Thread 23314463

Who will win Machu's heart?

Kou Uraki is still in the race.

>>23314463 (OP)
Machu will learn that true love comes from machines.

Late kamille surge incoming. She's only a year older than him.

>>23314463 (OP)
What is Flit doing in Alt-UC?

>>23314463 (OP)
Conch.

>>23314476
>Amate Yuzuriha was a woman who could have been like a sister to me
Memes aside, if Fa was going to get cucked by anyone in GQuuuuX it would have been Deux

>>23314542
>>23314534
Kamille's counter attack
>End scene kamille goes on a 5 minute tangent listing several dead women who could have been family to him including people he never met
>ends list with Jerid Mesa could have been a mother to me

I haven't been watching the show, but why is mid-life crisis Flit in the image?

Why did Challia give up the Rose of Sharon off screen?
Why didn't Machu connect the dots once she saw it inside the new doomsday weapon and get upset that Challia literally enabled Zeon to use it?
She should be extremely skeptical and suspicious of Challia now.

>>23314567
For some reason Challia Bull has a totally rehauled design in this even though most character's design changes of returning characters are mostly just subtle ones resulting from a different artist illustrating them.
Challia looks like a different dude though.

>>23314568
>Why did Challia give up the Rose of Sharon off screen?
Because he was acting as a soldier for Kycillia, it wasn't time to act yer. He himself admits he miscalculated and should've acted sooner
>Why isn't Machu mad at Challia
She is, she's not going there to help him

>>23314572
To be fair, most people watching probably don't even remember Challia Bull. He's not nearly as well known as most of the others and was even cut from the MSG movies if I remember right.

>>23314582
Shut the fuck up tourist.

This is so dumb, he planned for this moment the entire time (or has he?) and then he's caught off-guard in the most crucial moment. We don't even see if he actually knew what he was doing. Everything conveniently hidden by the timeskip. It seems like he skipped that time as well like me fast forwarding on a video and then missing something. The entire time he was always a step ahead and now he isn't.

>>23314575
It doesn't seem like he gave it to Kycillia though, she had to have Nyaan kill the super weapon's research team just to use it.

>>23314584
He was only in the series for like an episode and a half, his only purpose was to awkwardly introduce newtype remote weapons, and then was immediately overshadowed and forgotten about. Even Tomino didn't consider him important enough to keep around for the movies or mention him again. He is the Trant Clark of the original series.

>>23314568
> Why did Challia give up the Rose of Sharon off screen?
Probably had to. We really skipped way too much between episodes. He knew he fucked up when kycilia made her move faster then he anticipated. I think this is the first time in show he's been outplayed by anyone.
>Why didn't Machu connect the dots once she saw it inside the new doomsday weapon and get upset that Challia literally enabled Zeon to use it?
Has any action Machu has taken on this series shown you that she is good at this level of thinking. She's acted almost entirely on impulse this whole show. Aside from that Bull gave her his suicide pistol and let's her pilot in the vacuum of space without a helmet that could protect her from cockpit leaks. They're tight now.
Being serious, I think we really needed an episode between the last and this one. We really could have used more time with Chalia training her, and using contact communication during the training to dump his Newtype philosophy stuff on her. It was speed run way too fast in this episode.

>>23314582
They even got Mirai's fiancee really close and he's super niche. I doubt that's their reasoning, specially when the name change of Challia's MA assumes you know even more than the average MSG viewer, not less.

>>23314602
He gave it to Gihren, because that's his job as a loyal Zeon soldier. Pretty much everyone suspects him as a Gihren loyalist and didn't consider he was Charpilled and pursuing his own aims. Him saving Kycilia was only enough to deflect some of the suspicion.

>>23314607
>Aside from that Bull gave her his suicide pistol
I know they are obviously setting up a stand off outside of mobile suits between Nyaan and Machu but this was such a weird gesture if you only have Machu's perspective lol

>>23314614
Did you miss the first half of the episode?

>>23314618
That's exactly what makes it weird, my dude. Why do Newtypes Machu barely knows keep trauma dumping on her?

>>23314620
All newtypes are autistic

>>23314568
who is sharon?

>>23314628
Lalah, for some reason.

>>23314620
Okay so you are just new to the franchise.

>>23314638
Get a clue.

>>23314654
Scoody-Doo

>>23314572
>>23314608
Challia looks different because his old design made him look like he was in his late 50s instead of his mid 30s.

>>23314463 (OP)
I'm reasonably convinced we're going with Machu moving past Shuji (can't really call it a rejection when it's one-sided), with her not ending up with anyone by the time the series ends.

>>23314620
Was Gquux or Witch your first gundam?

>>23314534
He’s 16-17 in Zeta, which takes place in 0087. Since Gqucks is set in 0085, he’d be 14-15.

>>23314702
He's 17 in zeta, birthdate November 11, 0069
Machu is 17 right now born vaguely in 0068

>>23314572
His 0079 redesign is fairly in-line with the rest of the redesigns.
He survived the war, unlike in the UC, so he got to work on his image since then. He likely realised that his pale green hair made him look like a graying old man in his early 30s, so he decided to go for zoomer sidecut and a goatee to counteract that and make himself look younger.

>>23314568
more importanty why was that and Machu agreeing to go with Challia offscreen, the storyboarding must've taken a hit

>>23314732
The idea of Midlife crisis Bull is kind of funny. I can kind of just picture him walking by one of his subordinates and them talking about the saying isn't he north of 40. Anyway I agree you can see the design evolution from 0079 to gq 0079 pretty easily.

>>23314760
Gquuuux version

>>23314762
I don't want to look ancient when I'm closer to 30 then 40 version

>>23314572
>For some reason

Sex appeal.

>>23314628
>>23314631

The Rose of Sharon is another name for Jesus Christ or something. (When I tried looking for more I ended up on some evangelist website so that might not be entirely accurate lol but it is a biblical term.) Probably because its like anyone who goes to the other side and back gives people the impression they were resurrected since they were assumed dead.

>>23314697
I'm theorizing that we might actually get to a point next episode where Machu will be more critically aware of Shuji than Nyaan. We've seen a ton of parallels between them this episode and one of them being that Machu has gotten new friends and new goals while Nyaan has become more unfriendly with Xavier and more laser focused on Shuji.
Machu's goal was freeing the Rose this episode and if it comes to a point where Shuji will try to misuse it, then Machu will step inbetween them while Nyaan will be completely wrapped around his finger because she has nothing else to fight for.

>>23314767
The funny thing is if you look old when you're young when you do get old people won't think of you as being old because you always looked that way.

>>23314732
>zoomer sidecut
That hairstyle is older than your father.

What are the chances we get non metal Robot Damashii toys? I dont do gunpla now and I can't believe a single metal robot is 200 dollerydoos.

I would get back into gunpla if they made this guy though

Haro is the key to all of this

>>23314992
Fashion comes around in circles.

>>23314989
I think the overall message that the show is going for is that the single-minded obsession a lot of the characters display results in them missing the bigger picture / what's important. I keep thinking back to what Lalah did last episode, choosing to remain in the brothel in the hopes of finding Char. I think to tie that together Machu will need to shed her obsession with Shuji, but I don't know what will be the catalyst for it; Shuji having a conflicting motivation to Machu's could definitely be one.

>>23314463 (OP)
>positive, affirming
is this show so horrible the fans now need safe spaces?

>>23315065
Considering the level of cope in Gquuuuuux threads yeah

Since Char has decided to take a very un-Char role in this series, who's the GQ0085 Char clone? Challia?

>>23315058
Machu isn't obsessed with Shuji as he isn't the only thing in her mind despite being her driving force at the moment, there is also the not subtle at all implication last episode that what she feels for him is genuine love that is most probably reciprocated going by how he acts towards her compared to everyone else

Nyaan on the other side seems to actually be obsessed with Shuji, probably as a result of being a love starved teenager whose main priority is herself

>>23315088
I thought it might have been Doo because she’s a fellow teenager (or younger) who wears a mask and was set up like an anti Machu, but she turned out to be a nobody who died like a chump. It’s probably Nyaan, with Shuji as the Lalah, which means that Machu’s first kill will be Shuji.

>>23315147
why'd they even introduce her

>>23315088
Challia seems to be more of a Quattro than a Char, does that work?

>>23315140
>Machu isn't obsessed with Shuji as he isn't the only thing in her mind despite being her driving force at the moment
I think she definitely was, though. She's been gained other priorities in this episode and the last, but she was laser-focused on going to Earth with Shuji and it wasn't until her time at the brothel serving as a wake-up call that this shifted in her mind. It's really a question of what the show is going for, since both Machu and Nyaan projected what they wanted onto Shuji without really understanding what's going on with him (Machu doesn't even know why Shuji wants the Rose in spite of wanting to help him find it), it would be strange for it to end up as genuine love for either of them.

>>23315153
The only way a lot of GQ makes sense is if it had originally been written as a 2 cour show than cut down later. Deux looks like and gets marketed like an important secondary character when she has less screentime than Shiiko, the Tristars, and the Pomeranians, who do not get attention. Deux would be a good contrast to Machu. Her philosophy on earning newtypism through suffering and willpower is refuted by Machu living a good life and gaining extremely potent powers with no trauma. If the two had met, Machu would drive Deux insane with rage and jealousy. It would be:
>you get to have parents
>you get to live a normal life
>you’re a strong newtype
>and you have the nerve to complain
Sort of stuff.

>>23314991
>The funny thing is if you look old when you're young when you do get old people won't think of you as being old because you always looked that way.
Arn Anderson syndrome

>>23315088
Machu herself has a few Char parallels. Her refusing to wear a mask in the cockpit of her MS is similar to him, for example, and the hat was a (stupid) way to hide her identity.

>>23315185
I don’t think Deux would care about anything but the “you don’t deserve your power” point as she’s been mindwiped to believe she’s just wetware for her Gundam. Unless she sees her pre cyber life during a kira kira, she wouldn’t have any context to get angry at Machu over. Maybe a vague resentment as Machu gets the affection she desires (she packed a stuff animal with her luggage, so she’s not completely devoid of those longings), but that’s it.

Gquuuuuux is my first gundam series and I am enjoying it very much! Which would be a good one to watch next?

>>23315223
MSG 1979.

>>23314983
It worked.

>>23315223
X, then Stardust Memory.

>>23315223
Golgo 13: The Professional

>>23315140
>going by how he acts towards her compared to everyone else
Sorry what? The last time they interacted was in episode 4 and he doesn't treat her any different than he did Nyaan.
Just last episode they made a point that Machu doesn't understand anything about Shuji.

>>23315223
seed destiny. you don't need to watch seed first for it either.

>>23314998
>Robot Damashii toys
Isnt't it Tamashii?

>>23315223
Seems like The Witch from Mercury would be right up your alley.

>>23315245
at any rate, an impressive kira-kira

>>23315223
everything else in release order

>>23314463 (OP)
also the way the shot was sorta lifting from that part in EoE before Misato sends Shinji out I had sort of assumed Chalia had been injured off-screen

All three of them are really cute. I do love GQX's normal suits. Not as grounded as the traditional slimmed up astronaut suits of other UC, but far more aesthetic.

>>23315012
holy shit

>>23315271
From memory a big chunck of Shuji's lines are towards Machu and pretty much all of them are him talking for himself while everyone else gets more "Gundam says..." lines than Machu who only gets three of those, he has also shown he cares enough for Machu that he is willing to get the Gundam damaged to protect her and him calling out for her in the trailer is one of the rare times his emotions are notable in his voice with the other one I can think of being apparent disappointment at Nyaan being Waldo's pilot in EP7

>>23315223
Witch From Mercury

Now that Nyaan has a purposefully high body count I doubt she survives.

So why does this have a kit when it hasn't appeared in the show proper?

>>23315547
Machu won't kill her. If anyone does it, it's going to be Shuji. From the interviews, the final fight is meant to be Shuji vs Machu, anyways. So far, Shuji is by far the best pilot we've seen, so he's a pretty good shoo-in for final boss.

>>23314463 (OP)
Who cares?

>>23315579
>2 episodes left
>"uhh this guy is probably the final boss because he's the best pilot idk"
Great story.

>>23315586
He sees beyond time and has some mysterious dream he's working towards that will be revealed next episode. He's not just some stoner like people portray him as.

>>23315579
>Shuji vs Machu
What interviews? I need a goddamn source.

>>23315547
If those balls are miniature so zeknovas then Gquuuuuux is going to enter the realm of retarded powerlevel faggotry

the fact this shit keeps getting worse is actually impressive

>>23315579
>From the interviews

>>23315597
Newtype tech has always been trippy and OP. You're seeing a timeline where this tech was actually funded vs one where the Federation tried to cover up all existence of newtypes and was researching ways of getting rid of newtypism, even imprisoning Amuro under house arrest because newtypes were so scary.

>>23315664
Wonder how long before GQ Psycommu machines develop crazy abilities like those of Unicorn and Phenex

I posted my predictions in the other thread, but the more I think about it, I think I was a bit off. How could I have missed this >>23315094

>>23315574
It was originally going to be a thing but they cut down the show way too much so now the merchandising is out of sync with the show product. That's the only reason that makes any sense.

Is Turn A worth watching? 50 episodes is fucking too long

>>23315695

Yeah it's my favourite Gundam after the UC stuff but what mecha have you actually watched so far? Because 50 episodes is pretty common. I can't see you liking it with that mentality going in because it can be slow at first.

>>23315695
>50 episodes is fucking too long
What the fuck happened to this board

>>23315574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjB8XXw9y70

>>23315688
There's a lot of cool imagery related to Machu and water. Water is a pretty common symbol for the unconsciousness and subconciousness too.

>>23315589
The whole show kind of hinged on what the fuck is Shuji's deal right now.

Kind of related but it took me way to long to notice some really obvious FLCL connections because it's been years since I've seen it. Unless it's just a coincidence/similarity because it's a broad concept but this reminds me of Zeknovas.

>>23315743
I think the connections people are drumming up just because Khara snuck in some references to their previous work are all stupid and have no real thematic basis whatsoever.
G-Reco had a few references to King Gainer but they didn't impact G-Reco's story at all, and it's the same for this.

>>23315746
I have never seen anyone say anything about besides that Canti and Shuji have the same gloved so I have no idea what else you are talking about besides my post? I said it could be a broad scifi thing and coincidence too. I'm not really talking about themes either. I'm talking about how the Zeknova fucking teleports shit with your mind.

>>23315693
>character is named Nyan
>pilots a gundam with cat ears
>has a pilot suit with cat ears
BRAVO ANNO

>>23315759
You posted this the other day...

Finally figured out who Fred reminds me of.

>>23315759
Is this your first anime? hope you are enjoying it anon :)

>>23315693
>>23315759
I like to imagine that it was Kycilia that insisted on all the cat stuff

>>23315438
Hey it's rude to take pictures with short people like that!

>>23315693
as stupid and out of place as the whole cat motif is in UC nyaan is likeable enough that I kinda dont mind

>>23315012
>Haro is the key to all of this

>>23315783
>short
>people
pick one lmao

>>23315783
Machu is a womanlet and she is meant to be bullied for her height.

>>23315692
Kawaii Kycilia....

>>23315077
This post made me look up how popular Tom and Jerry is in Japan
Enough for it to get an anime this year it seems

>>23315726
We got old aoparently

Imo 50 episodes is hardly enough... especially for AUs to do enough world building

>>23315893
Zoomers will never know the importance of salt

I desperately want Nyaan to get some kind of good ending and I'm afraid that's not going to happen.

>>23315957
What we do in the mundane, can tell more about who we are and our character than when we are in the spotlight

>>23315153
>why'd they even introduce her
They wanted the Psycho Gundam episode but didn't want to unceremoniously kill Rosamia or Four for the sequence.

>>23315726
TikTok generation

>>23315693
Only thing missing is a cats tail

>>23315695
>50 episodes is fucking too long
It's basically the standard for mecha shows, or at least Gundam, pre-2005 or so. So if you want to watch any of this shit you're going to have to deal with that.

>>23314861
lel

>>23315487
Where is Challia?

>>23315692
Where is the Kou route?

>>23315695
>50 episodes is fucking too long
It's too freaking short. Every Gundam should be 100 episodes.

>>23316044
>Where is Challia?
Yes, where is Challia?

>>23315693
At least she doesn't have the pale skin. Still, god dammit...

>>23316046
I was in Nyaaaam, lost half my platoon to the damn Viet Cong....

>>23315693
Can handguns fire in the vacuum of space?

>>23316070
yes

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xcb1rUkBD54

>>23316070
you have to account for extreme temp variations fucking with the firing mechanisms and have recoil abosrbers/dampers but yeah

"Cecilia, bring me the poison"
dipdipdipdip schlorp dipdipdipdip horfgh dipdipdipdip omgmgffh
"Okay take the poison away."

uh guys...
>GQuuuuuuX and GFreD are metasyntactic placeholder names for a hidden true name
>they're basically EVA units
>show has been referencing and straight up recreating EVA, including the descent into central dogma last episode
Is it true that Tomino has a writing credit for this last episode?
Because if so, this isn't Khara's take on Gundam, it's Tomino's take on EVA.

>>23314568
I don't know. I really like this story so far but you can tell that it wasn't originally meant to be 12 episodes long. Maybe they decided at the last minute that investing 24 episodes was too much of a risk.

>>23315185
Deux could've been used as a warning to Machu about the dangers of kira kira addiction.

>>23316140
>Maybe they decided at the last minute that investing 24 episodes was too much of a risk.
Or it's just badly written.

>>23315012
Haro Balls would've stopped the colony drop

>>23315012
Haro Balls would've stopped Operation British

>>23314463 (OP)
It's funny. The real reason we won't get Scirocco is that he makes Challia look like a fraud.

>>23316140
>>23316184
It's really weird because we know the director can do short shows that show the development of MC properly. His treatment of Machu compared to his treatment of Naota is bizarre. Maybe the staff serving under him in FLCL was better.

>>23316184
no cause its not edited in a badly written way. The way the rose of sharon cuts from being lifted out of the water to installed in ghirens reactor is a good example of this. The way ghiren gets like 30 seconds of screen time.

Similar vibes to Arcane season 2. just too much story trying to be told in two little time. I think the trade off is that we got pretty good animation as a result.

>>23316205
>we got pretty good animation as a result.
uhhh

>>23314463 (OP)
Don't care about Machu, I want Kycilia and Nyaan to have some happy mommy daughter time.

>literal fanfiction series
have fun with your non-canon nonsense

>>23316242
I can have fun with it because it's clear it's just stupid fanfiction instead of retarded retconning like Unicorn that demands it be taken seriously

>>23316272
Gquuuuuux has as much retconning as Unicorn does. It certainly fucked up newtypes just as badly

Can you guys make a separate GQx bitching and moaning thread, please?

>>23316287
Suuuuuuc my nuts

if you do not like this you are gonna HATE the inevitable 0079 reboot in a few years.

>>23316286
>retcon
>explicitly stated to be an alternate universe
It is morally wrong to be this unrepentantly stupid.

>>23315487
Doo-chan is very popular

>>23314463 (OP)
Yeah so now I get why Scirocco can't appear in Gquuuuuux. He would make Challia and his backstory look like a complete joke.
While Challia struggled, Scirocco made many MS that could thrive in Jupiter. No wonder they said the story wouldn't work with him. It has nothing to do with Nyaan and Machu and everything to do with Challia.

>>23316291
I mean I already hated the char wank in the origin.
All this proves is that Char fans don't understand his specialty is MS vs Ship combat and beating down useless grunts.

>>23316314
The fact that it's an alternate universe doesn't matter when the plot establishes newtypes are capable of interdimensional travel now, instead of the turning in to a ghost thing they've done all previous times.

>>23316336
I guess Turn A's ability to teleport was Zeknova all along! Well I guess it was sort of hinted at it was a newtype ability.

>>23316328
It's super funny because all things considered gqx Challia is an Anno selfinsert.
Hear that? Anno is afraid of Paptimus fucking Scirocco.

>>23316328
The Jupiter mission nearly failing also seems to be a huge difference in the setting. If Scirocco had gone though the same thing no doubt it would of been mentioned.

>>23316343
Anno only wrote for EP2, the first half of EP8 and some modifications that went into EP9 in regards to Sodon stuff from memory

>>23316336
You have Fukui to blame for that.
>Phenex can go Beyond The Time at will and goes around fixing timelines
>Lalah is a multiversal being that watches over all realities for all eternity
This is just more of the same shit.

we're setting up for machu to have a trolley problem
gun's gotta point at earth and start charging the lazor
but she can kick it to make it fire off course
but off course gun will hit side six
so a question- will she kill billions on earth, or will she kill millions and her mum?

>>23316383
Probably she lets it fire at the earth people unless she really hates her mom.

>>23316387
but shuji wanted to go to earth
how's he going to go there if there's no earth

>>23316383
The Omega psycommu might just activate and absorb it. You can see Gquuuuuux with 4 captive singularities in the episode preview>>23315547

>>23316391
5d chess
now he'll have to settle for her round head reminding him of earth

>>23316286
Even if it retconned all events in UC, it still stands above Unicorn, because it know it's an AU.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZYLZpN5mg

もしもあの改札の前
I wonder, if, before that ticket gate
立ち止まらずに歩いていれば
I'd never stopped, if I'd kept walking,
君の顔も知らずのまま
Still ignorant of your face,
幸せに生きていただろうか
I could've lived a happy life?

もしもあの裏門を越えて
If I hadn't taken that back gate
外へ抜け出していなければ
And slipped away to the outside,
仰ぎ見た星の輝きも
Instead of gazing at the brilliant star above me,
靴の汚れに変わっていた
I would've seen how I dirtied my shoes

寝転んだリノリウムの上
Hurled down atop linoleum,
逆立ちして擦りむいた両手
Standing hands grazed,
ここも銀河の果でだと知って
Knowing myself to be in cosmic expanse,
目眩がした夜明け前
The vertigo before the dawn

聞こえて答えて届いて欲しくて
"Hear me, answer me," desperate to reach,
光って光って光って叫んだ
"Shine on, shine on, shine on," I shout
金網を越えて転がり落ちた刹那
Leaping and rolling past chain link, that moment,
世界が色づいてく
For the first time the world begins to take on color

飛び出していけ宇宙の彼方
Set flight beyond distant stars,
目の前をぶち抜くプラズマ
As plasma, piercing through appearance
ただひたすら見蕩れていた
All I could do was look on enraptured,
痣も傷も知らずに
Knowing neither bruise nor scar
何光年と離れていても
No matter how many light years I fly,
踏み出した体が止まらない
My body stays in motion, it cannot be stopped
今君の声が遠く聞こえている
Even now I hear your voice ringing out from afar,
光っていく
And it goes on shining

>>23316504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcxhZTb_6zs

Best Gundam opening in YEARS

>>23316377

>>Lalah is a multiversal being that watches over all realities for all eternity

GQuuuuuuX Lalah doesn't seem to be aware of the one Lalah who sacrificed herself to save Casval/Char. She only brought up the other Lalah who watched Casval/Char get killed who ended up in GQuuuuuuX UC.

>>23316331
I think the feedback on chars character is something they are going to monitor closely. they don't want to get him wrong in a future reboot.

just wait to see what they do with Hayato and other fringe characters tho

>>23316504
>first two verses are about Machu and Nyaan
Yuribros?

>>23316561
Maybe it's set up for Gquuuuux to actually be a prequel to MSG where Lalah decides to fix the timeline by dying during Char and Amuro's duel. I hope not since i'm not a fan of stories that end with all of the events undone

>>23316575
She’s not straightforwardly saying she regrets meeting Nyaan and Shuuji. She’s saying part of her longs for the peace she knew as a normal, frustrated teenage girl, and that she is in serious pain as a result of the things she’s seen and had to do. But she’s also saying that their meeting gave her world color and totally transformed it, gave it meaning, and that she’s in way too deep to stop herself now

>>23316561
I'm talking about the Lalah in Light Of Life who shows Amuro all the timelines that the Turn A destroys and how it's an unavoidable universal constant.

>>23316649
I thought that was still more a cyclical history rather than multiple universes

Can Nyaan please live and find happiness?

>>23316744
I want this so badly, but don't like the chances of it happening at all. This episode was a pretty red flag.

>>23316751
She's gonna live. Machu will save her.

>>23316744
>die
>becomes vegetable/cripple
>trapped in a wack ass different dimension
>arrested and used as a scapegoat
>forced to go into exile under a new name
>gets away scott free (difficult)
>gets away scott free + wins the hobo (super difficult)
Pick one.

Yomagn'tho is leagues above other super weapons of the Universal Century, save the Angel Halo and Moonlight Butterfly. In a universe with solar weapons and weaponized colonies, it's a full on space-time distortion weapon capable of faster than light transportation and utilizing an generated Axis Shock/Zeknova to wipe out an entire Zeon fleet alongside consuming A Baoa Qu in a singularity. Few other super weapons throughout the various Gundam universes is as horrifying as Yomagn'tho.

This shows why the Federation of the original timeline was right in completely banning all Newtype technology and research, and outlawing even talking about Newtypes and homosexuality.

>>23316768
>homosexuality
Wait, the federation banned gays?

>>23316768
It's not really any different than a nuclear weapon like Physalis's warhead in practical terms

>>23316757
Maybe. But even if she lives, will she find happiness?
She did just kill a lot of people, anon, and is probably going to try to kill a lot more next episode. That's not conductive to a character getting a happy ending. We're getting to the point that the most likely route to happy ending for Nyaan is that fucking time loop idea, and that's not a good place to be.

>>23316760
I don't want to speculate because I'll get sad.
>wins the hobo
That's a bad ending.

>>23316751
Yeah, it was... and even if she does live, there's probably going to be some big trauma she needs to cry/hug out. Machu could be good with that- and she's in her own mess too with being a wanted fugitive.
I'm guessing that Nyaan gets wounded (as a "well she doesn't get away entirely" kind of thing) and she ends the series in that vulnerable state.

>>23316760
I think Shuji will sacrifice himself in some capacity to save her.
I'm also hoping she is *not* the one to kill Kycilia, I want that to be Char again.

>>23316768
The destructive power of technology shouldn't overshadow the constructive power it has. Yomagn'tho is horrifying, but it's also a fucking teleporter. That's incredible. Imagine how much good that could do if it wasn't being used as a weapon.

>>23316772
It's way more dangerous than that. The range and destructive power are way higher. That nuke didn't crack Solomon in half.

>>23316241
I remember making these with my family when I was a kid

>>23316773
She did kill a lot, and that should weigh on her mind, but it was also killing the forces that destroyed her home/family. I don't think she harbors much sympathy for Zeon, or any side of the conflict in particular. She's just surviving.
Curious to see how much of Kycilia's kindness is genuine and how much was just grooming.

The story will conclude with the rose being freed by Shirouzu, and she will then go back in time to stop Char getting the Gundam so she can get be killed by Amuro, resulting in the entirety of Gquuuuuux's events being reset and timeline being repaired, rendering this show pointless.
Screencap this post NOW

>>23316779
I think Machu will wrap up easily. Side 6 reporters are on site. They just need to film her saving everyone from the doomsday weapon and her reputation is fixed.
Machu is in a good place mentally right now after finding her purpose again and it'll be her job to spread that positive purpose to Nyaan who is currently spiraling with no goal besides desperation.

>>23316770
Yeah. According to Tomino's writings from the 90's, it was because when the colonies initially launched, the infrastructure and logistics were only half built, leading to mass death from disease, radiation, starvation, lack of housing, etc. The Federation passed some ordinances, among them the anti-gay stuff, to level out the dropping population. Like most Federation policy, it failed to address the root issue of the problem and only made the spacenoids more resentful. These were also the interviews that established the EF doing really scummy things to help explain why the colonies were such a hotbed of extreme ideologies and revolutionaries, like the EF forcing undesirables and poor onto colonies against their will, then forcing a crippling loan on them as "service" for the trip/colony. The debt from this loan is inheritable, so that three generations down the line, pay is still being garnished (with interest) from the spacenoids.

>>23316790
I can't buy that. Nyaan's in too deep to say she's just surviving, there wasn't any revenge vibe from her firing Yomagn'tho, and regardless of all of that, she still casually killed the non-combatant scientists in the control room without a care. Yes, she's being groomed and manipulated by Kycilia, regardless of genuine she is, but...she still did it.

>>23316791
That would be THE worst ending.

>>23316803
She's keeping her mind focused on Shuji so I don't think she fully realizes just what she's doing. That bomb is going to hit soon and could result in the 'Diablo' stuff. Kycilia is the one person she looks up to, so she's doing as told and that person is saying it's necessary. It's enough to justify it in that second, even if she knows the truth.
The obvious thing to say is the series needed some more episodes but even narratively, a time skip could have helped cement how each person feels and why. Things just moved so quickly. Nyaan and Machu are both interesting characters but they developed shockingly fast that it doesn't feel as genuine as I wish it did.

Nyaan has been seduced by Kycilia. Look at her, proudly wearing her Zeon pilot suit, piloting old Fred, blowing up her enemies, taking baths with the damn woman. She’s bought into the “freedom is strength, the power to do what is necessary to survive” logic from Kycilia. Machu on the other hand is sympathizing with Challia Bull, who’s been telling her that freedom is what you find at your lowest, when you’ve lost all sympathy, expectations, and hope, that it’s what you choose to do in that moment, the freedom of an absolute self-determination towards an ideal or a dream

>>23316803
Nyaan is gonna crash hard because the only thing she has that's still pushing her is the desperation that meeting Shuji again will justify and fix everything. But Shuji is not gonna entertain her fantasy if he appears again like the preview suggests and might reject her for becoming a ruined Newtype. At that point she will have nothing left.
The potential positive outcome will be that she will still have Machu, who she thought rejected her, but actually didn't.

>>23316814
>proudly wearing her Zeon pilot suit
Note at how Challia insisted she not wear a military pilot suit and helmet because she is a civilian, and how Kycillia put her into an uniform as soon as she got her.
They have opposing role models trying to grow them in opposing ways.

>>23316781
>>23316768
Where would the OTL Feds have been had they not been suppressing all newtype research and turning it into the equivalent of UFO conspiracies IRL?

Should have given a Ragyo/Satsuki type scene with Kycilia/Nyaan

>>23316812
I dunno, man, maybe? She's never been bothered by killing before, I don't think it's going to bother her now.
>The obvious thing to say is the series needed some more episodes but even narratively, a time skip could have helped cement how each person feels and why. Things just moved so quickly. Nyaan and Machu are both interesting characters but they developed shockingly fast that it doesn't feel as genuine as I wish it did.
God damn do I feel that. It's G-Witch all over again.

>>23316816
Now that I could see. Maybe Shuji attacks Nyaan and Machu comes to her defense with some really unearned "She's still my friend!" bit?
I really don't care about Shuji very much, but his role is pretty critical in these last two (three?) episodes. Considering how little time there is left and how little development Shuji's actually gotten, I assume he'll be tied closely to the disguised Char that's waiting in the wings. Maybe he'll be the actual final boss?

>>23316840
>some really unearned "She's still my friend!" bit?
If that happens I don't think it will be like that.
Machu has to realize that she had everything Nyaan didn't and even though she's a girl the same age as her she has been dealt the worst cards. And yet she still yelled at her for the perceived slight of taking an inch of her position.
Machu will have to defend her because she can't give up on her due to the potential of "if the world had been better to her, she could have been like me" and "if things had been worse for me I'd have ended up like her".

>>23315879
Not pictured: icelina dying after eating the pie

>>23316840
I don't really care either way about Shuji. Cool if he has fans. Maybe something interesting is revealed in the final two episodes, I'm sure he plays some role and we could get a Machu and Nyaan standoff. That would be his moment to shine as a character.
I really like both these girls though. Machu was good from when I saw the movie, but Nyaan really grew on me the last few episodes. She's badass but also sweet in a reserved way. Little things end up being big gestures to her.

>>23316788
>he had parents-child interactions as a kid
lol, lmao jelly

>>23316849
do zoomers really

>>23316884
Why do you think younger people are all flavors of fucked up now

>>23316884
Watch Brain Powerd. Tomino has a whole ass anime about this. And its pretty relevant to Machu and Nyaan too since they have absent and busy parents.

>>23316849
>>23316884
>>23316888
>子供が無視されちゃたまんないんですよ!

Guardian swap therapy. The cat goes with beard-man for a week, and tomato goes with mask-lady. Surely that will solve everything.

>>23316844
You could do both. Yours does sound more likely, though.

>>23316848
I'm pretty sure Shuji is going to turn out to just be Char. Not directly, he's not Char in a wig acting like a drug addict hobo, but via some sort of newtype bullshit. The show's spent too much time on Char and hasn't developed Shuji at all, it's gotta be something like this.
I like Machu, I like tiny angry creatures, but her development has been incredibly rushed. I still can't believe how little time she spent on Earth. Didn't even fucking touch the ocean.
Nyaan won me over almost immediately with how pitiful she is, and that hasn't changed. I also see that reserved sweetness, but it kinda gets buried in how much life's shit on her. If her arc ends up being "miserable refugee girl gets seduced by evil then dies" I'm going to have to revise my opinion on this show.
And I don't like either of their obsessions with Shuji. Even for a newtype connection it feels really shallow for how much it matters to both of them. Again, rushed development.

HOLY SHIT

>>23316914
>I'm pretty sure Shuji is going to turn out to just be Char
Shuji will be Amuro, because in order to bait another cour, the feddies(mainly the Titans) need show a response to Kycilla's shit.

>>23314991
Basically Steve McQueen then

>>23316914
>Again, rushed development.
This is a two-cour show edited to fit into just one. I blame Sunrise/Bandai rather than Tsurumaki or Enokido.

>>23316287
No, we need 20 more threads on why Zeta is good or bad.

>>23316928
Nah if it were up to bandai they would milk this for as much as they can

>>23316929
>No, we need 20 more threads on why Zeta is good
We actually do, Gquuuuux has shown us just how many so called UC fans actually watched UC gundam.

>>23316923
>because in order to bait another cour, the feddies(mainly the Titans) need show a response to Kycilla's shit.
What part of "the Federation is a non-entity in this timeline" you fail to understand. Kycilia outright admits that the hit was orchestrated by Gihren.

>>23316914
>And I don't like either of their obsessions with Shuji
I'm still reading it as obsession with their personal desires projected onto him.

>>23316914
Development of these characters and ideas are begging for growth, OVAs or novels. Anything, as of now I want more (though like with you, depending how it it's that could change. I would be upset if it feels like it all fell flat and was for naught.)
Shuji might get a reveal/explanation for what he is but I don't know how he fits into things as a normal person. Does he just return to flying around and being a graffiti artist?
If Earth survives, I think it'd be fitting for Machu and Nyaan to end up there. On a beach, both bruised up, watching the debris in the sky, hesitantantly enjoying the water, and sharing food. Even if it's a simple ration because both their mobile suits got wrecked. Machu saved one and offers half, not knowing the weight of it.
Like End of Eva but more on coming together rather than tension.

>>23316930
That is not how it works. Bandai wants maximum audience engagement (gunpla, merch, video game cameos) with minimum investment (single-cour anime).

>>23316914
Nyaan isn't just some poor teenager that was given a bad hand by life and so ended where she now stands, her betrayal of Machu out of a selfish desire to keep Shuji to herself is what landed both of them in their current sittuations...

Want to know the funny bit? It most probably was all for nothing as Machu actually still saw her as a friend back then and Shuji probably would prefer to stay friend with Nyaan, now because her use of the Solar Ray she might lose the two real friendships she had ever since arriving to Izuma

>>23316936
Lalah's comment pretty much points to Machu's feeling for him being the real things, but Nyaan seems to be an actual obsession fueled half by love and half by being a love starved teenager latching on to the first guy her age to be kind to her in a loooong while

>>23316935
So Gihren gave them Hambrabi and Psycho Gundam tech?

>>23316953
>So Gihren gave them Hambrabi and Psycho Gundam tech?

>>23316935
>What part of "the Federation is a non-entity in this timeline" you fail to understand. Kycilia outright admits that the hit was orchestrated by Gihren.
All that really means is that Ghiren was an Informant leaking this shit to them, and seeing as he fucking died like a bitch here, no precations or anything, it only gives stronger edvince to the case. Not only that, who the fuck launches something like the fucking Psycho gundam for an assassination attempt and ONLY that?

>>23316953
They are probably mostly actual Federation designs and the shortcomings of the GQ Hambrabi but the Psycho Gundam's Biosensor could have been made from filtered information about the Psycommu systems

>>23316948
>Machu actually still saw her as a friend back then
No, Machu never really saw her as a friend. She was someone Machu used to sneak into the shadier side of life, less a friend and more a useful acquaintance, which is why she got mad at her for acting outside her role.

>>23316957
>Not only that, who the fuck launches something like the fucking Psycho gundam for an assassination attempt and ONLY that?
Somebody who wants to make sure that the job gets done with extreme prejudice. She's been years dodging assassination attempts. An average hitman just wouldn't cut it.

>>23316922
So that's just the One Year War uniform?

>>23316962
That's seriously what you think, you think that sending an UNTESTED mobile Armor, piloted by UNSTABLE MIND FUCKED PILOT, is what you send to guarentee a job gets done?

>>23316961
Machu got mad at Nyaan because she considered she was trying to take Shuji away from her, Machu was suffering doubts about her ability to get closer to the boy she likes and then her friend comes and threatens what in Machu's mind is the only solid footing in her quest for the paint hobo's heart

>>23316969
This is what Bask is telling us, on his own words. As far as we are aware, he didn't have any other reason to get involved other than to kill Kycilia, and his faction (either the "Titans" or the Federation at large) hasn't showed up in any way since. Even the Salamis/Magellan at the inauguration were from the Side 6 police, not the EFSF.

>>23316971
But more because Nyaan acted outside her role. The two were never friends.

This is the weirdest Gundam show I've ever seen. I've seen Gunbuster before but like this Gundam show feels like it's taking 3 different scripts and then just MASHING it all together.

>>23316923
I still think Haro is Amuro, and if the Feds show up in this at all it'll be like ZZ where they just show up at the end and claim victory.

>>23316928
Something like that, yeah. It seems to happen a lot lately.

>>23316936
For Machu yeah, less so for Nyaan, but either way it still feels shallow.

>>23316978
See >>23316928. And no, the excuse that "they've been planning for 12 episodes since 2023" doesn't fucking fly.

>>23316979
It's even harder for Nyaan than Machu now. Challia taught Machu how to achieve her freedom so she doesn't need Shuji for that purpose. Nyaan has nothing else to latch onto.

It's fast paced and communicates as much through subtle implication as it does through overt statement. This doesn't make it rushed.

>>23316984
No, it's rushed and lacking the buildup to make us care about the relations between characters.

>>23316984
>It's fast paced and communicates as much through subtle implication as it does through overt statement.
There are too many gaps and outright omissions in this thing for that pretext to work.

For instance, Machu spends all of the show obsessed about Earth's seas, yet in the single episode where she gets there, it's to retrieve the Elmeth. There's no closure here.

>>23316937
It feels like G-Witch in that it just needed more length. And also like G-Witch, I'm not sure you could fix it with OVAs or novels. The show already is what it is.
It is handling it's rapid pace pretty well in most cases, mind you. But the ones where it doesn't are really bad.

>>23316948
Nyaan betrayed Machu because Machu betrayed Nyaan, at least from Nyaan's perspective. Poor communication ruins everything yet again. And regardless, she IS a poor teenager who was given a bad hand by life. That's pitiful and worthy of sympathy.
>Want to know the funny bit?
I'm not laughing.

>>23316984
It's fast paced and communicates as much through subtle implication as it does through overt statement.
It's also rushed.

Nyaan is definitely dying but I think she isn't making it past next episode. If Shuji is a big part of the finale then it will focus on Machu, Shuji, Chalia, and Char whether it's mav partners fighting together or fighting against each other.

>>23316992
Everything related to her relation to Earth is resolved in the manor sequence. "Oh wow, Earth's gravity is exactly the same as the colonies'. Oh wow, not everywhere is an idyllic view of the great wide sea. Oh wow, there is massive economic and social exploitation here. Oh wow, the ocean is actually fucking terrifying." What she really wants isn't the Earth. This directly connects with Challia's backstory, the sense of loss, emptiness, and the resolve to live in freedom

>>23316999
It's too underplayed for being a large part of her character.

>>23316992
I don't think that one is over yet. She will swim in the ocean in the finale. Maybe they'll fall to earth during the final battle.

>>23316993
>It feels like G-Witch in that it just needed more length. And also like G-Witch, I'm not sure you could fix it with OVAs or novels. The show already is what it is.
G-Witch has an excuse of sorts: Ichiro Okuichi, the undisputed master of shoving pointless plot points into a script. You could give him a Wan Piss-number of episodes and it still wouldn't cover everything he has on the table.

Quax doesn't have that issue. The themes are character motivations are clearly stated, but they aren't elaborated to the extent that they should. For instance, >>23316999 is just looking for pretext for a script that doesn't have any room to breathe.

Please don't let my second favorite UC character have a cameo. Please don't let my second favorite UC character have a cameo. Please don't let my second favorite UC character have a cameo.

>>23316984
Sounds like a cope tbdesu, and an ever more common one over the past years of mecha.
Also Gquuuuuux isn't subtle at all in matters outside of Nyaan's sub plot

>>23317000
I don't think it's mandatory her performance be over the top all the time. I actually think it's telling that it wasn't. The earth really didn't do the things for her she thought it would. It was a let down. It's also not as if the writers aren't conscious of the need to set up and pay off, we're finally getting an Eksabe vs Challia fight next episode, for instance, they've been building up to that for a good long while

>>23317002
>G-Witch has an excuse of sorts: The writing sucks.
Huh.

>>23316993
G-Witch still did good on its major characters, it's the side cast like Lauda and Shaddiq's girls who were lacking.

>>23317004
All the people who don't even understand Machu's basic characterization beg to differ.

>>23317000
I think the subdued reaction from her is part of the point. She even notes that she wanted to see the ocean just before submerging and she just has zero enthusiasm left in her - her concept of "freedom" was pretty petty in comparison to what the people in the mansion and outside it were going through.

>>23317007
>G-Witch has an excuse of sorts: The writer sucks.
Fixed.

Okuichi isn't a bad screenwriter in and of himself, but he needs a strong director to be actually running the show and ideas. Otherwise, he keeps pulling the "add more plot" lever until you're left with dozens of hanging threads and rushed closures.

>>23317006
>they've been building up to that for a good long while
I wouldn't call 1 scene calling attention to them being on opposite sides build up.

>>23317008
Laura was the only good character since he derailed the shitty writing with his schizophrenia

>>23317014
It was definitely a lot more than one scene, though there was one whole episode where they put a lot of focus on it. He's been suspicious of Challia from the beginning, like, "what is this guy thinking, what's his deal"

>>23317012
>She even notes that she wanted to see the ocean just before submerging and she just has zero enthusiasm left in her
No, Machu says that she wanted to SWIM in the ocean, and is disappointed at the fact that looking for the Rose/Shuji is a bigger priority than her wishes. And that doesn't happen. Sending her diving on a Core Fighter isn't the same than actually swimming.

>>23317018
>He's been suspicious of Challia from the beginning, like, "what is this guy thinking, what's his deal"
That's all of Sodon.

>>23317021
Sure, but him and Komori in particular

>>23317020
In common parlance, this is what is called a "rug pull"
>hehe, you thought you'd see machu swimming on the sea?
>too bad! we need to advance the plot! fuck you!!

>>23317020
I think she'll get to swim in the end

>>23317020
bro look at her face as she submerges
I think she's probably over the ocean thing

The fact that it isn't clear despite being a large part of her character shows that it shouldn't have been underplayed.

>>23317020
>No, Machu says that she wanted to SWIM in the ocean, and is disappointed at the fact that looking for the Rose/Shuji is a bigger priority than her wishes.
First part you're obviously right about, but I wouldn't call her reaction one of disappointment, it feels too disinterested for that. Even if it were a disappointed reaction, I don't think there's enough to say what she's disappointed about.
>>23317026
It'd only be a rugpull if you sincerely thought Machu wasn't being portrayed as in need of a wake-up call for her naive mindset. The show is being perfectly consistent.

>>23317026
shut the fuck up zoomer

>>23317031
Clarity is relative to an audience
You could argue that it fails as a piece of mass media entertainment in this respect
But people these days have the privilege of watching episodes dozens of times hunting for shit in the background and making theory videos
Alphacide stuff for example was already present in episode 3

>>23317013
Oh, so it's the director and writer being bad that is the excuse.OK.

>>23317031
I actually like that a lot of characterizations are ambiguous in this show. It makes it less predictable and I have more fun theorizing about it.

Machu's relationship with Challia and Comolli being established offscreen is probably the first time I've really felt like the show actually rushed past something that would be significantly beneficial for its storytelling. It'd have helped demonstrate to us how Machu has changed since visiting Earth more.

>>23317029
>>23317033
>It'd only be a rugpull if you sincerely thought Machu wasn't being portrayed as in need of a wake-up call for her naive mindset
Shouldn't that have been elaborated at some point? The next time we see her, she's entirely doing Challia's bidding and looking for Shuji. No mention whatsoever about what she left behind, despite it being a constant on what is portrayed about her throughout the series.

I repeat myself: the elements are there and every scene would work just fine if we had more episodes, but there's just isn't enough material to work here. Audiences are operating at inference, which is what you are doing:
>ohh, machu just left behind the childish things she was motivated with!
Okay, fine, but where does that leave her as far as motivations are concerned? Following Challia, a man she calls "broken" to his face? More of her teenage longing for Shuji, which was supposed to be the actual obsession she was supposed to have left behind?

>>23317048
That and her training not being shown sucks

>>23317035
>Alphacide stuff for example was already present in episode 3
Freeze-frame details do not count.

>>23317048
Same. I didn't think anything was rushed until episode 9 and 10. I'd have liked more of Machu interacting with the Sodon crew.

>>23317048
>>23317052
Okay, but you instantly intuited everything that occurred between them just from the limited exchanges they shared on-screen. There is absolutely zero waste in this show
>>23317054
>do not count
Why not? How people can and do watch anime has changed. We don't have to wait years for home releases to come out or rely on private tape recordings to rewatch episodes

>>23317057
>There is absolutely zero waste in this show
No, there's absolutely zero room to maneuver and properly develop the plot elements, and you are making excuses for it.
There's a term to describe what this show is doing, but the jannies don't like it when people say the gamer word.

>>23317057
Knowing it rationally happened and having an emotional reaction seeing it happening are two different things. This show has a lot of the former and too little of the latter.

>>23317063
>>Knowing it rationally happened and having an emotional reaction seeing it happening are two different things.
>This show has a lot of the former and too little of the latter.
Bingo. It all comes off as "this and that just happened off-screen and we don't have any time at all to put it".
The principle of "show, don't tell" is not a pretext for writers to not do their job.

>>23317057
>Okay, but you instantly intuited everything that occurred between them just from the limited exchanges they shared on-screen.
I think the thing that's not 100% clear from how it's been told is: what does Machu want now? She's been listening to Challia, sure, and in the immediate she's furious about the use of the Yomagn'tho, but what are her long-term desires? I think this is likely to be answered, going forward, but compared to the rest of the show I can't think of anything in the current episode which really hints at what she's after.

>>23317068
I think that is fine because Machu herself doesn't yet know what she wants. She has the short term goal of stopping them from mistreating Lalah but she still hasn't really discovered what freedom means for herself yet.

>>23314861
kek

>>23317068
>but compared to the rest of the show I can't think of anything in the current episode which really hints at what she's after.
I don't like to say it, but I believe the answer is "Shuji's smelly hobo cock". We are inferring that Challia explained to Machu that she's a Newtype and the "kira-kira" is a manifestation of her esper powers.

>>23317063
>>23317065
This just seems like a preference in taste or disposition. I always approach a show rationally and the emotional reaction or sense of aesthetic pleasure I derive from it I derive from the degree of its rational unity, how elegantly it is put together
I think it's honestly impressive how much GQx has already communicated in just 10 episodes, how little waste there is, how full individual frames tend to be, etc.

>>23315223
from the beginning, in release date order
you're missing out on a fuckton

>>23317075
*like a matter of taste or disposition

>>23315579
Warning:
Machu is cute

>>23317075
>>23317078
>I always approach a show rationally and the emotional reaction or sense of aesthetic pleasure I derive from it I derive from the degree of its rational unity, how elegantly it is put together
i'm aghast as to how pretentious the shit you just wrote is

>>23316535
i really like the OP and ED songs for gcucks man
i dont get why so many people are shitting on them

>>23317080
aight blud lemme put it to you like this
i don't even get into a show off no feelings first — it's how it all come together that hit me. if it’s tight, make sense, flow right, that’s when it really move me

>>23317057
>There is absolutely zero waste in this show
Nobody’s disputing that. It’s still rushed. These aren’t mutually exclusive things.

>>23317084
stop calling it gcucks then

>>23317057
Because "subtlety" shouldn't become a byword for writers relying on the viewer rote memorization of bullet points from shows that actually fleshed themselves out (all of the Zeta and 0079 references) or freeze frame details that would normally be trivia instead of replacing actual foreshadowing
If you apply those same "rational standards" you can make any terribly written and directed show seem like a masterpiece, like 00 season 2 or Eureka 7 AO

>>23317074
>but I believe the answer is "Shuji's smelly hobo cock"
So long as the show isn't going to claim Machu's feelings for Shuji are anything but shallow, I don't mind this.

>>23317084
Are they? I haven't seen anyone shit on the songs themselves besides people complaining that the upbeat jpop tunes don't belong in their gritty war drama UC.

>>23317093
I shit on the songs because the tonal dissonance is either a directorial shitpost, or corporate fiat to promote idol shit.

>>23317092
I'm certain she will actually learn to understand him in the end, and it'll be some sort of "I'm glad I met you" kinda thing, but I really don't believe there'll be an endgame couple.

>>23317084
I don't really like them, as well as the insert songs. I liked sneed insert songs so I'm not sure why I'm having a hard time with them here
Meteor is the coolest shit

>>23317092
The show doesn't frame her feelings for Shuji as being any more or less deep than Lalah's love for Amuro and Char so things are looking bleak on that front

>>23317096
It's not really dissonant to tge tone of the show. It has the same aesthetic of looking colorful/sounding upbeat but having an melancholic undertone. Every single insert song is like this.

>>23317096
Worse, it's to promote idol and vtuber shit

>>23317089
I don't know, these standards all seem pretty arbitrary to me
Relying on tropes/audience prior knowledge allows a story to move along/message to be communicated with maximum efficiency to its intended recipients
Placing things in the background and expecting attentive viewers to identify them isn't unreasonable in today's media distribution landscape
To me you could only call these traits failures if the intended audience for the series was a general audience of first-time Gundam viewers
But this is very clearly not the case

>>23317100
If we're talking about this show's Lalah, she fucking opted to go back to the whorehouse over claiming freedom for herself due to her love of a Char she's never even met in person. I'm not certain she's meant to be a positive role model.

>>23317104
That IS Lalah's freedom

>>23317075
This show is put together with the elegance of a 1000 piece puzzle "completed" by a crackhead.

>>23317106
Lalah's freedom is being whisked away by Char and THEN taken to space. Something that might never happen in this timeline.

>>23317099
Because TM Revolution fits the mood, but this bubblegum excrement doesn't work here, no matter how many "melancholy" excuses guys like >>23317101 put forward.
They butchered the whole thing with Kycilia and the Kikeroga with that fucking music.

>>23317106
>That IS Lalah's freedom
This is the problem with whores, man, they only feel free when they're giving the deluxe course to a client.

>>23317111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLU8yHWsquk

>>23316922
go on Anon

>>23317089
The actual meaty bits that you can analyze out of the show are all around Machu and Nyaan's characterization and have nothing to do with 0079 though.
Take episode 6 for example. It has no action at all and is just increasingly about taking away Machu's room of maneuvering until she believes she has no way out but her plan to go to earth. If you don't watch it with an attentive mindset literally nothing happens in the episode, but in reality a lot of things happen in Machu's head.

>>23317118
I think Char is going to make a cameo on this series

>>23316535
It's just as good as G-Witch's first OP AKA it's Yoasobi-tier trash.

>>23317111
Kikeroga picking up Gqux to that music was great though. Feels good not being a jaded old man.

>>23317122
woah...
no seriously I didn't notice that in the preview
uniform looks redesigned doe, kinda goes against Char being just time displaced

>>23317125
>-tier
can we stop with this shit already

I'm happy about the fact that Machu finally is doing her acrobatics inside the Gundam. I was afraid they wouldn't actually let her do it. The only thing I still need is a Gundam handstand.

>>23317115
See, this works because the instrumentation is subdued and it utilizes the key cores of enka, a sentimental, melancholic genre by its very nature.
The bubblegum shit playing on the Psyco's rampage is an insult in the ears of the viewer, and morons excuse it. Especially when the "actual" soundtrack is authentically dramatic.

>>23317135
Just say you don't like it instead of trying to speak for everyone.
I like it. Midnight reflection is my favourite song out of this series so far.

>>23317136
The song wouldn't be bad in and of itself for literally anything else, even as an ED.
It's its use in the show what annoys me. Context is everything.

>>23317135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEGaywW5cTU

>>23317134
The difference between Machu and Nyaan’s posture and body language is kinda intense.

>>23317132
zoomers can't properly portray their ideas if it isn't through buzzwords and memes

>>23317132
You're a Kudelia-tier cuuuuuuck.

>>23317143
Did you know that Tomino hated having to call their show's protagonist "Char"? It's literally a play on words with "whoosh" in Japanese.

>>23317138
Midnight reflection is the song they used for Machu and Nyaan meeting. It fits perfectly fine for the scene it was in.
>https://youtu.be/73stcwZC9vk?si=Bna1RNF-mN-ScHx9
The song you're probably thinking about is Halo
>https://youtu.be/dDAP5OQv2RA?si=YNt12hTX0NVl62tz
and even that fits well in its role as resolution of tension inside the episode.

>>23317147
Zoomer is a meme buzzword, which makes you a hypocrite.

>>23317144
Well Nyaan is pretty much being cornered in every way

>>23317144
It's righteous indignation vs. bitter determination.
>>23317134
I'm curious if Nyaan thinks it's Machu in the Gundam on the basis that she last heard it had been stolen by her.

>>23317158
I'm sure Nyaan will know it's Machu before Machu finds out it's Nyaan. There's no one else she would assume is piloting the Gquax.

>>23317153
>Midnight Reflection
This one is fine for the scene it's used for. It's whimsical enough to characterize Machu as a free, rebellious spirit.

>NOMELON NOLEMON / HALO
This shit has to die in a solar furnace.

notChar better have a NEW red slick-looking MS stashed away somewhere in the superweapon

>Thousands of people died and the entire Earth is in the crosshairs
Hit that funky music, Suisei!

>>23317158
>righteous indignation vs. bitter determination
Nyaan is retreating into herself. She's more like a cornered kitten.

>>23317172
I hate vtubershit so goddamn much.

>>23317172
I don't care is a banger though. I wouldn't mind hearing it while I'm being sucked into a black hole.

>>23317050
Up until the beam of death she just seemed to enjoy having a place to belong in next to Comoli and Challia.
After the beam of death she had a Newtpye moment with a couple of thousand dying minds and seems genuinely mad at whoever fired it.

zams jobbed so fucking hard
with how fast tech moves in UC, they should be mass producing neue ziels or some AOZ designs by now

>>23317188
Zam’s always been weak to smaller craft getting close. They really need escorts.

>>23317172
>>23317136
The Girl in the Space Colony is my favorite of the show thus far, ever since it was put on the trailers and thought they were going to use it as OP, rather than whatever TM Network wannabe they went with.

https://youtu.be/zA7Mtlrlv1I
I think a lot of the song's magic is lost in the version with "actual" lyrics.

Stop... Big Zams are strong and brave...

Considering how integral the bond of Machu and Shuji is to the anime I think that Midnight Reflection, From The Aquarium City and Halo fit as from memory they are about longing for someone but being unable to convey that and connect with them as you would wish, the upbeat tones going along all the melancholy and stuff also feels the style GQuuuuuuX seems to go for

>>23317209
Then again Golliat was defeated by David...

>>23317120
All anyone talked about after ep 6 was bask om.

>>23316922
Is he gonna use the red gundam?

>>23317085
So you don't care about the actual content of the show then.

>>23317287
It’s Shuji, so yes.

>>23317289
yeah, he might as well just watch one of those shitty anime recaps if he has such an attitude

So what's the overall verdict, folks? Good or bad?

>>23317614
I don't know, it isn't finished yet

>>23317614
Good and bad

>>23317614
I like it a lot but it's also my first Gundam. Challia are Char are super cool! But I can't help but feel that the show was originally written for 24 episodes then cut down to 12.

>>23317614
So far very good, but feels pretty rushed in some places, and it could still fuck it up with the ending.

>>23317656
>But I can't help but feel that the show was originally written for 24 episodes then cut down to 12.
Man, even newfags can see that.

>>23316798
>her reputation is fixed.
What about her criminal conduct (stealing money, illegal sports)? She's still going to juvie for those.

>>23317212
>integral the bond of Machu and Shuji
There's no bond between Machu and Shuji. It's onesided longing. We don't see how Shuji feels about anything and doesn't really seem to care.
The more integral part of this show is the juxtaposition of Machu and Nyaan. It mirrors them all the time on almost all of the shows themes.
You're getting misled by them verbally talking about Shuji so much. The narrative fully treats Machu and Nyaan as the protagonist and deuteragonist.
Midnight Reflection is their motif and they each get a thematic insert song in Kienai and Halo.

>>23317819
Slap on the wrist.

>>23317819
Her diplomat dad can pull some strings to solve that.

>>23314760
>>23314767
the funny thing is he isn't even meant to look old in the original, it's just the 70s fashion stache that we associate with old things and people at this point, teens and young adults were rocking that shit back in the day

>>23317096
The OP and ED feel like they were designed for the first half of the series, but because the series is so short, there's no justification for getting a new OP and ED for the second half of the series. As such, the OP sounds too optimistic for the fucked-up war scenario Machu and Nyaan are in, while the ED sounds like it's trolling them with something like a Lalah vision of a different timeline.

With that said, I feel that MSG 0079's OP was something of a troll itself. The song sounds like a rousing cry to war, but then the episodes are fully about the horrors of war and its devastating effects, with the ED being much closer to something trying to help Amuro and co. get through the BS, but even it has a slight air of almost military propaganda from a panicked Bright or the wider Federation nudging the White Base on in combat.

>>23317104
>>23317106
I interpreted that as Machu being Lalah's "Char" in this universe, who would take Lalah to space. And Lalah rejected her.

>>23317614
Shit.

>>23317995
The point is that it was never going to space that mattered. It was always Char that was important to her. She freely chooses to wait for Char, she freely chooses love

>>23317820
Shuji isn't the type of person who talks much so one has to put attention to his actions instead, when talking to Machu his words are mostly his own with a notable lack of "The Red Gundam says...", Machu is the only person he has risked and even damaged the Red Gundam for and he has taken action to reassure Machu when he knew she was feeling troubled while with Nyaan he was only passing the Red Gundam's reassurances, on top of that Machu is the only person Shuji told about the Gundam's wish to look for the Rose and their Newtype in EP3 is notably unique compared to the one they had with Shiiko in EP4

>>23317995
Space is not what is important and instead what matters for Lalah is the officer in the red uniform, she stayed in the Kabas state because she loves him and so waits for their fated reunion as she doesn't know any other way which is a reflection of Machu's own situation as Earth wasn't truly what mattered to her in the end and she went there trying to reunite with Shuji, who she is genuinely in love with going by Lalah's words

>>23318292
I don't think you have enough data points to conclude that.
Machu seems more like a temporary entertainment to Shuji and his actual focus is his real goal, which we don't know yet.
Shuji isn't Machu's real goal either. He was always a stand in for her wanting to escape her gilded cage and looking for something special in life.

>>23317102
are the idols and vtubers in the room with us

>>23318296
Lalah staying behind isn't implied to be positive.
The girls at the manor who love her risked it all so she could be free and she still rejected it.
Instead of being free and possibly looking for Char herself, she chooses to stay trapped, dreaming of the possibilities that may never come true.
The tone of her voice in the "I must stay and wait for him" isn't of determination, it's of resignation to her fate.
It's the same moral as Shiiko's story. If she had been able to focus on the present instead of her dream she would be living a fulfilling life with her husband and son.
From the synopsis it also seems to be the same story as Matthew's dream by Leo Lionni. Instead of focusing on the girl in his dreams, he becomes a painter to make his dream worlds come true himself.

>>23318147
>>23318296
That's what I'm saying. Machu was the person who would save her in this universe, and Lalah rejected her (for the reasons you said).
This is ignoring that she'd be a person of interest had Machu taken her to the Sodon, since she looks exactly like the girl in the Rose of Sharon, as they call Elmeth.

>>23318424
Challia let Machu basically do whatever despite being a wanted person, he would've let Lalah just chill on Sodon too and let her leave if things calm down, since he doesn't want Newtypes to be misused.

>>23317819
she's wanted in side six
if there's no side six by the end of the series (extremely likely), she's not wanted

>>23317819
>>23317821
>>23317824
machu is a terrorist and an accomplice to murder it would be a serious ass-pull if she were to simply be forgiven after saving the day one time

>>23318745
She is a suspect. She did none of these things.
The only evidence they have is her getting a bag of money.

>>23318783
>Machu pulling an OJ Simpson