Thread 23295735

Black Hares Hrairoo-chan in her recon outfit is searching for updates.

--useful links--
https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/
>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entries

https://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html
>scans of some of the earlier entries

https://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/
>samples of the ongoing manga

https://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?
>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.

http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html
>another page with their stuff

https://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up
>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first one

https://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translations
>WIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entries

>last thread
>>23253417

Latest Reboot volume, [Hrududu Thethuthinnang]
https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot78/

Only just realized I forgot the title and it's too late to remove it now. Phooey.

>>23295864
Remake it ya dingus, how are anons supposed to find it?

How functional is the Inle's head camera? The figurehead on the V-fin looks obstructive and I doubt the morale benefits for the pilot from constantly staring at golden statue ass are worth such a big tradeoff in field of vision.

>>23297090
I don't think it's really that obstructive, besides there's dozens of other cameras and sensors all over the suit anyway. And don't forget the Psycho Blade itself is a psycommu sensor.

they're so cute

I love this.

>>23296012
It shows up if you search the usual terms it in the catalog, but it raises the question if you have enough faith in your peers to realize what they're looking at.

>>23298235
Is this animal abuse?

>>23295735 (OP)
>tanned
>bunny
>sharp teeth

What do you know about the reben wolf? What could the two adaptors in the lower right hand part of the image be for?

>>23299594
Some kind of adapter for attaching the Woundwart's legs to the Reben Wolf, similar to how they can also be used with the Barzam

>>23299594
I think it's for parts compatibility with the HG TR-6 Woundwort Psycho Blade Custom

>>23299594
knee high boots for Woundy.

>>23300041
Do we have an illustration for Dovenwort?

>>23300194
Nobody even thought of the concept until the Reben Wolf HG kit dropped this bombshell. It was always theoretically possible (between the Mk-V ancestry and BUNNyS handling incompatibilities) but the closest thing would be the Haze'n-thley II art with Mk-V's legs.

>>23300204
You posted the wrong one.

>>23300229
woops, that's what I get for not sorting the damn pics

>>23300204
See, this is what I mean. Fujioka must've banged his head somewhere between Flag of Titans and ReBoot because the new hover/ground mode for the Hyzenthlay II looks so much worse.

In FoT, it just had to fold down the back of the leg. In ReBoot it involves some extra mass that comes out of fucking nowhere.

>>23300241
the Flag of Titans Haze'n-thley is straight up incomplete, he only finished the design for Reboot.
Now granted, nobody is entirely 100% sure how exactly the legs work but that's hardly the first such case.

>>23300244
>the Flag of Titans Haze'n-thley is straight up incomplete, he only finished the design for Reboot.
What the fuck dude. But even then some works of art are best left unfinished.

And what's up with the beam saber tucked in the legs anyway?

>>23300250
>And what's up with the beam saber tucked in the legs anyway?
Claws are awesome. Claws with beam guns and blades inside are awesomer.
Thinking about it, it also reminds me of Hrududu's claw binder.

>>23300264
I wonder if TR engineers got data from Gabthley for this mode or if it was a testbed for the Gabthley. I like the former idea better.

I also just noticed the CSB is straight up floating next to the Hyzenthlay in that pic.

>>23300276
Yeah it's a replacement for Gabthley under the TR-6 platform Model Integration Plan, taking over its role as a high mobility combat unit while also doubling as "The Gundam" in the sense of "the strongest all purpose mobile suit" - that runs counter to TR Plan's entire doctrine but concessions had to be made to satisfy higher ups and get approval.

oh fuck we have new art

>>23301237
>>23301370
she looks happy to see me

post your favorite mechanical details

Was the black HZII that was turned into the Rehaize originally a Black Hares unit?

>>23302950
Yeah in Volume 76 it's explicitly called Black Hares colors.

>>23302977
How does Fujioka reconcile the old FoT design for the HZII? Is it just non canon now?

>>23303050
It's just an old and incomplete drawing, it's been finished and refined now. The project is called Reboot for a reason.
Obviously if you want there's nothing stopping you from treating them as different variants or what not.

>>23303056
Well shucks. I think it looks better than the Reboot design. The backskirts look more unique than the GP03 like Reboot version. I know that's the point but still.

>>23300204
>>23300229
Thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for. I figured those adapters were for woundwort, but I’m wondering if it’s hinting at a reben wolf II configuration

>>23303050
AoZ is filled with stuff this and always has been. The details, proportions, shapes have changed for everything since Day 1, it's all a work in progress infinitely.

>>23303083
Those backskirts are ass on the model frankly. I really want the Reboot version to get a kit solely to get rid of those.

Remember the Psycho Mk-III teaser from UC Engage?
It shows up at the start of the first Engage Gundam episode. I found a recording here, starting at 5:17
https://youtu.be/oZFV7XFP3hI?si=qRXFTUPh-Kw8k9gr&t=317
Psycho Mk-III is there only for the start but it's shaping up to be some prime psycommu fuckery in this story.

>>23303381
Wish the 3rd party kit was more affordable so I could stick the arms on a Gaplant.

New picture(had to resize).
It's about the emblems.
https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/special-issue5/

>>23304292
waow new background colour

>>23304292
Generally speaking, squads and factions in the Universal Century have their identifying markings. This improves morale and creates a sense of unity among the soldiers. Furthermore, individual aces sometimes have their personal emblems or colors - their presence can have a significant psychological impact on both sides of a battle.
The TR Plan is no exception, each of the TR series suits has a distinct emblem to easily identify it. Starting from GM Sniper III all the way to Gundam TR-6 [Woundwort] and [Inle], each had each own emblem. This was carried over to the "II" forms under the TR-6 platform which inherit the names of the previous units. These emblems are unique, each reflects the particular traits of its mobile suit.
They were all designed with a rabbit theme by Carl Matsubara of the Black Otter squad.

>Emblem for GM Sniper III, it was inscribed on the shield. Carl proposed it as the squad marking and it started being inscribed on the shields of his mobile suits and Eliard Hunter's helmet. Later it became [Woundwort]'s emblem as well. It features a hopping rabbit with a shield background - this reflects the Test Team's role as an experimental unit active in space and on Earth. Furthermore, there's an implication they're lab animals just like the rabbit.

>>23304292
>[Hazel Owsla]'s emblem is a rabbit on a box with a red ribbon, drawn on the missile pod on its left shoulder (what about configs where it uses a different loadout though?). It's believed it was added during a demonstration to commemorate the rollout, and the suit itself was also painted red and white at the time with an infinity symbol on the front armor. This is supposed to indicate the high modularity and growth potential of Hazel and its optional equipment.
>Emblem of the decisive battle weapon [Inle]. It depicts a rabbit with large wings - which can be interpreted as the Titans symbol. The design suggests the rabbit has been reborn as a hawk, reflecting how the TR Plan completed the final weapon of the Titans.
>Emblem for [Hrairoo], [Hrairoo II], [Fiver] and [Fiver II] features a rabbit with an extremely large spear carrying a carrot. As Gaplant TR-5 is a machine designed for independent high-attitude interceptions the marking takes the form of an angel descending from the skies to bestow eternal life.
>[Bigwig] emblem has a rabbit wearing a helmet representing the Hizack and a gun representing the Bigwig Cannon itself. It's painted on the Hizack's shield and the [Bigwig]'s rear armor.
>The [Kehaar] and [Kehaar II] emblem features a rabbit on a UFO with wings, a beak and eyes. [Kehaar] is the UFO itself while the rabbit represents the MS its carrying which reflects its role as a SubFlight System. On the Space Type the UFO doesn't have the wings nor face.
>Emblem for [Dandelion] and [Dandelion II] with a rabbit getting roasted on a frying pan. The pan represents [Dandelion]'s atmospheric entry form, surrounded by the flames reflecting the high heat of the maneuver. Compared to other emblems, this rabbit has a very different expression.

>>23304613
Bondage...

>>23304632
Hazel-chan wearing a shibari for a special celebration...

Awesome, the emblems are one of my favorite parts of AoZ. One of the things that makes it a little more unique compared to everything else. Wouldn't be the same without that Fujioka staple. Hopefully we get a guide for the rest soon. Finally clears up me having to awkwardly google what emblems go where.

>>23303155
>Those backskirts are ass on the model frankly.
What's wrong with it? They don't move but I don't think that's an issue.

My only problem with it is that the length of the blade is about 2/3 as lengthy as it should be according to the lineart. Not sure what Bandai was thinking.

>>23300229
The modified feet makes me wonder if we’ll get an aoz ver MKV gundam

Would trying to fit the Byarlant Custom's arms onto a Woundwort similar to a gigantic arms set up be stupid since it's a feddie suit, or work since it's still pretty much still Titans in design between the Byarlant and Gabthley parts for said arms?

>>23305070
Not only is Byarlant Custom at the end of the day still a Titans suit, but that's also a distinction without a difference. Titan suits are Federation suits and the TR Plan encompasses all of it. Hell, through BUNNyS you can even combine it with Neo Zeon gear.
In short, resounding YES.
Incidentally, it's explicitly shown the Icarus unit can have the Byarlant arms attached.

>>23305077
Ohhh, neat. Fairly new to AOZ, but the Vanilla Woundwort showing back up in the p-bandai shop has gotten me thinking about different ways to play around with it in relation to other Titan's suits/kits. Especially after seeing the Woundwort with gigantic arms some time ago. The Byarlant Custom's arms in particular came to mind for having a bit more bulk than the default's, in addition to the weaponry provided.

>>23304760
The Hazenthlay comes with a longer blade than the Hyzenthlay, for some reason.

>>23305150
...they're both named Haze'n-thley, anon

>>23305153
I don't care.

>>23304760
>My only problem with it is that the length of the blade
I used to shitpost about this calling the model kit out of scale. Comparing the model kit to the lineart and using the head as a reference to make sure the two images are scaled properly, I think the difference is the hip joint placement and not the rifle being longer in the lineart. No idea if this was somewhat of a redesign or mechanical limitations preventing the kit from matching the proportions of the lineart.

>>23305205
It's a consequence of Woundwort itself being taller - as if it was 18m rather than ~16m. However the strange thing here is that the kit designer stated the height is according to the setting, so there seems to be something we don't know about.
In all fairness AoZ never really concerns itself with catalog specs (which is for the best) but height in particular could benefit from being clearly stated. I can see the reasoning for making it taller too, even besides kit engineering limitations these proportions lend themselves better to the combined forms compared to a baby-sized Woundwort.
This in turn leads to bigger Haze'n-thley II, by roughly the same proportion as Woundwort kit compared to lineart.
But there's also the fact that it's based on the Flag of Titans design so it doesn't fully reflect the modern design either way and shouldn't be taken as gospel regardless.

This, too, is AoZ.

Is the inverted colors Kehaar II from somewhere or just a bootleg original?

>>23306305
it's just test team colors

>>23306307
neato

TR plan this, TR plan that. What about the NTR plan?

very uncomfy...

>>23304613
>Emblem for [Hrairoo], [Hrairoo II], [Fiver] and [Fiver II] features a rabbit with an extremely large spear carrying a carrot. As Gaplant TR-5 is a machine designed for independent high-attitude interceptions the marking takes the form of an angel descending from the skies to bestow eternal life.
interesting explanation for the tweak from the original design
>The [Kehaar] and [Kehaar II] emblem features a rabbit on a UFO with wings, a beak and eyes. [Kehaar] is the UFO itself while the rabbit represents the MS its carrying which reflects its role as a SubFlight System. On the Space Type the UFO doesn't have the wings nor face.
oh fuck it's because Asshimar looks like a UFO
>Emblem for [Dandelion] and [Dandelion II] with a rabbit getting roasted on a frying pan. The pan represents [Dandelion]'s atmospheric entry form, surrounded by the flames reflecting the high heat of the maneuver. Compared to other emblems, this rabbit has a very different expression.
the rabbit is fucking burning to death, you can see the whole ribcage OH GOD SOMEONE SAVE THE BUNNY

>>23304611
>>23304613
Oh. My. God.

>>23308575
...I guess it doesn't count as a bush if it's everywhere else too, right? Any furries can weigh in on this? Don't pretend you aren't here.

>>23308575
I... I don't think we can use this as a thread pic anons
>>23308697
Now this on the other hand

>>23308653
>>23308702
its ok, she's wearing pantsu

Flag of Titans manga volume 2 is up
https://mangadex.org/title/305a0da3-0a8b-4c3e-8b78-d854ed0a54d4/advance-of-z-the-flag-of-titans

>>23309019
Real shame the art looks like shit. Honestly better off reading the novel and using your imagination for a change.

>>23309023
yeah it's nothing impressive but tbf majority of manga have just serviceable art when you get down to it
and here at least the Flag of Titans manga adaptation adds some more stuff so it's a nice supplement to the novel. But still just a supplement since it doesn't have the postwar section.

>>23309019
Buy an ad you fucking faggot and stay on Twitter. No one cares about your shit ass translations you should have finished FIFTEEN fucking years ago.

>>23309033
I care
take your meds anon

And now new Inle chapter too
https://comick.io/comic/advance-of-zeta-re-boot-gundam-inle-black-rabbit-had-a-dream

>>23309573
Thank God Zeonic will hopefully be able to take over. Fuck those Crossbone Lab faggots for dicking up every manga they touch with Google translate slop

>>23309632
>>23309033
same person

>>23304613
Hazel Hrair also got its own emblem recently

>>23308653
The term for that is "kemo-safe", that is, it's sfw because it's a furry and everything is covered with fluff

>>23309637
Sure it is. Quit trying to deflect your own same post onto others

>>23309654
I don't thought this emblem was Haze'n'thley's last I checked. Is it shared between them?

All this talk about the AoZ emblems has me looking at the P-Ban decal sheet trying to figure out what next week's illustration will have in it. No way this isn't a one off, because there's more emblems than I thought even existed on this thing, and I only knew a handful. (More now that the guide is coming out.)

>>23309734
Haze'n-thley's marking was replaced with this armored bunny in Reboot. Like before, it was unfinished during Gryps War but now we know it was later used on Mars. The original bunny-with-sword sketch was reused for Hazel Hrair.

>>23309543
hey there little guy
I guess this is a different loadout for the Recon Zaku III? Looking at the lineart it might just be a lighter equipment set, without the radomes and sensor pods which probably aren't too useful when they're stuck on the ground. Neat.
The Adzam is very cool though, I hope we see a proper illustration for it at some point.
Also is the implication that the nun is fucking the doctor?

>>23309023
some of it is really nice honestly

>>23304611
>>Emblem for GM Sniper III, it was inscribed on the shield. Carl proposed it as the squad marking and it started being inscribed on the shields of his mobile suits and Eliard Hunter's helmet. Later it became [Woundwort]'s emblem as well. It features a hopping rabbit with a shield background - this reflects the Test Team's role as an experimental unit active in space and on Earth. Furthermore, there's an implication they're lab animals just like the rabbit.

Much like the original show's fight with Big Zam, the new GQuX episode is a great showcase of exactly why large mobile armors like that benefit from having a dedicated buddy escort suit to counter direct attacks. See Reben Wolf Custom with Big Zamuru (Zamlu? who knows?) or El-Ahrairah with Rabscuttle.

>>23308575
Bunny Bask is great.

>>23313311
You mean Bunnsk.

>>23313322
Bnuuysk

>>23313311
He needs to wear a leotard and fishnets too

>>23313168
Worth mentioning that the Gquux Gyans seem tailor-made to kill Big Zams, having large physical rocket lances to get in close and ignore the I-field, and rocket launchers on the shield to provide suppressing fire as they do so. The game was rigged from the start

>>23313347
Not to mention the entire squad was clearly well trained. I suspect they've been practicing Big Zam takedown tactics far more than, say, combat against Federation forces.

>>23313351
IIRC Xavier explicitly says "just like in the training", so yeah they stacked the deck.

>>23313354
Kycilia was absolutely ruthless about the entire operation. No doubt Gihren was preparing for the same thing but she moved first, sooner than anyone expected.

>>23313358
I don't think Gyrem even knew it was coming, he was never presented as being particularly clever or cunning. His thing was always big stick policy, I have the big gun so I can bully you. Solar Ray back in 079, Big Zams here. It's telling that he only brought a couple Big Zams to the meeting, anshe was so certain they were "unmatched in space" that he started bullying Kycillia; making her wait on him, etc. Remember the "I wanna be like Hitler" speech? He was never one to think things through or consider all the angles. Even the OYW went like that; at first tehy had Zakus and Feds didn't so they bullied them, and as soon as feds got MS the whole thing started to fall apart.

>>23313371
True that. Gihren is certainly not above intrigue but this sort of schemes just aren't his thing, he prefers the schoolyard bully approach.
Kycilia is generally better equipped for winning the power struggle but there's no guarantee she'll win the aftermath.

Hazel beam rifle sexo

>>23314380
the revolver mag is so fucking extra, I love it so much
I assume this is gonna have one of the barrel extensions added, but it would be really funny to just keep it as the dinky rifle with a scope bigger than the barrel and a revolver mag as big as the gun itself

>>23314388
you act as if a sniper smg is a bad idea

I wonder how would TR Plan adapt parts from medium-large ~30m class mobile suits. Psycho-sized limbs can be attached as super heavy equipment, and mobile suits up to 20 something meters are still compatible with Woundwort's limb expansion system. But something like Mass Produced Psycho Gundam feels excessive for that, and at the same time treating it like standard Psycho Gundam gear doesn't seem appropriate given its scale.

>>23304979
I'd sooner imagine the idea here is that they're optional replacements - Mk-V is characterized by a very modular construction so it tracks. That said if we were to get Mk-V art from Fujioka today I wouldn't be surprised if it looked similar to this fanart, with Reben-style legs.

>>23314428
There are almost none of them to pull from so I doubt they cared/it's kind of a limited question. UC already only has a few 40M machines, but there are very, very few that actually fit into the space of something like 24m to 39m heights.

https://x.com/OliverZhao1203/status/1932802133264642516
thiccwort

>>23314436
ick

>>23314436
Not a fan of that head and legs. Really don't like it.

>>23314436
Is this how oldfans felt when they saw the aoz barzam?

>>23314436
screw you all this looks cool and the face is cute as fuck

>>23314745
It’s not ugly, but I’ve never been a fan of redesigns that change the most distinctive features of the original in favor of a more traditional Gundam face and slimmer silhouette

>>23314436
>no chin guard
6/10

>>23315062
proven fact, a pointy chin automatically adds 4-6 inches to your cock

>>23309654
>>23310981
I love the late 2000s MMO energy of this

>>23314751
I just noticed the Hyzenthlay II face is the Mk-V face design. As in, it's not based on it, it literally is the same face.

>>23315762
yes, that was the point

>>23314436
I dunno if its the proportions, or the way its drawn, or the way the panels fall over the frame, but this thing looks kind of feminine.

>>23315762
>>23315062

>>23316073
Huh, never realised that's a Refined Barzam head

Thots on dreadlock Woundwort?

>>23316228
first impression of the silhouette reminded me of early 00 gundams with the pronounced GN Cables, especially Plutone. Very nice.
I'm loving the idea in general. The "core" of Type 2 BUNNyS looks like a coffin which is not concerning in the least, especially when the outer armor layer is also called restrains. Eva vibe is obvious but it's not like Eva has a monopoly on this kind of stuff.
And the dreadlocks are a cool look too, data transfer straight to the dome is just smart. Also reminds me of how in Gundam Inle we see the CSB's claws can send out small tendrils for manipulation at a human scale.

>>23316228
>>23316250
there's more

>>23316260
>>23314472
>>23314380
it's all converging together

>>23316250
>Also reminds me of how in Gundam Inle we see the CSB's claws can send out small tendrils for manipulation at a human scale.
you have to show me that

>>23316388
It's really cute actually.

I love these guys

consider the following

>>23315955
It's a TR plan MS, of course it is feminine
>>23316228
>>23316260
not doing it for me chief

>>23318233
Wow, a little sister cosplaying the white Galbaldy, how cute.
Personally, I think Marasai is the more suitable base out of the box, but what do I know.

>>23316213
reminds me of when it cameo'd in the Big Barzam Chart together with the Mysterious Entity above it

Sometimes, I think the guys on Weibo are more like us than we realize...

>>23318877
top looks like Barzam with clown nose

>>23295735 (OP)
>shark teeth
Based
https://x.com/26rDPpQkurpc9Iw/status/1901445726871367887

>>23318987
Why the Periodic Table? And what's the chud saying?

>>23319948
>Why the Periodic Table?
Meme about it being annoying to learn, unlike the MS chart below.
>And what's the chud saying?
AOZ, the pleasure of being cummed inside!

>>23319958
based

>>23319786
TR [DIII]

>>23319786
Now this I like. I feel like the gun borders on retardation but manages to stay within the cool zone. It's easy to fuck it up, see picrel for a similar style of gun that fucks up royally

>>23320046
these are cute

>>23319958
based

>>23319786
how much work did you need to do to get the legs to fit? are the leg adaptors on the woundwort fairly universal?

>>23320041
>>23320046
it looks nice from the front but the back structure is a little unholy
>>23320230
i found it here
https://x.com/bull_doge1125/status/1933864049122619882
you'll have to look and check if there's any WIP pics. Though looking at the manual online it shouldn't be too difficult, might be as simple as switching the polycap in DII's knee from the slit type to a peg type.

>>23318877
The actual Mysterious Entity in that chart is below it.
Nouvel GM III (AOZ ver.) is the funniest shit ever to me.

>>23320367
post it

>>23318877
that's just a normal Barzam?

>>23320387
Just have the whole chart.
Honestly, I might've exaggerated how funny it is. But it is at least a chuckle worthy.

>>23320419
I may be stupid, but it looks like just a usual Nouvel GM III? Just drawn by Fujioka, but with nothing particularly special besides that.

>>23320581
anon's just got a weird sense of humor bro. there's nothing so funny about it.

>>23320581
It's a Katokified Nouvel GM III.
KATOKIFIED. NOUVEL. GM III.
Like, I'm fine when Fujioka does it retroactively to all sorts of past GMs, even when it doesn't particularly make sense, like Shimoda Squad Sniper Custom, but when not even Katoki designs are safe I can't help but grin.

>>23320622
the entirety of AoZ is based off the GM Quel, Custom and Type C, all Katoki jims. What are you even getting at bro

>>23320622
it just makes sense, really. Everything is drawn in a unified style for simplicity's sake and to highlight the significant differences between them. It also just so happens the style is based on Katoki's.
and Sniper Custom has been Katoki'd before by the man himself. Pretty neat honestly, there's no reason why a Type C can't be converted to Sniper Custom spec and the shield is a nice touch.

>>23320622
>>23320628
also honestly I'm going to have to ask why Novel GM III and RF Barzam aren't equally funny I guess

>>23320388
yeah that's the thing
what's that guy doing here, that's not how Barzam looks in AoZ
it's literally in the same volume that introduced the AoZ Barzam design, what's the deal

>>23320628
Nouvel is by Katoki and is a GM.
More over it is a fresh batch of GM IIIs, thus could actually look different.
>>23320637
Because Kai is actually super easy to explain and it was done multiple times before. Might as well point out AOZ Gundam going into Nero using hueg TR-S silhouette.
>>23320630
I know, which is why I specified Shimoda Squad.
And while it does make some sense and I don't particularly care about small inconsistencies like that, the meticiousness of it when even Senitiel designs are revised does hit my funny bone.

>>23320687
But again, the entire basis of AoZ has been redesigning stuff from Katoki's Jims. The Quel is literally the starting point for everything.

>>23320721
Technically if you wanna be cute about it the beginning was mixing Quel (and Custom) with Alex's head to get the idea across for the staff and for the initial teaser in dengeki hobby.

>>23320734
I'm not getting cute about anything, I just don't get why the Novel GM III is unique to anon when the whole series is redesigning Katoki GMs. Like, every single one. It's the same thing. GM Quel (AoZ), GM Novel III (AoZ), Barzam (AoZ), what makes anything unique about one of these over the other? I don't get it. It's just Fujioka drawing Jims.

>>23320734
we got a better view of it too

blorbo

>>23321703
>Oggo digivolves into Gaza-C

>>23321703
I can't help but chuckle at the... rocket-powered rocket launcher? Attached to the bottom of the Gaza-M

>>23322140
it's the same type as used on Agg

>>23295735 (OP)
I wish AoZ kits weren't stuck in P-Bandai hell.

>>23320639
BR-GM C2 has a structure based on the AoZ Barzam even though we have a clear acknowledgement of the anime design. It's explained thusly:
>However, some say that the redesign was just a reversion back to the TR Project, though it is unknown how true that is.

>>23322385
I'd bring an AK to Bandai HQ but I think it's 50/50 desu. Without P-Bandai a lot of those wouldn't ever be made. Although some of them like the HG Woundwort and HG Hizack Custom absolutely shouldn't be PB.

At least bootleggers are coming to the rescue.

>>23322435
>BR-GM C2 has a structure based on the AoZ Barzam
How can that even be if it doesn't have the drum frame construction of the AoZam?

Is this AoZ?

We need more Psyco Gundam love
>>23322520
Man, this really puts the Messer's size into perspective. Also I'm pretty sure this is the equivalent of strapping WW2 rockets to an F35

>>23322941
ask and ye shall receive

>>23322448
>How can that even be if it doesn't have the drum frame construction of the AoZam?
Looks to be replaced with an equivalent movable frame structure. Probably some pros and cons to the approach.

>>23323325
I mean, is drum frame even good for anything but cheaper transformability (not applicable to Barzam anyway) and TR-S/TR-6 equipment compatibility (rare, since the plan gone south)?
It seems to me that movable frame is just a more reliable option.

>>23323237
Lordy, imagine this thing with six beam blades active all at once...

>>23324014
It's a robust, simple and versatile sort of joint specialized in suspending heavy objects and modular construction. It's a sort of universal bearing of the space age, commonly used in every day items and industrial equipment. Mobile suits use it primarily for high strain parts like heavy gear or transformation systems. The TR Plan makes particularly heavy use of the concept (together with bellows frame and movable frame) but it's been used before and long afterwards too.
In most cases a movable frame structure does everything you could ask of a mobile suit but there are cases where an alternative approach is more effective.
The pic here >>23302676 details the IRL story of how it was designed, working back from existing mecha like Oggo, GP00 or the Gaza series based on the publisher's request. It's also born from model kit engineering requirements which Fujioka chose to interpret in a positive way, serving as basis for an in-universe engineering principle rather than just brushing it off as "it's for the sake of plastic kits".

>>23323237
Good god, it’s scary how close the titans were into deploying these things at its full potential had the Dakar speech not occur

>>23323237
fucked up thin is that we have like 96% of the parts to build it no problem
I think all we're missing is the Inle INCOMs and the reinforced Barzam chest armor. Some other stuff might need tweaking to stick together properly but no biggie. That said I am still a bit annoyed AoZ Barzam kit doesn't have a built in method of attaching Hrududu II to it, in general that kit has a lot of good but also a lot of weird engineering.
At least Aqua Hambrabi II does the trick, here's hoping we get a proper Hambrabi II kit.

>>23324133
I know this is fanart, but is it standard issue for the woundwort to carry a beam saber in the subarm?

>>23324266
yep

>Hey buddy, we’ve got an axis zeon patrol group coming in, could you eliminate all of them, make sure it’s less than five minutes
Understood

>>23324280
>smacks against both sides of the hangar door on the way out
>sneaks up to the enemies because they think it must be some really fucked up
>fires every weapon at once
>trying to manage the recoil makes BUNNyS bluescreen
>(the cyber newtype child soul is having a stroke)
>the Zeek patrol doesn't know what hit them
>literally
>they can't tell what the fuck that thing is
>they think it's the Titans superweapon they've heard rumors about
>skedaddleforHaman.jpg
>their report eventually lands on Haman's desk
>she throws it in the trash without looking at it because she's thinkin about Judau
>50 years later a copy of the data is somehow recovered
>experts unanimously agree it's a child's drawing
YET ANOTHER FLAWLESS VICTORY, GLORY TO THE TITANS

>>23324288
>some really fucked up
...wreckage
damn it

>>23324280
>the axis zeon patrol:

>>23324297
A malfunctioning MA prototype they pawned off to some dipshits?

>>23324300
Said dipshits were titans remnants

>>23324300
Malfunctioning? Fuck you sir, I'll have you know (slaps hand on chassis) this baby overheats and explodes magnificently as designed! All those rumors about it being a repurposed supergiant space-to-earth missile are lies spread by SNRI (So Not Really Intelligent) monkeys trying to besmirch our good name! We absolutely did not pivot the project into a strategic atmospheric dive mobile armor at the last milestone of development by slapping on a cockpit and beam cannon!

>>23324288
>trying to manage the recoil makes BUNNyS bluescreen
>(the cyber newtype child soul is having a stroke)
Just as Bask Om intended. Newtypes should suffer, even in ghost form

Leave AEUG to me

>>23325367
Theoretically possible, kinda wanna see a gunpla mock-up

>>23325367
That's some weird fuel tanks in the back.

>>23325437
Those are not fuel tanks anon...

>>23325546
what are these then?

>>23326045
Looks like Zaku III back skirt thrusters

>>23326070
oh damn I'm blind

>>23328281
don't bring that evil here
>>23328234

>>23328281
cinema

>>23328281
Is it a kind of dream
Floating out on the tide
Following the river of death downstream?
Oh, is it a dream?

it's interesting how the artstyle changed over the years

>>23331166
And if you ask me it changed for the worse.

>>23295735 (OP)
recon type? more like wife-type

>>23331252
Reckon you're right.

>>23331166
And it got so much better

>>23331166
right has a freefloating shield with no reasonable way to be attached as it is and this annoys me.

>>23331252
>sharp teeth
>chocolate
Dangerous combo.

>>23331689
it attaches to the shoulder
>>23331252
I thought the white streak in the background was a jizz streak coming from her crotch

>>23332633
That'd be Hrairoo II

>>23304292
New picture about the emblems.
https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/2636575/

>>23332948
please fujioka
please stop stalling

>>23332948
The last article explained some emblems for TR-1 all the way to TR-6, but this one focuses on TR-1 and TR-6 variants. The rabbit design is still inspired by a particular suit, but can also be used by associated models. For example, the Gigantic Arm Unit emblem was made for Hazel but it's also used for any other suit equipped with this loadout, such as Gaplant TR-5. Likewise, the various TR-6 forms inherit the emblem of its counterpart, such as [Hrududu] and [Hrududu II]. As before, these are drawn in-universe by Karl Matsubara.

The story of how the idea for these emblems came about goes like this:

Leaders of the TR Plan visited the newly established T3 Unit to inspect and encourage them. Among them was a man called "Professor" and a child. The child was a Cyber Newtype from the Oakland NT Institute, a test subject undergoing preparation to become a dedicated pilot for the future Gundam TR-S.

>We're making your Gundam. What kind of machine do you want to pilot?

>I'd like something cute. Like the rabbit he's holding.

The child referred to Wes Murphy's pet rabbit kept on board the ship.

Karl saw that exchange, and the various TR Plan emblems may reflect his thoughts on it.

>>23333168
from top to bottom:

Emblem for [Hazel Hrair], the originally intended conclusion of the Project. A rabbit in full armor with a large sword. The rabbit's body is jet black and eyes bright red. It was made in advance of the suit's completion, before development was switched to TR-6.
[Hazel]'s emblem, attached to rear skirt armor. The theme is a rabbit with a flying cap and goggles representing the enhanced armor.
The emblem for [Queenly] has a self-explanatory theme. The hair/ears spreading side to side may represent weapon containers.
[Hrududu] and [Hrududu II] emblem. The rabbits are symmetrical, which is meant to represent the true value in the form of two combined units.
This emblem was originally intended for Galbaldy Beta High Mobility Type, but as the suit was stolen it was inherited by Gundam TR-1 [Hazel II]. The large ears represent the two shield boosters. It was drawn on the enhanced rear skirt armor.
[Advanced Hazel]'s emblem seems to have a devil motif, possibly as a counterpart to [Fiver]'s and [Hrairoo]'s marking. The rabbit itself is dark now, reflecting [Hazel]'s switch to standard Titans colors. The bandage on the right ear/wing represents the Enhanced Shield Booster.
Emblem for [Hazel Owsla] with the Gigantic Arm Unit and other models with that loadout. The outdated [Hazel] is depicted as a Jiangshi (a Chinese vampire, essentially) armed and enhanced with various weapons to give it more power. The ears(?) hanging from the hat represent the Psycho Gundam arms while the human souls floating around it stand for the winch units.
Emblem of [Haze'n-thley] and [Haze'n-thley II]. A rabbit knight wearing a helmet. Eyes look forward, and ears spread backwards like wings about to take flight.

>>23308575
he doubled down on it
only like half of these drawings get fully colored

>>23332966
stalling so the 100th volume (everything about Hazel Hrair) can coincide with its kit announcement, trust the plan

>>23333479
Okay, but how many volumes after that we'll have to wait for AOZ Gundam? 50? Another 100?

>>23333630
It'd be nice to have a bunch of entries devoted to SSD stuff, the way we've had Mars Zeon, ReZeon and now Black Hares "theme" for some time. Idk if that would start off with ZZZ or cap off with it though, plus it'd be cool if it coincided with the manga coming off hiatus but we still have no ETA on that. Either way I wouldn't hold your breath for now, at most there could be some tidbits once we get more details on Hrair.

>>23333392
That's... that's rabbit pubic hair. If that's Bask Om in the back, is she supposed to be Deux? Or maybe a humanized Hazel given the red fingertips

>>23334535
What the…

>>23334536
unholy content

>>23334535
>>23334539
Didn't we headcanon a lore explanation for a "[The O II]" variant a couple months ago? I remember a similarly converted model prompted it

>>23334539
What mobile suit is underneath that?

>>23334606
A weird Chimera of Wundy, and other stuff, I thin I see Narrative in there?

>>23334594
Yeah, I was the anon that pulled that from Weibo. Definitely was some time back, but I still have the pics and screenshots from that thread. The AOZ community is nuts in Weibo, I need to find the time to post some of what I find.
Whatever it is in the post above me is some terrifying abomination of various parts, [The O II] was a tad more coherent, methinks.

>>23334748
Can you post the screenshots?

>>23334748
And speaking of some of the nutty Weibo stuf, get a look at this: Psycho asshimar.

I've been digging trying to find better pictures of it, but so far my search hasn't turned out much. This one is fun because there's a decent amount of what appears to be original parts in this piece. Cheers.

>>23334753
I'll try, it's gonna take me a bit find it all.

>>23334760
oh shit, post more angles of this thing too

>>23334762
That's all I have of it, for now. Its the current thing I'm working on digging out from the Weibo mines as it where.

>>23334753
>>23334594

Honestly, it's worth asking if anyone knows of an arch4bk equivalent that hosts material from /m/ exists, because I wouldn't know if there was.
From my own personal screenshots, I did find the lore one anon made for the [The O II]

Something else I found by the same guy who did the Psycho Asshimar.

>>23334868
Ah yes, the [Clusterfuck supreme]. It hunts by pretending to be space debris, enemies think it's just a bunch of MS wrecks crashed into each other until it strikes. It can't actually move any of its limbs, so it attacks by ramming and hoping one of the protruding blades hits them

>>23334535
>>23334539
looks like something you'd see in a hobby magazine back when they were doing tons of Build Fighters spinoffs.
>what if this Mobile Suit
>but it's a DIFFERENT Mobile Suit

If it was painted to have a more unified color scheme it wouldn't look as awkward.

>>23333168
>>23333171
that's a nice backstory for the emblems, and it's cool to see how some of the style changed over time, losing the cuteness and sincerity for the sake of intimidation and power just as Titans lose any pretense of their mission. Poor Hazel turned from a symbol of endless potential to just a corpse that can barely keep up with what's requested of it...
I wonder if that's it for the emblems or if we'd get something about assorted markings too like the GA-PLANT on Hrududu II or Zeon markings.

>>23335998
I think it's more of a reflection of the MSes themselves becoming engineering clusterfucks as more equipment gets bolted on, as per entries like the Owsla's. The original Inle is a relatively clean sheet design, and it gets a simpler and cutesy emblem to reflect that

>>23334100
Maybe she's the Hazel II emblem. (Titans officer is just her day job)

>>23334812
Desuarchive

>>23336178
to be fair Inle's marking itself is a cute little bunny turning into a warhawk and an embodiment of everything the Titans are

>>23331252
Must be nice to have the talent to draw kino mobile suit designs and magnificent asses.

>>23336727
life goals, honestly
and then cosplay them both

Early Hrairoo my beloved

>>23338093
I kinda hate the early hrairoo. two shields on one arm is silly af.

mad scientist type shit

>>23338921
G-Quuuux AoZ just doesn't hit the same

>>23338921
damn this fits well

>>23338921
looks like trash

Haze'n-thley II Rah doesn't have reboot artwork yet right?

>>23340050
vol 77

>>23323325
The pros and cons probably come down to cost effectiveness in the context of BR-GM C2's intended use case. It's not a frontline main unit, it's a redesign from UC 0110s intended for backline garrisons and similar locations. You want that to be cheap and simple to maintain and fix up, so it shouldn't require too many specialized parts and knowledge. And while drum frames as a concept are nothing unique, the type designed for TR Plan isn't shared by any units commonly deployed by EFF so it's simply not optimal here. It might not have the same sheer degree of modularity and expandability as TR Barzam, but it's not expected to have it either.
There's some basis for this idea as Musika is also based around switching from specialized drum frame to more common movable frame structure. Even if here it's ironically turning to use Barzam as the platform. Should we call the anime Barzam a "Normal Type" or something like that in cases like this?

>>23341285
>Even if here it's ironically turning to use Barzam as the platform.
There's nothing ironic about EFF using the single best choice available to them. Otherwise they'd had to cook up something completely new or go beg Anaheim or Scirocco.
Well, I guess they could use Owsla, if the MP version was more common, maybe?

>>23341429
I meant that it's ironic to use Barzam as a movable frame basis when the topic is about TR Barzam's drum frame structure.

>>23341446
I like to think that some unaware engineers were really excited about a MP version of Gundam Mk-II and then they saw Barzam.

>>23316228
>>23316260
Jesus, are we King Gainer now? I was willing to forget about gqxxxx, but holy shit; they're ruining everything?

>>23342077
smartest gqux hater

wife...

>>23344726
You have to let her go anon. it's been years...

is this /aoz/?

>>23347198
everything is /aoz/ if you dig deep enough

this is inevitable isn't it

>>23347756
true

this fits so well...

>>23349734
Hazel + G-Line? Can't tell if there's anything else involved here.

>>23349080
Well, Refined Barzam is basically a Mk2 with a Barzam head, so by that logic Refined Barzam II Would be a Hazel with a Woundwort head. So basically [Hazen'thley]

>>23350618
No, I'm pretty sure that Refined Barzam is a Barzam with Mk-II arms, legs and equipment.
So if you're implying that relationship between Hazel and Woundwort is the same as relationship between Mk-II and Barzam (which I don't quite agree with), you're thinking of TR-6 [Hazel II].

>>23347198
I need a source on this anon

>>23350618
it really only has Mk-II's arms, everything else while obviously based on Mk-II isn't the exact same

>>23350679
@WING_GH0ST

>>23350618
strictly speaking even the head is a bit different
>>23316073

should we bake a new thread or keep this around for a moment? There's not much discussion right now so maybe no need to rush yet

Is there any good reason why Fujioka haven't given Galluss-S a heat rod?

>>23355725
Not much reason why it would have one? It's a commander/escort unit.

>>23355529
That depends on how much longer do you think we'll have to wait for a new illustration

>>23355906
Because Galluss always kinda begged for one, as a close quarters combat MS.

>>23356187
they're usually on fridays so...

>>23356216
get baking

>>23356227
>>23356227
>>23356227
baking's done

>>23356210
That said, I feel like there's a lack of close quarters MS in AoZ in general.
There's nothing like G-Line Assault Armor from what I remember.

>>23356210
even though heat rods were able to cut through the gundam's luna titanium, it seems to have died off as a weapon because I guess like heat blades, they're somewhat inferior and even if they can clash with a beam saber for a while, eventually it'll break down, and generally needs more physical, time-consuming maintenance than a beam saber

if nothing else wing had a neat idea in making a heat rod out of their universe's super special gundam alloy, which made it not only more resistant to beams but it was also thicker and chain-like which made it effective as a bludgeoning weapon

>>23357546
Is that so? Because heat rod felt to me like a longer reach option you use in tandem with a heat blade or a beam saber and not a substitute for one. RF Gouf got a new model of it too.
As for your idea, it is neat. You can also put a big spiky ball on it to increase the bludgeonability.

The real reason why Hazel is a GM and not a Gundam is because it doesn't carry a Gundam Hammer.

Imagine not reaching the bump limit.