Thread 41612960

>Transitioned for awhile, convinced myself I was dysphoric despite there being only very debatable signs beforehand (MtF)
>I felt fine just being a woman, really liked feeling validated by men in a way that felt like maybe a bit more than just a fetish but I don't know
>Detransition after getting insecure while thinking over my life history in general and after hanging around those who argued against non-dysphoric types transitioning a bunch
>No dysphoria comes back
>I even like aspects of masculinization (status/ego, autoandrophilia, I like topping though I could do without it—especially if I was trying to present as a woman, etc.)
>Still, a desire to retransition and a desire to find a justification to go back
>I could probably ignore and forget about it if I wanted but I wont for some reason
>At this point I want to go back just because I want to, ignoring any and all dysphoria-centric views while silently trying to present as a normal woman as much as I can unless it starts to feel wrong

Man I have no clue what I should do. Should I just man up or something?

>>41612960 (OP)
To be clear, I hated having to detransition. I don't regret it, because I felt like I was finally being honest with myself about certain things, but overall I never wanted to do it. I did it because I felt like I had to, because I felt others would hate me for continuing transition and that their reasons were maybe legitimate. Every part of it was painful but now parts feel good but I also still want to go back, maybe partly because it never felt like a true choice

>>41612960 (OP)
If this means anything: I feel explicitly happier when my chest is growing breasts than when it's deflating due to testosterone (which only makes me feel neutral or apathetic)

>>41612960 (OP)
Well, were there parts you disliked about your transition? Weigh out the pros and cons extensively.

>>41613034
I disliked when my femininity was invalidated and I disliked having to lie to myself to perfectly fit particular views of womanhood that ciswomen don't even believe in anymore. I even liked having my libido die desu, made me feel more feminine, so likely not a fetish. "Internalized misandry" at most

>>41612960 (OP)
Retransition, get off 4chan, and live a happy life. Please.

>>41612960 (OP)
>>At this point I want to go back just because I want to
then do it? if your reason for detransition was just cause others said so and you believed you could go back to repping... anon wtf are you doing?

>>41612960 (OP)
have you considered you could be something else entirely? have you considered yourself fully?
consolidate yourself and then write

>>41613064
Because I feel like I could probably live as a man and be okay with it, even happy (as I said, I am non-dysphoric) but I keep thinking about going back instead either randomly or when the subject of gender specifically comes back up

>>41613075
Wtf do you mean?

>>41613102
I just don't think you've taken the time to get to know yourself, you sound like you're constantly guessing and have never taken the time to thoroughly think about yourself.

>>41613147
I mean, it's hard to know yourself when you're in a constant state of doubt. You can come across an "answer" that should be correct but doubt it all away

>>41613080
so why exactly are you thinking about going back if you're happy as a man and aging as a man? you dont think youd be happy as a woman?

>>41612960 (OP)
Why the Hungolian princes?

What is up with all these people without dysphoria transitioning? Can someone explain this to me because I legitimately dont get it as someone who was trapped in a nightmare body since puberty

>>41614107
I posted this in another thread but all “dysphoria” is is basic distress and a desire to be a different gender. It’s not an actual complex mental illness. Treating it like it is is just troonlore. The only reason they didn’t take it out of the DSM V entirely was so that people in countries with private healthcare have a code for insurance billing purposes. Maybe they aren’t as distressed and as fruited out as you but if OP doesn’t really like being a man and prefers to live as a women, how are they not by definition dysphoric?

>>41614156
They said they conviced themselves based on dubious evidence, is that not just adding fuel to the "social contagion" fire?

>>41614156
I think its like type 1 and type 2 diabetes. Both cause you to have high blood sugar but from different causes

>>41614167
>>41614233
People are capable of compartmentalization and unconscious repression/denial so it’s hard to say for sure. What I can say for sure is that you do not have an innate sense of gender from birth, it is more likely than not biopsychosocial. So your gender feelings “pop out” eventually. I guess it’s just a matter of when.

>>41612960 (OP)
man up and transition already, there's nothing more manly than taking heroic doses of e and still living life however you want, regardless of whether that aligns with "traditional gender roles". girlbosses are an affront to "gender roles", musclegirls are an affront to "gender roles", transitioning at all ais an affront to "gender roles", so just man up and take the red pill (estrogen)