Thread 24854814

What books should I read if I want to develop Dark Triad traits? I've already read 48 Laws of Power and How to Win Friends and Influence People

>>24854814 (OP)
I miss being young, then again, I was never this retarded.

>>24854814 (OP)
You either have it or you don't.

>>24854814 (OP)
You’re full blown retarded which can definitely be viewed as a dark triad trait. As for developing narcissism, trust me, you don’t want it.

>>24854814 (OP)
2/3 of these are inborn traits

>>24854946
Narcissism and psycopathy?
Because Machiavellianism can be cultivated.

>>24854814 (OP)
You can't.
You either have the genes or the cold cruel upbringing that the average kid has in India, Russia, Africa, Poland, Estonia.
If you're born in a normal stable family, had a normal childhood, and act like a normal person with a good conscience (which means you have above average IQ to understand the long benefits of prosocial behaviours), you're unlikely to develop psychopathic traits. And if you try, you'll start suffering from guilt because it will go against your own genetic hardware.
And why would you want to be a cluster B retard? The last meta is that high IQ is related to prosocial behaviour, the opposite of cluster B. The same with impulsivity: the more IQ you have, the less impulsive you tend to be. The notion of high IQ and psychopathy is as outdated as the humoral theory of disease.
About autism. High functioning autists may look psychopathic from normie view, but it's a very wrong view to equate their behaviour with that of cluster B retards. Autists can be really emphatic and care deeply about friends, which is something cluster B have a genetic inability to because they're the ones born retarded.

>>24854983
>understand the long benefits of prosocial behaviours
such as? kek

>>24854983
I must say I was the nicest kid in school but college made a man out of me. It can be learnt, but the process is indescribable. One must just practice, learn and theorise till success.

>>24854983
i agree that these are forms of selective retardation, but i don't think you're correct about them being related to "harsh" second/third-world upbringing, particularly when it comes to narcissism. narcissism is far more mainstream in america than in eastern europe and even in eastern europe seems in my experience to be correlated with wealth. for the highest chance of meeting a severe narcissist you want to be looking at affluent americans that grew up with no material problems and were raised chiefly by media. there's a reason they call it "main character syndrome" and that it spiked so much in genxers, ie generally well-off latch-key kids raised by the tv. today's trannyism, a cultural manifestation of extreme narcissism, is radiating from the united states outwards onto the less-developed world, not the other way around.

>>24855007
nta but the simple fact that prosocial behaviors strengthen social structures that give you and your offspring long-term benefits. prosociality is a long-term investment in the survival and wellbeing of your bloodline, whereas antisocial cluster b behaviors constitute the "cashing in" of short-term benefits at the price of undermining the institutions of your own society. and what is "cashed in," for psychos and narcissists, is very often not anything of material importance they could build their own alternative institutions on on but short-term hedonistic pleasure, feelings of validation and so on.

i know everyone's tired of talking about trannies but seeing as they display absurd levels of narcissism they are the best example of this behavior in the public arena. a tranny gets his kicks out of getting others to participate in his sexual fetish, or out of antagonizing normal people so as to validate his feelings of victimization and so on, and doesn't care about the crippling damage he's doing to long-term tranny acceptance, or the rights of other minorities he associates himself with, or the pr image of political parties that support his rights and so on. he will use his manipulative tactics to infiltrate these organizations and use them for his own short-term satisfaction until they collapse around him, burying him in the rubble. that's the fate of cluster b freaks.

>>24855007
Doing the will of our unconquerable lord and savior Jesus Christ, that we might be party to his unspeakable glory, on to the ages of ages.

>>24855050
I don’t disagree completely, however trannies are an example of a very extreme en colorful type of narcissism that is very easy to recognize and dismiss. It’s a retarded form of narcissism, quite literally.

The actual danger lies in narcissists who know how to minimize their visible narcissistic tendencies. These are not people that will showcase their degeneracy like trannies do, but do everything in their power to obfuscate it and present themselves in a way that allows for genuine acceptance. A tranny (usually) kicks and screams to get their way through pity; a more sophisticated narcissist won’t accept this type of pity, as they desperately seek genuine acceptance and reverence. These are the types of narcissists that will put great effort in social status, and you will find many of them in powerful roles and positions (doctors, lawyers, politicians, influencers etc.)

The idea that a narcissist by default lacks the understanding of long term social rewards, is only true for retards like trannies. There are in fact narcissists that will sacrifice short-term pleasures for their long-term goals. These people are much more dangerous and destructive than some screaming degenerate who usually only manages to destroy their own life before doing any real lasting damage to anyone else, outside of personal relationships perhaps.

>>24854983
>Africa
Well fuck you too anon. Kek

The worst part is, disregarding OPs bait attempt, that there are people actually falling for these types of things. Very sick industry and very sick world we live in.

>>24855058
This is true. Politicians come to mind, and a couple religious (im not anti anything) authorities.

>>24855007
Start here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory
Then consult its biography.

>>24855084
>biography
bibliography*
>>24854814 (OP)
Just read something sociological.
Any school of thought you like?
Maybe start with the Chicago school.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_(sociology)
Or Emile Durkheim ("Suicide" is the name of the book), if you want to have a storiographic approach to your study.

>>24855058
you are wrong in two ways: firstly, trannies absolutely can be subtle enough in their narcissism to gain positions of power, and they have done so, and they are doing severe long-term damage to the institutions they have infiltrated as opposed to just blowing up their personal lives. secondly, you are wrong that
>The idea that a narcissist by default lacks the understanding of long term social rewards, is only true for retards like trannies.
neither retarded lolcow narcissism not subtle institutional infiltration narcissism is really "long-term" in scope. true long-term thinking is looking beyond your own lifespan, at the fate of your offspring, bloodline, civilization etc, and narcissists are incapable of it definitionally. if you can legitimately, truly place your child's well-being above your own you are not a narcissist. for a narcissist the child just like any other person is an accessory by which they achieve some benefit, if only psychological in nature. what they do to their own children can once again range from the obvious to the deviously subtle, but it will always be, in total, to the child's long-term detriment. therefore even if the individual narcissist is clever enough to avoid consequences within his lifetime, the civilization of narcissists still crumbles and goes extinct.

>>24854814 (OP)
My diary desu

Look at accounts of historical atrocity to see that regular army or police or citizens that are forced to kill others up close in large numbers frequently started vomiting and fainting, and then drank heavily to cope. Only desensitized war gazers and those born without can handle such a thing and are also incapable of love.

Carry yourself with the size of an ant

>>24854814 (OP)
why not just shoot for sophistic(ated) solipsism?

>>24855050
>prosociality is a long-term investment in the survival and wellbeing of your bloodline
this is a load of shit
psychopaths win at life while "prosocial" people are cattle
"prosocial" people are fucking miserable every fucking time

>>24855364
>having friends, families and contributing to your community is miserable.
Sure.

>>24855364
>psychopaths win at life
they very much don't. psychopaths have worse life outcomes that normal people on average. they're just thrill-seeking retards with no inner limits on behavior so sooner or later they do something retarded and end up in prison. it's not like in your animes. there's nothing there to envy.

>>24855271
>gain positions of power, and they have done so,
Useful pawns

>>24855386
no, the exact opposite.

>>24854814 (OP)
Translating for basket weaving speak, what you really want is a book on influence, and psychopathy is the hyperbole to bump the threat.

If that’s the case put down the books and hit the gym.

Normans are in general sensory creatures. Most of their opinion about you is going to come from how you look, smell, sound. No amount of psychological hacking is going to do you as many favors as being mildly- even just a tiny bit muscular at normal BMI, with a clean well fitting shirt, and a dab of cologne. If you aren’t well put together (ex. Not the average 5’4” smelly 95lb long haired chinlet from lit meetup photos) your ideas will simply be refused at the door to their mind.

>t. Salesfag

>>24855396
Trannies have always been and were a means to an end. Times are moving

>>24855413
they aren't means to anything, they're symptoms of systemic dissolution. but you have a top-down conspiratorial view of the world so we are not going to agree on anything.

just do blow and it'll get you there. it can very easily fuck up your life tho.
or just work out and be yourself haha :)

You don't read to develop Dark Triad traits dumbass, you just go out there, get high as shit and fail your way to success.
Reading for this shit is gonna multiply your retardiness to critical mass, kek

>>24855007
For example, compare India to a nation with peoples who operate on a higher level of civilization. Thems the benefits they speak of.

>>24855381
>having friends, families and contributing to your community
sorry I don't live in the fucking Disney Channel universe

>>24855544
to the bitter tranny loser the concept of regular human socialization is like something out of a cartoon, like talking animals and flying carpets

>>24855443
>they're symptoms of systemic dissolution
Thats a fair take.

>>24855544
>Disney Channel universe
This is a pretty normal thing.

>>24855271
>trannies absolutely can be subtle enough in their narcissism to gain positions of power, and they have done so, and they are doing severe long-term damage to the institutions they have infiltrated as opposed to just blowing up their personal lives.
The biggest damage that has been done to those institutions was not caused by actual trannies (though some powerful ones do exist), but by people pushing the tranny agenda. Most trannies just get used as token black guys. Tranny teachers probably have the most destructive power but at least it's fairly limited and I doubt it will last.

>if you can legitimately, truly place your child's well-being above your own you are not a narcissist. for a narcissist the child just like any other person is an accessory by which they achieve some benefit, if only psychological in nature.
There's plenty of neurotic/covert narcissists that probably would think that way. Some narcissists might even long to become sick so the child must take care of them. Now you can say that this is still to the detriment of the child, but in reality things are not always so clear and cut and dry. Remember that narcissism, like any diagnosis, is a blank label which offers very little insight into the individual.

>it will always be, in total, to the child's long-term detriment.
You're being hyperbolic here.

>therefore even if the individual narcissist is clever enough to avoid consequences within his lifetime, the civilization of narcissists still crumbles and goes extinct.
Sure but you're getting off topic here. Remember though, chances are quite high that you possess more narcissistic traits than you might like to admit. Most people do. Again, the full blown, easy to identify narcissists are usually just retards.

>>24854983
...Poland?

>>24854814 (OP)
Just get into street fights faggot

>>24855527
"prosocial behavior" is more than just imprisoning the Other. you need values, and those don't come from genetics.

>>24855443
>they're symptoms of systemic dissolution
What do you mean? How is that different from saying condemning racism is bad for an healthy society?

Btw I'm against the tranny agenda but for purely religious reasons, I can't see how it's bad from an atheist pov desu

>>24855050
Spinoza I thought you were dead

>>24854814 (OP)
What you really want is hiqh iq. Sorry, maybe next reincarnation. Consider a life of service to others to increase the odds.

>>24857752
>I can't see how it's bad from an atheist pov desu
It's not that difficult considering people have an innate understanding of dynamics that bring long-term stability to the whole ('good') and a biological drive to maintain them. I'd say it's a negative reaction to disingenuity rather than deformity.

>>24857802
>disingenuity
But trannies think it's natural and that they are in their right to be like this no?

>biological drive to maintain them
So it's the same problem with homosexuality

>>24854983
Dark triad personality disorders account for an insanely high percentage of inmates iirc. Something like 2/3 of all convicted felons are diagnosed with either BPD or APD. The point I am making is that not only would it weigh heavily on your consciousness, but trying to adopt and act on dark triad personality traits will at some point make you cross lines, whether it's legal, social or cultural. If you consciously try to adopt sociopathic tendencies, you will take sociopathic actions and society at large will punish you for them. These are considered disorders for a reason; people who suffer from them are simply incompatible with normative human society unless they can be effectively deprogrammed through medication or monitored via prison or therapy.

>>24857894
They just want to be cool like their fav anime characters

Reverend Insanity

>>24854918
>You’re full blown retarded which can definitely be viewed as a dark triad trait.
Trvke. It takes no skill or intelligence to tell a lie. A dog can learn to cry and guilt trip for more food. Manipulation is for people who can't get strong or get smart. Dark triad should be renamed to crooked nose liar triad so young adults stop thinking it's edgy and cool.

>>24857858
>But trannies think it's natural
They pretend to think it's natural, hence the weird behaviors.

>So it's the same problem with homosexuality
There's a natural distaste for homosexuality, but it is the narcissistic hypersexual fags that cause the strongest reaction. Neither trannies nor gays were a big deal until they got loud and obnoxious.

>>24857897
When I was in HS, there was a similar weeb kid to OP who ended up stalking a bunch of girls and following them home every day. He ended up writing a short story about how an evil version of him was going to shoot the girls and the school but a good version saved them and martyred himself. Some teacher read his story and he was whisked away for a psych eval and it utterly nuked whatever social life he had even into his 20s

>>24857907
I don't get it, being a Jew is edgy and cool. Nice Palestine you go there would be a shame if someone would to return to their homeland and level the opposition with bombs.

What do I read if I have dark triad traits thoughever?

>>24857914
Your reply is unintelligible. You are ESL. I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

>>24857920
>I am stupid ergo you are wrong
Okay. Thanks for blogging about it I guess.
>renamed to crooked nose liar triad
>I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
Sorry to hear about the double digit iq.

>>24857923
>I don't get it, being a Jew is edgy and cool. Nice Palestine you go there would be a shame if someone would to return to their homeland and level the opposition with bombs.
You cannot tell me that these are grammatically correct sentences. You thinking anyone can be gaslit into believing you're a native English speaker is proof that crooked nose liar trait havers are unintelligent.

>>24857949
We went from unintelligible to grammatically correct sentences. That's really fucking funny. Does my liberal use of, commas, bother, you? Good. Be mad.

>>24857909
>narcissistic hypersexual
What do you think caused their apparition in today society

>>24857972
A controlled opposition strategy by republicans trying to take over the country by force because the white man is no longer a majority in the land of the lard.

>>24857959
I was never the mad one. You were. I assume you got triggered by my association of lying with crooked noses and assumed I was making some comment on middle eastern conflicts. If you were a Westerner you would understand the centuries long association between noses and lying that exists in our folklore.

>>24857979
Hm, to be honest I never really bought the whole "white genocide" conspiracy, I can't really see why a group of people would like to spread degeneracy in our society. and the "white man = the best" rethoric seems rather weak too.

I see the whole tranny and co degenerancy as a collective cognitive dissonance

>>24858008
>I was never mad I just started crying when I didn't understand something
Okay. Also, loving the irony of implying cultural tourism while being completely unaware of the implications of crooked noses on basket weaving forums. Good job.

>>24858029
Why do you go on the antisemitic basket weaving forum if you're going to get triggered at every assumed slight at jews?

>>24858016
There are very strong roads that lead to porn and being terminally online as a thread that unraveled society at least on some level, but the reality is trans people are less than 1 percent of the population and gooners are social rejects basement dwellers so to see the group collectively get this much air time in political discourse is jarring to say the least.

>>24858034
I just made a joke anon and I like to argue.

>>24857972
>>24858016
>and the "white man = the best" rethoric seems rather weak too
He's talking about the demographics that vote for Republicans. Democrats, and leftists in general, have a co-dependent relationship with foreigners, wherein leftists guarantee their rights, and foreigners are incentivized to vote leftists into power, so Republicans manufacture an issue to bolster voter base.

>What do you think caused their apparition in today society
I think there's just a general trend for ego inflation, especially due to marketing, the internet, and general world-alienation. People get less mature, and the politics follow, makes it easier for some movements to gain traction and changes the dynamics of these movements. There may be some greater conspiracy at play, as the issue is so loud and divisive, but soft-left has been pushing these issues for decades, and they have acquired better means to push them over time, and the younger public is far more receptive to bullshit nowadays. It may be simple inertia from whatever was going on back in the 60s.

I'm an egoist.

>>24858217
>gay for a dude
You need Jesus.

>>24858221
>>gay for a dude
>You need Jesus.
ironic

>>24858222
I thought so. Checked.

>>24857918
If you really had dark triad you'd be drowning in pussy

>>24854814 (OP)
It doesn't come through books. You need to pvp IRL to become sociopathic

>>24855988
This right here

>>24857897
>>24857894

Lotta reddit up in here

>>24858445
>lotta
nigger language

>>24858456
Lots of Reddit up in dis mufuguh sheeeit

>>24858477
Kek