Thread 23316056

I'm a massive sucker for "love transceding time and space" theme. I think that aspect of show is beautiful.
But at the same I could not give less of a fuck about Machu and Nyaan is in like top 5 most retarded anime characters.
For that amount of episodes I think this should've been a more focused OVA type production instead of pretending to be full-size series on 10 energy drinks. Could've focused more on exploring this alternate reality maybe with Challia (who is getting fucking scraps right now lol) as the MC taking care of Shuji before Char re-enters the story and navigating the internal Zabi power plays instead of pointless clan battle shit.

Why does lalah love char? Because he saved her from a brothel? That isn't love. That's infatuation. If she knew anything about the kind of man Char really is she would not 'love' him. Just like if gcucks Challia saw CCA char he would be backing Amuro.

>Set in 0085
>Only suits shown that aren't from the OYW are the Quuuuuux/Fred, Psyco Gundam, and Hambrabi
>The latter two are cameos that get shot down the episode they appear in
My biggest gripe with the show. If the show doesn't end with Bask Om showing up with a huge EFF fleet with Marasais and Galbaldy Betas and shit to investigate the huge-ass space cannon that blew up A Baoa Qu I'm gonna be pissed.

>>23331504
Get over it, Amuro, it's been 50 years.

>>23331516
Your mistake is thinking Khara actually cares about any of these characters and factions enough to imagine how they would interact in an alternate history instead of just pumping out references and dumping them afterwards

>>23331504
>Why does lalah love char?
Because he looks like a prince from a shoujo manga.

>>23331504
we're talking about an early 80s cartoon designed to sell toys to children. You just kind of assume a lot of the love happened offscreen and hope someone makes a shoujo manga spinoff someday.

My question is
Why is the omnicidal maniac portrayed as the good guy protagonist

This universe has a right to live and have agency for their fate.

Just send lalah and the elmeth to deep fucking space so no one can fuck with her and endanger other people's lives.

>>23331672
>Why is the omnicidal maniac portrayed as the good guy
He's not.

>>23331504
keep in mind lalah is a woman and char is a handsome, confident, mysterious, charismatic, high status, and deadly man. you think women care about personality and whether or not you`re a good person? this also to some extent explains machoos infatuation with hobo. i dont think women are capable of love unless they have been with a man for year. love for women has to start with infatuation.

>>23331687
Then why does he have THE rx 78 on his side

>>23331709
which is probably why 80% of divorce is initiated by the woman. infatuation wears off eventually and if she hasn`t developed a strong sense of love in that time or doesn`t have children or think she needs a mans help raising them, the she is going to want to chase a new infatuation.

men can go from infatuation to love more quickly then women can and i dont think men realize women are not the same. i dont think women realize their infatuations are not love unless she has been in love before

>>23331718
He conjured it with time jannie magic because it's Char's kryptonite.

>>23331709
>>23331725
these are both me, im just continuing my thoughts and not samefagging

so anyways when taking this into account the motivations of machoo chasing after and being obsessed with hobo and lalah chasing after and being obsessed with char, starts to make more sense. its not bad writing, it only seems like bad writing if you dont understand women. these are two naive in their own ways women who are deeply infatuated with two men and likely have never been in love before or had a bigger infatuation in their lives and think its deep love.

>>23331504
Lalah loves Char because she can see his potential as a force of change. And wants to protect him. The problem was that Amuro appeared and they have a even more deep newtype collection and that make Lalah weaver between the two.

>>23331725
>which is probably why 80% of divorce is initiated by the woman.
You shouldn't have cheated and now you're turning /m/ into your personal blog lol

>>23331842
women are usually the ones who cheat though. they fall into infatuation with a new man and so they sabotage their relationship with current man she has fallen out of infatuation with to chase new man. but the kind of man women become infatuated with are chads and all the chads who are likely to settle already did so women are just lusting after the kind of man that cheats and such women (like yourself) therefore assume all men are cheaters because its the only kind of man shes into.

youre mid, chad doesnt settle for mids. lower your standards princess because chads are just going to keep cheating on you. they get pussy thrown at them all day and if they were the loyal types they wouldnt even still be on the dating market as chads they would have settled with a girl who isnt mid like you are years ago.

>>23331853
He mad lel
I suggest you leave this board entirely. You're polluting it with your frustration blogposting.

>>23331858
more like you were triggered by my posts into responding with insults, a strawman about me cheating which i have never done, and no real argument to debunk my premise. while i accurately summed up the plot both of this anime and of your life.

>>23331874
>you were triggered
And that's why you're writing multiple-paragraph rageposts about stuff unrelated to /m/? Gee, no wonder women ditch you right and left.

>>23331893
it was related to the plot stupid. i`m explaining how machoos infatuation with hobo and lalahs infatuation with char is actually realistic to how women think and not bad writing. since the entire plot revolves around these infatuations its relevant. you wouldnt respond if you werent upset because you`re a woman and you would have an argument if you could actually debunk anything im saying.

>>23316087
>>23320245
Do people actually hate world building now?
That's a shame cause as a lorefag that's always been my appeal for mecha

>>23326771
That's not even the point that poster was criticizing.
The girls being deliberately vapid teenagers does not nesesitate bottlenecked exposition dumps.

>>23331746
>Time Jannie
I knew this reminded me of something

>>23331905
Dude you can explain how characters can end up infatuated with other characters without devolving into a schizoid Alpha-male rant about women.
Not even Tomino was this crazy, this anon >>23331893
is correct you're polluting a normal thread with your rage over not being able to get a date.
If you want dating advice then go to a different board or hire a therapist.

>>23332188
>Dude you can explain how characters can end up infatuated with other characters without devolving into a schizoid Alpha-male rant about women.
clearly i can`t
what i said was true anyways, which is all that matters

why would i want a date? knowing what i know about women i`d rather not bother

After this show is done I'll make a video essay where the thumbnail is Lalah with a black bar censoring her eyes and Hideaki Anno in the corner titled "This Gundam anime... BROKE me"
It will be 40 minutes long, actually make that 3 hours

>>23316056 (OP)
Show could have been kino with a 50 episode pace

First 20 episodes: Clan battle shit in space
>Some 0079 callbacks like the Tri-Stars, old veterans doing clan battles for adrenaline and money, etc.
>More clearly flesh out the relationship between Machu, Nyaan, and shuji, as well as the Pomeranian team
>Buildup the Federation spook shit and cyber-new types more (Gundam Alex was built in secret on Side 6, Federation in this universe should also be doing shady shit there)
>Culminates with the attempted Kycillia assasination and split between Machu, Nyaan, and Shuji.

Next 20 Episodes: The obligatory Universal Century Earth Arc
>Machu joins Challia Bull’s crew and grows into her role as the GQUX pilot
>Nyaan gets taken in by Kycillia and groomed to be the G Fred pilot
>More buildup for the Lala reveal, both teams are hunting down leads on the Rose of Sharon
>Federation tries to interfere with both Challia and Kycillia’s plans, more Titan callbacks and new takes on Zeta suits
>Arc culminates with three way fight between Challia and Kycillia’s teams and the Federation remnants on Earth
>Machu and Nyaan clash for the first time, fighting over their misunderstandings around Shuji and the Kira Kira
>Nyaan barely wins the fight thanks to the G Fred’s all-range attacks, but Challia’s team and Machu are able to get away
>Gihren’s Zeon forces swoop in at the last second to “save” Kycillia, defeat the Federation forces attacking them, and deliver the Elmeth to the Yoman’gtho

>>23331914
>Do people actually hate world building now?
Newfags/modern anime audiences do, they don't wanna see shows waste time on stupid things like worldbuilding and character development, they just want instant hype action, twists after twists and a plot that moves at a breakneck pace or else they get bored.

>>23332375
Final 10 Episodes: The Zeon Civil War
>Kycillia and Gihren engage in heated diplomacy on the Yoman’gtho
>Gihren wants to use it to wipe out the humans on Earth, Kycillia pretends to go along with it
>A source on the inside of Yoman’gtho (Char) sends Challia the information to disable the Omega Psycommu on Lala
>Kycillia sends Nyaan to secretly redirect the beam to eliminate A’Baoa Qu
>Kycillia and Gihren, on the command bridge of the Yoman’gtho, watch it fire and see it destroy Gihren’s units on the far side of the moon.
>Right before Kycillia assasinates him, Gihren, in shock, orders all of his men to kill Kycillia’s forces
>Massive battle breaks out in space between Gihren and Kycillia’s forces, with close quarters fighting in the super weapon itself
>Challia’s team and Machu use the chaos to infiltrate the Yoman’gtho
>Episode 11 of the show plays out the same way as before
>Whatever the hell happens in Episode 12 plays out

>>23316089
>Kino's Journey
It's unfinished
>Lain
not coherent
>13 episodes
So, no 12.
Ping Pong was the only decent example.

>>23331914
Don't mind them. They are just /tv/ tourists broken over valid criticism to Tolkien.

>>23331853
I hate blackpill faggots so goddamn much.

>>23331672
>omnicidal maniac portrayed as the good guy protagonist
Because that's how it works in real life.

>>23331504
He saved her from misery.

>>23331718
He stole it, dumbass.

>>23332434
its hardly a pill, just obvious common sense. i wouldnt even call that black since none of it matters anyways. my actual blackpills would probably wreck you were you not protected by an infallible aura of willful ignorance.

>>23316084
Re: Cutie Honey accomlished it in three

Would you anons have preferred this?

>>23332201
Dude you genuinely seem like a miserable person to be around. It isn't normal at all for someone to think any of that shit, much less inject it into a conversation about mecha. I implore you to reconsider your entire life and probably see a therapist. Either way, no one wants to read your schizo blogposts.

>>23332492
Grandpa is fine, I don't understand why it got all the zoomies kvetching.

This could've been decent. But it's so all over the place with it's schizophrenic pacing.
>Alt timeline where Zeon wins the OYW
Background theme that isn't really explored well since we skip straight into Machu's life and we lose all the political drama that could've been done.
>Machu's story
Interesting beginning, especially the conflict with her mom and trying to be her own person but it's sidelined to love triangle with manic pixie fuccboi
>Nyaan
Another interesting story dealing with how spacenoids fare in this new timeline that aren't following the law or are refugees. Working to skirt the law and help this gundam team win Clan battles was a good idea. They could've done a lot with her set up as somewhat of an infiltrator/spy but she gets diluted to love interest/antagonist who is way to obsessed with Shuji. It's a repeat of Katz and that faggot was annoying with that shit in Zeta too.
>Clan battles
Started out well especially the Witch battle and gave insight into the OYW in this timeline's affects on the EFF side.
>Teetons
This was the biggest dropped ball because we could've had the Titans act like Neo-Zeon using Guerilla tactics to subvert Zeon's operations. Bask is shown and I was legitimately excited as he could've been a wrench into the clan battle. They even had the resources to build a fucking Psyco Gundam and I was looking forward to what they would do but it's just a one and done call back.

This show is odd because it wants to be several things at once and doesn't have the time or space to accomplish any of it. Also they just throw in callbacks to older shows so people can soeyjak on social media. Already see retards on youtube with Beyond the Time and doing their usual WHO HERE FROM THAT EPISODE.

>>23332492
higeman's counterattack

>>23332494
>Grandpa
reddit
Bringing RX-78-2 in to this timeline is like bringing a Sherman to fight in Desert Storm. Also using BTT instead of any of the songs from the original show was retarded.

>>23332492
They should have played Meteor and have the strike freedom fly in
Or maybe play over the rainbow and have Unicorn fly in

>>23332498
It's a hundred Tiktoks stitched into a 1 cour anime.

>>23332493
social shaming tactics have no power here. i see countless posts saying how machoos character motivations chasing after the hobo make no sense so im just explaining how it makes perfect sense and is accurately scripted if you understand female infatuations. i obviously dont care whats normal, normies are fucking oblivious. any normie therapist would be too. i am accurately describing the reality you dont want to admit is all. i implore you to stop being a bitch about it

>>23332498
>schizophrenic pacing
Stopped reading right there, try making a point without using buzzwords like a retard.

>>23332440
And? Its always been a symbol of the good guy. Even 00 had to mutate it to not be THE ONE

This one is literally THE ONE

>>23332544
Good
Your opinion would be dogshit anyway

>>23330813
You just saw lalah compression reality into a bubble, changing some clothes is like nothing at that point

>>23332557
It's not about the logistics of it, for some reason americans get mad when there is callbacks or elements from previous shows brought back. Things like cinemasins and redlettermedia have poisoned their enjoyment of cartoons.

>>23332557
and it broke the suspension of disbelief. i dont know how newtype reality compression bubbles work but i can suspend my disbelief and assume it makes sense somehow but magically changing outfits is too much and i cant even imagine there being an explanation. its just magic and there is just no place for a magical girl style outfit change in a gundam show

>>23332560
no its a cool uniform, thats not the issue at all. he should have brought it from home and taken it out of a backpack and put it on. the issue is it fucking materialized around him, every molecule pulled from thin air and precisely arranged around a moving target to form a perfect outfit. and thats fucking retarded, this isnt sailor moon

>>23332560
Callbacks, like anything, can be good or bad. Unicorn having the Sleeves use old MS from across the series is a good callback to those shows done properly as the Sleeves were scrounging anything they could get and that a lot of the pilots would be old aces in their preferred suits. Magically slapping Char's uniform on just because the director couldn't have a scene where he goes to retrieve it or even just have a duffel bag on him with it inside when he escaped the control room was just lazy.

>>23332570
>Reality manipulation is fine but THIS reality manipulation is too far

Will Gundam Eight be any better? I hope so

>>23332593
yeah actually, basically every weird newtype thing before narrative was just telepathy or telekinesis, usual esper stuff.
Then Narrative gave newtype control over space time and Gquuuuuux made Lalah into a sleeping god imprisoned in extra dimensional rose thorns

>>23332597
Yeah, especially once the Gundam is revealed to go berserk when at risk of being destroyed

>>23332593
time travel or teleporting across universes is easier to suspend my disbelief on then magically materializing a uniform into existence, absolutely.

>>23332597
male lead is automatically better
if you write a good female lead its annoying and people rightly complain that they just stuck a female name and body on a part written for how a man behaves.

write a realistic female character based on how woman actually behave and its annoying because women are annoying. and people who dont understand women will complain her character motivations make no sense.

just make the mc a man and stop trying to sell plastic robots to women, they`re largely not interested and never will be.

>>23332647
yeah, at least say throw some bullshit like it's a quantum something or other, not just "a Lalah did it"

>>23332657
exactly. otherwise its just pic related and thats lazy writing for a science fiction.
>replicated molecules imposed on a quantum matrix simulated in the mobile suits supercomputer via cybernetic influence and projected on to char with particles pulled from another universe by kira kira and cemented in place by the observer effect
or better yet just have char carry the uniform in a duffel bag because no matter how its explained its still retarded

>>23332539
And I'm saying you sound mentally ill. I'm not talking about being a normie I'm talking about being a functional human being instead of barging into a mecha thread and tying a show's criticism to your pathetic views on reality.. You're not describing anything, you've just been blogposting about your blackpill take on women and pretending that it's relevant to the conversation at all. Go fix yourself to the point where you can hold a conversation you waste of oxygen.

>>23332832
and i`m saying you`re a normie
you don`t ask yourself "is this true?"
you ask yourself "will others be ok with me thinking this is true?"
its the reason all your arguments are appeals to social acceptance. you`re a normie. barely sentient

>>23332845
Way to strawman what I'm saying. I'm not claiming that you should deny some known truth to fit in. I'm saying you're not only wrong, but that your incorrect view is being obnoxiously pushed onto a thread. It's about not being an annoyingly pathetic dipshit, something you've been chastised for before in this thread.
But I know your type. The lamentations on women in an unrelated board, the spamming of the term "normie": you're a tourist. A reddit transplant circa 2016, pushed here because you're too autistic to fit in with normal people and yet unable to acclimate because of the depths of your vapid stupidity.

There are two kinds of autists in this world, those who obsess over niche media and those who smear shit on their walls. You're the second kind.

>>23332868
it was three posts and then you retards responding are the ones who keep dragging it out and youre responding because youre mad and youre mad because its true. ad hom me all you like buddy its water off a ducks back. call me every name you can think of but youre not really mad at me, youre mad at the truth you dont want to hear.

just 3 posts explaining how the character motivations so many pan as unrealistic are actually completely realistic and in line with how women think. you could have ignored them and that would have been the end of it but you didnt

I live in Japan.

Beyond the Time being played was a big deal here. It's actually not about whether the show is "good" or not. Americans are trying to wrap their head around "what went wrong?" or "what kind of story are they trying to tell?"
For the Japanese, it's not something like that at all. Gundam is so deeply baked into the Japanese consciousness that it has instead become a kind of event; it's not about having a work to show other people later, it's about a cultural and trans-temporal sharing of ideas. Like a Zeknova. Kids born in 1988 when Beyond the Time originally released are able to re-live their parents' love for Gundam. Everyone acknowledges that QGuuuuuuX is essentially about messed up kids becoming the playthings of greater powers, but that's just what Gundam has always been. It's neither about "can we destroy Gundam?" nor "should we carry Gundam with us forever?" it's more like, "Ah, so the next generation understands, too."

>>23332879
That's a lot of words to say that Japs lost their standards when Gundam became a traditional part of their culture

>>23332886
That's a very American way to look at it.
Doesn't the same apply to Americans and Star Wars?

Look at it this way. GQuuuuuuX doesn't retroactively ruin or change 0079 in any way. It's just more content.

>>23332896
no. the new star wars movies sucked so they hated it for sucking

>>23332896
I'm not a burger
And about your other point it does retroactively change 0079 in several ways you've either not cared to notice or are ignoring, all the changes for the worse

>>23332896
>That's a very American way to look at it.
>GQuuuuuuX doesn't retroactively ruin or change 0079 in any way. It's just more content.
THIS is a very american way to look at it.

>>23332904
>And about your other point it does retroactively change 0079 in several ways you've either not cared to notice or are ignoring, all the changes for the worse
It doesn't change 0079 in anyway since even "the other side" isn't actual UC (Elmeth not damaged).

>>23332873
I can see I've struck a nerve. You can desperately call me mad all you'd like, doesn't change the fact that you're a derailing tourist.
But I'll hand you this, you've got a point in that your original post should have been ignored. I'll stop responding to you so as to not derail this thread any further, individuals like you should just be told to kill themselves and left at that.

>>23332923
you haven`t struck a nerve by feeding me your butthurt responses. and i`m glad you`ve finally learned your lesson and you`ll cease your futile attempt to assert your normie coded worldview in opposition to common sense truths that offend you. shutting the fuck up will do you some good and spare us all your woke nonsense. it was 3 posts before you started replying and so it was you who derailed the thread by trying to police my misogynist but accurate comments with your white knight simping and pathetic social shaming tactics in lieu of any real arguments.

>>23332879
Yes Yes. Tell me more how Japan accepted Gundam AGE.

>>23326771
They were never actually friends, and their affections toward Shuji were one-sided, but a good series would actually spend time throughout fleshing out and exploring these facts. Upon Shuji's return, learning about what he's really like would have more time, both in episodes and in the series, to resonate and contribute to the plot. Instead, Shuji's back and now they almost immediately have to kill him to stop him from destroying their universe.

>>23332492
this would have been kino and instantly redeemed this garbage heañ

>>23330800
From what I've heard about his interview statements, I agree with your assessment. In Zeta, Kamille was clearly the main character who had a lot of agency, and in the moments where he didn't it was clearly the point that his lack of agency spoke to the hardship and cruelty of the setting. Char was a major character but a mentor figure still trying to solve his own issues, and Amuro later had a role akin to that as well. This continued into ZZ, where Judau was the clear MC. Char's Counterattack made Amuro and Char take up primary roles again, but there was still a major focus on the most recent generation, and in particular, how Char's ideals and those who'd be drawn to them, either directly or tangentally, were total fuck-ups and the world was facing its biggest crisis ever both literally and figuratively.

In GQuacks, it feels like both Machu and Nyaan are Quess, which means they're automatically fucked. There could still be a good story if the plot was about how they ruin themselves through their own bad choices and the terrible environment caused by Zeon winning the One Year War, but the plot occupies a ton of its time with OYW characters being the movers and shakers of the story. As a result, Machu and Nyaan aren't able to ever actually flex being the main characters, to have in-depth explorations of how fucked up their circumstances and the consequences of their bad decisions are.

There's not a point where it feels like they've fully grown beyond the Quess role, of being a secondary character in the overall narrative who's more symbolic of the new generation fucking up. Machu and Nyaan have at times grown into a Reccoa kind of role, but Reccoa herself was still a secondary character, and they each have less time, both in the pacing and outright, to explore this development than Reccoa did in Zeta.

The MCs are tagalongs and not even written to develop and realize that.

>>23331853
You're assuming that you're actually responding to a woman on an anonymous image board for mecha anime. You're mad as fuck, anon, and you lost that conversation.

>>23333063
>heañ
I knew the retards complaining about GQuuuuuuX were ESL.

>>23333078
of course you`re a woman. and it`s cute you`re pretending to be someone else after you said in your last pot you would stop responding. but you have to keep responding, because you`re so mad. i was ready to drop this after my first 3 posts you`re the one that keeps dragging it out while arguing like a woman

>>23332879
nobody cares whether japanese alphas and zoomers are so.yjacking to nostalgia bait like braindead MCU fans do in the states. imagine basing your belief on whether a show is good or not on something as retarded as this, or whether japs like it in general.

ywnbj.

>>23333072
>The MCs are tagalongs and not even written to develop and realize that.
I think they never even existed in the original draft, which was all about the old UC characters being positioned in an AU and trying to fix it. I think they are in the Katz role of causing some minor stuff and letting other, more important characters, namely Shuuji, Char (and possibly Challia), to take the lead in shaping the world.

>>23332879
That's very interesting anon, thanks for sharing.

>>23332879
It's not 'love for gundam', it's love of the original UC storyline.
It's exactly the same as boomers sóyfacing when disney made new Star Wars, which everyone laughs at, deservedly so.
Granted, GCucks at least is made by people who actually like the original Gundam, as opposed to disney slop which is written by nepo babies who give zero fucks and just project their own shit onto characters.

>>23333291
>It's not 'love for gundam', it's love of the original UC storyline
That's what 'love for gundam' is, seedshit can take a hike.

>>23333078
>>23333235
Anon that's literally not me, I keep my word when I say shit even if it's to morons like you.
Image for proof, then again images can be edited so think what you want. I actually forgot you accused that poster of being a girl but reading your posts again you really are a schizo.

>>23320441
>>23320452
Lain's anime and game are different canons. You can't understand one with the other unless you're talking like, general themes. You don't need to experience both unless you want to.
The game has more explanation and exposition but it's for a different narrative.

Well according to the leaked storyboards Tsurumaki and Anno never gave a damn about their world.

>>23333355
incredible. those guilty are often madder than the innocent when being accused

not only are you so mad about being called out that you tried to fake proof, your proof isnt even proof and its not about editing. your screenshot doesnt even include both your recent post and the previous post you say is not you.

either you`re too stupid to understand how this was supposed to prove anything or you hoped i wouldn`t examine the image too closely. either way its what id expect from a woman even down to yet another social shaming tactic there at the end of the post. classic woman

>>23333429
You are very clearly a reddit tourist given by the way you type, and certainly a moron given how your only "arguments" this entire time have been shoving your blackpilled rants into conversations where no one wants them and demanding counterarguments (accusing those you disagree with of social shaming and being a woman).

At this point I'm only responding to give that anon a reprieve from your accusation, since you're dumb enough to think others wouldn't disagree with you even though I started speaking to you after others called out your bullshit. It saddens me that I share a board with you and I already said my piece earlier, soon enough we'll need poster IDs like the other boards to stop creatures such as yourself from jumping to conspiracy. Either way, go ahead and have your last word in the conversation, I'm checking out to actually talk about giant robots.

>>23333450
i made 3 posts, everything after that you wanted and asked for by responding all butthurt, you could have stopped responding to bring an end to the horror.

lol another image that fails to show me both the newer posts and the older posts you deny are also you. you really have no idea how this is supposed to work.

are you actually checking out this time or are you going to pretend to be a third person so you can keep responding?

>>23332498
It's an anniversary special. Some alibi plot with UC cameos and easter eggs that culminates in classic 0079 Char vs classic grandpa Gundam. The new (main) characters are just there to market it to a new generation.

>>23332560
Mother fucker the SW prequels had some good callbacks to the old movies. It's when it's badly done like with the zSW sequels that we get mad.

>>23333370
>The entire point of the show really was sucking off the original and showing off glup shittos
Gleak.

Lots of people in here with struck nerves

>>23333370
So was kira kira meant to be a metaphor for drug/sex addiction?

>>23333516
more like distractions/social media fame.

Apparently storyboards for the final episode leaked. Does anyone have them?

>>23333235
I'm a different poster. Now you're thinking that a woman actually goes on /m/ AND that anyone who disagrees with you is just a samefag. Your initial post about bratty teenagers' mentalities wasn't all bad, but you've found a way to still completely scuttle whatever you were trying to say. Step back from the keyboard and rethink some things, anon.

>>23335560
At least make some effort to sound like a different person, but it still you I can tell. Nobody else here talks like you do, like a woman.

Yeah for some reason there is a woman here. Women can`t be into gundam? Now who is the sexist? Still me obviously but there are some rare women into gundam, like yourself, perhaps brought in by all the girl centric storylines and characters in recent shows. You`re here trying to defend those dumb girl centric storylines and you don`t like the spot on way I deconstructed the characters motivations while also deconstructing women themselves.

You couldn`t address my arguments or counter any of my points so your strategy was to insult me and use social shaming tactics to try and ensure others understood my opinions were not socially acceptable and therefore wrong and bad. Pretending to be three different people was part of your strategy. The "proof" you offered that it isn`t you amounting to nothing but gaslighting and screenshots that dont prove anything when you look at them.

And you think that worked, thats the scuttling you refer to, you believe you`ve succeeded into baiting me to scuttle myself. To impale myself on your spike of social shaming, and with that kill my arguments. As a woman that is one of your go to strategies, you do it by instinct probably not even planning it. But it doesn`t work here, on an anonymous forum full of largely nerdy antisocial men who are immune to your tactics. Caring more about what was said than who said is part of the culture here. You have no power here, your mean girl style petty feminized power play politics don`t work here.

Even if people agree I look bad in all these posts it doesn`t matter, my original 2 posts ITT which would have been my only posts ITT had you not kept responding, stand on their own. And people can read them here and decide on their own if it makes sense irregardless of whether they like my tone or not.

>>23331709
>>23331725

>>23316056 (OP)
more episodes might have helped but that doesn't fix how flawed the characterization and writing and world building is
not to mention they wasted a considerable amount of the runtime for the sake of capturing G-gundam vibes? references? Kira Kira crying sessions?
its a shit show

>>23333815
It's nothing but implies Yuri end so people who hated wfm will absolutely turn on this show come Tuesday

>>23316056 (OP)
It should had been double the length and clan battles should have lasted half as long.

>>23316084
And no one was able to provide him the examples.

>>23335753
kira kira crying in the rain was good

>>23335833
kira Kira crying in the rain was funny

>>23316056 (OP)
one main character. steals a clan battle gunam cause something went wrong and it added nothing to the story, gets spotted and taken in by zeon forces
basically we have inverted Amuro serving on the gundam white base by episode 2 or episode 3 if they keep the flash back

>>23338082
>gundam white base
as apposed to the other white base?

>>23338108
white base with crew analogous to 79s

>>23316056 (OP)
it needed less hype moments and aura references
it feels like it just brings in stuff from previous shows to remind you that it's gundam, only to haphazardly shuffle them out the next episode
you can only do shared universe shit when you're supplied with more episodes, so you have more breathing space for both the original shit and the old shit. i'm doubting that these fuckers have actually watched zeta gundam because zeta amuro is the shining example of doing something interesting with your old character cameo without having him take over the show. even char's there but he doesn't take the spotlight from kamille and co despite being a regular-ass cast member
god this shit is so fucking ass why does nobody know how to write mecha anymore

>>23316056 (OP)
it needed more episodes to flesh out Machu, Nyaan and Shuuji. I hate them, I legit hate them. I hate that we had to follow these stupid ass characters.

>>23343036
Ignore the three stooges and tell yourself this is the Challia bull show.

The 2D mecha was nice.

>>23332388
>we want the GoT audience

Everybody in this universe seems to have brain damage.

>I-IT JUST NEEDED MORE EPISODES, YOU KNOW N-NOTHING ABOUT ANIME!!!!11!!111
FLCL had six. Tsurushitty has no excuse

>>23316056 (OP)
It's good that the show doesn't bog itself down with exposition that takes away from the character drama. Macross Frontier TV is awesome but it had this same issue.
>its characters
They're fine. It's just that the show isn't being direct about them.

>>23332492
At least it would have actually felt like an ending...

>23332471
Men cheating more is one of the most consistently replicable pieces of social science statistics across all literature. You don't have any "truth" whatsoever. You are just angry and bitter.

>>23326735
>all of this mystery about who Shuji is,
I still dont know who the fuck Shuji is.
Is he from some random destroyed universe?

When the fuck did he meet Char, Lalah, etc?

>>23316056 (OP)
it needed the full twin peaks: the return treatment.

>>23327229
bravern needed more than 12 episodes

>>23343640
It's funny but it makes sense, being able to glimpse true freedom from yielding to despair and emptiness gave Challia the perspective to see who's fighting with something to protect, and who's fighting without anything to lose. Because Char and Challia are much alike, Challia can see that Char, without anything to protect, will eventually succumb to the same despair he felt and threaten everything, like Kycilia did. So either Challia kills him now to both preserve Char's own dignity and to protect everyone, or to threaten him away from attempting to ever lead himself. And Char got the message, he seems to have left the military to go smooch Lalah. CCA averted, thanks Challia.

They're probably still friends even after that.

That really was a gundam series of all time.

>>23345158
I wouldn't even call that animated group jerk off session a series

>>23316069
You could give Metallic Rouge or GQuuuuX 1000 episodes and they'd still be nonsense. Pretentious nonsense in Metallic Rouge's case.

KING GAINER makes no fucking sense and barely follows any actual continuity but you faggots love it because the do the monkey in the OP.

>>23322033
Have we really reached the "GWitch sucked but at least it wasn't GKEKS" phase already?

I'm 35 years old.
never in my life have I been so disappointed by an anime that I wanted so, so badly to like as I was by this show.
I was so excited for Machu and the GQX, I thought the fight direction and characterization was great in the first episode
then the whole series turns into endless blueballs. Machu spends less than TWELVE FUCKING MINUTES in combat in the GQX in this entire fucking series! that's less than 5% of total screentime!

>>23332492
Amazing restraint not having Shuji show up in Strike Freedom

>>23345273
I fucking hate Suletta but at least she's a fucking Gundam pilot who actually gets to fight
Machu doesn't get to do ANY FUCKING THING in what is supposedly her own show until the LAST GODDAMN EPISODE where she gets a five minute fight (not counting newtype space time) and then that's it.
it's not an exaggeration to say there were individual episodes of Gwitch where Suletta got to do more than Machu did in an entire motherfucking series

>>23332597
>>23332614
>>23332654
This is a manga, retards. The next Gundam is also going to be a woman.

>>23345293
I actually want that to happen because I want a Gundam series with a female protagonist that is trying to actually be a fucking Gundam series, instead of a Gundam series that is trying to be Revolutionary Girl Utena or a Gundam series that is trying to be Rebuild of Evangelion.

>>23326771
aged like shit

>>23331853
the blackpill /r9k/ brainworms are some of the worst shit ive ever read on the internet.

dude, I am 365lbs. I have never struggled to date attractive and fun women. I have never been single for long in between relationships if I feel like I am ready for them either. I have never been cheated on and I do not make a ton of money. You just have to take ownership of yourself and accept that you're in charge of your destiny. Your best days are ahead of you if you go out and get them. Don't let your resentment harden your heart to whats out there waiting for you.


>>23332597
people forget that some of the most interesting and memorable gundam moments are when they explore different genres and try to fuse them with the concept of mobile suits. I think it's going to be weird and questionable on release but ultimately age well.

>>23332492
No bringing Afro Amuro

>>23332597
>>23332614
>>23332654
>>23345408
>generic black haired asian male
Kuso.

>>23345340
Due to bad writing.

I've been watching anime long enough where I've seen
>this was stretched out to 4 cours
>this was condensed into 5 ova episodes
>this should have been a movie
>this should have been a two cour series
and everything and everywhere in between. But I am a little tired of the current thing, where everything has to be round hole square pegged into one or a split cour at most.

You guys know why right? It's always economics and the current economics is that studios, both domestic and foreign, are booked out for a year and a half on average now. But they aren't always booked solid, ie 4 out of the next 6 seasons a studio may be spoken for. So to get all the players to align with everyone's other commitments it's easiest to just try to get everyone together for one cour. This is also the reason split cour is more common these days.

>>23316056 (OP)
I'm so happy this whack ass fan fic is over.

>>23316084
>Mobile Suit Gundam: War in the Pocket
>cyberpunk edgerunners
>ping pong
>the tatami galaxy
>Mobile Suit Gundam: Thunderbolt
It’s not about length, it’s about a focused story. Gquuuux tried to write three different stories: clan battle coming of age story, Zeon Cold War/Civil war military thriller, newtype dream timeline jumping fantasy tale. It tells none of these in a complete or satisfactory way, and focusing on even one would’ve been great. It’s a shame given the excellent art direction. I actually liked F91 more because while it has ass pacing, the plot isn’t schizophrenic and impossible

I would actually liked this universe to supersedes UC
I never liked mainline UC stories, especially after Turn A and GReco confirmed nothing ever changed, things went sideways and gone to shit anyway despite everyone's best efforts.
Like what's the point if the future is already set in stone?
Also 00 is definitely not part of dark history, it made 0 sense

>>23326706
This is my favorite answer to the question, because meguca gets increasingly nonsensical the minute it goes beyond the 11 episode runtime.

>>23316208
and as far as im aware the sales are dogshit. stores cant move em and aren't ordering more anytime soon

>>23345969
>Also 00 is definitely not part of dark history, it made 0 sense
Too bad.