Never have I fell in love (and nutted) to a /m/ couple more than these two.

Didn't ask.

For me, it's still Kira and Lacus

>>23317226 (OP)
For me it's Shinji and Misato

>>23317226 (OP)
Oh you sweet summer child.

>>23317280
Based.

>>23317226 (OP)
For me, it's them.

>>23317226 (OP)
Kira: Same.

>>23317226 (OP)
They are not a couple. It's a mirage, a complete fiction. While they might have feelings for each other, they aren't together.
Neither are Athrun and Cagalli, now we're at it.

>>23318994
What are you even talking about

Tusk and Ange are better

>>23319036
"Ship-baiting". Bandai releases art of them as a couple, but it's not a thing in the actual shows.

>>23317708
Incest is wincest.

>>23319062
>it's not a thing in the actual shows.
But... it is a thing in the actual shows. Luna and Shinn are together, as are Athrun and Cagalli

>>23319140
>But... it is a thing in the actual shows.
No, they are not romantic partners. It only appears that way, but there's no relationship in either case.

While there was something between Athrun and Cagalli at the end of the first series, that was curtailed by her "responsibilities" as queen of Orb and is not coming back. And even if Lunamaria and Shinn have feelings for each other, they aren't a couple.

>>23319166
>While there was something between Athrun and Cagalli at the end of the first series
And in Destiny and in Freedom
> And even if Lunamaria and Shinn have feelings for each other, they aren't a couple.
They kiss in Destiny, formally become a couple in the drama CDs and are still together in Freedom

Stop posting complete bullshit please

>>23319166
About your screencap...

>>23319166
>they aren't a couple.

>>23319166
>that was curtailed by her "responsibilities" as queen of Orb and is not coming back

>>23319191
>And in Destiny
No, there was not. Fukuda and Morosawa spent the post-Destiny interviews making it clear that Athrun and Cagalli weren't (more precisely, couldn't) be together.
Or what, you think the thing with Meyrin came from nowhere?

>Stop posting complete bullshit please
You first.

>>23319220

>>23319224
Fukuda explicitly said that Cagalli and Athrun didn't break up, that she put the ring away as a means of locking herself into being Chief Representative Athha instead of Cagalli for a time, and deliberately added this in the remaster. Fukuda also stated that Cagalli plans to step down as representative once Toya is ready for the job, and she's going to be with Athrun in private life.

>>23319232
>Fukuda explicitly said that Cagalli and Athrun didn't break up, that she put the ring away as a means of locking herself into being Chief Representative Athha instead of Cagalli for a time
>and she's going to be with Athrun in private life.
Where did he say that? Where?

Here's the full archive of SEED interviews. Point it out: https://teruzuki.dreamwidth.org/684.html

>>23319232
Nothing about Cagalli in Destiny makes sense:
>why does she have to get married to Yuna?
>why did she completely capitulate to the Seirans if she's the reigning monarch?
>why is being together with Athrun somehow incompatible with her role as Orb's monarch?
>why does she suddenly have enough spine to confront Yuna during Operation Fury for betraying Orb's principles of neutrality, but not before?

The only reasonable explanation I can think of is that Orb is full of anti-Coordinator Blue Cosmos-type sympathizers, but the series is never explicit about this.

>>23319238
>Fukuda explicitly said that Cagalli and Athrun didn't break up, that she put the ring away as a means of locking herself into being Chief Representative Athha instead of Cagalli for a time
On your page, it's under [JP] Fukuda Live Event April 2024. First thing listed under it.
>and she's going to be with Athrun in private life.
Interview in the April 2024 issue of Monthly Hobby Japan

The novel wasn't written by Fukuda and at this point, you just have to accept that those relationships are real, regardless of what a past interview might have implied.

>>23319249
Arranged marriage.
Because the Seirans were able to make arguments that she found irrefutable at the time and she had no support because Athrun ran off to rejoin ZAFT without even consulting her.
Yuna isn't a reliable source of info and he was trying hard to isolate Cagalli at the time.
She sees that her indecisiveness and the Seirans' political maneuvering caused Orb to be even more involved with the war than the last one, and gets to talk with the Murasame pilots they rescued near Crete.

>>23319275
>Yuna isn't a reliable source of info and he was trying hard to isolate Cagalli at the time.
She knows what she is doing by joining forces with the Seirans is not right either for her or the nation's interests, and goes with it regardless.
The writing could've had an out if she had been brainwashed Shinn-style into believing Yuna's crap.

>and she had no support because Athrun ran off to rejoin ZAFT without even consulting her.
Athrun is a personal bodyguard, so Cagalli doesn't have any emotional support (other than her brother, Lacus, Murrue and a good chunk of Orb's armed forces, who are Attha-ists to the core). Politically, however, she's alone: nobody was buying what she was selling.
This is what complicates matters: who is in charge of Orb? Cagalli as monarch? Unato Seiran as Prime Minister? How far do her powers as "Chief Representative" go? Can she fire the whole cabinet at her whim?
Marriage or not, she was still commander in chief of the armed forces: one word from her and the fleet wouldn't have moved anywhere to begin with.

Other than "this writing is absolutely moronic", there's no explanation as to why Cagalli suddenly decided she was, in her words, powerless as soon as Yuna appeared on the scene.

>>23319296
>She knows what she is doing by joining forces with the Seirans is not right either for her or the nation's interests, and goes with it regardless.
Why is that? The arguments that Unato and Yuna make are largely sound. The world is in a state of crisis, Orb needs their leadership to appear strong and united, etc.
>(other than her brother, Lacus, Murrue and a good chunk of Orb's armed forces, who are Attha-ists to the core)
That's why the Seirans worked to isolate her, to the point that she ends up living in their estate and isn't even allowed to leave.

>there's no explanation as to why Cagalli suddenly decided she was, in her words, powerless as soon as Yuna appeared on the scene.
She's a relatively complete novice when it comes to politics, and serves as a foil to Durandal in this regard. Durandal starts off as a very skilled politician, but as his plans gets closer to fruition, he starts slipping and making unnecessary mistakes. Cagalli starts off meek, trying too hard to be what she thinks a good leader should be, hearing people out and letting consensus prevail, but when she starts being more headstrong and proactively taking the lead in Orb's politics, she is able to get Orb into a very good position by the end.

>>23319166
>>23319215
>>23319220
LMAO HOLY FUCKING BTFO

>>23319340
>Why is that?
Several reasons. Why would Orb join forces with the very people that had occupied their country not too long ago? Neutrality and Attha-ism aside, Orb has absolutely no reason to join forces with the Earth Alliance, an organization that has proven itself committed to genocide. ZAFT is not Orb's enemy and have proven themselves to be a force for good on Earth.

>The arguments that Unato and Yuna make are largely sound.
This is winning the argument by default, because Cagalli doesn't have any retort other than parroting her "neutrality" spiel, when the most basic, correct reply is "supporting the Earth Alliance in its new war against ZAFT means that Orb's soldiers will die for a cause that isn't ours".

>to the point that she ends up living in their estate and isn't even allowed to leave.
Why does she accept this? Cagalli is a war veteran, not fucking Relena Darlian. Does she understand she's the leader of the country? Why does she say she's powerless when it's clear she's not so by any measure?

To repeat myself, there's no worthwhile explanation other than "this writing is absolutely moronic".

>>23319215
>>23319390
Those are Agnes's words, who we know is a lunatic, jealous bitch that dislikes Shinn and, by association, Lunamaria. The latter never says that she's in a relationship with Shinn, and Fukuda basically says on >>23319207 that they aren't because he's a dumb kid.

>>23319249
Apparently Cagalli just loses all rational thought and any logic ability at the slightest hint that Orb could be attacked again and Yuna pushing that trauma button has her completely give into him.

>>23319232
Is it really that hard to be a country leader and have a relationship when you turn in for the day? Most of the world's countries leaders are married.

>>23319403
>Why would Orb join forces with the very people that had occupied their country not too long ago?
Because that was years prior and anti-PLANT sentiment is growing rapidly on Earth due to the global calamity that happened immediately prior.
>"supporting the Earth Alliance in its new war against ZAFT means that Orb's soldiers will die for a cause that isn't ours"
Joining the Alliance is proposed well before the war starts and literally every other nation on Earth that wasn't part of the Alliance also joins it. Also, her retort is that ZAFT did their best to stop Junius Seven, but Yuna effortlessly shuts that down.
>Why does she accept this?
Because she is being manipulated. Essentially, 'Look, the prime minister and I and even the people all want this, don't you want what's best for Orb?'

>To repeat myself, there's no worthwhile explanation other than "this writing is absolutely moronic".
Isn't that because you decided that in advance? Ironically, making snap judgments based on incomplete information is a running theme in SEED Destiny, too.

>>23319407
Anon, it is okay to have just been wrong on this.

>>23319411
No, but her indecisiveness directly led to Orb getting embroiled in the war and invaded again. It would be gauche for her to be concerned with dating when the entire world, including Orb, is unstable.

>>23319416
Nobody is disputing that they have feelings for each other. That's a thing since Destiny. The point is whether they are in a relationship. And Lunamaria doesn't say that Shinn is her "boyfriend", only that she loves him.

>>23319418
You gave some sort of evidence to suggest Cagalli and Athrun weren't together at least. Where's your evidence that Shinn and Luna aren't? It feels like you're jumping through hoops here.
>Okay sure, they love each other and they nearly had sex during the movie and Agnes is jealous that they're dating, but Luna doesn't outright say "I am dating Shinn"!

>>23319425
>Where's your evidence that Shinn and Luna aren't?
They don't act like they are in any relationship. It's more like "two friends with obvious feelings for each other" and Shinn is dumb and immature.

>and they nearly had sex during the movie
What?

>and Agnes is jealous that they're dating
Agnes is cuckoo. 100% delusional. Nothing she says can be taken as fact. It's all her insane beliefs.

>>23319427
>They don't act like they are in any relationship.
Sure they do. They literally kiss onscreen in Destiny and hug and nearly have sex in Freedom.
>What?
What exactly did you think >>23319207 was talking about? Are you naive?
>Agnes is cuckoo.
So Luna would surely say "Huh? I'm not even dating Shinn!" right? But she doesn't, because they've been involved since Destiny and an official couple since the drama CDs.

>>23319413
>Because that was years prior
Two years ago. That's less than a US presidential period. Even less than that since Orb recovered its sovereignty from Atlantic Federation protectionship.

>and anti-PLANT sentiment is growing rapidly on Earth
Other than Yuna's claims, do we ever see any anti-PLANT sentiment on Orb proper, a country that prides itself for its alleged tolerance? And how is this an argument for joining forces with the Earth Alliance? It's basically bandwagoning.
Also, you conveniently omit the fact that the EA tried to commit an act of genocide several times bigger than Break The World, which would put into question throwing any support for them. But that's never a factor either for you nor the writing: they launch the nukes, they're stopped with the Stampeder and that's the end of it.

You also forget the basic argument: sending Orb soldiers to fight and die for a foreign interest.

>but Yuna effortlessly shuts that down.
Because Cagalli doesn't even make an effort to counteract that. Again, ZAFT and Durandal have proven their good intentions on the field.

>>23319416
>It would be gauche for her to be concerned with dating when the entire world, including Orb, is unstable.
Uh, Anon, this is one of those "goose/gander" kind of things. How can being together with Athrun be considered gauche in the midst of a global crisis, but a public wedding of two nobles isn't?

>>23319437
>What exactly did you think >>23319207 was talking about? Are you naive?
SEED had a literal sex scene. Why the fuck is Fukuda talking with euphemisms?
Didn't he learn anything from Tomino? The old coot has no qualms about insulting Shinkai for how sterile his romances are.

>>23319416
>No, but her indecisiveness directly led to Orb getting embroiled in the war and invaded again.
Why is that her fault and not the Seirans? Furthermore, why isn't Kira and Murrue's fault for not going back to Orb, fly the Archangel over Olofat and put Cagalli back in charge before things had made a turn for the worse?

>>23319413
>>23319409
>and Yuna pushing that trauma button has her completely give into him.
This is yet another wasted opportunity.
Instead of having Yuna as this aggressive-yet-moronic guy that snaps at Cagalli for her un-ladylike choice of language, they should've made him suave and manipulative, like a toxic boyfriend:
>shhhh, it's okay, baby girl. once we get married, orb will never burn again. nobody will harm your people after we are together

What have I gotten myself into here, bros?

>>23319439
>Other than Yuna's claims, do we ever see any anti-PLANT sentiment on Orb proper, a country that prides itself for its alleged tolerance? And how is this an argument for joining forces with the Earth Alliance? It's basically bandwagoning.
To be clear, it's not my argument. The fact is, Cagalli can't immediately refute it, and the way the show presents that scene, we have no reason to believe he or Unato was overtly lying. They say that Orb was spared the worst of Break the World, but still was affected by it.
>But that's never a factor either for you nor the writing: they launch the nukes, they're stopped with the Stampeder and that's the end of it.
That happens after the proposal to join the Alliance, and by this point, a lot of Orb's leadership is corrupt, and Cagalli fails to realize this.
>ZAFT and Durandal have proven their good intentions on the field.
She points this out. Yuna basically says, 'oh, I'm sure the tens of millions of people affected by this disaster will just forgive and forget then, they tried after all'.

>>23319440
>How can being together with Athrun be considered gauche in the midst of a global crisis, but a public wedding of two nobles isn't?
Your timeline is twisted up. I'm talking about if Cagalli put aside reconstructing Orb after it was just invaded by ZAFT and lost a lot of government officials to go on dates with Athrun, not start of series. Orb didn't even fight a battle yet at the time of the Yuna wedding.

>>23319446
>Why is that her fault and not the Seirans?
It's both. The Seirans are largely to blame, but she feels responsible as well.
>Furthermore, why isn't Kira and Murrue's fault for not going back to Orb, fly the Archangel over Olofat and put Cagalli back in charge before things had made a turn for the worse?
They basically already just did as Cagalli wanted for much of the series.

Meyrin is better for Athrun anyways.

>>23319534
Meer should have survived and become Athrun’s fuckdog

>>23319446
>Furthermore, why isn't Kira and Murrue's fault for not going back to Orb, fly the Archangel over Olofat and put Cagalli back in charge before things had made a turn for the worse?

Based on how effective Cagalli was with the fleet and before they even left Orb it would be pointless because the Seirans would have just overrode her like they did before. It wasn't until Yuna fucked things up so badly that he had to beg for her to take over, and then him and all his supporters were conveniently killed in Zaft's invasion that Cagalli could be back in charge again. The only other option would have been to start a Civil War in Orb, which Cagalli would have won with Kira and AA on her side, but given how Cagalli had a breakdown at the thought of any Orb soldiers dying, pretty much was not something she had the stomach for.

>>23319403

There's really no way to justify alot of the stuff in Destiny beyond Morosawa didn't care how stupid and out of character people were acting to get them to the few plot moments she wanted. Really that's about it. She didn't give a shit, she didn't want to be there, Fukuda massively fucked up by insisting his wife continue to work with him so he could keep her around the office.

Fukuda is a shithead for denying a good end to couples who don't reach his extremely high morality bar. What a scummy purityfag, moralising old man yelling at the cloud, immature troll etc.

>>23322346
Total Foundation death

>>23322425
And for what purpose?

>>23323394
Because they dared push against Orb and Kira-sama. Cannot be tolerated

>>23323394
They killed their own people and took out another nation’s capital

This is so fucking funny when he got legitimately pissed at her like 14 hours prior

I love these two. I love their chemistry. Fuck M7. Just one of a number of reasons.

>>23317226 (OP)
Eureka 7 had a better pairing. Hell, even Naruto and Hinata was better.

>>23319534
Meyrin feels like she only existed to NTR Cagalli but then she failed so hard she aged 20 years. Even Murosawa gave up on her in one of the Audio Dramas.

>>23317280
Now post Athrun giving Shinn nothing but shame.

How about these two?

>>23329631
>Sad ending
>No one gets to bang each other
Gets minus points

>>23319220
>>23319416
Why did they give everyone dick sucking lips in the movie?

>>23324017
You don't typically expect turning someone down and getting a little agitated when they don't take the hint to turn into them trying to violently murder you the next day

>>23331657
And then he completely forgets it about when Lacus seemingly betrays him as well.

Forgetting someone?

>>23331656
They'll all gonna be moms soon

>>23332883
Except Meyrin and Agnes.

God damn those lucky guys...!

Which one in the pair have you cum more to.

Who cares about the oldies moldies?

>>23334701
You're right. We should talk about modern couples like Machu x Shuji or Secelia x couch.

>>23334710
That couch? My penis.

>>23317226 (OP)
anon, those are both guys
that's fucking gay

>>23322346
Bro would have panicked the first time she wanted him to put out.

The fact that the war autist who's scared of sex had a better time seducing a chick than Lacus's designated mate did trying to catch her seemed like a further "Genes are overrated" joke by Fukuda.

>>23335592
Apparently if you're about to get raped, you can just say no and your rapist will instantly respect your wishes and give up, despite you having zero tools or leverage at your disposal.

>>23335592
We can't forget that Agnes is a slut who's desperate for attention. She's CE Quess.

>>23331179
How about this instead?

>>23338390
Who?

I hope we get a proper sex scene in the upcoming freedom prequel series, with nipples and bush

>>23317226 (OP)
For me it's Isami Ao and Lewis Smith

>>23340384
Lacus gonna bring out the strap-on?

>>23343067
To peg Shinn.

>>23346573
Is Luna okay with this? I mean with Lacus not the strap-on.

>>23317226 (OP)
Me too.

Say whatever you want about these two.

>>23350896
Blondie and hag

what if... i just laugh at you in more than one place?

>>23353250
>I became a multi dimensional being to laugh at (You)

>>23347079
She would be okay with a threesome.

>>23354536
Hot.

Why would u nut to a couple. That is both cucked and homosexual.

>>23319418
>>23319166
>>23319062
>>23318994
You're retarded. Did we even watch the same movie?

>>23340384
I wish.

>>23324092
They’re still an item in M7 even if they aren’t a perfect couple bro.

>>23334710
We need a spinoff where the three engage in romcom-sitcom shenanigans.
They look all cute with their silly designs.
It'd be a shame if they were wasted in something that would turn out to be bloody convoluted mess later on.

Machu love

>>23332011
Is that even real?

>>23350896
The way their relationship was portrayed in Freedom was one of the best parts of the movie despite limited screen time

>>23317226 (OP)
What exactly was their character chemistry in Destiny?

>>23369162
>I'm pretty sure I personally killed your sister a couple of episodes ago, I mean I wasn't holding back and went for a killstab

can't think of anything else like talking or spending off-duty time together since they clearly didn't really do that

>>23334923
lmao

>>23369162
Licking each others' wounds + Luna is clearly a starfucker as evidenced by the fact that her primary reason to being attracted to Athrun was "He was a big name in the previous war" and Shinn was ZAFT's super ace of the second war.

or me it will always be these two

>>23373147
I thought Luna's attraction was a red herring since she was actually spying on Athrun, or did they actually do the whole "secret inner thoughts" monologue of her actually caring for him?

>>23373216
She initially has a very obvious crush on him, it only cools off after she thinks he fucked Meer and then this happened when she was very openly hitting on him

>>23317226 (OP)
They're the most pointless couple in all of Seed though, their romance comes out of nowhere and is not developed at all.
>they were colleagues in the military academy
Cool. And?

>>23373287
>They're the most pointless couple in all of Seed though, their romance comes out of nowhere and is not developed at all.
Meyrin and Athrun was way worse

>>23373288
Meyrin and Athrun were never together, she just has a crush on him. He's loyal to Cagalli though.

>>23373291
We know that now in Freedom, it was extremely ambiguous in Destiny especially since she was with him at the end

>>23373287
>They're the most pointless couple in all of Seed though
Contestable and irrelevant besides
>their romance comes out of nowhere
True and irrelevant

>>23373491
>irrelevant
How is it irrelevant that the romance comes from nowhere? This is writing 101. Even trashy fanfics make the effort rather than just going "okay, so those two are together now", which is how CE as a whole goes about romance.

>>23373669
NTA but I really don't see what explanation is needed beyond "trauma bonding"

>>23373283
I think the compilation movies she gets jealous of Stella and her crush on Athrun was toned down.

>>23373672
Okay, so what was Lunamaría's "trauma", then? Being on the losing side of a war?

>>23373681
Did you forget she thought Meyrin was dead?

>>23373681
Her sister and a guy she looked up to both had to be killed for being traitors

>>23373696
>>23373688
While Athrun is a bit of a stretch, the story would've been more interesting if Meyrin had been killed for real.

>>23373698
Not really.

>>23317226 (OP)
Stella/Shinn is sweeter but I always get a feeling that he only thinks of her as a little sister. Still, she should've not died at all.

Shinn Cagalli idealism love/hatesex would've been the superior pairing

>>23373669
>OP says that he likes a couple (and nuts to them)
>B-but muh story structure!
Like I said, irrelevant.

Kira&Lacus mog every single couple in all of Gundam

>>23375686
You again, shitposter? Go away.

>>23375686
True!

>>23375699
I'm not shitposting, I genuinely like them. Okay, maybe not best couple in ALL of Gundam, but definitely best CE couple.

>>23376561
Mu and Murrue is better

>>23376562
Fair point, I like them too.

>>23317226 (OP)
For me it is Sexsuko

>>23317280
Did you know that if you connect the beginning and end of SEED's first ending, it's set so Kira and Lacus are looking at each other?

>>23379762
Cute.

>>23375686
lmao

>>23379840
Cinema.

>>23319443
>SEED had a literal sex scene. Why the fuck is Fukuda talking with euphemisms?
Bandai reprimanded Fukuda for that sex scene if I recall correctly.

>>23382853
>Bandai reprimanded Fukuda for that sex scene if I recall correctly.
Cross Ange also had those. Did Bandai reprimand him again?

>>23317226 (OP)
I cant get hard to these two, it's like watching two of your friends fuck. You're happy for them but you'd just rather not see or think about it

Luna pegs Shinn for sure

How much of a pervert is Kira?

>>23392418
Depends on if you consider Gold Rush to be canon.

>>23392427
Isn't that a doujinshi?

>>23379840
At last, I truly see.

>>23319220
Lol at thise ripe full hag lips on Cagalli

>>23394809
They gave all girls DSLs in Freedom and that's hot and good.

>>23397423
Pretty sure Stella has them too and she's a ghost.

>>23397473
>dan_aykroyd_crosseyed.png

>>23397626
GHOST BLOWJOB!

>>23317230
AEUG After Dark is truly premium.

>>23317226 (OP)
I'm like 21 episodes into destiny when do they get fucking? I just got to see fake lacus titties so this has to be soon right. Please do not fail a mecha gooner.

>>23399942
they do it in real life

Easily the most important thing from Destiny.

>>23331656
to make them more relatable to me

>>23400203
>pilot

>>23400240
Jostick handling.

>>23338390
To be fair, she is a harem protagonist by default. She's just collecting more at this point, after the viewpoint character and the villainess.

>>23400203
Stella and Meer don’t look like they’re from the same species, let alone the same show.

>>23400253

>>23400203
can I marry you?

>>23400203
Athrun was too loyal to Cagalli to fuck this.

>>23390088
And any of the other girls? Lacus seems like the pegging type.

>>23400948
Hilda and Miralia
Lacus is an everything type, she's the freeuse space on the bingo card

>>23400950
So, that's why Dearka broke up with Miralia. Because he wasn't into that.