is it safe to say at this point that anyone who disliked gquuuuuux, complained about the "muh pacing", "muh chacter development", etc, is a pleb filtered by pure tsurumakino?

>>23336374 (OP)
GCope

>>23336374 (OP)
Anon the only people mad or GBitch fags, the act was finally dropped.

>kojumbo dick sucker opinion mattering
>kojumbo opinion mattering

>>23336412
>GBitch fags
You mean wfm enjoyers or the ones who won't stop bitching about it and insist on calling it gbitch because that's very funny to them?

>>23336374 (OP)
based

That's cool. Here are some takeaways from dissatisfied Japanese fans.
>Episode 9 was the turning point where opinion soured on it
>Tsurumaki calls GQuuuuuuX 'Shin Gundam', and specifies he means 'Correct Gundam'
>Director Tsurumaki was too interested in adding Nogizaka references and not in actually telling any story
>Machu, Nyaan, Shuuji are basically just there to hype up the OG characters
>if they wanted to tell a Zeon wins story, they should have done that
>if they wanted to do clan battles, they should have done that
>Machu's goal was to visit Earth - she visits Earth but just to go to a brothel, lmao
>why are the characters being moved around by the words of total strangers? Because the strangers are characters we know
>People liked the new characters, they just became puppets for the old characters
>People liked the old characters, they were changed for the worse and died haphazardly
>"It's so lame to make excuses and explanations on the color PR account after the broadcast. Don't air an unfinished product that needs retroactive corrections on TV."
>"Isn't it crazy that Machu and Nyaan have nothing to do with the core setting of the story, "Lalah has been restarting the world line many times for Char"?"
>"I hesitate to even call it a shitty anime."

At this point, episode 12 is going to determine whether it's above or below G-Saviour.

It's basically WfM all over again.
Either overly ambitious or just plain neglectful but either way it ends up as an everything stew.

With episode 2 being devoted entirely to a recap I pretty much figured how the rest of it was going to go. It's not even a pacing issue it's just a mess of what I can only assume is the conflicting desires of the staff working on it and the constraints of deadlines and budgets.

Hideo Kojima also likes Joker 2

>>23336374 (OP)
>literal magical girl transformation scene
Absolute cringekino

>>23336374 (OP)
QuuuuuuX is by design a series made to get 50 year old japanese men and the dirtiest wiki crawler weebs to pic rel at the screen.

Ask Kojima about his thoughts on episode 5 of the Crying Freeman OVA

>>23336567
Interestinly I've heard Gquuuuuux cats say that it's a series for old Japanese men, going japanese boys, old Japanese women, going jApanese women, old fans, new fans, not for fans and for a global audience. Not all at the same tims, kind you, usually as a defence against criticism and always conveniently changing the target audience. Curious. Maybe GQuuuuuuux was made for nobody after all

>>23336563
>magical girl transformation
Why do people keep saying that
His ass wasn't naked for a 30 second sequence
He got a flash changed costume after getting hit with Kira-Kira
They've been talking about sparkles for the entire season, things could be a lot worse for you

>>23336493
>Nogizaka
The only place that posts about that is shitposters from yaraon which are just baitcentral and nothing of value.

No one who uses the term kino is worth agreeing with.

>>23336601
HOLY ESL

not canon to UC universe. The retarded contrived le estoteric name tells me everything i need to know about the show. not watching it.

>>23336864
I've seen remarks about it on 5ch, BBS, and anikore reviews. Almost all just take it as pretty innocent, Tsurumaki referencing an idol group he likes.

>>23336374 (OP)
Doesn't Kojima regularly produce and praise dog shit?

>>23336374 (OP)
I like the show but the pacing could be better. It really needed at least 20 something episodes.

>>23336374 (OP)
you know you can just go and watch FLCL or NGE you dont have to insist on making gundam worse or demanding the fans like this shit its okay no ones gonna judge you

>>23336534
Eh, I don't think so.
I think it's like a reverse-WfM.

WfM felt like it was pretending to ignore the vast history of Gundam and turning it into some gay ass Yu-Gi-Oh duel shit with lesbians. It made Gundam trivial to make it "cool" with young people.
GQuuuuuuX on the other hand presents an entirely new setting and set of characters, then proceeds to shit on them to pander to OG fans. Like, the ancient, old ass fucks who are dying off right now. They even explicitly made it a point about how ClanBat is lethal "unlike that other pussy ass duel system."

Maybe they arrive at the same destination, but they took completely opposite routes.

If anything Kojima liking it reinforces how dogshit it is.

>>23336374 (OP)
Kojima lost the plot a while ago and has been coasting on his legacy, really sad to see but him enjoying gcucks is only a further condemnation of it in my eyes

>>23336374 (OP)
>is it safe to say the people who dont like this show have genuine criticisms and aren't just turning their brains off to see shitty 3D fight scenes and moeshit characters

>>23337258
>>23337249
Are you telling me you don't trust this true Hillary's opinion?

>show establishes new cast of characters and paints them as the protagonists
>suddenly shoves them aside in favor of giving the focus to the old, popular characters

is this UC Seed Destiny?

>>23336374 (OP)
defenders of this show talk like epic snarky redditors
you honestly cant fathom that the different designs, different tone, different, characterization, and complete lack of any real war or political drama would alienate UC fans? actual autistics missing the forest for the trees

>>23336374 (OP)
>k*no
People saying this retarded /tv/ buzzword ought to be executed.

>>23336567
>>23336909
And do worse to wojakshitters.

>>23336374 (OP)
>washed up boomer creams his jeans to an anime girl
and how exactly does this fix the pace, the character development, etc

>>23337276
>let me justify dogshit with my superior textual analysis and media literacy experience
many such cases lmao

>>23337284
>>23337287
>>23337322
>>23337328
Bot posts.

>>23336412
pretty sure the gqux defenders are the one seething at people who enjoy gwitch. they just see it as cutesy female gundam with episodic duels and dont understand why gwitch gets a pass and their new favourite series doesn't instead if just accepting not everyone has to like the same stuff and moving on

>>23336412
>>23337341
I like and defend both.

>>23337336
so bots have more original opinions than you at this point?

>>23337349
I never saw and shit on both.

>>23337349
Get the fuck out of my /m/, disgusting moeshitter.

>>23337349
I enjoyed gwitch even though I was sceptical initially and enjoyed parts of gqux but just it disappointing over all
that doesn't matter though obviously. yet the people shitting on the show and praising the show act like whoever wins the argument will inform all future gundam projects like there's some war for the future of anime happening here its fucking retarded

>>23337355
Go back to /dbs/ pablo.

>>23337355
how anyone can defend such a dogshit trannime art style is beyond me, fucking insulting the the fans

>>23337244
It isn't like FLCL or NGE, though. Comparing them to GQuuux is down right insulting.

>>23337355
>>23337367
/m/ was moe before you were even born.

>>23337436
>anno slop has always been shit let us ruin gundam too
no.

>>23336374 (OP)
Still a bad show and Kojima is still a bad director. Get your own opinion.

>>23337436
you do understand that different shows have different tones and tell different types of stories
if an art style clashes with what people wanted its fair game for criticism without being a condemnation of the style outright

>>23337352
>>23337355
>>23337367
>>23337441
>>23337445
Bot posts.

>>23337436
she doesn't look like a deep sea creature or act like an insufferable bitch so its hardly comparable anon

Gundam was always moe.

>>23337548
That moe wasn't half assed or a detrement to other parts of the show

>>23337548
having a cute girl because you have a character who happens to be a young girl and behave that way isn't the same as making a serious from the ground up to focus on the emotions of a cartoonishly infantile 17 year old

>>23337701
>cartoonishly infantile 17 year old
Machu is a realistically written girl.

>>23337766
How does that contradict what he said

>>23337449
>>23337569
>>23337701
>>23337795
Bot posts.

>>23337799
>I said it again mom, now they have to like the show

>>23337795
It's not cartoonish if it's realistic, it's grounded.

>>23337766
>its very realistic for a 17yo girl to secretly be getting into underground life and death matches because she's mad at her mother
okay buddy

>>23337822
An allegory for interracial dating

>>23337825
Kek

>>23337276
The original psued.

>>23337362
That's fair. I'm not going to pretend they're perfect shows. They're got flaws, boy do they, they even share some, and I can understand disliking both or either for them. But I still like them both.
>yet the people shitting on the show and praising the show act like whoever wins the argument will inform all future gundam projects like there's some war for the future of anime happening here its fucking retarded
People just wanna be mad.

>>23337822
>woman does stupid shit because some bad boy makes her wet
And so is water. Realistic to a T.

>>23336412
Not everyone hates one or the other, there are an extremely small number who like both, and more that hate both. And more people just hate on the show for its episode count not handling enough until it's too late. Another experiment made by Bandai, if you will. 12 episodes of Gundam is never good, unless it's an OVA, and this is no OVA.

Gqx is a good Gundam anime. It's not that deep.

>MUH OVAS
God I hate americans.

>>23337974
08th MS and 0083 are the cancer that ruined Gundam.

>>23337981
Only a cuck would prefer GCucks over either of those.

>>23337974
Don't be jealous of our fresh cooked hamburgers.

>>23337983
You seem obsessed with cuckoldry to a dangerous degree.

>>23338010
Well, he was raised on 0083 and 8th MS.

>>23338020
>>23338010
Not to mention there are hints of NTR to a degree if you consider the manga of 0080. But let's dismiss that as unanswered until Mikemoto somehow picks this story back up. Just gonna question where it will show up since the manga was deleted from MangaDex.

Anti-GQuuuuuuX sentiment is fueled by 2 things: "new=bad" general sentiment (which, to be fair 99% of the time is the right sentiment to have, but in cases like this, modwits might get overwhelmed and miss on the actual good 1% like in this case) and most importantly and although they are a minority, they are loud: the anti-Anno/Evangelion crowd from the western internet.

>>23336493
this
>>23336374 (OP)
>gquuuuuux
trash tier anime

at least putting brothel in anime is a good thing. Too bad it's mecha anime

>>23336601
>s for old Japanese men
no one in Japan watch it. Gundam was a series for singe women.

>>23336493
>actually Lalah can create a whole alternate timeline by being thristy for Char cock. And having two alpha pyschommu in the same universe create rift in time and space that can bring stuff from other timeline.

Its below G-saviour already

>>23338031
I don't dislike GQuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuX because it's new nor because Anno is involved in it (the main culprit behind this mess is Tsurumaki), I dislike it because it's poorly written and paced, the nostalgiawank and Newtype bullshit are cranked up to obnoxious levels, and the designs are ass for the most part.

"the Gundam said" is the new "sorry demo".

>>23336493
>b..but the cute silly girls who are me irl
t. gcucked troons

>>23338103
The gundam said you are dumb.

>>23336493
>>23338085
It's going to turn out to be Lalah as a dreamer in a lotus machine, dreaming up alternate realities all the time, until finally snapping back to UC-proper, in her true dying moments - isn't it?

Basically, the NGE ending rehashed?
Because Anno is a hack.

>>23338153
sorry demo...

>>23336563
I like how he his outfitt is magically transmogrified right in front of the Machu and the only thing she has "wowzers you're the red comet? :O" and Char is like "mhm this makes sense because that's what I wore that one time" - no it fucking doesnt lmao.

>>23336493
a lot of these are incredibly stupid, and honestly makes me wonder if nips even understand nuanced, show-don't-tell storytelling.

>machu's goal was to visit Earth - she visits just to go to a brothel lmao

yeah because Lalah was calling to her. once she got to earth, guess what she found in the ocean? that VERY ocean she wanted to swim in so bad? wonder why she wanted to do that......

>Machu, Nyaan, Shuuji are basically just there to hype up the OG characters

we don't know yet that they are NOT the OG characters. still something about Machu's mom imo, and we have no idea who shuji is. we also know nyaan is a cyber newtype? so....something going on there.

>>if they wanted to tell a Zeon wins story, they should have done that

is that what this story is? can Zeon win? can the Feddies win? does ANYONE WIN IN A FUCKING WAR?! IS THAT THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF GUNDAM?!?!

>peopled liked the new characters, just puppets for old characters

bro the gundam franchise has been rehasing the same tropes for 50 years. i don't mind them literally just having the old characters be themselves and influencing the show instead of a "new" character just clearly being a copy of them.

>changed for the worse
changed for the worse? what characters are even changed? everyone is pretty much the exact same, just events changed slightly.

>machu and nyaan have nothing to do with the core story?

we don't know that yet, however, we've already learned that pretty much only Machu is capable of running the Gquuuux with no limiter, which was required for freeing Lalah. pretty sure that freeing Lalah.....is indeed having something to do with the core story.

i guess even nips are retarded.

>>23336374 (OP)
That's been obvious since day one.

saying something is show don't tell isn't some magical thing that automatically makes something good

>>23338196
as a comic book guy, it DOES actually.
it's absolutely incredible to see how people miss details, when they are literally SHOWN to you. this happens a ton in comics, you get people who are like "BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND!" and it's less of a thing in animated media because it's usually incredibly dumbed down, but it's still a huge issue.

so if a show like Stand Alone Complex had EVEN MORE DIALOGUE to flesh out all the details that shown, but never spoken, you think that would....make it better?

in a 12 episode show, you don't have much of a chance to "tell" everything anyway.

>>23338187
>a lot of these are incredibly stupid
>doesn't answer aqny infact some of the answers are straight up wrong

The absolute fucking state of GQtrannies

>>23338218
so according to you even if something is shown to be total shit its good because they showed you it was shit instead of told you. okay. you're a comic book guy alright.

>>23338259
no, it means there are details that are important to the story that you will miss if you only care about dialogue and overt storytelling.

>>23338253
>straight up wrong
okay which ones? so you know exactly what's going to happen in episode 12? you know that Machu's mom is ______? and that makes Machu _____?

>>23338253
the first one is correct; she didn't "just go to a brothel" and even if that was literally all she did; she want and met Lalah. that's important, don't you think? not like she was just visiting the town's saloon looking for a fuck lmao

second one is correct, because you don't know that Machu is NOT an OG character, not Shuji, nor Nyaan.

no one wins in war. this is a central theme to Gundam and basically the most singular idea across all gundam franchises. if you fight, if you war, you die. the gundam itself represents war in almost every story. that's why the gundam is usually destroyed. you aren't "supposed" to really LIKE the gundam, because it's ultimately a killing machine (unless you use it to do a bunch of laundry)

new characters in gundam ARE puppets for old characters. even Gwitch characters still had all the old tropes, right?

the only character who has actually changed is chalia, and i don't think changing a one-off character is really pissing anyone off.

pls retort with an actual post next time, the adults are talking.

>>23336493
>neat idea of what if Char captured the Gundam
>already done nearly T H I R T Y years ago in Gihren's Greed
>lol yeah nah Char isn't the mc but *not Kaworu, a jellyfish, and a cat are
"we need something to fill the run time until the plot happens, kids like tournaments so we'll call ours clan battle, also we'll have MAVS to which it sound sciency"
>member the thing that was a thing from things that'll show the writing is rich and layered

>>23338270
MAV is a japanese wordplay, it means "Mabu" which is a term for a friend.

you are indeed too retarded.

>>23338282
Sore demo the show is still a mess, FACT!!!

>>23338292
>is a mess
come on man, it's no G Reco lol. and i liked G Reco, but holy FUCK the pacing and plot of that show was clearly too much for the number of episodes.

i don't think people are lost on the plot of this one. i think....you might be lmao

>>23338264
>she didn't "just go to a brothel"
She did. She spent a grand total of of 5 seconds looking at the ocean and gravity, something she wouldn't shut up about prior, then moved on.


>she want and met Lalah
She didn't even know who Lalah was how the fuck did she want to meet her outside thanking her for saving her

>twtiter screencap thread
This should be ban worthy

>>23338294
I'm not lost on the plot at all, I just don't like slop. A cool what if Char captured the Gundam and changed history story has become Neon Genesis Gundam. Fanboys in charge of making things is almost as bad as a soulless corporate committee.

>>23338187
>here are some retarded magical explanations
how does this improve my cool show about robots at war?

>>23338187
>is that what this story is? can Zeon win? can the Feddies win? does ANYONE WIN IN A FUCKING WAR?! IS THAT THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF GUNDAM?!?!
oh fuck off you absolute pseud retard. the show doesn't show us anything even approaching the real struggles a government faces when trying to occupy an enemy or recover after a war. the fed veterans motives are as stupid as a us soldier leaving his family and children to risk his life smashing up Mitsubishi cars up to avenge his wingman. it doesn't even go the easy route of "space nazis bad. space nazis liquidate people out of desperation" or some shit
a fucking brat monologues about how she doesn't like her home town and wants to go to the big city essentially and youre pretending its war and peace
fucking hell just go watch evangelion if you wanna feel smart for sympathizing with unrealistically stupid children

>>23338296
>She didn't even know who Lalah was how the fuck did she want to meet her outside thanking her for saving her

holy fuck you really are retarded

>>23338309
the robots aren't at war; they robots are piloted by humans. humans have emotions they rarely understand, and giving people who are emotionally unstable massive killing machines is usually a bad idea. people can't understand one another, and this leads to explosive reactions, literally, as the humans piloting these machines have their consciousness expanded by the human-machine interface.

how the FUCK do you not get this.

>>23338315
>doesn't like her home town and wants to go to the big city essentially

lmao it was lalah calling her to earth.
HOW
THE
FUCK
DO
PEOPLE
NOT
GET
THIS

>>23338315
> fucking brat monologues about how she doesn't like her home town
>unrealistically stupid children

yes because no child has ever done that and children are generally totally not stupid. lmao

>>23338318
Didn't she want to go to earth even before she happened to stumble into the plot? Why would Lalah care to bring along a random shitter who hasn't even awakened her Newtype powers? Why would either of the Lalahs givr a shit about anyone other than Char?

>>23338316
the show isn't about someone who was just following orders or was brainwashed to demonize the enemy. when the fuck does machu feel conflicted about the clan battle people she killed or just the perverse nature of people watching death battles for fun.
newtypism in this show doesn't help someone in combat understand or sympathize with an enemy. its sparkles that make her love a hobo who looks like he was designed by a fujo with his goofy massive hands
stop coping if you like the show thats fine but dont come here and try to bullshit people

>>23338323
>random shitter who hasn't awakened her newtype powers
looks like you'll have to watch episode 12 to find out! who IS machu? who is her mom?

>>23338309
Because not explaining anything and being mysterious automatically makes things avant-garde therefore meaningful and deep.

>>23338322
Shinji is 14 and retarded for a 14 year old
machu is 17 and retarded for someone who should be in first year university
just because youre a dumb fuck doesn't mean everyone was lmao
>>23338325
wow mystery box writing is soooo hecking epic and wholesome

>>23338324
it really sounds like you are upset with the character designs and you want cuter characters so you can masturbate.

>>23338328
I see the inconsistencies and general over exaggerated proportions as a kick in the balls on top of all the other reasons this show disappointed me. that spastic khara running animation style makes me instantly lose interest and yes I know I might be autistic and in the minority

>>23338326
>somehow char returned

>>23338325
Or in the movie that Khara will do that resolves one or two threads while trying to be even more meta and failing.

>>23338328
notice how he didnt address a single one of your points and just projected about fucking underage women because hes a tranimepedo

>>23338316
>>23338318
awesome bro you ever heard of failing to pull something off if I feed you some of my shit on a fancy plate and tell you its michelin star would you defend it because I had good intentions kek would youre superior textual analysis skills make it taste better

>>23338332
A cool idea wasted on a fanboy's wet dream. Maybe it could have been better if it was longer? Bandai seems to not know what the fuck to do with Gundam so they are panicking and doing anything they thing will work.

>>23338335
khara will follow its gainax roots and make a reference filled copy of a copy of a copy when they dont have the gundam rights anymoe and the same morons will defend it

>>23338344
> Bandai seems to not know what the fuck to do with Gundam
so many wars and conflicts have happened since the 80s they have more than enough inspiration for a good gundam series especially considering how much insurgencies and drones have dominated combat in the past 20 years as well as ptsd in veterans and post combat suicide. perfect for newtype emotional stuff

the problem is that I dont think there's a market for that anymore. we're a niche who cant make gundam as profitable or have the cultural impact it once had and bandai knows it

>>23338348
this. maybe in the future some weeb veteran of the second Iran war will make a story based on his experience policing tehran but until then were just going to get copies of copies of copies written by people who dont get it

>>23338348
Zoomers have never experienced a war (yet) this shit is not appealing to them. They need flashy fights with particles smeared on the screen like JJK.

>>23338359
zoomers are just faggots. I didn't go to war but grew up interested in fighter jets, tanks, ww2, Vietnam, etc
every zoomer I know has literally zero interest in it. feminized males through and through

>>23338362
first felt this feeling when younger male relatives had 0 interest in cars were fucking cooked bro
autism epidemic my ass these fuckers cant appreciate anything mechanical or manly

>>23338359
Real talk. All zoomers care about is self-inserting and shipping shit. Characters just have to be 'likeable', it doesn't matter if they have agency or an actual arc.

Each generation is more self-obsessed than the last one.

>>23338365
Like if you don't understand pic related, then you shouldn't be writing fiction. Full stop.

>>23338365
>>23338369
And then shit like Witch From Mercury which is written for retards by retards is misconstrued as deep because MUH UTENA and MUH TEMPEST. You fuckers talking about WfM and The Tempest like any of you pieces of shit know what an iamb is.

>>23338365
zoomers cant even read third person perspective anymore
maybe thats why the trannies just want goofy girls to self insert as rather than well written characters in a well written narrative even if its not something they can see themselves doing

Guys, I just want to intentionally confuse Billy for Kit here and talk about an ABAB CDCD EFEF GG rhyme scheme on 4chan's Mecha board.

>>23338374
gwitch tried to have compelling sci fi stuff even if it didn't pull it off and the ending was shit
a clone copy of someone acting as the key piece to allow their consciousness to exist through some future technology that seems alien to us is interesting even if they fucked it up and committed the same modern anime sins that qux did
it helps it to feel a lot less soulless

>>23338382
Real talk.

I honestly really do think Ichiro Okouchi is just a fucking idiot. He is the M. Night Shyamalan of anime.

>dude celebrity opinions!!!!

>>23338382
>it helps it to feel a lot less soulless
yup soulless. gcuck stinks of people who arent fans stepping into something well established and "fixing it" or "modernizing it" because theyre just so much smarter

>>23338264
>no one wins in war. this is a central theme to Gundam and basically the most singular idea across all gundam franchises. if you fight, if you war, you die. the gundam itself represents war in almost every story. that's why the gundam is usually destroyed. you aren't "supposed" to really LIKE the gundam, because it's ultimately a killing machine (unless you use it to do a bunch of laundry)
Feds won. AEUG won. Londo Bell won. League Militaire won. Gundam pilots won. Crossbone Vanguard won. Moon people won. Orb won. Celestial Being won. Gjallarhorn won. The only shows where nobody truly wins are stuff like Stardust Memory, War in the Pocket and Witch from Mercury, because those shows didn't really have depictions of conventional wars.
Tomino has never claimed Gundam was anti-war inherently. Some shows are more anti-war than others (Turn A, 0080, G-Witch), while others embrace violence (SEED, Wing, Zeta).

>>23338398
its like the reddit commies who claim start trek is anti gun for some reason
gundam was never antiwar. sometimes it condemns war and human proclivity for conflict and sometimes war is necessary people can fight for the right reasons even if its a tragedy. gundam and newtypes more specifically are a realistic commentary on why people fight and understanding why people are motivated to do horrible things in war

>>23338395
or just made by comity

>>23338403
>this militaristic meritocracy is communist because they trust the science
and every character ever is a troon or secretly gay. hang your local Redditor

>>23336374 (OP)
Gundam as a whole was never good.
UC especially so.

>>23338403
>who claim start trek is anti gun for some reason
The Star trek phaser is one of the deadliest hand weapons in media. That thing does not fuck around

>>23338398
>Feds won. AEUG won. Londo Bell won. League Militaire won. […] Orb won.
Yeah, they sure “won”. Getting decimated and barely avoiding the worst possible outcome is such a win.

>others embrace violence (SEED, Wing
Those are two of the most anti-war Gundam shows after Turn A.

Why did they stop making good gundam shows after 00 S1?

>>23338398
lmao absolutely none of that is even close to true.

>embrace violence like zeta
except spending THE ENTIRE SHOW TELLING HALF THE CAST NOT TO FIGHT; AND THOSE **EXACT** CHARACTERS ALL END UP DYING?!?!

>>23336493
>Don't air an unfinished product that needs retroactive corrections on TV.
I don't pay much attention to sakuga but isn't this fairly common, Shaft in particular is known for it

>>23338524
Two Macross series in a row (Frontier and Delta) "needed" to be fixed by movie editions. Kind of mind boggling since each series so far tends to be spaced out about 10 years. You'd think within a fucking decade they would have a fully structured story.

>>23338403
no you dumbass it's about humans turning anything, amazing technology, even the FUCKING EVOLUTION OF HUMANITY into a weapon.

what are ya'll watching? you realize nips made this AFTER WWII, right?

>>23338382
but that was literally already done with Narrative, and even worse, Narrative had JUST come out.

/m/ never changes- they hate everything new.

Give it 5 years and people will "enjoy the kits more than the show"

5 years after that there will be people calling it a visual masterpiece.

>>23338582
>after the show ends zoomers crawl back to their main boards and the people that actually enjoy the hobby can talk in a civilized manner
Seems about right.

>>23338524
I think that complaint is more about how they made a twitter post after the brothel episode claiming Anno said how Zeon kept control of some pockets of Earth areas, which is why they could just land safely there, something that the tv show didn't make clear and had people asking how they could come and go without the Federation doing anything.

Realistically, it just feels like the staff writing the tv series had no real interest in the Federation - even though Anno's backstory had them keeping control of Earth, so he had to make up an excuse for the tv show staff ignoring his setting.

>>23336493
First time in a while that I've agreed with the Japs. Genuinely just feels like Tsurumaki wanted to do way too much with the little amount of time they had and couldn't actually decide on the direction he wanted to take this show.

>>23338187
They seem to particularly dislike how Gihren seems sad and defeated and just gave up on his lofty goals.

>>23336493
With how vocal the Japanese fans are, i hope the next show in the franchise isn't a Dishonest Gundam like GQX. Clearly studios full of Otaku aren't capable of making Mecha with Honesty.

>>23338617
Gihren getting snubbed is the only good part of this show, though i agree his downfall should have been prolonged lol

>>23336493
Most of these complaints boil down to the fact that they only had 12 episodes and they didn't use their time well.
This should've been either 2 cour or something should've been cut, and by something I mean clan battles which were completely fucking pointless I would also cut the Char episode, or at least significantly reduce the flashback, which just relays info could be easily conveyed diagetically in the main stoy.

>>23338617
lofty goals of what tho? we don't have any idea what gihren could/would have actually done if kycilia hadn't blasted him in the head.

lofty goals of using the solar system? well they didn't did that anyway. lofty goals of 'winning' the war? well again, what does "winning" a war mean? look at shit like WWII, what did it even accomplish? now everyone still hates the jews, worldwide lmao.

you can't just say "they are upset about x" without explaining. holy fuck this isn't reddit.

I think the real problem is that they presented this world where Zeon wins but Khara decided to focus on setting up a multiverse instead.

>>23338656
the recap being the movie should have stayed the movie.

but then people who didn't see the movie would be even more lost and claim it's even worse, even if it was better, because they are RETARDED FANS.

like no one really understands how many newbs there are from Gwitch and shit. this is all on amazon now. there are legit tons of fans that have no idea about how the gundam franchise is set up at this point. they just want "big robot war" like this faggot lmao>>23338309

>>23338326
>>23338332
i love how many bitches on here claiming the show is "mysterious" and doesn't explain anything with a messy plot, when we have one more episode and surely whoever is in that Rx-78 is *probably* going to have something to say lmaooooo

>>23338666
if you saw the movie, there were multiversal theme from the very beginning. like how did no one understand this?

even before the show, everyone was like "it's a parallel universe where char steals the gundam" so how does that ending up being....a parallel universe where char stole the gundam confuse people?

i don't fucking understand.

>>23336374 (OP)
>the hacks not only go Beyond The Time but Gquacks will actually go berserk and open its mouth

Yeah, after those storyboard leaks for the last episode, anyone who says this dumpsterfire of a series is anywhere near good should be pulicly executed.

>>23338684
You're a retard. A story about a parallel universe is not the same as a story about a multiverse.

>>23338681
Storyboard leaks show that the RX-78-2 is just a mindless monster like Gigantis (Ideon).

>>23338684
A parallel universe is not the same thing as multiverse slop.
Thunderbolt and The Origin are both parallel universes. They have no interaction with main UC. No big deal, nobody complained.
GQuuuuuuX now opens the door for not only characters from the main UC to enter the story and get involved, but also the other way around. GQuuuuuuX could theoretically just show up in Hathaway 2.

>>23338656
The pomeranians were such a huge nothing burger.

>>23338700
Yeah those fags basically just disappeared halfway through the show

>>23338656
>G-Witch was too long
>GQuuuuuuX is too short
What the fuck causes this mismanagement? Remember when seasonal anime were 50 episodes?

>>23338707
b-but they were important to setting up machu's character and the world or GQuuuuuux (neither of which fucking mattered LMAO)

>>23338689
parallel universes implies multiverse, that's what a multiverse is. any story about a parallel universe is a multiversal story; because get this multi means more than one lmao.

>>23338698
those are alt universe stories, not parallel universe stories. holy FUCK are ya'll really this retarded?

>thunder and origin are both parallel universes
>they have no main interaction with the main UC

correct on the first one, wrong on the second. just because we don't see what that interaction is doesn't mean it doesn't take place. it's a parallel universe, thereby a multiversal story. if you KNOW thunderbolt isn't in the same universe as the OG 0079 series/the "main" UC timeline, then you know it's a multiversal story because get this both of those universes occur.

Turn A already established that all multiversal stories COULD exist in the same universe, just on a long enough timeline. there's no reason to be ass-blasted because you are suddenly aware something is "multiversal" lmao in a franchise with like 10 universes already known looool

alt universe != parallel universe

alt universe story may or may not imply a multiversal situation, a parallel universe, one that plays off of EVENTS WE HAVE ALREADY OBSERVED is always multiversal by nature. just because you don't understand this, you don't think this is true, or just because you CAN tell stories like that (for instance, when Batman fights Dracula or Predator) that do not "interfere" with whatever you perceive to be the "main" timeline, doesn't change the fact it's always true.

lemme guess, you guys hate grant morrison and additive retroactive storytelling?

>>23338729
A lot of words to say nothing of value. I explained to you the issue people take with it. Whether you agree or not doesn’t matter.

>>23338729
what i'm saying is all the stories you are saying aren't multiversal ARE and we ACTUALLY don't know if Gquuuuux is yet or not.

it very well could be main UC. you don't actually know yet. depends on what happens in that last episode. could all be an NDE in Lalah's brain after she gets stabbed by Amuro, and it's not an "alt universe" as much as a thought experiment, a death dream from Lalah, as she sees all of time from the massive drug dump her brain gets after while dying.

you don't know because the series isn't over yet, and that's why open stories and mysteries are more fun than stories that tell you overtly exactly what is happening. ANYTHNIG is possible right now, if you have leaked the story cool, but for all we know the rx-78 could open up and ALL amuro's from ALL universes could be in there.

or it could be Tem Ray. or it could be Machu's mom. ooops.

>>23338729
Holy shit you're retarded. Let me explain it to you in capeshit terms so maybe that way it'll get through your thick skull


The original run of Ultimate Spider-Man is a storyline of a parallel universe.

Spider-Man Into The Spiderverse is a multiverse focused storyline.

These stories are not the same.

Got it? Do you need me to use crayons too next?

>>23338740
every gundam story is multiversal. we already know this because there are multiple universes in the gundam franchise. what would REALLY be wild would have been pulling mechs from other franchise's, THAT would be something we don't already know.

**but we already know all these stories exist as a multiversal gundam orrery of worlds that technically all occur before Turn A**

why everyone is sperging out over "OMG IT'S A MULTIVERSAL STORY AND THE CHARACTERS FROM "MY" GUNDAM UNIVERSE MIGHT INTERACT WITH THESE CHARACTERS!??!?!" as if Corin Nander from Wing being in Turn A didn't already show us this is not only possible, it might be common.

and again, we've known **literally from before the series started** that this universe is very likely going to "cross over" to the "other side" when fucking char disappeared in the movie and says "who are you?! are you from the other side?!" like HOLY SHIT lmao

>>23338746
so which one is Turn A?

>>23338751
>here's where their brain farts out when they realize stories don't have to be one or the either because they can be all of them

>>23338748
Didn't Tomino put scenes from Wing and G because he had no idea they weren't UC related

The concept of canon makes american brains short circuit, it's crazy.

>>23338748
Corin Nander isn’t from Wing.
Gundam has not been multiversal until GQuuuuuuX. Thunderbolt and The Origin did not interact with the main UC at all. The closest it ever officially got was the Phenex showing up in that G-Reco thing.
Take your meds, you type like a retard.

>>23338751
Turn A’s official setting is that it takes place after the Dark History, which is a massive span of time in which all other series were able to take place. Correct Century is explicitly one universe.

Just watched the first two episodes. Does the fucking music ever calm the fuck down? Will Amuro show up or is this show just gonna be more Char wank?

>>23338769
please read your comments slowly.

>Corin Nander isn't from Wing
>Gundam has not been multiversal
>Correct Century is one universe
>Gquuuuux is the only multiversal show

how is Turn A not multiversal, you can accept it's one universe, but Gquuuux isn't? they dig up gundams from every universe.

>oh but this other gundam existing from this other universe in one show is totally different than one gundam existing from this other universe in this other show because one of them is set "SUPER DUPER IN THE FUTURE" and one is set in the "main" timeline

yeah, that's okay. both shows are multiversal, just like EVERY gundam show.

>>23338859
>like EVERY gundam show
Fuck off retard

>>23338833
>Does the fucking music ever calm the fuck down
No. The Vtuber agency must have paid a lot of money to shill it
>Will Amuro show up
A single flashback, to remind you to watch a better Gundam show
>just gonna be more Char wank
It's more accurately OYWank made by people who don't even understand the reason the OYW was written the way it was, but a good portion of that is Char wank

>>23338879
The CONSTANT music that is louder than everything else is really wracking my nerves. It sucks because recent Gundams have had fantastic sound design, but having it continually drowned out by loud ass BGM and Japanese "singing" is killing my will to watch. Thunderbolt at least had the decency to be about music and its themes reflecting each character. This knock of Armored Core 3 soundtrack is not doing it for me. At the very least, the girls are cute and fuckable.

>>23338879
Show would have been better if it was just char wank honestly. It’s trying to do too many things at once so nothing really gets the development it needs. Like just stick to one thing and make it good instead of trying to get everything in there in just 12 episodes.

>>23338859
>how is Turn A not multiversal
Because it isn’t. As far as Turn A is concerned, UC, G, Wing, X, and even whatever came later, are all just points on that same timeline.
GQuuuuuuX, however, is officially bringing in other timelines, which up to now have never been a thing.

You might be confused because the western fanbase refers to those settings as AU or alternate universe shows, but this isn’t an official term.

>Flashback to the solomon raid
>Artesia shown to be the 'Gundam' of that timeline
>Show does nothing with this except to just have that as a thing
This should've just been Char/Zeon winning the OYW. Machu and Nyaan are not interesting or good characters.

>>23338886
I just want some more Amuro wank, he'll get his time to shine in a decade when Bandai does Gundam: What if Amuro joined Zeon

>>23338889
Char has never given a shit about Zeon. Show should have been Lalahs brothel adventures.

>>23338889
Sayla is lucky she got a pity mention in this show, and that's only because she's related to Char. You can't really expect respect for "characters" from this studio any more

>>23338891
It’s kind of funny how much mileage they’re getting out of this one 50 year old show. Like yeah the oyw and the original cast is interesting and all but why is this the only thing nips care about? They should do “what if” stories for the gryps conflict or fill in the gaps of late uc or something

>>23338899
>original cast is interesting
They aren't though. They have never gotten any spotlight outside of cameos. I'd love some Kai spy adventures or even some shit about Bright having to worm his way around Fed bullshit. We still know next to nothing about the huge gaps with Amuro time between shows. The Federation was so scared of him but we never see any reason for that other than "lol they just are ok"

We should get a show where the ship doctor is Kamille, he never pilots and he only gets 5 speaking lines throughout the entire thing

>>23338899
I know but he still won it for them in this timeline. Those parts I found the most entertaining but instead we have to endure Machu and Nyaan.
>Show should have been Lalahs brothel adventures
I'd watch for the maids alone

I want to visit lalah’s brothel

>>23338933
>Indian brothel
Imagine the smell

>>23338933
I want to dominate Lalah holes while the entire brothel watches.

>Listen Kycilia, we need official mandate to go to these third world brothels where they let you use the girls who aren't even prostitutes yet. One of them might have psychic powers that will win us the war, trust me.

>>23338949
the start of a time-honored tradition

>>23338888
lmao once again
>i can acknowledge that this show is set so far in the future that it's actually all one universe
>oh but this show? it's not one universe, there's no way that one universe can contain other ones

lmao

>>23338977
>i can acknowledge that this show is set so far in the future that it's actually all one universe
Correct. That is the show’s setting.
>oh but this show? it's not one universe, there's no way that one universe can contain other ones
Correct. They refer explicitly to other worlds where events played out differently for the same people in the same circumstances.

Glad we got this cleared up.

>>23337284
>UC Seed Destiny
It's much worse.

>>23338154
Turns out it might actually be just that. Char created the death machine so he could send Lalah to her resting place.

>>23338020
>Pure unfiltered kino.

Why do people get filtered by Stardust Memories. The only thing to be pissed about was Cima's death.

>>23339042
>Amazing animation
>Amazing music
>Amazing characters
>Amazing MS designs
>Top Gundam
>Big lady boobies
0083 Igloo and WITP are my favorite Gundam OVAs

>>23338423
>Yeah, they sure “won”. Getting decimated and barely avoiding the worst possible outcome is such a win.
But they did win in the end, and war was the only good solution to beating their enemies.
>Those are two of the most anti-war Gundam shows after Turn A.
Both Seed and Wing see violence as a solution to end the war. They're not really anti-war. They speak against wars waged by elites and extremists, but they still see it as a necessity to save lives and conflict.

>>23338512
>except spending THE ENTIRE SHOW TELLING HALF THE CAST NOT TO FIGHT; AND THOSE **EXACT** CHARACTERS ALL END UP DYING?!?!
Yet the only good choice was to clearly fight the Titans, since all the pacifistic characters ended up dead first.

>>23337247
WFM is an AU its allowed to do that, since the first AU show was some battle shonen nonsense.

Most of the complainers are yurishitters.

>>23339245
>m-muh yuri boogeyman
Fuck off, I wouldn't care if Shuji was a big titty bluenette that Machu was lusting after, a bad poorly written show is bad, the end.

>>23339200
That is a very utilitarian, or video game-esque, way to look at it. It doesn’t matter how many people die. The AEUG is almost completely killed off, Kamille is crippled, Quattro is in hiding, Axis is set to take over without a fight… but they beat the Titans and scored a point so they win!

>>23339282
>The AEUG is almost completely killed off, Kamille is crippled, Quattro is in hiding, Axis is set to take over without a fight
ZZ Gundam happened, and thanks to fighting, AEUG didn't collapse, Kamille got better, Axis was defeated, and Judau and pals saved the day.

All I want is OL Haman animated before the OG cast dies.

>>23338914
BaZed.
>>23336374 (OP)
Awful anime. It's like parody on mecha anime.

>>23338164
he's been getting yanked around by the Rose of Sharon for a couple of years now, he's familiar with her bullshit and what she wants
what she wants is him and he doesn't care

Do Japanese girls really just strip down to their panties unprompted when around a Twink fuckboi?

>"And it turns out that Lalah Sune was the main villain of the entire UC timeline the whole time."

>>23339364
Women will do a lot of things if you're handsome

>>23339372
Kek

>>23339382
>Handsome
>Looks like he belongs in a crossdressing doujin.
I will never understand Asian standards for men.

>>23336374 (OP)
so the successor studio to a studio known for making reference fest homages and parodies made something that... is a reference fest and feels like a parody
difference is this time its serious so like neon genesis its comically fucking embarrassing

>>23338572
>you realize nips made this AFTER WWII, right?
fuck bro I forgot there was only one gundam series ever

>>23338572
>you realize nips made this AFTER WWII, right?
No shit faggot

>>23339387
Girls love twinks and femboys.

I've just seen all 11 episodes, and boy I regret not seeing the episodes when they released, not because it's good (it's not) but I really want to know what people think of Machu and Nyaan.
All agree they're retarded, right?

>>23339489
Yes. They were better before they became retards for shuji cock

>>23339499
I'm still in disbelief a character that has like 10 lines is the moving force behind the plot. Madness.

>>23339504
>"the Gundam said I am important"

>>23339504
Grats on watching your first gundam show. This is a common occurrence in UC Gundam. It’s because they’re newtype connections.

>>23339509
No, it's not.

>>23339510
Dumb speedwatcher

>>23339516
It should be easy to prove it, if it's so obvious.
Which character with 10 or less lines moved to the same extent as Shuji (the main motivation of both main characters) the plot in
0079
Zeta
ZZ
F91 (this one should be easy, right?)
Victory

I'll wait.

>>23339449
I'm sorry you were lied to, anon.

>>23339517
>0079
Lalah
>Zeta
Show is full of them. Four, Sarah, Rosamia, etc
>ZZ
Haman
>F91
Zabine
>Victory
It’s been a while since I watched this but the one thing I remember is Shakti switching sides a million times which is basically the same kind of retardation

>>23339504
Your mistake Iain thinking Shuji is a character instead of a plot device

>>23339531
This must be a joke if you think any of these is comparable to Shuji. Perhaps Rosamia, but even then, she's not that important.

Now this: >>23339534 is a more interesting way of seeing it, although it doesn't make Gquuuux any better.

>>23339531
>Lalah
She had more than 10
>Four
More than 10
>Sarah
More than 10
>Rosamia
More than 10
>Haman
More than 10
>Zabine
Fair

>>23339581
>More than 10
So did Shuji.

>>23339583
I'm not arguing about Shuji either I'm just being pedantic to (you) lol

>>23339585
Okay retard.

>>23339509
>Grats on watching your first gundam show. This is a common occurrence in UC Gundam. It’s because they’re newtype connections.

Lalah had a lot more lines than Shuji.

>>23339602
>>23339581
>>23339541
Ok well I was just saying that because I made the same point in another thread that it was retarded that machu threw her life away for some retarded hobo with no personality and people said “it's crazy people say this when lala a character with little to no personality threw her life away to protect 2 people she barely knew. It's almost like one sided unrequited love is a theme of the show or something.” so I guess I was right in the first place

>>23339610
Lalah knew Char very well and she threw her life away to protect him, not Amuro.

>>23339592
Aw little faggot got angry

>>23339610
Char literally freed Lalah from being a sex slave. Of course she loves him. She had a magic wizard connection with Amuro that explicitly transcended normal understanding. The entire point of the NewType phenomena is empathy and understanding with no need for words and Lalala achieved that with Amufro. It's part of why Char was seething because despite it all Amuro had a deeper connection with Lahla.

>>23339624
>Char literally freed Lalah from being a sex slave.
>Char visited a brothel and sought out an underage girl there and took her away as his lover

what did Tomino mean by this?

>>23339610
>It's almost like
>You do know
>Ya'll say things like
Anytime someone uses these in an argument you are dealing with a twitter/reddit/normalfag tourist. Lalah was with Char for a while which is why she protected him from Amuro's killing blow however she connected with Amuro on a deeper Newtype level so she was torn between the two, but in the end she made her choice to save Char because he had saved her from a hellish life on Earth.

>>23339610
Also you're a retarded faggot for implying Allah's love was one sided when both char and Amuro did like her back, and that's central to the plot of CCA

>>23339583
Before episode 11? Try counting it.

Isn't it strange how defenders of this show are incapable of elaborating why it's good and fall back to basically saying "past Gundam are also bad" while grossly misrepresenting them?

>>23339647
>Allah

>>23339654
No flipping way you’re actually right

>>23339669
Its also kind of amusing seeing all of the "you don't get it, it was actually good and complex all along" arguments get BTFO one after the other now that these latest episodes have made it undeniable that Khara has no idea what they're doing

>>23339654
hard mode: Subtract every line where he's just regurgitating what Lalah or the Gundam said

>>23339673
>Allah could've been a mother to me, Amuro!
>Allah?! A mother?! What fucking Quran did tou read Char?!

>>23339673
It's a bot anon.

>>23339833
Am not

>>23339364
yeah, especially when you're hanging out on your giant robot in a private area

>>23339449
Thank God I'm not attracted to women

>>23338340
gquuuux fans in the septic tank be like
>god there's pieces of corn in this
WHAT YOU DONT WANT ANY TRACES OF THE OLD FOOD????
>ought and its disgusting its all full of bile and human waste
YOU DONT WANT ANYTHING NEW????!?!?!?! YOU PEOPLE ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO PLEASE

>>23336374 (OP)
Almost every Gundam is a pleb filter.
Almost every mecha anime, even

>>23338187
>we don't know that yet
>not knowing if the main characters are important to the plot when there is 1 (one) episode left
The absolute state of Gcucks

>>23340162
Have you seen how irrelevant Machu Nyaan and Shuji are to their own show? Of course they don’t know.

>>23340125
Kek they’re exactly like this.

>>23338423
How are SEED or Wing anti-war?

>>23338340
>>23340125
>gqux haters eat shit
Really makes you think.

He truly is the world.
Now I must like GQ

>>23336374 (OP)
Everyone in Japan who ever liked gundam is following this show while Americans are busy whining about too much nostalgia and not enough lesbian representation

>>23340649
>whining about too much nostalgia
It's hilarious how they whine about this when they never even cared about the franchise in the first place. Imperialist scum.

>>23338398
>Feds won. AEUG won. Londo Bell won. League Militaire won.
The Earth Sphere failed to recover from those wars and just kept declining.

>>23340649
>not enough lesbian representation
Only good thing one can say about this garbage

That being said, japanese otaku are notoriously retarded and I'm not surprised this is a hit among them.

>>23339529
I mean he is right. I have seen not half bad looking chicks choking each other out over an argument about K-pop stars in person.

>>23337276
It makes sense that he would have this opinion when you know his original ending for MGS4

>>23340298
SEED portrays war as something that brings literally nothing good, the death toll is catastrophic and the ones that survive can only mourn those they lost.

Wing ends up with war being stopped not by the Gundams’ overwhelming force, but a shared desire to stop all the bloodshed.

>>23340386
hes German its dey culture

>>23340771
Seed's example doesn't make it anti-war. War being gritty and harsh and cruel is how most media depicts it, but at the same time violence clearly is a necessity that has to be done to achieve peace.

can't wait to see what the new cope is tomorrow for this fucking mess

>>23341924
Yeah how will the haters cope this week?

>>23341929
By crashing its ranking on anime sites even lower

>>23341945
Oh no. Anyways.

>>23341929
>the final episode will save everything
well I guess youre going to have to pretend this is true regardless of what happens huh?

>>23341985
>coping already
Sad.

>>23342005
NTA but there are too many plot threads to wrap up, it's not possible for the ending to be fully satisfying

>>23342010
You have been saying this for months, don't pretend like you ever cared about the show.

>>23342015
Am I wrong? In about 20 minutes, they need to cover
>Machu and Nyaan's battle and its conclusion
>the truth behind Shuuji and Lalah
>Challia and Xavier's resolution
>the RX-78
>what Char's been up to all this time
>what happens to Kycilia's faction

>>23341929
>>23341957
>>23342005
>>23342015
Post 5 personality traits Shuji has.

>>23342059
Following what the gundam says... uh...

>>23342028
>>Machu and Nyaan's battle and its conclusion
Who?
>>the truth behind Shuuji and Lalah
Magic
>>Challia and Xavier's resolution
Doesn't matter, now that all the main MSG characters are back together Challia the B-tier character can be ignored
>>the RX-78
Woah so cool
>>what Char's been up to all this time
Nothing important
>>what happens to Kycilia's faction
You'll get a single scene and a line of dialogue in the epilogue

>>23342010
the set up for any potential payoffs have already been so shitty and flaccid at this point there's no salvaging it

>>23342059
>hes cute, hes dreamy, he has big manly hands, he has bbbbboysmell, and hes a rebel
t.rananime defenders

>>23336374 (OP)
When will twittercap threads finally die off?

>>23342581
When you suck my duck

>>23342581
just close yr eyes lmao

>>23342581
When the bots leave.

>>23342581
after the malformed incest baby of annos autism and kharas incompetence is miscarried into the toilet of history later today

>>23342028
>Machu and Nyaan's battle and its conclusion
Sure but this can be done in like 2 minutes
>the truth behind Shuuji and Lalah
Will be part of Shuji's infodump speech once he's beaten
>Challia and Xavier's resolution
They will stop fighting once they see a gigantic mobile suit appearing out of a magical portal
>the RX-78
"I summoned this because it kills you in every other universe, dad"
>what Char's been up to all this time
Was already explained in the last ep, he was trying to figure out a way to get rid of Lalah because she's causing space time distortions.
>what happens to Kycilia's faction
Can be done in one line in the epilogue, she can die in action, Machu and co can turn back time to render this meaningless etc etc.

>>23340771
I refuse to believe SEED has any anti-war messaging, Fukuda is literally a pro-Yasukuni shrine nutter

I'm just glad it's over
God willing, the next gundam show won't rely on nostalgia bait and REMEMBER THIIISS in place of good writing and character development.

>>23342853
This was your first gundam? You should've started with msg though.

>>23342856
Retarded post

>>23342881
Meant for >>23342853

>>23342904
Was meant for >>23342856

>>23339529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fndeDfaWCg
Look at these manly men.

See its a metaphor about a shadow being cast over us and how we can never defeat the original story. 0079 is always looming over us no matter what we do please acknowledge us Tomino senpai.

>>23336878
this opinion is kino

this show is so weird to me. it reminds me of f91 but trade f91 "wtf is happening" with REMEMBER THISSS and nostalgia bait.

Did they reveal what the gcucks true name was, they said it was just a codename at some point earlier in the show didn't they?

>>23343008
GAMURO

boy this was slop

I CLAPPED WHEN HE DID THE THIIIIIIIIING

So like what is a meaningful homage and what is just memberberry shit? Where is the line, and why do writers now rely on nostalgia so much? Is it because it is a sure fire thing 90% of the time and nobody wants to take risks anymore?

If shuji was from the other side why was he animated in the style of this side when everything else from the other side was in a different style

>>23343016
I mean this was so unapologetic about it, it'll probably grow on me lol. That last third was ass though. It had no payoff and no build up either.

>>23343009
The Gundam Amuro. I know more sadists who would put him in the GQuuuuuuX in its dormant state for G Gen Eternal now that we know about this.

It was funny to see the contrast between the japanese audience and the posts in /m/, or the west in general really (mostly the english part) throughout the series.

>>23343018
same reason they went with beyond the time instead of like, any 0079 song
these people are shit at aesthetic symbolism

>>23343023
what's everyone's feedback? mine is literally "I'll forget in a day or two" and "have a drink and you'll have a good time"

>>23342983
00 Gundam already fucking did all of this. I was kind of disappointed they really just went with doing its ending again. Amuro even became a Gundam.

>>23342059
>aloof
>artistic
>sweaty
>multi-dimensional being
>jackie chan

FUCK

Oh yeah, this is the day the episode airs.

Well, you've convinced me sunrise. A gundam with a female protagonist CANNOT be good.
After bitch from mercury I was willing to give the concept another go, whats one blunder right?
Well, 2 is a pattern.
You've officially made me sexist and I never want to see a woman protagonist in this series again because the show WILL be shit.

>>23343037
L'ecole de ciel good?
what about that code fairy one?
Despair Gundam is kinda ass but it's also really hot ass if you know what i mean wink wink :3

>>23343027
That's the worst part. There are really great ways to explicitly homage and reference earlier works that they did not. The laziest choice, Tobe Gundam, would have been more fitting. They went out of their way to make it worse.

>>23343037
What about the other redhead from Side 6?

>>23336558
So does my oshi. Coincidence?

>>23343008
Endymion I think
Or at least the gcuck had a special unit inside of it called endymion

>>23343040
Code fairy is pretty terrible.

>>23343037
and even worse, teenage girls.
I'm surprised this shit wasnt written by one too

>>23343023
The Japanese stopped treating this show seriously after last episode when it was already going memeberry overload. They acknowledged this show as a fun shitpost. Yurifags hate it.

>>23343084
Of course there's a lot of nostalgia involved, but I haven't seen anyone treat the show as a "funny shitpost" on the japanese side,

>>23343045
Retards don't count Chris as a female protagonist because she was actually competent and kind

>>23343040
>L'ecole de ciel good?
it's meh for the first two volumes, then kind of picks up. It's very shoujo
>what about that code fairy one?
it's not a good time

>>23343125
Only retards think Chris was the protagonist of 0080 just because she piloted the Gundam.

>>23336374 (OP)
I really cringed when the Gundam started growing like this was fucking Build Fighters or something. To think UC was supposed to be somewhat grounded at one point and now we keep getting magical girl shit like Unicorn, Narrative, and now this

>>23343147
She was a deuteragonist, she had a similar amount of screentime to Bernie. That's why their fight hits so hard at the end, she was actually pretty well developed like Bernie was.

>>23343157
Bro not even Build Fighters did this shit don't group them together that's unfair to BF

>>23343168
Al is the protagonist and Bernie is the deuteragonist though.

>>23343174
When the Gundam fucking grew I started laughing because I was like "They must've pulled out the 1/100 model"

>>23343168
Al is the protagonist, anon.

>>23343179
You can have multiple deuteragonists Anon, Bernie and Chris both are a foil to each other and challenge Al's perspective. Again, that's why the show works so well. It's layered, like an onion

So much homosexuality.

>>23343415
homogay

Who wrote this shitty dialogue?

>>23343894
What was that even? The robot developing feelings for its pilot?

>>23343565
Me. Captain Johnny Ridden.

>>23343989
It was Amuro.

>>23345284
what a creep