Thread 40648817

why are there people on this board unironically talking about bullshit like sexual market value and posting MGTOW graphics. what does that have to do with being lesbian gay bisexual and transgender. are you people even any of those things? why are you here?!

women are overly privileged and are damagingly cruel to men
women lead easy lives where men do everything for them

>>40648817 (OP)
Tourists and dedicated autists

>>40648825
WHY ARE YOU HERE FREAK
GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE

it's the "T" part of LGBT that invites all of the heterosexual bullshit

>>40648817 (OP)
I mean even governments are now forced to admit all that shit was right all along and the cause of dropping birth rates.

>>40648829
it’s true, people only recognize obvious violence and not the social violence for which women evolved

>>40648829
to point out that women are awful monsters harming others
emotional abuse is primarily done by women, and isn't really seen as criminal - because women designed the system and want it that way

>>40648887
>women designed for men to bully each other to date or straight up rape each other to death in every male space like school, prisons and barracks

>>40648900
violence done by men is done at the behest of women
women orchestrate society

>>40648845
>men are turning into the hitler youth
>"this is actually women's fault"
birth rates are failing because everything is too fucking expensive and raising a child is unaffordable for many people.
also a lot of modern men are just repugnant because they bought into manosphere bullshit and women don't want to date someone like that. look at south korea - a developed country with awful birth rates primarily because women have sworn off even dating men since they're hardcore chauvinists.
the reason so many third worlders breed like crazy is because they need more people for labor, have shitty contraception, and lots of babies and young children die. birth rates aren't tanking in the developed world because some women want a guy with a slightly strong jawline, they're tanking because
>we don't need wageslaves like africa/india
>a lot of men see women as an alien species and treat them as such
>women don't need men to survive anymore and also aren't expected to have children like they used to be so there's less of a desire to settle down and have a white picket fence life
>raising even one kid is very expensive, and frankly there's nothing much to bring a child into the world for now

>>40648918
I could believe that female space lizards secretly act as the puppet masters of the entire human race. But human women no.

>>40648918
if women orchestrate society why aren't you some amazon's bitchboy getting pegged every night

>>40648921
>birth rates are failing because everything is too fucking expensive and raising a child is unaffordable for many people.
me when im in the 6th century surrounded by black death, volcanic winter, and famine, but still pumping out kids like crazy

>>40648921
>birth rates are failing because everything is too fucking expensive and raising a child is unaffordable for many people.
no it isn't. This hypothesis, which is the only competing hypothesis to the red pill shit, is so absurd on the face of it. We're talking about the richest people in the richest period of the history of mankind. And despite that, governments have been throwing money their way for years with ever increasing grants and benefits to help couples. It's not helping.

So that just leaves one theory.

>>40648817 (OP)
I became gay because women don't find average dudes attractive. That's why.

>>40648930
see my point about third worldies. in the middle ages people had lots of kids for the same reasons - death in infancy was common and the rich needed more serfs for labor. you bred like rabbits because out of the 12 kids you had 3 or 4 might survive and grow up healthy.
they were drinking literal shit water and had no medicine, mortality rates were bad.

>>40648944
Correlation doesn't equal causation. The red pill hypothesis would also explain why medieval people had more kids.

>>40648939
NTA but I remember reading that birth rates are falling in Japan because people literally don't have time to look after a child anymore. Worldwide we're seeing a trend of most people's lives just becoming wake up -> work -> bed -> repeat with some free time in the evenings or weekends.
>Japan's low birth rate is a multifaceted issue,stemming from a combination of socio-economic and cultural factors.Economic stagnation, rising living costs, and a demanding work culture make it difficult for couples to afford and prioritize raising children.Additionally, traditional gender roles and societal expectations place a heavy burden on women, often forcing them to choose between career and motherhood.
https://sites.lsa.umich.edu/mje/2024/04/10/the-socioeconomics-of-japanese-birth-decline/
>People are having fewer children, or delaying parenthood,due to a combination of economic, social, and personal factors.These include the rising costs of raising a child, career aspirations, shifting gender roles, and concerns about the future.Additionally, some individuals are facing challenges in finding a suitable partner or are experiencing health and fertility issues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g7x5kl5l8o

>>40648955
i don't know what the "red pill hypothesis" is anon

>>40648977
I'm just using it to encompass what OP is referring to.

>>40648965
Your citation cites multiple causes, including the ones cited by red pill theorists. As for money as a cause, I think it's safe to say it's been debunked as every government now for some time have been throwing money at couples and it's not working. Why insist it's still about money?

>>40648928
im not a woman nor attracted to them?
I just want to expose them as the evil manipulators they really are. Society would be much more prosperous if women were shot in the face for bullying and abusing men.

>>40648989
i'm not insisting it's about money, i'm saying that money is a big factor in the pie chart of why people aren't having kids. a lot of people literally just do not want kids. the societal expectation to have them has pretty much vanished for a lot of people.
also idk what it's like in your area but there's nowhere for kids to really be anymore. malls and parks and youth clubs have vanished or are in disrepair and nobody cares about fixing that. why have a kid if it can't even have a decent life outside of being glued to an ipad?

>>40649004
>im not a woman nor attracted to them
Yeah we can tell lil bro

>>40649017
>i'm saying that money is a big factor
it's literally been proven to be the LEAST likely explanation. The treatment(more money) has been tried in every country and it hasn't been working. It's insane to continue claiming that it's still a likely cause.

>malls and parks and youth clubs
irrelevant since no one thinks about that when deciding to have a kid. The main thing people consider is their current partner. Not which mall they'll travel to when they're 15.

Women are privileged and I transitioned for that privilege

>>40649046
thanks for admitting it

>>40649046
How's that working out for you hon

>>40649097
Good I have a boyfriend who takes care of me while I get to be his pet. I'm a kitten who gets to relax all day and occasionally get dick

>>40648829
Gay men are brutally honest about women, because they don't need to cater to them.

>>40649146
That's not really being a woman though. That's just being a male prostitute.

>>40649156
If I am not a woman then why are my boobs so perky and my ass so fat?

>>40649155
society is just men catering to evil, antisocial women who love using men as playthings

>>40649173
Because you took hrt to fulfill your MEF fantasies?
Idgaf if you look like Margot Robbie, you have a terminally male brain. But that was obvious when you said you thought being a woman was unironically privileged.

>>40649187
>getting a bunch of money without having to work for it isn't privilege because....uhm...it just isn't ok???!!!

>>40649187
>But that was obvious when you said you thought being a woman was unironically privileged.

it's true that a key part of being fembrained is believing with your heart and soul that you're always the victim of every situation and never once feeling grateful for a single thing in your blessed fucking life

>>40649187
Being a woman is privilege. I was born male so I know how much of a blessing it is.
Idc what you think because you are low iq

>>40649197
Point to a case where this has happened to a woman who wasn't an Onlyfans content creator. An average ordinary woman.
>>40649205
>>40649209
You are literally trading in beginner mode for nightmare mode. Once you hit the wall you'll see what I mean. Don't come crying to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>40648921
>birth rates are failing because everything is too fucking expensive
That never stopped people before. Look at Africa, look at the Americain poor, look at the Irish.

>>40649228
>Point to a case where this has happened to a woman who wasn't an Onlyfans content creator.
are you actually denying the existence of women living off of the wealth of simps/husbands? That's just being obstinate. Obviously not EVERY woman is like that, but it is possible to be that by virtue of being a woman, and it's a common enough of a phenomenon, we're not talking about unicorns here.

>>40649228
>You are literally trading in beginner mode for nightmare mode. Once you hit the wall you'll see what I mean. Don't come crying to me
Being a woman is easy mode, being a man is nightmare
>>40649228
>Point to a case where this has happened to a woman who wasn't an Onlyfans content creator. An average ordinary woman.
They could just find a normal guy to settle down with instead of being a whore

>>40649261
>its common enough of a phenomenom
Yeah because men literally fight to own women like property. It's not a privilege to live in a gilded cage.

>>40649266
>it's not happening
>ok it's happening but it's still the fault of men somehow
goalpost moved. And it's cope to say being rich is being owned. The simp wagie husband is more owned by his employer.

You need to stop with the victim mentality, we're not talking about child brides in 3rd world countries. The fact you refuse to recognize the difference means you're obstinate.

Reading through this thread I can't blame those feminists online or offline who hate men like they do. These men post like some stinking troll who never left his bridge, I'd hate them and quite a lot of men as well were I a woman reading this shit.

>>40649365
someone post the meme about detecting misogynists online vs offline

>>40649291
women and trannies both have a constant victim mentality

>>40649209
You're annoying, retarded AGPoid

dunno what people accomplish trying to gaslight against the existence of gendered treatment in an anonymous image board. Anyone who went to college in the US could observe female-only scholarships and programs which still exist despite higher education being majority female since ~1980. I understand that saying that makes me a chud incel misogynist but that kind of social shaming doesn't work, again, on an anonymous website.

>>40649673
men are the ones teaching other men that 90% of degrees are useless and that you just need to sigma grind / hustle / join the military instead. Women choose to ignore the sigma advice and study humanities instead. I guess it's a privilege to not be retarded dupes.

>>40649673
women hurt men
WOMEN HURT MEN
women love hurting men
women hate men
women sabotage men
women psychologically destroy men
women are a weapon
women are mass destruction

>>40649702
>billions of examples of men sabotaging/raping/murdering other men
vs
>esoteric claims about secret shadow agendas of women controlling the history of mankind

>>40649754
our very language is set up to demonize male sexuality and glorify the nature of the female
this runs deep
why would women want their misdeeds amplified and shared?
women are the queens of keeping secrets

>>40649173
because you took exogenous hormones?
lol

>>40649365
I wish people that disagreed made good counterarguments but instead reinforce the other one by chanting,
"Mmmm bridge troll! Touch a grass! Incel!!!"

>>40649855
Isn't that kind of the point - like their viewpoint is so dominant and powerful that they don't even have to try to make a rational argument?

>>40649236
The difference there is support. Historically, the onus of childrearing has not exclusively fallen on the parents. There were stronger communities, and life was predictable enough that tradition was a generally good guide to raising children. But as the rate of technological process has increased, and as the muzzle has been taken off the ruling class, communities have been torn apart, people are separated from their cultural roots, and the advice parents give to their children is outdated. Think about how boomers say stuff like “just bother an employer until they hire you” or “just go and get a degree and get a good job.” AI is about to completely change every aspect of life, and it’s impossible to know what is in store, or how to survive it. Most people are in an eternal quest for subsistence, and they’re embarking on this quest either completely alone, or in a miniscule family unit if they’re lucky. Humanity has seen nothing like the moment we’re in now. The kings of biblical antiquity are as powerful as mcdonalds franchise owners compared to the likes of Blackstone, Palantir, or Bill Gates.

>>40649954
>Historically, the onus of childrearing has not exclusively fallen on the parents.
That's a crock of shit. Comparing a silent generation family to a millennial family, between craigslist Mexican Nana's,tutors, and people having less children on average, each child today has more support individually than the 12+ kids that the 1920s backwoods family pumped out.
The difference is obvious when you study the mouse utopia experiment.

>>40649954
communism is based

>>40650347
I don’t think you’re grasping how important community was to our ancestors, and how much was lost when the industrial revolution stripped it away. The context, the culture, the tradition, it was all burned away over time and now there’s very little left. Hiring a handful of gig workers to help your kids—if you can afford it—is not comparable to that.

>>40648918
*violence is done by men at the behest of other men who tell them that it will get them pussy
There, fixed that for you

>>40650748
>don’t think you’re grasping how important community was to our ancestors
On contrary, the mouse utopia experiment perfectly shows what happened to the community atmosphere you are alluding to. It's not the industrial revolution, it's the ambulance of food and pleasure that the industrial revolution enabled.

>>40649146
>occasionally
Estrogen nuked your sex drive?

>>40650347
>when you study the mouse utopia experiment.
does he know?

>>40651025
no, tell him

>>40650811
this is why people don't take female supremacists seriously because you believe females cannot have agency for malicious actions at all and cannot influence men negatively, ever

>>40648817 (OP)
sophie you're a hon stfu

>>40648817 (OP)
>what does that have to do with being
>lesbian
Those are usually femreppers and femreppers hate themselves and other women
>gay
Envious and hate women in general because they only got an asshole and no pussy
>bisexual
i think bifags (both male and female) care the least
>transgender
envy for mtfs, wanting to be one of the doods/pickmeism for ftms

>>40648817 (OP)
men's rights say a lot of bullshit but some of it is good. SMV is a pretty useful concept. also i really doubt you'd have problems with discussions of feminism. (which btw is also mostly bullshit but sometimes says ok stuff)
nonetheless, it's relevant because i'm amab and i fucking hate the way people treat me and other amabs. i fucking hated the stuff forced on me when i was a kid.
i hated the fact people pretended that pain and alienation and confusion wasn't real, and that i was even the evil one causing pain to women. when most of the stuff i was suspect of as a male were shit women did all the time to me!
i had to get over so much guilt and self-hatred because of this shit, thinking i was evil for being male and that women were fuller people than me. fuck 99.9% of feminists, they are unironically disgusting people.
t. MtNB

>>40648817 (OP)
blackpill makes you gay, turns out staring down pictures of hot men does unlocks something in them

>>40648817 (OP)
who could've imagined there are gay misogynists on the famously misogynist website's gay board

>>40655308
misogyny doesn't exist
women are too powerful for negative opinions of them to matter at all

>>40655322
t. terrified of the matriarchy

>>40648921
korean men are literal slaves. you're fucking brainwashed.

women are terrible people

>>40648817 (OP)
like it or not, redpill concepts are the way sexual attraction actually works
incels are an actually oppressed minority and women are the oppressors

Women don't like me so I sought intimacy in whatever way I could, I'm sorry you normgroids can't understand that

>>40648817 (OP)
Incels are part of the LGBTQIA+ label now. I thought you guys were inclusive?

>>40658511
women are universal oppressors
they are petty tyrants with a perpetual axe to grind
women can magically remember anything you have ever done or said that could be used against you for decades

The one thing I'm looking forward to when society finally collapses in the coming decades is women being put back in their rightful place. No more pill and no more easy abortions. No more sex with drug dealer Tyrone and his 28 friends.

>>40658540
Yeah revoking the 19th and beyond will be pretty fucking awesome