0079 Trilogy > Zeta ANT > CCA > Hathaway
This is how a lot of people watch UC these days. I don't understand why the first of an incomplete movie series with no continuation as of yet is the end point to rush through everything else.

>>23283819 (OP)
I'm not fucking doing what you tell me to, that's asinine

>>23283878
You are retarded.

the funniest shit I see is people telling retards to do 0079 trilogy then Zeta TV. It's like so you're going to skip a pretty good tv show just so you're walled by yet another good tv show? make it make sense.

>>23283819 (OP)
Literally nothing wrong with watching 0079 trilogy as someone new to the franchise with no emotional investment in it. I bounced off Gundam for like three years because of jank animation and slow pacing in the first half. The movies were my way back in.
But yeah, you really should watch Zeta+ZZ properly once you "get" Gundam and will put up with some slow episodes here and there

>>23283889
see

>>23283884
what's the fucking point when the only other option is zeta movies?

>>23283895
i mean if you're gonna skip zz which seems to be the norm you might as well got for the movies, it ties up everything nicely to move straight into cca

>>23283819 (OP)
0079 TV -> 0079 movies -> Zeta movies -> SRW 30

Fa's new voice is the biggest downgrade I've ever heard from a voice replacement. I will never endorse the Zeta movies just based on that alone.

>>23283895
WHATS THE FCKING POINT OF SKIPPING 0079????

Zeta is shit and skippable

>>23283921
I didn't skip it. I watched the movies. They come out to half the runtime of the show since all of them are >2hrs. And I watched the show later, when I already cared about the story and characters, because I had seen three movies with reasonable pacing and (in the case of movie 3) much better animation and sound.
As I already said, for my first time watching the TV version, I made it to the episode where Ryu died and just stopped because I didn't give a fuck and felt like it was going nowhere. Most of the show's filler is in the first half after all. The movies really didn't lose much as a result of us not seeing the White Base run low on salt for a while.

>>23283942
its because of faggots like you anime barely ever goes longer than 12 episodes now

>wow I’d really like to get into Gundam, the world seems so interesting!
>now how can I watch as little of it as possible while still passing myself off as a fan?
Utter faggotry and retardation.

ZZ surprisingly gets referenced a lot in shit like Unicorn, Moon and even the later Crossbone entries but I guess it's irrelevant if you don't touch that stuff

>>23283921
Gundam only got popular in Japan when the movies came out. I'm a true nihonophile so I want to get the same viewing experience as the traditional Japanese Gundam fan.

>>23285760
There's been a bit of a rehabilitation of ZZ by Bandai in the past decade to 15 years with stuff like Moon Gundam and Unicorn to try and fix the holes, and consistency.

It's probably part of their UC Next 100 push where they're trying to not focus entirely on just One Year War content like they've been doing for the past 30 years

>>23286050
The movies only got made because 0079’s reruns were where it picked up popularity. And you aren’t a Japanese person in the early 1980s.

>>23285760
Yeah, but I don't care about Fukui retarded writing so I can ignore Unicorn and Moon Gundam.
Also
>Crossbone
lol, lmao even

>>23283884
The 0079 movies are pretty good though.
And I will NOT watch the salt hunt arc again. You cannot make me.

>>23286122
I want to watch it the way the earliest fans did. A gaijin (oldtype) like yourself would never understand.

>>23286127
Okay so watch the TV series. Easy.

>>23286141
The movies were more popular anon.

>>23286162
No they weren’t.

https://www.nhk.or.jp/anime/gundam/ranking/

>>23286166
This is an NHK poll. I'm talking about how most people watched it back in the '80s.

>>23286168
obviously that's because not everyone in 1981 had a VCR and could record the show personally or easily buy all of 0079 on VHS to watch later, so going to see the movies in theatres was a way more likely option

>>23286168
And what’s your evidence?

>>23286191
The fact that the TV series was a canceled flop and the movies were a mega hit.

>>23286218
Wrong.

>>23286241
Oh you're telling me the viewership peaked in 1981, the year the first two movies came out? Interesting. Makes me wonder if the movie had anything to do with that popularity. It's almost like this wasn't popular until the movies became a hit by marketing it as a Space Battleship Yamato successor.

>>23286252
First five words of the second paragraph.
>hurr but look, it got more popular after they made compilation films!
You lost. You’re just a secondary. Get over it.

>>23286270
Anime Grand Prix is a fan poll from a fan magazine that had only launched a few months prior. That's not representative of how popular it was in a general sense, it just means that the adult anime fans invested enough in the medium to subscribe to a new anime magazine and mail in their response to a poll liked it. That's like a handful of guys.

Really it wasn't until the movies that it became a mainstream phenomenon. The movies were successful because of a really strong marketing campaign that built Gundam up as a successor to Space Battleship Yamato, and because of a stunt to get media attention by deliberately overbooking the movie's premiere so that there'd be a crowd too big for the venue.

>>23283884
>>23283921
I guess 0079 has rougher animation, hairs and grime stuck on the cells way too often, etc? Zeta is a lot more tolerable for the uninitiated from a visual standpoint. 0079 movies are also less controversial than ANT. You should obviously go TV first for all of them though, it's gonna be a lot harder to go back to TV after movies than to just sit through 0079 as your first introduction. And if you couldn't handle TV 0079 you sure as hell aren't gonna handle ZZ or Victory.

>>23286303
Animage was first published in 1978. Gundam won twice in two polls in 1979 and 1980.
Why even post this total bullshit that’s very easily debunked?

>>23286328
how many votes?

>>23286330
Can’t give you a number without looking deep into it and I’m working rn. Animage was already the biggest anime mag at the time regardless.

>>23286328
Animage launched May 26th 1978 and Gundam won its polls in 1979 and 1980, yeah, but that still doesn't indicate anything about the show's broader popularity. It just shows that it was well liked by the handful of early subscribers to Animage who were passionate enough to mail in a ballot for their poll.

The show itself still flopped commercially. Sunrise noticed that it did have a handful of passionate fans and that the toy line was selling to people who hadn't even watched the show, so they decided to do the movie recuts. Since they already had the footage it was kind of a low investment project with a lot of potential upside, and they marketed it really well and it paid off.

>>23286365
>it flopped so hard that people bought the toys without even seeing it
Weird

>>23286365
My understanding was that the toys sold like shit and merchandise sales didn't really take off until Bandai stepped in and the model kits supplanted and then replaced the awful toys

https://www.gundamunofficial.com/production/firstgundam.html#section3

>>23286382
Well to be specific the Clover toys didn't sell very well, but the Bandai model kit line launched in 1980 sold well enough that Sunrise saw an opportunity. The kits sold pretty well because they seemed more "adult" oriented than the handful of kits that preceded them. They had an actual scaling system and a focus on mechanical detail, i.e. they had an angular militaristic theme that made them stand out from the Robert Kinoshita/Astro Boy type robot aesthetic. Adult men just thought the robots looked cool and bought the kits for hobby purposes. There's still a lot of people who buy gunpla of shit they've never seen.

Space Battleship Yamato had been pretty successful in the late '70s with a movie re-cut of that series so Sunrise decided it'd be worth trying to capitalize on that by marketing Gundam to the same young adults who had nostalgia for watching Yamato on TV a few years prior.

>>23286360
It's okay, I did the research for you, the polls had just under 9000 votes total and Gundam had ~1700 votes in the 1980 results.

>>23286423
Excellent.

>>23283819 (OP)
I understand recommending skipping 0079 TV and watching the 0079 movies instead as those at least cover all the major plot points in the series and are generally better paced to boot.

However what psychopath is recommending watching Zeta ANT before the TV series?

>>23286124
Like 50% of Unicorn is about a Ple clone losing her Master (Glemy).

>>23286494
>However what psychopath is recommending watching Zeta ANT before the TV series?

Me. I do it as a way to gatekeep. If people think Gundam is bad, they'll move on and won't bother me with their newfag opinions.

>>23286365
>>23286383
You are out base, the reason for the cancellation wasn't the ratings but the toy sales. Because one of the three sponsors was Cover, a toy company. And the toys didn't sell because Cover was marketing them as toys for childs, so a lot of the fans of the show didn't buy them. It happen the same with the soundtrack of the show, it has a "goofy" cover and barely sold copies until Yasuhiko recovered, draw a new cover on his Arion manga style and suddenly the album soundtrack sold gazillions.
It a similar fashion the Cover ended up selling a lot of toys in the Christmas season but at that point the show was already cancelled with 4-5 episodes left to air.

>>23286519
Does that work?
From my experience people new to Gundam like ANT while long term fans dislike it.

>>23286697
I started watching Gundam on 2003 and only a few years ago watched the Z movies. I think the compilation is alright.

>>23286697
>long term fans dislike it
Why? The only thing that's really changed is like the last minuite of the ending, to be fair the new ending is fanfic nonsense and I'd prefer that the release allowed you to choose the original ending over new translation but I don't remember anything else being egregious when I watched it, the new fight animation was quite good.

>>23286740
Most people complain about the pacing and that the Dakar arc was cut out, even though it's most representative of the AEUG's intentions in all of Zeta's story. The first movie is maybe only 25% new footage, while the last movie feels more like 50% new footage. Why not just commit to new animation for all of the battles and the glamor shots? Instead you'll have a talking scene in new animation that didn't really need it, and the battle scenes will switch between new and old footage like it's an guy playing with a fidget toy. The changes are jarring, and the fake grain filter didn't help, younger fans won't care about it so it's pointless to them, and older fans or cinephiles will complain it's fake and doesn't look good.

>>23286762
>Why not just commit to new animation for all of the battles and the glamor shots?
Because Tomino doesn't have enough animators to do it and Sunrise was already stretched thin to commit and give him more. Originally, the project was only to be one movie as a way to hook up people for the main series. But Sunrise got ambitious with the good ticket sales and critics.

>>23286762
That's fair, didn't feel as jarring to me as SEED HD, but maybe because I was expecting it. Honestly I don't think animators these days could even copy the original artsytle.

>>23286772
Nah, don't think so. It was already known to be a trilogy according to news articles from before the first movie premiered, plus the 2nd movie came out only 4 months after the 1st movie, so there's no way they didn't already plan it ahead of time, even if it is quicker to make a compilation movie with old footage.

>>23283819 (OP)
The proper method is to watch

0079 on toonami when you were a kid > play Dynasty Warriors Gundam > CCA > Gundam Thunderbolt miniseries

>>23283819 (OP)
>watching hathaway before victory gundam
since when are children allowed in this site

>>23286819
Hathaway's Flash was written years before Victory, and Victory directly references Hathaway's Flash

>>23286832
sure, but you and i know the average retard here can't moon moonrune and the tv shows got subbed way before zeonic got into translating it

>>23286819
They're not watching Victory dummy, that's part of the point.

>>23286848
>the average retard
? Dude only like 1.7% of the world's population can read Jap.

>>23286848
Fair

>>23286857
And that is a lot of people!

>>23286740
It cuts out the emotional impact of the scenes with Four and butchers the ending.

0079 movies are watchable but cut out some of my favorite parts like McCuve's death.

>>23286863
But they also cut out the Salt Hunt, which make them infinity better than the show.

>>23283942
>>23286126
>>23286955
jfc it was just one episode and it was actually really good, Sayla even steals Gundam in that.
genuinely fuck off.

>>23283819 (OP)
I just recently got into Gundam and watched the tv series first. What do the movies offer over the shows?

Why Tomino dismissed the original TV series? Is it because it's too toyetic?

>>23287349
>>23287349
I swear this has to be a meme from people that have never watched 0079. It’s honestly a really good character episode and the salt thing isn’t even the main point. It’s not like they drag it out either it’s only 20 minutes, sure the premise is a bit odd but that’s about it.

>>23283819 (OP)
0079 movies are honestly better than the show. I've seen both multiple times.

>>23283819 (OP)
What release should I download if I want to watch 0079 but not the movies?

>>23288060
Just download the raws of the most recent BD rip, all of them have official English subs.

>>23287405
The 0079 trilogy cuts out some more toyetic elements of the show and gives some good updated animation, but you do lose a bit of an emotional punch due to the condensed nature of the movies.

The Zeta trilogy does not work nearly as well because...well, Zeta is a bit more complicated to condense.

Zeta trilogy is bad because the original show is shit and had no plot!

>>23286819
>>23286832
I haven't watched the shows in moonrunes, how does Victory reference Hathaway‘s Flash? To my knowledge they also only mention Zeon by name once. It makes me want to rewatch the show.

>>23287615
People meme on Cucuruz Doan's Island or the timebomb episode, but they actually stood out to me because they showed Gundam and Amuro were not invincible. If anything they are the more memorable episodes.

>>23288474
The time-bomb episode is great because of the interaction with the zeon soldiers at the end. It’s these slower episodes that give room for character development and world building that really make 0079 what it is. iirc the movies also cut the episode where the Zeon scouts help out that woman and her child that left white base, only to be nearly killed by Amuro, that’s another excellent one.

>>23288522
>only to be nearly killed by Amuro
>nearly
Didn't those guys die? Maybe not by Amuro's hand, but someone else's? That's how I remember it anyway.

It's kind of weird that the films are considered definitive viewing when the currently airing GQuuuuuuX makes heavy use of characters that aren't even in the compilation movies.

>>23288425
It's not really that major. Uso and Shahkti are illegally living on Earth which won't necessarily make sense unless you know at least the premise of Hathaway's Flash, and the V2 uses a similar sort of flight system to Minovsky Craft.

>>23288720
I mean, they should be required, just alongside the originals as well.

>>23283819 (OP)
IDK where else to ask, so here it is:
I'm going to give this robot stuff a try. For the original series, did they do a good enough job translating it into American, or do I got to sit through subtitles?

>>23285760
Even without accounting for Midcorn, ZZ explains where Haman went between Zeta and CCA, so it’s still tangentially vital to wrapping up arcs.

>>23288805
The show dub for the original series and for Zeta are all right, but definitely change up the sound design, if that matters to you. The movie dub for 0079 is infamously shit, and ANT has no dub, only subs.

>>23288805
If you're a dub watcher I don't think mecha is the right genre for you.

>>23286423
BTFO

>>23283819 (OP)
Zoomers don't like to enjoy things, thats why they they are all about getting done with something as soon as possible.

>>23288830
>Gundam wasn't popular before the movies
>actually it was the most popular anime for two years straight, it was literally just toy sales that underperformed
>BTFO
LOL

>>23288838
It wasn't popular, that's why it got canceled. There's a lot more than 1700 people in Japan.

>>23288824
I'm not an anime watcher in general. I don't get this sub vs dub stuff you guys make religion out of. If it ain't terrible, I'm just going to watch it in the language I speak. Three of my favorite films are in foreign language, so I'm fine with subtitles, I just don't always like the voices the Japanese do in their cartoons.

>>23288817
Thanks. Like enough to make it bad, or just not as good? The movies are just recap edits of the show right, or do they add material?

>>23288843
Ah that must also be why it got absurdly high ratings when it was reran and why the movies got greenlit in the first place
Thank you Gundam loremaster

>>23288852
Unpopular shows get compilation films too. See Turn A and G-Reco.

>>23288853
That.... is a fair point

>>23288845
Hilariously bad direction choices (a certain character being dubbed with a shitty British accent), bad pronunciations (e.g. Gundam as “Gun-damn”). You’re 100% better off watching the movies subbed.
Show-wise, the dub is serviceable, if dubs are your priority.
Why all this? The movie dubs were recorded in the late 90s, prior to the Gundam Wing dub, so little cooperation was around. When Wing kicked off here during the early Toonami era, Bandai took advantage of it and commissioned a full show dub of 0079 (with a different dubbing studio), Zeta (with another different dubbing studio), and CCA (0079’s dubbing studio).

>>23288853
Turn A was a 20th anniversary project.
G-Reco had good ratings for the time slot it aired in

>>23288942
They really did it absolutely no favors by airing it at midnight.

>>23288852
The movies got greenlit because the Bandai model kits sold well.

>>23288987
Where are the rest of the ratings?

>>23283819 (OP)
Zoom zooms are retarded, they watch anime to stamp "COMPLETE" on their gay ass MAL account

>>23288522
My preference for the movies basically exists because of movie 3 and how it drastically improves on the original in several key scenes
So what I really think is that you should watch like 30 episodes and then switch over to Encounters in Space
I mean seriously compare the following
TV https://youtu.be/tlJ5j-hSUmQ?si=FvwT0Y2ft6mUIC0C
Movie https://youtu.be/bMEHySVsVKA?si=HRHWuZC3uy7sgEVN
It's not just the visual clarity. There is more going on in terms of movement and facial expressions. The script is much more like a real family spat. The composition is much more varied. The sound design is better. And scenes like this are everywhere in the movie.
I will probably never watch the TV version of the last 10 episodes again, because I know Encounters in Space is right there and way better

>>23289877

>>23285760
ZZ is funny because so few people watch it because it's silly, but it gets referenced a lot. I think what's unique about this phenomenon is that you really only need to know 1 or 2 major plot details from ZZ and you are sorta fine to skip it. It's not really a buildup for CCA beyond why Haman is no longer there and CCA drops you into the middle of disorienting action and makes you play catchup anyways

>>23289934
I do find it funny that people say they love Zeta blah blah blah but then aren't even vaguely interested to see what happens right after. I get trying ZZ, getting put off and then dropping it but the people who don't even try it at all are weird to me.

>>23289951
Because ZZ shits all over Zeta

>>23289934
Mostly because ZZ includes Haman. She was one of the biggest plot points that wasn't resolved on Z.

I watched the four original UC properties with them being my first Gundam experience and ZZ was easily my favorite of the TV shows. I will never understand how it gets so much shit.

>>23289973
>I will never understand how it gets so much shit.
Tonal inconsistency both with Zeta and within itself. Annoying new supporting characters while characters from Zeta are treated as jokes. Inconsistency with minor characters being given an emotional sendoff when they die, and major characters not even being referred to when they die.
It's a weird show where the advice isn't "wait until episode 3 for it to pick up", but instead "wait until episode 20".

>>23289951
>I can't wait to finish Zeta to watch ONII SAN ICE CREAM DAISUKI!!!!

>>23289993
I liked it from episode 1 and the Earth desert arc, and later the ending cemented it as my favorite. Aside from Yazan I really didn't feel like any character was "treated as a joke".

>>23288845
nippon voice acting is just better dubs are always bad in comparison(not in just anime). Its one of these you try it once you never wanna go back type of deals.

>>23290014
It's okay to like it, I'm just trying to be objective. It was a bit of a troubled production.
I've seen outcry about how Bright and Fa were treated too. For all intents and purposes, Fa is an ace by ZZ, but it does treat her like she's helpless at points.

Hot take but CCA sucks. If there's any single piece of the UC timeline that is too highly valued it's that movie.

>>23290015
>nippon voice acting is just better dubs are always bad in comparison
You have never watched a foreign movie dubbed on japanese.

>>23290019
>Fa is an ace by ZZ
Name one of her feats

>>23290028
Having more experience in the field than literally every single remaining AEUG pilot or Neo Zeon pilot.

>>23290028
She saves Judau in episode 10 by sortieing in a wrecked Methuss and fixing the Zeta's beam rifle
Doesn't really negate her treatment in the first 9 episodes but it was a nice sendoff moment for her at least

>>23283819 (OP)
> Zeta ANT
You retarded?

>>23290028
>Having more experience in the field than literally every single remaining AEUG pilot or Neo Zeon pilot
>Still bumblefucks about.

>>23290067
Are you? Did you read the rest of the post?

>>23290063
>her treatment in the first 9 episodes
You are retarded.

>>23290074
No, now I look like a retard. Thanks.

>>23290014
You are replying to some guy that posts the same shit every time ZZ is mentioned.

>>23290075
>no you don't understand, Fa floundering and being called a retarded old hag is actually respectful of her!
lol

>>23290078
So do you enjoy just making up lies, anon?

>>23290078
Case in point >>23290083

>>23290078
He's right though.
There's this huge tonal whiplash of the first 20 or so episodes coming off Zeta. My watch experience was pretty much everything in order in regards to the setting timeline, so initially ZZ felt incredibly tone deaf.
As a whole though ZZ is in an odd spot for me, while those first 20 or so episodes are not something I'm particularly fond of, but I did quite enjoy it after it got in line, notably around the time Silent Voice becomes the opening theme. So while ZZ was a positive experience for me by the end, I can fully understand people not tolerating 20~ episodes of a show before it gets back to what they want or expected. That's a massive flaw for something to have.

>>23290093
>He's right though.
Don't pretend to be someone else.

>>23290089
That's not even me, and this >>23289993 is probably one of 3 times ever I've posted about ZZ. I don't even dislike the show.

>>23290078
>>23290089
>>23290099
Holy shit why are Tominofags always like this? With Turn A and G-Reco too, if you didn’t like them, you’re part of a conspiracy

>>23283819 (OP)
People aren't really watching Zeta ANT are they? Some nice redraws aside it's total ass and most people are pretty vocal about that.

>>23290104
>part of a conspiracy
No you just love posting the same shit every single time without failure.

>>23290128
Or maybe the show just fucking sucks for obvious reasons that people easily hone in on, retard

>>23290133
>the show just fucking sucks
It doesn't.
>people
It's just you, spamming the same shit every thread.

>>23290137
It sucks so unbelievably hard that it’s no wonder you’re so mindbroken if you’re a ZZ fan

>>23290137
NTA but can you pull this up in the archive?

Why do people sperg out every time ZZ, Turn A and G-Reco come up

>>23289922
Tv is better for me purely on the basis of its structure. EiS is easily the best of the trilogy but still, it is a compilation film at the end of the day. New visuals are nice but not enough to improve the experience. Series has better insert songs. Rewatches are different thing, but I can never recommend films for the first watch.

>>23290160
They want to feel validated in being part of the Tomino cult, and don’t like reality checks

>>23290024
>too highly valued
0080, Crossbone and Origin exist.

>>23290174
You are a sad, pathetic little man.

>>23290178
It's true no matter how much you deny it.

Not the fucking 'Fa was a good pilot' bullshit again.

>>23290015
>nippon voice acting is just better
That's not what he's asking. He doesn't care if the sub or dub is better, he wants to know if the dub is so bad that it detracts from the show. Idk if you're ESL or just have poor level of reading comprehension, but nothing in your comment addresses a single thing he said.

>>23290202
Keep up the quixotic crusade, you’re just making Tomino cultists look fucking crazy lmao

>>23290202
>>23290226
For what it's worth, I find this entire thing really bizarre. I didn't even say anything controversial to warrant this.

>>23290226
Watch Zeta again
She pretty much got Apolly killed. Bright begs her not to pilot. Emma, Kamille and Fa herself think she is not fit for the job.
Her whole arc is about being a domestic woman taking care of Shinta and Qum, she stands in contrast with other female characters who are dealing with military.

>>23290211
a lot of the gundam dubs aren't bad, but the lack of consistency in the voice actors kneecaps them
I can't think of a UC era dub that was really jarringly bad, the First movies dub is a weird Streamline style "these are words that don't explicitly disagree with the original" style script but that's about it off the top of my head

>>23290242
Okay so why couldn’t you say that instead of replying to four or five people about them being some samefag spammer

>>23290253
...
I am not the guy, literally my first post on the topic regarding ZZ in this thread.

>>23290253
>>23290267
Pot calling the kettle black.

>>23290267
>>23290270
Sure thing pal

>>23290242
And in ZZ, the new Gundam pilot can barely even move the thing and runs out into battle with a broken beam rifle, until Fa bails his ass out, and all the Neo Zeon pilots are just fucking retarded
She might be a 1/10 when it comes to piloting, but in ZZ, everybody else starts out in the negatives.

>>23290283
Eh I'd say Episode 1 Judau is at least on par with episode 1 Amuro. People forget he had the manual sitting on his lap telling him how the thing worked, Judau didn't even have that much and still got the job done.

>>23289951
To be fair, ZZ comes highly unrecommended by most fans. That's why I've missed it. And again, all you really need to know is that Haman goes away after Zeta. It's honestly not even that much of a stretch to think that between Zeta and CCA, when Char came back he just did a power play and got rid of Haman when he finally decided to lead Neo Zeon

>>23290488
If you haven’t watched it literally nothing you have to say is valid. Fandoms are by nature some of the most retarded groups on earth, forms your own opinions instead of taking some fake group consensus as fact.

>>23290639
>fake group consensus
What would convince you that the consensus was real?

>>23290488
>dude just watch Zeta so you can get to CCA and complain about it like the rest of us

>>23290649
People actually watching it.

>>23290649
Most of the people saying not to watch it have not watched it, does that sound like an informed opinion to you?

I liked ZZ the humor in the early episodes reminded me of L-Gaim

>>23290174
None of those are of any value to continuity the same way CCA is. Not one.

>>23290128
J does this to waste your time, only 0079 is valid to their trolling troupe

>>23290651
>>23290655
You’ll just dismiss them as not watching it anyways, also that’s not what a consensus is.

>>23283819 (OP)
For me, it's been:

Requiem for Vengeance (got me interested in the UC Gundam setting in general) > 0079 MSG full series > Zeta Gundam full series > 0080 War in the Pocket (cheated because I couldn't find the English dub of ZZ until I decided to settle for subs) > ZZ Gundam > Char's Counterattack > 0083 Stardust Memory

I decided to rewatch MSG on a whim and I'm glad I did, because I didn't "get everything" my first go. I only started last November, it's been a hell of a ride. This franchise gives me everything I wanted from Star Wars.

My favorite mobile suits:

RX-78(G)E Gundam EX
Zaku II
Gundam Mk II
Rick Dom
THE BIG ZAM
NZ-000 Quin Mantha
MSN-04 Sazabi

>>23292303
>You’ll just dismiss them as not watching it anyways
Why would I do that?

>>23292424
Because you are extremely mentally ill

Looking around on some Japanese sites for their recommended watching orders for Universal Century, and OP isn't far off.
>Gundam Movie Trilogy > Zeta Gundam Movie Trilogy > CCA > Optional: Cover other OVAs and MSV material > UC (OVA)
They also note
>Rest assured that most people haven't actually seen the main series of ZZ, and only know about it through Super Robot Wars or G Generation.

>>23292451
I genuinely don't know what you're basing that off. Because I want people to watch a show before telling other people it isn't worth it? I'm seriously confused.

>>23292490
I hate it.

>>23292490
I don't get it, what is even the point of watching UC Gundam if you are just going to rush through the whole thing and not even watch the shows? Gundam, Zeta, and ZZ episodes are on avg 20 minutes long. Is it really to much of a time commitment to set aside 20 minutes a day to watch the shows? Yes it will take a few months to get through all 3 but you'll at least get the full experience.

>>23293891
From the same site
>To eliminate misfortunes like the goal tweet, the goal is to clear the following and be able to participate in Gundam conversations
>1. Understand basic terms and the worldview common to the Gundam world, such as mobile suits and space colonies.
>2. Understand the layout, relationships, and scope of each work (Universal Century connections, etc.).
>3. Understand conversations and scenes that are often used as jokes, such as "I've never even been hit by my dad!" and "I am Gundam."
The other options the page gives for watching Gundam are starting with SEED and SEED Destiny, starting with Unicorn, starting with IBO, and starting with Wing.

>>23294006
Why would you want to participate in conversations about something you don't care about in the first place? It is a thing people do, I know, but I genuinely do no understand.

>>23294019
believe it or not, some people are posers

>>23294019
It's especially a Japanese thing I think. They are very concerned about appearances over there.

>>23292414
Now you just need to watch Origin, the compilation movies, new translation, unicorn ova, Twilight axis, Hathaway, Narritive, F91, MS Victory, Reco in G, G40, Thunderbolt, 08th MS Team, Igloo, Cucuruz Island movie and Requiem.

>>23290028

>>23292414
Literally just watch 08th MS Team right now, I don't know why you still haven't

>>23290028
Doesn't she have the highest killcount of any pilot for her entire stay on the Argama in ZZ?

>>23283819 (OP)
I started watching them in the chronological order
rewatching the Origin now, after 0079, Z, ZZ, and CCA
I'd say it's worth watching twice - before and after the series
It's both good as a nostalgia fuel and as an introduction into the 0079

>>23294731
My first Gundam show was 08th MS Team. Then it took me like a decade to decide to watch more, went through the OG series and CCA in a month.
It was surprisingly good starting point.

>>23294731
I'm trying to go by production order and I'm looking forward to it.

Chronological order is the only way to go.
Watch the 0079 series and all OYW OVAs and films.
Once you finally exhaust all of those, you move onto 0083, then Zeta, then you read Sentinel on your break between Zeta and ZZ. And so on and so on.

>>23294747
It's a very comfy and straightforward watch, hence my confusion
>>23294755
What the fuck are you talking about, 08th MS Team was-
>in 1996, with Victory, G, and Wing Gundam between it and the other OVAs
>even within UC it's still after Victory in terms of production order
My mistake, sorry anon. Usually the OVAs were recommended in one batch (08th, then Pocket, then 0083) so I keep forgetting this information. I don't think it would hurt to watch it sooner, and it's not like 0083 and so many other cases where going by production order really helps you in light of knowing what comes after (0083 should really be watched AFTER Zeta, because you'll know what those Federation and Titan fucks are actually doing). I THINK 08th is one of those exceptions where you can watch it at any point after being familiar with 0079, but you're doing something good by sticking to production order. Almost always always, production order is king.

I can't imagine watching Unicorn without seeing ZZ first. I mean I imagine people do and understand it just fine but 10 years later Marida being a Puru clone is pretty much the only thing I remember about it.

>>23297572
Just play SRW and get the ZZ cliffnotes or read a summary

>>23288911
Blue Water Studios is just Ocean's budget group.

>>23297717
might as well just not watch any of it at that point

>>23297767
Well no, the other series are enjoyable so there’s no reason not to watch them.

>>23289951
I was given that advice when I started UC gundam. I got around to watching it and nearly wanted to quit during the first few episodes but stuck it out. Glad I did because Chara Soon is 100/10 Also Haman just amazon positioning the EFF to hand over Earth made me love her even more. It's not the best UC show but it's not as bad as people will make it seem like. Activate ZZ is one of my favorite tracks too.

>>23297817
I mean that's subjective isn't it? If you're gonna listen to other people instead of finding out for yourself just don't bother.

>>23288720
Telling someone who has never watched a Gundam entry to watch almost 50 episodes in order to consume the Khara fanfic is kinda silly when they can watch three movies instead and get 80% of the benefit.

>>23298923
Why do you think I haven’t seen ZZ?

>>23283819 (OP)
It should be like this
083 > Unicorn > Victory > Z > CCA > 079 > ZZ

>>23298966
I meant you in a general sense dummy

>>23299000
But I'm not a general, I'm a corporal

>>23283819 (OP)
>>23288805
I'm the guy who asked about the dub earlier in the thread. So I finished the original show and it was alright. Some of the reused animations got a bit annoying, but it was pretty solid. Before I roll into Z, is the movie they made out of the island episode easily findable online? I don't watch anime, so Idk where all pirate stream sites are.

>>23299245
>pirate stream sites
Nyaa

>>23299245
Cucuruz Doan’s Island is a very, very skippable movie. It overcomplicates what was a simple, nice little story.

>>23290025
cant you read i said dubs are always bad.
>>23290211
>but nothing in your comment addresses a single thing he said.
duh

>>23300101
>dubs are always bad
Kung pow

>>23299274
?

>>23286740
Don't they completely fuck up Four's story and just have her get shot in the face by that mop head guy?
Four is literally a fan favorite character.

>>23297572
It literally makes less sense e if you've seen ZZ though (and I'm saying this as a knock on Unicorn, not ZZ).
>Viewer who hasn't seen ZZ: Oh, a grown up version of a cloned child soldier from a show I've heard about.
>Viewer who has seen ZZ: Wait how the fuck does Puru aging work? How did Puru Two pop out the same age as Elpeo Puru of the clones age normally (going by Twelve)? Was Elpeo Puru a clone and not the original donor? Why does Glemy speak as if the cloning project is his brainchild if he would have to be a toddler when it started? How the fuck was clearing this up not a priority in side material?

>>23298943
Telling someone who has never watched a Gundam to even concern themselves with the Khara fanfic is silly in itself. Like 80% of that show is nostalgiabaiting for oldfags.

>>23303303
>>23298943
In the first place some of the stuff in GQuuuuuuux actually come from the out of print novelizations.

>>23290024
I don't think it sucks but yeah it's pretty overhyped. The heart of the whole story is essentially just Tomino trying Katz and Sarah again. While Char and Amuro's final conflict is not a small part of it, it ultimately feels like it's written around Tomino's second draft of something he wasn't satisfied with from Zeta.

Zeta was peak UC

>>23303361
Jerid was part of Scirocco's Newtype harem and did not realize it.

>>23290024
People just like it because it's Amuro and Char

Even /m/ is infested with this shit now:
>>23308769

>>23303361
First half was kino. But holy shit the second half sucked. Inverse of daburu zeta

>>23303361
I understand Emma but why is Katz with the Titans

>>23283819 (OP)
I saw one of those vtubers that does watch alongs that started the series with Gqux go from the first Gundam movie to CCA so that seems like a step up. They didn't even finish the trilogy.

>>23287440
because it's more super robot than real robot

I need to have sex with Haman Karn

>>23285760
Crossbone is irrelevant and does not thematically fit with the rest of the UC

>>23312147

>>23299245
Bit late but you can easily find the original episode on Youtube. The movie isn't so hard either.

I recommend hianime dot to. Solid site for watching free anime, lets you customize the subtitles too. Just use an adblocker like uBlock Origin on Firefox so you don't click on viruses or pornhub ads or whatever else popup ads do these days.

>>23283916
Why does Fa when the protagonist bowl when Fraw lost so bad, as the motherly girl next door?
ANT makes it more apparent, with Kamille kissing Fa well before the finale.

>>23315875
Because Fa is pure sex and Fraw is frumpy

>>23315661
My man!
I just finished it and I think it fits in really well with the rest of the 0079. Definitely adds some nice context to Amuro's desertion. I found this chad in the background of Zeta earlier, I'll name the file after you.

>>23315875
Fa won by process of elimination in the show.
ANT is a alternate happy ending made 20 years later.

>>23283819 (OP)
Im pretty sure people go straight to Unicorn after CCA and that's if they didnt see Unicorn first UC gundam then got invested in UC and began watching the others

Personally given how warm the reception was to my friends who I showed and helped get into gundam. Id start with 0079, then the OYW side stories to help get more invested in each sides respective struggle via different POVs. (I find it really well to have 0080 as the first OYW side story and contrast to 0079 as now both sides are humanized) That helps in making people want to not only see more UC but also see more lore and world building rather than just a single story. Then Zeta, then 0083 to bridge that gap and a nice little feast for the eyes to see how well animation has come for the series since 0079.

After this is done, I pause UC and I find this step important

Its time to show the first AU as a pallete cleanser and to show how Gundam can come in different flavors and that it doesn't need to be synonymous with UC. This helps build appreciation for the different takes on the IP. (I find G Gundam to work very well at this role)

Then we go back to UC with CCA, people are now eager to see the rivalry between amuro and char finally close. It never fails in beeing a visual Rollercoaster due to its complete disregard for pacing but it never fails to garner interest and discussion afterwords.

After this I completely leave the choice to them. Now that the Amuro and Char saga is at a close. They can watch ZZ without having Amuro/Char withdrawal, and for answering the questions they inevitably ask at the end of CCA
>where's Kamille? Where's all these guys from Zeta
Now they're interested in seeing those stories wrap up and thus go to ZZ
Or
If they ask
>what happens to the world now?
I point em to either Hathaway and Unicorn(which i give a huge viewer discretion as I personally never was a fan of it)
And save F91 to watch on a rainy day. Victory i save for their own agency as its too polarizing

>>23315941
>where's Kamille? Where's all these guys from Zeta
if they care about Kamille they'd want to watch ZZ right after Zeta but despite how apparently popular Kamille is no one gives a shit. he's just braindead the end interest lost

>>23303315
How did Katz pull Sarah when Scirocco was his love rival?

>>23298943
Watching 0079 to watch GQx is like watching A New Hope to watch the Book of Boba Fett.