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>Zeztzhart

I'm glad bio riders are making a comeback with Reiwa

Zeztz looks sleek and cool. Can't wait to see the suit for real and the English speaking belt.

>>23327902
Bio riders?

>>23327910
Sorry, I meant organic Riders. I'm surprised by how long it took for us to get another one, before Revi Kiva was the last organic Rider we had gotten

>>23327902
There's no confirmation Zeztz's transformation is biological.

>>23327926
I thought the belt being worn in the chest and picrel meant he's organic but I guess you're right, even if the setting is sci-fi with the focus on dreams Zeztz could just have a skintight less armor heavy suit

why are there two generals?

>>23327947
Someone made a general the same time? They should delete it, or they missed the window that they can.

At least 2 Riders from the start

>>23327952
Already delete mine, hate refreshing for page 8 while driving so i missed the chance

>>23327916
W, OOO, Ex-Aid and Build came after Kiva.

>>23327919
We should just boycott him in japan, like snydercult did for superman movie.

>>23327958
J-Hero is not a leaker nor a reliable source.

>>23327981
He is a leaker but he's indeed not a reliable source.
He got some stuff for King-Ohger and Gozyuger right but otherwise just like Matt Cunt he decides to spout total bullshit from time to time because he's an attention-starved whore

>>23327979
The producers are the ones choosing him to be the main writer and he accepts because a job's a job, he hasn't done anything to warrant a boycott even if him being chosen again so soon is tiring

>>23327975
Aren't all of those canonically armors that modify the user's body rather than Riders whose suits are fully organic?

>>23327988
>He got some stuff for King-Ohger and Gozyuger right
No, he just stole and reposted leaks from the Chinks.

>>23327995
Kiva's suit is a magical armor, he's as bio as Ex-Aid and Build. Double, OOO and Gotchard's suits are, for the most part, their user's transformed body itself, they're more bio than Kiva.

https://x.com/sato_ryuga_offi/status/1934843196472975645

>>23327881 (OP)
>marvel-y design
ewww

>>23327988
>>23328059
They only saw catalog and that's it

It'd be great if for the press conference, Zeztz's actor literally looks like he just got out of bed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oGgKhriIhw
What are your ratings on this song?

>>23328244
Best final form theme in the franchise.

>>23328244
would not beat a kaijin to it/10

>>23328248
Your weak bait has made you an enemy for life.

>>23328244
It feels like the theme to a movie or a late series OP replacement when things get a bit more serious. Pretty alright.

>>23328244
Not bad. But I really gotta see/hear it being used in-show

>>23327992
Or maybe nips try to doxx him when the series airing, like when they did with kinoshita?

>>23328277
CaKing suit still being intact is somewhat surprising

>>23328280
Why wouldn't it be?

>>23328280
Of course it's intact. It hardly got used.

Rate em.

>>23328290
Q1 forms can get trashed half the time for kitbashes down the line quite quickly these days
>SAH for Hellrising
>Dragonic Knight for Super Hero Senki
>Command Cannon for Bujin Sword
etc.

>>23328300
I really only care for Zero-Two's not gonna lie. I don't even count Geats-IX's as an insert song in my head

>>23328280
Of course it's intact. It's hardly ever used.

>>23328300
01>Saber>Revice>Geats>Gotchard>Gavv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llehjCjt1fE

>>23328300
Henshin! Zero-Two~Now is the right time > Rewrite the Story (with vocal) > THE SKY'S THE LIMIT > Rewrite the Story (instrumental) > Shake it off > Negai

>>23328300
Fuck off.

https://twitter.com/HKR20_official/status/1935261778000412703
Bitvol.

>>23328300
Gotchard = Zero-One > Geats > Saber = Gavv
I still listen to Sky's The Limit and Now is the right time on occasion.

>>23328300
Rewrite the story>The Sky's the Límit>Negai>Now is the right time>=Shake it off

Now is the right time is a fine song, but it doesn't sound like a proper insert song to me, it's closer to a BGM with vocals slapped onto it.

>>23328293
Suffer, Jeebh! Suffer!

>kamen rider without belt

>>23328308
>onii-chan
Wait what? Is he shoma's little brother?

>>23328319
The belt is right there though, but it's a shoulder bag now

>>23328293
I like seeing Lizel play with her toy :)

>>23328325
But it isn't a belt though, belt used properly around the waist.

>>23328300
Nah, ranbu no escalation better

>>23328358
sexxo....

>>23328364
daru...

>>23328329
Shoulder belts do exist though.

>>23328366
Yes, but rider never use it that away. Wearing "belt" like a shoulder bag is disrespectful to the tradition.

>>23328378

>komura when writing gavv the kids show

>>23328358
Rising Titan always stands out because of how dramatic the change is compared to the other Rising forms..

>>23328378
Only nostalgiafag boomers give a shit about "tradition."

>>23328384
That's movie.
We're talking about tv-series mainline rider, is there anyone who ditch the belt?

HOT DAMN!!

>>23328410
Base form Valen right now

>>23328333
Jesus Christ.

>>23328422
This will be her in 25 years
>>23328333

>>23328422
would

>>23328399
Bitter gavv arc is a mistake

>>23328457
I just want more manly acrobatic rider, the last was kouta the manlet.

>>23328422
I wanna lick her armpits

>>23328422
Cute hag

https://twitter.com/toeiHERO_movie/status/1935231007000580469
"W Hero Summer Movie" advance screening for parents and children decided‼
70 pairs, 140 people invited
Applications are accepted until 13:00 on Thursday, June 26th ‼
[Event Details]
Date and location
Friday, July 11th, afternoon at a theater in Tokyo (Only winners will be contacted)"

>>23328422
I wish she'd do bikini gravure

>>23328515
Will a parent be the sacrificial lamb to get pictures/video of Zeztz's appearance?

Why was the last thread an actually normal one with proper discussion for the most part while this one has more rampant shitposting from people that don't watch Kamen Rider than usual, even by the low standards of discussion quality of these generals lately?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQZUuytCiEM

>>23328457
That would really interesting but I doubt we'll have a protagonist that old, unless they have de-aging as a major plot point and basically have two actors playing the protagonist

>>23327902
I don't know if Gavv counts as an organic Rider. His belt obviously generates some kind of armor that encases him instead of literally transforming his body.

>>23328565
It's kind of a weird case where he's wearing a suit that's made organically from his body. I would count him as a bio rider because the belt is part of him.

>>23328565
The way I understand it he's biomechanical, basically his Rider form is his Granute form but he's only able to achieve that due to Dente's operation, so it's both an armor made of food and mechanical parts but also part of his body, at least I think?

>>23328557
>I doubt we'll have a protagonist that old
So the oldest Rider protagonist outright was 51 with Black Sun but that's aimed at an older demographic (At minimum teenagers, at old enough one of the merchandising pieces they announced was cards for betting money on boat races). The next oldest (and the one to actually be in a mainline TV series aimed at the core demo) is Hibiki, who was 31. So Toei skews younger, but Bandai clearly doesn't mind older - Ultraman Blazar's lead was a 35 year old father played by a 35 year old man.
Nitta is only 5 years older than that, is clearly in good shape given he's being used as a suit actor (plus other suit actors like Eitoku are 7 years older than him). Additionally, if the theorizing on them doing mainly virtual backgrounds with little outdoor action is true, it'd be a safe enough environment to have the face actor also be the suit actor, the reason they stopped was due to accident/insurance reasons but if he's always busy at the studio in a safe location they may be more content with it (plus they'd just give him an understudy suit actor anyway, same way Marika in Gaim had Satoshi Fujita).

This is all to say I could be completely wrong about all of this, but there's evidence declaring it as not being impossible.

>>23328590
I look forward to Jeebh dying in glorious fire, and actually dying this time. Poor rabid thing needs to be put down.

>>23328601
Would be funny if he did a sudoku

>>23328604
Only if Lizel watched and egged him on

>>23328601
In his final desperate moments, he's going to brutally rip out his Black Gavv while his wife watches on in glee at his pure despair. He's going to die while screeching as he pulls out his organ.

>>23328590
I hate that if Jeebh looked exactly the same but was really a girl, I'd probably fap to him.

>>23328577
>the reason they stopped was due to accident/insurance reasons
That was the initial reason but Kamen Rider and Super Sentai are usually seen these days as a way to propel young actors to the spotlight, and to have an older protagonist should be a conscious decision from the producer like how Build's cast was slightly older than usual because Omori wanted the last Heisei to be more mature. Build was at least a success but with the ever-growing fujo audience I wonder if they'll do
If Kenta Nitta is indeed both a face actor and suit actor honestly Minato will have my respect for greenlighting such a thing after how long it has been.

Gavv Ep. 41

>29th: Nielve fuses a human who has lost his sense of self with a Granute and uses him for his own use. Something strange happens to Kizunato.

>>23328640
>If Kenta Nitta is indeed both a face actor and suit actor honestly Minato will have my respect for greenlighting such a thing after how long it has been.
It's genuinely a case of what an anon mentioned a couple threads ago: If Minato realizes he's the one in control of the show and he gets the final say on things, he can pull this move.

>>23327992
I know Akiko Inoue won't be a recurring tokusatsu writer since she's a novelist first and foremost but I find it interesting how her grandfather worked on almost every Showa season while her dad was at least involved on every early Heisei season except Kuuga and Den-O.

>>23328640
>Kenta Nitta is indeed both a face actor and suit actor
That'd be a ballsy move, I doubt it'll happen but. A Main Rider that is actually in his own suit and doing his own stunts would be interesting to see.

>>23328590
gavv reassignment surgery

>>23328601
>>23328607
Lyzel is going to push him one inch too hard and he's going to kill her and himself.

>>23328657
So Frankensuga confirmed.

>>23328640
While not a mainline TV production, SKR made sure all the face actors were their suit actors. Hongo and Hayato had understudies for the unused Shocker Rider fight, but it's them in the suits for nearly the entire thing outside of CG.
Mind you, this was probably the highest budget Kamen Rider production (which includes insurance coverage) of all time and was being helmed by Hideaki Anno who would be given far more leverage than a relatively green producer like Minato. But it's proven Toei is willing to tolerate it if the material is interesting and the spearhead pushes for it.

>>23328657
Oooh Lord Valen

>>23328678
Glotta is obviously going to be killed by Vram A La Mode so zombie Suga also being a thing isn't surprising now.

>>23328657
Wonder if whoever the Granute organ that Hanto has originally belonged to will be important? I always just assumed it was from a random junkie that Nyelv harvested and just gave it to Suga as freebie

>>23328696
Wait until it turns out it was Nyelv who killed Comel and took his organ for Suga to use on Hanto.

>>23328704
then lakia starts treating hanto like his lil bro.

Gavv's about done and we still haven't seen Shoma with a berserk granute form. Maybe it's for the best.

>>23328704
Haven't gotten the chance to watch the latest episode subbed yet, but at least watching the raws didn't they literally Glotta killing him? He could still harvest Comell's organ tho

>>23328724
There was a brief shot of Glotta slashing Comel, but she said she didn't remember it so I assumed it was just Lakia playing it out in his mind rather than Glotta having a flashback

Given the phrasing here, does this mean he'll release a manga with Black or even something with Heisei?
https://twitter.com/K1muraeda/status/1934416475701588084

>>23328762
whatever he can milk for another decade

>>23328772
Spirits ended up surprisingly amazing for somethingso long so I wouldn't mind
Hopefully the fan translation catches up so that more people can read this manga

>>23328762
I assume Black since he prefers Showa, honestly I wish he did another original IP, I loved Red Living on the Edge

>>23327981
You can just ignore and not get mad anytime J-Hero post appear here.
You're probably from Thailand too like them.

>>23328059
so just like Ironheng on Facebook and whoever that Ben guy on Twitter

>>23328577
>Ultraman Blazar's lead was a 35 year old father played by a 35 year old man
The actor was 35-36 but they specifically made the character younger for about 31 at the time (born 1992 according to official profile), everyone on Blazar are aged down from the actors' real ages.
Bandai probably only okay with older character with 30-31 years old at most, like with Gozyu Tyranno right now.

>>23328762
Didn't he draw Tsukasa/Decade one time on Masahiro's birthday or something?

>>23328825
Why are you getting so uppity?

>>23328828
He's closer to Tokullectables, he does actually get the catalogue sometimes, he was the first person to draw the Gozyugers' helmets and has also leaked some other stuff before, but as I stated here >>23327988, most of what he says is bullshit for attention. I think so far everything he has said for Gozyuger that hadn't already been said by the Chinese leakers have turned out to be true, while in contrast everything he has said about Gavv that isn't just reporting what the Chinese without crediting have turned out to be false.
Ironheng is nota leaker and just reposts anything and everything regardless of credibility. Ben is also not a leaker, I don't think he evens promotes himself as such he just reposts leaks from other people without crediting them so basically the same thing that popular Latinamerican Pokémon leak compiler, CentroNigger or whatever does.

>>23328828
Don't want to defend J-Hero but they had or saw a catalog only, they even draw a sentai ring when color or lemon who's not a sentaifag didn't even bother to draw them.

>>23328828
>that Ben guy on Twitter
He's not a leaker, he's just an anon the at lurks here and posts info from here on his Twitter.

>>23328835
I didn't know about this, thanks anon

>>23328515
>W Hero Summer Movie
I've kinda noticed how little and late they decide to promote the summer movies now. Like we still don't have a proper title for Gavv's movie like when they called last year's double feature Kamen Rider The Summer Movie and it's basically a month out, it's kinda weird.

>>23328865
Yeah, the box office of the movies fell a lot recently, but it feels like they aren't getting nearly as much marketing as they used to. We used to get early trailers months before the movie, alongside magazine slowly revealing stuff about it each month. Now it's like everything is compressed in two months.

>>23328522
Did that and done

>>23328873
Stop being racist anon

>>23328762
Whatever he does I just know it will be kino, he's one of the few mangaka like Kazuhiro Fujita that has never disappointed me with their stories.

Predict Zeztz’s plot

>>23328889
Hard sci-fi powered dream entering to fight monsters in dreamscapes? If the dream stuff ends up being the main focus.

>>23328833
Changing actor ages is normal and they could probably do the same thing with Nitta. He's a physically fit Asian guy, those guys stay 30 for 20 years.

>>23328889
Setting takes place in the near future, Zeztz is a Secret Agent that enters a dreamspace to protect people's dreams from a villain organization that plans to brainwash the population by using said dreamspace. Zeztz looks like Ichigo because his dreams to be a hero that can protect everyone's aspirations, so his dreams literally manifest themselves as an Ichigo homage.
From Q2 onward the show will lose its budget and will have the monsters mostly attack in the real world for plot reasons while the few times they still need to use the dreamspace they'll just use the Hellheim forest set.

>>23328920
For Q2 just say that the Dreamworld is bleeding into the real world so they move to battles in Japan again

>>23328870
I wonder if they eventually drop summer movie like how winter movie now gone and spring movie already stopped for almost 10 years.

>>23328920
>>23328924
That would mean they had to ditch the virtual LED backgrounds

>>23328873
pretty nice tits

>>23328936
Tbf winter movie got dropped because of Gavv advance filming schedule time.

>>23328956
I guess yeah it's impossible for Gotchard and Gavv, but now that Zeztz is on the similar schedule as Gavv would they able to do a crossover again?

>>23328956
Not really, didn't Shirakura say they wanted to experiment because the past few winter crossover films sold less so they instead released the Fuuto PI movie and he showed interest in making a new standalone film like ZO or J?

>>23328936
The Sentai/Rider Summer movies are the replacements to the Toei Manga Festival/Anime Festival/Super Hero Festival (they used to be 3 to 4 shorts, including anime ones, not just toku) which have been running since the 70s, so I could see them wanting to keep them going even if they're doing badly, like Sentai's situation overall just due to tradition.

>>23328889
color misinterpreted the theme and its actually about yume

>>23328982
freddy krueger season

>>23328976
Wonder why they did those Super Hero Fair between 1993 to 1995 (ZO, J, Hakaider as main movie) but then just stopped.

>>23328657
>fuse human with granute
Say what you want about bitter gavv story, but at least it serves a catalyst for this experiment to happen. It is possible to do with suga's data.
Also, it's clear zombie suga will be hanto's final enemy. Tied with hanto's somewhat "granute" mode. That leaves lakia and shoma.

>>23328657
what if jeeph is the granute? means he's gone without a fight

>>23328762
Interesting, he's saying this is the final volume of "ZX-hen" (ZX chapter) rather than just saying "Spirits". So, maybe he will go ahead and do something else.

Black RX could have a lot of potential for a retelling like Spirits since he could actually show the Riders fighting Crisis forces around the world and integrate them properly into RX's story.

Alternatively, jumping all the way to Heisei, he could do a story that starts from Dai-Shocker invading other worlds, way before Tsukasa's amnesia and follows the point of view of the previous Riders resisting them, only joining up with Tsukasa much later after his fall and amnesia.

>>23328859
>there are nips lurking in this place
Wew

>>23328889
Premise is dream and reality is blurred
But the twist is the "real world" is actually a fake one, created by robutts

So...matrix ver.9999, assuming takahashi stays a hack copying another pop culture story

>>23329102
Ben is not a nip, he's a white guy from Arkansas. He used to have his location on his Twitter public until he went all in on the pretend-to-be-Japanese gimmick.
Plenty of nips post here though, since we're a source of pro-spoilers and pro-leaks discussion.

>>23328889
Please have cosmic horror vibe takahashi-sensei and my life is yours.

>>23329133
>The ultimate villain of ZZZ is some eldritch cosmic being that feeds off the dreams of humanity, and has been enabling the events of the show to feed himself on Humanities despair in their nightmares.

>>23329131
>Plenty of nips post here though, since we're a source of pro-spoilers and pro-leaks discussion
No we don't, just because that happened twice it doesn't mean we constantly have nips here, we hardly ever do since naturally they go to 2chan

>>23329137
>No we don't
I see you, Mozart.

>>23329137
>VinzChing
>CraneJoe
>Netabare-san
>Ghost book guy
>Drive book guy
>Movie spoilers guy
>FencingAnon (technically)
>Tom Constantine (technically)
>King Nekketsu (technically)
And this is the short list and not including rando anons who've posted pretty firm evidence they are Japanese and live in Japan

>>23329145
God I miss movie spoilers guy, bro showing up and just showing screenshots of unreleased trailers was hardcore.

>>23329133
It's going to be secret agent.

I think the plot will be about some kind of corporation or agency that goes into dreams to steal information for criminal deeds, and Zesty is employed by a good agency to go into the dreams and stop them.

>>23329141
>Mozart
That's a new one, which schizo is that?

>>23329145
Thank you for making me realize I'm retarded and that I completely misinterpreted what this post >>23329131 said

>>23329145
>Tom Constantine
His Twitter got hacked recently.

>>23329145
I remember the anon during Geats who had a fox visiting his home and Sailor Moon who was a recurrent extra for Toei and would openly talk about his experience there.

>>23329154
>That's a new one, which schizo is that?
It's just a decade old shitpost, not surprise it's fallen to the wayside.

>>23329155
Really? Is he okay?

>>23328889
>no secondary rider leak this early
>like gavv last year
We so fucking over bros

>>23329164
Eh I wouldn't count it out, Zeztz has gotten less leaks than usual like Saber

The protagonist of Zeztz is going to be a turbo-asshole since Shouma was so baby

>>23329164
There's a second transforming suit character at minimum in Q1. Color states it's an AutoVajin-esque bike buddy, and J-Hero says it's a mechcanical-motifed Kamen Rider. They may technically be two separate things. But there's at least one second suited character for Q1.

>>23329162
It's a shame...

>>23329164
If Takahashi is involved then no less than 3 Riders

>>23329164
Gavv is relatively low in the number of Riders compared to most recent seasons and it still has a half dozen.

>>23329173
Well it’ll be clear when the toy listing came in

>>23328889
All of Zeztz's forms are going to be based on things that people are afraid of

>>23329197
Are people really scared of raccoons?

>>23329201
Does he have a raccoon form?

>>23329201
Ah, translation error. It was not raccoons, it's coons. You see, that form is powered by a fear of black people.

>>23329205
Allegedly, I don't know chinese so these might be wrong but at least the forms lemon mentioned when mtl were Saffari Mammoth, Thief Boko, Dianfu Pet, Wu Mafu
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/23292863/#23293450

>>23329221
Oh ok I take back my guess then. I have no idea what the theme is going to be. Maybe various types of rebellious icons

>>23329152
>dollar store inception
Yeah sounds about right takahashi

>zetsu is about dreams
>current elbaf arc in OP is also involving dreams
Another proof that takahashi copied the popular ip

from twitter that leakee zombie suga

>>23329264
laughed at the tiny arms

>>23329268
>white pig thinks having a positive ape index is normal

The suit is said to be more simplistic but I would like a gimmick with a sort of "sleep mask" motif that gives access to an alt mode by having the mask open up and reshape on the face like Ixa's.

>>23329270
gorilla arms would be more proportionally correct than those stubs

>>23329181
Dude, every season since Wizard has at least 3 riders, it's not a Takahashi thing

>>23329264
ben-10 alien?

What overpowered ability will Takahashi give his protag this time?

>>23329273
oh so you don't like short arms? I'm going to kill my self

>>23329290
With those tiny arms? You're not gonna be able to get shit done.

>>23329264
I like to believe it because it's 90% close but I don't see anything on that account

>>23329294
It's not from that account at all.

>twitterfags being a retard challenge: impossible

>>23329309
These dudes just got Legend fanwanking his way into Gotchard, the fuck more do they want.

>>23329294
No but you just uncover something more important. New gochizo this late, is it gonna be a new form or what?

>>23329318
it's just going to give lakia tits when he uses it, no way they have a new suit for a form that's not an upgrade this late

>>23329318
I keep saying that Over/Master isn't gonna be the true final form

ichigo arms shushutto spark

>>23329290
>>23329304
Hi, aiko!

>>23327979
Daily reminder that Western toku fans don’t contribute to viewership in the eyes of Toei and therefore not important to them.

>>23329309
>Where's a Kamen Rider based off of Kuuga
Zero-One (Partially), Juuga
>or Decade?
Revice Megalodon, Legend

>>23329348
Juuga was only in name wasn't it? and I guess the colour scheme?

>>23327881 (OP)
So which one is closer to the real suit?

>>23329361
We don't know yet

>>23329356
I mean, it's straight up designed like an edgy techno-Ultimate Kuuga.

>>23329348
>Zero-One (Partially),
Headcanon.

>>23329367
Maybe it's just me but I don't see the visual similarities

>>23329371
Rising's in the name and the pose is closer to Kuuga's than Rider 1's and Bandai has deliberately lampshaded that.

>>23329367
Can they stop raping Ultimate Kuuga?

>>23329318
>New gochizo this late, is it gonna be a new form or what?
anon, he's just going to be yet another background gochizo (after being created and showed, of course, we need to sell those toys after all)

>>23329348
>Juuga
name only and even that's stretching it
> Legend
i heard his design is just a reused scrapped rider from decade.

>>23329374
Suuuuuuuure

>>23329382
Never

will toku survive beyond the reiwa era?

I drew Zeztz boy based off da leaks

>>23329390
>i heard his design is just a reused scrapped rider from decade.
Incorrect. There might've been some scrapped ideas from back then, but Legend's design incorporates multiple traits from Zi-O as well (including his name in katakana along the side of his face).

>>23329318
>>23329389
>>23329320
>New gochizo this late, is it gonna be a new form or what?
It's literally just Lakia's two forms but made from Shouma

>>23329400
That why I said that it's going be another background gochizo

>>23328704
>>23328724
Comel died in Lakia's arms.

>>23329404
>cut to Nyelv sneaking into the graveyard to dig up a chimpmunk's corpse

>>23329382
I liked Juuga.

>>23329398
Nice drawing.

>>23329361
Given everything said most likely picrel (the middle one) but with the belt having a red strap instead and a white translucent case instead of having the suit's colors

>>23329400
>>23329318
Ignoring that the anon that originally asked was baiting, didn't tokullectables list them as summer movie items for some reason? That was the first mention of their existence which is why I'm giving that listing attention but it's weird since the scans implied what you said that they'll just be two background Gochizos.
Other than that set there's the second cookie that we don't know how it will release and the Caries' belt which come with two Gochizos. We've yet to know if that second red Gochizo is meant to be for another form of Caries, the amnesiac from the movie that has the same Gavv but without the plate or someone using that belt in the movie.

>>23329390
>name only and even that's stretching it
They literally based it on Kuuga because it's the actor's favorite show. Same color scheme as Ultimate, the yellow eye is shaped like one of Kuuga's horns, and the Driver has finisher names based on Kuuga's forms.

>>23329399
>(including his name in katakana along the side of his face)
This is a headcanon.

>>23329422
I was kinda hoping that the belt would "slot" into the chest pecs more instead of being above them. Like a puzzle piece in the suit.

>>23329452
It could still be in-lore, wasn't the implication that the red parts of the belt, including the belt strap, will be constantly glowing for all forms in the show? Kind of how like Drive's belt stays constantly displaying the form's logo with a led while the real toy doesn't last as long

>>23329422
Please ask color about this, is this true or there's some detail that is missing

>>23329361
The middle image in the OP's but imagine the black parts of the suit having a texture akin to the man of steel and the green parts of the suits to be in some sort of gradient of picrel's colors. Also the belt having a bit more white in it since it has been described to have the cyclone's colors.

>>23329465
>>23329422
>>23329422
I think you're misinterpreting the image, the belt strap and the circle will glow the colors of the respective form then fade out to black, that's why he says that the presence of the strap can hardly be felt because it blends in. It's either this or the belt strap remains in the color of the chosen form, adapting to each suit dynamically.

>>23328399
Gavv isn't boring for me sorry.

>>23329485
For me, Gavv has been an interesting and educational look into how feeders operate.

>>23329448
>This is a headcanon.
Look for yourself, stupid.

>>23329511
That was actually a coincidence, the reason people didn't belive the rightmost image when it initially leaked, other than having a golden Decade is weird, it's that image of "Gorgeous Decade" is from 2010. So in a way Zi-O kind of copied Legend, probably by coincidence too.

>>23329511
>>23329528
The art book also doesn't mention the katakana being inspired by Zi-O

>>23329390
>i heard his design is just a reused scrapped rider from decade.
This is just some anon's headcanon he keeps pushing. The only thing said is that his design FEELs like it could be a third Decade from Decade's world, nothing about it being an unused Rider from Decade's production.

>>23329511
I'm not seeing the katakana spelling out legend

>>23329528
>it's that image of "Gorgeous Decade" is from 2010.
No, that image only appeared by 2023, unlike the other two you posted beside it.

>>23329528
Did we even learn who drew the right image? Back in the day people said it was a drawing from a fanfic, but that's clearly not the case

>kids show
>two thousand and twenty five

>>23329533
>>23329531
Also, furthermore, 小林大祐 (Daisuke Kobayashi) designed the Decade Riders, but he isn't credited for Legend here.
>>23329531

Sorry guys, but did I miss some details about how Zeztz's belt looks like? Why do all the sketches draw it as if it's part of the suit, and not just a over-the-shoulder driver?

Looked it up, an anon took advantage that people were dumping translations for the artbook and connected the deSaint stuff with Legend without any source: https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/22955199/#q22955345
It's as the other anon said, the artbook implicitly says that they combined Decade's and Zi-O's design after Minato rejected one that actually looked like a Gotchard rider.

The image is also from 2023 like the other anon says: https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21910482/#21911683
It's just that some retard because of telephone game logic mixed the inform of the post saying it's a fanfic from 2010 with the truth and this anon's deSaint lie.

>>23329567
The belt is still over the shoulder but according to the leaks it blends with the suit design to the point of the strap is almost unnoticeable.

What are they thinking with spending money on this?

>>23329567
See the last thread >>23324168

>>23329574
Anyone else find it weird how V3 only puts up 2 fingers?

>>23329587
it's the V

>>23329593
That's the right hand. Shouldn't the left hand be the 3?

>>23329367
Aside from the color scheme, that isn't communicated well at all. It doesn't help that it's like 95% kitbash.

>>23329574
I get that somehow all these slop mobile games make money but I yearn for a new Battride War or beat 'em up.

How many episode of Gavv do I need to watch for the plot to move on from stomach. inc sending minions to farm spice and getting thwarted by Gavv and Valen

>>23329636
why are you watching Kamen Rider if you don't wanna see Kamen Rider beating up monsters? Are you stupid? You can just watch The Sopranos or something

>>23329639
I just don't like the goofy costumes and bad SFX.

>>23329642
then why are you here?

>>23329616
The thing is that they don't, every mobile game so far has been closed to shill another one and the nips are wising up, even there they are shitting on this game because they have 0 faith that a Kamen Rider gacha won't close after they've spent their money. Also this game seems to be some kind of marketing disaster because they've yet to show any actual gameplay because they have an information ban but had to reveal the game's existence early because of the trademark.

>>23329644
Just to suffer?

>>23328657
>K will the new Bitter Gavv cookie and a fusion between Suga and Jeebh
Not at all the direction I thought the show as going, I could have imagined that K would be a fusion but I thought it might have been between the two scientists

>>23329639
I mean seeing him beating up monsters is what's keeping me watching, I'm just not to keen on what I mentioned being the formula for the entire show, I want some variety

this >>23329642 is not me

>>23329636
Around episode 10 you get one of the Stomach themselves going and a few episodes later a new Rider debut. They stay taking on the part-timers throughout the entire show though, only stopping in the last few weeks in the late 30s, with every enemy now being a recurring character.

>>23329642

>>23328073
>Double
Eh I don't know, it feels like armor too, the henshin appears to show it form on top of the body, and for Accel even when he's able to mangle his body up you clearly see those speedometer tick things in his henshin that burst open to form the the suit on top of him, and AU Skull was able to go helmetless in the Decade movie.

>>23329706
Double counts as a bio transformation. Note stuff that requires skin contact works through the W suit even when they make it a plot point it doesn't work through clothing. You also have the obvious splitting apart and such.

>>23328333
who dis again?

>>23329731
Kuuga's scientist woman.

>>23328333
*wolfwhistles*

>>23329716
>You also have the obvious splitting apart
I unlocked a new phobia when I saw this shit

>>23328333
>>23329744
just the way he likes them

>>23329570
>the artbook implicitly says that they combined Decade's and Zi-O's design
Where?

>>23328326
I need it

I can't stop listening to this new insert....
Help.

>>23329840
Just reply to >>23328244 instead of uploading the same image again

>>23329657
The show has a strict-ish 2-parter format except most MoTW don't have wacky powers that lead to interesting strategies unlike W, and most victims of the week (several 2-parters don't even have one) don't have interesting dilemmas nor get enough focus when it matters unlike OOO.

>>23329706

>>23329706

>>23329808
Hello Jean fandom

>>23329903
I'm a Jean fan too anon but jesus

I feel that Tsubaki is the most undrapreciated character in Kuuga, I hardly see anyone bring him up but he's pimp doctor and one of the main catalysts for Rising.

>>23329922
He's beautiful in that first HD photo.... thank you. Saved to my Jean folder.

>>23329744
oh wow, she really aged

>>23329932
It's been 25 years. The actor who played Godai is like 50 now.

>>23329932
Yeah it's honestly kind of insane how she was the hottest girl from Kuuga but the one that aged the poorliest, the latest reunion makes it really clear.
The silver lining is that Enokida's actress had the most successful career out of those actresses I guess. I wonder how's Sawatari's actress now?

>>23329926
I wish I had more reasons to bring him up. His date scene is burned into my brain.

>>23329936
It's mainly because she got fat.

>>23329936
Is N-Daguva-Zeba's actor simply incapable of aging?
Also I used to have a massive crush on Sawatari back in the day, it's a shame she couldn't make it to the reunion, I hope the actress is all right.

>>23329941
Arakawa's neck/collarbone fetish is one of the main reasons he's my favorite toku writer, I loved it whenever he did it on Dekaranger too.
I really hope they finally bring him back for Rider in Reiwa, I find it baffling that no producer decided to pick him again for Rider.

https://x.com/ElectricBanjou/status/1932769800981553452

>>23329825
In the first desu link

>>23329962
why does gavv spread his legs like that

>>23329808
>>23329903
>>23329922
>>23329929
This is what happens when Kuuga becomes Babies first rider….

>>23329657
>'m just not to keen on what I mentioned being the formula for the entire show, I want some variety
most toku is this episodic if not moreso

>>23329968
Stop being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian

My favorite mass murderers

>>23329922
>>23329903
I thought he was some sort of grongi spy but no just a foreigner.

>>23329936

>>23329989
Why would you think that? IIRC he knew Sawatari back in college

>>23329976
How is that being a contrarian? Obsessing over a random minor character is not normal at all.

>>23329968
I just want to have sex with Jean Sorrel idk what you're talking about

>>23329996
Because you also quoted two unrelated anons to the faggotanon I thought that you meant praising Jean in any capacity was somehow a newfag thing

>>23329996
he's not minor he was at least in his 20s

>>23329990
>Age looks good on her
>Normal adult
>25 years hit her hardest
>Somehow looks younger? wtf?
>Almost unchanged

>>23330026
>25 years hit her hardest

She's in her 60s, I don't know why people act like getting older is so shocking. Like yeah it happens to everyone.

>>23330036
To be fair, she doesn't look as old as she is, nor did she look her age back then either. Just by comparison she looks the most like its 25 years later compared to the rest of the cast.

>>23330036
Because Dekaswan is about the same age and while yeah she aged, she aged more gracefully than Enokida. I don't know but usually in Japan people in their 60s look more put together than other countries so I guess it feels shocking.

>>23329963
B-but >>23329448 and >>23329531 said it's headcanon!

So, Decade upgrade when?

I'm both >>23329963 and >>23329531, I apologized for my severed retardery here >>23329570, I really need to stuff taking random shit anons say at face value then stating them later as fact, this is the second time this happens. Third technically since I was never able to find that Kinoshita tweet saying he just winged everything past 18 so at this point I have to assume it's something hallucinated even though I remember an anon posting the tweet here.

>>23330081
It's 4chan, there's a 50% chance anything you and anyone else here's next post is going to be completely retarded and you don't even know it until someone tells you. Trying to pretend you know if your next post isn't gonna suck is for forums with usernames.

>>23330068
When they need him to job again

>>23330068
Even though it was a joke, who debuted under both a writer and director who don't care about hyping up power ups, Complete 21 exists, unfortunately.

>>23328357
Based

i'm surprise we don't have any gaim x gavv crossover yet

>>23330112
will kaito ever stop using his lance like a sword

>>23329926
High Contrast Tsubaki in ep 50 still cracks me up to this day. I looove the cast of Kuuga.

>>23330067
Learn to read, this only says that it was one of the ideas they considered, not that it made it to the final design.

>>23329989
Why would an ancient Japanese tribe have a foreigner spy?

>>23330170
The Gurongi were woke.

>>23329441
The descriptions of the Gochizo say they appear in the movie, we don't know to what capacity but it at least shows up I'm there for sure.

>>23329952
>I find it baffling that no producer decided to pick him again for Rider.
I guess it comes down to wanting to stick to their current stable of writers in-between bouts of scouting new blood. It would still be nice to see what Arakwa could come up with after all these years. Feels like it'd be more fresh than finding a complete unknown.

>>23326542
source?

>>23330208
Google it retard

>>23330173
Man I loved the taxi two-parter in Kuuga, it was the first time Godai felt like a detective in a way, I was surprised to learn that the gurongi from that episode went on to become a teacher in South Korea

>>23330173
No other producer in japan that can do a tight, meticulous job on a rider show except takatera. Not even shirakura.
Fight me.

from j-hero page

>>23330294
Tsukada has never done a bad show, the closest was Magiranger prior the Mummy's introduction

>>23330305
Is the neck armor asymmetrical?

>>23330305
I don't know if it's the lightning of this cropped advert or if this is actually an AI image which I wouldn't put it past J-hero but a lot of things in this image look uneven, either way the helmet definitely will look identical to lemon's drawing since he presumably traced a box art

So will Hanto achieve a P-Bandai Final Form or that Granute organ gonna turn him into a full-on Granute for a bitter showdown with Shouma?

>>23330312
Probably just the angle
>>23330326
But j-hero must have the catalog though... maybe this is from one of the page?

>>23329936
>I wonder how's Sawatari's actress now?
Even Takatera can't contact her.

>>23330186
I wish they make more of these "joke final episode" like Kuuga 50.
Faiz actually did one but never released on public, one of the directors posted the cover on his Twitter.

>>23330081
Don't sweat it. Just don't believe anything unless there is proof in production or design notes, or the writer/artist/designer/producer's blog.
>>23329926
I'm with you. I didn't like him at first, but the more it went on the funnier it got. The dead silence on some of his scenes is killer.
>>23330186
Arakawa probably doesn't have many fresh ideas in the tank, I think. His last contributions to Sentai at least were just super standard stuff. It would just result in a very average Rider.

>>23330353
I don't know, Active Raid makes me feel like he still got it in him and from my understanding Kiramager being "simple" was Tsukada's idea because of Sentai's declining sales.

>>23330353
>His last contributions to Sentai at least were just super standard stuff
Didn't he write Ten Gokaiger after Kiramager? But even for that I don't really like he reused the "pretending to break up" and tournament plot again.

>>23329543
Still not known
DeSaint is the assumed name of the design with horizontal cards

https://twitter.com/fukuda_saki__/status/1935528666357973029
>One year ago. There was a knock on the dressing room.
>When I saw the door, I burst out laughing. This is the first time I've seen someone do this. This is a series I've been updating one after another.
>(By the way, even if you do this you can't see inside the room at all)

>I was given the mission to "post Saki's X" but I don't think there's any other opportunity than this one, so I'm going to post it

>With this, the mission was successfully completed. A weight was lifted from my shoulders. Thank you for your hard work.

>>23330463
head empty, thriving

>>23330463
>the only cast members who hangout with each other after the show is Spanner, Kyoka, and Minato
>Houtaro and Rinne never invited to these hangout or personal projects
Makes you think

>>23330463
Better Tertiary than Lakia.

>>23329309
K is literally a 17 year old little nigga, alot of the Toktwt fandom is younger and generally retarded.
I was glad when Matt Butt's arrogant ass left so they had no leader to follow but now they follow that Legion nigger.

>>23330474
After Rinne's actress did that basketball coach drama it looks like she's gone right back to full time modelling. Houtarou's last thing was that mini-drama acting alongside Rita from King-Ohger's actor in a serious romantic drama, he acted quite well just going to show he was never made for a quirky shonen-style protag role.

>>23330474
think of what

>>23330474
>the only cast members who hangout with each other after the show is Spanner, Kyoka, and Minato
whoa it's like they're from the same age group of 1990s born

>>23330485
It's kind of baffling how hard Gotchard's production seemed to hold onto their view of Rinne and Houtaro. Usually you'd have the characters tweaked to better fit their actors, if not completely revamped in some cases. But here they just ignored their obvious issues through an entire year.

>>23330479
>Matt Butt
Got blocked by him around the Zero-Two drama only because I'm not one of the big toku circle, did he really stop posting now?

>>23330495
And through that became some of the most maligned main characters in a KR season for a very, very long time.

>>23330498
I would say he's "retired" again and will just pop up again like nothing happened like he's done like 10 times so far.

>>23330477
says you

>>23330463
NAZE MITERUNDESU

>>23330501
Because it's true.

>>23330474
Yeah, makes me think you're a projecting autist who can't separate the characters from the actors.

>>23328428

>>23330305
>>23330341
That's from this account originally
https://x.com/Yamatoooooo_1/status/1935312949645820068

>>23330574
>j-hero steals from jap account
Lol
Lmao even

>>23330498
Only posts on Bluesky so pretty much just talking to himself, got betrayed by a bunch of YN on twitter who he trusted with leaks, locked all leaks to 10000 post count on rangerboard because admin encourage and fuel his autism.

>>23330116
As a Gaim diehard and a quickly developing Gavv fan I would very much like to see one

>>23330112
Source on the pic?

>>23330116
Gaim not getting anything for its 10YA is surprising. I get not bringing back Kaito, but you figure they could have shoved Kouta somewhere

>>23330689
I don't think Kaito case isn't that serious compared to Ryoma.

Who's writing Zeztz
don't tell me it's Takahashi

>>23330689
>almost the full cast gathered for the CSM release in 2020 which not even the 10th anniversary yet at the time
>then in the actual 10th anniversary it's just Takatora for the CSM Genesis Driver
I assume Kouta's actor got too busy to even mention the anniversary.

>>23330704
It's very highly rumored to be another writer-san season. Air out your grievances and piss your pants about it.

>>23330704
It's him, confirmed by color the most reliable leaker.
Now mute Zeztz and don't watch it because i know you hate him.

>>23330704
One of the most reliable leakers said the staff will be
>Chief producer: Yousuke Minato (Gotchard, Outsiders up to episode 4, King-Ohger's pre-production making Isshabana and Toufu, Donbrothers VS Donburis, Girls Remix)
>Chief Writer: Yuya Takahashi (Ex-Aid, Zero-One, Geats, Drive Type Tokujo, Amazonz The Final Judgement, Ride Kamens, The High School Heroes, Eight Ranger 2, Sadako DX, Monstaboo, Lupin the Third Part 4, Luck & Logic, SELECTION PROJECT, Mirror Twins, Mountain Doctors, IC 〜Shunkan Kioku Sousa Hiiragi han〜)
Unrelated but there's a popular meme in Japan that the reason Takahashi is working so much in Kamen Rider is because Toei is holding his family hostage
>Pilot Director: Kazuya Kamihoriuchi (Ryusoulger, King-Ohger, Ghost Rebirth Specter, The Legend of Hero Alain, Gorider, Heisei Generations Final, Build Be The One, Trio of Deep Sin, Cronos' debut, Ex-Aid Muteki's brutal beatdown against Parad, Build Hazard's first battle, Cross-Z Magma's debut, Grease Blizzard's two-parter, Gaim's tribute in Zi-O, Jin Burning Falcons debut, Zero-One's firefighter episode, Kenzan's debut, Sabela's debut, Kent's reveal of his visions that caused him to become a doomer, Tassel's death, Kenzan's final duel against Dezast, Evil's debut, Kamen Rider Vail's only appearance in the show, a bunch of other episodes of Revice, the kicking the can two-parter of Geats, Hanto/Lakian bonding episode)
Zeztz also had one of the longest pre-production periods of any show in the franchise, people speculate that this was so that the show can use several LED CGI backgrounds like King-Ohger

>>23330574
Thank you, that means >>23330305 is a photoshop
As far as I'm aware yamato isn't a leaker and just does fanarts based on descriptions

>>23330762
>Unrelated but there's a popular meme in Japan that the reason Takahashi is working so much in Kamen Rider is because Toei is holding his family hostage
I thought that was just 5ch inside jokes

>>23330762
Knowing that Zeztz is most likely a KAMI season is making me hard

>>23330762
>lupin writer
So he's anime writer first then goes to toku?

>>23329990
HOW THE FUCK DID THEY GET YOUNGER??

>>23330778
His first stab at toku was writing Drive TYPE Tokujo. Then I guess Omori decided to upgrade his career by putting him on Ex-Aid.

>>23330778
Yeah before Type Tokujo he did that manga Monstaboo and that Lupin the Third anime. He's also doing the upcoming Lupin movie.

>>23330773
But it's full of cgi/green screen like kingohger. It's a bad attitude, rider is mostly practical.

>>23330769
It started like that but became mainstream enough that even Takahashi made a joke about it in an Uchuusen interview

>>23330788
My cope theory is that the protagonist will be played by Kenta Nitta and he'll fight out of suit a lot outside the dream world

>>23330788
King-Ohger's not only wasting Kami but also NabeJun.

>>23330791
Just checked on him and he's 40 this year?
I know Gozyu Tyranno and Omega are both 31 but would be crazy if Zeztz getting someone around that age too.

>>23330792
We got Fujita for Rider that year do I didn't mind it that much but it's a shame that we didn't get more Kami episodes.
I remember Kami making a comment that he was having a withdrawal syndrome during King-Ohger because he desperately wanted to blow up things but due to the led screen most of the explosions had to be simulated.

>>23330792
>>23330795
Then this year will be the same because fujita cannot be doing this for another year so it must be NabeJun all over again..but is there any other action director in toei?

>>23330801
There were two suit actors that were training to be action directors so maybe they'll get promoted? But we'll most likely get NabeJun agaim

hopefully zeztz is closer sangou in terms of overall color

>>23330804
Which ones?

>>23330815
Picrel and Yasuhiro Takeuchi, known for being Bohma Zulten, Dongoros, Tetra Boy, Shishi Ranger's secondary suit actor, OhBlue, Bacchus Wrath, Red Puncher, Yugande, Ginga Green, GoGreen, TimeBlue, V-Rex Robo, GaoYellow, Zolda's secondary suit actor, Hurricane Yellow, AbareBlue, Smoky, Bouken Blue, Geki Blue, Go-On Green, ShinkenGreen, Gosei Red, GokaiGreen, Blue Buster, Kyoryu Black, Ryugen's secondary actor, ToQ4gou, Ki Nigger, Zyuoh Lion, Garu, Lupin Blue, RyusoulBlack, Kiramai Blue, Zyuran and Saru Brother.
But I'm unsure of how avaliable Takeuchi is since he's occasionally playing some characters in Gozyuger like Don Momotaro, Tokimeki No.1, VulEagle, GaoKing and some of Garyudo's summons like Gosei Red and Spade Ace.
Danki Sakabe also underwent action direction training but he's GozyuTiranno, I really think we'll just get NabeJun again rather than anyone new.

>>23330811
Who's that guy under KickHopper (besides Punch)?

>>23330848
Kamen Rider 3-go and that’s 4-go besides him (not Punch)

Did the new Kuuga exhibition finally explain why we didn't get a Kuuga movie?

>>23330838
MinatoP and jun watanabe gonna be a combo again this time

All that's left is the main actor, is he going for experienced actor or minato will do the same practice in gotchard (which is trust his own instinct)

>>23330853
>MinatoP and jun watanabe gonna be a combo again
Sentai and Rider swapped action directors that year, Boonboomger got NabeJun while Gotchard got Hirofumi Fukuzawa

>>23330856
Damn i got them mixed lol

Just have to lower my expectations given gavv is also a mixed bag for me..

God I wanna hear the English callouts of the belt so bad

>>23330977
>Amane playing an office assistant role in another show
She looks so cute

>>23330785
Which Lupin anime? This is important.

>>23331049
Lupin the 3rd Part IV (TV Series 2015)

>>23330778
>>23331049
Many Lupin III series

>>23331085
>>23331210
well if he's fairly prolific in anime then just how minato called him to do full year rider show? even urobuchi have to commit to one project only during gaim

>>23331216
I mean he's already written SO much KR why not come back and write Zeztz while he's doing anime stuff on the side, probably means it's a side writer season again like Zero-One and Geats.

>>23331210
>All that Lupin III
>Tiger & Bunny
wtf I love writer-san now

>>23331223
geats was all takahashi though..

Speaking of Takahashi, besides Minato Takano, he had one more understudy named Yusuke Naito. He's already working on Geats blu-ray minisode special and also sub-writer for Ride Kamens
https://www.queen-b.jp/posts/56342135/

>>23331212
Still kind of insane that one of the earliest leaks we got for Gavv were drawings of Legend Forms that just never popped up.

>>23331235
Who will win the Toku Wars, the Inoue Dynasty or the Takahashi Clan?

>>23331305
Inoue, he's got main writer daughter for sentai anniversary.

>>23331305
Everytime this place saying Takahashi as in the staff I keep confusing him with either the Ex-Aid/Zero-One/Geats writer or the Ghost/Saber producer.

Can i get rivalry like S-cry-ed in zetzt?
Takahashi likes anti-hero so much why not make it gaim ver.6666?

>>23331216
I don't think he has any tv show announced for the upcoming year. A new Lupin III anime movie written by him is coming out, but that's a movie, so it's a one shot and had to be written a long time ago in order to be animated. He also only wrote a 3 month tv drama in the beginning of 2025 ("Kuroha" female investigator) and nothing afterwards.

So, his schedule so far seems open.

>>23331296
It's kind of bizarre. The leaks seemed real, but they didn't use those designs even to advertise the forms in merch or anything, just released the collectibles by themselves.

>>23330848
I get the reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot6cjU1omVo

>>23331576
I can only assume that there were plans for them like usual, but mid way through pre-production the decision to not have a Gotchard Crossover led to Toei going "Eh, let's not do Legend Rider stuff this time".

>>23331573
And another anime movie in july...

What were they thinking?

>>23331779
If you look at it as a form change for Demons instead of a whole ass separate Rider it works. I mean it's still ass, but it works more akin to a form change.

I don't know why but the OP of the next thread never linked it here:
>>23331734

>>23330925
>gavv is also a mixed bag
a bag of gummies?