically 5 days of severe bloating which makes women on edge and ready to claw someones eyes out

>>40407637
>>40407639
Intersting thanks
>bobs get bigger
that's crazy honestly

>>40407628
PMS or Luteal phase. Premenstrual time. Usually the shittiest part of the month for us.
Boobs swell and can hurt, our mood gets down rapidly, we are often aggressive and irritated towards our boyfriends or loved ones, hungry (diet plans crash) and acne pops up. Some women get PMDD the worse version of it and turn suicidal for week(s) before their period.

>>40407662
plz anon, im gay, stop this is obscene

>>40407188
They literally control sex and reproduction.

We used to use the, "too bad, we need kids" (cultural / soft "rape" approach by convincing women this just the way it works) when we actually had a patriarchy and not a rich fucktardarchy.

And there was always the overt rape method available for making new neonates. Still on the table today in some grim places.
But the majority of our human history was pair-bonding, maybe some free association, then let the tribe/village raise the kid when you went to your "job". Until the advent of warlords and hypergamy, I guess. Where we sort of are now... again.

>>40407686
so what would happen if men decriminalized rape and simply allowed men to take women for sex and breeding if they wanted?

>>40407691
Hmm. Couple things to point out.
The thing is, we have advanced medically where you can quickly evacuate a fetus. And birth control. And other methods.

So, we couldn't restore reproduction rates with criminality and nor... uh should we want to, unless we're OK with more kids but very damaged ones.

>>40407838
All you need to do is ban contraception.

>>40406722
not really

>>40407838
ok ban abortion, ban contraception, legalize rape
matriarchy done for now?

>>40408214
I hope!

>>40406194 (OP)
we should split the bill

>>40406194 (OP)
>would you date a man who only has downsides
why should i date this person im not going to just date anyone willing to

>>40410404
why can't you pay if my personality is charming and earns your company otherwise?

>>40410413
Um, why can't YOU also pay if MY personality is also charming and earns your company?

>>40406194 (OP)
Fuck no, if I was transitioning to play the man part I wouldn't transition at all, pamper me bitch ass, broke ass.

>>40410978
Like, if I'm already gonna give you a blowjob later and cuddle with you and maybe even play videogames together, why should I have to pay for food? That's just too much work.

>>40411001
trans women not beating the prostitution allegations

>>40411005
Yes I don't want a guy who doesn't pay, plain and simple, and other girls should wisen up and not validate this kind of behavior either, way too many broke ass abusive chasers out there, american pizza is disgusting btw, fish on pizza is disgusting.

>>40406194 (OP)
This post just reinforces my anti anchovy beliefs tbhon

>>40411031
anchovies are a hearty source of healthy fats

>>40411001
>>40411005
It starts with his lazy ass broke ass not paying for food, then evolves to his lazy ass broke ass not paying for the ring and the marriage either, I don't trust guys who don't pay.

>>40411059
I want a woman whose love doesn't cost a thing.

>>40411066
It's about relationship dynamics retard, you are only afforded the benefit of splitting the bill and maybe even NOT paying AFTER building trust and companionship, otherwise forget it.

>>40411074
you're not still jenny from the block
you've grown entitled

>>40411066
At some point you'll have to pay for something, there's nothing more pathetic than a guy who expects his partner to do everything.

>>40411099
my conversation is sparkling

>>40411109
Not if you're eating shitty greasy anchovies pizza, it's fucking not, in fact, your conversation will be the opposite of sparkling, it will be fishy with a SMELL, DISGUSTING, would NOT give a kiss afterwards.

>>40406972
>china had 14 million war deaths in WW2 and most of them were men,
Why don't the cis men just uhhhh not go kill themselves in war? At this point all this death is sounding like a choice....

>>40411149
women are mind control parasites

>>40406511
Because you retards like it? I'm not into choking women but every girl I've dated has asked me to do it

>>40411139
People PAY to see him elegantly consume that salty surprise!!
She will get queefin' and WET!
unless she's a tranny
then she'll get a chub

>>40411109
Also, why would I settle for a guy that's lazier and less of a man than I was pre-transition? When I was still a manly man I had the sense to court the girls, give them food, give them flowers and plushies, be romantic, compliment her, and so on, why would I settle for less than that?

>>40411180
you sound obsessed with toxic masculinity

>>40411182
Toxic masculinity is a whole different thing than being a romantic gentleman, a real traditional man, there's still plenty of space for that in modern day.

>>40411180
Sure, OK, malebrained troony

But she won't return any affection as you do, where you're constantly trying to prove you're a solid guy but also running the risk of looking manipulative

>>40411173
Its based never stop

>>40411441
If a guy does that for me I'll return in kind, a tight hug, a kiss, some cuddling, cleaning his home for him, I've yet to learn to get good at cooking, but I can bake cakes and prepare sandwiches and burguers, of course a blowjob too if I feel he's safe.
Absolutely no drinking though because I don't drink and I can't stand drunks.

>>40411441
I can assure you will not look manipulative, you'll look sweet.