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what caused trans acceptance to go the opposite way of gay acceptance?
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41428345 [Report] >>41428356 >>41428371 >>41430799 >>41436732
Cuckservatives moving from gay panic to trans panic
Anonymous No.41428346 [Report] >>41428351 >>41428357 >>41428902
Your prolific podophilia
Anonymous No.41428351 [Report]
>>41428346
whats wrong with feet
punished umaruchan !!9dCyHba5Iu5 No.41428352 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
various factors
can it be undone? maybe not so easily
I think that would require convincing ppl they were wrong before convincing others they were wrong
Anonymous No.41428356 [Report] >>41430832 >>41436732 >>41436763
>>41428345
Yeah support for gays tanked in the 2000's since they used it as a panic item for a bit, they have trannies now who were basically a "believe it or not!" thing before 2023 when the news made it an issue.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41428357 [Report]
>>41428346
>podophilia
Ugh I love obscure east african trees so much
Anonymous No.41428364 [Report] >>41428369 >>41431601 >>41436794
i think the whole "gender is something you choose when you're 7" thing started rubbing people the wrong way. which is understandable given how it doesn't really make any sense.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41428369 [Report] >>41428393 >>41428404 >>41430821 >>41431601
>>41428364
>at 7 people aren't aware of how they fit in a society and how their body relates to it
What are you smoking to reach this retarded take?
Anonymous No.41428371 [Report] >>41428408 >>41430572 >>41431771 >>41434035 >>41440436
>>41428345
why is trans panic so much more successful than gay panic?
Anonymous No.41428384 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
I've never been asked to do a survey (beside the national census) how do I sign up for one so I can share my dogshit opinions about shit I don't understand or don't care about?
Anonymous No.41428393 [Report] >>41428408
>>41428369
why would you respect the opinions of someone who hasn't gone through puberty on literally anything?
Anonymous No.41428404 [Report] >>41428408
>>41428369
>"Son your gonna be a man some day!"
>lol I don't want to lmao
>"Don't embarrass this family by being a faggot or a retard."
>lol Ok adult who keeps me alive, an objection at my age would be impractical for my survival lmao
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41428408 [Report] >>41428435
>>41428371
It rly isn't
>>41428393
>"why would you trust a 7 year old who says that they have 2 arms and legs" because your self awareness develops before the age of 7
>>41428404
>abuse is healthy
That's why your dad never came back tbqh
Anonymous No.41428435 [Report] >>41428445
>>41428408
>It rly isn't
yes it is, assault on gays by conservatives in 2000s was significantly more unsuccessful compared to assault on trans rights today
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41428445 [Report]
>>41428435
>2000s
Try the aids epidemic years
Gay panic killed a shitload of people
And it's a better comparison since just like trans rights it was comparatively new and in the spotlight for the first time
Anonymous No.41428902 [Report]
>>41428346
>podophilia
It's true, I'm hopelessly attracted to toxic podcast bros. Liberal men don't lift like they do.
Anonymous No.41428922 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
Agp transbians unironically
Anonymous No.41428959 [Report] >>41429012
>>41428340 (OP)
I have a feeling that people see picrel and have a violent reaction.
No one wants these people living in society, and I don't blame them.
Anonymous No.41429005 [Report]
If they're not a pedo or being a degenerate at pride gay people only do weird stuff in private generally, they don't try to get you fired for refusing to deny reality either.
Anonymous No.41429012 [Report] >>41430831
>>41428959
>ugly bad
Anonymous No.41429026 [Report] >>41429052
Pretty much all questions like this can be answered with "social media"

And before you try to act superior, remember that zoom zooms can't even process the concept of ideas not coming from tiktok

A couple of months ago just having a linen shirt would be met with "oh, you saw that on tiktok". Zoomies LITERALLY belief linen was invented by tiktok
Anonymous No.41429052 [Report] >>41432316
>>41429026
I'm a zoom zoom, I have finished my masters degree in computer science last year, I am doing my phd now and and I have never used a social media plataform, besides of course 4chan if you want to count "you can talk to people!" as social media as some BOOMERS (you) insist.
You are just a bigot against young people
Anonymous No.41429060 [Report]
Trans people cannot accept any criticism of their ideology. They really thought they could get away with forcing everyone to pretend any man with long hair wearing female clothing literally IS a female and act confused and surprised when anyone disagrees with them...
Anonymous No.41429145 [Report] >>41433818
>>41428340 (OP)
trannies.
Anonymous No.41430505 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
This only goes to 2017? Fucking batshit.

Let's parse this out properly shall we? Queer liberation really got its legs about 120 years ago. This was where we saw a reemergence of lgbtq activism and lifestyles in the public eye. It triggered massive waves of elite disinformation. Obviously nobody sane is actually bothered by a woman with a penis or two ladies kissing. Very simple stuff unlikely to affect you in any way shape or form. So the response is always propaganda, propaganda, propaganda. Some of the worst of this was in the 80s where far right bigots called for our genocide and Reagan deliberately spread the AIDs virus in the hopes of achieving that aim. This was where people were finally getting a good look at the bigots in mass media, in a setting where you can communicate how freakish the elite homophobes are.

Since the 80s, where everyone saw how nasty homophobes are, queer acceptance has gone way way up. Since the late 1800s when the modern LGBTQ movement got its roots, we have become a commonly accepted fixture of daily life once again. Just like our distant ancestors used to be, but better, because humans tend to self improve.

So all this namby pamby far right nonsense about how our legendary blitz of civil rights against manufactured ignorance is going to break "any day now" is meaningless to us. Nobody buys it except the gullible and desperate; so mostly the far right just getting high off their own supply. Sure sure, theyve been able to spend actual billions of dollars trying to turn people against us. But you compare their meager results against what free people have achieved and its absolutely pathetic.

Oligarchs just...they aren't fully intelligent anymore. They dont have a chance without manipulating better, working people. And more and more working people aren't so brainwashed that they cringe at the barest blush of liberty. Billionaires can victimize some of us, but we dont disappear after. We fight and inspire.
Anonymous No.41430552 [Report] >>41430568
>use entire media to target hate towards them 24/7
>use the us government to pass segregation laws to discriminate against them
>have politicians using abliest and straight up genocidial language calling for rounding them up into death camps

Btw, support for gay rights collapsed in the 1980s due to AIDS. we are living in that same period now.
Anonymous No.41430554 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
Lack of proper gatekeeping. Lack of identity for the community. A complete failure to distance from the social pariahs that kept conflating themselves with true trans people. Literally just fucking tell hons theyre delusional. Work hard to create a distinct difference in effort, presentation, and motive. Make it CLEAR to normies that the current "trans" community is actually like 4 or 5 different types of people, only 1 of which is actually trans. The rest are fetishists and sissies and gender non conforming people. Which is NOT the same thing as my medical condition.
Anonymous No.41430559 [Report]
non-ops
Anonymous No.41430568 [Report] >>41430578
>>41430552
>support collapsed after AIDs
Temporarily, before shooting up higher than ever before (in modernity) and spreading farther as well. And only after support had grown again following the Lavender Scare. Which followed a period of queer activism that was making inroads. Get a pattern? We never stay down.
Anonymous No.41430572 [Report]
>>41428371
> why is trans panic so much more successful than gay panic?

you are a zoomer. US supreme court upheld sodomy laws in usa in 1985 and it remained till 2003. Bush ran on a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and 11/11 states banned gay marriage in 2004 election that helped Bush. dear god, do kids not know history?
Anonymous No.41430578 [Report] >>41430917
>>41430568
> We never stay down.
than people should stop acting like trans rights is done cause some orange cunt won the white house. trump getting elected doesn’t mean shit to me. it doesn’t change my support for trans people.
Anonymous No.41430590 [Report] >>41430611
>>41428340 (OP)
Flawed premise, the public is backsliding on gay marriage as well. Its just way less reported on and polled.
Anonymous No.41430611 [Report] >>41430721
>>41430590
this. and all polling shows it coming almost exclusively from the republican party. the republican never wanted LGBT. they always hated you and wanted them dead. untill we realize republicans are the enemy we are headed towards nazi death camps.
Anonymous No.41430635 [Report] >>41430651
>>41428340 (OP)
people actually being exposed to trannies
Anonymous No.41430651 [Report] >>41433674
>>41430635
the polling doesn’t indicate that. it’s republicans, the people who live rural shithole in texas who get their view of trans people from social media, aka teitter aka nazism.
Anonymous No.41430666 [Report] >>41430696
Most people these days know trans-identified people who still present and act like their AGAB, they just see the entire concept of gender dysphoria as a brainworm
Anonymous No.41430696 [Report] >>41431181
>>41430666
40% of american think the earth was created 6,000 years ago. do you think they even have a clue how gender dysphoria when 30% of them can’t even read? its education problem.
Anonymous No.41430704 [Report] >>41430970 >>41431181 >>41432481
>>41428340 (OP)
Correct, sex is determined at birth. Trannies never said otherwise.

However gender isn't.

Right wingers lack high education.
Anonymous No.41430706 [Report] >>41430757
read pic related.
Anonymous No.41430721 [Report] >>41430787
>>41430611
Great chart. The precipitous drop of Republican red line in the last couple years really demonstrates the Trumpian takeover of the Republican party. Disaffected racists who weren't voting have come out of the woodwork and rally behind their racist homophobic leader. They were always around, but Trump emboldened them to vote. The Mitt Romney/John McCain/Mitch McConnel wing of the party is fully gone. Its Culture War 24/7 for these clowns.
Anonymous No.41430757 [Report]
>>41430706
See, I don't doubt the date in your picrel, but I've seen countless libs take this data and arrive at absurd conclusions. Yes, Republicans don't personally know trans people, because they've driven them out of or killed off any gay or trans people in their shitty little hateful towns. Any LGBT person fled as a young adult and never returned. Getting some vanilla Blue Wave lib poster to just say, "Just have Republicans meet some trans people, so shrimple!" These Republicans are in their shitty small towns in an complete information vacuum, having a travelling Pridefest show up once a year isn't going to move the needle, but all these huckster non-profits just can fundraise for fucking days on that braindead concept.
Anonymous No.41430787 [Report]
>>41430721
>Everyone around me has gone mad. Anyone who is beaten up, killed or taken away to a concentration camp. They were born hating us, raised hating us. And now the veneer of civilization stripped away to protect us from their hatred.” - Jewish women reacting to annexation of Austria in 1938
Anonymous No.41430799 [Report] >>41430817 >>41431448
>>41428345
gay panic failed entirely as a movement, trans panic is succeeding.

whatever cuckservatives have to say is irrelevant.
Anonymous No.41430802 [Report] >>41430815
>>41428340 (OP)
>what caused trans acceptance to go the opposite way of gay acceptance?
transing the kids was quite possibly the worst strategic error of all time, the aggresive and underhanded way it was done (through public schools behind parents back) was even worse for optics
Anonymous No.41430815 [Report] >>41430833
>>41430802
No one transed the kids at school, Peter Thiel, you ignorant ape. I bet you believe in the kitty litter box in school hoax too? No one can ever provide any evidence that was real at all, but they swear on a stack of bibles it happened.
Anonymous No.41430817 [Report] >>41430860
>>41430799
> gay panic failed entirely as a movement,
gay panic existed for centuries. what in the fuck are you talking about? you know they burned at the stake right?
Anonymous No.41430821 [Report] >>41431448
>>41428369
Yeah pretty much. A 7 year old has absolutely no fucking clue what "society" is or what role they want to take up in it.
Anonymous No.41430831 [Report]
>>41429012
>it's the episode where the AGP hon thinks looking male = being ugly again
Anonymous No.41430832 [Report] >>41430870
>>41428356
what caused this worldwide tho
trump assasination attempt?
(also rly funny the most engaged countries are those most captured by the murdoch press machine)
Anonymous No.41430833 [Report] >>41430901 >>41430943
>>41430815
Peter Thiel is gay, he's a leftist like you
Anonymous No.41430843 [Report]
and gay panic never ended. did u forget MTG was saying gay sex cause monkey virus? did y’all suffer from brain damage?
Anonymous No.41430860 [Report]
>>41430817
Apologies, given the context that we have been talking about modern political movements in the 2000's and 2010's, it seemed like only a retard would bring up the middle ages. But yes, this is correct. At the height of the christian faith's stranglehold over society "gay panic" was extremely successful.
Anonymous No.41430870 [Report] >>41430899
>>41430832
>5 year lookback window
>Interest in transgender flat 0% for 2 years
Uhh, yeah Chief I'm going to say your data is a little fucked up there.
Anonymous No.41430899 [Report]
>>41430870
yea i agree i just felt like doing some undergrad astrology y'know
Anonymous No.41430901 [Report]
>>41430833
Peter Thiel is a billionaire and no billionaire can be correctly categorized as a leftist. On top of that he's a complete anti-christ looney toon. He might be gay, but that's the only thing you got right.
Anonymous No.41430917 [Report]
>>41430578
Yeah! 100%! He's nothing, billionaires are nothing. We achieved our recognition as human beings following World War fucking 2 and the Hitler's demented anti-freedom temper tantrum genocides. The idea that *Donald Trump* is up to the task of obliterating human liberty permanently is laughable. He can make a mess, he cant stop the janitors.
Anonymous No.41430943 [Report]
>>41430833
You cant be a billionaire and a leftist.
Anonymous No.41430952 [Report]
there is a solution….
Anonymous No.41430970 [Report]
>>41430704
i'm sorry for being a chud TwT
Anonymous No.41431181 [Report] >>41431231
>>41430696
No, it’s the fact that you believe gd is a real thing problem
>>41430704
Gender is strictly determined by your sex at birth. t. left wing environmentalist
Anonymous No.41431231 [Report] >>41431254
>>41431181
How could gender, which is social, possibly be determined by an approximate assumption of your birth sex?
Anonymous No.41431254 [Report] >>41431277
>>41431231
gender isn't social. gender roles are social. gender is brain sex, which is determined at birth.
Anonymous No.41431277 [Report] >>41431344
>>41431254
Gender is social lol, its the social abstraction of sex. Garfield from the comic strips has no penis, vagina or brain but we all know he uses he/him pronouns and identifies as a man. Garfield has a gender.

>gender is brain sex, which is determined at birth.
"Brain sex" isn't a biological thing. Your brain can more closely resemble the average structures of "the other sex" but in and of itself your brain does not have a sex. Its not an organism, its an organ. If anything, what youre calling brain sex is just another sexual characteristic that comprises sex.
Anonymous No.41431344 [Report] >>41431364
>>41431277
garfield has a penis you retard
Anonymous No.41431364 [Report]
>>41431344
Show me Garfield's penis
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41431448 [Report] >>41431690 >>41437867
>>41430799
Gay panic succeeded about as much as trans panic does atm
You're applying hindsight to a panic that raged on and dominated us politics for over a decade
>>41430821
Are you suggesting that at the age of 7 you had no idea how girls and boys are different and didn't see society treat them differently?
Are you retarded or on the spectrum?
Anonymous No.41431574 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
interesting, i thought people went from largely not giving a shit about faggots to absolutely hating them and wanting them dead in the 80s?
Anonymous No.41431601 [Report] >>41431672
>>41428364
>>41428369
I knew I was trans at age 4
"Protecting kids" just means forcing them to conform because it makes parents comfortable
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41431672 [Report]
>>41431601
TRVKE
Transphobia is literally just feels over reals perpetrated by snowflakes
Anonymous No.41431690 [Report] >>41431722 >>41431723 >>41431732 >>41440988
>>41431448
>Are you suggesting that at the age of 7 you had no idea how girls and boys are different and didn't see society treat them differently?
I am suggesting that at 7 I had no fucking clue what it meant to be a "man" or a "woman" and didn't even START to truly understand that until going through puberty. Neither did you or anyone else. Children do not understand complex social roles, they are completely undeveloped.
Anonymous No.41431705 [Report]
nobody can name what “gay panic” is cause we had numerous of them.
Anonymous No.41431722 [Report] >>41431753
>>41431690
2/2
so yes, I am on the spectrum.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41431723 [Report] >>41431742
>>41431690
So at 7 you were too autistic to realize something that people know at the age of 4?
Impressive
Anonymous No.41431732 [Report] >>41431766
>>41431690
> Children do not understand complex social roles, they are completely undeveloped.
i knew who the president was, what the twin towers was, that people were dying and all that watching 9/11 happen live in class. you act like kids are brainless.
Anonymous No.41431742 [Report] >>41431773 >>41431774
>>41431723

Ask a fucking 7 year old what they want to be when they grow up and they will have retarded ideas like "astronaut" or "youtuber" because they have no conception of society or what it demands to achieve success like that. The idea that 7 year old's have even the faintest clue what complex social roles entail is fucking absurd.
Anonymous No.41431753 [Report]
>>41431722
Only someone actually on the spectrum could have such a poor understanding of social roles that they think they've figured it all out at 7.
Anonymous No.41431766 [Report]
>>41431732
>i knew who the president was
Knowing a factoid your parents and teachers drilled in your head is not the same thing as understanding the role and responsibilities of the president.

>you act like kids are brainless
They are contextless. They don't understand anything.
Anonymous No.41431771 [Report] >>41431811
>>41428371
>Women’s rights
>Women’s sports
>Women’s spaces
>The Definition of a Woman
Anonymous No.41431773 [Report] >>41431786
>>41431742
Those aren't retarded ideas, some people actually have the drive to achieve things in life. Maybe not someone like you who didn't know that girls have vaginas and boys have penises at 7 years old.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41431774 [Report] >>41431819 >>41431876
>>41431742
Ask a 7 yo if they're a boy or a girl and if they rather play with boys or girls you dimwit instead of comparing jobs with something as basic as your understanding of your own body
Anonymous No.41431785 [Report]
ask yourself this: how is saying kids aren’t born trans any different from saying kids aren’t born gay?
Anonymous No.41431786 [Report] >>41431794 >>41433751
>>41431773
>Maybe not someone like you who didn't know that girls have vaginas and boys have penises at 7 years old
So you are saying the only factor that defines men and women is their genitals?

You are a literal retard.
Anonymous No.41431794 [Report]
>>41431786
it is. you will never be a woman, bro
Anonymous No.41431796 [Report] >>41431824
I 100% knew I was a fruit before puberty. Trans though, eh, it takes a little time to realize just how shitty your life is going to be as a gay person to get a sense of the gravity of your predicament.
Anonymous No.41431811 [Report]
>>41431771
>women’s rights
>oh no abortion, contraction, divorce, claiming rape, working outside the kitchen, women in combat, etc. etc.

funny coming from the party that hates women and makes fun of women’s sports
Anonymous No.41431819 [Report] >>41431854
>>41431774
>understanding yourself
>understanding your body
>basic
>wanting to play with girls as a 7 year old makes you a girl
Yeah this shit is why the tranny movement is failing bruh. These arguments are wholly unconvincing.
Anonymous No.41431824 [Report] >>41431845 >>41431866 >>41432528
>>41431796
The average gay is much more accepted than the average tranny. Reading the thread should be enough proof of that. Becoming a tranny relegates you to a life of being a repulsive circus freak
Anonymous No.41431833 [Report] >>41431858
The revelation that the guys you like will never, ever reciprocate your feelings... because you're not a woman, is an eldritch tier existential problem.
Anonymous No.41431840 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
Unironically, the fact that most trannies are unbearable to fucking be around. I’ve met some gays and some trans people through my work and I can only think of one gay person that I didn’t want to be in a room with. On the other hand, I can’t think of a single tranny that didn’t make me wish they had died at birth. They are fucking insufferable.
Anonymous No.41431845 [Report] >>41438091
>>41431824
> The average gay is much more accepted than the average tranny.

you are at 38% approval rating with the party in power. you aren’t even human to them.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41431854 [Report] >>41431873 >>41431892
>>41431819
>retard is so retarded that you have to simplify your argument
>"see how simple the pro trans argument is?!"
Tiresome
I can't help that you're literally autistic.
Science shows both that gender identity and a understanding of social roles form relatively early and that dysphoria manifests around the same time.
Anonymous No.41431858 [Report]
>>41431833
for you
Anonymous No.41431866 [Report]
>>41431824
>Becoming a tranny relegates you to a life of being a repulsive circus freak
Perhaps, but it has gotten me normal boyfriends, which for me has been worth dealing with ALL the negative consequences of transitioning. Sorry but love beats the ire of the nebulous political climate.
Anonymous No.41431873 [Report] >>41431913
>>41431854
i was diagnosed with autism in 2nd grade. i don’t understand how people say someone can’t be diagnosed with gender dysphoria at the same age
Anonymous No.41431876 [Report] >>41431913
>>41431774
What percentage of 7 yo fruity boys and ftmrepper girls stay that way past puberty? I think we tell at that age whether children have those inclinations, but probably can't decide on treatment, if any is needed, until early puberty.
Anonymous No.41431885 [Report] >>41431900
do people think being transgender is a choice in this thread? asking cause i don’t know how stupid the average American. why would someone choose persecution and how is it different from saying being gay is a choice?
Anonymous No.41431892 [Report] >>41431897 >>41431913
>>41431854
>I can't help that you're literally autistic.
Not even remotely autistic my friend. Arguing that children have these complex internal worlds and deep understanding of social roles falls flat on their face to anyone who has actually been around children in any capacity.

This is why people call you groomers, because they have interacted with children, they know how children reason, and when you say children are just as mature as adults they think you are a freak.
Anonymous No.41431897 [Report] >>41431909
>>41431892
are you going to answer the question. do you think being transgender is a choice or born with?
Anonymous No.41431900 [Report] >>41431909 >>41431929 >>41431949
>>41431885
>do people think being transgender is a choice in this thread?
No I don't think it is a choice in any capacity. Dysphoria is a real thing that I do not believe is diagnosable in children and nothing has been said to convince me otherwise of that.
Anonymous No.41431909 [Report]
>>41431897
yes
>>41431900
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41431913 [Report] >>41431947
>>41431873
P much
>>41431876
The percentage is around 1-3%, far below any other medical procedure
>>41431892
>i don't understand
Maybe look at what the science shows then you retard
Anonymous No.41431929 [Report]
>>41431900
ok is my mom a groomer for having me diagnosed autistic at 2nd grade? after all its “not discoverable” in children right?
Anonymous No.41431947 [Report] >>41431980 >>41431998
>>41431913
>Maybe look at what the science shows then you retard
Multiple major studies on both side of this argument have been shown to be falsified largely based on the preconceived beliefs of the author. I have no interest in blindly "trusting the science".

If you expect me to ignore the lived experience of basically every human that has ever existed in favor of your radical view of children's internal world, you need to have something better than
>trust the science!
Anonymous No.41431949 [Report] >>41431972
>>41431900
> I do not believe is diagnosable in children and nothing has been said to convince me otherwise of that.

Well I guess you can go down to Tennessee and tell my cousin who is psychiatrist for trans youth that she needs to find a new job right? after all you are the expect, not Vanderbilt university
Anonymous No.41431972 [Report] >>41431986
>>41431949
Oh shit no way, your cousin REALLY went to Vanderbilt? That totally changes EVERYTHING!
Anonymous No.41431980 [Report] >>41432087
>>41431947
what is the purpose you are trying to get at here? are you trying to imply trans kids don’t exist? are you calling for genociding the trans community? I don’t get like what your point is.
Anonymous No.41431986 [Report]
>>41431972
despite anything she wrote here anon
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41431998 [Report]
>>41431947
>multiple studies on both sides
>source: my autistic rectum
Anonymous No.41432029 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
trans women are too lame to date male politicians and give them a secret soft spot for us so that the movement shifts to benefit us in the shadows. gay men had no problem with this!!
Anonymous No.41432087 [Report] >>41432113 >>41432182 >>41432182
>>41431980
>what is the purpose you are trying to get at here?
I am explaining why the tranny movement is failing. (transing the kids)
>are you trying to imply trans kids don’t exist?
I am outright stating that. I do not believe it is possible to diagnose dysphoria before puberty starts.
>are you calling for genociding the trans community?
Not even a little bit. I think that HRT should be either totally OTC for 18+ individuals or lightly regulated so that patients have a single conversation about risks with their doctor before starting it. I also don't care where anyone pees at all.
Anonymous No.41432113 [Report] >>41432225 >>41432291
>>41432087
>I am outright stating that. I do not believe it is possible to diagnose dysphoria before puberty starts.
Actually I'll change this phrasing a bit. Some children may have dysphoria from birth, but it is not currently possible to distinguish them from non-dysphoric GNC children so it is irresponsible to medically intervene and halt puberty or give them HRT.
Anonymous No.41432182 [Report] >>41432266
>>41432087
>>41432087
> do not believe it is possible to diagnose dysphoria before puberty starts.
i was diagnosed with autism before puberty.

> Not even a little bit. I think that HRT should be either totally OTC for 18+ individuals or lightly regulated so that patients have a single conversation about risks with their doctor before starting it. I also don't care where anyone pees at all.

a child can’t have HRT even if they need it to survive? you know trans kids have been forced to detransition and has lead to suicide. you literally have blood on your hands of trans kids.
Anonymous No.41432225 [Report]
>>41432113
It is accurate that prepubertal children should not receive puberty blockers or hormone therapy, since gender dysphoria cannot be reliably diagnosed or distinguished from non-dysphoric gender-nonconforming behavior before puberty. Major guidelines such as those from the Endocrine Society and WPATH allow medical intervention only after puberty begins and only following thorough psychological and medical evaluation. However, describing all medical intervention as “irresponsible” is an overstatement—international standards emphasize caution, reversibility, and individualized assessment rather than outright prohibition.
Anonymous No.41432266 [Report] >>41432285 >>41432291 >>41432325
>>41432182
>I was diagnosed with a completely different medical condition!
I definitely believe you are autistic because only a retard thinks that is a compelling argument but you keep repeating it so I will acknowledge your retardation now.

>you know trans kids have been forced to detransition and has lead to suicide
They can medically transition after puberty.
Anonymous No.41432285 [Report] >>41433675
>>41432266
> They can medically transition after puberty.
13-14 year olds can’t transition in 27 us states under the law. that is the age puberty ends
Anonymous No.41432291 [Report] >>41432533
>>41432266
>>41432113
And you are basing that off...?
If we treated all conditions like that, we'd have a significant problem with child sucide/death, bigger than now. You're a retarded nigger and should be treated as such
Anonymous No.41432316 [Report]
>>41429052
>masters degree
>phd
2024 tiktok called, they want their trend back
Anonymous No.41432325 [Report] >>41432543
>>41432266
You are basing your arguments off of nothing why should we take your retarded opinion seriously at all?
You switched the argument to "after puberty" which forces transgenders to go through changes that make their life significantly more difficult and painful (some permamently, like height or frame)
Anonymous No.41432392 [Report]
why is the government telling parents and kids what they can and can’t do with their bodies? this is the sane shit as abortion. why is the government involved at all?
Anonymous No.41432481 [Report]
>>41430704
Gender is a grammatical concept.
Anonymous No.41432501 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
AGPs in general and AGPs focusing on invading spaces for actual women (e.g. sports, scholarships, prizes for competitions) in particular.
Anonymous No.41432528 [Report]
>>41431824
Because you people act like repulsive circus freaks.
Anonymous No.41432533 [Report]
>>41432291
>If we treated all conditions like that
It's a good thing I never said to treat all conditions like that you autistic retard.

>little billy doesn't make eye contact and talks about trains all day so we will put him in the "special kids" class
is a lot easier to diagnose than
>little billy was literally born in the wrong body and requires extreme permanent medical intervention to rectify
Anonymous No.41432543 [Report] >>41432567 >>41432612 >>41437982
>>41432325
>why should we take your retarded opinion seriously at all?
Your opinions are the extreme minority my friend. It is you who needs to convince ME that transing kids is the right thing to do and not the other way around.
Anonymous No.41432567 [Report]
>>41432543
>It is you who needs to convince ME
And just to be clear because I forgot for a moment I was talking to an autistic retard, I mean the "royal" ME as in you need to convince the majority of people that transing the kids is the right thing to do.
Anonymous No.41432570 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
patronizing and pushy leftist activists, I was doing just fine until you freaks fucked it up, nobody asked you to speak on my behalf and use me as a platform to push your own agenda
Anonymous No.41432579 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
you didn't stop tolerating faith
Anonymous No.41432612 [Report] >>41433373
>>41432543
nobody here has said a trans kid should get bottom surgery at 8 years old. you are engaging in strawman
Anonymous No.41432624 [Report] >>41432665
>transing kids
again pushing the idea that being trans is a choice and there are no trans kids. if a trans kid want to be called she/her pronouns would you deny that as a teacher?
Anonymous No.41432665 [Report] >>41432700 >>41432700
>>41432624
>trans is a choice
You really are autistic aren't you? Can only think in black and white terms? Total extremes?

What a retard.
>if a trans kid want to be called she/her pronouns would you deny that as a teacher?
No because in the same vein I wouldn't care if a student asked to be called by a nickname, I would just do that.

If they told me they wanted to halt their puberty or receive surgical intervention then yes, I would push back against that.
Anonymous No.41432700 [Report] >>41432739
>>41432665
>>41432665
> If they told me they wanted to halt their puberty or receive surgical intervention then yes, I would push back against that.
what you would do is recommend a GD councilor.
Anonymous No.41432739 [Report] >>41432779 >>41432779
>>41432700
Actually, I would tell their parents and let the family decide the course of action. That shit is definitely NOT my problem to deal with as a stranger to the child.
Anonymous No.41432779 [Report] >>41432897
>>41432739
>>41432739
if you are a teacher it is your duty to recommend GD councilor.
Anonymous No.41432792 [Report]
ok so what is the argument here?

the whole point of this thread is why is the trans panic happening and you don’t agree with the fascist fear mongering. so what is the point?
Anonymous No.41432897 [Report] >>41432993
>>41432779
>nooo they weren't transing kids behind the parents back!!!
>it's your DUTY to trans kids behind the parents back!!!!!
wild stuff anon
Anonymous No.41432993 [Report] >>41433081
>>41432897
thats not what transing means idiot.
Anonymous No.41433022 [Report] >>41433050 >>41433398
people in this thread prove the point by saying kids that don't know how to read can be trans and you need to do shit behind the parents back. that's grooming. how could anyone not see that the general public isn't down with that kind of stuff and how it would cause pushback? is it because of echo chambers?
Anonymous No.41433050 [Report]
>>41433022
you are literally saying being trans is a choice. and if the child wishes to be a different gender and the parent don’t because their bigots what would you say than? would you let the die
Anonymous No.41433081 [Report]
>>41432993
Actually that is quite literally what 99% of people mean by saying "transing the kids behind the parents back".

That phrase means
>making medical decisions without the parents involvement
So if I was a teacher I would tell the parents their child expressed these feelings and give the parents reputable doctors to speak to but I would not refer the child directly.
Anonymous No.41433121 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
>what caused trans acceptance to go the opposite way of gay acceptance?

https://youtu.be/JYL9qVRU8BU?si=4_aUyZusVxwe2Wdc
Anonymous No.41433243 [Report] >>41433525
Failure to play into respectability politics. As much as we all hate it on concept, it works. My first exposure to anything LGBT was "TV Gay" stereotypes like Modern Family or episodes of How I Met Your Mother where the general idea is that they all just want to "be like us". It's a fucked up frame of mind to come from but the alternative to show the average person a completely alien lifestyle to them and expect the to be onboard is unfortunately a tall ask when most of their first exposure to anything Trans related is either a hurtful caricature or something fetishistic.
Anonymous No.41433327 [Report]
>live in nazi america
>support for trans people goes down
>i guess i shouldn’t support them and let them genocide them
>live in nazi germany
>support for jewish people goes down
>i guess i shouldn’t support them and let them genocide them
Anonymous No.41433373 [Report]
>>41432612
>it isn't happening but it's good that it's happening
Anonymous No.41433398 [Report]
>>41433022
>oy vey, they's callin' my li'l sammy SAMMIE instead
>on moi nhs shilling too
>it's anodduh shoa innit
>good thing th' lawr says teache's hafta tell me or I'd nevera known
>I'll be the faggot outa my buoy an' he'll be right as rain
>god save the qu- I mean king, innit
Anonymous No.41433454 [Report] >>41433613 >>41434261 >>41436236
>>41428340 (OP)
Gays chose and messaged on assimilation. Tranners demand society adapt to them.

Gays were socially and politically conscious and hid their annoying traits from the public eye. Tranners push their annoying traits into the public eye.

Gay acceptance requires almost no pragmatic changes. Trans acceptance comes with a whole narcissistic pseudoreligion on gender and sex attached, with changes the general public finds untenable.

Gays purged their fringe weirdos. Tranners put their fringe weirdos front and center.

Will tranners ever learn? I'm skeptical. Similar posts get poindexter responses trying to dispute the observable reality and its consequences rather than making change. At the end of the day, bitching about your lot in life is easier and faster than doing the hard work to build a better future.
Anonymous No.41433497 [Report] >>41433653
literacy declined and anti-intellectualism rose, that's all
Goo No.41433525 [Report]
>>41433243
I agree with this. Is a failure to lay low and bide time, instead they will die on petty hills no matter how bad it looks
Anonymous No.41433613 [Report] >>41433643 >>41438135
>>41433454
I'll add to this that this has happened because assimilation for trans is not always guaranteed. You see any gay can act normal and fit in as straight whereas if a trans person doesn't pass then there's nothing they can do about this. Gatekeeping used to solve this problem. Now anyone can "transition" even when it clearly didn't work. As a result the public start to find the whole thing absurd.
Anonymous No.41433643 [Report]
>>41433613
It's because the whole thing (the panopticon that arises out of the mess of ulfiltered conflicting priorities of the trans community) is actually absurd.
The choices made by the influential people alone (WPATH, GLAAD, etc) is so comically bad you'd be forgive. For building an Alex Jones tier false flag conspiracy around it.
Anonymous No.41433653 [Report] >>41433671 >>41433675
>>41433497
true. most Americans can’t read.
Anonymous No.41433671 [Report] >>41433688 >>41433765
>>41433653
>Americans
Not to be a pedant, but they said "US adults", not "US citizens". Draw your own conclusion.
Anonymous No.41433674 [Report]
>>41430651
your polling is full of shit then
Anonymous No.41433675 [Report]
>>41432285
Shows how backwards the US is really
>>41433653
>28%
Please tell me this isn't the whole fucking population
Are you telling me that almost a fucking 3rd of the US is literally retarded?
Anonymous No.41433688 [Report] >>41433701
>>41433671
you are a illiterate is my conclusion
Anonymous No.41433701 [Report] >>41433950
>>41433688
>a illiterate
>can't parse a distinction between "Adults who reside in the US" and "US citizens"
Self-report
Anonymous No.41433751 [Report] >>41433766
>>41431786
>So you are saying the only factor that defines men and women is their genitals?
Uh, yes? This is how it works for every other single fucking mammal on the planet.
Anonymous No.41433765 [Report] >>41433790
>>41433671
> US adults", not "US citizens".
us adults is now censuses and how nations talk about their population. no country counts “just citizens”
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41433766 [Report] >>41433804 >>41433831
>>41433751
>doesn't know about hyenas,pseudo phalli,the distinction between male/man and female/woman
Don't forget to breath you drooling vegetable
Anonymous No.41433790 [Report]
>>41433765
Which is irrelevant to the point, that if you count "adults regardless of citizenship status" in countries like the US with known unsustainable high levels of mass migration from poor sithole countries, you might be counting a group of people you don't care to actually educate, because removing them is cheaper.
Anonymous No.41433801 [Report]
>two most right wing governments have lowest literacy rates among developed nations
Anonymous No.41433804 [Report] >>41433864
>>41433766
When your whole ontological existence is predicated upon special pleading, you might just want to re-examine the fundamental axioms on which you rely.
Anonymous No.41433818 [Report]
>>41429145
>trannies
simplest and most accurate answer itt
Anonymous No.41433831 [Report] >>41433864
>>41433766
Bro just means gamete production, swap that out and now he's right with no edge cases
>but intersex
Precursor tissue is classifiable
>but species with sex changes
They can change their gamete production in nature, you can't.
>but man/woman doesn't mean sex
Man and woman are the set of the corresponding sex restricted to adults.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41433864 [Report] >>41433945
>>41433804
>special pleading
>at most 3% of the population
>versus up to 4% of the population being intersex
It's not special pleading if we're literally discussing and showing the boundaries of a faulty binary system you absolute mong.
Transgenderism is an observable fact, the only question is how to treat it
>>41433831
>XY women exist
>XY women can get pregnant
>ovotestis are a thing
There goes your "but it's gametes" bs
>it's literally related
No, man and woman is related to the dominant hormones and the related secondary characteristics for most peoples schema. Gameteproduction correlates at best but isn't causal for it
Anonymous No.41433900 [Report] >>41433927
>>41428340 (OP)
>what caused trans acceptance to go the opposite way of gay acceptance?
I think Ayden is personally a major contributor here.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41433927 [Report] >>41433958
>>41433900
>I think Ayden is personally a major contributor here.
I am BigTrans LLC
Anonymous No.41433945 [Report] >>41433957
>>41433864
Swyers syndromes are female.
Ovotestis is true unassifiable, and true unclassifiable is not a third sex, so also no problem.
This demonstrates OP, btw. Rather than merely cede the ground on sex, either from the caveman or the robed genius perspective, you are mantling the midwit and sperging.
Anonymous No.41433950 [Report]
>>41433701
>illiterate
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41433957 [Report] >>41433993
>>41433945
>it doesn't fit my definition, this isn't a problem cause uhhhhm
Lol
Anonymous No.41433958 [Report]
>>41433927
Damn yall niggas will really bask in the attention ANYWHERE you can get it

WILD tripfaggotry
Anonymous No.41433983 [Report] >>41434002
you are retarded if you argue against transgender on the basis of other mammals. transgender is a byproduct solely of the gender system which humans made.
Anonymous No.41433993 [Report] >>41434017 >>41434018
>>41433957
Here, let me lower myself to your level of seriousness on this convo.
It's going to be far less effort to just kill any ovotestis havers on discovery (rate of 0.0000063%) than to rearchitect society around them. Utility, form and function in one neat package.
Anonymous No.41434002 [Report] >>41434013
>>41433983
>le gender is a social construct
Anonymous No.41434013 [Report]
>>41434002
it literally is. learn what social construct is.
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41434017 [Report] >>41434057
>>41433993
>society is made around gamete production cause I say so
>"sorry this is the large gamete room, please provide me with a sample so I can check if you belong here"
Anonymous No.41434018 [Report] >>41434071
>>41433993
it's actually insanely easy to "rearchitect society" you just say words you already know. we're not making skyscrapers from dust you bilge rat
Anonymous No.41434035 [Report] >>41434072
>>41428371
because your kind is going into womens sports and dominating and giving brain damage to our girls
Anonymous No.41434057 [Report] >>41434088 >>41437982
>>41434017
Correct.
Please keep sperging out on this in the wild btw, the whole
>unable to cope with heuristics and majority cultures in combo
is going so extremely well for you.
Anonymous No.41434071 [Report] >>41434092
>>41434018
If it's so insanely easy, why are you all so measurably and observably bad at it?
Anonymous No.41434072 [Report] >>41434094
>>41434035
and your kind just rapes and beats and kills women with total impunity anyway. you don't care, retard
Ayden !!E6HsAaBdTqd No.41434088 [Report]
>>41434057
>sperg about my wordlview that is entirely detached from reality
Why would I? Reality is far more complex and much more fun than your weird "provide spunk to take a shit in the mens room" delusion
Anonymous No.41434091 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
to answer the question honestly, transpeople don't have a lot of "good optics" as many that are just trying to be normal people would rather just live stealth and avoid all the problems which creates a bias. Plus we are an extreme minority so it's rare for any person to know a transgender person personally. Plus it's a medical condition that does effect minors, so it's a lot harder to fall back on, hey we are adults leave us alone to choose to live how we like, which was what gay people pulled.
Anonymous No.41434092 [Report] >>41434114
>>41434071
are you the same illiterate guy or a different one? the amazing 5 second mind
Anonymous No.41434094 [Report]
>>41434072
at least you get mad like a woman
Anonymous No.41434114 [Report] >>41434134
>>41434092
Idk which anon is illiterate but you didn't answer why you're so bad at rearchitrcting society
Anonymous No.41434134 [Report] >>41434168
>>41434114
nobody is rearchitecting society you illiterate fuck. amazing reading skills. you are definitely American
Anonymous No.41434168 [Report]
>>41434134
>nobody is rearchitecting society
Oh ok cool :DDD
Anonymous No.41434185 [Report] >>41434231
i can't believe this moron used architect as a verb. illiteracy comment is insanely true
Anonymous No.41434231 [Report] >>41434297
>>41434185
>doesn't know "architect" has been a verb in the Oxford English Dictionary since 1972
You're not very good at this bit, are you?
Anonymous No.41434254 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
leftist anti intellectualism, tucutes, forced media and government representation
the result was rw anti intellectualism, ignoring any trans related science, and troonies ostracism
Anonymous No.41434261 [Report] >>41434281
>>41433454
>Gays chose and messaged on assimilation. Tranners demand society adapt to them.
>Gays were socially and politically conscious and hid their annoying traits from the public eye. Tranners push their annoying traits into the public eye.
>t. has never been to pride or met a gay person
Anonymous No.41434281 [Report]
>>41434261
>>t. has never been to pride or met a gay person
Gays in the 80s to 00s are a different breed than gays today.
Anonymous No.41434297 [Report] >>41434319
>>41434231
all you got is Text not one single thought
Anonymous No.41434319 [Report] >>41434357
>>41434297
That's nice, but I think you have a rebellion against Oxford to stage.
Maybe while you're there you can rearchitect their sex and gender definitions to suit your taste.
Anonymous No.41434357 [Report] >>41434416 >>41434421
>>41434319
you probably use further as a verb too because you write and think only ugly unga bunga things
Anonymous No.41434416 [Report]
>>41434357
nta but yeah..... you can say like "this will further our cause"
Anonymous No.41434421 [Report]
>>41434357
Not really, but I'll pretend I do just to further this exchange
Anonymous No.41434438 [Report]
>two illiterate people
Anonymous No.41436236 [Report] >>41438133
>>41433454
this is so ridiculously untrue. Trans are so pro assimilation they have a whole term for it. In fact they are so pro assimilation that it arguably hurts them because the "normal" ones disappear and all you see are the optics disasters.
Anonymous No.41436372 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
All of the mass murder of Christian children .
People take offense to that sort of thing
Anonymous No.41436721 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
400 million dollars in goy ads and a 3rd grade educational level

That's literally it
Once you realize most people don't have the raging comprehension to even pronounce the words in my post much less understand them you don't have to mock any further

They do what the money tells them to do
Left wing "politicians" are paid actors that are too afraid to say the n word as they should towards literal pedophiles who are killing their own voterbase and children
Anonymous No.41436732 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
>>41428345
>>41428356
But that's not what happened.
Anonymous No.41436763 [Report] >>41436892
>>41428356
>trannies now who were basically a "believe it or not!" thing before 2023
Jesus christ, what? Were you actually born yesterday?? Obama addressed a trans girl killing herself (Leelah Alcorn) on national stage in 2014 after it became a massive story online. Caitlyn Jenner coming out the next year was so big it invaded my FB feed. I think the latest you could say the public was unaware was maybe 2015 when Jenner came out. Everyone heard about this. And then there was the military ban in 2017, big story. I saw "black trans lives matter" in 2020 sometimes
Anonymous No.41436794 [Report]
>>41428364
I didn't "choose my gender". I was aware of what I was when I was young and it persisted my whole life after. I didn't just randomly pick it some day.
Anonymous No.41436853 [Report] >>41437062
This thread is proof people would support the Holocaust in 2025.
Anonymous No.41436892 [Report]
>>41436763
>Jesus christ, what? Were you actually born yesterday?? Obama addressed a trans girl killing herself (Leelah Alcorn) on national stage in 2014 after it became a massive story online. Caitlyn Jenner coming out the next year was so big it invaded my FB feed. I think the latest you could say the public was unaware was maybe 2015 when Jenner came out. Everyone heard about this. And then there was the military ban in 2017, big story. I saw "black trans lives matter" in 2020 sometimes

I'm even older than you anon (33). I got you beat. I remember the fight by Democrats to include gender identity or not in Employment Non Discrimination Act (ENDA), they ultimately did not include it but the bill died anyway in the Senate. Along with the 2009 Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr., Hate Crimes Prevention Act that included gender identity in hate crime, which was first U.S. federal criminal statute to explicitly include gender identity as a protected characteristic, and it’s the first time “gender identity” appeared in the U.S. Code.
Anonymous No.41437062 [Report] >>41437248
>>41436853
And it's every True Americans duty to slaughter and behead these terrorist pedophile mother fuckers in the streets for daring to tread on the rights of American citizens. Traitors can all die. They can learn the hard way if they try to holocaust American citizens. But in reality it's just a bunch of rich gay faggot niggers larping as le God kings. They have no balls. They just want to larp. They're all bark no bite. Fucking morbidly obese fat fucks.

Piccolo related
Every single namekian pedopublican looks like this
Anonymous No.41437248 [Report]
>>41437062
And honestly it will never come to this. They don't want war. They just want to chip away at everyone's rights while crybabyrats apologize as the pedophiles kill their own children. They're a goyim death cult that just wants suffering in a pyramid scheme of decay. All grifting and social media influencer wannabes desperately sucking negrocock for attention from their schizoniggerbable dementia and worm infested dead rat corpse necrophiliiac dementua ridden down syndrome club

It's so fucking gay and sissified coded
I'd rather suck a man's divk to feel straight than be anywhere near these submissive fucking right wing faggots
Anonymous No.41437792 [Report] >>41438003 >>41440308
>>41428340 (OP)
fundamentally, cissies still despise gay people. in order to make gay acceptance possible they had to become pseudohets. transition became possible for many and it has undeniable benefits to bottoms who were previously relegated to trash to simply be used and thrown away. this made it possible for hets to hate us in a socially acceptable way again, and now here we are.
Anonymous No.41437867 [Report]
>>41431448
>Are you suggesting that at the age of 7 you had no idea how girls and boys are different and didn't see society treat them differently?
burying your head in the sand is a fairly common response to seemingly unavoidable despair. for me personally het gender norms have always been completely unintuitive, and child me felt genuinely upset that some things were for boys and others for girls.
t. autist.
Anonymous No.41437945 [Report]
the face of trans people became like brick hons and tumblr spicy queers who have a million pronouns and self diagnosed mental illnesses
You had like linebacker tier tranners telling you that biology isnt real and that they could have periods.
It didnt help that the trans movement came at the same time liberals decided to become woke moral police who got offended at the racism of a ham sandwhich

When i were a kid growing up people hated homosexuals but there was a certain coolness to the gay scene. it was sort of counter culture. and you had cool gay rock stars like Freddy mercury and elton john, people like that. man, even the cis people were glam in the 70s and 80s, bowie was big, hair metal guys wearing lipstick and long hair.

modern trans people have none of that, they just seem like mentally ill belligerent retards
Anonymous No.41437982 [Report]
>>41432543
>Your opinions are the extreme minority my friend.
52% is a "minority"?
>>41434057
>i am a creepy nigger but its you that is wrong actually, now let me ask little girls about their genitalia.. to heckin protecc them, of course
Anonymous No.41438003 [Report] >>41438042 >>41438078
>>41437792
this is also true, homos sold out to liberal capitalism, a lot of tranners seem to be political extremists, the only way they are going to make it is by embracing liberalism and capital though
Anonymous No.41438042 [Report] >>41439816
>>41438003
>a lot of tranners seem to be political extremists

The first famous trans women was Catlyin Jenner, a Republican millionaire. You aren't very bright.

>the only way they are going to make it is by embracing liberalism and capital though

It's been a process that's been going on for trans people for decades now. There is nothing wrong with it. It undermines capitalism to have less marginalized groups in society, because it unites people against capitalism.
Anonymous No.41438078 [Report]
>>41438003
this wont work, well be sold out to mass appeal at the first opportunity time and time again. liberalism only works for us in times of prosperity.

the real enemy is the heterosexual unconscious. i know its quite the thing to argue for, but we essentially have to destroy heterosexuals if we ever want to prosper. theres several levels that can occur on, the first being obviously genetics, but thats obviously our least viable avenue. the second is on the level of base psychic structure, and to achieve this would be a feat akin to the christian conquering of pagan europe. the third is aesthetically, by which we make being heterosexual a lamented fate which people seek to avoid, which i think were actually making decent headway on given transition essentially makes it possible for anyone to be gay.
Anonymous No.41438091 [Report] >>41438123
>>41431845
Its neat how this coincided with the boom in transgender searches, very indicative that there was a shift in 2023.
Anonymous No.41438123 [Report]
>>41438091
>Its neat how this coincided with the boom in transgender searches, very indicative that there was a shift in 2023.

There was an explosion of anti-trans bills in GOP state legislatures around the nation after 2022 us election.
Anonymous No.41438133 [Report]
>>41436236
Then the solution is obvious - out yourself from "normalcy" to denounce and minify the fringes and outcasts.
Anonymous No.41438135 [Report] >>41438168
>>41433613
>uhh yeah you can only get this treatment if you won't be a fucking cripple after.

Its medically dubious to deny trannies treatment if they won't pass since even half or quarter passing is preferable in a lot of cases, whether the need to manmode or the public needs to figure out how to accept that doesn't seem like a medical problem to me.
Anonymous No.41438168 [Report] >>41438207
>>41438135
>the public needs to figure out how to accept that
And there it is again.
>the public just needs to stop being so heckin bigoted and change
You're right that's not a medical problem, but it will andnhas affected the shape of medicine.
Anonymous No.41438207 [Report] >>41438216 >>41438226
>>41438168
Yeah well, there are plenty of chill hons, for the one weirdo I see around I've see 2 other non passing trannies who are like "oh you seem cool" and don't really look like shit despite looking like trannies, who knows how many passing trannies I see around unknowingly.

It's obviously pretty shitty to be a tranny, so I think its not really justifiable to make the extremely small sacrifice of going "ugh, fine" to make life much better for them.
Anonymous No.41438216 [Report]
>>41438207
*its perfectly justifiable to make the sacrifice.

Well that typo helps my point, since that is essentially YOUR argument fucko.
Anonymous No.41438226 [Report] >>41438246 >>41438270
>>41438207
>It's obviously pretty shitty to be a tranny, so I think its not really justifiable to make the extremely small sacrifice of going "ugh, fine" to make life much better for them.
Society disagrees, now what?
Part of being successful is leaving behind platitudes for actually effective moves.
Anonymous No.41438246 [Report] >>41438293
>>41438226
Society can think whatever it wants, that doesn't mean its correct. The fact that you invoke "muh society" kind of proves that you have no argument and you are just defending a defect for the sake of defending a defect.
Anonymous No.41438270 [Report] >>41438293
>>41438226
>Society disagrees
literally every society past angloid subhumanoid cattle is fine with tolerating trannies, even the ultra cucked east euro shitholes. It's exclusively goy societies like UK or America that have that problem
Why are we treating angloids as human?
Anonymous No.41438293 [Report] >>41438337
>>41438246
I'm sure an abstract sense of being right will keep you warm in all the possibly social circumstances in which the laws and rights you desire are removed.
Stop rabbit holing on being right while everyone else is wrong. Start becoming effective.
>>41438270
>special pleading
Retarded
Anonymous No.41438337 [Report] >>41438394
>>41438293
I mean, what are trannies supposed to do? I agree with jettisoning/re-educating the weirdo parts of our community but that's not going to stop FOX news from taking clips of them however few are left. I don't really want to throw all nonpassers under the bus because stealthoids basically get rights no matter what everyone thinks and most of us aren't lucky enough to do that. Manmoding is a sort of ok way to live, its what most of the smart hons do but its sort of a shame and absurd when you think about it.

Interesting side note: I was reading as book from the 1960's and the doctor indicated that some transvestites benefit from estrogen, HRT manmoding has been a thing since at least 1966 lol.
Anonymous No.41438394 [Report] >>41438428
>>41438337
>I agree with jettisoning/re-educating the weirdo parts of our community
That for sure. Just my opinion but probably also
>no women's sports
>no childhood transition, or maybe none before 16, and no puberty blockers
>no normalizing enbyism and no neopronouns
>no butlerian gender, no social constructivism religion
But it's going to also involve a vibe shift from expecting affirmation from the world, and also a sense of contrition (at least from the orgs) on pushing too hard for things everyone else didn't want to give. The well is also somewhat poisoned, so it's probably gonna be a decade or so regardless.
Anonymous No.41438428 [Report] >>41438457
>>41438394
I've read some study on trooning out kids, they concluded that puberty is when you can tell much more reliably so that is what should happen at the earliest.

The more accepting society is of trannies the less bad not passing would be, so paradoxically people being more accepting of trannies would significantly reduce the justification for transitioning as a minor. The rest I don't really care about, people are just gonna be a weird and I personally never believed much of that they/them shit lol and I think the sports thing is up to whoever runs sports to figure out what is fair.
Anonymous No.41438457 [Report]
>>41438428
My personal take on the neopronouns people is they are either attention seeking, or basically a conventional tranny that's just interpreting the feeling in a different way (for whatever reason female to male trannies do this a lot).
Anonymous No.41438596 [Report] >>41438968
>>41428340 (OP)
capitalism
Anonymous No.41438968 [Report] >>41439159
>>41438596
this.

capitalism needs a scapegoat and all the big tech support trump and gop fascists .
Anonymous No.41439159 [Report] >>41439314 >>41440759
>>41438968
>big tech leadership has been blue since the great recession
>big tech rank and file are 90% turbolefties
>big tech donations, pac and individual, are 90% actblue
>CEOs do #resist from 2016 to 2020
>companies do free secret censorship for the Biden white house
>Trump wins anyway
Man, such evil dedicated trump supporters
Anonymous No.41439209 [Report] >>41439241
>>41428340 (OP)
It's not the same thing, for one. Sexual attraction has nothing to do with you perceived identity. I don't know how they even got conflated. I guess because "trans" used to mean "transvestite", and many gay men used to practice that. Then it got co-opted. At one point, trannies were just riding on the coattails of prior activism, and then they tried changing the way people think and react to...reality.

When some of you started going after the kids and sports and stuff, that was really the last chapter. The momentum carried you for a few years, but that was the end of it. The terminus of this little charade is the way it always should have been: you go ahead and be trans if you want, but don't expect anyone to support your delusion, especially if you act like a cunt, and for god's sake, get out of legislation.

>but trannies have always existed!
Yeah, and you kept to yourselves. You failed to convince anyone that this shouldn't have always been the case. Time to get back in the closet, bitch.
sage No.41439241 [Report]
>>41439209
how can you type this without thinking you *might* be the bad guy in this interaction?
Anonymous No.41439314 [Report]
>>41439159
now let's think for a moment, why the left is alienating so many people..
Anonymous No.41439816 [Report]
>>41438042
>failed at birth
>fails at manhood
>fails at governance

It's like poetry, it rhymes
Anonymous No.41440308 [Report] >>41440329
>>41437792
>in order to make gay acceptance possible they had to become pseudohets
Homosexuality is a sexual orientation, not an ethos.
Anonymous No.41440329 [Report]
>>41440308
if you think this youre either 18 or a moron
Anonymous No.41440414 [Report]
It's funny that non-first worlders seem to comprehend and accept transgenders better than homosexuals. Especially in Muslim world I think. I've seen lots of chud boomers go "their brains are stuck in wrong bodies" here.
Anonymous No.41440436 [Report]
>>41428371
Trans people are a much smaller percentage of the population than LGB people (bisexuals massively inflate the number of people who personally know people in lesbian or gay relationships at some point in their lives, despite the hate the bisluts are actually a huge factor in the success of lesbian and gay rights campaigning). Trans people are to American society in this century as Jews were to European society in the last century: the unfortunate scapegoat for people to displace their angst about the destabilizing tendencies of modern society onto. Even more unfortunately unlike European Jews we aren't even disproportionately wealthy. But we face the same basic choices: assimilation (it doesn't work), nationalism (we only get a nation state AFTER the genocide), or revolution (the USSR had many problems but it did stop the holocaust).
Anonymous No.41440759 [Report]
>>41439159
https://www.business-standard.com/amp/world-news/here-s-a-list-of-tech-leaders-joining-trump-s-new-silicon-valley-entourage-124122000100_1.html

How is the owner of twitter again?
Anonymous No.41440988 [Report]
>>41431690
>at 7 I had no fucking clue what it meant to be a "man" or a "woman"
Are you a mentally retarded IQ 80 down syndrome patient? Are you really so stupid that you didnt know these things when you were in grade school? Maybe we should just ban transition for people with an IQ under 85
Anonymous No.41441127 [Report]
>>41428340 (OP)
I see the goys are falling for the jewish scapegoat trick. All they had to do was convince npcs that trannys = bad. Israel = good