Thread 23343334

Now that is over, what did you like it or disliked it?

I hated everything and I'm glad it's over.
Bring on Seed Justice

Felt a lot videogamey with the what if multiworlds aspect. I would have prefered if it was an OC setting with the same characters. Had fun, but I won't waste my brain trying to make sense of it.

It devolved completely into jerking off to the original show in the most pathetic, brainless way possible. The new cast of characters are paper thin and underdeveloped partly because the show is written by mongoloids and partly because they have to make room for returning characters, who are paper thin and underdeveloped because they think they can get away with it since you'll cry and clap when they show up. Also I hated how Evangelion it got at the end. Gay and retarded.

>>23343334 (OP)
I'm just glad it's over. Hope it gets forgotten and never revisited.

CHAR'S BIG ZAM BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I was kind of wondering what the QuuuuuuX's final gimmick/powerset would be, because as-is it's just an odd-looking duck with an odd-looking beam saber, beam rifle, and psycommu unit. Hardly a unique loadout.
But the actual final loadout turned out to be way cooler.
>Black hole shield
>Variable-length beam axe
>EXAM System Psychoframe, equipped with Amuro's soul
Neat.

LALAH - THE CREATOR OF WORLDS

I just feel "Rhythm Emotion"
kono mune no kodou wa
anata e to tsudzuite'ru so far away

Overall, I'm a sucker and I clapped and enjoyed it like the director wanted me to
However, I also feel like the show is a serious image related. Machu's motivations suck, and make her the worst kind of spoiled brat. Seriously she's complaining about feeling stifled in what's effectively one of the best places to live in the entire Earth Sphere. It's an anime version of the first world problems hashtag. I don't even feel like she really grew through the show. She still just wants to chase excitement (shuuji). The clan battles at the beginning really didn't contribute anything. The real story of the show feels like it should have just been around Char, Bull, and Kycillia. The were the ones doing stuff that mattered until Lalah, the plot device not character came into focus. The suddenly the kids and the power of nostalgia have to solve every thing. I feel like if the show had more time, we could have gotten more out of all the characters in it and the plot , but starting the real plot with the the psychogundam attack was too late.

i like that the SRW devs will have a fun time fixing this

>>23343343
You mean SEED FREEDOM Zero

Who is this Endymion who is inside GQx? Some random guy crushing on Machu? And what does "alphacider" mean in plain English?

>>23343334 (OP)
I think the directors and writing team should be lined up and shot for daring to put out such utter tripe.

>>23343540
Endymion is the past life name of Tuxedo Mask from Sailor Moon, character voiced by Furuya. Maybe that's the reference they were going. I know, it's silly.

There is no point in having Machu and Nyaan in this story AT ALL.

>>23343563
>>23343574
So in GQuarks universe they dissected Amuro and put his soul inside an Eva unit pretending to be a gundam? KEK

>>23343334 (OP)
so are all gundam AU made by lalah?

I liked the mom story early on, trauma riddled veteran struggling to cope with the fact that her side lost the war and all. Really the only time I thought the show took advantage of the "what if zeon won" idea

Everything else was hot garbage.

I still don't get her death. How does she get her closure and become okay with dying?

>>23343595
They mention it's made with OOParts, so I guess you're suppose to assume it's built with bits of the Nu Gundam's psycoframe.

>>23343516
AND SHUUJI THE DESTROYER OF UNIVERSES
YING AND YANG
ALPHA AND OMEGA
COFFEE AND CREAM

>>23343600
Bro you need to outgrow being a gruntfag. There will NEVER be a show made for you so just accept it and move on

PEOPLE DIE WHEN THEY ARE KILLED

I appreciate the tacit admission from the writers that yes, the original gundam is better than anything we could ever possibly make, so we won't even make anything new.

>>23343563
>I know, it's silly
It's cheeky and funny.

>>23343605
they put a milf character in the show for money

EXPOSITION DUMP - THE EPISODE

>>23343334 (OP)
It felt like the most solid, memorable, entertaining Gundam Series since Gundam Wing. Its the franchise saver that Iron Blood Orphans tried to be.

>>23343598
No, only this one and the mentioned ones Shuuji destroyed. All the others are real and happened before Turn A Gundam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSyfOeUcb8

>>23343334 (OP)
Disliked it, it was funny though, I have to give it that.

>>23343334 (OP)
My GOAT Ramba Ral is alive and well. all is right in the world.

>>23343620
telling gruntfags to grow up, LOL

RX-78 and Shuuji jobbed so fucking hard holy shit. All that Episode 11 hype and all he does is barely get clipped, refuse to use the rest of his kit, get cornered some more and for some reason, despite barely dodging shit, decides that the solution is to get bigger.
Literally the perfect chance to transform into the nu and they just make it get bigger and slower and have even less of a chance to fight back.

>>23343334 (OP)
Heres hoping it produces a lot of cockpit fucking pilot porn

What the shithead writer did to Nyaan is criminal. She joins Machu in attacking Shuuji...just because. Some pretty words with no explanation and Machu's fee-fees. Enokido is a stain on the industry.

>Shuuji doesn't even Acknowledge Nyaan one single time in the finale
>Doesnt even talk to her
>Even tries to kill her
>Doesnt even say goodbye to her or even give her a glimpse
>She is literally cast aside like a kid allowed to join only by obligation

So the GQ was built with parts from the other side and one of them was Amuro's soul? Did I get that right?

>>23343646
That ain't Ramba, that's Mr. Ral

>>23343646
Almost all. I'm still miffed this guy didn't show up once

>>23343334 (OP)
Actually it was interesting to watch.
>>23343540
No. That was literally Amuro.

>>23343676
>Shuuji doesn't even Acknowledge Nyaan
he's a big boobs man, no flats

>>23343702
Gunpla kuru!

Imagine attaching the Gundam name to THIS.

Liked it for the most part, probably the biggest fumble they've ever had though

>>23343694
So is this implying that in one universe Lalah gave Char the Sazabi during the OYW and still got slapped around by Amuro and the RX-78 with it?

>>23343709
Gundam has had bullshit like that for ages.

A girl falls in love with her robot...

>>23343709
You never watched G Gundam?

And of course that fuckhead anno made the Gcuck have an eva like awakening.

>>23343716
It was explicitly a comedy AU entry.

>>23343709
You never watched Dunbine?

I liked it

>>23343718
Embarrassing.

>>23343711
When all conditions have been satisfied Char will die no matter what.
Char might got flush down the cockpit toilet and die if G-Reco has Amuro in it.

>>23343719
It had the Gundam name attached to it though. So change your complaint, don't move goalposts.

>>23343723
Why did you drop G?

>>23343682
judging by the blue glow and look of the inside of gquxs mouth it's possibly the psycho-frame from the cockpit of the Nu Gundam

>>23343730
But Nu's kirakira is green though

Poor Amuro... it was bad enough to see his soul stll wandering around in Unicorn, now he's forever trapped in Lalah's yaoi world.

>>23343725
doing Cool Shit is embarrassing now? how miserable do you want Gundam to be?

>>23343521

Same fucking thought when I saw that lol.

>>23343605
There was a lot of loose ends in the show. Her, Bask Om, Machu learning nothing

>>23343723
Your dropped list shows you're weak. Watch it all even if it's to say they're completely trash. Some might even become your favorites.

If Shuji was going to transform the RX-78 instead of making it bigger he should've made turned it into QUALITY Gundam.

Crazy how effective pattern recognition is. I knew by the name of the new show it would be terrible. When you fully lean into making things as abstract and weird as possible, the end result is almost never anything of quality and just contrived nonsense. It’s just pretentious fart sniffing.

>>23343521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfGQfQwlFlM
This never gets old...

>>23343729
Just kinda felt like other tournament shows from the same time period. I got at least 15 episodes into it before checking out. It's one of the shows I'm intrigued about picking up again, partly because of the Clan Battles in GQ. Realizing I really like that sports-competition mecha premise.

>>23343334 (OP)
Has any Gundam protag ever won this hard?
>saved the whole timeline
>got the boy
>tamed the rival
>beat the final boss
>survived without injury
>successful pacifist run

>>23343672
Because Machu offered her a home. Machu and Nyaan are Kamille and Amuro fused with Tsurumaki's meditations on modern malaise and escapism.

I wonder if Evafags that don't watch Gundam will claim this show as a masterpiece.

>>23343761
Of the shows I dropped the one I am most interested in is Seed.

>>23343784
>>got the boy
I'm not sure this one counts.

>>23343334 (OP)
I thought it was pretty good.
>>23343723
>G-reco 1
ZASED.

This show had some weird pacing issues but I enjoyed it quite a bit. The last episode was weird as fuck and they clearly didn't know if they wanted Nyaan to die or not

>>23343334 (OP)
It had potential but it was ruined by multiple factors, still glad Lalah can have her happy ending here.

>>23343772
He did.

>>23343784
>got her brain fried and now she is even more autistic than before repeating what "the MS says"

>>23343800
What even happened to her?
Thank you Mr Newtype from this world
Then she vanished?
Vanished where?
To a world where she gets stabbed by Amuro?
What happened to Shuuji?

>>23343723
I have a lot of nostalgia for gundam wing and I think it has some of the best mobile suits in the series. It might be the only gundam entry where I don’t think it has any bad designs. but I don’t know if I would rate it above all 3 of 08th ms team, war in the pocket, and stardust memory. All of them have their problems but I think the pacing and general experience of those 3 are a lot easier and enjoyable to go through than wing.

>>23343593
Retard-kun, Machu is here precisely to show that all the keikaku and repeating timeline bullshit everyone else is plotting doesn't matter compared to living in the moment and for yourself.

>>23343790
I wonder if the wound evafags gave your anus will ever heal.

So, which was better?
Gundam or Lazarus?

>>23343812
Machu is a sociopathic pleasure seeker, got it

>>23343817
Found one.

>>23343672
Go back to your Twitter account Daily Nyanchu

>>23343808
>What even happened to her?

Okay I assume the Lalah "from the other side" we saw isn't the one from the main UC we know but instead that one from where Char dies early so I guess she goes back there, probably with Char still dead.

>>23343821
Here anon, don't worry it's on the house.

>>23343809
Wing has, surpisingly, some of the more interesting moments of philosophy in Gundam, which is important to me. This is on top of great designs and animation.
Releena is gorgeous

>MAV
>Rose of Sharon
>Diablo
>Alphacide
>Endymion
Why create so many words that don't matter?

Shotacon Kycilia.

>>23343820
Imagine being so brainwashed you think pleasure itself is bad
You really have gone way too deep

>>23343829
Thanks, now get out to find a girlfriend and a job like Anno wants you too.

>>23343828
And then Amuro stabs her anyway because may as well.

>>23343836
Words are used to express ideas and emotions, zoomie.

>>23343836
>>Endymion
I burst out laughing when they I heard that shit. They really managed to sneak in one more meaningless buzzword on the last fucking episode

>>23343790
I used to be a huge Eva fan but the older I get and the more /m/ media I compare it too the more I dislike it and find it mediocre and poorly executed. I honestly think that if the Eva’s and the angel designs were not so captivating and interesting to look at, that the pacing of the show and the character would fail to prop the weight of the show up and it would have just been another forgotten weird anime. I can say it’s okay or maybe even good but the legendary status it has is really fucking stupid. It’s a really good example of something that had the potential to be a lot better but it probably only got half way there.

>>23343841
>annohaters think finding a gf and a job is a herculean task

>>23343836
Khara did the same shit with the Eva rebuilds
90s Eva is actually far more careful than most people think to avoid this kind of pointless obfuscation. It wants to be understood, it is not intentionally arcane. But the Rebuilds just throw around meaningless nonsense, and GQuX ended up doing the same.

>>23343836
It's all literally explained in the show aside from diablo, which is a reference to a really obscure newtype squadron.

>>23343842
>Amuro stabs her
>with his cock and this Lalah also gets her happy ending

>>23343845
>>23343853
The show expects the viewer to do a little more than just turning on the TV, maybe go back to isekai and romcom next season.

>char confirmed to job to Amuro in every multiverse timeline

how will Charfags cope this time? Will this finally put an end to the delusional debate that Char could somehow be as good as Amuro

>>23343864
You're the same butthurt evafag, aren't you? You're the only agressive one here.

>humiliate Dozle in a guncannon
>job to nii-san in 3 seconds
>do nothing for 6 years
>win
Your new queen, gentle/m/en of the earth sphere

>>23343711
It might not have even been Amuro that killed him. Considering that we don't see into the RX-78's cockpit, Shuji and alt-Lalah being from the same other side and Shuji piloting the RX-78 against Nyaan and Machu, we can assume that he was the one in the Gundam that killed alt-Lalah's Char, meaning that when quuux Lalah refers to Char always being killed by the Gundam she isn't just talking about it being at Amuro's hands. It could be anyone in those other timelines. Char always dies to every RX-78 pilot, no matter who they are, no matter what he is piloting. He is the worst pilot ever.

>>23343790

There is 0 point to watching this if you don't at least watch 0079, and arguably only the TV version because of Chalia.

This show is less accessible than either Unicorn or Turn A.

AU where Zeon wins OYW was a somewhat interesting concept that will now be never revisited because of this trash.

>>23343836
>MAV - co-op piloting technique, symbolic for friends
Capitalized on when Machu ask Nyaan to be her MAV. Their whole rivalry was building to it.
>Rose of Sharon - muh biblical reference, Song of Solomon, the one romance poem in the bible
Not a fan of biblical references, but iirc the poem is about a woman in love with solomon and there is specifically a point where she is self conscious about her skin being dark from being in the sun too much, unlike other girls chasing after solomon. He doesn't care, loves her anyway.
>Diablo
This isn't complicated at all, it's literally just Miguel saying he doesn't want Nyaan to do something horrible.
>Alphacide
The name (and one of the episode previews) imply the QuuuuuuX and FreD are gundams for killing "Alphas". The GQuuuuuuX seems to Yeet Shuji out of the universe. He seems to be some kind of "Alpha Newtype", powerful enough to manipulate realities from beyond the time.
It's quite simple, keep up!
>Endymion
Nevermind I actually don't know

Ranking it as a newfag, who just picked the series in May
0079 > Origin > GquX > Unicorn > ZZ > Z > Narrative > CCA

>>23343886
This is my biggest issue. Shows like this, Kyuranger and LuvsPat have very interesting concepts but completely shit the bed. That would be fine in a vacuum, but these ideas will never get another chance to be revisted so the one shot we got was completely squandered.

>>23343386
Even adding more episodes wouldn't have helped... Mixing the UC fanfic you wrote as a teen with some lazy draft about a girl's first love in space just doesn't go well.

>>23343618
>COFFEE AND CREAM
VVV was so much better than this.

>>23343523
>The suddenly the kids and the power of nostalgia have to solve every thing.
Because, because, because! Char and Challia are engaged in a bullshit battle for no reason, so they can't intervene... Please understand.

yuritroons on suicide watch

>>23343879
This
It is actually significantly easier to jump into Zeta without first watching 0079 than this
Which is outrageous considering they know damn well zoomers won't watch an anime older than their parents are in many cases.
As an evafag my post-mortem is that this show had vibes and style despite the awful ms designs but the substance is fleeting, there are times where you think a decent theme is building (largely around achieving your goals but still feeling unfulfilled, this happens really often for a 12 episode thing) but it can't come together in such a short runtime and feel anything but extremely rushed
Machu is the best part of this show and I appreciate that she got to take some limelight from the old UC characters, that was necessary.

>>23343889
Never seen anyone put CCA last before

>>23343906
It's bait.

>>23343888
>Endymion
>Nevermind I actually don't know
Endymion was the name of a human king in Greek mythology, that was in love with the Titan goddess of the moon - Selene.
This piece of mythology was used by Sailor Moon, where Tuxedo Kamen / Mamoru's original name from before being reborn as human, was Endymion - the king of Earth.

Now; look up his voice actor ...

>>23343888
The problem is not that the terms are literally impossible to understand
It's that there is no need for them to exist in the first place
Which is exactly what Eva rebuilds did. Jargon where it is technically possible to explain almost all of it, but why should we bother when it doesn't matter and wasn't necessary?

>>23343915
>I hate fun and have autism
ok

>>23343915
>It's that there is no need for them to exist in the first place
Are zoomers really so peabrained that they get upset when a word they didn't know is introduced?

>>23343334 (OP)
I enjoyed it but it needed more episodes to flesh out the setting. I think if it had 20 something episodes it would have been one of my favorites but as it is it's a fairly standard gundam show.

>>23343909
Everybody always calls Kira the Amuro-expy.
He is not.
Mwu is.

From being (a clone of) the first Newtype, to the fact that he self-sacrificed himself by eating a giant beam cannon vis-a-vis Amuro sacrificing himself in preventing the Axis drop. Him being the 'Hawk of Endymion' is basically the same reference, though the show gives it some actual in-universe context via the battle at Endymion crater.

>>23343407
>3 times as fast but big
zam!

>>23343915
There's no need for anything to exist, but it can still be fun

>>23343676
>let's bully the homeless refugee some more!
Fuck Machu. She deserves nothing.

>>23343779
The Utena film was 10/10 though.

>>23343789
Machu can't even go back to her colony or else she'll get arrested.

>>23343915
NTA but I genuinely think Anno is a Kojima like character. He needs tard wranglers to not only provide him with good ideas to improve the product- but people to tell him no sometimes. Because doing something weird and unexpected just because you can is not always going to have a net positive effect in the final product quality. I expected the rebuilds to be a more focused polished refined and better paced version of the TV series and it was basically just retarded schizo shit lampshaded under being an alt timeline. Like it’s fucking Spider-Man or Batman or something.

>>23343930
She's living with Machu on the beachside like Doan sort of. We see their home in the ED.

>>23343838
So they pulled Kycillia's personality in this from the novel depiction. Origin did that too.

>>23343934
That's just auteurs in a nutshell. They all need wranglers.

>>23343934
>le kojima
>le tard wrangler
>le schizo
>le Spider-Man and Batman

>>23343935
I figured it was a reference to Sayla in Z/ZZ

>>23343942
>le

>>23343621
thought the same thing heh

>>23343948
>>

>>23343934
GQuuux is Tsurumaki and Enokido.

>anno this
>anno that
are these retards unable to look up credits?

This is why fanfic tier stories should stay in writing or games. Relies completely on its references to previous entries characters, scenes, and sometimes ost. They are too creatively bankrupt to make something new and interesting. Gundam has been mid or shit since 00.

>>23343918
>>23343920
The old shows make a point of never pinning down a proper definition for whar a "Newtype" is, because it's important for the viewer to make their own interpretation and sit down to think about it, and think about the show they are watching. It's a word that carries mystique and romanticism because you revisit the question of what EXACTLY they are and are not frequently.
The effect is lost when you try to attach that kind of aura to ten different terms in a show a quarter the length of a single old series. Why bother to figure out the meaning behind calling the Elmeth "The Rose of Sharon" when you're immediately hit with more jargon like Yomagntho, Alphacide (and, indeed, Alphas), MAV (just say wingman???), Diablo, Endymion...
It's funny that you're trying to portray me as impatient or thoughtless when it's the show itself trying to rattle off more terms so that you don't realise how shallow the previous one was as an attempt to inject narrative depth into the script.

>>23343947
It could be both honestly. Doan was first in my mind because of the whole idea of leaving the world behind thing.

>>23343959
>noo don't make a show, it hurts my autism!!!

>>23343971
Yes literally dont make it a show. Keep fanfics in writing or games. Glad you can read.

>>23343334 (OP)
Don't get me wrong I was expecting char to come back after his disappearance in the zeknova from the start and I was even expecting an amuro cameo but I didn't think the char lalah amuro shit would completely hijack the show to the extent they did by the end. There was a point where the epic references kinda just completely subsumed the suggestion of a plot, and I wanna say that was around the point the psycho gundam MKII appeared for no real reason to do nothing much at all and then shed its armour to remind you of an EVA.
Machu and Nyan felt like characters created entirely from first draft bullet points. The writers knew the major beats they wanted the characters to hit, but put literally no effort into leading them to and from each development.
The friendship didn't feel earned and wasn't really shown, so the "betrayal" didn't feel earned, so the confrontation didn't feel earned, so them forgiving eachother and becoming perfect mavs to beat the final boss didn't feel earned. Each stage in the process needed like, 2 more scenes at minimum. Show should have been double the length, and ideally I would have liked the final conflict to not just collapse into lalah's grief and multiverses. I found the grounded problems of the actual setting they'd created more compelling.

>>23343974
too bad anon, they made a show and people loved it, you know what that means right?

I said it before about Witch from Mercury, and I'll say it again here; This show was a victim of the average Japanese viewer's dwindling attention span that led to anime only getting one or two cours at a time. WfM could have used at least 12 or 13 more episodes, and the same could be said of GQuuuuuuX.

>>23343978
>didn't guess that's what the show was by Episode 2
Oldtype desu

>>23343978
You gotta rewatch anon.

>>23343980
Not him
They are not making a second season of this
It's over
I say this as someone who basically liked it and thinks (like anyone with a brain) that this show would have benefitted immensely from being double the length

>>23343906
It was a disappointing ending to the whole arc.
>new characters are stupid
>old characters are bland and/or dead
>the story is so simple you could replace Amuro and Char with anyone and it'd still work
>"let's waste some screen time of this short movie to piss off Astonaige (who?), lol"
Feels like a quick cashgrab.

>>23343605
Deux was even more of wtf in retrospect. She only makes sense as a boomer otaku shitpost towards gacha characters and Zeta.

>>23343334 (OP)
Anons acting like its the worst thing are being super fucking dramatic. It has its flaws and probably needed to be restructured or expanded upon (Id cut out the clan battle stuff entirely) but its core concepts are interesting, the designs are fresh, and the action sequences were well put together. The new characters didn't do much for me but enjoyed their takes on the OG characters in an alternate setting. Overall flawed, but good.

>>23343961
>why yes I am autistic how could you tell?

>>23343971
Not him but I agree with some of his thoughts. Part of the issue I think is that not many people wanted a weird spinoff story alt universe. But even then— it’s a question of execution. if you were doing a UC alt universe spin-off, maybe it could have been done in a better or more novel way? Play it straight but do something like swap the alliances of most of the characters to the other faction. make zeon GMs or make Fed zakus. Actually make an attempt at making the new designs cool looking and not bizarre and fucked up looking just for the sake of making weird ass shit because that’s “different”. What would a Gouf look like if it was a federation unit? there is a way to be creative but still make stuff that people actually like and want that has mass appeal and isn’t just ugly shit that 5% of the fans would buy a lot of. What would the Dom look like if it was made by the federation piloted by the black tie stars but in this version they’re all friendly nice dudes. maybe in this version the spacenoids are oppressing the people on earth instead of vice versa. Lots of potential concepts.

>>23343605
She realized Shuji's wish was to protect Lalah.

>>23343980
It’s crazy how you see this argument everywhere for everything— there is always a large amount of people who will inevitably like whatever the new thing is. It takes time for people to really gauge what the true reception of the show is.

Gundam is fucking dead.

>>23344001
the clan battles i would liken to filler much like the summer vacation arc of full metal panic
though the summer vacation arc's job was to get you attached to the characters before heavy shit happened
whether or not the clan battles achieved a similar result should be the assessment of whether or not they served their purpose
but the nature of the "clan battle arc" should be a huge reason in any argument of why the show needed more time

>>23343980
Most braindead take possible.

>>23344001
It's a lovable hot mess and the most fun I've had watching an anime in years.

The worst part was not having more episodes to flesh things out. Overall, i really enjoyed it. It's an homage to 45+ years of series, Gundam and others. All wrapped up with a decent little story, cool designs, and a ton of fanservice.
Got very End of Evangelion at the end but I'm surprised how happy the end felt.

>>23343999
Initially I thought Deux served a purpose to contrast Machu, but that fell through as the anime went on. It seems more like her only purpose was to provide some explosions in episode 07, as she had zero impact on anything. It's so lame, because she's such an interesting looking and acting character. But then, this is the show that completely off-screened SAYLA AND RAMBA RAL TEAMING UP AND POLITICKING TO OVERTHROW THE ZABIS.

What the fuck, Tsurumaki? This soured me so much that I retroactively hate FLCL now.

>>23344019
The clan bat arc was unironically more tense, sad, and edgy than the second half of the series.

>>23343909
>Selene
That sounds like it could be GFreD's true name because its bits are called Luna and Artemis, both of which are also related to the moon.

>>23343980
Another anon here, while I can't say I like it the show (5/10) I would be glad if it succeed so they can keep diving on the concept of AU UC stories, hope they don't fuck it up next time.

>>23343516
>People arguing if Turn A, Unicorn, 00Q (ELS), Devil etc are the most strongestest
>Elmeth with an upset brown girl in it can fart out whole universes non stop.
lol

>>23344029
>off-screened SAYLA AND RAMBA RAL TEAMING UP AND POLITICKING TO OVERTHROW THE ZABIS.
Well, that wasn't the story they wanted to tell and is not what the show is about. Instead it was about... uhm. Well, what was it about? Don't create new universes because you don't like yours? Or, don't kill a multiverse-creating girl to reset everything and instead let her go on and jump into a new one?

>>23344055
>ugh what is the message in this entertainment piece? ugh I don't get it is this political? is this about gender equality? ugh I don't get it

Char is a mediocre pilot at best

>>23344057
Anti-intellectualism doesn't make you cool

>>23344067
Complaining about everything doesn't make you an intellectual.

>>23344055
Don't deprive girls of their kira kira.

>>23344073
>you complained about this shit show I like so clearly you must do nothing but complain
Yawn

Lalah went through the trouble of creating whole-ass multiverse bullshit to save Chat when all she had to do was take the Gundam's beam saber for him like she was supposed to. What a stupid cunt.

>>23344073
being unwilling to discuss anything makes you need to go away and stay gone

>>23344035
That definitely completes the reference as Luna and Artemis were the actual names of the cat familiars to Moon and Venus in Sailor Moon as well ...

>>23344029
for someone who just pulled a coup and reclaimed her homeland she looks like the most depressed person on earth

>>23344083
chat is anon fr right now

>>23344073
A piece of art exists to express ideas and that gives it meaning. Without that it's just slop.

>>23344089
She's obviously just a puppet to legitimize a military junta through her name and Earth agreed to send her there for gibs.

>>23344093
>inb4 refusing to discuss something and just enjoying it for what it is ISNT slop consuming
half the reason i hate your average street gendumb fan is they just like gendumb
they couldnt recognize a "the O" or a musical motif but theyll tell you how much they like
>muh gundam
its like nintendo drones

>>23344055
>Well, what was it about?
Same as it was for Evangelion:
stop wallowing in your delusions and attachment to the past, and move the fuck on already.

>>23344093
Yeah? That much is obvious, I didn't imply this piece has no meaning.

I would have probably thought it was okay if the fucking overbearing soundtrack wasn't trying to sell this like some emotional journey coming to an end when it feels like Machu never knew the real Shuji and Machu and Nyaan didn't even get a chance to approach each-other without animosity until the tail end here.

I'm glad that she lived. I was worried they were going to pull a "I have to die to atone for what I did." thing. Sadly, she lost the GFreD. I really liked that suit. Seeing her and Machu both with their Gundams in peace would have been cool.
Kycilia died exactly how I wanted her to.
It was so short, and I really want something like a novel to expand on stuff, there's potential to build on it. As a whole, I had a lot of fun watching and discussing. And while the ending was perhaps overly sappy, it was nice to see.
Favorite suits: GQuuuuuuX, GFreD, new Gyan
Favorite character: Challia Bull

>>23344083
>all she had to do was take the Gundam's beam saber for him like she was supposed to

And he still dies in CCA unless they decide to change it so it doesn't matter.

>>23343784
>>successful pacifist run
Kinda easy when you sortie like 4 times.

Oh an update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aFgfKtg3V4

>>23344113
GFreD was a literal tool of mass destruction, it being destroyed makes sense.

>>23343879
>This show is less accessible than either Unicorn or Turn A.
This is actually true. Unicorn comes with it's own cliff's notes summary of shit, and Turn A is largely independent of it's references.
This show is literally a continuation of Char, Lalah and Amuro's drama.

Damn this show was a fucking let down. I saw the movie in theaters and was actually excited. Turned out to just be 0079,Zeta and CCA references mixed in with a wannabe FLCL.

>>23344108
>attachment to the past, and move the fuck on already.
Might be more convincing if THEY weren't the ones who can't let go of their UC toys and showed intense inability to move on
I'm perfectly content with them moving on and would have rather had something new than this show

>>23344108
>move the fuck on already
said the show that jam packed every scene with homage after homage
people still argue that Evangelion was
>a deconstruction
when Anno has stated it was a love letter to ultraman
and somehow people still deny it in light of the
>Shin godzilla/kamen/ultra
series of shows
you people are just wrong

>>23344093
Your soul is weighed down by gravity!

>>23344055
>Well, what was it about?
The futility of trying to undo what has been done; and the need to move on from past regrets and mistakes, rather than sink in them and drown.

It was alright I guess. I was on board for the first half but by the last few episodes with alternate timeline crossing being pulled out at the last minute it was losing me. The conclusion came across even more rushed than The Witch from Mercury to me, I didn't get the impression that any of the things that were supposed to be revelations of hype moments were earned. The mecha designs grew on me though, and the shot-for-shot remakes of things from 0079 was neat. I like happy endings once in a while and I'm glad Nyaan and Machu are (just) friends and roomates.

>>23344141
>im gonna resort to non arguments in my insistence on mindlessly consuming material
your brain is weighed down by stupidity

>>23344108
>stop wallowing in your delusions and attachment to the past, and move the fuck on already.
Is that what happened? I thought Lalah went on to create another universe. Or did she die? Went back and died? Or disappeared into the Kira Kira forever?

>>23344142
thats a based theme
considering i think G origin and thunderbolt are fucking terrible

>>23344108
Nigga no one had a problem moving past Challia Bull, this show's writers are bigger nostalgia fags than the actual fans.

>>23343334 (OP)
I didn't like it at all.

Shuji's motive made sense, but the show didn't give us a reason for why he would go to such lengths for Lalah. Should've had at least one episode that showed Shuji meeting and falling in love with Lalah, it would have made him feel more like a character than a plot device.

>>23343334 (OP)
It felt like Macross frontier, but less music and giant tits, but with more evangelion references instead, giant white rx-78 was straight up Rei Ayanami.

>>23343924
>From being (a clone of) the first Newtype

Mwu wasn't a clone he was the legit son of Al de Flaga, and Al wasnt a newtype he was just extremely naturally talented.

>>23343407
where is the char toyota YARIS?

>>23344149
I think she just went back to her universe to watch it play out. Shuji was essentially trying to keep her in a loop where she was dreaming and not having to face her reality forever.
But I don't see how that really helps at all if each universe just made her experience Char die a different way... as far as i can tell Shuji was literally making it worse, and killing her over and over to boot.

>>23343334 (OP)
Fun show, solid 7-8/10
much better than gwitch

okay we've removed the REMEMBER ZETA and SEX MILF MOM episode
what do you put instead

>>23344155
They did a fine job explaining his motive and method, but they did not really explain HIM as an individual. Or why he acted like a care free drifter who was just doing what the Gundam told him to do, when he was apparently in complete control the whole time.

>>23344146
I am a very stable genius and I liked GQ!

>>23344164
Ah yes, I forgot that she wasn't from the original 0079 universe but from yet another parallel reality.

>>23343523
>but starting the real plot with the the psychogundam attack was too late.
I liked the show however this is true, people say "more episodes wouldnt have helped" but I think if they stretched it out clan bat could have been a bit more relevant, the titans/feddies messing with shit could have been a cool arc rather than just 2 episodes, then the conclusion would be the same just feeling a bit less rushed

>>23344124
But it was a very cool tool of mass destruction!

>>23344178
Yeah she's form the one where Amuro speedran the original show, apparently.

>>23343676
>>23343930
nyaankeks btfo
fuck that space mexican she sucks

>>23344181
This

Also Machu ended the fight with a Clan Battle finishing move, sending a beam heat hawk through the Mega Size RX-78-2's throat and taking off its head.

>>23344142
That wasn't exactly the theme of the show. Just the result of the final episode. In Evangelion, the theme permeates every episode and is relevant for most characters.

>>23344167
Hour long double episode revolving around Puru.

>>23343407
Can I get a pic of all the alternate
Char MS?

>>23344108
But if the universes Lalah was creating were actually genuine universes (which seems to be the case, with this one persisting), she wasn't actually doing anything bad. She was creating life. It was just Shuji killing her over and over than did the bad thing.

Should've had all the characters naked during the Newtype connection moments.

>>23344198
does any one want to do the maths to determine for sure if yuge gundumb is (1/48)/(1/144)=3 times bigger than Gcuck

>>23344055
its telling you to stop being nostalgia fag and let go. Its basically them trying to bring gundam outs of UC comfort zone into the future, true newtypes dont tie down their own hearts or something i dont actually know this is my headcanon
>>23344061
>deliberately not showing amuro
>>23344160
Amuro is def a civic guy

>>23343334 (OP)
I had a fun time with it. Machu is a funny lead if only for how stubborn and belligerent she is. Her himbo lust ending up fucking up the plans of like 3 different factions.
As had been said a thousand times already it really could have used more episodes. Imo 24 with the first cour ending on Psycho Gundam then going into the seocnd half would have given everything more room to breath. I'll come back for a season 2 or movie though. The ending is so sequel hooky.

>>23344154
Nostalgia and moving on don't really contradict.

>>23343334 (OP)
My overall impressions are that GQX was one of the following:

1. Anno has completely lost it and shit the bed, ala Alan Moore and Miyazaki, and Tsurumaki can't make anything other than something Evangelion-adjacent at best.
2. Anno just trolled the fuck out of everyone because he thinks fans need to grow up.
3. Some corpo suits at Bandai or Sunrise had the brilliant idea to see if they could just mash Evangelion and Gundam together for marketing purposes.

>>23344224
Shuji literally crushed the GfreD in the giant Gundam's hand. That would imply it's the size of the 1/12 scale Gundam Bandai made some years ago (or just a regular person) and the mobile suits are 1/144.

>>23344227
>its telling you to stop being nostalgia fag
But I was already not a nostalgia fag, I wanted more Machu and Clan battles. Instead, the show dragged me back to UC with the dimension hopping Elmeth that creates Char and the RX-78.

>>23344181
>it was a very cool tool of mass destruction
aren't they all?

>GQuuux opens mouth like EVA01
>BIG Gundam crushes GFred in its hand like Shinji did Kaworu
>Final scene on a beach

>>23344154
They ARE the actual fans.

>>23344108
>"stop wallowing in your delusions and attachment to the past, and move the fuck on already" says man who spent the past 20 years producing nothing but evangelion rebuilds and reboots of shows he liked when he was a kid

>>23343840
throwing your life away to bang a homeless dude is a bit more extreme than you let on

>>23344283
How many times do we have to tell you nostalgia fagging is not being a fan, Gundam is more than just 0079/CCA, and when you have actual fans of the same thing your a fan of calling and then proving the shit you made is shallow and contrary to the point of the franchise, then you are most likely not as big a fan you think you are.

Was Ramba Ral the man next to Artesia?

>>23343334 (OP)
So who's at fault for GQuuuuuux being this bad?
Hideaki Anno?
Bandai?
Kazuya Tsurumaki?
Youji Enokido?
All of the above?

It might unironically be worse than IBO somehow

It was popular so clearly it reached an audience, I just don't know who that audience was. The romance was a tumour, but I'd at least have understood it if it ended cleanly in some kind of feminist message about how these girls don't need men making all their decisions in life and that Gundam pilots robbing them of their agency is equivalent to patrons taking advantage of hookers, but they didn't even manage to follow through on that. Too nostalgic for newfags, too irrelevant for nostalgists. Seriously who the fuck is propping this show up so hard because I know it has to be doing well.

>>23344130
this

Machu and Nyaan back on Earth in peace...time to hit up the whorehouse!

>>23343407
I want to think in that world Char's mobile suits were famed for being three times bigger.

>>23344241
If anything his shitting on Zeta means Anno(and his buddies at Khara) can't let their old grudges go.

>>23343838
>literally "I could have been a mother to him"

>>23344365
Prior to this I was only familiar with Enokido's Star Driver which I quite enjoyed so it surprised me how bad this was
How are Ryuu no Haisha, Captain Earth and Shoujo Kakumei Utena by him?

>>23344384
>omg I wonder what else is big with commander char..
>his mommy issues

>>23344365
No editor
No 'no'-men
A bunch of ideas that were allowed to reach the canvas and none were shelved

>>23344419
>Shoujo Kakumei Utena
Fucking poser kill yourself.

>>23344421
>Char, we're all worried about you, you've really let yourself go after those mcdonalds commercials
>I AM BIG CHAR THE RED MARSHMALLOW

>>23344419
I forgot how much I disliked captain earth until right now.

>>23344428
Did I type it wrong? What prompts this reaction?, like I said I haven't watched it yet, I've only seen Star Driver and its movie

Last episode was pretty enjoyable, no point in complaining about the memberberries since you knew they were gonna be there from episode 1. Only thing I was kinda disappointed in was Char having no part in the climax due to his mentee deciding lol I kill you

>>23344373
it's gundam, and it has a cute quirky girl protagonist, so those two attributes combined mean it'll sell no matter what. next show will be more of the same. it's just going to be cute girls selling gunpla with no meaningful substance from now until forever.

>>23343830
>Wing has, surpisingly, some of the more interesting moments of philosophy in Gundam
You might be retarded anon

>>23343930
>The Utena film was 10/10
I agree but no one other than a few hundred fans of Utena do. It's too bizarre and literally 2deepn@bstrAkt for both outsiders and insiders of the the Utena fandom
>>23344419
I've only seen the latter but Captain Earth I've heard is similar in structure.
If you like eclectic japanese progwave, rococo aestheticism and visual metaphors presented in a quirky/funny way, you'll like Utena

>>23343715
Xenoglossia?

>>23344343
Yeah.

>>23344472
>TTG
That shit is what murdered cartoon network.

>>23344365
You could remove ClanBat entirely and make the ClanBat secondary characters into flat smugglers and compress it into a single 2 hour movie.

So the point of this scene was Kycillia wanted to rape Char and have blonde babies, right?

>>23343790
They've been doing this, on this very board, since episode 1.

>>23344365
It should just have been a movie.

>>23344485
She wanted Char to drink her breast milk

>>23344482
No kidding. I'd just Restructure the early episodes into an Earth arc after the first clan battle. The pomeranians could also stick around since they tried to connect them (well, their leader) to the GQX and then did nothing with that.

Gcucks as a design sucks a duck
In the end it still looks like a fake robot from a graphics card box

>>23344419
Captain Earth is a waste of good designs, do not watch it for it is miserably boring and I hate myself for being too autistic to drop a show.

>>23344495
You're saying she could've been like a mother to Char?

>>23344217
>It was just Shuji killing her over and over than did the bad thing.
It 'was Shuji' in the sense that that is how yet another reality she tried to create with both her and Char surviving, ended up with a hard no-sell of either Char dying, her dying, or both dying. Shuji basically being the arbiter of the universe (or is that multiverse?) telling her in a roundabout way that she simply can't and shouldn't expect, to have her cake and eat it as well. Accept the hand you've been dealt. Accept the future you (originally; before all the reality-hax) created and live out the path you created.

Tell me guys. WHO WAS PHONE?!

>>23344509
oh shit

>>23344509
>before
Literally CCA Amuro via the psycoframe parts from the Nu that were installed on the Gcuxks.

>>23344504 (cont.)
Or on a deeper level: some times things might be negotiable, but some things are irrepairable.
Or going more shallow and into the framing of a parent addressing a child: 'no' means 'no.'

>>23343334 (OP)
>Shuji and Machu hook up when Shuji has no personality and him and Machu had ZERO romantic tension throughout the entire series before Machu either kills him or banishes him to his own universe
What a load of shit.

What was the deal with the zock?

Do Anno and Tsurumaki have an obsession about wanting to redo stuff and they use anime as an outlet to process these feelings?

>>23344520
Pomeranians good ending. Instead of fighting, they go mining.

>>23344522
You mean people will pay me to realize my fantasies?

>>23344472
>kimcartoon

>>23344520
Clap. When. You. See. The. Reference.

How hard is this???????

>>23344365
As with almost everything wrong with modern anime, not enough time to work on shit. WfMS2 and Gquuuuuux cannibalized each other despite being worked on by different studios and ensure tha neither was able to become a good show

>>23344520
He funny.

>>23344522
Tsurumaki does everything for Anno
FLCL was the closest he ever got to doing something original, but even then the motifs in every episode were callbacks to older GAINAX stuff anno worked on

>>23344526
But why does it have this guys head?

>>23344365
On a broad sense? All of nu-Gainax. Both Khara and Trigger have been really hit-or-miss since they exist. They are style over substance most of the time, and I say this as a fan of them.
However I would say this is actually Tsurumaki's fault. I don't think there's even one series he's directed that isn't a chaotic and rushed clusterfuck. The only think he's done I like is FLCL because the chaos only works to its favor.

>>23344527
It's not about redoing old shows. The shows are ABOUT characters that want to redo their lifes or timelines and the creators tell the audience that this is not a good thing. What's the deal here? Itvseems thecones who can't movecon are the creators.

>>23344450
No.

>>23344520
Egg

>>23343334 (OP)
Genuinely could've been amazing if it had 12 more episodes, as it stands it's alright, but it tries to do way way way too much with its limited time and characters suffers, Nyaan is genuinely pointless after the first episode and Shuji gets zero actual character so it really just comes off as Machu does all of this because she finds his armpits hot.
But like I said there are some really good things here that could've made this show really great if it only had more episodes.

Challia is the GOAT though and I won't hear any bad words thrown his way.

>>23344130
You saw the movie and DIDN'T expect this show to become exactly that? I think you might be a retard anon

>>23344522
Not even anime, just look at Anno's live-action movies. He's gone on record recently saying making an an actual introspective/deep work like his old series is too psychologically painful, so he'll just do things he likes (rehash things he's nostalgic for) for money.

>>23344500
>First Clanbat episode is shorter, ends with the whole cast highttailing it out of Side 6 with the Sodom in pursuit (ship is si.ilar to Garancieres).
>Cast have landed on Earth and look for supplies. Pomeranians are in hot shit after leaving Side 6 and some hope they can leverage the Rose for cash, though Anqi seems to know more than she let's on. Fight with MAMA still happens, she meets Machu in a town with Shuuji, and picks up he's the Red Gundams pilot. She steals the Hizack prototype and a Gelgoog used for testing. Fight happens in a similar way. It's revealed that the resonance in Kira-Kira is helping Shuuji find the rose
>Black Binaries are sent from the Sodom in pursuit. They've been disgraced since the OYW ended after a military tribunal held them responsable for Dozel's death. Getting the Gundams with minimal damage will earn them a pardon and their freedom. Meanwhile, Federation authorities are in pursuit of anyone with a spacenoid accent and rounding them up for interrogation, this leads to a similar sequence to the original episode.

What did the Beginning refer to, if this was from "Amuro"?

>>23344235
There isn't a difference in this case though, where we are literally just reliving Lalah, Char and Amuro's trauma, again.

>>23344522
lots of creators work through things via the media they consumed as children, George Lucas famously created a post vietnam movie dealing with fascism based on the old scifi serials and japanese samurai movies he watched.
Anno and Tsurumaki just has the privilege of doing this with the actual IPs they grew up with.

I almost turned off the episode when the ship crew started talking about "omg, so this is a battle between newtypes??" as if I was watching a battle shounen anime, then the attempted commentary on human fallibility in the insertion of the standard bit about despite being newtypes they're fighting.

It's simultaneously constrained by general and gundam tropes while having no writer capable of utilizing these familiar elements in a novel or compelling way. It also somehow thinks passing knowledge of UC Gundam was enough to make up for the lack of thematic building on its own front. The large amount of exposition in service of spouting banalities was somehow unexpected by me. I think GQuuux is bad but I don't dislike it. I'm left with a feeling as hollow as the narrative and characters now that's over.

>>23344227
>its telling you to stop being nostalgia fag and let go. Its basically them trying to bring gundam outs of UC comfort zone into the future
Don't forget to buy your seasonal HG, RG, MG, and F(a)G RX-78-2 toys and this season's special EVA Unit 78 as featured in Mobile Suit Gundam GQuuuuuuX

>>23343772
>the trasnformation was just an excuse to reference this

extreme otaku anime don't get made this often

>>23344550
The problem with your statement is that the rose of Charon Lalah gets exactly what she wanted. A Char that doesn't die. So if that was the intent it feels pretty hollow.

>>23344569
Gunpla Builders Beginning G

>>23344419
Captain Earth is what happens when you take the flamboyance out of Star Driver. I don't hate it but I get why people does. It's a less entertaining product. Once you have seen Star Driver you have seen Captain Earth.

>>23344365
Ultimately Bandai because they only ok'd 12 episodes, everyone else were basically Tomino with F91, had to cram a longer script into a shorter run time.
>>23344482
that would make it even more random feeling, gquuux needed more episodes not less.

>>23344569
https://youtu.be/L_hdlyfLtiQ?si=gI_nj7DFPCn2alhU
Just another reference desu

>>23344614
It really depends. Less episodes might have made it more focused like FLCL. Granted FLCL was a simpler story especially in lore.

>>23344053
are there more less obvious amuro references in this show?

>>23344603
It's funny because unlike the rest of that chart, Gquuuuuux really is in it's entirety about the Robots, it doesn't have anything else to do or say on the human side, and it's politics are at best borrowed from a better series
It really is, the first Gundam that's about the Robots

>>23344619
they would have to ultimately change the story of gquuuux so much its basically not the same story if they were to compress it even more which is really not a solution, it needed time to breath

>>23344565
Cast make their way through south America. Kycilia has arrived for a meeting at Jaburo. Essentially a show for the masses, she's actually there for a meeting with Challia, and his lack of progress despite knowing he should have gotten the GQX back with his talents. An assassination attempt is done by GM Light Cannons, and is foiled by Exavier in the Gyan. The cast has passed Sout America, now making their way to Japan. It seems like something is interfering with his senses and he feels like he'll find it there. Meanwhile, cracks form between the bonds Machu and Nyann have established after Nyann tells Machu she's fallen for Shuuji, inspired by his sense of freedom and unwavering conviction.
>Nightmares made manifest: The main cast have snuck into the Murasame labs, Shuuji guiding them to the source of his issues. Meanwhile, Challia is also on site, and calls out the director of the Institute for his inhuman experiments, strongly suggesting he'll blow it up if they don't cease their experiments. Episode ends when they find first Murasame, Lalah Sune.
>Next episode is after they break out with her. Seems like they ran an experiment using Lalah to stabilize their other Cyber Newtypes. Nyann shows up with both Gundams and the cast fight off the bases MS. During the chaos, the lack of Lalah forces them to deploy the Psyco Gundam with their most successful experiment, Zero Murasame. Despite having a bomb strapped to his cockpit, he manages disable it and starts destroying everything. Nyann is separated from the group, and is found by Xavier, while Challia eventually deploys in the Kikeroga (Earth combat specs) and destroys the Psyco.
>Final stop for the rose in India. Lalah sequence repeats itself and she leaves. Sodom catches up to them as they find the rose, and Shuuji places out to avoid being captured.

I rolled my eyes so hard when Char killed kycillia. They couldn't help themselves

>>23344603
Whoever put Turn A there probably saw one influencer talking about it, that series is still as niche as it was from the days it aired, nowhere close to the popular hits above.

>>23344657
I smiled

>>23344657
Adding that sequence just so he could get a bazooka was hilarious.

>>23344509
Amuro. The GQuuuuuuX was communicating with Machu.

>>23343334 (OP)
I didn't liked it and I should have drop it the moment they introduced the psycho gundam.

>Alt-Lalah just accepts Char is dead and stop all this nonsense
>Shuji is just some newtype with reality warping powers that became obsessed with Lalah once she started warping reality
>Amuro appreatnly is from CCA butil into the Gquuuuux
>Amuro is the only one that stay behind

I think there is enough for a sequel but it would probably be awful. This is a decent 7-8/10 anime.

It joins G-reco as the only other decent Gundam show.

It was kino and if you didn't like it, it's a reflection of your bad taste

>>23344671
>Amuro, bored out of his mind, decides to build his own Gundam
>A Gundam piloting a Gundam

>>23344657
>They couldn't help themselves
that could be applied to practically every episode past episode 2

It was both absurd and kino at the same time
can't wait for the inevitable movie sequel.
was the giant grey grandpa a reference to the novel?

>>23344365
It might be worse than IBO but I had a lot more fun with this than IBO

why did CCA Amuro became the Gundam? Are we missing something?
(him holding the haro in the end card was cute)

The was, painfully mediocre in every aspect that wasn't visual.
You could just watch Gunbuster and Diebuster back to back, and experience the same theming but done better

>>23343334 (OP)
Not gonna lie, I clapped when the Gundam opened his month and turned into an Eva. Bravo, Anno.

>>23344730
But there's no Charwank or ebin Evangelion references on those shows...

>>23344728
they literally state they put other world parts into it that were similar to the rose, so Amuro basically got placed into the gquuux via those.

>>23344600
>Lalah gets exactly what she wanted
No, she gets the fuck out to their original timeline where Char is dead.

>>23344741
What are you talking about? Gunbuster has tons of eva references

Chalia saw Char's possible future for one second and immediately thought "This man is nuts"

I don't want to just say this show relies entirely on nostalgia but it genuinely feels like it has next to nothing to say on its own.
Like it briefly touches on war refugees and discrimination, but the vast majority of the show is just tangled up in the UC setting.
If you tried to tell this exact same story without the framing of 0079, you'd be left with a few fights and some really odd character interactions, but nothing of substance

>>23344770
when you're forced to get it done in just 12eps a lot of things ends up being glossed over, it's not just world building but actual characters end up suffering.
>If you tried to tell this exact same story without the framing of 0079, you'd be left with a few fights and some really odd character interactions, but nothing of substance
yes anon, if you remove the thing the show was using as a framing it would be weird, this is a dumb point.

>>23344728
Did you watch CCA? Did you notice how the psychoframe sample Chan was studying housed her soul after it was unbound from her body by her death? Same thing for Amuro with the Nu's psychoframe. A piece of that fell into the GQuuuuuuX timeline through Axis Shock, Zeon discovered it, realized it was something unfathomable and otherworldly (like the psycho shard and the Turn A), and installed it in a mobile suit as the basis for the Omega Psycommu unit.

I wouldn't be surprised if the GFreD also had a piece of the Nu's psychoframe in it too.

Anyone catch the subs on Amazon prime where the gquuuuuux told machu to have an abortion ? What was up with that.

Why can't the Japanese resist spelling everything out?
If they wanted the conclusion of the show being about how Machu is "a true newtype" because she never gave up and always strives toward her goal... they could have showed that thoughout the show.
Instead we get a monologue by Chalia and Machu screaming out loud what her character arc is supposed to be.

Except that's not even what her character was about from my understanding!
Her whole deal was about wanting to be free. She's basically a rebellious teen that runs away from home... When was anything about "rising against adversity" and "never giving up" brought up in relation to Machu?

This whole ending is such a disapointment, it's a lot of pretty lights and it can be entertaining in the moment. But it completly squanders the characters it spent half the show setting up.

Call me crazy but I really though the pacing of the show was spot on until we left side-6. Then the show starts a parallel between Machu and Nyaan, with the former becoming a prisoner (which is in theme with her desire for freedom that has been built up) and the latter becoming an 'ace' (for lack of a better word) under Kycilia. Though it clear, not even subtext, that Nyann is being manipulated and she's just as much a captive as Machu is.
I though they were going somewhere with this... There's something *good* to be done with these character!

But the past 3 episodes really just piss it all away.
It really feels like a different writer took over, one that didn't pay at all attention to what's been setup in this show.

This show was made for the 45th anniversary right? It's clearly more a celebration show than a big new entry

>>23343702
What was this again?

>>23344909
sazabi

>>23344840
It wasn't. They never said such thing.

>>23344609
sheeeeeit

How does the Machuverse continues existing if it was all Lalah's dream and she woke up?

>>23344929
Apparently her waking up doesn't destroy the universe, her getting killed does.
Which makes it strange that her beginning to wake up is what made Deux go berserk.

Surprised Furuya managed to return after his messy situation ,unless it was a really good imitator

>>23344933
It's him, and this wasn't his return as he never left, still doing Gundam games and commercials when needed.

>>23344784
anon plenty of descent shows come out at 12 eps. I won't call you a complete GCoper yet but come on. will this be the forever refrain for bad shows? he just needed more time? heh....

So is the Gundam just a homicidal maniac or is it like that because Lalah sees it that way?

>>23344829
>Her whole deal was about wanting to be free. She's basically a rebellious teen that runs away from home... When was anything about "rising against adversity" and "never giving up" brought up in relation to Machu?
It was bad. Everything amounted to cliches that are of little import, especially when you think back on the actual depictions of the characters. Machu's idea of freedom was subverting societal convention, feeling in direct control of her life, and she only truly suffers when things beyond her control take place outside of her tantrum at Nyaan that is self-afflicted afterwards. It has nothing to do with her actual decisions that lay at the heart of character having direct consequences nor are there greater implications found in the narrative. Her goal eventually materialized into going to Earth after chasing Kira Kira and then helping Shuji, but this propping up of what amounted to teenage rebellion and horniness just comes across as inane. Nyaan may have suffered the most. That line about Kycilia tasting her cooking was something else.

>>23344419
I have never dropped a show as fast as I dropped Star Driver. EXACTLY 60 seconds into the show some girl on a beach says the line "I smell a boy I don't know". That was it. I knew then and there that it was trash.

>>23344241
>2. Anno just trolled the fuck out of everyone because he thinks fans need to grow up.
I think it's this and this is why I hate Anno, he thinks he's the only one allowed to enjoy his hobbies

>>23345003
This has nothing to do with this
this was just a show made for fun

when Lalah says "Mr Newtype" is it to Shuji or Amuro?

>>23344583
>George Lucas famously created a post vietnam movie dealing with fascism based on the old scifi serials and japanese samurai movies he watched.
MFW when Star Wars suddenly makes sense o_O

>>23345020
The last time he did it everyone clapped too. That's what makes him a master troll, he can give you the middle finger and you'll think he's giving you a wad of cash.

>>23344609
dude ...

>>23345065
Anno didn't direct this show
And Anno love anime

>>23344981
What if all the original characters, Machu, Nyaan, Deux, et al. are actually just reflections of different parts of Lalah herself? How she sees part of herself? Or how she wishes part of herself would be?

Too deep?

>>23344241
>2. Anno just trolled the fuck out of everyone because he thinks fans need to grow up.
The entire theme of the closing episodes, once the truth of things started coming out is that trying to hold onto the past and endlessly trying to correct something you fucked up on is bad. You should just let go and move on.

>>23344299
Yes. The irony is palpable in that one.
Anno is either a master-troll; or he finally learned to self-reflect.

Anno only wrote the OYW stuff. stop obsessing on him...

>>23345090
It really shows how uneducated about the series the people who dislike it while parroting about Anno's involvement are.

>>23344933
calling it messy is the understatement of the century, abusing your pregnant wife doesn't sound like the kind of shit you should be able to bounce back from, but I guess everything goes in Japan if the Kenshin guy is still around

>>23345109
He did get kicked of his other roles, amuro's the oddity
perhaps he has a close friend in the Gundam team

>>23345109
It wasn't his wife, it was his mistress which makes it worse since he was both abusive AND an adulterer.

>>23345109
It wasn't his wife (which makes things worse). But what would you want him to do anyway? Recluse himself or get throw into a jail forever? It's not like he's a doctor who abused his patient and because of that should lose his profession. He's just an entertainment guy and voice acting is his job. He already lost the character he used to seduce the fan anyway (Conan).

>>23345143
>>23345147
Wasn't the lady around his daughter's age?

>>23345151
Yeah, he's in his 70s and the woman he impregnated and aborted was around late 30s I think.

>>23345147
I guess it's just weird that HE of all people is the fanservice pick, when other popular classic characters got re casted.
Like yeah, sure let's bring back the abusive adulterer, when everyone else got the memo and dropped his ass, like I do get that since it was going to be a throwaway line that making it clear-ish as to who is talking is important, but just get someone who sounds similar. I don't think anyone would get mad over him getting scabbed of all people

>>23345179
Char's from the other side and the sleeping Lalah were also the original voice so it was important to keep this trio, I guess. Plus, as it has been said before, he never stopped working for Gundam in games and other short stuff. His character is dead anyway, he's never coming back full time.

>>23345046
I'm pretty sure it's to Machu since Amuro and Shuji are from the other side. Probably just subbers translating san as Mr

>>23345179
It's in character for Amuro honestly. He'd definitely do the same given the chance. Makes the seiyuu fitting.

>>23345160
Good lord

>>23345218
They were both adults, who cares what their ages were. It doesn't make it worse, or rather it's bad enough regardless of how old they are.

I'm honestly surprised that Kycillia was so under-prepared when trying a Coup and overthrowing Giren.

All she had to back her up were like 10 weak newtype pilots using Gyan knock-offs. That's it?

No special mobile armors. No super ace in the hole weapons. No next generation mobile suits? I thought Kycillia would bring more to the table than just some poison and her Gyan Knockoffs piloted by some jobbers.

She had 5 years to prepare. Very disappointed.

>>23345081
It doesn't really work because of how muddled the characterization of these characters are (Deux seemed more like a cautionary tale at odds with what they seemed to be going for in the end) and they don't really get at the root of her dilemma as presented in the show. Lalah and Shuji stand out in a bad way when I consider the show as a whole.

>soul of amuro grooms machu into wanting to fuck this worlds version of him
how does he get away with it?

>>23345240
to be fair what go in the way, were mostly things beyond her control, on paper, Chalia and the Gquuuuuux pilot, who had previously saved her life, probably didn't even register as threads, and when the pet you just groomed is in command of a planet busting weapon it seems rather small
I don't think you could have planned ahead for a grandpa from another timeline and char coming back from the dead

>>23345287
Bitches love harapan. It makes their head and belly go all kira kira.

Oh wow. Kycillia had a flashback about wanting to be mother, raise children, and not fight a war.

Imagine if Kycillia was the one that ran away instead of Garma. Then Kycillia secretly marries someone (I guess Johnny Ridden?) and has a happy family. That alt-timeline would have been seriously more interesting than what we got.


Instead we got MAAACHUU, and NYAAAAAN, and SHUUUJI.

Girls in this show either want to fuck boys or birth day.

You know what, this show was pure trash but goddamn it was an enjoyable trash. The only thing I'm mad about is that we didn't get to see Gihren's Puru army, but at least this probably means that they'll get to live a happy life under reformed Zeon.
>>23344089
>Zeon's economy is still in the shit
>have to deal with the fallout of their top secret energy project turning out to be a WMD
>have to deal with Gihren military loyalists
>have to deal with Kycillia newtype loyalists
>have to deal with the Earth Federation trying to regain their influence in the colonies
>probably not that many Deikun loyalist left after years of Zabi reigns
She got a lot of work ahead of her.

>>23345599
What is with the Japanese and their obsession whiteness and blonde hair? Why are their so envious? They always do this in their writing.

>Japanese shitting on redheads

I've never met redheads that get upset about blondes. What's the deal here? Red heads have their own charm too.

>>23345670
Objectively, blonde+blue eyes is the universal standard of beauty. Personally I like red heads too but it's not hard to understand why it's idolized by races who don't have it.

>0 (zero) kills AND saved her universe from destruction
Move over, Kira Yamato, there's a new messiah in town.

>>23345670
Ginger detected.

>>23344419
Captain Earth is unwatchable. They shouldn't have let him write a mecha show after that.

>>23344569
ENGRISH
Should have been 'let's get to the beginning'. Probably.

>>23344657
She didn't even deserve death.

>>23344753
Why can't she simply kidnap Char and take him with her to be her boytoy? I guess her universe has brainwashing techniques as well? Why the hell isn't this a fairytale-inspired story about sacrifice for the good of humanity, like Shamanic Princess? (Char agreeing to be kidnapped to another world.)

Men should NEVER be allowed to write for the female audience.

>>23346248
Women want men to write for them, they just don't know it.

>>23343888
>Not a fan of biblical references, but iirc the poem is about a woman in love with solomon and there is specifically a point where she is self conscious about her skin being dark from being in the sun too much, unlike other girls chasing after solomon. He doesn't care, loves her anyway.
Holy shit.
So it's about how Char loves Lalah even though she's literally a prostitute who has been taken by hundreds of men.

>>23346235
She wanted to kill everyone on earth.
Yes she deserved to die. She had one redeeming quality and that she was nice to nyaan

>>23343886
>AU where Zeon wins OYW was a somewhat interesting concept that will now be never revisited because of this trash.

This also saddens me. I feel this is our one and only taste of this concept, and they sort of fucked it up.

>>23344707
>its haro shaped

>>23343334 (OP)
This what happens when you pander to trannies.

G-3 Gundam is a confirmed kaiju as of G-Quacks Gunduck! Not complaining, that's just cool. Fantastic series and current anime of the year.

>>23345670
Blame that one swede twink