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Anonymous No.24808510 [Report] >>24808521 >>24808568 >>24808588 >>24808598 >>24808621 >>24808783 >>24808790 >>24808793
What "right wing" (socially and culturally primarily) books, classics or modern, would you recommend reading that are relevant to modern politics? I like Junger's stuff and Spengler's (to a degree) but I've only read excerpts of their political/philosophical stuff. Stuff relevant/relating to Europe and Catholicism would be appreciated.
Anonymous No.24808521 [Report] >>24808529
>>24808510 (OP)
>right wing
>Junger
He’s a drug liberal anarchist. It’s fascinating the tradlarpers pretend to have read him.
Anonymous No.24808529 [Report]
>>24808521
I didn't really interpret his works to be anarchist. In my opinion they were more influenced by his guilt surrounding his actions in the war (like his son dying in a punishment battalion) and are applicable in postmodernity where the vast majority of people are discontent with their jobs, condition of the culture etc. I think his stuff regarding that and AI was pretty ahead of its time.
Anonymous No.24808568 [Report] >>24808579
>>24808510 (OP)
None because "right wingers" are anti progress.
And people who don't think in terms of progress can't adapt their ideas to modernity let alone 21st century globalized politics and economies.
Anonymous No.24808579 [Report] >>24808586
>>24808568
>Right wingers are anti-progress
Anonymous No.24808586 [Report] >>24808596
>>24808579
>Black right-wingers.
>Muh token vote!
Good one Anon.
Anonymous No.24808588 [Report]
>>24808510 (OP)
Read Bronze Age Mindset by Bronze Age Pervert
Anonymous No.24808596 [Report] >>24808614
>>24808586
I am actually mocking the idea that left wing politics is progressive, anon
Anonymous No.24808598 [Report] >>24808603
>>24808510 (OP)
Most classics are "right wing" in the sense that they put forth values different from the current neoliberal ones. It's the reason why the narrative being pushed for the last couple of decades was around how "problematic" and "dangerous" old works were that didn't view humans as interchangeable economic units. As the ontological evil to the neoliberal order is some vague term like "far right" or "fascist" that means absolutely nothing outside of a dictionary, those classics would likely count.
Recently as a result of younger generations pushing into acceptance of allegedly "far right" behavior, the narrative has been shifted to reimagining and spinning the classics in order to fit the morality of current-day neoliberalism. Christianity was demonized as a religion for white supremacists, now people who know nothing about Christianity are throwing around curated snippets of religious text in order to shut people up when they object to the current zeitgeist. In that same vein literature, and especially the interpretation of literature, has been firing on all cylinders to make sure that when pundits call anyone ontologically evil or accuse them of misunderstanding a seminal work, they can point to some meaningless reinterpretation made by a "scholar" as proof. They don't care if the homosexuality the Greeks sometimes displayed amounted to pedophilia and was controversial even at the time, since they know that the main utility of the ancients in the modern day is as a set of funny names that help give weight to whatever lie they choose to tell.
So, classic works of literature, edited before the 1960s and read with a discerning eye, can count as "right wing", regardless of its content. Mostly since the term is an accusation more than it is a belief, like the 21st century version of calling someone a witch. Either way, the world of great works before the great infiltration of academia made everything into postmodern newspeak is refreshing no matter what political ideology you believe in or claim to believe in.
Anonymous No.24808603 [Report] >>24808611
>>24808598
Underage post
Anonymous No.24808611 [Report] >>24808617
>>24808603
I understand your frustration.
Anonymous No.24808614 [Report] >>24808625
>>24808596
It doesn't matter because your motivation is coming from being right-wing in the first place.
Are you actually open to social progress?
>Yes if it means niggers and Jews blah blah blah men are men women are women.
>MAGA 2028
>Now let me tell you about geopolitics!
That's what I thought.
Anonymous No.24808617 [Report] >>24808630
>>24808611
I’m right-wing, I just think what you wrote is dumb.
Anonymous No.24808621 [Report]
>>24808510 (OP)
Strauss.
Anonymous No.24808625 [Report] >>24808636
>>24808614
I want cheap housing and for the immigrants to go away. Who cares about social progress when everything outside of what the billionaires want gets you called a nazi?
Anonymous No.24808630 [Report] >>24808638
>>24808617
Cool. And?
Anonymous No.24808636 [Report] >>24808641 >>24808646 >>24808656 >>24808683
>>24808625
If billionaires are causing problems then that's acknowledging a societal issue that requires progressing on.
You just hate minorities and blame systemic issues on them because you're not very intelligent.
So to killing or exiting brownies is "progress" and lefties are ruining that.
Yet you still can't afford a home, the government is shut down, and the GOP you voted enable billionaires while telling you everything is getting fixed.
You're a sucker. And you always will be.
Anonymous No.24808638 [Report]
>>24808630
*sentences you to tickle hell*
Anonymous No.24808641 [Report]
>>24808636
>So to you killing or exiling*
Anonymous No.24808645 [Report]
hellaire belloc has a book on europe and catholicism, chesterton and belloc in general would be good to read
Anonymous No.24808646 [Report] >>24808664
>>24808636
nta but I don't think you realize how bad it is in cities. you sound sheltered
Anonymous No.24808656 [Report] >>24808668 >>24808767
>>24808636
>You just hate minorities and blame systemic issues on them
I blame systemic issues on them because they're the cause. They commit more crimes, often refuse to integrate, and the main purpose behind millions of them being imported into rich western nations is to drive down the price of labor. We used to unionize, now a company can just replace everyone who doesn't want to work more for less with someone from overseas. If you got psyopped by wall street into thinking you're a "good person" for wanting your country to die then that's on you.
>Yet you still can't afford a home, the government is shut down, and the GOP you voted enable billionaires while telling you everything is getting fixed
And here you go spinning this yarn again. It's like you took all the things you're too scared to say to your republican parents and tried to paste it on others. It makes you come across as hateful and unempathetic, like the kind of person that pops into your head whenever you imagine someone who disagrees with you.
Lay off the bluesky, psycho. It's not helping.
Anonymous No.24808664 [Report] >>24808679 >>24808683
>>24808646
I am the Anon you are agreeing with and I agree.
I don't completely adhere to the narrative that "cities" are the future of progress and they have the solutions that will fix middle America.
And that if they're "superior" culture trickles down then everything is going to turn out alright. When the reality is that globalization has decimated rural communities and small towns.
So a conversation on both sides needs to take place.
But on 4chan getting someone who's more skull than brain to cough up a red pill takes a Herculean effort of epistemologically smashing their head open with a sledgehammer.
Anonymous No.24808668 [Report] >>24808682 >>24808685
>>24808656
I don't have to cater to your hatred of minorities.
That's your problem. You think essentialism is how you fix the world because you're a bad critical thinker.
Just admit you hate blacks, Jews, trannies, or whatever it is and save us both time.
Instead of turning it into these grand narrative that you've thought through. Because if you were thinking you wouldn't be bigoted in the first place.
Anonymous No.24808679 [Report] >>24808692
>>24808664
good lord there's a point where verbosity is just harmful
Anonymous No.24808682 [Report] >>24808692
>>24808668
bro have you tried living around them? you sound sheltered
Anonymous No.24808683 [Report] >>24808684 >>24808696
>>24808664
Why would you have a conversation with a nazi? Anything other than acceptance of the soulless economic order that runs things gets you accused of all sorts of crazy shit, just look at >>24808636
The reality seems to be that there is no space for conversation. Speaking in earnest against a propagandist waiting for material to spin into a reason to hate you is a waste of time at best and a grave mistake at worst. People have been killed for the crime of "having a conversation".
So people wait. They keep opsec for their opinions. They let the right people know what they believe, and they vote for people who say they'll engage in drastic measures against the ills we've all been told weren't there.
And you know what? It'll probably be an overreaction. Whatever, I guess it's better than another decade of politically-captured pseudointellectuals telling me I'm evil for believing my lying eyes as the country collapses.
Anonymous No.24808684 [Report]
>>24808683
words
Anonymous No.24808685 [Report] >>24808696
>>24808668
holy buttmad
Anonymous No.24808692 [Report] >>24808697
>>24808679
>I hate maximalist rhetoric.
Read more.

>>24808682
I've had black friends. Gay friends. Trans friends. Indian/Hindu friends. Vietnamese. And even Jewish ones.
I've come across people from all walks of life.
And most people are good. We all want the same things in life. Happiness, community, joy, prosperity, love, etc.
If anyone is sheltered here it's you because you see a black/Jewish/Indian/trans man and assume he's just the worse human in the world and is why you can't get a house and a wife to shag in it.
Gain more requisite variety before moralizing to me again.
Anonymous No.24808693 [Report]
i don't understand what that guy writing long posts problem is i just wish they'd stop committing crimes
Anonymous No.24808696 [Report]
>>24808683
>Why would you have a conversation with a nazi?
Stopped reading there and stop wasting my time.

>>24808685
Samefag.
Anonymous No.24808697 [Report] >>24808700 >>24808713
>>24808692
ive had all sorts of friends too doesn't change anything. you sound sheltered
Anonymous No.24808700 [Report] >>24808704
>>24808697
I'm sure lol.
>Hey Anon!
>Nigger! FAGGOT! KIKE!
>Ah, sorry. I couldn't buy a home this morning!
Anonymous No.24808704 [Report] >>24808706
>>24808700
dude what?
Anonymous No.24808706 [Report] >>24808707
>>24808704
He's saying that you can't see people for who they are because you make judgements in your mind about their appearance.
And then blaming your life problems on them.
Hope this helps.
Anonymous No.24808707 [Report] >>24808708
>>24808706
well i don't do any of that
Anonymous No.24808708 [Report] >>24808709 >>24808712
>>24808707
>I don't hate black people Anon.
>One of my friends is a nigger.
Anonymous No.24808709 [Report] >>24808713
>>24808708
what?
Anonymous No.24808712 [Report] >>24808719
>>24808708
You should try visiting these areas when you grow up. Could change your sheltered little heart.
Anonymous No.24808713 [Report] >>24808722
>>24808709
He's saying that just because some of your friends have been minorities,
>>24808697
Doesn't mean you can't be racist.
I hope this helps.
Anonymous No.24808719 [Report] >>24808725 >>24808729
>>24808712
I have lol.
In fact I've been close in a facility with the disadvantaged.
Probably more experience than you do.
People can be fucked. It has nothing to do with how they look.
The fact you think that means you're either very young or have grown up in a small town and stayed there your entire life.
Anonymous No.24808722 [Report] >>24808726 >>24808728
>>24808713
that has nothing to do with anything though
why are you being so rude to me
I'm not even racist. i don't swear or judge anyone. i genuinely think you have me confused with someone else
Anonymous No.24808725 [Report] >>24808730
>>24808719
Cool story. You make that one up yourself?
Anonymous No.24808726 [Report] >>24808731
>>24808722
Because you assume systemic issues are caused by minorities.
And then tell me some of your friends are minorities so they can't be all bad.
Connect the two or kick rocks.
Anonymous No.24808728 [Report]
>>24808722
anyone who I think disagrees with me is a racist who deserves to die, what part do you not understand?
Anonymous No.24808729 [Report] >>24808733
>>24808719
im from one of the biggest and most diverse metropolitan areas in the country and in my school there were no white people at all
your posts are all so weird and out of date
its like you're a 40+ year old man who thinks he's still fighting the good fight for civil rights
like what
Anonymous No.24808730 [Report] >>24808736 >>24808737
>>24808725
No I actually volunteered and was around "fucked up" people.
Homeless. Schizophrenic. Raped as a child. Drug addicted. Suicidal. Prostitutes. Black. White. Trans.
You name it.
If anyone here is sheltered it's your adolescent red pilled ass who thinks 4chan is reality.
Believe it.
Anonymous No.24808731 [Report] >>24808738
>>24808726
i never said either of those things. ...
Anonymous No.24808733 [Report] >>24808736
>>24808729
I don't care at all.
Me too buddy.
I've been exposed to people outside the school system.
So don't lecture to me about no experience with "diversity" lol.
You don't know shit.
Anonymous No.24808736 [Report] >>24808740
>>24808730
i did this too...
>>24808733
???
i guess this is a bot or a deranged old guy
Anonymous No.24808737 [Report] >>24808742
>>24808730
Yeah, see, that's the kind of desperate posturing and "doubling down" people do whenever someone catches them lying. Good demonstration, reddit-kun.
Anonymous No.24808738 [Report] >>24808743
>>24808731
Then fuck off.
You aren't keeping track of your own posts.
Either make your point or disappear little fren.
Anonymous No.24808740 [Report]
>>24808736
i guess you're like... um... a teenager larping?
what do red pill bros think?...
senpai finna chime in fr?
Anonymous No.24808742 [Report] >>24808755
>>24808737
I have more life experience than you.
You brought it up with the whole "sheltering" argument, and you're wrong.
See you rightoid boi.
Anonymous No.24808743 [Report] >>24808746
>>24808738
quote me
Anonymous No.24808745 [Report] >>24808749
Can you guys shut up!!!!!
We need to mandate right wing femboy bfs!!!!
Anonymous No.24808746 [Report] >>24808750
>>24808743
make your point desu?
Anonymous No.24808749 [Report] >>24808752
>>24808745
we need to stop the femboy obesity crisis, all the low-T men are fat bluesky posters
Anonymous No.24808750 [Report] >>24808751
>>24808746
so you can't find any of these posts now
Anonymous No.24808751 [Report]
>>24808750
i mean there's a lot of posts in this thread i think you were trying to respond to op?
Anonymous No.24808752 [Report]
>>24808749
X is so based
Anonymous No.24808755 [Report] >>24808758
>>24808742
Yeah okay, buddy. Real convincing lol
Anonymous No.24808758 [Report]
>>24808755
I remember being a teenager.
Sorry you're one who lives on 4chan.
Anonymous No.24808759 [Report] >>24808764 >>24808768
wow this thread went full retard in no time
Anonymous No.24808764 [Report] >>24808883
>>24808759
Well the topic is about alt-right intellectualism.
Anonymous No.24808767 [Report] >>24808771
>>24808656
>It makes you come across as hateful and unempathetic, like the kind of person that pops into your head whenever you imagine someone who disagrees with you.
nta, but to be fair the right does this to the left all the time.
that's /pol/ pretty much.
Anonymous No.24808768 [Report] >>24808770 >>24808883
>>24808759
Yeah that's what happens when someone makes a thread related to politics, people shitfling.
Just read Plato, quietly vote far-right, and move on.
Anonymous No.24808770 [Report] >>24808774
>>24808768
There's nothing quiet about the right.
Anonymous No.24808771 [Report] >>24808776
>>24808767
Thanks for admitting that the left has basically become /pol/ in spirit, that was basically half my point right there.
Anonymous No.24808773 [Report] >>24808777
Right wing femboy dress code: loose Greek-style tunic, perpetually barefoot
Anonymous No.24808774 [Report] >>24808779
>>24808770
The right won the popular vote and the left owns both the legacy media and the protest-industrial complex. Relatively speaking, they are.
Anonymous No.24808776 [Report] >>24808782
>>24808771
Yeah but still choosing a side makes you what you criticized him of.
Not that it makes him right but you're still wrong lol.
Anonymous No.24808777 [Report] >>24808778
>>24808773
you're still trying to spam this into existence?
Anonymous No.24808778 [Report]
>>24808777
What. Is someone posting about them a lot or something
Anonymous No.24808779 [Report] >>24808784
>>24808774
You guys constantly whine. I mean just look at this thread one troll triggered like 3 of you
Anonymous No.24808782 [Report] >>24808786
>>24808776
and what is the "side" I allegedly chose? Or are you just making stuff up?
I'm left-wing in some places, right-wing in others. Same as everyone else who hasn't been mindbroken by human-hacking.
Anonymous No.24808783 [Report]
>>24808510 (OP)
I mean
Nietzsche...
Anonymous No.24808784 [Report] >>24808788
>>24808779
Making fun of a weirdo is "getting triggered"? Huh?
Anonymous No.24808786 [Report] >>24808799
>>24808782
It's a fair assumption to make when you made right leaning points earlier in the thread.
But not everyone can know all your political views from a single post Anon.
That's just autistic.
Anonymous No.24808788 [Report] >>24808804
>>24808784
Yet here you are lmao.
Anonymous No.24808790 [Report]
>>24808510 (OP)
Read Marinetti for true right wing, speed, violence, drugs, etc
Anonymous No.24808793 [Report]
>>24808510 (OP)
The Bible.
Anonymous No.24808799 [Report] >>24808801
>>24808786
Putting people into boxes based off what you perceive their political beliefs to be and then judging them based off a charicaturized version of that box of people isn't a "fair assumption", it's dehumanizing and shows a deep lack of understanding when it comes to how humans work.
It's not like a video game where there are different class specs, y'know?
It's a thread based on right-wing literature. People are gonna post their right-wing beliefs.
Anonymous No.24808801 [Report] >>24808807
>>24808799
I think reading literature to conserve your beliefs doesn't make you "right-wing" but just a retard.
Anonymous No.24808804 [Report] >>24808808
>>24808788
...yeah? I mean, there's more to this thread than that one guy having a crashout.
Anonymous No.24808807 [Report] >>24808811
>>24808801
All that proves is that you should read more.
Anonymous No.24808808 [Report] >>24808814
>>24808804
More like three rightoids having a meltdown.
Anonymous No.24808811 [Report] >>24808819
>>24808807
Mein Kampf and The Bible don't challenge your assumptions.
Anonymous No.24808814 [Report] >>24808825
>>24808808
wait, are you the schizo who spent half the thread calling people racist while trying to pretend that you had "real life experices" and that you worked with "fucked up people"? lmao
Anonymous No.24808819 [Report] >>24808825
>>24808811
That's an interesting thing to blindly assume. Read St. Augustine.
Anonymous No.24808825 [Report] >>24808833
>>24808814
You aren't replying to the same Anon brainlet.

>>24808819
You do realize philosophy has progressed since Saint Augustine, right?
Anonymous No.24808833 [Report] >>24808841
>>24808825
You sound like you aren't familiar with the ancients. Start with the Greeks, then get back to me. You need to build up a base of ideas before jumping into the newer stuff, which more often than not is just a modern retelling of the Greeks and Christians anyways.
Anonymous No.24808841 [Report] >>24808848
>>24808833
No I don't.
And it's not a modern retelling, it's a completely different epistemic landscape.
Of what merit does platonic metaphysics have in respect to Plato's forms when Derrida deconstructs the notion of logocentrism in the Western canon?
We live in the 21st century, not medieval Europe of Augustine.
Anonymous No.24808848 [Report] >>24808852
>>24808841
If you knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't be asking me.
Anonymous No.24808852 [Report] >>24809319
>>24808848
Please enlighten us on Derrida then.
Anonymous No.24808883 [Report] >>24808947
>>24808764
am OP, wanted more interesting books that would be useful in (Catholic) right wing European politics within the next 20 years but got this instead
>>24808768
I am quite interested in modern essays, works etc. relating to the future of the right though. Like Martin Sellner, but honestly I can't be bothered paying for stuff like that. If anyone knows any works of the like, please do mention them
Anonymous No.24808947 [Report]
>>24808883
The future of the right is the current "left" but a more refined version that filters the stuff that didn't work.
No one's actually "canonized" that yet if that's what your asking. We still don't know because we're in the age of culture wars.
Anonymous No.24809319 [Report]
>>24808852
Footnotes to Plato. If you read Derrida's concepts of deconstruction, you'd know.