I never tell any of my friends about this but I tend to stalk and manipulate girls I like into wanting to date me without letting them find out that's what I'm doing, I use my obsessive nature to perfectly craft responses to win them over. I would never hurt them even emotionally so I don't think this is bad, but I don't tell my friends about this because I spend months looking through girls social media posts and learning as much as I can about her and tailor myself to her preferences without directly interacting with her and then force an interaction I think would maximize my chances of success with her. It hasn't failed yet and I just outwardly seem like a normal girl who's very lucky in love, to keep up appearances a few times I have done coke and other stimulants while I did my research so I could stay up all night working on it and maximize my research and effort without interfering with my schedule so none of my friends will catch on and I can hang out with them the same amount. I don't even tell them this girl exists until after I force the interaction and I've been doing this so well for so many years that I think they'll never catch on.

hm, yeah, i'm thinking that's based.

>>40408062 (OP)
this would be based if you were HSTS

You sound like me ( albeit I'm FtM ). People are all just numbers, a fun little game to play, I enjoy treating people like individual little sims of human interaction for psychological experimentation and personal entertainment. I'll spend days researching meticulously documenting all sorts of peoples personalities, mimicking their interests, what they don't like, their deeply held values and principles, what they're living for, their vocabulary and manner of speech, the subtle ways they interact they themselves aren't even aware of, their sexual desires and what they yearn for others can't give them. I'll read books, wikis and watch autistic youtube documentaries to seem keen on niche subjects. I keep them addicted to me but always at a distance, never chatting too much, always hungry for more carefully manipulating and warping their mind. I have dozens of different ''characters'' I'll play, sometimes juxtaposed alts purposely antagonizing the person I'm having a pleasant convo with on the other end, but they'll never know while I'm giving them shoulder comfort for their mental breakdown I caused, further pulling them deeper into my little web making them reliant on me. Sometimes they'll tell me things like ''oh my dog got ran over I'm so sad'' and all I can think is if one lived close enough that could be a useful means of manipulating their emotions. I strategically pIant ideas into people's heads for months, sometimes years, isolating them from people I've convinced are no good until I'm bored and go full scorched earth leaving them alone on an edge as I put on a new mask, the only evidence of their existence in my mind - a subject number, examination and amusing result.

>>40408062 (OP)
>>40409723
one of you lacks self awareness and thinks you’re some mastermind when you’re not and the other is genuinely psychotic but i can’t be sure which is which

>>40409723
tbhon you sound like a cute liddle pooner.

I randomly let all my information publicly available and easily dox-able so they can come over to my house and kiss rape me

>>40409748
tbhon i secretly let OP think she is a mastermind but in reality she is walking into my hot sexy mtf dungeon

>>40408062 (OP)
>>40409723
sincerely hope you're both larping, this is a new low level of mental illness even for this board

>>40409778
>>40409748
OP is not comparable to >>40409723 the OP poster doesn't hurt people, the pooner likes hurting people. OP is just a smart girl who does research well.

>>40409800
liddle pooner is just an edgy dood. If liddle pooner was my friend, I would just come over his house and do something liddle pooner may get anxiety from just to mess with him

>>40409723
most mentally well woman

I relate to this quite a bit but I don't talk to the people in question. I usually find some oversharer on social media and try to amass as much information as I can about them. I'll try to find as many of their other accounts as I kind and I'll write down any personal information I can find. I've found people's addresses and jobs like this. I don't reach out to the people in question though, I just keep tabs on them.
One time I did this to someone in my city and I deliberately arranged to walk by him at a place he would be. I didn't talk to him I just wanted to see how he looked in person. He would show up to the same place once a week so I'd just go there and look at him occasionally. I never followed him or anything I just waited for him to pass by

>>40408062 (OP)
>>40409723
>>40410788
this is not normal behavior

>>40411101
probably best to assume anyone you run into online could be like this

Hello, I'm a TERF who pretends to be normal but I have a toilet rape fetish and I dream daily about being penetrated by MtF while taking a dump

>>40408062 (OP)
wow I didn't expect this thread to still be up
>>40411101
I know it's not normal but I do it out of love and yearning and I just date them and be kind and never hurt them so I don't think it's wrong, it's just making sure I'm who they want me to be.
>>40412983
you're weird

if you bottom, this is pathetic. if you top, this is really hot and i wish u were doing it to me,,,

>>40409723
Hi joe

>>40408062 (OP)
>>40409723
This is absolutely fascinating behavior. I always fear people like you, i know it's like a spectrum of how bad it can get but i try to avoid people who are even noticeably "it". Im not even sure what to call the condition, imposters, infiltration agents? Any ideas?

I have two more questions for both of you.

1. What is your base personality like? Like how is your world when no one is there and you have no one to obsess over? What are your thoughts like? Hobbies, interests, dreams etc.

2. How can i avoid people like you? Like are there any signs i can look out for?

>>40416736
OP here
>1 my personality is very hollow, I entered a depressive pit as a teenager and haven't left it. I don't have anything that makes me happy other than this one thing so I don't have genuine hobbies or interests. It's basically a high level masking technique I've built my life around, I have many irl friends and avoid having online friends because they're considered less socially valuable, and I draw and make music because other people enjoy when I show them those. I also consume whatever media the people I want to like me enjoy, and whatever is currently popular so I can use it for conversations. My entire being is essentially a social performance in order to be liked.

>2 I blend in very well because that's all I care about I don't think there's a way to avoid me other than don't be hot or interesting and live near me

This is just called borderline personality disorder

>>40417038
Why domt you leave the depressive pit. Wouldn't it be interesting to embrace solitude for a good year, find out what is hidden in your soul?
Also, can u think harder of ways that might make it possible to see your type in the wild. Im sure if you think hard enough you can figure at least one thing out

>>40417050
I think the symptoms are similar to me but it is not the same as BPD. I don't have explosive episodes or self destructive tendencies, I only really overlap in the unhealthy attachments and need to be liked. Again, I never hurt anyone and that includes myself in the process of doing these things. Situations where I've done this and it ended it has been healthy and we stayed friends until I decide to gently phase it out.

>>40417086
I don't think there is any at all, I've had friends and people in my life for years and no one has realized I do this. Maybe if you're hyper vigilant about people conforming to your interests when you mention them.
>Why domt you leave the depressive pit
I've tried various medications, I won't try therapy because I think they would look down on what I do and I like doing it. I don't think it's a possibility
>Wouldn't it be interesting to embrace solitude for a good year
I can't exist without being seen through the lens of other people like this. I tried self isolation for 2 weeks (primarily as a method of garnering sympathy to enforce the bond) and I started having severe anxiety again and entered a psychotic episode.

>>40417136
But hold on, now this IS fascinating. What if someone locked you in a room for like a few months, with no means to self harm.
Forced to confront yourself.

I wonder what would come out of that room after a few months of pure isolation.

I guess we'll never know..

OP's post is just cringe, edgy LARP.
People aren't anime villains and he's a man in a dress with internet access. He's not creating identities to seduce random girls.

>hours of research
LMAO

"Heh, she has anime profile pictures. I will now make my avatar from the same anime and tell her I like anime too. *evil chuckle* I'm such a devilish stalker... *tips fedora."

OP here. i don't have any personality or backbone and just change everything about myself in the hopes of increasing initial chances with a girl by 15%. mentally ill troon btw

>>40417181
honestly, it wouldn't be that interesting, if someone spends their whole life being liked and is self-aware about it in the way that they are, means they haven't developed anything behind the (covid) mask, you take away the people they're masking to and there'd be nothing there

would be cool if there was some super likeability-obsessed stalker who made friends with that ftm and then scorched earth them by somehow forcing them into self-isolation (powercreep fantasies of mine)

>>40417215
lol i use this trick sometimes myself, if someone is being edgy but doesn't have concrete examples to witness, i make the most humiliating and retarded version of a concrete experience they could have, and then project it onto them

>>40417237
why do you switch between so many different girls? do they catch onto you after a while (act isn't good enough for long-term)? or do you just get bored over and over again? will you ever find anything to cure your boredom?

>>40417309
>why do you switch between so many different girls? do they catch onto you after a while (act isn't good enough for long-term)? or do you just get bored over and over again? will you ever find anything to cure your boredom?
This is probably the least ethical part of this and I'm fairly ashamed to admit it but it's mainly been because I find someone "better" more conventionally attractive or has more to offer me in terms of social capital, like a larger more active social life. I've never been found out but I have been dumped before for my schedule not aligning well with theirs (work and I maintain my friend group while also in relationships).

>>40417309
btw that third post you replied to wasn't actually OP but this is
>>40417351

>>40417351
have they really been getting consistently better over time, or is it just novelty bias? like if you laid out your past 5 chicks, is it really a linear order?

also, how do you plan out the breakups so that nopony else suspects anything? after all if someone gets kicked out of 109 countries wouldn't people start to think it's their fault?

also, do you mean more attractive like more attractive to you, or more conventionally attractive so it's more of a status symbol to be dating them?

>>40417419
more conventionally attractive so it's more of a status symbol, and yes I think I've consistently dated up.

the break ups are again not something I enjoy admitting to because it is fairly manipulative and not kind, but what I tend to do is just slowly disengage more and more for about a month or 2 and then my break ups I just say that I think we've been drifting apart recently and we're just different people but I would still like to be friends. when you break up in a way that appears healthy and usually remain friends it looks a lot better on you.

>>40416736
2. Just have obscure challenging interests that take thousands of hours of practice. Anything that allows you to filter out posers without hard-earned domain knowledge and skills will work.

>>40417453
lol, literally, this is why the autist beats psychopath because the autist's hyperfixations (when skill-based) filter out psychopath likability-obsessed posers

psychopath beats normie because the psychopath games the normie's social intuition and vibes

normie beats autist because the autist just isn't forceful enough and doesn't have the social skills or social power to impose on the normie, but the normie imposes his rules on the autist from a sense of superiority that comes from social conformity

>>40417215
/thread

>>40417625
discord mods on the top

>>40417625
Epic. My autism is my superpower. (Real)

>>40409723
i'm getting the vibes that you definitely cosplay Junko Enoshima and get mad when people don't call you a boy when your tits are out huh

>>40408062 (OP)
need

>>40408062 (OP)
This thread is another example of why I'm a social recluse. Most of y'all aren't good people (not this board in particular but humans in general). People who are good people are the people I put my time into, not weirdos like you and the other person ITT talking about how people are numbers or w/e. I actually have moral values and don't play games.

>>40422014
most people are decent, it's just that the most obnoxious attention whores are the loudest. plus you can usually tell that these people are undesirable right off the bat if you're not a teenager and/or braindead
they're pussies who've never been punched in the face so they're up their own asses

>>40417215
>"Heh, she has anime profile pictures. I will now make my avatar from the same anime and tell her I like anime too. *evil chuckle* I'm such a devilish stalker... *tips fedora."
kek

>>40408062 (OP)
>>40409723
gas yourselves, we dont want you, we dont need you

>>40417050
took the words right out of my mouth and i only had to read the first line

>>40408062 (OP)
>>40409723
I've been interested recently in programmatically assembling psychological dossiers and social network analyses based on Jungian psychoanalysis and rhetorical theory (Kenneth Burke, McLuhan, etc). My idea involves providing guided interpretative templates for a locally hosted DeepSeek LLM to run on unique posters in discords/on Twitter, then assessing the most valuable or conspicuous persons in a space to rope them into more direct purposes. If you're interested, drop a discord handle.

>>40409348
no. moids ruin everything

>>40413442
>I just date them
Following someone around isn't dating them