Long live the Queen of the Universal Century

>>23343625 (OP)
Wasn't she in the Guncannon?

>>23343645
she was the Feddie top ace in this timeline and then became the leader of Zeon, yes

>>23343645
Yes, and she survived. Challia wanted a descendant of Zeon Deikun to lead the principality instead of a cursed Zabi family, but refused to let Char be the leader since he understood Char was as empty as him, which meant he would have nothing to lose and no frame of reference to keep him eventually falling to despair and attempting to destroy the Earth. Char got the message and decided to fuck off from military duty to go shag Lalah, so Sayla became the Queen of Zeon instead.

It means the Principality and the Federation are probably going to reconcile eventually because Sayla's not insane, and Haman and Mineva get to lead ordinary lives instead.

>>23343661
>the Feddie top ace in this timeline and then became the leader of Zeon
The one to bring balance to the force...

>>23343661
And yet she never showed up

>>23343708
bask is still around so i wouldn't bet on that.

>>23343625 (OP)
More like the Annoversal Century

>>23343625 (OP)
Should've been Garma desu.
Char was idolized because he was a war hero and fought for Colonies basically his whole life on top of his blood.
Sayla's singular merit is being Zeon's child which is just fucking stupid (I assumme they don't know that she literally fought against them in the war).

>>23344471
>Sayla's singular merit is being Zeon's child which is just fucking stupid
That's literally how dynastic politics work.

>blonde
>former soldier
>lone remnant of a brutal dynasty
>timefuckery involved
I'm not the only one seeing it, right?

>>23344471
As opposed to Mineva being the sole Zabi being not stupid at all?

>>23344471
Didn't she kill Dozle in this timeline?

>>23344309
That’s canon

>>23344510
Who?

>>23343625 (OP)

>>23344589
Krista/Historia from Attack on Titan.

>>23344309
If I know anything about Gcuckfags they'll defend this happening entirely off screenwhen it would have been more interesting as a focus, and say it's unentertaining on purpose

>>23344589
The chick whose marriage to a simple farmer mindbroke thousands of Attack on Titan fans.

>>23343625 (OP)
Also Ramba Ral survived in this timeline

>>23343625 (OP)
You'd think M'Quve, Delaz or any hard-line Zabi loyalists in the military would have something to say about this but they probably got offscreened or something.

>>23346187
M'Quve's too busy LE DINGing his priceless vases he totally did not loot from Earth's museums to give a shit. Delaz probably died when Axis got vored.

>>23346592
I meant A Baoa Qu, arr asteroids rook same.

>>23344616
>say it's unentertaining on purpose
I hate how some people unironically use this as a defence of a work.

Focusing on this would have been a better show than what we got

>>23343625 (OP)
Will she attend her brother's wedding?

>>23344475
Zeon only became a dynasty under the Zabis. Deikun was just the PM, so Sayla doesn't have any dynastic claim. Garma on the other hand does.

>>23346187
>Delaz
Non-canon fan fiction. Just like anything not made by Tomino.

>>23344471
>>23348850
>Garma
Garma wiped his hands of the military and Zeon politics and got to settle down with Icelina in New Yark. As far as I'm concerned, Garma was the real big winner of the GQuuuuuuX timeline and it's not even close.

>>23348853
>Just like anything not made by Tomino.
Would you cut it out with this nonsense? Not even the bald coot cares at this stage. You're simping for no reason whatsoever.

>>23348850
Deikun is the founding father and had lots of powerful supporters, including the Ral family. Fucking hell, the country and its capital are both named after Sayla's father.

>Sayla doesn't have any dynastic claim
To the Zabi family, she doesn't. But that isn't an impediment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretender

This entry feels so empty, no depth whatsoever. Just 'what if Zeon had won' (but we won't focus on that), 'what if Lalah was a Goddess' (but we'll never elaborate), 'what if some Dimensional Janny twink fell for a redhead' (with no set-up other than 'because Newtypes').

The story doesn't even deliver in the FEELS department - name just ONE emotional scene.

>>23346654
I agree. Good "uncertainty" is when something is left open for interpretation but still leaves people satisfied. A good example is whether Big Smoke in San Andreas ever was truly CJ's friend. Bad uncertainty is when important information is left conveyed. A good example here is G-Witch's entire worldbuilding, which needs to be explained from secondary sources.
The former is not usually defended, because there's no reason for defending it. The latter is usually defended by explaining how it's intentional and we're supposed to read between the lines.

>>23343708
>haman is still alive
100% she's gonna fucking merk sayla and claim the throne, its fucking haman were talking about

>>23349867
Can she do that without being regent

>>23349867
reminder that haman only got into politics because her dad died on axis. if she's living comfortably in side 3 in this universe, there's no reason for her to want to take the throne

>>23343625 (OP)
>what if zeon won
>90% of the run time dedicated to nonsense
>randomly end with Artesia becoming queen
well they succeeded on shitting all over the franchise and its fans well played anno

>>23343625 (OP)
would have loved to have gotten to know her better
>>23343661
wouldn't she have been discovered instantly once the white base was taken? and never been pressed into pilot service?

>>23344616
the gcuck cope changes with every episode and now with every thread. I still remember when anons were predicting that the show couldn't wrap itself up in a satisfying way around episode 9 and it would need to resort to magical bullshit to have some kinda conclusion and they all said that was never going to happen and to keep the faith and stop being so negative
after the final episode suddenly that was always the plan and it was always genius

>>23343625 (OP)
and she wants to be queen why? is she just a puppet for the zabists? is ral forcing her to be some zeonist queen? does she believe in contolism?
and no saying its all left up to the imagination isn't a defence. the show gave us nothing and then randomly this at the end

>>23344397
Bask is just some schmuck who was being strung along by Gihren in this timeline. He has no sanction from the Federation or any base of support like he did in UC-prime. He can do some terrorist bombings maybe but he's a far more manageable threat. Same goes for Scirocco when he gets back, there's no ongoing conflict or warring factions for him to take advantage of.

>>23344616
>>23352901
It's just continual
>ur so dumb you can't get an anime 4 middle schoolers
from them whenever anyone points it out. It's especially bad on /a/, since they suck Tsurumaki's cock because he directed Fooly Cooly 22 years ago. But yeah, GQX has a loooot of cool ideas, too many in fact, and it can't do any of them justice because
>12 episodes
It's really frustrating when they introduce some cool plot thread or a cool new character, but then immediately and unsatisfactorily conclude them and move onto the next thing. And then the final stretch becomes straight up nostalgia wank. I know some fans really like that shit, but I see it as disrespectful. These themes and characters should not just be callbacks and cameos to decorate your show with, they should be explored and evolved properly.

>>23352959
Bask had enough support to get a highly experimental armor (implied to have been built with artifacts from the otherside) with two experimentally enhanced super soldier children for what amounted to a suicide operation.

>>23346187
M'Quve isn't really some ideologue and if he survived will just go with whoever signs his paycheck. Delaz and the rest of Gihrens loyalists were destroyed at A Baoa Qu, like they explicitly say on screen that's why they're destroying it I don't understand how people don't understand this. But in the end there's no reason for there to be all the different NeoNeoNeo Zeons running around in this timeline because Zeon never lost the war. Thus there was no reason for the whole movement to splinter off in a million directions since there's no leadership vacuum. There's no mass exodus to axis or stranded zeon holdouts on earth to stew in their own filth for years self-radicalizing and preparing for war.

>>23352965
I have slowly become a qux hater because of this. or maybe I should say I hate the writing staff for what they did
they knew how many episodes they had and they just didn't give a fuck

>>23352967
Yeah, from Gihren, who is now dead along with all his supporters. Remember Gundams are Zeon tech in this timeline and Gihren is the one behind the cyber-newtype clones, and Kycillia even directly states that it was Gihren who leaked her location.

>>23352971
I don't buy Gates and Doo being clonetypes. Clone newtypes are more stable and physically enhanced. They're healthier and can take way more abuse than a normal human could. Deux, on the other hand, looks like a stiff breeze would be enough to kill her.

>>23352905
“Reluctantly takes a position of authority for the sake of preserving peace” is the story of like 70% of Gundam princesses so we can assume that’s Artesia’s too, which lines up with why Challia says he supports her

Yes I know “peace” isn’t a real ideology but for Gundam princesses it acts like one

>>23352978
I mean for a figure head just maintaining status quo so that the forces behind the scenes can do what they please is a very realistic option

>>23352979
Contextually she’s implied to have actual power though

>>23352971
>Gihren is the one behind the cyber-newtype clones
Like Father, Like Son.
I know it's the other way around in this case, but I wanted to use the saying.

>>23352982
Id imagine that ral wanted her to and that this version of her is more interested in contolism and what newtypes can do for humanity
I wish we saw more of that

>>23352989
That would require an idea of what she’d actually do once she takes the throne instead of just being a pretty deus ex machina

>>23352998
>deus ex machina
Retard.

>>23353002
Okay then, explain how it happened in a way that fits both the theme the ending is going for and doesn’t require things that aren’t even hinted at in the show

>>23352998
yeah unfortunately the show had to kick me in the balls with one more interesting thing we NEVER see just to really rub some salt in the wound
fuck the writing team

>>23352976
Deux is 100% some kind of sickly dolly the sheep clone. Their clone tech is also way behind the prime universes, even if only because it's literally earlier in the timeline. Remember it took them years in-universe to get the process good enough to make cyber newtypes who weren't batshit autists.

>>23353058
The other thing is that she's from the Murasame Labs, and they use orphans for their stock. Their procedures are more invasive and brutal than Augusta and Vist, which is why Deux looks like a freak in comparison to Gates, and why you don't have a single example of one of their cybernewtypes making it to adulthood (whereas we have a handful of Augusta newtypes growing up and even healing from their trauma). Furthermore, in side material like Gihren's Greed or Four's novel, it's noted that Murasame Lab cybernewtypes don't have very long to live as they're so sickly.

>>23353058
If she was a clone on loan from Gihren like some posit, she'd have been a Ple. Both the Ple and Glemy clones used Gihren's sperm, probably because the idea of a bunch of superhuman progeny would have appealed to his sensibilities. This is why Ple has the signature female Zabi hair color.

>>23353058
her visual design subtly sells that with her looking inhuman (even for qux designs)
I wish we could learn a little more about what drives her to be so rabid, I mean obviously we can assume what they did to her but I wish she had som catharsis before she died

>>23353123
>I wish we could learn a little more about what drives her to be so rabid

Typical Fooly Cooly director. Gives you breadcrumbs and expects you to build your own story out of it. What we know about Deux is that despite not seeing herself as a person and being largely unemotional (unless kira-kira is involved), she still carries around a stuffed animal, so is probably still affection starved like most newtypes. As a Murusame, and a particularly ghastly looking one at that, she's probably in constant pain from her procedures. Likely, and this is where it gets headcanony, the kira-kira was the closest thing she has to experiencing affection and positive emotions, and is the only thing she looked forward to in her miserable life. Hence, her going nutso when she loses it.

>I mean obviously we can assume what they did to her but I wish she had som catharsis before she died
I think that's why people have so much difficulty accepting her death and still believe she's just in hiding. It didn't really vibe with the overall theme of GQX either, especially towards the end, but it is a Khara tradition by this point to bad end the most miserable and unluckiest character while having the one who purposefully screws up his/her happy life get a happy ending.

My bigger gripe is how did she access the kira-kira. From Gate's reaction of her talking about the sparkles, it doesn't seem to something that is know about or intended (he treats Deux like an inconvenient loon). We find out later that kira-kira seems to be tied to Lalah OOParts, so this raises questions of how the Federation got their hands on those parts.

>>23352892
>anno
>again
You're just a midwit screaming to shadows and is better to ignore whatever you have to said.

>>23353144
>Typical Fooly Cooly director. Gives you breadcrumbs and expects you to build your own story
can we just kill this nigga
>>23353148
sure man sure just a few more cope posts and everyone will love g-cucked right? let me guess everyone in this thread is also me right? meds now you insufferable freak

>>23353148
>anno
>again
yeah shit for brains he's made more than one project and theyre all fucking trash
go back to /a/ if you wanna circle jerk Eva
fucking tourist retard

>>23352901
>I still remember when anons were predicting that the show couldn't wrap itself up in a satisfying way around episode 9 and it would need to resort to magical bullshit to have some kinda conclusion and they all said that was never going to happen and to keep the faith and stop being so negative
/m/'s doomerism wins once again!

>>23352905
>is ral forcing her to be some zeonist queen?
Considering what a tinfoil nut Jimba was in The Origin, it's not unthinkable that his brand of wingnut got passed down to his son.

>>23352959
>Same goes for Scirocco when he gets back, there's no ongoing conflict or warring factions for him to take advantage of.
He still has his grooming powers, so a personality cult around him will form for sure. He might got the Shoko Asahara route though.

>>23353700
Ramba’s too inherently submissive to do anything like that, If anyone convinced Sayla it was Challia

>>23353159
The only cope is the midwits trying to force their memes and pass as some sort of real insight.
>>23353170
Correct, and he has barely a connection with Gquuuuuux as a project.

Loli Haman.

>>23353159
>>23353144
Too smart 4u

>>23355441
what a shit show, literally

>>23355441
He does over explain too many things like 98% of all anime but those things are of no actual significance.

Why would a woman who rejected 10 lifetimes worth of gold and who changed her identity be interested in ruling as a figurehead?

>>23355976
How do we know she’s a figurehead? She could be actually in charge

>>23355620
>overexplain memes
>underexplain the actual plot
typical fanfic writer

>>23356054
Shoo bot, shoo.

>>23356018
She could be anything, since the fuckers didn't bother writing Sayla.

>>23356054
qux is my immortal tier lmao

>>23355976
You're making the mistake of believing the writers of this OYW fanfic actually care about the characters and concepts they obsess over

>>23356074
>I totally love these characters and this story but let me tell you how to fix it by completely changing everything and missing the entire point of the original
archetypal fan fiction shit.

>>23356064
>>23356074
>>23356089
See >>23356057

>>23355976
>>23356060
>>23356074
“Young artist ratio woman reluctantly accepts a leadership position for the purposes of keeping the peace” is an established enough Gundam trope at this point it shouldn’t be hard to figure out

>>23356114
*aristocratic

>>23355976
Sayla taking up the responsibility and becomes the head of Zeon isn't unacceptable but it needs buildup which GQuX hasn't.
I thought they missed the boat in ep 9 by changing who Machu met from Sayla to Lalah, by since that's never in the card they are even bigger hacks then I thought.

>>23356121
>it needs buildup which GQuX hasn't
Because it's not even an important plot point to the rest of the show, it's just a bow to tie the show together.

>>23356123
If they couldn't afford the time investment required to use the Sayla bow, they shouldn't use it in the first place. Because right now it doesn't tie anything together. It only raises more questions.

>>23356131
>it doesn't tie anything together
Watch the show.
>It only raises more questions
Discussion isn't a bad thing, the opposite even.

>>23355441

>Recently, a Gquuuuuux Q&A was held with director Tsurumaki, writer Enokido, and Tomoyo Kurosawa (Machu VA). Some of the info is already out there.

>The idea for the series came about way back when Tsurumaki and Enokido were working on FLCL. Enokido asked Tsurumaki what he would do if he could remake the First Gundam, and Tsurumaki said he would make Chalia Bull a main character.

>The Earth arc (episode 9) was planned to have Machu meet a married couple who would teach her about love. (and also draw parallels to Amuro meeting Ramba Ral and Hamon in OG Gundam)

>They wanted to have either Matilda and Woody OR Kai and Miharu. If they had gone with the latter, Miharu would have been a high-ranking Zeon and an ally of Chalia.

>This idea was scrapped as Machu's parents are already married, so there was nothing it would add. So it was changed to her encounter with Lalah.

>The main focal point of the story for Tsurumaki and Enokido is Machu's growth as a person. But what would make someone like Machu, who is reckless and hates authority, grow and change? It was decided to use the other female characters to challenge Machu's worldview.

>Nyaan, Annqi, Shiiko, and Lalah are all women whom Machu would not encounter in her everyday life, and all potentially reflect the kind of person she could potentially become.

>Machu is intended to be an accurate representation of the youth, who often think impulsively. "If I don't do ___ now, everything will be ruined!"

>Kurosawa agrees, saying that Machu acts so irrationally that she feels like a completely different person in episode 1 than in episode 5.

>Char's "magical girl transformation" came about due to the director's desire to have him in his classic outfit instead of the standard uniform. They didn't want to have him manually change clothes, so a big influence on Tsurumaki was AKIRA and its usage of staircases. Hence, several scenes in Gqux prominently feature staircases.

>>23356381

>The display of Char mobile suits from alt timelines was their way of easily communicating to the viewer how many world resets there have been in only a single visual. Tsurumaki admits he let his otaku brain go nuts here.

>It was planned from the start that the original RX-78 would be the final boss. But they ran into the issue of how to make an "old" design feel intimidating.

>One idea they had was to make the RX-78 clone itself. But this was dropped due to "another work having already done that."

>The Gundam going "hyper mode" (in homage to Aura Battler Dunbine) was another idea that was tossed around, and ultimately the one that they went with simply because no one could think of anything better.

>Tsurumaki would spend an hour explaining the worldview of each character to the actors before recording. Whenever the younger actors were confused, the seniors would enthusiastically explain things.

>The production team was prone to "accelerating without stepping on the brakes"

>According to Enokido, "small Zeknovas" are a frequent occurrence in the GQ world.

>During the 0079 flashback in ep 12, the Gelgoog's beam naginata was originally yellow; however, Tsurumaki insisted that it be changed to blue-white as he wanted to reference the TV anime version of the scene specifically (as opposed to the movie version).

>Some members of the staff were worried about depicting a brothel, if it was 'acceptable' in a mecha anime.

>Tsurumaki received feedback from some of the cast saying they didn't understand the show's plot, which came as a surprise to him, as from his perspective, he was worried that the script had over-explained too many things.

>>23356382
>The Gundam going "hyper mode" (in homage to Aura Battler Dunbine) was another idea that was tossed around, and ultimately the one that they went with simply because no one could think of anything better
Yeah that sounds about right for a crew so lacking in creativity

>>23356381
>The main focal point of the story for Tsurumaki and Enokido is Machu's growth as a person. But what would make someone like Machu, who is reckless and hates authority, grow and change? It was decided to use the other female characters to challenge Machu's worldview.
>Nyaan, Annqi, Shiiko, and Lalah are all women whom Machu would not encounter in her everyday life, and all potentially reflect the kind of person she could potentially become.
They failed so spectacularly at this, but I also think they have a pretty tepid notion of "challenging x's worldview" if that's what they think they did.

>>23356060
It’s implied through visuals rather than stated outright

>>23356470
The only thing the visuals imply is that she isn't happy taking that role, which is pretty in character.

>>23356476
There’s that, but also the fact that she’s an aristocratic monarch rather than an elected representative, that she has followers in government, that she has popular support, and that her rule isn’t a complete transformation.

On a scale of 1-10, how mad would Sayla be finding out her brother is literally living a carefree life with his wife?

>>23357001
Would she give a shit? Even in main UC she didn't seem to give a shit when he tried to drop Axis.

>>23357005
Because she has to be queen now, which is apparently a bad thing according to some people in this thread

>>23357001
Would she be happier if he was there? I doubt it

>>23357001
1?
>I miss Casval-niisan, but I hope he finds happiness with his partner. I will bear the weight of shouldering our father's legacy.
Or
Fuck it ACA - Artesia's Counterattack.

>>23357001
8

>>23343625 (OP)
Does Zeon alien have same sex marriage like Earthling does? Federation has same sex marriage.

>>23352959
>Bask is just some schmuck who was being strung along by Gihren in this timeline.
thats not much different from the regular timeline the man will find a way

>>23362375
>Federation has same sex marriage.
In background material, they banned it for a decades since so many people were dying in space from inadequate infrastructure and logistics.

>>23352969
M’Quve was pretty heavily implied to have feelings for Kycilia, his last thoughts before dying were about delivering that dingy vase to her, I don’t think he’d just sign up for Artesia’s Zeon, especially since Char ventilated Kycilia.

>>23365533
>inadequate infrastructure and logistics.
>check the lore (the 0086 era that was posted a few days ago)
>60-75% of mankind population moved to space
>at mercy of space nazis, war crimes and orbital stations failure
its insane, but im gonna believe it...

>>23365533
Sauce

>>23367003
Lalah: Secret Rendezvous, written by Tomino. Some other snippits:

- Lalah grew up in a brothel called Kabas. This brothel is in Delhi, India.

- Char was in the area to receive a Zanzibar when Lalah basically unconsciously called out to him via Newtype shenanigans. He went to find her and she instantly knew that he was a Zeon soldier even though he had disguised himself. Because, again, Newtype shenanigans.

- At first Char was kind of creeped out by her, but he ultimately decides he wants to recruit her. So he basically goes, "You could say no, but . . .", and Lalah goes along with it because she just wants to feel needed by someone.

>Char has to rescue her when the brothel sends people to try to prevent her from leaving. We find out she was adopted by the brothel's owner when she was 9 years old. There's also a thing about how orphans are usually kicked to the curb as soon as they turn 15 as part of a general thing where the Federation has no interest in improving conditions on Earth in order to encourage people to migrate into space, and letting children be adopted into brothels is part of it too.

>Space migration in general is criticized as capitalists taking advantage of people wanting to do something about climate change and pollution. It also says that even though most of humanity would be forced to live in space, this didn't really do anything and conditions on Earth barely changed at all.

>The Rey family was exempt from being forced to live in space because of Tem's work with the military, and there's apparently a really damn big difference between people who are forced to go to space and people who are eligible for a voluntary migration. The big one is that when you're forced to go to space, as most Spacenoids were, the Federation makes you foot the bill by taking out a crippling loan that typically can't be paid off for three generations in order to ensure most Spacenoids will have no choice but to live in poverty.

>>23367011

>Apparently, most Spacenoids are kept busy either asteroid mining for colony construction materials or with colony maintenance work. Half of their pay is taken to pay back the multi-generation loans forced onto them.

>The Federation also banned homosexuality, but only in the colonies, in order to encourage people to have more kids. This is because a lot of Spacenoids died to health problems unique to living in space. At least in the early days. Though the enforced poverty probably didn't help either.

>It's the above bullshit that allowed Deikun's ideas to take root among a desperate and suffering Spacenoid population, allowing him to easily end up in charge of Side 3. It also mentions that before he took over Side 3 the Federation initially mistook him as nothing more than an occultist or new age guru. And that apparently it was always intended that Zeon would become a Principality. The Zabis are just the ones who actually made it happen after assassinating him.

>It's mentioned that the Federation really, really, really hates the idea of the colonies becoming independent. Because it would apparently cause the collapse of "the current capitalist system".

>Then some actual Amuro stuff . . . He thinks the reason his mom stayed on Earth is because she was having an affair. He was hopeful that he'd enjoy life in space, but ended up deciding that it really just sucks. He's mostly staying with his dad out of a sense of obligation, because he thinks his dad would just completely fall apart if he decided to go back to Earth and live with his mom.


>He used to eat most of his meals with Fraw's family, who frequently worried that Zeon would attack Side 7 because of the Federation presence. It turns out most of the people living at Side 7 are war refugees. Anyways, he didn't want to rely on Fraw's family forever so he taught himself how to cook and stopped going to Fraw's house. But Fraw goes over to his house to take care of him anyways.

>>23367015

>And for info that isn't really needed but made me laugh . . . Amuro likes S&M porn, and he's usually trying to think up ways to keep Fraw from coming over because he's terrified that she'll find out.

>There's a lot of stuff that's basically just a recap of stuff from the show. Though it's confirmed that Tem Rey died in that scene where he fell down those stairs.

>When Dozle dies "for the glory of Zeon", Amuro questions if there is such a thing as glory in Zeon. And the narration even says, "It'd be impressive if there was a man who could honestly believe such a thing."

>The Zabis fucking hated that they had to name the country the Principality of Zeon, and Gihren thinks after winning the war it should be renamed the Principality of Gihren. Kycilia thinks he's being way too rash.

>A thing about how their are travel restrictions for Spacenoids. Namely that if they haven't paid off the enforced loans then they flat out aren't allowed to visit the Earth.

>Both Kycilia and Gihren figured out who Char really was. Additionally, it wasn't Dozle who had Char sacked for failing to protect Garma. It was Gihren.

>During the fight that would end up killing Lalah there was a moment where Sayla really wanted to kill Char because she thinks if he's allowed to live the only thing he'll ever become is a second Gihren.

>Lalah was important to Char because "he didn't think he had the wisdom to be able to endure loneliness". He also knows that she doesn't want him to avenge her, but he doesn't care.

>Char thinks Newtypes like Amuro are dangerous because he thinks Amuro is too obedient to the Federation, and that this obedience encourages the Federation to think of Newtypes as tools.

>>23367011
>It also says that even though most of humanity would be forced to live in space, this didn't really do anything and conditions on Earth barely changed at all
>The big one is that when you're forced to go to space, as most Spacenoids were, the Federation makes you foot the bill by taking out a crippling loan that typically can't be paid off for three generations in order to ensure most Spacenoids will have no choice but to live in poverty
>Apparently, most Spacenoids are kept busy either asteroid mining for colony construction materials or with colony maintenance work. Half of their pay is taken to pay back the multi-generation loans forced onto them
AHAHAHAHAHAHA THE ABSOLUTE BEST OF THE FEDDIE SCUM

>>23367018
>>Char thinks Newtypes like Amuro are dangerous because he thinks Amuro is too obedient to the Federation, and that this obedience encourages the Federation to think of Newtypes as tools
100% correct and Amuro never stopped being an obedient tool.

>>23367011
>>23367015

like /pol/ said:
>Weimar problems requires Weimar solutions

>>23343625 (OP)
All hail the queen.

>>23343625 (OP)
I want to be Sayla's chair.

>>23367215
I think anyone who glazes either the Federation or Zeon are either dumb or insane, though I think Federation fanboys are worse in the West since it's more "acceptable" (and it's a response to Zeon wankery from Japan).

>>23373839
Paptimus won't get a foot in the door.

>>23373839
Emperor of Manking Sayla > Cult leader Lacus.

>>23374538
weird women with half of them having like family issues, this is literally his thing to win in this situation