"Rock falls!!!" edition

Previous >>24551299

>What is Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royalroad, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

> Advice for Noobs!
Running your story like the business it is:
https://www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing webserials:
https://alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

First

>He baked

TFTC!

>>24552697 (OP)
This thread was made by FFF anon. Sage it, don't use it, report the OP for spam, get this stupid FFF fuck off this board so we can finally post in peace.
Three /wng/ threads in the catalog is ridiculous, FFFaggot.

>>24552711
triple-thread displays /wng/s natural virility and massive throbbing writing-cock
see /wg/ quiver as they gaze upon our ability to shitpost at speeds never before seen

Guys... We are still friends... Please come back... Where are you going... Why, Why...

>previous thread still on page 2
>bakes anyway
retard GOD
the rock falls litrpg was funny though, go read it anons it's short

retardbros, are we retarded?

I guess the real wng was the slop we've slopped along the way

>>24552729
Every single time the FFFaggot shits in his diaper he runs to make a new thread.

>>24552729
we're retardproud of it too

>>24552729
SLOP SUPERIORITY

>>24552711
It's not, I'm not FFF anon, the last one barely counted as thread. i have made atleast half of the /wng/ threads. My posting experience on 4chan is unfortunately relegated to /b/ (when i was a teen) is there a rule against three threads.

>>24552745
Yeah man, we don't need three threads. We don't need two threads. /lit/ is a slow moving board, you don't need to create a fucking thread just because the bump limit was hit. You create a new thread when the old one is on page ten or already archived. Taking up three spots on the catalog will bring in hostility and autists.

>>24552729
>>24552739
>>24552702

I'm sorry guys, I'll be more careful in the future, mods please don't spank me. Can we get back to writing please, WRITING WEBNOVELS PLEASE. FORGET THE DRAMA

>>24552745
there's 0 need to make a new thread just because the old one is at the bump limit. a general thread doesnt need bumps and the board is slow enough that it will last a lot longer before falling off page 10

why the FUCK did my twitter bait thread get bumped off the catalogue? it was about to get its third reply!
you are killing my board you fucking /wng/ers!!!! I'm gonna review bomb every single one of you!!!!!!!

>>24552766
start with https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/119783/fff-class-unlucky-antagonist-villains-origin-story

>>24552766
Wait, just review bomb mine, I'm responsible.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/99616/superflux

>>24552760
Too late anon, face the wall, you have 3 seconds to tell us what novel you've been reading or your brain will be slopped over the wall.

>>24552760
>comma splice
You're not the pontual baker anon, you're an impersonator who created this thread prematurely

My name is not important... What is important is what I'm going to do. I just fucking hate this general and the gong farming worms feasting on it's carcass. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred... and I always wanted to seethe violently. This the time of vengeance and no story is worth saving. And I will put into obscurity as many as I can. It's time for me to review bomb... and it's time for me to be hate-swapped.

>>24552781
i'ma review bomb these nuts into your mouth

>>24552771
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/118891/new-life-as-a-max-level-archmage

I'm perplexed at how popular it got. But I respect the author's ability to grasp such a huge audience.
>>24552779
There are atleast three bakers im aware of, me, the og poster, and that one anon who posted the Sanderson slop image.

In honor of fff-kun's mortal enemy, post shortstack webnovels
>>24552788
I am also reading this, forgive me.

>>24552781
....kekekekeke... stupid hero.... do'nt notice the rape tonic i drinked...

>>24552792
>resident thread bum will forever have been known as being conquered by an AGP gooner
my body... it's so heavy... I can feel the estrogen flowing through me
I-I kneel

>>24552788
You pass the test, barely. The secret /wng/ police will keep an eye on you.
I also baked a thread a few weeks back, following the theme of the OP.

https://pastebin.com/xLuER42w
Ive taken the liberty of creating a new Pastebin for anons. I know of at least six other writters ITT, but I believe these were the ones who were okay being in the rentry

next time I get a bad review, I'm gonna astroturf the thread with hate about me and link the thread in my removal request
if you ever say anything mean about me in thread I'll pretend to be you and say nigger in a post promoting your story then send that to the RR mods

>>24552788
>I'm perplexed at how popular it got.
I don't think it's perplexing. It's competently written on a technical level, it uses popular tropes and signals them well in the front-page material, and the story itself has no glaring elements to put people off
How many stories can you name that actually do this? 95% of RR stuff is culled just by the 'technically solid writing' part
It's slop but written well. Lots of people want that. People are settling for sloppa that ISN'T written well, they want it so bad.

/wng/ Daily Quest

>reply to start your timer
>write your slop
>24 hours later reply with a reaction + report based on your progress toward the goal

Word goal of the day:
>1200 words
Quote of the day:
>"For every 5000 writers who could've done it better only 1 actually did it"

Did any anon here ever try posting at /qst/? Somehow my writing input increased 500% during a small quest exercise I did there but that was because I was always put under pressure to write and deliver updates. It was like playing through a roguelike speedrun whereas writing bulk chapters for an actual novel feels like playing a card game with endless rounds

>>24552824
if that pressure motivates you then you should start up a serial
for me it's the exact opposite and having an impending deadline and people to disappoint it suffocates the mental liquidity I need to be creative

>>24552795
seriously though why are there 0 results for shortstack on scribblehub
i would've expected this to be a bigger niche

>>24552829
I'm writing for a serial already but I also got to heed the make-or-break golden rule having written emergency bulk chapters before your fiction can debut with a clean schedule

>>24552836
Scribblehub is the flat-chested aryan elf oasis where shortstack goblinas are denied entry

>>24552816
I've been waiting for you, quest anon. I forgot to post the update for the last one but I was only able to write 900 words.
start timer.

>>24552816
Today I have written 200, words, did 3k on sunday. Just can't get myself to put down a couple of words

>>24552843
>I was reincarnated as a flat-chested aryan elf with SSS-class fertility?!?!
I'd read it

>>24552843
I have never been to scribblehub even once before but I can say with a high degree of certainty that there is no chance of it being that based.

>schizo drama
ok but how's the AI review witch hunt going?

>>24552807
I do remember, yes, was just trying to get away from that hell of a thread. I did get a wrist slap, I learned my lesson.

What numbers would you consider to be a 'success' on RR? What would make you think that you're doing well?

Reminder that Broschizo was right.
Apologize.

>>24552873
To be fair, the other thread has been archived and the drama has quieted down some, so it worked out in the end.
>>24552882
One thousand followers or making to rising stars or getting rent money through Patreon.

>>24552883
Where is he now? Dead. He knew too much.

>>24552883
>the crazy man trying to open everyone's eyes to the great evil ruining our society was right
I am hereby humbled
never again will I trust a bropost

>>24552882
It's a high standard I know, but an actual "success" to me is a top 3 Rising Stars run, and in the medium term, converting enough of those 3k+ followers into patrons to at least be making parttime wage money
If you're a newer writer, I think landing on RS main is a good goal to shoot for. But it's not a success story, really.

>>24552882
The go-to rule is above two thousand followers and above, not a million views, not 10000 readers. Two to five thousand followers. Also patreon conversion over 1k USD for minimum monetary success.

The main goal as the anon above me said, is to achieve status on the front page, ie rising stars main.

I got around to 50 usd on patreon after I built momentum, burnt out, and lost all of that energy.

Which is why it should be sad their is other ventures you can follow. SMUT/KDP. Royalroad is suffering from it's own success.

>>24552883
>two weeks ago a schizophrenic man decided that all the hostile posts on the entire board could be linked together with overuse of “bro” and an odd typing style, and declared it to be FFF
>we now now that he was right the entire time
Crazy world. Apologize

>>24552883
what were his ancienf words of wisdom?

>>24552697 (OP)
I think FFF Anon's goal is to become Norman Boutin.
If you keep this up, your work will gain fame through infamy.
Instead of listening to people, you ignore them, and continue spamming, may I suggest trying to rewrite your slop? You claim you have improved in latter chapters, so why not apply your learning to improve the start?

>>24552904
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24513837

Ctrl+f “bro”, hilarious read

How do I force F-gardner to allow my ads to show on 4chan's bottom page

>>24552903
I doubted him because one of the posts in his screenshots was me shitting on FFF during one of his spergouts

>>24552901
>Royalroad is suffering from it's own success.
royalroad the site is doing wonderfully, and writers are too. but competition is stiff because lots of pros and long-term writers are trying their hand there now. plus there's the lame discord cabal bs that became meta.
that said there is a shockingly large, dedicated readership to find on royalroad. and it's far from impossible to reach as someone breaking in, you just need a consistent schedule + an ad.
i don't think there's anywhere quite like it on the internet. that archmage story went from totally unknown author to 15k/month earnings in a month. no publishing and agents bullshit, just posted a story and ran an ad. Purely merit based. Where else can that happen? nowhere, so far as I'm aware
royalroad has its issues undoubtedly, but we should be more grateful for the phenomenon it represents. it's opened a semi-reliable path to self publishing that literally didn't exist for amateur authors until recently

>>24552917
>knew about RR years ago before the first covid micro boom
>it's transforming into a mirror of the publishing industry as it becomes saturated by more profit motivated people
fuck. I missed the gold rush

>>24552920
the archmage story is 40 days old brother. stop making excuses and start NOW

>can write competently
>don’t know how to put together an ad

is it over for my bros?

>>24552924
a poster full of HOPE
no day better than today

>>24552928
>can write competently
>typo in a post that short
Uh huh.

>>24552924
The jews in my head are telling me to quit writing my childhood fiction and write top-grossing shortstack smut instead

>>24552941
dismiss the jewish demons
listen to the inner child. it's the true voice of your soul
write the self insert slop you've always dreamt of

He’s talking to himself in the other thread

>>24552900
Reminder that FFF was also the guy in >>24539550 shitposting about gong farmers, Israel, and how everyone's work was shit for hours.
Now that the mask has slipped we must do our due diligence that the fake friendly "bro" persona only exists to garner good reviews and sympathy. In actuality, this is a narcissist that cares only for itself and will throw tantrums at the slightest provocation when it doesn't get what it wants.

>>24552948
>bitch about grifters saturating the webnovel community at large
>NOOO THERE'S NO GRIFTERS WE'RE JUST HAVING INNOCENT FUN WITH NO ULTERIOR MOTIVES
bet that was this nigger

>>24552935
shit i need to fix my sleep schedule

typos aside, i’ve noticed a trend on royal road where a lot of stories that are on rising stars, trending, etc., seem to be composed of two or more themes or concepts, for lack of my ability to describe, that in my opinion clash. they appear to be mixed together without much thought, if any, and so beneath the whole story lies an incorigible, discordant aspect.

many of the rising stars with a majority of 5 star reviews have in common the lack of his uncanny feeling when reading by virtue of their focus on one concept or idea.

>>24552948
no that was a schizo from /wg/ who is obsessed with magazine publication. fffman falls into his classification of gong farmers alongside the rest of selfpub slopsmiths

>>24552955
that gross strawman you presented is me actually, and no im not f anon

>>24552946
Thank you anon I shall go back to taking nootropics and mixing pills to try and raise my writing cadence

>>24552958
I know, they're the same person. The random seething about RR being headquartered in Israel gives it away immediately. It's likely he's trying to get people to submit their work to magazines so he has less competition, or some other delusion of his.

>>24552957
it's because a lot of them are derivative from other success stories and are trying to cash in on trends ASAP
it's common advice in webnovel communities to take the story you want to write and just slap on whatever trend to try and get more eyes on it

so we have a new schizo who's conflating all of the different personalities he dislikes into 1 person, huh?

>>24552968
List of schizos:
1. FFF
2. the gong poster
3. The schizo who read the room and accused FFF two weeks ago

>>24552968
I've learned the error of my ways
I will trust the voices
it's not unusual for a general to have one bad personality who posts constantly and is responsible for a slew of always present shitty behaviors. it's very common in fact, because generals attract people who have nothing going on

>>24552968
You would say that, wouldn't you... kinogongfarmerman!

>>24552974
gong schizo is funny af, every post he does makes me giggle in delight

>>24552976
>because generals attract people who have nothing going on
yeah...so most posters here have their own annoying quirks. we're all autistic and retarded to some degree here. it's not all one person you schizo
im the one who has meltdowns when someone in the thread accuses people of grifting just because they mentioned money. im working on it, ok

I am the paranoid broschizo.
I am the magazine dinosaur.
I am Kino-Man.
I am Otocrank.
I am the belligerent gongposter.
I am the meek "can I..." permission asker.
I am the tough love motivator.
I am the kumbaya positivity guru.
I am the helpful feedback giver.
I am the shit-stirrer.
I am the occasional voice of reason.


These threads are just me talking to myself.

>>24552974
Sooner or later, each one of us makes it to the hit list, and once you're in, there's only one way of getting out...

>>24552968
>Stop noticing!!
No. Learn to behave.

>>24552983
He is, I actually floated a short story about gong farmers talking to the type of tourists that appear here, but I'm behind on reading anon's works AND writing my own novel.

>>24552985
and im the schizo who gets annoyed when I see too many reductive posts on what is and isn't allowed and bitches about grifters
we all have our quirks, but both of us, like everyone else, only act retarded on occasion
as broschizo correctly observed, you can link a lot of FFF's posting voice to the same pool of behaviors
I am choosing to embrace mental illness. you would be wise to do the same

>>24552983
>uses an incredibly archaic insult most posters wouldn’t understand
>it sounds funny and very poorly communicates his distaste for his target group
>doesn’t use insults like sewage cleanee, septic tank drainer, garbageman that would better communicate his middle-class disdain for the lower class
what did he mean by this

>>24552983
there's humor in the absurdity and he had a good line or two
most of it was just plain old derangement

>>24552816
Start

>>24552999
He is a deranged shitposter even if he claims to be a successful magazine author. By his writing, I think he may actually be an undergraduate in english literature, so that may be why he keeps using antiquated terms.

>>24553016
>successful magazine author
...?

>>24552810
>https://pastebin.com/xLuER42w

https://moonquillnovels.com/book/white-death
international financial conspiracy

>>24553021
He claims to, at least he did on /wg/, which is why he keeps pushing anons to try getting their work to a publisher.
>>24534380

>>24553016
I noticed him say "I'm published in my country", as though his country had to be delineated as its own category and isn't implicit to the statement
I suspect he's eastern european and got published in some vanity mag

>>24553016
i also enjoy reading Pepys, Jonson, Shakespeare, Chaucer, and mostly pre 19th/20th century authors. you don’t see me randomly capitalizing words of significance and calling people i dislike gong farmers or tanners or heathens.

>>24553037
I meant more in the way that he probably see our work as "beneath" him, so he uses that expression in a way to delineate him as an academic minded high individual laughing at pig shitters. As I said, he is deranged, I didn't mean in the way that reading high-brow literature makes you a literary snob.

>>24551723
>overly horny
I'm guessing you're talking about Lyonettes sister? I really dislike the whole red class smart whore thing she has going on.

Absolutely despised the Palace of Fates arc. It did have a few chapters I enjoyed seeing but overall it has been a disaster for mankind. The Toren chapters were fun but you do have a point with having to see someones perspective on the new lands over and over again getting tiring. My favorite chapter in the past few months has been the Gothica one.

I have a feeling we are never going to get back to Erin. Having her skills be used for an entire massive arch with consequences that are higher than ever while she isn't present was an odd choice by paba. Since the Death of Magic polymorphed her I think we've had like 4 chapters with her pov and it has been fucking Bug's Life the movie with absolutely zero progress in her returning.

>>24553031
No, I mean
>magazine author
>successful
Pick one

Speaking of overly horny, reminds me of one thing that happened in Reborn as a Demonic Tree: two female characters having a masturbation competition using wooden swords. The story never featured sex before and one of the characters who did it was oblivious to anything sex related.

>>24553059
That's wild, can you link the chapter or would it be too hard to find

>>24553029
Added. Never heard of moonquill, is it any good?

>>24552894
I fucking need this. Who gives a fuck about five figures a month, I fucking need enough money so I can work part time instead of full. That's all I need, please.

>>24553016
>successful
im pretty sure this anon is just bragging about making like $100 getting one (1) short story published. he's not making a living off of it

>>24553057
He claims to be one, anon.
>>24553060
I think it got stubbed as I couldn't find it, probably was on book 6.Sorry.

>>24553060
>>24553068 (me)
Here, this is a review talking about it, it was just wild. Dropped the novel for other reasons, but I've never expected something like that lol

>>24552941
>and write top-grossing shortstack smut instead
You mean Princess of the Void? Was weird seeing that one in at the top of the Rising Stars listing for so long. In a sea of Litrpg's and Progression fantasy's some smutfic about shortstack aliens is just chilling at number 2 for a week or so.

>>24553065
What do you write?

>>24553061
>>>24553029 (You)
>Added. Never heard of moonquill, is it any good?
Its just a place I "park" my writing catalog at.
For that, its perfect.
Free, and i can drop links to chapters or whole books, or my whole catalog. Once I figured out how to cut and paste from my text editor at home, to the dashboard and get chapters published... I like it.
My one complaint, is that is "shifts" your chapter number, and you have to watch out for it, and change it and update it. A slight niggle.
Its one of the smaller WN sites though, I think.
If you're tired of emailing and everything else, just post links?
This is my cure for that.

>>24553078
>protagonist cannibalizes a shortstack demon
> :O
>protagonist fucks a shortstack demon
> >:O

>>24553082
Backlogging an Isekai. Dark Sci-Fi. Scary (and hot) Aliens and untrustworty AI's.

i have a feeling there are a lot of backloggers here
methinks there will be a tidal wave of new sloppa soon

before you fuckers post it to RR let me look through your cover, title, and blurb. slopbaron anon will steer you right. your launch is everything, for better or worse

>>24553111
I will remember your kind offer, sir. For now, I will keep backlogging.

>>24553103
I mean, yeah. I for one have given up on writing for about five years, English writing longer then that. Then suddenly this general comes up and actually inspires me to write fiction again for the first time in half a decade. I'm having fun writing about made up shit again. It's been great so far.

I have now read the following 4chanslop
>Reincarnated as a Mecha
>Yellow Typhoon
>Born Under a Black Sun
>Volume 1 + Interludes for The Crow and The Rabbit

I'm making good progress I think. Now for my thoughts on the story as of the end of the first volume. First of all, I owe you five American dollars which I believe is a fair price for that volume. Figure out how you will enable that money to hit your account. When compared to the last one I caught up on (Black Sun) your setting is not as viscerally entrancing to me and makes my brain itch to try and figure out what is being alluded to. On the other hand, you also don't have any shit I think is fucking dogshit in that volume either. Something recently I read which has somewhat similar vibes, at least for the protagonist, is Otome Heroine Survival (japslop) and I will say Ferene compares favourably. Despite being low fantasy, you also somehow aren't a historyfag, or maybe you are and just don't care that leather armor is made up D&Dism (among other details that don't really matter to the story). I don't like yuri but I read a lot of it somehow, so I can say you fall on the good side of it and don't overly exhibit the voyeuristic, exhibitionist, AGP, or footfag vibes so many other yurifag writers do. Congrats. Along those lines I also think you compare favourably to The Hero-Killing Bride, which again has some general vibes in common in my opinion. Onee-san and Giant as well. You fit in with these sorts of titles, no clue if this will mean anything to you at all but interpret it as a favourable comparison.

Other than that, your writing is probably more competent feeling. While my personal preferences didn't make my brain go crazy with dopamine on your writing, it was a good read. Finishing the volume left me wanting more, which is probably a good thing. I have chosen to give a follow to your series as a result.

I will keep reading and reviewing 4chanslop that gets posted to this thread. So far, two have been short and underwhelming, and two have been far above the median, with one hitting a lot harder for me while I recognize the other as (quite a bit) more competently written. That's pretty good so far I think.

>>24553151
>approves of crow
based
the only piece from here so far I've enjoyed and respect

>>24553151
Good stuff

>>24552963
SHIT MY NEURONS ARE FIRING UP IM GOING TO PEE MY PANTS IM GONNA WRIIIITTTTTTTTTE
Gamma Lipoic Acid 700mg
Arginine 400mg
Coenzyme Q12 10Omg
Inositol 790mg
Manganese Bisglycinate 50% 700mg
Chromium Picolinate 800mcg
Resveratrol 700mg
Riboflavin B6 600mg
Selenium Bisglycinate 300 mcg
Organic Silicon 900mg
Ascorbic Acid 600mg

>>24553173
>No mega dosed Vitamin D, Noopept or Dihexa
Grim.

>no shredded donkey penis dust

>>24553173
>blood pressure spikes
>heart valve seals
>paranoiac delusions scream
>short term memory disintegrates
>long term synaptic bonds melt
>neuroplasticity sky rockets
AWOOOOOOOO

Please shill me some regression sloppa. I've read the perfect run and MoL

>>24553208
Lax Demon

>>24553208
My story.
There's also:
>A Regressor's Tale of Cultivation
>My Longevity Simulation
>A Knight Who Eternally Regresses
>I’m an Infinite Regressor, But I’ve Got Stories to Tell
>Not A Regressor
('Not a regressor' is not a regressor story, but you should read it anyway)
>Regression Is Too Much
>Regressor Instruction Manual
(RIM is also not a regression story, but it's also too good not to mention)
>SSS-Class Suicide Hunter
(One of the best regression stories.)
>The Regressor’s Personality Training
I think this one was BL, but I don't remember it that well.
>Absolute Regression
Didn't read it, but I heard it's good
>Time Looped
(On RR)
>Loopshard
Also on RR.

I'll write a regression story where the protagonist goes back in time to save his foreskin

>>24553245
Oi gevalt

>>24553245
benjamin button fanfic litrpg

>>24553245
Chasing Smegma
by CheeseEnjoyer

>>24552974
4. me

>>24553151
thank you.
>Despite being low fantasy, you also somehow aren't a historyfag, or maybe you are and just don't care that leather armor is made up D&Dism (among other details that don't really matter to the story).
i wouldn't call it low fantasy since it isn't historical, but high fantasy that is missing a lot of common elements. I couldn't find a genre that was "high fantasy without magic and dragons" but if there is one please let me know.
cute rabbit.

>>24553151
>So far, two have been short and underwhelming,
it is what it is

>>24553328
Nooooooo don't kill yourself your so sexy haha

>>24553328
Such is the life of the lowly short story writer. Hey, our next work is going to be better, right?

>>24552813
>next time I get a bad review, I'm gonna astroturf the thread with hate about me and link the thread in my removal request
>if you ever say anything mean about me in thread I'll pretend to be you and say nigger in a post promoting your story then send that to the RR mods
can I act like a spastic retard, too?
kek

>>24552810
shit!
I sent you the wrong moonquill link!
correct one... if you can fix... here's the correct link
>
https://moonquillnovels.com/book/panics-present

>>24553366
Done, baka

>>24553378
wow.
the hive mind.
never ceases to amaze.
can you now... force people to read my slop?
kek

>>24553424
Put it on RR instead

>>24553424
>>24553151
Wait your turn. I have to decide if hating FFF-Anon is warranted or not first.

>>24553318
I don't think there is a genre term for that no. Yes the bunny is cute, I really like how landsknechts are a "big deal" (relatively) now, BasedBinkie has some rabbit landies which are very cute as well. I recommend. You are our shining star baby.

>>24553354
At least its sequel will be more novel-length

Fuck this retarded chatbot
If it's so incompetent it can't even review my first chapter properly
then it should be forbidden from giving shit opinions in the first place.
Complete retard lmao it can't even grasp my magnum opus

>>24553674
lmao

>>24553674
FFF-class isn't THAT bad is it?

>>24553674
fucking kek

>>24553674
what prompt did you give it to get this

>>24553674

>>24553674
please stop talking to the AI

while you are writing thousands of words daily I am following in the path of the true god of endless slop, Akira Toriyama, by not writing anything.

>>24553674
where do I go to get such a brutal take-down of my own work.

>>24553715
Post it here. Imply that your trans or something so no one feel obligated to be nice to you

If you tell readers you're disabled and trans more people will subscribe to you're patreon

>#1 Best ongoing on Royal Road in less than 2 days
What's your excuse now, anons?

>>24553736
no cabal

>>24553736
Too busy working on my cricket story
Gotta get that Indian readershi.

>>24553736
I will only read Soccer Supremo if Messi is the hero's wise sensei and Mbappe the dojo rival

>>24553736
I'm not telling you.

>>24553738
Turkish
Indian would be
>i reincarnated in a litrpg world where smart toilets killed my village but wish goddess gave me google smartwatch that lets me see weakspots through clothes

>>24553736
After learning how popular Blue Lock apparently is, I'm not surprised that kickball slop is doing this well.

>>24553736
It's the 15th book in an established authors series, not a new novel. I do respect how he has carved out his own little sports sub genre within litrpg and makes it work. I read the first book but dropped the series in the second. Author didn't seem to know where he wanted the story to go and the romance subplots added no value. I don't have any interest in watching this dude flirt with some random girl at a bar. If it was a main love interest that would stay throughout the novel then perhaps, but the author makes it just casual sex with a bunch of different women. If he wrote the smut scenes out I would at least have some respect.

>>24553736
established author begged his existing fanbase to spam 5 stars on his new story. that fiction is literally book 15 of the "Player Manager" series :/ he did this to cheese onto best rated or some shit, kinda weird behavior
>>24553756
it's not doing that well, it's just algo gaming, see above

>>24553736
Mine got on short story trending. good enough for me.

>>24553772
based self motivator
crabs tremble

Anyone used ads on RR?

>>24553736
is that your story?
no?
then what is YOUR excuse?

Should I write a yuri tragedy webnovel or is there no market for it?

Am I the only one bothered by the lack of gendered romance tags in RR? How are people even supposed to find GL and BL (or avoid it for that matter) if the closest thing you have to this is the bland *Romance* tag, which becomes even harder to tell if you're not using trans-pandering tags like Genderbend? As someone writing the former, it feels like an underhanded disadvantage to building the right audience compared to platforms like Scribblehub that offer wider classification, especially when you consider Royalroad acts pretty much like its prissy left-wing cousin policy-wise.

>>24553871
>>24553886 (me)
Absolute hivemind

reminder to always have these tags filtered

>>24553886
Best you can do is put (BL) at the end of your title. It doesn't bother me because I don't read such stories but a tag would indeed be nice for those both those wanting to see them or not see them.

>>24553886
The tag system on RR is awful and lacking. RR in general is awful and lacking.
Someone please make a new website.

>>24553892
Only catches the honest ones, but yeah.

>>24553871
If you're in doubt, do yourself a favor and read Omaegotoki. It's the hardest yuri tragedy out there, and my top 1 GL webnovel. Professionally translated, too. I'm a friend of the author since his novel's heyday, and it turned out to be so popular that its anime is already listed on MAL for airing in the near future. I remember to this day how it was the catalyst of my dislike-to-like shift for webnovels.

>>24553920
>I'm a friend of the author since his novel's heyday
You know, most times I'm skeptical of anon's claims, but this one feels quite honest. I suppose /jp/fags are built different?

>>24553931
As a south american who specced in english know little to nothing of japanese so I used DeepL to keep pestering the author in his comment section to release the next translated volumes and we ended up as friends in Master Duel. Again, very gritty and great novel you won't regret reading it if you do look it up.

>>24553948
>Again, very gritty and great novel you won't regret reading it if you do look it up.
Oh, I'm not the same anon who asked about yuri, I was just curious about your story.
>keep pestering the author in his comment section to release the next translated volumes and we ended up as friends in Master Duel.
That's nice, I imagined so. Usually people are rather accessible before blowing up in (relative) fame.

>>24553957
>I was just curious about your story
It can be summed up as
>"fuck there are no images in this text-only story, who's talking to whom here? These scenes are so hard to imagine they give me a headache"
to
>"delete my memory through shock therapy because I WANT TO READ THIS ALL OVER AGAIN"
Amazing how stunning one person's introduction to literature can be.

Why doesn't mecha work in novels?

>>24553974
kek, sounds like me, I kinda disliked literature as I spent a lot of my high-school reading time in classics for exams, but only enjoyed some of them. Years later I picked Overlord, and ate through 12 volumes in a week after binging the anime, since then, I learned that I love reading, but reading slop.

>>24553978
because it is a visual spectacle

>>24553978
What makes you say that? I think they work fine.

>>24553978
I'm working on it.

>>24553978
So, I saw the >>>/a/280591985 thread earlier, but I'm not sure what exactly is it about.

>>24552697 (OP)
Anyone post on fiction.live/anonkun? Used to write there years ago,

>>24553984
That's the elemental stuff that inspires new authors in contemporary times. If we only had access to state-mandated slop we'd end up as some lobotomized NYT journos. I like to say we make up the nomads of the creative epoch, since none of our forefathers ever had as much time and tools in their hands to garner free proficiency through entertainment mediums as we do, which is both a blessing for some and a curse for others.

>>24553999
Yeah, I'm not angry about it, I was mostly bored. But at least I can be happy about being able to actually understand what's happening rather than being a drone, so that's worth something.
Also trips don't lie, checked.

>>24553978
>Evil Lord
>Space Mercenary
>Knights & Magic
>Vandread
>everything Tomino published
>FMP
>Rebuild World (kinda)
>86
>Otome Mob
>pic related

Honestly you just showed me that mecha novels are way more popular than I would have thought.

>>24553910
They made that website. It was Scribblehub. Its tag system is even less useable.

>>24554007
>the devil's advocate is not rea—ACK

>>24553837
I'm trying my hecking best okay. Give me like 6 months

>>24554028
Portal fantasy?

What I admire the most in the Japanese webnovel sphere is the complete lack of discards cabals on the path to success. Those authors build their work from dust all the way up to an anime/manga adaptation while having 0-1 comments in each chapter and only a dozen reviews at most in their Syosetu (eastern RR) page.

>>24554047
>0-1 comments in each chapter and only a dozen reviews at most in their Syosetu (eastern RR) page.
How does that work, then? Agents crawl through and find the good stuff?
Or does JP just never comment on shit and even the top performing stories are 0-1 per chap? I don't get it

>>24554047
the japanese webnovelist is much more noble than the western slopper

>>24554035
Kinda of. The idea is that the first chapter starts out like a portal fantasy, but the twist is that by the time the plane lands, the military's handled everything. Goblins get mowed down by machine guns. The demon lord gets carpet bombed. The power she gets ends up being completely useless compared to standard military gear.

The story's actually a VRMMO serial about a superpowered wageslave who uses her powers to cheat in video games.

>>24554063
>Goblins get mowed down by machine guns.
You just gave me the awesome mental image of goblins fighting in WW1 style trench warfare bayonet rush, and I'm thankful for that.
Sounds interesting, are other people superpowered also? Will the portal figure out more later or is it removed from the MC?

>>24554061
A nippon writer's pipeline to sucess is slopping freestyle on webnovel platforms > revised light novel volume sales/pay-per-view closed platforms > (in case of moderate success) a manga publisher will offer a contract > (in case of high immediate or tardy success) an anime publisher will offer a contract

>>24554077
Also no I never dug too deep to know why a lot of anime and manga adaptations have so little author-reader interaction you can just call them any time of the day and they will chat with you because there's no one else messaging them. Maybe it's introverted genes at play.

>>24554077
>>24554097
seems like it must the LN part that really matters, I guess? the WN scene might actually be kinda small. even tiny success cases get way more than 0-1 comments on rr sloppa
i had no idea

>>24554105
im looking into it myself and Shangri-La has 170,000 bookmarks, 80,000 comments, and 120 reviews. i think you oversold how poorly webnovels perform

>>24554105
Most times they do need a commissioned artist and a couple middlemen to set up an LN in good shape, especially if simultaneously translating to overseas, so while I have no idea whether they gamble the budget themselves, novel translation companies like Sevenseas do actively seek them out as each step has less margin for independent agency in publishing

>>24554070
Portals are there, but they aren't really plot relevent outside of being a punch occasionally. It's mostly just a justifification for the VRMMO running on magitech. And that's justification for a lot of other stuff. Superpowers aren't super common, but a good chunk of people are using them to cheat. A running gag I have planned is very important supers secretly playing video games at weird hours and being absolute degens.

>>24554168
>A running gag I have planned is very important supers secretly playing video games at weird hours and being absolute degens.
I can imagine it lol. Sound good, looking foward to it, and good writing anon!

>>24554105
JNC is branching out from just translating Japanese LNs to taking western slopper works and turning them into LNs here. This route may be available to westsloppers if this year is considered a success by JNC I guess.

Quote from an article this year
>The Grand Prize Winner is John W. Rohman's ATLAS: Her, the Combatant, and Him, the Hero. Rohman will receive US$15,000, a Japanese-translated release of the story by Kadokawa, and a future possible manga adaptation.

>>24554189
One fellow anon tried this but didn't make, felt bad for him.

>>24554189
I was supposed to get a feedback card for passing round 1 of judging but I never heard anything.

What's your elevator pitch? One sentence, X meets Y with Z that is designed to hook your target audience.

>>24554283
My story is fantasy Punisher except he's a cute elf girl

>>24554283
solipsistic scumfuck brokie carves a path to glory, a story in praise of the masculine arrogance that fuels true ambition

>>24554283
Double Indemnity in a System world starring a vampire.

It’s getting easier to write. 14,000 words published in under a week. The chapter that I published right now is super fucking crazy lewd though, so let’s hope it doesn't alienate my meager audience.

>>24554323
Also, I appreciate the anons here who have taken time out of their day to review Black Sun. I want to read your stories asap, but I also am positive I will be struck down dead before I finish this book, I had a dream where I die this October. Eight or nine more chappies and the first book will be done. And shit, I wrote four this week. Maybe I'll actually finish this project?

>>24553920
How is omaegotoki a "tragedy"? I read four volumes years ago and it's just a very bland shoelacer power fantasy with paper-thin characters. Sometimes it tries to pull some horror stuff, which feels really out of place and weightless next to all the bland slice of life and shounen battlan.

>>24554028
You might want to try a different approach, because I've seen fucking dozens of fictions at RR with this exact same opening, almost word for word. Are people really this creatively bankrupt?

Finally finished outlining the plot for my first story. I wrote most of the first chapter and decided to look back and read it. It's so awful and it demotivates me. Should I just continue writing and go back to edit things in a week, hoping I've improved a bit in that time? Should I rewrite the same damn thing over and over until it's good? Should I stop caring and just publish slop that even I don't think is good?

Expert opinions requested.

>>24554387
You are likely to change your mind about the first chapter many, many times before the end. So yes, you should get to the end first and see how it looks then.

>>24552697 (OP)
Oh, boy, a thousand words within a day, I'm on fire.
I'm rarely this productive.

not sure if it is entirely people here or also others discovering it, but I managed to get back into the top 800. Thank you to everyone who read my story.

>>24553232
Timelooped is good but this whole thing where nobody trusts anyone is getting tiring after the first 200 pages.

>>24553208
The Years of the Apocalypse

>>24553736
Their previous story (sports autismo again) got concluded (check top finished) so tbey have an existing following.

where my backloggers at?

we're gonna fucking make it

>>24554569
How many logs do you reckon I should use for my dam? I'm thinking about 20 is good.

>>24554353
>I read four volumes years ago
The world takes a no-brakes turn for the apocalyptic right after the fourth volume. That's the entire reason I was asking the author for more translated LN releases, but I ended up just binge-reading the finished webnovel instead. About what ensues next, every single character has dreary stuff happening to them in the way the reader can't ever be sure who dies next, as no one is exempt from death flags.
>How is omaegotoki a "tragedy"?
It all depends on whether one is willing to consider events like Berserk's Eclipse as a tragedy compared to the more genre-fare tragedies of schoolgirls with depression.
>just a very bland shoelacer power fantasy with paper-thin characters
Now we're entering opinion territory, I won't press this issue since you can simply not have enjoyed reading through it years ago, but what Omaegotoki can state for itself is that its success is undeniable enough to have warranted an LN, a localization, a manga, and an anime adaptation in sequence, out of something as niche as a grimdark yuri story, looping back to anon's question of whether he would even find a market for these types in the first place, so it must be doing something right to say the least.

>>24554569
>>24554604
I have an irrational fear of running out of backlog
I cannot even envision a tangible quantity or even a future where I will feel satisfied and secure about my stockpiled backlog

>>24554624
>the reader can't ever be sure who dies next, as no one is exempt from death flags.
So does anyone important actually die?

>>24554645
Eventually, you could count on one hand the inverse of that question

every time i find the will, intent, and idea to cultivate and thus write out my first webnovel i am immediately dragged into the vortex of mtl chinkslop and have thus been unable to extricate myself from it.

how do i deal with this addiction and write addicting westslop instead?

>>24554660
I don't think there's saving you from this brainrot. Better luck in next life.

>>24554660
>It's over... Red dragon dojo too strong... no chance against eternal yellow bear cultivator... oohh is that mandate of haven? back to reading more alibaba slop I go

>>24554660
Tch... So the Eastern School's kung fu is that strong??

>>24554678
Heavenly Immortal Xi of the Crimson Soul Swallowing Scripture has been stealing cultivation resources from the Golden Eagle Sect for far too long. Together with our allies in the Sun Nation we will put an absolute blockade on all pills and other cultivation resources. I swear on the Heavenly Dao that we will be victorious.

>>24554669
>>24554678
>>24554693
the corruption is too terrible to bear… each time i find the resolve, every time i decide to write, even if i wish to do nothing but play games, it draws me in with its delectable plots masked by the hideous thing that is mtl.

>>24552697 (OP)
>went to amateur writing forum
>it's full of authors who bump their samples every 2 days and get no feedback
makes me sad, and lucky I guess, I went to the same forum and event, got some feedback

>yes I write updates on the crapper and publish as soon as they reach minimum word count how could you tell?

>mfw the juniors of the Golden Eagle Sect don't realize that Patriarch Trump isn't actually a righteous cultivator but a shill for the Azure Star Sect of the demonic path

>>24554697
How unfortunate...he had eyes, but couldn't see Mt Tai

>>24554724
Top 6 anime betrayals. But seriously, we can't let him get the nuclear dao

>>24554359
I hope it’s generic, that’s was sort of what I’m going for >>24554063
Do you think the airplane part at the end or premise I give out is generic too? If you have recs I’d rather just read those than work on writing this

>>24554732
You could have the coolest premise with the greatest twists, but it would be meaningless if readers drop it within the first few paragraphs for having zero personality. You should search similar fictions and check out their first chapters so you won't end up repeating what everyone has already read ten times before. Better yet, if have self-awareness and poke some fun at the common tropes.

how many people here are actually writing western chinaboo xianxia slop or just readers?

>>24554732
For a blurb over >400 words long you should tear it apart brutally so. The first paragraph alone is literally three separate statements expressing the same point about the world being in ruins. If it's a drag to read through for an average reader, imagine how it will fade when put on display to the fast-scrolling royalroad user

>>24554760
Actually, I didn't think this was the actual opening, I guessed it was the blurb due to how segregated and explanatory the narration sounded from the events being contextualized. Another point to take in consideration then

how long should a blurb be? i generally try to hook in my readers in three or less sentences but i have a suspicion such a small blurb might not be good for RR.

>>24554767
Cont. This is not a critique against heavy or even poetic prose, but if you want to be overlong the lines must hit hard enough to be worth it instead of solely drumming more of the same information

>>24554769
It's either below 300 traditional style or over 600 bullet points style

>>24554569
In about three months, when enough anons will be backlogging, there will be a coomer type meme about backloggers, mark my words.
>Always revises his story
>Dreams about his story when not writing
>Has written over 200 million words of his story, will never publish anything
>"I'm Looging"

Speaking of blurbs, I find the whole "this is what to expect: a weak protagonist who's cunning and becomes stronger, lots of political intrigue, slow burn romance, characters with grey morality; trigger warnings: emotional abuse (never physical), ..." thing on RR really coddling and handhold-y.

>>24554791
It is but it's the result of a prefelence of free stories. You can pick up any WN without any financial strain, so being upfront about what's in it is probably a benefit. I've stopped getting pissy about it personally. It used to make not want to read your shit but now idgaf, it's just the nature of the game.

>>24554796
Yeah I understand and I know I'll need to do the same

>>24554788
literally me
it's never enough. I can always accoomulate a bigger and deeper backlog.

>>24554798
>>24554796
>>24554791
Time to rewr000000te my description huh.

https://files.catbox.moe/vi372p.mp3
Because I'm slopping all day.
Slopping all night.
Oh yeah slopping.
Makes me feel alright.
I'm slopping for momma I'm slopping for pappa.
My slop goes down just like no other.
If you're slopping too I'll call you my brother.

>>24554811
You don't have rewrite anything, anon. Just post a blurb at the end.

>>24554751
>how many people here are actually writing western chinaboo xianxia slop or just readers?
I've tried quite a few but most of them were either boring as fuck or infuriating. Any you'd recommend?

>>24554845
Isn't Beware of Chicken and Cradle the golden boys? Virtuous Sons I suppose is also up there.

>>24554845
>>24554867
all inherently the bad kind of derivative

>>24552816
damn daily quest anon still remember me?

i got banned for advertising, but i wanna cash in the first quest

the fuck they mean by getting banned for advertising, did the other authors get banned for it too?

can anyone catch me up for the days where i was gone?

also during the ban I can now confirm that QQ is the best forum to get comments from

might do a system slop but i got no decent ai slop image maker that can generate a good coat of arms, so if anyone can point me in a good direction to start you would earn my gratitude

start my timer and lets get something done this week

>>24554875
I don't think a genuine fiction will ever come from a writer parted from the genre's homeland culture. Almost none of these RR authors, if any, can truly grasp the psyche motivating wuxia / xianxia protagonists to act the way they do, so they simply give chink characters a two-dimensional selfish and cold personality because they cannot comprehend the tenet beliefs moving neoconfucianism as the outstanding Asian zeitgeist. In short, it would be as if a chinese wrote a Tolkien-esque fantasy and took out all the centuries of western virtues inbuilt in our culture for two-dimensional optimistic heroism, which the nips did already kek.

>meme story got 1 follower that wasn't a follower of my actual story
heh

>>24554660
You should read Russian slop instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-7u3C-y0Mo

>>24554894
>i got banned for advertising, but i wanna cash in the first quest
How did you get banned if you're writing for a fiction in planning? Did you post too many drafts kek
>can anyone catch me up for the days where i was gone?
/wng/ got 3 threads past bump limit to flex on the catalogue, though still recovering from the FFF SHTF in the last thread which caused the pastebin to be nuked for listed authors' safety.
>anyone can point me in a good direction to start you would earn my gratitude
Use free gpt to generate quality vectors like this though there is a waitlist

>>24554942
suspicious post

>>24554942

>How did you get banned if you're writing for a fiction in planning? Did you post too many drafts kek

i dunno i just post my links to my stories on different sites, must be it then

>/wng/ got 3 threads past bump limit to flex on the catalogue, though still recovering from the FFF SHTF in the last thread which caused the pastebin to be nuked for listed authors' safety.

explain and expound please, i may like to give my sympathies, never ask what i did in /vg/

>Use free gpt to generate quality vectors like this though there is a waitlist

chatgpt keeps fucking up, went to /tg/'s slop generator but all are bad

>>24554950
>went to /tg/'s slop generator but all are bad
Bing works for me.
Tell the slopmachine: "Guide me step by step through generation of X, suggest complimentary colors and design elements".
>>24554950
>explain and expound please, i may like to give my sympathies, never ask what i did in /vg/
NTA but he had a screeching melty because he got a one star rating and wanted us to retaliate for him.
All incredibly gay.

>>24554791
>so being upfront about what's in it is probably a benefit
Would be, if authors weren't pathological liars and make promises like D. Trump to get you to click their turd.

>>24554631
>They found anon's dried and disheveled body in front of his computer one day, his eyes, unmoving, stared at the screen. 2M words spread accross an unpublished epic, starting with a note at the beginning of the file "I'm backlogging, don't bother me."

>>24553725
>Imply that your trans or something so no one feel obligated to be nice to you
>>24554982
>pathological liars and make promises like D. Trump to get you to click their turd.

Did we catch some new frens from beyond /lit/ due to yesterday's happenings? Hello!

Oh the schizo is back.

>>24555010
Look at the mirror before you speak up schizo.
Meds

Uh oh meltie

>>24554760
>>24554748
The problem i'm having is that I want to write the zero-personality story people have read ten times for very briefly moment before I going make fun of tropes or go into original ideas. It comes off like a blurp because I'm trying to get through that part as quickly as possible, but that clearly wasn't quick enough. Thank you for the feedback guys. I'll probably keep that part to 1-2 paragraphs instead or start at a different scene.

Also i wanted to have obxinous prose at the start because I thought the contrast would be funny, but now I'm thinking more about people clicking off too early so maybe I'll cut it down a bit? Probably less of an issue if I keep it too one paragraph instead of two. More brainstorming for tomorrow I guess. I'll probably ask for feedback on other stories I'm working on later since everyone here seems pretty chill
>>24554172
Thanks you too!

>>24555043
>Cosplay context
Cosplay contest

>>24555043
Also rereading this, alot of these sentences can probably be broken up.
>>24555047
I noticed this the second I posted. It's fucked up. Thanks tho.

>>24554968
fucking finally
i just need to fucking it to reference an image all along

>>24554913
the chinese write western fantasy but it all boils down to DND with Chinese Characteristics or Cultivation with Western Characteristics. No in between.

I'm back after reading more 4chanslop. I put Rabbit on pause to go for a volume of something else so I can savour the rest of that. This time was FFF-Class Unlucky Antagonist.

My review of the first volume is... its fine. Sometimes the author writes things in an odd way. It mostly flows and feels like a real story. My main issue is that I didn't find it very interesting at all, the first volume was finished out of obligation. Either this is a matter of personal preference where it's not written interestingly enough to overcome an uninteresting (to me goes without saying) subject, or its written so uninterestingly that even though I would normally like the content I can't get into it. I don't think I'd call it shit, but I also would have to force myself to catch up on the story. At my most positive I'd say it's more compelling to read than Key's AIR which literally out me asleep at my PC when I tried reading it. I'm not gonna leave a review on RR, nor will I give it a follow. Pic related is me walking out of the kinoplex mid-movie.

I think I'll try Flux or whatever next?

>>24555061
can you shill for me next anon?

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/this-middling-young-master-will-comprehend-dao-and-plunder-legacies.1237343/

>>24555065
You're added to the list but don't expect anything immediately. Also I'm not sure if you can call it shilling when I'm just giving everyone a fair shake and saying plainly if I liked it or not.

>>24555073
thanks anon
maybe I can put another work out by time you get to mine
warning though it might get better around second chapter, or was it 6th

https://www.jonesnovelediting.com/blog/science-fiction-publishers-accepting-manuscripts

>>24552965
I will answer some questions you all might have. I try not to troll anymore because it's an addiction, but I do want people to try out literary magazines if they can. I use a trip now so you can filter me if you want.
>Why do you post "anti-gong posting"?
To explain myself and my intent: I want people to think critically about their work, to work on themselves and push themselves to the limit. This can only be done in an environment where publishing isn't as easy as clicking a button. Yes, the traditional magazine market is waning, but I still worked on myself by submitting to magazines. When you do, you are editing thoroughly and writing for a goal. When you get accepted, you feel much better about your abilities and you can tell you are improving by trying to write for a market with curation. Prestige isn't everything, but it's a safer bet than uploading it to the aether, to never know if you have gotten better or not.
>Why do you want others to get in magazines?
To belong to a community for speculative fiction. Every good writer in our field had to get through magazines first, and it took years, if not decades, to hone their craft. Name any big sci-fi or fantasy or horror writer, and they probably began in magazines. My favourite writers all went through the traditional publishing, albeit very amateur, route. H.P. Lovecraft believed in curation in Weird Tales. Gene Wolfe said you had to work on a short story for at least two weeks, kneading it like dough, and said you should always self-edit and rely on your own voice. Kurt Vonnegut said he got good by writing for magazines, because the feedback he would get was immediate. Not many magazines offer that now, except maybe Beneath Ceaseless Skies.
>What do you have against self-publishing?
It's not up to me. You can choose the self-publishing route, but I doubt it is for everyone. Just as the magazine route isn't for everyone. I hope this is food for thought.
>Why are you "anti-gong"?
I do this all because I used to be in everyone else's position, I was posting my slop on RoyalRoad and in critique threads way before RoyalRoad existed. I was a self-published author for a bit. I am not ashamed of it; I just wish someone gave me advice and told me not to publish something before it was ready. Thanks for reading.

>two schizos at once
Grim.

>>24555089
you called?

>>24555087
>uploading it to the aether, to never know if you have gotten better or not.
I would argue that being rated by actual readers + watching your followers go up is a significantly more accurate gauge of sloppa writing skill than one dude or a team of curators with specific tastes picking your short story to publish. Readers are what actually matter.
>Name any big sci-fi or fantasy or horror writer, and they probably began in magazines.
Brandon Sanderson addresses this point in one of his lectures and says that this is an artifact of a developing industry, how that meta was created by the culture at the time, and that he does not recommend new writers to pursue it because these days you're better served writing novels. he says that publishers don't even particularly care if you've had stuff published in magazines; it's a very small plus that might have them pay slightly more attention but not a meaningful factor, and the quality of your novel submission is what matters

If you like short stories though, go for it king. I'm just commenting on two parts that stood out to me. /wng/ is for web novels which are generally long form though, so im really not sure why you hang out here if not to exclusively troll

I kind of want to write an otome lesbian romance web novel. Like "I'm In Love With The Villainess"
Based? How does that stuff do on RR?

>>24555087
i’ve read some works from magazines i’m looking to post to and in my personal opinion, every month there’s about only one story or so with passable prose. every other story is written with technically competent prose, though the words they choose seem to either harm their story from a purely aesthetic sense, or otherwise lack soul. their stories also tend to lack clarity where it matters, not to the point of utter nonsense (else they wouldn’t have been published) but in a clearly amateur sense.

say what you will about Lovecraft but all the old pulp writers, no matter how derivative or formulaic their works were, were miles above the short story writers we have for the fantasy/sci fi scene now.

>>24555127
extremely well i suppose
as a himejoshi i think its based
just make sure the main protag isnt a mary sue and you are set

>>24555089
I think it would be gross negligence not to let you know that I am another schizo in the thread, based on the number of times I have been labeled as such by loicensed psychoanonlysts.

>>24555127
Maybe more a Wattpad or Scribblehub thing. Been interested in that too recently.

I am mentally ill and take meds but my psychiatrist is MIA and isn't confirming my refills so I don't have any right now

>>24555122
Brandon Sanderson might've been right about short stories being an artefact, but I still stand by the assertion that you need to write a short story before you can write a novel. Many writers believe this to be the case, especially the ones I mentioned: Lovecraft, Wolfe, and Vonnegut all wrote short stories first and stood by this as a milestone for any author. I don't think Lovecraft could have written his novella, At the Mountains of Madness, and his novel, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, without writing numerous short stories first.
I like some web novels, actually. I prefer Chinese web novels and Xianxia; I don't really see the appeal of LitRPG but people can read whatever they want.
The trolling is supposed to be lighthearted, but I tend to take on characters and personas online for fun.
>>24555128
Good enough critique. But I see that more as an opportunity to get something of yours published. When you see garbage traditionally published, and you think "I can do better than this," that should be the sign to you that you think like a writer. I don't like everything published in Apex nor Clarkesworld but I like the community enough to read every so often. I also like that they're more experimental, but that's only because I appreciate pushing the envelope. The other magazines that focus on a certain style (Cosmic Horror Monthly comes to mind) usually seem stale by comparison.

>>24555131
Me personally, I've never been called a schizo, only a sperg and autist. What does this mean?

>>24555135
Sucks when that happens

>>24555137
>The trolling is supposed to be lighthearted,
if you're the magazine dude which you clearly are, your sperg outs are some of the worst I've seen both here and at /wg/ my guy. only FFF's meltie beats you

>>24555140
Schizos: troll, angry, derailment, can't argue anything nor keep to the same point, paranoid or can't tell which Anon is which
Autism: can't detect sarcasm or humour, argumentative to a fault (debate whizz kid), detailed oriented (nitpicky), cold and emotionless, lame

>>24555145
I have personas I play on the internet; I don't intend for it to be real. I literally LARP and play RPGs most of my spare time. I tend to role play as an autistic hobby.

>>24555129
>just make sure the main protag isnt a mary sue and you are set
i don't really understand what makes a char a mary sue tbdesu

>>24555150
>he hasn't read A Trekkie's Tale
>he hasn't read My Immortal

its over

>I was only pretending to be retarded
very good, sir

On the subject of magazines, is there any platform receptive to stories told in the Conan style? Not in setting or genre, but a series of short stories and novellas featuring the same character at different points of time without an ongoing plot between them.

Can I write or spend meaningful time reading web novels if I'm not some sort of sexual deviant like a fag or a furry?

>>24555158
of course anon, there are plenty of good slop as there is degenerate slop
i personally recommend to start with self inserts in your favorite work

>>24555156
What genre? Try these out.
SFF:
>Asimov's
https://asimovs.com/contact-us/writers-guidelines/
>Strange Horizons
http://strangehorizons.com/wordpress/submit/fiction-submission-guidelines/
>Beneath Ceaseless Skies
https://www.beneath-ceaseless-skies.com/submissions/
Crime:
>Ellery Queen
https://elleryqueenmysterymagazine.com/contact-us/writers-guidelines/
>Alfred Hitchcock
https://alfredhitchcockmysterymagazine.com/contact-us/writers-guidelines/
Horror:
>Apex
https://www.apexbookcompany.com/a/blog/apex-magazine/post/apex-magazine-submissions-guidelines
>Nightmare
https://adamant.moksha.io/publication/nightmare/
>Pseudopod
https://pseudopod.org/submissions/
Young Adult:
>Cast of Wonders
https://www.castofwonders.org/submissions/

>>24555158
You've already consigned yourself to making excuses for future failings so why are you here?

>>24555160
Thanks bro is there any starship troopers stuff I can self insert into?
>>24555162
Get raped by a pack of feral niggers you stupid fucking goy.

>>24555145
>only FFF's meltie beats you
same guy

>>24555167
I don't even know who FFF Anon is. I've seen his cover for gong slop once before. That's about it.

>three screeching schizos at once
Tf is going on today?

>>24555166
fanfiction always have of them somewhere, but i dunno if they are any good

for a good self insert fic i highly recommend Brosef formally known as Seat_Admiral's Adam Smasher's OC/SI The New Man

saved me from the edgerunners depression

>>24555170
Do you know how to hide trips? Are you this much of a newfag?

>>24555170
losing SEN because they got nothing good to read

>>24555149
So literally "I'm pretending to be retarded"

>>24555187
4chan is for fun; I don't see why you'd get upset about a troll post I wrote. Unless you're just insecure that my jokes hit too close to home.

>>24555170
Schizos only come out of the woodwork once it's past thread limit because otherwise they're afraid of being tardwrangled once again

>>24555194
>admitting to trolling outside of /b/
Redditors like you are so easy to fish out

>>24555210
Take my Reddit gold. Upvote!

We're way past the point of just ignoring them, aren't we?

>>24555219

>>24555226
>using filters
Outing yourself as a redditor

>>24555241
Who are you quoting?

>>24555242
>Who are you quoting?
You, but apparently they have lower standards for magazine writers

>>24555226
Imagine being a retarded crab on both /wng/ and /wg/ and think we won't relentlessly mock you for being a retarded crab.
>u-um acshually I'm just pretending to be retarded being a retarded schizo i-is just my fursona s-s-so p-p-please respect it please
Kek this schizo acts like one of those senile cripples who go out naked in the highway and expect us to not run over his retarded crab ass.

>>24555245
That's not how you use meme arrows.
>>24555258
>Crab
Git gud.

>>24555264
>That's not how you use meme arrows.
Sorry for the incorrect usage, redditor

https://pastebin.com/xLuER42w
Are we including the new pastebin in the OP or no?

you JUST KNOW all the crabfeed and (You)s are making him ERECT
why are you fags giving him free erections? just ignore him

>>24555271
You seem to be an election tourist. Explains why you're a gong farmer, tilling your slop from out of the shit-stream gutter.

>>24555282
Nice projection,wordsmith

>I have personas I play on the internet; I don't intend for it to be real. I literally LARP and play RPGs most of my spare time. I tend to role play as an autistic hobby

>>24555287
There lived a man who loved to farm his gong,
He tilled it out the stream and sang a song:
"O smelly gong and slimy shit I reap
From what arsehole did fetid bile come seep?"
He sang along the river, filled with shit,
And rowed his boat, a laughing, howling git.
"I love my gong, I love my pungent slop,
I wouldn't change this slop for gold nor drop,
O hear this song about the horrid gong."
He rowed as carrion birds began to throng
And wheeled about the sky; they multiplied,
He rowed until the birds descended down
And threw him off his boat, to drown, to drown!
He gave a cry: "I'm no artist! I lied!"

i mentally refer to this place as "litwang"

>>24555272
I say... no.

>>24555330

>>24555330
Forgot the image. Jesus, I'm retarded.

>>24555347
Please do not take the Lord's name in vain

A schizophrenic person might use the insult "gong farmer," an archaic term for someone who handled human waste, due to various symptoms of their condition. This could stem from delusions of others being "unclean" or "contaminated," reflecting a distorted perception of filth or low status, or from disorganized thought and speech (formal thought disorder) where the term is used idiosyncratically, loosely associated, or as an odd but potent word choice to convey general disdain. Additionally, persecutory hallucinations or delusions might introduce such demeaning language, or the insult could carry a symbolic weight, representing perceived moral or social degradation based on its historical connotations of dirtiness and ostracism. In essence, the use of "gong farmer" by a schizophrenic individual is often a manifestation of their internal disorganization, distorted perceptions, or emotional distress, rather than a malicious intent.

Uh oh meltie

>>24555420
An autistic meltdown is an intense, involuntary reaction to overwhelming sensory, emotional, or environmental stress, distinct from a temper tantrum. It occurs when an autistic individual's nervous system becomes overloaded, leading to a temporary loss of behavioral control. This can manifest verbally (e.g., screaming, crying) or physically (e.g., hitting, rocking, withdrawing), often accompanied by feelings of intense distress, anxiety, and a reduced ability to communicate or regulate emotions. Meltdowns are not manipulative behaviors but a survival response, and recovery can take significant time. While role-playing is primarily used to help autistic individuals develop and practice social skills in a safe and controlled environment, which can indirectly reduce anxiety in social situations, it is generally not a direct intervention during a meltdown. Instead, it serves as a proactive tool to build coping mechanisms and understanding, potentially reducing the likelihood of future meltdowns by equipping individuals with better strategies to navigate challenging social or communicative scenarios that might otherwise trigger overwhelm.

>>24555445
All your readers are bots anyway, filthy gong-farming slop cobbler.

>>24552697 (OP)
Ready to put my shit on RR.
I just wonder if cover is good enough, what is worst book cover on RR with some views?

>>24555496
There are old examples, but with AI and the general increasing professionalism of the genre as a whole, shitty covers are much rarer. William Oh is just a stock photo, so it kind of counts, but that's from a very established author.
I would really recommend getting a good cover. Are you anti-AI?

>>24555496
>worst cover
Pic related.

>>24555445
It's some brain damaged wordlet pretending to be vindictive essayist when all his non-grug excerpts are taken from LLMs, root of his ceaseless seethe toward /lit/ being jealousy toward writers. An individual past the stage of complete expiration can only afford to live inside his own mental cage, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

>>24555506
I'm a published academic with an RG score of 25

>>24555505
looks cool but doesn't really suit the web novel scene

>>24555496
Seconding the use of AI, you're gimping yourself for not using it if you can.
>>24555505
The other cover was even worse, though I still hold that the "band album" one was the best still.

>he can't draw or make a cover from his own photography
NGMI

>>24555505
this looks like a sensationalist pop history textbook

>>24555530
Oh, and I got ~100 views on the first chapter and 5 followers from this shit I hacked together in 5 minutes on paint, so you can use it as a baseline.

>>24555539
as the cool kids say nowadays
I sincerely believe that this ain't it, chief

>>24555512
Post your publications or fuck off

idk how to font

>>24555539
Hmmm
If I were you, I would play it safe and just go with a normal AI-cover that you'll find flooding the Rising Stars list
Subjectively speaking, I do think jank covers could easily make a comeback. It's eye-drawing by simple fact of not being so generic.

>>24555546
I do think it's shit, I just made it because the default one was even worse.

>>24555551
hot elf wife

>>24555551
Based rabbitanon

>>24555555
Checked

>>24555551
I'd fix the font but otherwise looks good, wouldn't be out of place as an LN cover

>>24555550
Here. Have a mock cover for a novel.

I'm dropping another .5 star review on your fiction if you keep acting like this

>>24553151
is there really a plague of foot fetishism among webslop authors? i've never come across this.
maybe i just have good taste and avoid the danger zones.

>>24555580
Thanks for confirming my post. From this day anons can just show this whenever the crab schizo pops up to refer to him as wordlet punchbag.

>>24555588

>>24555504
>Are you anti-AI?
yes
>Seconding the use of AI, you're gimping yourself for not using it if you can.
hate it too much

I'd hope to make something minimimalsitic like pic related

>>24555593
Quality over quantity. Gong farming slopper.

>>24555595
Godspeed anon, if you're serious about your cover, get an artist, at least to make some original decorations or font.

>>24555598
You're a fraud. You never published anything amid your obsessed crab life. Enjoy having your entire schtick going down the drain.

>>24555607
I already posted my name, face, and publications. No one even bothered to buy copies of my stuff.

>>24555601
>look top of week
>on first page
Pic related might even be AI generated, and it is generic as fuck, yet it is popular

>>24555638
>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/16476/the-storm-king
>First chapter 7 years ago
I get your point, but still advise you to put effort on it if you want to get serious.

>>24554660
adderall

>>24555595
posting my cover (again because nobody said something nice about it and I'm proud of this one and I want recognition and validation)
I'm also anti-AI. what I do is I get stock photos or a 3D model, pull it into photoshop, and throw some basic effects and layers together until it feels nice
I think it's something anyone can do with 30 minutes of watching youtube tutorials

Does LotM ever explain what "The King of Yellow and Black who wields good luck" epithet is supposed to mean? Klein just pulled it out of his ass as a way to refer to himself. Is it a reference to some Chinese cultural concept? I don't understand the color symbolism

>>24555551
if you can provide the art, i could try something out :)

>>24555670
It represents Anarcho-capitalism, good luck represents shit tons of cash ancaps have when compared to commies. Hope that helps

>>24555579
i think it makes a great cover I just have no idea what a good font for it would be or where to go about getting that. My father said I was a very smart child but he died of a heart attack in 2018.

>>24555667
yeah, your cover is nice (as it your title).
My only nicpick would be with the text.
Rest of the cover is intentionally worn out, but the next is pristine.
It would make more sense if it were worn out a bit, so it doesn't feel out of place.

>>24555667
It's nice, got an horror/fairy tale feel to it. But I fear for copyright issues, which is why most use AI for covers.

>>24554791
It's retarded but so are the average RR reader. Authors put this to avoid getting spammed by 0.5 stars with "wtf protagonist not op by the end of chapter 3"

>>24555127
>How does that stuff do on RR?
Otome isekai readers are mostly women and RR is like 90% male, might unironically do better on AO3.

>>24555675
he is isekaid from china though, gommunism is a given

>>24555670
>>24555704
>color symbolism
I suspect it alludes to the first line of the Thousand Character Classic
天地玄黄
"Heaven and Earth; umbral and yellow"

>>24555670
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_in_Chinese_culture

tl;dr - Yellow refers to Earth, and Black refers to Heaven

The luck part I'm unsure of something specific, but Chinese has many symbols related to luck.

>>24555679
Best way to learn something you don't know how to do is look at people that do know how to do something, try looking at the covers of published Japanese fantasy LNs, maybe ones that were translated into English too so you can see their English font

>>24555712
Oh the luck part is obvious in the context of the novel.
He got swept up to isekailand after performing a "good luck ritual" he found in a ratty old book on mysticism from a used book store.

>>24555679
if you don't want to pirate a commercial font, there are free Google fonts i can recommend like Almendra which might suit the vibe of your cover

>>24555681
>>24555683
thanks :)
I'd have put the worn out effect on the cover but I think that it's important that if your cover art has the title, it's visually distinct as a thumbnail
>I fear for copyright issues
stock photo sites will have attribution rights listed. it's easy to not step on toes so long as you pay attention
same for icon packs, 3D models, and other assets

>>24555539
This is next on my list. I really appreciate you receive reading my slop, I hope to finish my first book soon and then take a little break to read what other anons here have written

>>24555769
>recieve
I think my itoddler device is fucking with me.

>>24555769
You don't need to bother, I read your work because I saw by the way you wrote and talked about it that you had a vision, and I wanted to support that.

>>24555673

>>24555729
that one does look good.

>>24555826
One million years MS paint

>>24555902
MSPAINTkeks…

>>24555832
Colors mix a little in this one, some contrast would help.
>>24555902
This one seems very standard, not bad, but a little generic?
>>24555922
Ugh, sovlful...

>>24555826
AI slob

>Page 10
Anyone baking? Or should I bake?

>>24555963
No

New bread:
>>24556003
>>24556003
>>24556003

>>24555963
Work on pattern recognition