>>23302710 (OP)
Does he still hate women? Only way I can give him a second chance after g-reco.

Will he even live long enough to finish it?

Wasn't he working on a Himiko inspired anime?

>>23302747
Watch it be combined into becoming G-Himiko

Stick to AZ

>>23302710 (OP)
I hope he completes it and gets to live longer to create more. He's not that young and with manga/anime creators dying recently...

Gaia Gear bros, this time for sure...

>>23302710 (OP)
please kick tsurumaki's ass, tomino

Get lost, Tomino!
The future is now, old man.

>>23302721
I hope not I want him to make another girl as good as Aida

>>23302730
he just needs to claim the life of another to have enough time

>>23302784
He will praise him.

>>23302710 (OP)
If he suddenly gets super depressed whatever he makes will be fantastic. Otherwise G rec 2.0.

>>23302710 (OP)
Will it be dogshit?

>>23302797
Soon a buster machine or maybe a haro will come and restore some but not all of his youth.

>>23302797
That artificial Japanese blood in the news recently? That's not for hospital patients, that's for Tomino.

>>23302710 (OP)
>僕はターンエーでガンダムを止めました。
>I stopped doing Gundam with Turn A.
Does he not consider G-Reco a Gundam series?

>>23302710 (OP)
Triple Zeta Gundam please!

>>23302806
it's gundam, of course it will be

>>23302710 (OP)
Isnt that the PERVERT who wants his female characters be so HOT that teenage boys want to lick their vaginas?

>>23302818
He's trying to tell the world he didn't make G-Reco, it was a cabal puppeteering him around. or even he is dissatisfied with g-reco and wants a better swans song

>>23302721
G-Reco is theast good Gundam.

>>23302710 (OP)
Will it Gaia Gear or Crossbone or compilation films or new stuff?

>>23302861
as expected of a grecotard
why dont you go be happy and enjoy life like the BABY CAST of your little BABY show

>>23302721
He never did?

Whatever Tomino creates I will watch

After G-Reco, I doubt he can write or direct a good anime.
Tomino lost his touch and should not be given another change.

God I hope it's as amazing as g reco.

>>23302890
It could be the worst written dogshit imaginable and I still think they should give Tomino the greenlight. Nobody writes things like he does and the fact he still wants to do this shit at over 80 is insane.

>>23302890
It was Zeta for me.

>>23303149
shut up jerid

>>23302818
They did deliberately remove the Gundam part of the title for the films.

>>23302793
is he looking at dat azz

He's talking about it kind of like he talked about Zeta back in the day, as a series made "in recognition of reality." This is why there's the Moon Jews and Moon Chinks and weird backroom sponsor shit going on with the AEUG, and why all the villains literally want the exact same thing as the protagonists but with THEM in charge because FUCK YOU that's why. He says this one would be expressive of his feelings about the state of the modern world

>>23302710 (OP)
do japanese boomers ever retire? seems like the answer is no. must be frustrating as a young guy trying to work your way up. and you have to kiss the bosses ass and go out for drinks with them every night too after he makes you do all the work while taking naps and jerking off to idols in his office. (I won't get into what the females have to do)

G-Reco is his best work and it would even be more amazing if he tops that one

>CCA: Love the earth, don't be bound by history's turmoils, care for those around you (mother focus)
>Turn A: Love the earth, don't be bound by history's turmoils, care for those around you (generational focus)
>G-Reco: Love the earth, don't be bound by history's turmoils, care for those around you (sibling focus)
The age of cousins is nigh

>>23302710 (OP)
>lol she's actually his sister
Fuck off man

>>23303174
Why is a creator not allowed to create past a certain date?

ZZ: A New Translation.

>>23303165
aZZ (Onee-san ver.)

>>23302797
He's been coasting off of a handful of manga authors for a while, he'll need to devour a fairly substantial soul to continue further.

>>23303796
He said the theatrical version of Gundam is complete with 0079 I-III -> Z-ANT -> CCA, unfortunately
They would have to change the story around quite a bit, too, considering Haman abandoned Axis at the end of Z-ANT III. I don't think ZZ fans are getting anything anytime soon.

>>23302837
Show me a teenage boy that doesn't want to lick a vagina or four.

>>23304057
Not him but ZZ needs a complete remake, keeping the good ideas but changing it to be in tone with Zeta. Also CCA as much as I love it kinda needs either a redo or two prequel movies for Gundam to be "complete".

>>23302710 (OP)
The old man never gives up, uh?
>>23302837
Yes, and even old men want to lick their vagina, Tomino knows what makes a pussy lickable.

>>23304068
Eh. Zeta's tone has to do with the kind of story Zeta is. It's the tragedy of Kamille Bidan. I don't think there's any reason ZZ should HAVE to be entirely dark as well. I like the happy go lucky Gundam Team dynamic as much as I like the dynamic of the crews of the Argama and the Radish. I also don't really know what people think CCA is lacking. Seeing Char show up at Sweetwater and organize the drop of Fifth Luna would be cool, I suppose, but there's no actual information you're missing in the movie as it is. Char's motives are also explained by both Amuro and himself pretty thoroughly.

>>23304084
I get that you might have fond memories of ZZ but no. It's got great ideas that fall short in every aspect and the fucking tone ruins the show. It nees to take itself more serouisly and provide actual moments of care and reflection instead of the marvel "oh something sad can't stay on this or the audience will be sad, joke, joke, joke". For instance Plu's death is completely glossed over, Plu2 has it even worse. Judau's friends trying to kill him though their stupid actions every episode is retarded and having his sister survive that bullshit after getting shot is even worse. Judau talking to her newtype spirit up in space when everyone thought he was losing it could have been incredibly poinent instead of the half an episode gag it turned out to be.

>>23304068
The best we'll probably ever get is all the manga side stories to ZZ and Moon Gundam. No one is going to touch anything Tomino has worked on until he's well buried in the roof of one of those Japanese roof-top cemeteries.

He's one of those old style elitist creators who will literally bust into the studio, shut down everything and shit down the director's neck if his disagreements with some other creators over U.C. are to be believed.

>>23304102
Eh, to me Zeta spent long enough lingering on death. Season 2, ZZ, is an overcoming of the pessimism of the first season. It transitions thematically into CCA. There's poignance and tragedy enough in Haman and her last stand to make up for a hundred episodes of comedy and a dozen miraculous survivals and happy coincidences.

>>23304102
Absolutely filtered, not everything has to be Zeta gundam.

>>23304109
>No one is going to touch anything Tomino has worked on
GQuuuuuuX

Tomino was right.

>>23304113
>>23304123
>filtered by shit writing
Wow got me there, you're absolutely right, I should accept a fuck ton of plot holes and ooc writing because it's a space robot show for children. Mind blown.

>>23304113
It's not about the freaking themes. A show that has characters changing roles with complete disregard for in-universe logic just isn't good. The whole Glemmy side of the plot is real messy and it all could have been avoided if they just created a new character for his role and kept him a grunt, rather than trying to promote this grunt into a higher and then after a certain point act like he was always a higher up overseeing a long on-going cloning project and rebellious faction.

>>23304378
It's always this shit with Tominofags. Really bizarre shit.

His only good gundam was 0079. the rest was kusoge

>>23304394
You don't know what that word means

>>23304390
It's like this with literally everything. People who like something defend it from people who think it's bad. Wow shocking.

>>23304582
And how do you reconcile people that like something but admit it has flaws that can and should be fixed.

>>23304386
I don’t see what the problem with Glemy is. You can imagine all sorts of behind the scenes shenanigans to explain it. It certainly doesn’t bother me enough to think that a remake is necessary

I am forgotten....

>>23304635
>can and should be fixed
This is the problem, any modern day attempt to “fix” ZZ would be total shit, CGI slop with even worse writing than the original. ZZ is not a bad show, not the best of UC but not awful. I’m not autistic enough to demand a remake in order to fix small continuity issues in a series that isn’t exactly consistent in that regard to begin with.

The only thing ZZ needs is compilation movies, as it's the one series out of the core 3 that would actually benefit from a set.

>>23304394
When are you people going to learn even elementary Japanese?

>>23304792
I like ZZ but It IS absolutely a mess. It would be hard to fuck up the loony tunes writing that is a lot of ZZ so yes I would like someone to try, despite it being "modern day" and if they fuck it up I can go.. whelp the original is there. I personally don't think wanting the potential great parts of ZZ to shine and to bring an important part of the series in tone with the rest of the UC is being autistic, rather if they tried it and it was successful that would be neat.

>>23302710 (OP)
Please don't fuck it up like the last few attempts. A New Translation was already good with how it blends 2000's animation with the 80's stuff, and seeing this potential with ZZ by hopefully removing the CG crap while making a better story and a bit more cynical Dr. Kamille (yes, if we see him running a hospital in Pulitzer, at least there could be a change in when he gets to run one if we follow the changes in the movie). I say, if we don't want to see Sayla, just only remove the asspull stuff, and instead have a more sensible way of saving Leina by having a Ple save her.

>>23302818
g reco deliberately was made to have no relation to gundam.

>>23305044
Why are you so autist about Leina living? Always complaining about it on every related ZZ mention.

>>23305185
NTA, but the way Leina was revealed to be alive was horse shit. And Leina "dying" was intregral to Judau's character growth, him thinking he lost her broke him real hard and that was what got him to really start taking life actually seriously.

>>23305411
Oh and to clarify, i think Leina turning out to be alive was nice. It just's like i said horseshit the way they explained it. And the the real icing on the cake is of all the people to find her it's Sayla.

>>23305049
You didn't watch it. Characters keep bringing up the UC era by name every other episode.

>>23305482
Retard. It's the same thing Tomino did in Gaia Gear. He's always wanted to break the UC free of the Gundam name.

>>23305482
But he wanted G-reco's events and conflicts to be so far detached from the of UC Gundam and even turn A.

>>23305411
>>23305441
Would be perfect if ZZ ANT ends with Leina staying dead. Just go total bummer to make up for ZANT removing its downer ending.

>>23305185
Because he's right. Leina was written to die and having her survive all that from a miracle asspull is just bad.

>>23305044
Why the fuck would Kamille be a doctor a couple of months after dropping out of high school

>>23305658
Imagine asking this for a show always making a habit of putting civilian teenagers in prime spots to steal state of the art, military grade vehicles.

>>23305489
He wanted that with F91 and Victory but they are still gundam

>>23304068
>Not him but ZZ needs a complete remake, keeping the good ideas but changing it to be in tone with Zeta. Also CCA as much as I love it kinda needs either a redo or two prequel movies for Gundam to be "complete".

Tomino was asked about redoing ZZ after the Zeta Gundam movies came out. Tomino bluntly said no. That he has zero interest in revisiting ZZ or those characters. He was pretty dismissive of the question.

Same answer to revisiting F91 as well.

>>23302721
G-Reco was good though.

>>23302759
>Wings of Rean pt 2

>>23304084
>>23304068
>>23303796
>>23304102
For ZZ, Tomino said he wanted to make a happy show filled with comedy. Especially after how dark Zeta Gundam was. That's why ZZ is filled with gags and the tone is not serious and extremely comedic.

However, Tomino said he didn't expect such a backlash from the Japanese viewers. Sunrise actually received numerous hand written complaint letters during ZZ Gundam airing. The Japanese viewers were not happy with ZZ Gundam. Complaints about the tone and writing were mentioned a lot. After reading the letters, Tomino acknowledges he may have went too far with ZZ Gundam's tonal shift. He said he was just trying to make people laugh.

>>23305756
Source?

>>23305411
>>23305653
ZZ problems are much bigger than Leina surviving or not.

>>23302730
He's only 83. He's Japanese so he could definitely live into his 90s.

>>23305756
Being that Zeta was such a ride when binged it. I can only imagine how jarring it must have been back then. I think if he had named ZZ something else entirely and made it not happen like directly after the end of Zeta, it would have been accepted as is better.

>>23305756
Sad. Like Lucas and the Prequels. People just weren't willing to give new ideas a chance.

>>23302710 (OP)
Anons you need to stop talking about ZZ Gundam or any other Gundam.

I think we all know there is only ONE Gundam story that would be perfect for Tomino to end his career on. After HF, We finally can admit we the technology to animate the huge mecha in Beltorchika's Children properly. We can finally see Nightingale in fully animated glory. No more animators saying it's impossible and the mecha designs are too complicated.

Admit it. This would be a perfect end to his career. Redoing CCA with all the crazy big mecha designs and extra stories that Tomino originally wanted.

Bonus points to Tomino if he replaces Beltorchika with Sayla. That would be amazing. It's what he wanted originally anyway.

>>23305781
>replace beltorchika
NO

>>23305787
Sayla is better. Admit it.

>>23305766
It was Bandai, not Tomino's decision. He's fucking lying.

https://www.gundamunofficial.com/production/gundamzz.html
>Here, Katsumi Kawaguchi of the Bandai Hobby Products Department recalls:

>Nowadays, Mobile Suit Z Gundam is highly regarded as a work, and the merchandise is also popular. But during the broadcast, we started seeing a merchandising decline around autumn. Nonetheless, it had been decided that Z Gundam would run for four cours, and to Bandai the Gundam brand was too valuable to abandon. So we told the Sunrise side, "We want you to do another sequel and continue the Gundam title." At that point we began discussing what we should do after Z Gundam was over. From then on, there was also talk within the company that "the story of Z Gundam is too difficult" and "the story is too dark." Based on those opinions, we talked with Sunrise about how we should proceed in the next year after Z Gundam.

>Thanks to the success of the movies, Gundam had already transformed into a character that even children recognized. In that respect, our expectations may have been too optimistic. As a result, with Z Gundam we began to see a decline in a brand that had previously boasted steadfast popularity, and there was confusion within the company, as people said "It wasn't supposed to be like this." Thus there was talk that, to some extent, the upcoming new Gundam also had to consider children as part of the target demographic. So we said to Gundam's producer, Mr. (Kenji) Uchida, "How about a light Gundam that will be easier for kids to understand?"

>With the formal approval of the project in November 1985 came a new mantra: "A light Gundam, an enjoyable Gundam, a Gundam for everyone," as Tomino phrased it in a B-Club interview. The idea of making the new series lighter and more accessible, while bringing back popular elements of the original Mobile Suit Gundam that Z Gundam had discarded, would drive many of the creative decisions as the production continued.

>>23305796
Honestly the biggest problem was making it a direct sequel to Zeta more than anything.

>>23305793
False. FALSE! She's not even #1 in the original series!
Beltorchika is EXACTLY the girl Amuro needed in Zeta. The girl who looked at him not as a killing machine, but as a man. The first thing she says to him is that she likes the smell of the soap he's using. Just normal, flirty chatter. No destiny, no history. Just a man and a woman. The perfect girl for him to start a family with.

>>23305756
Not his fault. I doubt he expected Zeta to become such a cultural touchstone in the Japanese nerdom of the 80s (or its persistent relevance to a multi generational franchise).

>>23305796
I mean we've seen Tomino mention it himself. So 2 things can be true at the same time. Bandai thought Zeta was too dark and Tomino wanted to do a more light hearted show.

>>23305818
Eh, I take more offense with the idea that Tomino came up with it himself when it was clearly a decision driven by Bandai corporates. That said, a more positive tone is clearly something that Tomino was willing to steer the franchise toward, and I do recognize that Tomino himself went along with the decision, hence I intentionally left in the quote:

>With the formal approval of the project in November 1985 came a new mantra: "A light Gundam, an enjoyable Gundam, a Gundam for everyone," as Tomino phrased it in a B-Club interview.

The modern era cannot handle Haman Karn.

>>23302710 (OP)
Turn B?

>>23305796
I read through all the production notes that are sourced in that site and the impression I have is that Tomino actually liked and pushed Gundam forward. Only when F91 failed he thought Gundam was over, and then when V was ordered and Bandai meddled with it too much he felt burned out and called quits.

>>23305840
>Only when F91
F91 didnt fail though. It is the Turning point to Tomino's feeling on Gundam though. I think he started getting burnt out after how hard he had to fight to actually get to do CCA.

>>23305861
In his eyes it did. After all the will it be a TV or movie debate, it was made as a prelude for a bigger show but it didn't got enough interest for a sequel to get greenlighted. It also seems he came back for V hopeful but he didn't know yet that Bandai acquired Sunrise and that's when got fed up with the producers. It's all documented there.

>>23305874
No doubt he was definetly tired of Bamdai's meddling.

>>23302710 (OP)
>[Good news]
>[Sad news]
Why do the mods allow bots to post this shit all over 4chins?

>>23305776
He is the same age of Miyazaki and that fucker already threatened with retirement two times.

>>23305781
>Admit it. This would be a perfect end to his career. Redoing CCA with all the crazy big mecha designs and extra stories that Tomino originally wanted.
Tomino doesn't care about the mechas. Also he already said that he doesn't have anything more to said about Amuro and Char.

>>23305806
Mirai isn't that stacked. Shit fanart.

>>23305995
Pregnancy buff.

>>23305769
And? It's still clearly one of many problems.
>>23305780
Fuck off, you're a prime example. The prequels are full of "good ideas" hampered by shit writing.

>>23305990
That's what everyone thought about Zeta. Then BAM. Zeta movies.

>>23302710 (OP)
Bandai just please let him cook, like no holds bar let him be as brutal as he wants to be. No goody two shoes happy ending. 50 fucking episodes.

>>23305756
Because everyone who came from watching Zeta, wanted a continuation to see Kamille, Fa and the rest of the crew instead of being sidelined as side characters. He could have done it with like 12 episodes dedicated to Kamille and Fa then they retire rather than have them reappear again at like episode 30.

>>23306243
>and the rest of the crew
I mean most of them died in Zeta. Kamille and Fa retire for obvious reasons, Saegusa dies in episode two and the rest of the living crew like Bright, Torres and Astonaige do go on to be part of the rest to the show. Were you expecting ZZ to start with Emma being resurrected or something?

>>23306249
Emma truly was the soul of the Argama....it's not fair she could have been rushed back to the ship bros....

>>23306249
How is that possible when AEUG is shown to have a large fleet at the end of ZZ? Either the AEUG was destroyed or it wasn't. Pick a lane and stick with it.

>>23306256
>large fleet at the end of ZZ?
That was the federations fleet, the AEUG got absorbed into the federation. It was either that or take full responsibility for colluding with Haman because they were the ones who brought her Zeon into Gryps war first.

>>23306256
The AEUG is shown to be rebuilding their forces in late ZZ and when they finally have new trainee pilots they immediately try to replace the Argama's crew with them, the only reason AEUG bigwigs like Wong and Madchar were allowing a bunch of random kids to pilot their mobile suits was because they had literally no one else.

>>23306261
If the AEUG is bigger than the Federation military at this point then why bother joining the Federation?

>>23306285
It isn't.

>>23302818
The title is called Reconguista of G. None of the mobile suits are called gundam in universe, only in the hg boxart.
In fact, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a gundam when the concept art leaked, it's probably turned into one for marketing purposes.

>>23306286
The clearly were during ZZ

>>23302710 (OP)
Make it happen Tomino.

It's still possible since the Amuro and Char voice actors are still around.

>>23305990
>Also he already said that he doesn't have anything more to said about Amuro and Char.
CCA was a sad ending.
BC is a happier ending because at least Amuro leaves behind a kid.

Who knows. Maybe Nanai is pregnant and Char leaves behind a kid too.

>>23306058
>prequels
>shit writing
Nah. They're the best Star Wars movies. Most of the dialog-related things people complain about are just references to old movies, serials and novels when you look into them.

>>23305482
read the thread before spouting bullshit. we are not talking about your opinion.

I’m guessing Himiko Yamato got canned if Tomino is talking about making a new Gundam again…

>>23306358
>It's still possible since the Amuro and Char voice actors are still around
Bro TMS won’t even let Furuya voice a character named after him anymore. The most /m/ related job he can get now is flipping burgers at Billy the Kid’s. Ikeda on the other hand I can still see voicing an older Char, even if his younger self has a new seiyuu

>>23305781
BC is unironically worse than CCA (it's better than Hi-Streamer) and I have a sneaking suspicion most people only hold it in higher regard because A) they haven't read it and B) it's "tomino's vision"
the tradeoff is that HS and BC have awesome MS designs

>>23302710 (OP)
Tomino producing a new Gundam series doesn't necessarily mean it has to be UC. i wanna see his take on an AU Gundam.

>>23306332
If you're retarded and making shit up, sure.

>>23307202
The EF military was splintered and nearly destroyed during the Gryps conflict. They spent most of ZZ rebuilding their forces. The AEUG and Karaba were more powerful in terms of manpower and ship numbers during the first half of ZZ.

If you refuse to believe it, then there's no helping you. Stop replying and wasting everyone's time over a pointless argument you refuse to have in good faith.

>>23307897
The AEUG has one ship in ZZ. The Argama, which is then given the Karaba and replaced with the Nahel Argama. Where are their other ships during ZZ?

>>23307901
He's somehow missing the part where the AEUG got absorbed into the federation.

>>23306810
The main point of doing AUs is restarting things from zero, and I don't think Tomino has interest in doing that considering how he has talked about unoriginal Gundam works.

Now, of course, you also have AUs like IBO and X that start with a large in-setting backstory already, but that's essentially what Tomino has done with Turn-A and G-Reco, he just slaps the "UC" name on that and throws in some cameos, but the actual relevant backstory in both of those shows was fully original and nothing ever depicted in any of the UC series.

>>23306809
As if CCA does not have its own great mechs. If anybody prefers Hi Nu over Nu they are a soulless bug in my eyes.

>>23306327
Only with extremely creative interpretation of the words "not a Gundam", it was only presented without the Gundam name because Bandai was not involved yet. The show's name is "Gundam Reconguista in G" and at this point it is only 2nd of 3 series that never actually call Gundams by their full box art name.

>>23307910
>>23307901
Watch the end of Zeta you fools. The AEUG still has numerous Salamis class ships at the end of the anime as they fly away back to base with the Argama. They still have an intact fleet.

This is why speed watchers like you don't belong in discussion threads. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>23305049
>>23305488
Why did he put a G in the title then? Everyone would assume it's related to Gundam.

>>23308125
G stands for genki.

>>23302747
Do you think Bandai would let him make something without the Gundam name attached to it?

>>23308299
you mean now or ever?

>>23308306
Now especially but it's been a specter that's been just over his shoulder since it was supposed to end with the original series... and then CCA... and then Turn A.

>>23302710 (OP)
Someone showed him GQuuuuuux and asked if that is what he wanted from the franchise

>>23308125
>Why did he put a G in the title then?
It stands for "God, I wanna put a couple of babies inside Raraiya/Aida/Chickara/Nug"

>>23308120
Watch ZZ, hypocrite. It's the second season of Zeta, they're the same fucking show.

>>23308582

I think he'll merge with Anno in a final Newtype Instrumentality Phenomenon and continue to create quality mecha for decades to come. This will be the true Kira Kira.

Also there's nothing hotter than Artesia isn a sleeveless uniform.

>>23302710 (OP)
Tomino will take over the Live Action Gundam movie as the new Director. Especially since Tomino got the previous Director fired for disrespecting him.

>>23308920
A small part of me hopes this happens

>>23308921
Tomino did say his one regret in his professional life was never being given the chance to Direct a live action movie.

Bare minimum, the movie will at least be brutal and not shy away from war. The last fired director was trying to push some weird love story. Tomino won't do that at least.

>>23308924
>The last fired director was trying to push some weird love story

Was this before or after he heard Gquuuuuux? Cause I can imagine didnt think he'd hear an even dumber love story unfold.

>>23306242
>Bandai just please let him cook, like no holds bar let him be as brutal as he wants to be. No goody two shoes happy ending
Tomino has been the goody two shoes happy ending guy since he got over his depression and came back to do turn a.

>>23306242
How old are you, 12?

>>23307925
>>23306810
Actually I'm curious. Does Tomino have a take on AU gundams or even some of the UC side story OVAs? Has he ever talked about his opinion on them in interviews? I wonder if he watches Gundam.

>>23302890
That's exactly why it should happen. Hes so out of touch with today's formulaic trend chasing animes that it would be a breathe of fresh air regardless if its good or bad

>>23306358
>>23305781
I do not think this will happen because they already have model kits. It's the same reason why Crossbone will never get an anime adaptation. Intuitively, their business model is to profit off their anime production with merchandising sales. But they're already moving product for those stories.

>>23308967
Ah anon. But you are forgetting how cheap and money hungry Bandai is. They will make "Nightingale Ver. Movie" and it will only have slight differences compared to the previous model. That way they can recycle the molds. Then Bandai will throw in some custom exclusive weapon that only appears in the movie during a cool scene.

BAM! Now it's a brand new Nightingale model.

>>23308962
He's never watched one fully and has gone on record saying he hates when they just retread his own works, Gquuux would probably kill him

>>23308982
>Gquuux would probably kill him
kek I hope he watches it so we can see him eviscerate it in an interview

Somehow I feel like Tomino wouldn't hate GQuuuuuuX. It's obviously not his ideal, and the show isn't even over, but I have a feeling it will end well and he'll be happy with the ending.
It's just a feeling.

>>23308962
>Actually I'm curious. Does Tomino have a take on AU gundams or even some of the UC side story OVAs? Has he ever talked about his opinion on them in interviews? I wonder if he watches Gundam.

When asked about UC stories and OVAs, Tomino said that all UC Gundam stories that he was not directly involved in creating are simply "borrowing" his Gundam title. He does not personally consider them part of the Gundam universe in his mind.


Tomino has praised both G Gundam and Wing Gundam for being completely unique and using brand new Gundam stories. .

He did not like Gundam Unicorn or Gundam Narrative. He scolded writer Fukui for retreading his old work works and ideas.

He said Hathaway's Flash looks cinematic and has good animation quality. But he feels the story is too dark, depressing, and has nothing to do with modern politics. So he very surprised Bandai wanted to animate it.

After Fukuda (Director of Gundam Seed) met with Tomino to discuss his upcoming Gundam seed anime, he told Tomino all about it. Tomino generally gave his blessing to Gundam Seed. He told Fukuda to stand up for himself, and not to let Bandai push him around. That Fukuda needs to the story he wants to tell without interference from Bandai and others.

Tomino recently watched the Gundam Seed Freedom Movie with Fukuda, and praised it a lot.

Tomino is not a fan of any anime that "trivializes war and combat" or turns them into games. Specifically mentioning things like Kan Colle (cute boat anime) and Girls Und Panzer (cute tank anime) as examples of things he dislikes. He says war is not supposed to be cool or cute. It deludes people's minds. He hasn't commented directly, but that probably means Tomino would hate Gunpla Build Divers or Build Fighters. It turns war into games.

Tomino hates when Gundam stories recreate what he's already done. So he would despise Gquux if I had to guess. They are just redoing Mobile Suit Gundam but with added cute girls.

>>23309037
Interesting, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the write-up anon.

>>23309037
>They are just redoing Mobile Suit Gundam but with added cute girls.
Anno, in his ultimate troll, creates an all-unlickable Universal Century

>>23309101
lel

>>23309037
Huh Tomino seems to like how Fukuda works

>>23309037
>but that probably means Tomino would hate Gunpla Build Divers or Build Fighters. It turns war into games.
But that would make no sense, after he praised G Gundam, which made gundam fight's a literal sport and majority of build series is glamorizing not war, but hobby of building gunpla.

>>23309884
It makes sense. For all the flashiness, SEED tries its hardest to depict how unappealing war is and show ordinary people having their lives destroyed by it.

>>23309912
It's always funny when people try to ahit on SeeD by saying UC was more brutal then you tell them about the time Athrun threw a whole as gundam size shield at a jet and it shredded down threw the middle of the cockpit.

>>23309925
>SeeD
I don't think I've ever seen people shit on the mercenary force from Final Fantasy VIII by calling Gundam more brutal.

>>23308299
Are you sincerely so retarded as to not even know the show G-Reco is stylistically evolved from.

>>23309037
>But he feels the story is too dark, depressing, and has nothing to do with modern politics. So he very surprised Bandai wanted to animate it.
I thought he had said that it was more relevant than ever today?

>>23309901
G Gundam isn't a game. Unlike Gunpla fighters, there are real consequences to the Gundam fight. The Earth is treated as a battlefield, environments are destroyed, and people living on earth will suffer. Plus the pilots can still die, and the pilot's home Colony will suffer losses.

>>23309901
And why are they doing the Gundam Fights, anon

>>23309979
Not that anon but I'm pretty sure that's the exact opposite of what Tomino said. You probably read a mistranslation.

>>23309037
>He did not like Gundam Unicorn or Gundam Narrative. He scolded writer Fukui for retreading his old work works and ideas.
Based...

>>23309991
That's still trivalizing war the fact that it's treated like the fucking olympics that still has rules regulations a literal tournament tournament schedule, and fucking sponsor ship coverage. Compare that to build where yeah's battles and shit, but the majority of it highlighting people getting into the hobby of building Gunpla and enjoying the brand as fans, i fail to see how how he would take any actual offense to that messaging other than it's giving Bandai money.

>>23310001

>>23310011
Tomino gave several interviews where he mentioned Hathaway and his thoughts about it being an anime. He did mention about Hathaway's cold war politics not being related to modern politics. Now with this additional interview you quoted, I'm wondering if Tomino is insulting us as a society by saying we've regressed backwards 30 years.

>>23310020
He people means we regressed back to having interest into more political dialogue being inserted back into gundam shows.

>>23310025
>He people means
Propably means.

>>23310028
I thought it was just "Trump deporting people and that's bad"

>>23310025
Actually Tomino said in another interview that he's disappointed in modern humanity and we've regressed back 40 or 50 years. And that people haven't learned a thing from his works about how bad war really is. So yeah he is insulting us.

>>23310048
That's Bandai's fault.

>>23310048
Tomino's a fool for thinking his works would have an impact anywhere but Japan, a country that doesn't get involved in wars anymore.

>>23302710 (OP)
THE WORLD ISN’T SQUARE!

>>23309901
Gundam fights isnt war wtf? They're literally prize fights with volunteer pilots and fought with rules and regulations. Theres no terror bombings, occupation, or conscription. Its like the fucking opposite of war.

>>23310025
How is that regression? Doesn't he want more people to talk about the political intrigue instead of the shows instead of only caring how cool the kits are and how cool the series let's the suits go all out in the battlefield?

>>23305781
But the hi nu is stinky

>>23314108
Yes, that what G gundam is, the Fucking Olympics, there's a narrative about them destroying the plan and all that. But because they happen like every 4 years, there's not enough time to rebuild the earth, when they just gonna hold another tournament in 4years, that that was why Doman's dad was making the Devil Gundam. It's purpose before it went berserk was to help regenerate the planet, and it was called the Ultimate gundam.

>>23310048
Am I wrong to think Tomino just says a lot of contradictory shit cause he's a bit of an attention whore?

>>23314129
No that a possibility too.

>>23302710 (OP)

Tomino is really good at making full names you want to say out loud, L-Gaim was full of that shit.

>>23304084
The tragedy of Zeta is Fa is out here practically begging for Kamille to stick his autistic dick in her. Always flashing her panties in that miniskirt, making certain she’s always in front of him on that weird wall walkway so he has to stare at her ass when she leans forward.
Yet Kamille still chooses Four because he is a giant retard.

>>23314134
>The V in V-Gundam stands for Vagina actually
I'll miss this horny old man when he'll retire from existence

>>23304274
Tomino IS right.

>>23314129
Rather than that, I think he just can't keep up with the times, despite being full of himself.
The world itself contradicts him, so he's forced to change his tune.

>>23314158
Four and him were in that same crazy, fucked up world of new type child soldiers. He was all sorts of emotionally unbalanced and she understood him on that level when Fa just couldn't.

>>23309037
So Tomino doesn't like things that are too depressing but wants Gundam to show how awful war can be and not to trivialize it.
That seems really hard to please. How can he want something that isnt too dark and depressing but also expect something to be like All Quiet On The Western Front or Pic related?

>>23314851
>So Tomino doesn't like things that are too depressing
No. Tomino said he's personally too old to direct depressing anime anymore. Not that other younger people still can't do it. It's one of the reasons Tomino turned down directing Hathaway's Flash. He said it was too dark and depressing, and at this point in his life he wants to focus on making more uplifting stories.

Hathaway's ending is just sad and depressing.

>>23303796
I'd honestly like to see him make a happier ending to earlier UC following the kamille didn't get mindbroken butterfly effect. However, I see no way that happens.

>>23308962
Tomino has stated that he has no intention of becoming a 'scholar' of the Universal Century

>>23314862
Old people are the most pessimistic you'd think they'd be the ones to be directing depressing pieces

>>23302710 (OP)
He's too old and clearly washed from what we've seen in greco. People respect him too much to challenge or fix anything bad he would do.

>>23302710 (OP)
He saw how shit gwitch and gquax are and decided that he has to rescue his franchise.

>>23315061
He doesn't watch au trash

>>23304781
I like it, i would not be surprised if we see more alternate timeline stuff, or even a continuation of this universe. Mobile suits are cool and the animation is good.

>>23314916
G-Reco was fine it was more coherent than some of his older stuff

>>23315295
Such as? I'm doing a greco rewatch right now and its still garbage as I remembered it.

>>23302747
Tomino is forever cucked by Bandai to never make an original work again, every thing he makes will have the Gundam label slapped onto it.

Why are Tomino's novels not available in ebook or audio book? I'd buy the hell out of them.

>>23315366
Maybe you just don't like it? Is everything you like good and everything you dislike bad?

>>23315737
It's irrelevant if I like it. It's objectively bad.

>>23315892
Do you want to get more specific?

>>23315894
Sure? It's writing is a mess.

>>23315903
nta, that's not specific at all lol

>>23315916
I would have to write an essay if I were to get into every specific thing that was poorly written in greco. Most can acknowledge it's very flawed and greco fans always have to convince themselves it was good.

>>23309037

I'm only ro episode 4 of Unicorn but I think this guy is telling an interesting story. The main kid isn't very original but the supporting cast have interesting history.

>>23302710 (OP)
the more senile he gets the better his scripts are

>>23317168
>I'm only ro episode 4 of Unicorn but I think this guy is telling an interesting story.
Keep watching, you'll understand exactly why Unicorn gets shat on.

>>23318699

WTF this Byarlant Custom pilot is owning Zeeks right and left and they don't even show him. Had to go on the wiki to find out he's a character in the sidestory manga.

>>23318755
Don't bother. The Byarlant doesn't exist in the original Unicorn novel. It's something they made up for the anime.

In original novel, the Zeon attack is lead by the Red Mobile Armor Shamblo and Zeon remnants. The Zeon attack is much more successful.

The Federation counterattack is lead by the Jesta Team, Unicorn gundam, and random Federation suits stationed at Torrington.

>>23318881

Was that just Amuro Angel in episode 5? I thought only khara were obsessed with this phenomenon.

>>23319028
No this shit started with Fukui. Unicorn would have been absolutely great if not for this shit. It'll get worse towards yhe end, keep watching.

>>23315918
The writing is amazing
Leagues better than anything else in not only modern anime, but also in western tv and movies
You are filtered

>>23319108

Wow, what a strange way to end an OAV. Not just the spirit and psychic time travel stuff either

>>23306781
He voiced Amuro A.I at an event on april so i wouldn't be so sure about that statement.

>>23302721
You misunderstand him. He loves women. He's a old school sexist. He's not a betafag new age sexist we see nowadays.

>>23319208
Not him, the idea of having the audience decide themselves on the truth after discovering it with the main characters is a novel idea but the everything is told to the audience isn't and hurts both the pace and the structural integrity of the actual story being told. Also the
>guys I know we're fighting in gaint war weapons that could kill with one small mistake but seriously that last attack almost hurt me
Got seriously old. Both the original, zeta and even fucking zz handles it better.

>>23319208
Tomino himself apologized for making it too hard to follow and doubled back to correct it with the films
Why the fuck do you people still argue that it's a flawless masterpiece if even the creator doesn't see it that way

>>23321207
Said creator has never liked anything he made.

>>23320665
Furuya seems LOVE playing Amuro. More so than any of his other iconic roles like Seiya. I really like how he never seemed to loss the enthusiasm to play the role.

Has Tomino ever given his thoughts on Dragonar?

>>23322168
He said it's shit.

>>23321252
Tomino said in one of his books that he was happy with and liked Xabungle and Turn A

>>23323108
I can still find him saying he shouldn't have let them make the Turn A Gundam look so weird, he's always going to be critical in hindsight.

>>23320665
No, he didn't. He's not credited for it. It's LITERAL ai usage of his voice

Mobile Overman King Gundam

>>23302780
Gaia Gear kind of sucks though...

>>23306781
Bandai so far still seems to be using Furuya everywhere with no sign of stopping. It's kind bizarre considering how he has become a pariah to anime studios (like getting immediately replaced for a cameo appeared in Daima, but still voicing Yamcha in all games).

>>23325360
The radio drama for sure. Novel is peak.

>>23325364
You do know that a lot of his voice work was recorded YEARS before that affair/abortion shit came to light, right?

>>23303796
No...

>>23325951
>You do know that a lot of his voice work was recorded YEARS before that affair/abortion shit came to light, right?

Furuya is literally recording Amuro lines and brand new dialog for recent UC Engage video games and cut scenes. Face it. No one cares about his affair anymore. It done and over. Stop trying to make this a thing. Your argument doesn't work.

>>23302710 (OP)

>>23326142
I wonder what she's laughing at??

>>23326112
When the Amuro cut scenes first showed up in the game, those were recorded TWO YEARS PRIOR to their debut, so no, he's not fucking recording new lines. They're still using stuff that was done before the affair came to light.

He's already stepped down from EVERYTHING, so no, they're not keeping him in an active fucking role you idiotic douche canoe.

>>23325972
Man, Kazuki really looks so bad.

>>23326165
>When the Amuro cut scenes first showed up in the game, those were recorded TWO YEARS PRIOR
Prove it

>>23326165
>More bullsh1t you keep making up. Toru Furuya is the voice actor for recent Dragon Ball, Baki, Fluffy Paradise, and a bunch of other anime tied to Bandai. Admit your wrong and leave this thread in disgrace.

>>23326148
Bell-kun cumming inside his own blood sister

>>23326316
He WAS replaced in Dragonball, even though adult Yamcha only showed up with lines in one Daima episode, they still replaced him.

That said, Bandai is still using him in games, while usually you'd push to make the voice actors consistent in multimedia stuff like this really quickly, so it really doesn't seem like Bandai cares unlike the anime studios.

>Fluffy Paradise
>Baki

This anime is from 2024 itself, they probably had it all recorded already before the situation. Baki is even older.

>>23315144
He doesn't care about AUs like G-Witch, but it became personal when he heard about Khara reusing Beyond The Time and the classic RX-78

>In a recent interview on the Japanese television network NHK, Tomino stated that he would like to work on a future project in the anime universe. While not going into detail regarding what this would be, Yoshiyuki did state that he wants to use real world conflicts as a springboard, “The war in Ukraine has been going on for three years now and the conflict in Israel for 30 to 40 years. I don’t think we understand these things very well. So, the theme is whether humanity can stop this social behavior.” During the talk, Tomino also critiqued some of the current series that are holding the title of Gundam.
>Tomino took the opportunity to state that while the mechs themselves are cool, they are hardly the main focus he was trying to convey when the franchise first arrived, “When you say ‘I like Gundam,’ the words that come up are, of course, ‘mobile suit battles are cool.’ That is not the point. At all. My younger colleagues are making Gundam series today, and I don’t feel a sense of experience with war.” Yoshiyuki also wondered if it were possible for a new generation to truly capture his original mind set, since so many are quite separated from war.

>>23333869
>The war in Ukraine has been going on for three years now and the conflict in Israel for 30 to 40 years. I don’t think we understand these things very well.
Yep, I'm thinking that Tomino never really understood politics.

>>23314851
Storm of Steel by Ernst Jünger
A perfect balance between its themes.

>>23305796
It was probably a good decision, since some of the best Gundam ever made came from ZZ's first half.
Sucks that they eventually welched, though, and we got ZZ's shitty last third:
>In my previous interview (in the August issue of this magazine), I said that I'd like to keep on making ZZ like ZZ, and that I wanted to go all the way to the end with that same atmosphere. But the current ZZ, especially from August onwards, has become fairly serious, with an atmosphere close to the previous Z. If you ask me why, I didn't do it with any particular aim. Simply put, due to various factors, we wouldn't have been able to continue broadcasting ZZ as it was.
>Nonetheless, I still wanted to try making a "light Gundam." For example, fans say that even though the first Gundam was really serious, there were also a lot of light and enjoyable parts. But at that time, in that era, anime itself was still something light and enjoyable. So, to match the era of seven or eight years ago, I created a work in which serious and light parts coexisted. But since Gundam, works that emphasized only the serious side have proliferated, and the original fun of anime has been lost. I think everyone must have forgotten how to make anime.
>I sensed that impending crisis and, as I've said before, when it was decided that we could make a sequel to Z, I resolved "Let's make ZZ lighter! Even if it's outside the mainstream of the era, let's make a light Gundam!" I thought that methodology itself might be epoch-making, both for the viewers and for people in the anime industry.
>That methodology, as I mentioned earlier, was rejected in the middle of the broadcast. But even though they'd been rejected, Judau and the rest of the Shangri-La gang remained light characters as originally planned. So even amid the current serious story, they still seem full of life.

>>23334028
>It was probably a good decision, since some of the best Gundam ever made came from ZZ's first half.
Sucks that they eventually welched, though, and we got ZZ's shitty last third:

Maybe you should actually post later interviews where Tomino admits he may have actually went too far with ZZ. And that Sunrise actually received written complaint mail from Japanese viewers of ZZ telling them they didn't like the first half of ZZ. Which surprised Tomino at first, but later admits they have a point.

>>23334028
>It was probably a good decision, since some of the best Gundam ever made came from ZZ's first half.Sucks that they eventually welched, though, and we got ZZ's shitty last third:

Maybe you should actually post later interviews where Tomino admits he may have actually went too far with ZZ. And that Sunrise actually received written complaint mail from Japanese viewers of ZZ telling them they didn't like the first half of ZZ. Which surprised Tomino at first, but later admits they have a point.

>>23334138
>>23334139
>It's already been on the air for more than one cours, which should have been enough time for both the staff and the viewers to grasp the atmosphere and pacing of the work... but in fact, I'm a little confused. As far as I can see from the letters I'm receiving, the people in the audience are showing a rejection of the work called Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ. In short, it seems the people who are expressing their feelings via letters and so forth would prefer something dark and difficult like the previous Z Gundam.
You're talking about this, I'm assuming. I don't see any part where Tomino admits he was mistaken. And if he was, then he's wrong because the last third of ZZ is crap that drags the whole show down.

Also:
>But as far as I'm concerned, even if the Elpeo Ple character shows up and acts out the drama of a meeting between fellow Newtypes with Judau, it certainly won't follow the same pattern as the two previous works. I want to show it with ZZ's unique storytelling.
>proceed to allow Puru Two to exist and go through the exact same beats as Four, Sarah and Rosamia with no alteration

>>23334139
>>23334324
Tomino tends to spread his ideas out over numerous interviews over decades. He makes a comment in the 1980s, and then says something else 20 years later. If you want to research Tomino's thoughts then you need to research multiple interviews. from the 1980s to today.

>>23334324

Tomino was depressed and overworked by the time of ZZ.

He made some comments about not being ready to immediately make a sequel to Zeta Gundam right away but Bandai greenlit one immediately.

Other interviews Tomino talks about how the late 80s was dark time for him. He was tired and not being able to explore other ideas for other non-gundam anime. I think Tomino once called it the Gundam curse. He tried to write novels to explore ideas that Bandai wouldn't let him do in Gundam.

By the end of CCA, Tomino was creatively and mentally exhausted. No wonder F91 and Victory were half baked and trashy. Dude needed a vacation for a few years.

Imagine Director Christopher Nolan being only allowed to make Batman movies for 20 years. The guy would go nuts.

>>23334353
>Tomino was depressed and overworked by the time of ZZ.
Tomino wasn't writing ZZ full time, he had left that job to Endo.
And stop using that as an excuse. Tomino's natural state pre-Turn A was an omnicidal psychopath who believed the entire human race should be annihilated to ensure ascension into the starmind. Scirocco was literally his self-insert.

>>23334353
>Gigi didn’t need the delivery lady to remind her how difficult it was to be alone, yet she knew how to cope with it. One could say that the vast majority of people’s lives require 365 days of patient endurance for one actual day of enjoyment.
>At the same time, it’s also true that one perfect day can get a person through a grueling year. Even if you can find some semblance of success in society, the time you spend in the limelight is a one-time affair.
>Even if you’re lucky enough for it to last a few days, it’ll cost you several years of thankless, solitary work in exchange. It also goes without saying that this moment of glory is the result of some less-than-honorable deeds.
>That’s just how life is.
This reads like a cry for help from Tomino.
Thank god Turn A healed his soul.

>>23334464
You really don't know Tomino at all.

A Gundam series about a country in off and on again wars like Israel might be interesting.
Ukraine getting invaded by Russia is Valkryia Chronicles.

>>23302721
the older i get the more apparent it becomes that tomino-san is right about women.

>>23305995
tru but she's still comely af. perfect tradwife material.

>>23305776
Young enough to be US President DESU.

>>23334676
>A Gundam series about a country in off and on again wars like Israel
That is every UC Gundam after the first, they aren't even really subtle about the religious parts.

>>23334506
And you do? Are you friends with him?

>>23334676
>>23334810
Isn't there some early pre-production plot outline for Zeta where they reveal that the entire Gryps conflict is a zionist conspiracy? And somehow it all culminates in the jews returning to Israel (again) and killing all the people who currently live there (again) under the justification that they're probably descended from the people who kicked the jews out of israel (again) last time?

>>23334860
No. You are thinking that the production notes had the Big CEO of Anaheim being a Zionist and one of the behind the scenes political big bads of zeta to CCA era once his company got the know how to make mobile suits. But he was never going to be directly involved with the plot.
Btw the other behind scenes big bad people are the guys from Jupiter since they are essentially the new oil barons.

>>23334821
If read more than one interview from Tomino you would know your original statement is wrong.

Anno > tomino
GQuuuuuuX is loving by all, G-Reco is loving by nobody

>>23302890
Tomino lost his touch in F91. Arguably CCA.
>>23303149
Nah Zeta was bad due to people other than Tomino.

>>23335177
>loving by
ESL

>>23314158
nah childhood girlfriends are boring and should never win, like in MSG and ZZ. Anybody with IRL experience in women would pick Sayla and Roux over obnoxious nags like Fraw and Fa, or doubleplaying thots like Elle.

>>23335134
If you watched Ideon you'd know he sincerely wants to exterminate humanity.

>>23335522
I would pick Fa. I want a woman who wouldn't abandon me even if I turned into a vegetable.

>>23302710 (OP)
Is this the one akiman was talking about? those two have been hanging out on a weekly basis for some project

>>23335865
Source?

King Gainer 2