Thread 23292182

Why are they so cool?

>>23292182 (OP)
It emphasizes the mechanical nature of, well, mecha.

Why didn't they have wrist beam sabers earlier?

>>23292283
to show tech progression later down the line. Mobile suits weren't powerful enough back then.

>>23292182 (OP)
For the same reason shoulder cannons are cool, and on top of having shoulder cannons, wrist-mounted grenade launchers, and a sexy paint job, this bad boy can hover. This is what all mecha should strive to be.

>>23292283
It only really makes sense if you have a wrist mounted beam gun/cannon with an emergency beam saber option. You lose a lot of the flexibility of a beam saber by making it a mounted weapon.

>>23292283
Because tonfas weren’t cool yet
>>23292292
Not true at all

>>23292339
show me some gundamz around the OYW that have wrist beam sabers or show some relevant information to prove it's not true at all, faggot, retard, ugly motherfucker, I'll kill you on the spot and eat your liver, idiot.

They're not. It's a stupid fucking gimmick. A rifle is enough.

>>23292376
Easy, you know nothing

>>23292376
>>23292417

>>23292376
Here’s a double

>>23292429
The double wrist saber looks so fucking cool even if it's absolutely retarded in practice.

Greco had the best integrated beam sabers. It's the opposite of the wrist but still.

>>23292461
Integration of*

I guess it's only these two now that I think about it.

>>23292333
>You lose a lot of the flexibility of a beam saber by making it a mounted weapon
How, you can surprise stab, and still slash-with longer range since it's pointing completely straight vs straight held in a hand.

>>23292182 (OP)
more guns are always cool

>>23292182 (OP)
always found Shinkiro to be really cool.

>>23292283
because Wolverine didn't reach peak global popularity until after

They are great as secret last resort weapons.

>>23292476
Better angle with wrist control rather than having to move the entire arm. You also can't do the hand spin attack that the Heavy gun is shown doing in f91. For an ace or high performance suit the Wrist mounted saber can just be upgraded to a beam gun/cannon with a saber feature but command might not care to give grunts a feature like that even if it might occasionally get a surprise kill. Though some mobile suits have beam sabers store in their wrist so they probably think that's good enough.

Hi Nu Gundam have different wrist mounted weapon on its right arm. One version is small machine gun and the other version is gatling beam gun

>>23292283
ENTER

>>23292476
Try taping a fork and spoon to each of your wrists and then try to feed yourself, that's the kind of flexibility you lose with wrist-mounted saber. Granted, it doesn't matter for like 90% of beam saber combat and usage, but often it's the missing 10% that allows for fancy movements and stuff that is more interesting than a basic "swing arm to attack".

There's nothing wrong with a wrist saber as long as it doubles as a regular saber, that's what the Sinanju and Unicorns do. I can't remember if the Sinanju emits the saber blade directly from the wrist in the animation, but it's definitely a thing in a bunch of the games.

Pile bunker goes brrrrr

>>23293857
FF couldn't do anything in Unicorn without the animators getting handed a blank check to animate it. That sequence of him singlehandedly disabling the huge warship without killing anyone was pure sexo

>>23292320
It's a shame the Mudrock doesn't get any love
Proto and G3 are always around due to being recolors of Grandpa, G04 and G05 somehow get a lot of merch and 7th got to to be the main MS for a game, but Mudrock? All it did was job to a couple of Doms and Zakus

>>23292476
It's only a surprise the first time it happens. Afterwards everyone will be like "hey watch out that model has a beam saber hidden in its left wrist".

Hand beam gun reporting for duty.

Why does no one mount things under the wrist?

>>23303336
Easier to shoot yourself in the foot

>>23292320
I've never seen this thing before. Looks cool as fuck.

>>23292283
>>23292292
>>23292339
Beam Sabers were like one and dones IIRC in the original MSG. They could run out of power and have to be refueled. You could argue that's why they were in the wrists at first. Maybe it'd draw too much power from the robutt.

>>23293815
I honestly hate how Optimus Primal's mouth piece works, but the way they gave the sliding part a different panel color here actually looks pretty sick.

>>23295299
Oh wow, this thing is fucking gorgeous

>>23292182 (OP)
>what if i wanna punch somebody, they're all the way over there and my name isn' "Mazinger Z"

>>23293857
Did all of unicorn's animators just die in a fire at the same time or something? How come sunrise can't produce this kind of animation anymore?

>>23292452
Samus Aran?

>>23293651
I could see both versions being based on different tech already seen in the series, the machine gun potentially being based on the one used by the Alex having a rate of fire comparable to the Alex but faster using a single barrel while the beam Gatling would later be used as one of the weapons used by the unicorn though much more versatile

>>23292182 (OP)
>>23292320
How about both?

>>23292283
>>23293797
>>23292487

>>23293878
Hell yes

>>23303807
Who are you quoting?

>>23292182 (OP)
WHY IS THE ALEX SO FUARKING COOOL BROS?!?!?!

>>23292182 (OP)
Compatible with sleek poses, hand gesture focus, and foreshortening.

>>23293857
At the same time, you rely on and strain the wrist less, and can put as much raw torque into the attacks as into the elbow strikes.
It was also a bad move on Sinanju side here, because it wouldn't work were the machines equally matched in physical power, it would be awful if there was backup to shoot it down while it was being forced to struggle stationary, and it would've been wrecked were the opponent a bit more mindful.

>>23306073
Nobody, anon

>>23305524
Time and money

>>23303336
I'd say guns would be better mounted on the top since its easier to align with line of sight, but gadgets under mounted so it can slide into the palm easier. Have one of each.

>>23292182 (OP)
I don't think it works too well on thicker bots
Like Fire Dagwon here, even putting aside the awkward pose you can tell this thing was made for the big fuckoff sword it gets and not the dinky wrist blade it starts with

>>23292320
The only design I like from Quacks

>>23292283
Charging issues, I think. Beam sabers needed charging racks and beam guns needed E-Caps/Packs so I think they couldn't figure out how to pump minovsky particles through the arms.

>>23305993
Two duel Pile bunkers.

>>23305671
Nope, it says Metroid right there.

Koken attacks are cool

>>23292320
Shoulder cannons are grunt suit coded

>>23305719
>gelgoog jaeger
>jobs offscreen to GMs
lmao

For me, it's wrist-mounted energy propellers

>>23318739
This seems like a really bad idea

Wrist mounted swords are the coolest

>>23292333
Other way around. Wrist mounted guns IRL are impossible to use. While we have mecha, this still applies and is primarily a function of how you have to aim them being incredibly different. Remember, a wrist mounted weapon is not a turret, and the arm has to deal with recoil being off center and unbalanced, and any error makes you miss your spray of bullets. You can fix this with training or computers to approximate the recoil, but very very pointless. Shoulder guns are superior from a mechanical standpoint. Swords do not matter. That being said, it is cool.

>>23323426
Finally, beam weapons or recoilless weapons are “probably” fine.

I like the crowbar thing GaoGaiGar does during Hammer Heaven.

they're pretty minor but I like the forearm beam guns F70 and F71 have. Also how Hardygun streamlines them even more.

>>23332227
>all those wing blades and little thrusters
>looks like alex, strike freedom, and f91 had an orgy
>the tiny forearm mounted gatling gun that looks like an afterthought
This looks like something /m/ would design as a shitpost, and the longer I look at it the more I like it. And then start to hate it again.

>>23332376
you might be stupid, anon

>>23332716
This art looks awful
Did a monkey draw this?

>>23332716
Cool
>>23332717
Stupid

>>23292182 (OP)
I like Shining Gundam's "Shining Shot", which are twin beam guns in the wrists. They're able to 1 shot MS and seem to have decent range. I dunno why it wasn't added to the God Gundam.

>>23322188
I like some of Victory Gundam's mechanics, but this is just a dumb idea.

>>23337060
>>23322188

REVOLVING BUNKER

>>23336445
They streamlined it and the God Finger could fire off a beam from the palm

Not a weapon per se, but one of my favourite gimmicks.

>>23338466
What purpose does it serve exactly if the Gundam isn't attached to the Dendrobium? Has it been shown to be useful on its own?

>>23338489
It grabs racked weapons like the bazookas

>>23324062
Damn, Trowa

There is a lot of comments on here that seem ill informed. many of these are not wrist mounted but forearm mounted. (Not saying this to say they don’t belong here) if you are going to get into a sci-fi argument about something not working at least approach it from the correct angle. some of these seem to overlap onto the wrist but they aren’t connected to it. They are mounted to the forearm. So the energy weapons or lasers or whatever they shoot would send the shock into the forearm. if you approached this from an anatomical perspective the force would probably be absorbed by your bicep and shoulder blade stabilizer muscles and your lats. So if these were on a giant humanoid robot that is probably where some of the force would need to be stabilized. Again being a cartoon, this is all just my baseless speculation.

When people hurt their wrist they are usually talking about the joint and these are all positioned above that.

>>23338677
nigga this is the place where they keep calling backpack cannons "shoulder cannons" when it ain't attached to the shoulders either

beam rifles don't got rifled barrels either

don't make me bring out the show that has "beam carbines" that are even longer than the "beam rifles"

>>23338489
Well, the Stamen was always meant to be to the Dendrobium package what a Core Fighter is to an average Gundam model, so probably there's none. However, I could maybe see someone fit beam sabers or small beam guns in the Stamen's sub-arms like in the Todesritter's extra beam sabers

>>23338856
>beam rifles don't got rifled barrels either
Some do.

>>23339351
yes, it was actually used for extra long reach with the beam saber once

>>23338856
>beam carbines
You mean Unicorn's Jesta? Most official media calls it a beam rifle, not a carbine. It's considered an extended or advanced version of the Jegan's beam rifle. The gunpla manuals, the official japanese website (the profile for the jesta cannon), UC 0096 Mechanic book, as well as other databooks all call it a beam rifle. Carbine might have come from an early magazine or something. Even the novel just calls them rifles iirc.

>>23338489
It's essentially a GP01fb. They have similar specs and they serve the same role as a space superiority fighter. Difference is the GP01fb was redesigned to be a little more versatile because the GP01 got totaled, so they went and replaced everything instead of just equipping it with its space-use parts.