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Anonymous No.41349776 [Report] >>41349793 >>41349797 >>41349834 >>41349858 >>41350929 >>41351351 >>41352205 >>41353564 >>41353654 >>41355573 >>41355791
I'm 100% convinced that troons who would turn into a cis girl if ever given the chance are trutrans and ones who wouldn't are AGP. Being a tranny fucking sucks and the only reason I started HRT was so that my body could at least approximate that of a woman's. Who the fuck would actually want this?
Anonymous No.41349793 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
stop yapping woman and show me your BOOBIES
Anonymous No.41349797 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
you are exactly correct. any tranny who doesnt wish they were cis is faketrans
Anonymous No.41349834 [Report] >>41350957 >>41351099 >>41352205 >>41355791 >>41356038
>>41349776 (OP)
Wanting to be female is actually a hallmark of AGP. 99% of AGPs wish they were cis women.

The small percent that are just want to be feminized males are AGAMPs, they're turned on by the thought of themselves as a feminized male vs turned on by the thought of themselves as female. The two often coexist but true AGAMPs are rarer (they're usually the boomerhons sissyposting on reddit).

Ppl on this board like to strawman Blanchard but when u dig down with gynephilic trans women almost all of them admit to AGP in some form. People usually claim that the fact they get turned on by fantasizing about being female is a result of their innate female gender identity leaking out but it makes a lot more sense that the sexual predilection is the driving force behind the dysphoria. I can't prove it but I would bet almost everything that 90+% of gynephilic trans women are AGP. troons hate Blanchard because he is right.
Anonymous No.41349858 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
im faketrans agp transbian and i would push the button that turns me into a real woman instantly
violet No.41350929 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
Ruka deserved so much better :( still makes me sad
Anonymous No.41350957 [Report]
>>41349834
>Wanting to be female is actually a hallmark of AGP.
you've drastically lost the plot here, i think.
violet No.41350967 [Report]
I wish I was a real woman... bro it's just simply over lol
Anonymous No.41350991 [Report] >>41351075
>picrel is a character that would rather be a man and live in reality than to run from reality for their own personal gain at the expense of others
interesting you would do that
violet No.41351075 [Report] >>41351173 >>41355843
>>41350991
That's not accurate to the anime at least.
She had to choose between either being a man or one of her best friends dying. Also from her perspective at that part of the story, she had been a cis woman her whole life (due to the world line shift). So technically the Ruka that sacrificed being a woman to save Mayuri wasn't even trans. It's a complicated and difficult hypothetical, I'm not sure what I would do if I was in her position
Anonymous No.41351099 [Report]
>>41349834
>People usually claim that the fact they get turned on by fantasizing about being female is a result of their innate female gender identity leaking out but it makes a lot more sense that the sexual predilection is the driving force behind the dysphoria. I can't prove it but I would bet almost everything that 90+% of gynephilic trans women are AGP.
I'll make a confession: I'm pretty sure I'm true AGP. When I was a prepubescent child, I had weird pre-AGP thoughts: obsessions with questions like "What does having a vagina and not a penis feel like? What do [insert x women's clothes] even feel like? What would it be like to be a girl? What would it be like to be that woman?" I did not feel "I am a girl, there must be a misclassification, why is my body wrong" but that I was a boy who was just desperately curious about what being a girl was like to the point of hoping magic wishes were real. Literally, I would think about it, imagining it for hours some days. I would sometimes wish before bed that I would wake up as a girl, but only for a day in case I didn't like it.
This led to me consuming genderbending fiction and media, and this became the sexual AGP fetish, and I would read AGP erotica usually.
I tried to get rid of it as a teenager, but unsuccessfully. I'm pretty sure I just had the wrong wires crossed at a critical time, the same way people with foot fetishes had weird formative experiences with feet as a kid that led to their fetish.
Any sort of actual, physical dysphoria did not happen until I was around 18, and I guess it was just too late by then.
But I'm pretty much how Blanchard describes AGPs. Dysphoria that only happens as an adult emerging from a weird obsessive sexual fetish that grows out of control, and not any sort of innate feeling of femaleness.
Anonymous No.41351129 [Report] >>41351171
I trooned cause I would've pushed the button. Literally no therapy no talking to anyone else I ordered bathtub estrogen and now we're here.
I guess I'm fake trans but I'd still push the button every picosecond of the day.
violet No.41351171 [Report]
>>41351129
the button test is the only necessary qualifier to go on estrogen, tbhon. But that does mean a lot of weird freaks become trans women too. it is what it is
Anonymous No.41351173 [Report] >>41351335 >>41353692 >>41355881
>>41351075
>anime
i read the vn, no end to any of their stories was happy or satisfied their desires which is why every nontrue ending is a tragedy. ruka is nothing like you, you still think your gender matters, the lesson okabe helped her learn was that man or woman she would always be ruka and thats what matters. and ruka does not want that world line at all. evn if she was cis her whole life, everyone has RS, so she would know something is wrong. And also youre not ruka because mayushii loves ruka and dressing ruka up and nobody loves you or wants to dress you up
violet No.41351335 [Report]
>>41351173
the op image is literally a screenshot from the anime that's why I made the distinction...
Anonymous No.41351351 [Report] >>41351373 >>41351880
>>41349776 (OP)
agp and trutrans are not incompatible, blanchard is a fraud and you don't even understand his garbage
Anonymous No.41351373 [Report]
>>41351351
save your breath, its pointless to say anything halfway reasonable here. its a retard incel board
Anonymous No.41351880 [Report] >>41351908 >>41352121
>>41351351
true trans doesn't exist. what makes someone true trans?

scenario 1: a male becomes convinced for whatever reasons that they are a trans woman, they experience all the symptoms of gender dysphoria, go through a social and medical transition, get diagnosed but it's fake or something and they're just a delusional man and faketrans

scenario 2: a male is a true trans woman, believes they're a woman, goes through a social and medical transition, gets diagnosed with gender dysphoria but is actually true trans and not a deluded man

what is the difference between these two people? what trait do "true trans'" have that "fake trans" lack?
Anonymous No.41351908 [Report] >>41352775
>>41351880
>what trait do "true trans'" have that "fake trans" lack?
I couldn't possibly point a single thing out that held up to any kind of real empirical or epistemological scrutiny, which is kind of my point - if someone wants to troon out or has some gender non conforming traits or whatever that's just kind of what they are
violet No.41352121 [Report] >>41352775
>>41351880
>what makes someone true trans
passing. If you don't pass your soul is varying degrees of defective
Anonymous No.41352205 [Report] >>41352775
>>41349776 (OP)
>>41349834
>more blanchard cultists
must be nice being ignorant, considering you lot just live here 24/7 rather than living any other way with your lives
Anonymous No.41352229 [Report] >>41352846
There are true trannies who aren't bottom dysphoric but I noticed most are.
Anonymous No.41352775 [Report]
>>41351908
this is the correct position- that true trans doesn't really exist ontologically. to be trans is just to go through a social/medical process of transition and take on the identity

>>41352121
>>41352205
doesn't seem like an argument
Anonymous No.41352846 [Report] >>41353544
>>41352229
But what's your definition of a true tranny? Some might say anyone who doesn't experience bottom dysphoria isn't truly transsexual by definition.
Anonymous No.41353035 [Report]
Realistically there is no way to "turn cis" so you can't know with 100% certainty what anyone would do if given that option, gender would be different if people could freely choose their bodies and for that matter so would attractiveness as a concept. Many people would met choose to be cis if they had to be fat, aboriginal, or retarded.

Therefore, the people who are more truly female souled are the people who decide to express their gender even if they cannot be cis and thus it is actually those who would not press the button who are more true trans.

Otherwise, a repper who just stays male but says "i would choose to be female if I could press the button but I can't so i won't" is ontologically more of a woman and if that were truly the case no one would transition, they would all just repress under that same rationale.
Anonymous No.41353469 [Report]
The better question is do you want to be a 10/10 trans woman or an average cis woman
Anonymous No.41353544 [Report]
>>41352846
Convincingly female in enough ways
Anonymous No.41353564 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
just bc some people like being a tranny doesn’t mean they wouldn’t want to be cis if that were actually an option
Anonymous No.41353654 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
Huh? What do you mean? Surely everyone on HRT would "press the button" instantly, if that turned them into a cis woman. Right?
Right?
Transtrenders aren't real, right? AGP fetishists aren't TRULY real, right?
Don't tell me... there are MEN who enjoy being on HRT for the sake of their perverted fetish.
We ALL want to be women, only reason I'm on HRT instead of killing myself to be reborn as a woman is because I have no guarantee I'd be reborn one.
Anonymous No.41353692 [Report] >>41353723
>>41351173
>Ruka is better than you because she can accept sacrificing the body she wants to save the people she loves, that means she's not trans even though she would be happier as woman and that fits into my transphobic ideology because I can shove her into a femboy box
violet No.41353723 [Report] >>41353750 >>41355843 >>41355881
>>41353692
steins;gate fans are all rotten unfortunately. 2011 loser anime boy culture deep in their cranium
Anonymous No.41353750 [Report]
>>41353723
A lot of femboy/trap fans are really twisted up inside like that, yeah. They can't accept the traits and identity they're attracted to unless glued to a very specific era of anime tropes and attached subcommunity, and the minute anyone, real or fictional, dips a toe out of that box suddenly they despise the individual/character.
Claydoll No.41355573 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
Well yeah. Anyone who'd want to stay trans isn't experiencing the thing that makes you trans
Anonymous No.41355791 [Report]
>>41349776 (OP)
>I'm 100% convinced that troons who would turn into a cis girl if ever given the chance are trutrans and ones who wouldn't are AGP
this is exactly opposite. jeeps cant see the value in male, its why they transition. hussies are gayboys for whom maleness is an alienating experience.

>>41349834
blanchie has the correlation down but not the causation. actually stating the real cause of hussies is basically social suicide as youre kind of pointing the finger at normative society and accusing them of things theyd never in a million years admit to. jeeps a bit less so but its still a difficult topic to discuss.
Anonymous No.41355843 [Report]
>>41351075
>>41353723
Luka is a cute! Don't talk bad about Luka!
Anonymous No.41355881 [Report] >>41355911
>>41351173
you entirely missed the point of rukas character. you missed the subtlety and the social nuances, you failed to resonate with them emotionally. you dont actually understand what it means to give up something precious to you for those you care about or self sacrifice in any way, you just want to use them as a symbol of "real feminine male" to justify your nastiness.

>>41353723
dont lump us all in with that waste of space. plenty of us had trans friends at the time, were considering transition, or had friends who transitioned later. 2011 loser anime boy culture was a lot more tolerant than these sacks of shit are and these people are the sad residue of a culture adopted but not known.
Anonymous No.41355911 [Report] >>41355918 >>41356028 >>41356734
>>41355881
The whole point of Luka's character quite literally was that Luka is originally a guy, yet wants to be a girl because of social norms and this one change helps cause even more of a fuck up that Okabe has to resolve. Luka still chooses to revert back to the worldline where he is a guy because it means saving Mayuri, and learns to accept himself as well despite his feminine nature.
Anonymous No.41355918 [Report] >>41355952
>>41355911
holy fuck youre actually retarded
Anonymous No.41355952 [Report] >>41355957
>>41355918
you didn't counter
Anonymous No.41355957 [Report] >>41355982
>>41355952
i dont need to, youve failed to understand the concepts that underpin the whole fucking show and that much will be immediately obvious to anyone who reads your post and has actually seen the show or played the VN.
Anonymous No.41355982 [Report] >>41355988
>>41355957
octo is that you?
Anonymous No.41355988 [Report]
>>41355982
i have no idea who youre talking about
Anonymous No.41356028 [Report]
>>41355911
>No dude her desire to be a woman isn't legitimate because she made the noble sacrifice of her happiness to save her loved ones and learned to live within the limitations of her reality as a transwoman!
Absolutely retarded argument. It's like you think she'd only be trans if she was incredibly selfish and wouldn't save someone, or if she'd just out and out kill herself at the end instead of just continuing to live as a woman despite her body.
Anonymous No.41356038 [Report] >>41358609
>>41349834
i wish i was a cis woman desperately but i do get off on being a feminized male sometimes during sex
sage No.41356734 [Report]
>>41355911
your definition of trans is so narrow and retarded you literally cannot conceive of a tranny sacrificing her own happiness to save her friend's life. you think someone doing that instantly nullifies the reality them being trans. i get that you dont think we're human beings, but this is straight up tranny derangement syndrome. you'll never be able to genocide us if you keep misunderstanding us this badly. you people literally dont even know who shot charlie kirk or why, ffs. idiots.
Anonymous No.41358609 [Report]
>>41356038
yeah, AGP and AGAMP often coexist. also, GAMPs (chasers) also sometimes have AGP/AGAMP, this is why it's common for them to troon out.