Do micro missile pods exist outside of fiction? I'm fascinated by this weapon system and trying to find more footage of it, but I've only seen it in Stardust and Armored Core.I'd like to see it used more, even if it has to be other works of fiction
I do wonder if it can be used in gravity of if it'll struggle like funnels..

>>23332076 (OP)
>Do micro missile pods exist outside of fiction?
>>>/k/

>>23332088
Shut the fuck up nigger.

>>23332076 (OP)
>does magic object that clearly doesn't exist in reality exist in reality?
No.

>A gquuux thread died for this

>>23332076 (OP)
Tiny rockets don't carry enough propellant to meaningfully move, or push a large enough warhead to matter. The closest you'll get are smart submunitions like the BLU-108 or SMArt 155.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myuZUxS3Uww

>>23332088
>>23332114
>>23332245
The closest real-life equivalent are laser-guided rockets:
>Take an off-the-shelf Zuni
>put a guidance pod and fins
>F-15s can carry 42 smart missiles now

>>23332076 (OP)
Only cluster bombs exists.

>>23332266
Those aren't micro at all, dipshit. Even the Hydra rockets with APKWS aren't micro.
>smart missile
It's a partially guided, air-to-ground rocket that relies on a spotter continuously keeping a laser designator on the target and are fired singularly. A far cry from the "chuck this big thing over there and it autonomously swarms out to merc the enemy" that the OP cares about. It's functionally no different than a hellfire.

>Missile pod fires
>It launches micro missiles
>The micro missiles open to fire more missiles
>Those missiles begin to open and fire even more, smaller missiles.

>>23332349
That's why I said "THE CLOSEST REAL-LIFE EQUIVALENT", you illiterate dumbass. Choking a warhead, guidance, control surfaces and rocket motor(s) on a keg-sized platform is physically impossible.

>relies on a spotter continuously keeping a laser designator on the target and are fired singularly.
Newer versions have infrared guidance. And South Korea is developing a fully fire-and-forget Hydra-derived rocket.

>air-to-ground rocket
They're testing them in air-to-air roles against cruise missiles and Shahed-type drones.

>It's functionally no different than a hellfire
It's functionally very different, since you can fit seven rockets in a pod in the same rail you can fit a single Hellfire. Also, unlike rocket pods, Hellfires haven't been fitted to fast-movers: only gunship helicopters and Predator-type drones.

>>23332357
The microest missiles are going to have like firecracker warheads if that, though I would still very much like to see that.

>>23332488
>doesn't understand the difference between functionally the same and actually the same
Well, there's no point in talking to the illiterate. Have fun.

>>23332503
Okay, so what makes them "functionally" the same if you want to argue semantics? By your logic, a VW Bug and a Lambo Countach are also the same.

>>23332076 (OP)
aesthetically the most similar thing I can think of are those fucking wacky german bomblet dispensers. Of course those drop bombs, not guided missiles.

>forgot the fucking picture

>>23332076 (OP)
I thought missiles were cucked in UC timeline because of the minovsky particles from reactors fucking guidance up.

>>23332526
yes radio and wireless signals don't work, but dumb fire missiles work, as well as fly-by-wire. At least until psycommu missiles or funnel missiles show up

>>23332531
I had always assumed they were magnetic since the one Zaku that gets hit by a couple but you see several others curve past it but miss later on.

>>23332266
>>23332343
>>23332488
Thanks Anons, these are great. I love weapons that split into more weapons.

>>23332526
Heat seeking should still work even with minovsky particles

There's even a series of guns made in the 1960's that fired micro-missiles. It was stupid expensive and inaccurate though.

The type of weapons in OP are probably possible, but not practical

>>23332976
it won't work if the minovsky particles fry the electronics that enable heat seeking

>>23332999
That only happens if the particle density is high enough, which only happens in really big battles or deliberate spreading of M particles. Even then they disperse quickly, so they only work as active defense.

>>23332343
Lmao bomblets

>>23332526
>>23332531
>>23332976
>>23332999
for your consideration

>>23332534
>magnetic
not really used as guidance tech.

>>23333060
>>23332526
>>23332531
>>23332976
>>23332999

>>23333061
>>23333060
wouldn't be surprised if there was just a mini algorithm inside that just seeks targets

>>23333062
yes but the argument of "missiles are too small to be shielded" was just an asspull in the first place

>>23333062
>>23333085
Minovsky particles being the basis for the need of MS combat be damned.

>>23333114
At this point it's just easier to lean into it and say we just really wanted it

>>23333114
They still have to launch the missiles at a knife-fighting range. They can't reliably hit things from one Side to another, which is what would happen in other less space fantasy settings like Gundam but without its gimmick particle.

>>23333021
I wonder who even came up with the term.

>>23333060
Gotcha
>>23333061
Isn't Earth better at dispersing the particles due to winds? But then again in 0083 Kou locks on to Burning as well. I guess it's one of those don't think too hard about it things but it's fun to discuss

>>23333114
MS simply cannot exist in a world with BVR. A mobile suit is just an upscaled infantryman at the end of the day. Putting them in base jabbers or making them swim wont make them any better. At the very best you can give an MS BVR capability. But then what would be the point of arms and legs and fancy swords and cool boosters? Literal himars truck would be better than a Zaku because its smaller and cheaper and isnt expected to get into mudfights with other equally useless upscaled infantry.
Even flight capable suits are worse than planes. Hell even a Xi gundam for all its super science would die to a current day fighter jet if only it had missiles that could penetrate its armors. There would litetally be no dogfight because it would just be missiles from beyond visual recognition and that fancy funnel missile shit would be the exact same thing but wouldnt need a rare space mutant.

>>23333447
funnel missiles would be immune to chaff and flares. They could also be launched at different trajectories since they don't rely on following the target exactly via thermal tracking or radar guidance, they could intercept the target from different angles so funnel missile evasion means you're not trying to break the missile's lock on you, you have to either shoot down the missiles or break the enemy pilot's concentration to get away from them

>>23333452
>blah blah blah blah
Non-funnel missiles are cheaper and easier for mass firing.

>>23333453
>Fire a gorillion regular missiles
>miss all of them because the MS braps tomino gas
>Fire 3 or 4 funnel missiles
>dead/incapcitated target if the enemy isn't plot armor'd
The issue won't be manufacturing it's finding the pilots that can use the missile.

>>23333453
why aren't you giving shit to >>23333447 for being an even bigger paragraph?

>Non-funnel missiles are cheaper and easier for mass firing
no one cares about cheap, the Zssa was not a winning mobile suit design

>>23333452
Riddhe was so shit lol

>>23333458
Uhhhhh box barrages and timer fuses? Cartoon MS just have narrative convenience but a Zssa shooting 20 millions and making them explode around neer peer level tech would still wound or even cripple an MS that it doesnt outright kill.

>>23333461
>the pilot was bad
This shit would be irrelevant with bvr. If you are acquired you die. Slicing a missile with your cool jedi sword wont help because there would be a dozen more on their way.

>>>blah blah blah blah
come on man don't be a dick
Non-funnel missiles miss, whether it be due to newtype bullshit or just the minovsky particles fucking with their targeting. It's why we don't really see them as often in larger battles, and how even in smaller battles they can still be dodged, at which point dumbfires are also very cheap if not cheaper. Besides, given that mobile suit combat often revolves around beam and bullet plinking or CQC, missiles don't really offer as much beyond fucking with the enemy due to aforementioned issues. Could always try Newtype-based missile guidance systems but at that point just use funnels lmao

>>23333467
fucking forgot to respond>>23333453

>>23333463
>Uhhhhh box barrages and timer fuses? Cartoon MS just have narrative convenience
So why the hell did the real world jump onto guided munitions bandwagon and nobody bothers with mass saturation attacks anymore?

>>23333472
Uhhh because modern weapons can do both??????
Idiot!!!!!!!

>>23333474
Who the fuck is intentionally firing off HIMARS blind with no guidance?

A bunch of cash strapped folks welding an attack heli's rocket pod to a Toyota don't count either

>>23333492
You are stupid.....

>>23333498
It's important to remember that a big part of mobile suit success was their combination of speed and armor, as well as the ability to pack firepower. You've got a giant robot with tough armor that can withstand munitions and can still move very fast in space, and the armor it can carry is comparable to a similar sized tank (if not superior due to distributing the weight along the 'body' while retaining speed esp. in space combat).
A mass saturation attack is less useful because the mobile suit will either dodge it if it's far enough OR the vehicle mentioned will be destroyed beforehand. Hypothetically they could still be used but given that even IRL we rarely do mass saturation attacks against mobile targets you can see why it wouldn't be pursued as an option.

>>23333061
Love the camera work and animation in that scene.

>>23332349
Those aren't micro at all
neither is the OPpic

>>23333698
Acshully in the gundam wiki they call it micromissiles.

us just released a homing kit for their rocket pods you typically see on apache helicopters, so f`15s literally carry 50-60 missles each now.

also rapid dragon is similar design concept to missle pod.

>>23333447
And yet the infantryman
>Remains the basic unit of the army
>Is superior to nearly all other terrestrial weapons platforms
>Can inflict more damage over greater areas over a longer period of time than any other weapons platform
>Increasingly the only effective weapon on the terrestrial battlefield

>>23333447
90% of pop scifi can't work with "real" BVR. You instantly have to make your entire setting about treaties to not blow each others cities up and billion mile missile prods, and its even worse in space. BVR is better at killing interesting writing than it is any conventional weapons. Great stuff if you just want to nuke each other to death in the first five minutes of the show I guess.
Anyway absolutely everyone always forgets that the MS won the military technology arms race because it could be deployed from a space craft, defeat the defenders or a colony, and then climb inside the colony and continue fighting. It just turned out to be good at other things too.
People always go "erm missile trucks are more efficient! bvr missile launching!" like that's gonna capture a colony.

>>23335427
Yes, because most reasonable people want Spacenoids dead.

>>23335427
I mean, isn't that a problem with the writers lack of creativity? If BVR is dangerous and realistic- you'd set up interception systems- early warning systems- advanced radar- Stealth technology to get around it. Etc.
You could use a devastating BVR barrage to wipe a station out and the character just so happened to be outside when it happens.

>>23332076 (OP)
>in gravity
I reckon something similar can be done with miniature battery-powered kamikaze drones, with wings that unfold for gliding and maybe a small propeller for a little thrust.

>>23335339
infantry don't require any special manufacturing process or technical know-how to make, that helps too

>>23335427
Uhhhh, if you take a himars and make it space capable it would be better than a Zaku...

>>23335438
Yeah, maybe even a particle that obscures your ability to transmit and scan over long distances.
Man every second scifi already does this. Everyone has some handwave for why the story actually gets to happen and they don't just instantly launch a thousand missiles at everything that could possibly threaten them.
>>23335541
And when it has to get through a big mobile suit sized door with a mobile suit sized doorknob on it, who will you come crying back to? That's right, the big robots with hands the right size for it.
Next, try to make a show anyone actually wants to watch about space himars, and make all the boys bug their parents about buying them chars custom space himars. Much bigger problem.

>>23335566
The real answer is that someone fucked up the measurement conversion when they started on the first colony cylinder and didn't want to admit it once the project was already underway.
And so the Mobile Worker was born.

>>23335566
>chars custom space himars
Don't threaten me with a good time anon

>>23335566
The Rick-Himars can just remotely operate doors. Failing that it can deploy drones that can connect to interfaces.
Also when it enters gravity, the rick himars can deploy high mobility W.H.E.E.L.S. that is both suitable for gravity as well as fuel efficient.

>>23333817
yeah but they are huge

>>23335612
They are micro compared to real bigboi missiles.