Thread 24822271

Anybody else working on a novel?

This is the absolutely worst, and I hate every second of it. It’s like I’m in a fight with my brain every day to start writing, then dealing with imposter syndrome the whole time I am writing, and then facing mental exhaustion that eventually forces me to stop. I’m nearing 100k words, and I just want this to be over.

I do think it’s good, though. I built a tight outline, and I’ve stuck to it. Maybe that’s part of why it feels like work, since it’s all architecture like factory work.

Yeah. Finished at about 57k words and felt it was truly unredeemable. So much so that I put off editing it for months. Finally went back, and lo and behold, it might be salvageable. About to finish the first edit. Needs a second, but fellas, we might have a book on our hands

>>24822468

Nice, dawg. Keep going.

Yup. It's really hard to fill in the details and logic between the scenes that are already in my head and also to find that cohesive thread that wraps it all together tightly. But I think I'm on to something

I wrote a first draft because I wanted to kill myself. Finished it, tried and didn't have success. Reread the draft later and thought it was shit, I can't even look at it without cringing. The idea is good tho and one day I'll come back to it. For now I'm a year into a new novel (70k words so far, 60% of the story) and I do think this one is good. I wake up early every day so I can have at least an hour to write, it became like watering a plant to me. I don't want to die anymore

>>24822271 (OP)
Yes, several
One is extremely long and complex and most likely going to be for my eyes only because I really do not want to compromise on anything for it

I have one (picrel) that I want to publish as I am nearing completion (110k words or so). It pastiches high fantasy quest narratives to explore the theme of childhood overmedication and overpathologizing pedagogy within public school systems. I'm actually really excited about this one because I believe it has genuine potential, given I find it pretty funny and the prose style being somewhat complex but not obscurantist and the tackling of increasingly relevant themes. That, and the state of literary fiction in this day and age is dire, too focused on autofiction; they lack the ability to actually write compelling narrative with characters different from themselves.

I'm just writing short stories for money, and so far, I've only won one contest, but all I got was a cheap Android tablet lmao

>>24822650
I've read shit like Cărtărescu, Carrére, Lobo Antunes, Ballard...and this is laughably bad.

>>24822650
it's very nice, anon. but that first sentence is probably overdone and will make people skip the rest.

>>24822650

You sound like an insane person and your writing is impenetrably dense. But good luck with your writing, keep it up!

>>24822650
>slender vinyl
as opposed to thick?

>>24822744
I collect vinyl. There are different weights. Older cheaper vinyl is notoriously flimsy and slender.
>>24822731
Thanks, but I don't think it's dense at all. It requires some measure of thought, but it's not Pynchon.
>>24822696
Opinion discarded

>>24822271 (OP)
writers get an advance from the publisher, & need to complete the novel in a few weeks? u need to be busy

>>24822845
>There are different weights.
they're all slender, dude

>>24822271 (OP)
>This is the absolutely worst, and I hate every second of it. It’s like I’m in a fight with my brain every day to start writing,

This is how I feel trying to just write a short story. It is a fight I lose every time.

A novel seems like an insurmountable challenge.

>>24822874
compared to my cock, sure. but, again, vinyl have varying degrees of thickness

>>24822908
>vinyl have varying degrees of thickness
enough to warrant a distinction in your already-overwritten goofball novel?

>>24822271 (OP)
My issue is that I feel confident in my ability to write, in my prose and all that. I just can't come up with a plot to save my life
I am considering partnering with someone who comes up with the plot and I write the actual bulk of the novel

When I get a little tense sometimes I just grab a knife and slash myself a couple dozens times across my chest and thighs and upper arms where it's easily hidden. Very cathartic.

>>24822271 (OP)
It's because you are forcing yourself to write a book without having anything to say. First you need to have something to say, AFTER you write a book.

>>24823217

I wrote 100k words to say you’re a bitch.

>>24822271 (OP)
It's been eight years since I've been writing it and I haven't even finished the first draft

>>24822924
>overwritten
>impenetrably dense

he hasn't even finished his manuscript yet so this is just an early draft. once he edits it down and polishes it up, it'll probably be very good. he's ssaying he's near completion at 110k, which means he's going to cut it down by 25% probably to get it around 80k. so just imagine his sample with 25% fewer words.

>>24823002
> can't come up with a plot
>partnering with someone who comes up with the plot
my guess is you will never accept their plot tho. you are probably stuck in this perfectionist mode where the plots you think of just aren't good enough and you will think the same of somebody else's if they give it to you

>>24822271 (OP)
It sounds like you should stop writing because its making you unhappy. Why di you feel the need to write a novel?
>I do think it’s good, though. I built a tight outline, and I’ve stuck to it. Maybe that’s part of why it feels like work, since it’s all architecture like factory work.
That metaphor you use is meaningful . It sounds like it must be artificial.
>>24822536
If its hard to find this thread than yeah, your book is contrived and probably worthless in terms of real art. Hopefully this work has some spiritual value to yourself however
>>24822595
Good it seems that you’re grown as a person and matured your sensibility
>>24822650
This is exoticized as a profusion of seemingly random detail. You’re following the trends of prose fiction of your era but this is the wrong track for truly worthwhile art. Don’t compromise ever but also realize how pointless it is at the end of the day to be clever

>>24823850
>>24823002
This is due to over cleverness leading to fungibility (this is the key concept here), lacking the naivety or even the stupidity to write a narrative. A lot of accomplished modern writers did not have real plots for their novels. This represents a crisis for prose fiction in accordance with the general crisis of the social process. Anyway the idea of outsourcing the plot while you do the writing is idiotic and bound to be authentic, since the writing is the plot and you aren’t shooting a movie. Almost all, probably all of you should try shooting home videos to scratch that creative itch rather than trying to inflict the world with your indulgent writing which you anyway hate doing. Do you all hate yourselves? Any real writer wouldn’t feel the need to talk to random strangers about the “writing process” like their in some virtual MFA for enlightened racists

the hardest hurdle for me to overcome is the constant feeling that "i am just rewriting xyz novel but with words and concepts swapped around". i have this feeling that i must be very original, revolutionary and innovative otherwise its just not worth it, even though "originality" is obviously not a real thing. its a stupid mental block that i just cant seem to shake

>>24823902
> i have this feeling that i must be very original, revolutionary and innovative otherwise its just not worth it
You’re feeling is correct
> even though "originality" is obviously not a real thing.
It is a real thing. One need only come in contact with an original personality to understand this. It might be helpful to think of music which has irreducible feelings which cannot be explained by the interchanging or recombination of notes. Trust your feelings and do something valuable with your time

>>24823902
you have to at least have something to say. the plot is not important if you have something to say

>>24822271 (OP)
Anyone who tries to flood the world and publish their conformist slop so they can consider themselves “a writer” should stop immediately, all you are doing is accumulating bad karma. Almost all of you who know you are talentless should simply write for pleasure or spiritual development and stop complaining about the vicissitudes of the process. This applies to almost all successful writers whose books should have been burned before they were ever conceived. What you are doing isn’t harmless. At best you are wasting your time on pathetic vanity, at worst you are degrading the commons with inferior work which is not needed and nobody asked for

>>24823918
>>24823934
well, i just mean that its difficult to not unconsciously dip into subconsciously internalized influences throughout ones life of great media that one has consumed like art, literature, music, etc. i feel like i'll subconsciously tap into my influences without being aware, thus making what im trying to say feel a little bit pointless as other stuff in the history of humanity has already said it, if not better than i possibly could. does that make sense at all?

>>24823918
>>24823943
If you really were interested in actually applying your principles rather than using them as a cudgel to get a narcissistic rush you would fuck off 4chan together. Tolstoy's ghost isn't gonna give you a handjob lil bro

>>24823972
> i feel like i'll subconsciously tap into my influences without being aware, thus making what im trying to say feel a little bit pointless as other stuff in the history of humanity has already said it, if not better than i possibly could. does that make sense at all?
Okay, you’ve put your finger on the issue, which is that the important thing in art is not what is said but how it is said. I don’t take this as a dogmatic principle as technique cannot be surgically isolated from content in the end, and all art must have content, but it may be useful to try and think purely in terms of form (this also correlates in some say, perhaps antithetically, with the changing forms of society)

>>24823977
I’m doing my job to chastise the commons and save anons from accumulating more bad karma

>>24823989
Well your advice is bad. One example is insisting that art is about how you say something rather than what you say which directly conflicts with your aesthetic ideal of originality and authenticity and is the source of imitation. You also seem to propose that struggling at all to write something rather than a spontaneous outpouring of tens of thousands of words is the mark a poor work, as if Homer himself just shat out the entire Iliad in one go.

>>24824015
Your comment is pure non sequitur and sophsistry. I am totally right to mock the fraternity of miserable lit bros looking for validation from 4chan. If anyone should write they are not going to be deterred by such polemic, and anyway your use of the word “shit” is very informative because that’s what litbros like yourself, following in the footsteps of your idol Bukowski (or fill in the blank what ever miserable artist) do whenever you try to be an artist, to fulfill whatever craven need for recognition - its really the abyss of the misery of the world, in a sense as ghastly and mysterious as why people abuse their children. Anyway, Homer sang, and singing is the highest pleasure. If you don’t find the moment of creation exhilarating then yes your work will be “shit” as you say

>>24824029
>zero actual rebuttals, just seething
Run along now pseud

>>24822650
Why do you retards always have the most dense, insufferable purple-prose imaginable infesting your works? Which cliché author are you trying to mimic? It's like you randomly grabbed a handful of some of the most unnecessary adjectives and threw them at your first babbling paragraph and used whatever you thought stuck.
I sincerely hate your style, and I hope you stay forever lost in the realm of obscurity.
I almost feel like writing my own novel out of pure spite just to show you how it's done.
P. S.
Fuck you

>>24824393
Fuck off Victoria shill. Your shit is 10x worse.

>>24822271 (OP)
>It’s like I’m in a fight with my brain every day to start writing
Lol, it's the same for me. I have 'thought it up' and even written out a plan, yet I can sit at my computer for whole day looking at blank document page and not write. Then as soon as 11PM hits I start writing...

This is not my first rodeo, I have started and never finished many projects. What helped me so far:
1) plan it out and write the plan - the plan should just be general plot in like 10 points and characters
2) do not write in order - when you get an idea for a chapter, write that chapter
3) write even if it's shit, try to view your text uncritically WHEN writing, leave the critique for after you are done (this is the hardest for me)
4) NO DREAM SEQUENCES (this is personal)

Anyway here's a beginning of a recent chapter I wrote, I am ESL, so I translated it with AI and edited the translation to be more precise. I edited out character names, so if I am ever done, nobody will be able to proove I posted here.
I feel like my writing isn't wordy / descriptive enough but idk, I find wordy text outside of 19th century to be an 'attempt at artistry' - if you are not one of select unique writers who can pull it off.

>>24823881
>truly worthwhile art
What are the qualities possessed by the above, according to you?

>>24823881
>realize how pointless it is at the end of the day to be clever
That's like something Hemingway would say.

>>24824443
I have no idea who you are referring to, you schizo. You are an embarrassment, and the stereotypical /lit/ user. With you people, it's never "Emily relaxed as she drank her favorite tea." Instead, it's always "Emily languidly sipped upon her most favored breakfast tea, as the warm, subtly steaming, life-giving elixir coated the inside of her dainty mouth and pearly-white teeth, upon which she girlishly swallowed".

Die.

>>24822271 (OP)
Ugh you outlined it? No wonder it's been grueling

>>24824449
Honestly one of the better things I've read on here. Interested to read more

>>24824449

>I can sit at my computer for whole day looking at blank document page and not write. Then as soon as 11PM hits I start writing...

Same. I struggle during the day, but around 10 pm I can actually start, and end up writing until 3 am.

>>24824574
George?

>>24824449
>>24824596
Glad to know I'm not the only one having this problem.

>>24822650
i liked it :) don't let people who hate dense writing keep you down

It is the most demoralizing endeavor I've ever embarked on. Not only because my own work doesn't sniff at the standard I wish it had, but also because it's still unpublishable since modern fiction readers are retarded.

>>24824459
Cleanliness and purity (now one should define this and its hard to because even filthy works like in Joyce can have this quality, or at least maintain it despite the content; its almost a sensation)—this is the first and most important barrier, and works like that of >>24824471 Hemingway (early), regardless of how minor it is, clears this. The focus here is the technique.
Then intelligence which is basically the same thing. The one of the keys to intelligence is it has no desire to appear as smart (and a willingness to appear as a fool if necessary, it clarifies reality through heightened perception, removing (going back to purity) extraneous matters. What is more important than what you do say is what you don’t say because there are millions of ways you could say something, but you are only to choose one.
The greatest art is ultimately in the same line as Jesus, a tangible overcoming of darkness and a work of redemption (of some kind). This probably isn’t obvious to most people experiencing such works. It’s likely most obvious in Beethoven.
And then what are the sources? What causes something to be made?
The kind of mind or consciousness that actually goes to shape to elements. When artists say the trust their subconscious they often can preform better than they really are, day to day, because they trust in sources deeper than animal vanity or “wanting to be a writer” or wanting to have written a book, wanting to finish my novel and have a book, which can only produce worthless art.
No one is perfect but its a matter of what parts of your subjectivity that you put your trust in.

>>24824619
Your snobbery and pompousness makes me sick to my stomach.
You are very performative.

>>24824628
I wonder why you think that. The last people I desire to impress are the people here

>>24824630
...So you claim, after writing out a rambling paragraph regarding your takes on "Cleanliness", "purity", "intelligence", "Beethoven", and "Jesus" designed to make you look eloquent, cultured, and intelligent.
I see right through you, you haughty clown.
Eugh.

>>24824511
> "Emily languidly sipped upon her most favored breakfast tea, as the warm, subtly steaming, life-giving elixir coated the inside of her dainty mouth and pearly-white teeth, upon which she girlishly swallowed"
/lit/ BTFO kek

>>24824645
Its rambling because I gave my untutored thoughts and pretentious because, I don’t know, I used words? What kind of discourse or writing is appropriate to you? Everything I said is true and at least trying to approach the truth. I honestly don’t understand your reaction at all, what did I say that made your stomach sick?

>>24822650
holy fuck please tell me you don't actually write like that
that's a shitpost, right?
that is literally word for word a moron's idea of how a gifted, intelligent author would write
i bet you felt like Dostoevsky as you wrote that cringe shit out, wtf

>>24824619
Ulysses took almost a decade to write and is palpably contrived along with most of Joyce's pastiches and allegories and commentaries disguised as art which could have been written many different ways because the emotion is either absent or subject to the ideas they're mapped to. It's insane you can ramble about artificiality and whatnot then immediately reveal you lack discerning sense

>>24822650
hysterical realismbros... i'm thinking we're back

>>24824718
Your position is untenable. While the organization of Ulysses is contrived, Joyce had a perfect ear and was a master of language which is what gives him his purity of style. To deny this is to go against the fundamental aesthetics of language and exile yourself to an intellectual ghetto. You can question his use of his talent - I’m really mot interested in discussing the merits or the demerits of Joyce, more so in the hidden sources of your inferiority complex. ;) There’s nothing insane about this position, your indignation is absurd and, it now seems to me, obviously performative. ;)

>>24822650
It's good anon. I mean it's a very specific effect that not everyone will care for, and there's a word choice here and there that I think tips over the edge of trying too hard, but I'd much rather carry on reading this than more McCarthy slop. Will u post any more?

>>24824745
Joyce also wrote fart porn, bro
And he regularly ate his wife's big, meaty, corn-filled shits
You couldn't pay me this much to defend a fart fetishist/scat-lover

>>24824745
>spend the whole thread asserting people's work is contrived and artificial and therefore worthless and a malevolent waste of time
>While the organization of Ulysses is contrived... [it's still good!]
>There’s nothing insane about this position
Lol. Okay anon. Idk what neurosis you suffer from but maybe resolve your dissonance next time before attempting to fatally dunk on others

>>24822650
bretty gud bro, don't listen to the niggers here

>>24824781
>>24824787
This place is truly a sewer. I only mentioned Joyce somas to indicate that this purity is not necessarily religious. There’s no contradiction there, or only would be from the standpoint of a very blunt and dull reason. I shouldn’t have to explain how a work can be contrived in some ways and non in others (the latter being where the value comes from). But yes, your novel is progress is garbage and you should give it up and do something useful with your life.

>>24824885
>I shouldn’t have to explain how a work can be contrived in some ways and non in others (the latter being where the value comes from)
>after dismissing out of hand in the most contentious way work I know nothing about on the basis that it's contrived
Not how things work
>But yes, your novel is progress is garbage and you should give it up and do something useful with your life.
Projecting and malding

How is it?

>>24824967
hamberder/10
Bonus points for a man named "Dong", make his first name "Expand"

Here’s a weird dreamily flashback scene after passing out. Let me know if I suck and should kill myself.

>>24825070
Man, what the fuck? Did bro hallucinate Twilight Sparkle or some shit? Pretty interesting read, actually- consider not killing yourself just yet!

>>24825103

Thanks. That earned me one more day.

The MC thinks he’s chosen by God. But later discovers that in his delirium, he was mistaken. It wasn’t a unicorn, but a Saracen horse with a crusader’s sword pierced through its head, dripping blood from the pommel beneath its jaw. And he laments that his life has lost all purpose.

>>24824619
Don't quit your day job, chief.

>>24825131
sounds interesting. hope you can pull it off for 50k words

>>24825070
are you sure this isn't AI slop?

>>24822271 (OP)
I've written two unpublished fantasy novels and am busy with a spinoff novel that will tie into the third in the trilogy. The framework is Tolkienian but Dosto's Demons has been a huge influence on me. I'm 330 pages into the manuscript, probably have 50-70 more to go before part 1 is finished. I've been through some slumps this year but since I'm nearing a transitional point in the narrative I'm feeling pretty good about it. That and it has my strongest cast of characters to date. I'm getting a lot of stuff out of my head and onto the page, which is always strange because it never happens exactly as I envision it, but I'm glad it's happening.

>>24825070
i liked it anon, keep it up

>>24825162

Nah, I wrote it.

>>24823902
Can you please people who liked XYZ novel and want more of something similar?
I read _Old Man’s War_ by John Scalzi (not exactly high literature, there) and liked it. Then I went and read _Starship Troopers_, the work that it was very clearly and explicitly based on (Scalzi is, or at least was, refreshingly direct and straightforward on how his writing is a _business_), and I liked that, too.
>>24822468
Gratz on finding a way to be So Back!
>>24824967
it needs some polish and commas and the burgers sound like they’re crap by school-cafeteria standards (i.e. how in the hell do they stay in business?) but _I_ like it because I like talking about burgers

>>24825185
>I've written two unpublished fantasy novels
it
>and am busy with a spinoff novel that will tie into the third in the trilogy.
keeps
>The framework is Tolkienian
getting
>but Dosto's Demons has been a huge influence on me.
worse

>>24822271 (OP)
I'm writing about a cute Russian princess!

>>24825269
yes we have all heard about your cuck fantasies. imagine creating a beautiful russian princess only to have her endlessly blacked and jeeted

>>24822650
Overall I like it, I think there are some very compelling parts, but I do find some sentences of it to be a bit too dense. I think the first sentence has a bit too much going on in it. I like the damp morning newspaper being compared to the birds in the sky. But maybe you could phrase it all a bit shorter? Maybe like 'Crows pass a pale autumn sky forming a silhouette of bleeding ink like a still damp newspaper' - Obviously that's just an example of where I would personally take it, but you should of course keep your own voice and form sentences in your style. Just maybe cut back a bit with descriptions at times imo. That being said I do actually really think it's captivating and unique. I liked 'the mystery preserved its sanctity' and a lot of other sentences that were more direct.
Btw, do you have any ties to Czechia or just interested in it?

>>24825338
fiction takes inspiration from reality!

>>24824393
the only people who go to this effort of crabbing are genuinely artistically worthless people. seethe anon

>>24824393
that excerpt is perfectly readable anon, nothing purple about it. are you brown by any chance?

>>24825352
I love Czech New Wave cinema because I love excess in art. Part of this novel takes a lot from those sorts of films (Daisies, Fireman's Ball etc)
Of course like the other anon said, I'm nearing the end of the manuscript and so I am looking to cutting about 25% of the novel.

I really genuinely love dense literature. I love when seemingly random and mundane things add up and have an effect on the characters and setting in subtle ways. The point of the passage is to further illustrate this character being a New England freak-folk/new age hippie because it will eventually be revealed that she is a closeted Calvinist obsessed with predestination and her "act" is a ploy "pushed" on her by some of the other moms in her daughter's school district.

Inb4: "it doesn't have to be that dense, just say what you want to say clearly"
I'm not writing an essay. Some other anon mentioned Hysterical Realism and although I am not really a fan of Zadie Smith, I like what she and the others were going for. I hope to sort of expand onto that by writing about micro-niches and their hyperreal overlap. It is a big foundation of all of my writing work, across all of my projects.

Here is a less dense sample from the same WIP.

>>24825511
well anon, based on these excerpts, i think you can rest easy with the knowledge that unlike most other people on this board you Can Actually Write. if you're looking to get polite society-published in the near future you should probably refrain from posting any further material, even if it's WIP

>>24825522
This is true, but I also have half a mind to not believe random editors know how to use warosu

Regardless, my extreme OCD often makes me question myself. It's the classic problem of being unable to trust my own emotions despite being very well read. Nothing is ever good enough. On the one hand, maximalist fans tend to like what I write because it really is an honest byproduct of my obsessive unconscious, but on the other, fans of minimalism will seethe.

>>24824733
Isn't hysterical realism more about ornate and unbelievable plotlines?

>>24824577
here you go, it is not continuation of the scene. The first excerpt was from somewhere in the last third, this is from the beginning.

>>24825575
no

>>24825511
I really like this (and the previous one as well). Have you had anything published before?

>>24825928
Thank you. Yes, a few shorts and poetry published with a local lit journal. Actually this evening I am going to be going to a networking event affiliated with this journal.

>>24822650
It's not bad, but what I advise is that you take the time to read your sentences aloud. That will reduce much of the clunkiness. It's not that long sentences are bad, it's that they have to have a good rhythm to them either way.

Remember what Don Nicolas Gomez Davila (pbuh) said: "the writer who does not torture his sentences tortures his readers."

>>24826814
Dude's not going to do that. Someone with a corny writing style that bursting at the seams with unneeded adjectives and prose is going to revel in clunkiness because it makes them feel witty, inspired and educated.
Any author that willingly obfuscates their work in endless layers of purple prose is a pretentious douchebag that will never stop doing so, let's be real

>>24827020
brown hands typed this post

>>24827040
...You aren't white, Muhammad.
Relax

>>24827040
i'm going to strangle you to death

>>24822650
Anyone complaining about this being overly complex is outing themselves as a retard.

>>24827428
The real retards are those that can't distinguish the text from purple prose and comprehension

>>24827428
Anyone not complaining about this being overtly complex is outing themselves as a retard. Death to all useless purple prose faggotry ASAP

>The real retards are those that can't distinguish the text from purple prose and comprehension

>Anyone not complaining about this being overtly complex is outing themselves as a retard. Death to all useless purple prose faggotry ASAP

>>24827499
Back to jerking off to Infinite Jest, gaylord
YWNBAW

>>24827454
>>24827491
Go back to reading Sanderson immediately. No one with any self respect likes you.

>>24827499
>saars i am not comprehending this purple benchod does miss bradley show bobs and vagene or nod

>>24822650
I'm >>24825352 and I agree with >>24826814 about reading the sentences out loud and with the rhythm. Just for my own experience, I read and listen to audio books (like I'm sure most of you) so whenever I write I try to have it be something that looks good on the page, but also would sound good if someone read it aloud. Maybe in hindsight that was my one criticism of it, not that it's too dense necessarily but at times the denseness makes it a bit choppy?

But I do genuinely like it and I'm only giving criticism because it's already good. Once again, you should obviously prioritize your own voice, but this is just feedback from a hypothetical reader. Also, I lived in Czechia for a little bit so I love the country too. I'll have to look into some of those films!


>>24825070
I like it. One critique would maybe to phrase sentences so that you use he/his/felix a little less in your writing. For example I might rewrite the sentence as, "Discarded among broken bodies, his own blood staining the desert sand" or also "He had been saved by the divine, chosen by God." or "Mind awaking before body, trapped in a sightless unmoving shell, he mustered all possible strength to open his eyes."

That is just personally something I'd do but the sentences I wrote are just quick examples to demonstrate my point, obviously take it in any direction you'd want to. Don't joke about suicide though :(

>>24822271 (OP)
It's really hard, it's probably the hardest thing I ever did in my life, even if it does not necessarily feel this way. I am a very intelligent person, my prose is beautiful, but I have a tremendously hard time to wrap this all into a cohesive package and to get a silent narrative woven into all of this. I assume it could be easier if I did not hold myself and the novel to a high standard but why write if you don't want to produce something worthy of your own efforts?

>>24822650
I don't want to be rude but the first sentence sounds like AI slop and the rest sounds like you tried way too hard to sound intelligent. It does not sound intelligent.

>>24823902
Most if not all books are like this. Everything humans write is from the same source. Even authors will re-hash the same plot points throughout their writing career, especially when they become old and start to lose it mentally. Music is like that too. It's not necessarily something negative. People reread the work they like and listen back to music they like. Like writing a Christ allegory is not bad just because the New Testament already exists. If you read enough you realize at some point everything is derivative anyway.

>>24824511
I'm not that anon but purple prose is not necessarily bad if you are prudent with your words. Here's how I would improve upon it:
>Emily sipped upon her favored tea, as the warm, subtly steaming, tawny elixir coated her pearly-white teeth and upon which she girlishly swallowed. The tea had been imported from India, the best country in the world. If you wish to drink the same tea as Emily, buy Tata Tea. Tata Tea: Grow Beyond Better - Innovate today, Transform tomorrow"

>>24822271 (OP)
Yes, spent 2 years on it. Finally finished reading it last week.

>>24828398
You sound insecure.

>>24829275
no you sound insecure

>>24822650
This is the only decent writing in the thread good job anon you clearly have the basics of innovation down don't be downhearted it's clear they don't understand artistry or even the basics of art since nobody in this thread claimed to be an artist.

>>24822650
easy on the adjectives hombre

>>24825262
>It keeps getting worse
Your mother seemed to enjoy the excerpt I read to her last night.

How's my start?

>>24824511
Best post currently on the board (not hard)

>>24829902
Yeah? And did you read her an excerpt from the book of gay retards, perhaps?
Methinks so! Tee-hee

>>24829960
>the book of gay retards
I didn't read her your autobiography

>>24822271 (OP)
>I built a tight outline
Yes, have the first draft finished but it's a bit light on words
I never outline
I see these chicks on boobtube with a wall covered in plot points or whatever
Like, can't you keep the story in your head?

>>24829976

No one can. Don’t pretend.