Thread 40855149

Being gay legit makes me want to kms. How do you people wake up every morning knowing full well that you're a bunch of filthy degenerate aberrations and just carry on like you're not? Like how do you know constantly feel so disgusted with yourselves that you want to crawl out of your skin? This shit is fully corroding my soul.

>>40855149 (OP)
You just kind of get used to it. Life isn’t that long and it isn’t a big deal.

>>40855149 (OP)
i miss frank

>>40855247
as the emperor of /lgbt/ (which i have declared myself just now) im going to have to request you to stop posting, permanently

>>40855149 (OP)
I understand people hating trannies on the basis of "REE MESSING WITH NATURE/GOD'S CREATION" but what's so wrong about being gay? Gay animals exist. It's natural. Degens exist everywhere. Women, men, gays, straights, blacks, whites, etc. Why does it matter? You're not a degenerate for being gay. You're a degenerate because you are a degenerate.

>>40855149 (OP)
because it's completely normal and exists in nature in hundreds of species?

assigning morality to sexual orientation is gigaretarded

get over it faggot

>>40855999
>>40856000
homosexuality in wild animals (especially primates) is done literally exclusively as an act of humiliation via rape

>>40855149 (OP)
I don't really get the big deal, honestly. There are so many worse things a person could be. There isn't anything inherently awful or gross about a man wanting to be with a man or a woman wanting to be with a woman. Like obviously there are ways it isn't IDEAL compared to being straight, but how many people really have an ideal life? And there are pluses to balance out the minuses, too, if you find the right people and do it right

You could've gotten worse dice-rolls. Why all the drama? What's so unbearable about it?

>>40855149 (OP)
I learned to stop worrying and love being a filthy degenerate aberration, you're here forever, there's nothing you can do about it so just try to have fun

>>40856019
no it's not this is entirely made up
same sex pair bonds exist in nature? not just gay sex
pls deepthroat a shotgun at ur earliest convenience xx

>>40855149 (OP)
Realize we are not degenerates, normal people are just as boring as glaciers.

Idk ig the same way how normies dont feel disgusted that they have sex, or that our parents had sex, its just being human
When i walk down the street with my bf and i hold his hand and he looks into my eyes with such an expression of love, i actually think how can you find this even disgusting at all

>>40855969
As Emily of 4chan, who was in the beginning, is now and every shall be, a shitpost without end, I have to tell you to go fuck yourself you unbelievable faggot, amen.

>>40855149 (OP)
>Being gay legit makes me want to kms
wow maybe you should

>>40856340
based

>>40855999
The same logic that makes trannies disgusting to Christians applies to homosexuals as well. Men were clearly created for women, that's why gay sex is so impractical and harmful for your health. Gay animals exist but humans are supposed to be above animals and abide by a set of standards above what animals are held to. We're supposed to have morality.

>>40856000
Literally everything is natural if you look long enough. Eating shit is natural. Eating your kids is natural. Fucking your kids is natural. Interspecies mating is natural. Cancer is natural.
That doesn't any of this stuff is good or excusable or OK morally, it's just natural.
Sex is inextricably linked to morality. Otherwise you'd think bestiality and necrophilia and incest and pedophilia are A-OK. That kind of lawlessness or lack of right or wrong would subvert the entire purpose of building a society.

The conceit of this argument is that straight people stand in contrast to the fucked up degeneracy, rather than being complicit in it. In fact it's hardly ever hounded by anyone that isn't complicit in some degeneracy and use the witch hunt as a smokescreen for their own shame and disgust at themselves.

Well they do cope with drugs and often kill themselves. They're 90% abhorrent whore psychopaths after all.

>>40856042
>What's so unbearable about it?
aids? dating? homophobia? douching? loneliness? unrequited love? take your pick.

>>40856340
>normies dont feel disgusted that they have sex, or that our parents had sex
what if I do…

casual sex
situationships
cheating
swinging
divorce

straightoids also engage in constant degeneracy, might as well just say fuck you and live your life like the rest of the cattle

>>40856787
yeah but they don't have to do that. being straight isn't inherently against the order of nature the way faggotry is

>>40856710
>we're supposed to have morality
Hypocrisy, it took humans to invent inhumanity and certainly no animal has exerted anything near the sadistic butchery on humans or each other as people have even if you account for population ratios.
>>40856710
>sex is inextricably linked to morality
morality is linked to whatever we want to link it to, this is the same tired argument as saying everything is political, just because it can be viewed through that lens doesn't make them inseparable concepts. And arguing the only issue with pedophilia is the fact that it's sexual is wild. By that logic child abuse is a okay until you get hard.
>That kind of lawlessness or lack of right or wrong would subvert the entire purpose of building a society.
yes your invented narrative does sound pretty bad, but the argument is that homosexual urges are natural, or to be more specific not a damaging abnormality/mutation, so considering there's little concrete data to suggest it is damaging to anyone maybe you should start asking yourself how damaging your behavior is to society before crying foul of people doing things in the privacy of their own home. You can understand the concept when it comes to being allowed to do what YOU want on your property, why is that out of the window the moment someone different than you is doing it? And additionally how do you go from saying "men were clearly created for women" as a justification of your point (never even mind the proposition that this somehow explains gay sex being "harmful") to "it being natural is not a real argument"? Your principles seem to shift the moment they're no longer rhetorically useful.

>>40856787
Let's not even beat around the bush, it's okay... Cishets are the exact people engaging in incestuous relationships, beating or flat out torturing kids, fatherless households and broken homes, discriminating against their own children, having too many babies than which they can afford, and God forbid family vlogging, joining and having kids while in cults, or protecting kids in the family that molest your other kids (Duggars). Some straight people will be hoarders with 7 cats and pathways throughout the house and see 0 issue raising a kid in the 6ft clutter, while being completely fooled but Uncle Molester and will allow this unusually eager person around their kids.
They're on thin ice, the worst gays have are the occasional serial killer pedo, bug chasing, drugs, and idk drag queens?

>>40856793
>it took humans to invent inhumanity
This was done for a pointed reason. Human survival hinges on cooperation which can only be maintained by some sort of agreed upon code of conduct. This is where morality emerges.
>and certainly no animal has exerted anything near the sadistic butchery on humans or each other as people have even if you account for population ratios.
I wouldn't claim that so certainly but even if we pretended it were undeniable fact, it's irrelevant. What animals do is irrelevant. That's... kinda the whole point here.

>sex is inextricably linked to morality
morality is linked to whatever we want to link it to,
Yeah. Another example of The Point. All we do is held to moral standards. No actions are exempt lest the purpose of morality by negated. Everything one does fits into one of the three categories of virtuous, amoral or immoral.
>this is the same tired argument as saying everything is political,
Anon...
>just because it can be viewed through that lens doesn't make them inseparable concepts.
Just because the concepts are distinct from one another doesn't mean they aren't intrinsically linked.
>And arguing the only issue with pedophilia is the fact that it's sexual is wild. By that logic child abuse is a okay until you get hard.
I never argued that, I merely provided other examples of sexual immorality.
>>That kind of lawlessness or lack of right or wrong would subvert the entire purpose of building a society.

>>40856793
>>40856901
>yes your invented narrative does sound pretty bad, but the argument is that homosexual urges are natural, or to be more specific not a damaging
But can the argument be soundly made that homosexuality isn't harmful given all that's come as a consequence of it?
>abnormality/mutation, so considering there's little concrete data to suggest it is damaging to anyone
There exists quite a lot of data highlighting the many various ways in which homosexuality harms and kills, actually.
>maybe you should start asking yourself how damaging your behavior is to society before crying foul of people doing things in the privacy of their own home.
Homosexuals: famous for engaging in perfectly normal sex acts in the privacy of their own homes.
>You can understand the concept when it comes to being allowed to do what YOU want on your property, why is that out of the window the moment someone different than you is doing it?
???
I abide by the same moral principles I apply to others. Where did this come from?
>And additionally how do you go from saying "men were clearly created for women" as a justification of your point (never even mind the proposition that this somehow explains gay sex being "harmful") to "it being natural is not a real argument"?
I'm showcasing the multiple levels on which you are wrong; nature is not indicative of morality because morality applies to human action, but also, it's not even 'natural' in the way you say it is. Gay sex results in disease and incontinence, not healthy, viable offspring.
>Your principles seem to shift the moment they're no longer rhetorically useful.
They're pretty static, you're just examining them too selectively.

>>40856883
So gays killed moms and sissies killed dads, so gays and sissies should have gotten together.

?

>>40856925
>killed moms
>killed dads
???

>>40856072
>you're here forever
well you're only here for like 9 decades max, then you're gone. small possibility you're Elsewhere forever after that. maybe the things you do during your near-century here dictate where your Elsewhere is.

>>40855149 (OP)
>This shit is fully corroding my soul.
I was openly gay for 12 years and had to stop at 27, because, yes, it corrodes the soul. What nobody wants to tell you is that homosexuality comes from a serious attachment problem and if you keep practising homosexuality you will become empty, lifeless and disconnected. I've been in therapy for 6 years now and I'm basically done with gay sex, I'm not interested in it.
Read pic related.

>>40858231
What do you do in therapy that made you lose interest in gay sex entirely?

>>40855149 (OP)
What's more degenerate? Gay monogamous couple that spend their whole lives together or straight whore with triple digit body count with no shame? Being straight doesn't automatically make you any less of a degenerate

>>40858287
they're both bad but the gay couple is markedly worse.

>>40858272
Mostly processed the fact that my parents were morally stunted and had me under their narcissistic spell. They needed me to be a weak effeminate boy to feel better about themselves. This is through EMDR. After processing, I was able to take a different attitude to how I relate to them, no longer letting them push me down, feeling released from their grip so I can grow as a man. Clock that tea.

>>40858332
>They needed me to be a weak effeminate boy to feel better about themselves.

finding this uncomfortably relatable

>>40858287
Its not really about what you actually do but the psychological basis behind it. Straightoids can be sluts and so can homos but the point is more does being gay in itself involve being warped in some way. I think not always but any abberant sexuality is always going to come from some place of abnormality somewhere

Anyone here familar with side b christians?

>>40858364
Nobody's born gay, brother. Gay sex is an attempt to pull yourself out from underneath the parents' grip (particularly the mother's). It can never satisfy because it's an illusion. Work on becoming a man and you won't need to have sex with one.

>>40858485
>>40858364
>>40858272

>>40858477
not until just now

>>40858332
Where can I undergo reparative therapy? Also why is the US trying so hard to make it illegal?

>>40858485
>using pseudoscientifical investigation as a proof
Observational evidence cannot be taken seriously as it is always biased, for instance my experience was different, I was born weak, and everyone blamed my parents for how I was, thinking they spoiled me for coddling me, but then I started observing the same pattern on different families with different environments that would only affect how the kid would react but not how they'd feel, that is, depending on how accepting their parents were and how rebelious they were at infancy, kids would grow into a wide spectrum of homosexuality, from the most discrete to the most obnoxious, there's no discernible cause other than biological.

>>40858595
>Where can I undergo reparative therapy
What you want is what's now called Reintegrative Therapy. Clue yourself up on narcissistic family dynamics. Read the book I posted. If you can't get a RT therapist then find a talk therapist whose beliefs are in line with yours and go from there. You will need God's help - my recovery journey has been exhausting at times and the funds for my therapy were miraculously given to me.

>Why is the US trying so hard to..
Because gay men are weak - they give up their masculine strength for comfort. This is useful to wicked people. Not to mention they kill themselves with drugs, suicide, HIV etc.

>>40858623
>I was born weak
What do you mean?

>>40855149 (OP)
i’ve given up on ever finding love

>>40858643
Several health problems including heart, pulmonary system and varicella at birth , had to be revived and kept on an incubator for two months, couldn't be breastfed and until 5 I was under medical observation and heavy medication.

>>40858718
That's a lot, and it would contribute to serious relational problems like I mentioned. Not just how you relate to your parents but also yourself. Presumably your body was smaller than other boys' also? Sorry to hear you had such a tricky start.

>>40855149 (OP)
Reality is a filthy degenerate aberration. The only way to approach an accord with it is by becoming as irrational and perverse as life itself.

>>40858485
Ah so this is why ive been a neet forever and am now a tranny, makes sense

>>40855149 (OP)
You like peen bro, it ain't that complicated.

>>40858734
Yes, I was always at a physical disadvantage, it fits with your narrative and I used to firmly believe that was the cause but then I met other people and their lifes were so different from mine, completely normal childhoods, no health problems and some even with outstanding physique, there's no correlation.

>>40858485
why the fuck is the brain so retarded. like the inputs never fucking correlate to the outputs in any way that makes sense. it's never like

>input
my mother is overbearing
>output
I should grow increasingly resentful of my mother in order to incentivize distancing for my own preservation

instead it's always like

>input
my mother is overbearing
>output
I should suck dick and take it up the ass

>>40858792
>completely normal childhoods
What they or you think is normal might not be so necessarily

>no health problems
Not always a factor

>outstanding physique
Outward appearance doesn't make a man a man

>My parents coddled me
I mean this right here is your problem. You didn't have a good start, but coddling you was more for your parents' benefit than yours. They failed to feed you spiritually and help you grow, taking risks, to become a man. Instead they kept you close to feel better about themselves. It's understandable given your situation and I do suspect there is more to it, for example if you felt insecure about your size/health did you at least feel you could go to your dad and share your grievances?

>>40858850
>I should grow increasingly resentful of my mother
lol. Young children attempt to do so but they know they won't survive. So they feel sorry for her instead.

>>40858739
bunch of flowery pseudointellectual philosophical-sounding nonsense. reality is, by definition, not an aberration.

>>40855149 (OP)
I accept that I was put on this earth to protect the delicate heart of a bottom and I move on with my day.

>>40858540
This rings true to me. My faggot behavior started after I stopped being able to form healthy relationships with other boys and started being bad at sports and didnt know how to talk to girls. I remember clearly at one point just trying to accept that it wasn't possible for me to be a normal boy and that I wasn't masculine and decided to identify with femininity instead and befriend girls instead of trying to date them. This plus my cold detached parents who never took an interest in me has lead me on a downward spiral to becoming a tranny

>>40859165
I'm so sorry to hear that. It's incredibly common. I had a very similar experience but when I had feelings of wanting to be a girl, I was able to rationalise that it was impossible. I chose instead to try to be more boy-ish, failing most of the time but still being able to be perceived as straight by most people.

>>40858540
>>40859165
These are the best kind of bottoms.

>>40859165
for me my faggotry appeared when i was like 3 or 4, really really early on. i literally had crushes on other preschoolers and male cartoon characters on tv. i was also raised by a real nutcase of a single mother and i've always wondered if those two things are connected.

>>40858485
>>40858540
This is just bottoms though. What about tops?
I for one only started being into effeminate guys when I started working out heavily. I'm also natty so it's not a roid thing.

>>40858874
I am not the problem anon, I knew what I was from a very early age, I am simply saying that it is easy to come to that conclusion, external indirect factors cannot define a kid's sexuality.

>>40859369
I read the book and there is a part that says around 20% of gays are "normal" and are able to act like men and are comfortable in their own skin, basically the straight acting tops because their emotional wounds occur later and their relationship to their own gender develops normally.

>>40855149 (OP)
the trick is to not be Christian. You can just drop the belief in your fake god and fake religion and sgop3being a whiny bitch

Hehe this was your enemy and your savior.

Amazing! Once our flying air ships reach levitation we will have no more homosexuality.

Though, we'll likely have been in our second sexual revolution... So be careful of what you've done or you'll be sold on the Internet.

>>40856366
old faggot

>>40856906
Retard.
>But can the argument be soundly made that homosexuality isn't harmful
The first mistake you make here is conflating the "harmful" with the "immoral". Under a standard christcuckian perspective the immoral is harmful, but the harmful is not necessarily immoral. Exercising too much is harmful (it can lead to lesions and health issues). Is it immoral? Eating a bit too little is harmful, is it immoral? Even if we presume that it is true that homosexuality is harmful, you have not proven it immoral, retardoid.
Suppose two monogamous homos, all they do is kiss and frot, at which risk of harm are them? None, so homosexuality isn't even inherently harmful.
>There exists quite a lot of data highlighting the many various ways in which homosexuality harms and kills, actually.
As of now, the life expectancy of homosexuals has surpassed that of straight men. How do you cope, retard?
The "harmfulness of homosexuality" is a practical problem, subject to a practical solution, in this case the simple use of condoms.
>nature is not indicative of morality
Congratulations on being right about one (1) thing retard, a shame you are right for the wrong reasons. Nature is not indicative of anything not because humans are god's specialest little guys but because everything is natural and so appeals to nature lead to contradictions being thus invalid.
>s not even 'natural' in the way you say it is
Retard. Natural doesn't mean "the good and healthy things". Viruses and cancer are natural as is rape.
>Gay sex results in disease and incontinence
A practical problem, subject to a practical solution. Did you know that women, just by existing, have a risk of developing incontinence that is as high as the most intensely ass wrecking faggots? Why did the wise god do this?

>>40858485
>>40858540
Of all retarded pseudosciences, psychoanalysis has to be the most laughable kek

>>40861751
>Suppose two monogamous homos, all they do is kiss and frot, at which risk of harm are them? None, so homosexuality isn't even inherently harmful.
Gays have a lot of emotional problems that affects the wider community. They're also more likely to smoke, do drugs, be promiscuous, because of said emotional problems.