>Gundam Expert: "The Sieg Axe is a liquid food Gundam that meets the needs of the elderly of the Ice Age generation whose chewing ability has weakened."

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/279423

So true!

>Newfags: This show wasn't for me in the end. Must be for oldfags.
>Oldfags: This show wasn't for me in the end. Must be for newfags.
No one wants to be caught holding the bag for this show lol

Me: it was made for me.

>>23349189
>we'll make a masturbatory nostalgiafest with references the kids don't understand...
>using a bunch of brand new characters and a new setting we wont bother to develop!
I think they purely made it for themselves, honestly.

>>23349209
Pretty much, it was always just Khata jacking it to 0079 while their OCs exist in the corner.

>>23349189
>>23349209
>>23349184 (OP)
>Cherry picking negative reviews so you can larp that it was a flop
>"I-it's japanese, so that means it counts more!"
What drives this behavior

>>23349214
>What drives this behavior
Veddit crossboarders having another shitposting season. It doesn't help that /a/ paraded the show around as a NTR trainwreck or whatever the narrative was a couple weeks ago.

>>23349214
>>23349221
>Cherry picking
Oh, he doesn't know.

>>23349184 (OP)
>a liquid food Gundam that meets the needs of the elderly of the Ice Age generation whose chewing ability has weakened.

Really? I thought the plot reveals in the last episode were still hard to swallow!

>>23349240
>Oh, he doesn't know.
More headcanon cope

>>23349257
Reality doesn't have a canon, anon. It's just reality.

>we the 4channers love Gcucks, everyone that doesn't is a tourist crossboarder
>all of Japan loved Gcucks, the people tbat don't are cherrypicked and trivial and not even japanese
Mental illness.

I don't understand how it's surprising to anyone that this show has limited appeal.

>>23349214
Every board has agendaposters.

>>23349214
Countering the people who say Japan loved it universally

>Something really damning about this show is that, despite the constant key jiggling of references to the original Gundam and Zeta (constantly bringing characters and even music from those even if it plays no role on the plot, like the Titans), it really doesn't seem to understand the characters it is using from those old shows. Why would Char want to do CCA like Challia says? He never lived the events of Zeta, he has no reason to have his faith in humanity broken over his dreams of a giving the next generation to Kamille and the AEUG being shattered, him wanting to do this without that context is completely opposite to his portrayal in the actual CCA movie. Why does Sayla want to lead Zeon? She hates her family heritage, always siding with the Federation at every turn, her suddenly deciding to take it is complete character assassination. And the series just keeps having all these little holes, like why does the Murasame Lab exist if Flannagan research wasn't folded into the Federation, why does Bask have a Psyco Gundam when the Federation lost the Gundam and never even made GMs, why does Haro exist in multiple numbers without Amuro making it popular after the war - this show is more focused on referencing old shows than actually following its premise of exploring a different UC.

>>23349389
Uuuuuum you're a tourist ok???? gb2 /v/ or /a/ ok.

>>23349389
>Why
>Why
>Why
The people behind this dreck aren't Gundam fans but the kind of obnoxious 0079 fans for whom only 0079 and CCA exist and everything in between or later is unessential filler. Sadly over half of japanese boomer gunota are like this.

>>23349428
So the nostalgia-baiting didn't even work on the demographic it was tailor made for?

>>23349389
People thinking that Char actions in CCA are a response of what happen to him on Zeta is just a form to out themselves as reddit-fags. Thus safe to ignore their complains.

>>23349373
I mean it does make sense, those statements don't contradict each other.

>>23349497
Why are tourists and newfags like this guy always the first to point fingers on /m/? It seems to happen without fail.
Yes anon, Char deciding to give humanity another shot in Zeta was actually just a thing we all dreamed up, he was actually thinking about killing more people than Gihren ever dreamed since before the OYW ended, of course.

>Yaraon
Now there's a name I haven't heard in ages and it's usually by people arguing in bad faith

>>23349516
Predditor.

>>23349497
That's just chronologically correct.
Do you get mad that you have to breath air since Reddit does that too?

Char was
>completely out for revenge in 0079
>a good guy in Zeta
>a psycho in Origin
>a psycho in CCA

>>23349546
>>a good guy in Zeta
reddit

>>23349516
Well, I'd say Zeta's script writers were at fault too (especially in the 2nd half of Zeta where Tomino was more distant from the script going by the credits), for implying that, but it definitely wasn't Tomino's intentions if you check his analysis of Char's character in the Zeta proposal or the Zeta novel. There's a reason Tomino himself didn't bother showing this supposed "development". And you have to imagine him reacting and developing off-screen to fit within your worldview. From Tomino's point of view, that development never existed. He was always the same and just lacked direction during Zeta, which is why he can jump from Zeta to CCA with no appearances between them.

His reasons for fighting were entirely driven by the same things that drive him in CCA (feeling like he's only young/alive when fighting, fearing getting older without achieving anything and having no trust in humanity's future).

>>23349621
What do Tomino's unproduced notes matter if they literally contradict what made it into production?

>>23349621
WOGfags are mentally ill.

>>23349663
Because the trajetory of the character clearly was still based on them. Which is why you never get to see this supposed "development" on screen and have to assume he's reacting off-screen to the aftermatch of Zeta and ZZ's events in spite of none of that being even brought up in CCA.

I used to be utterly baffled by CCA skipping on Char's development, before I learned about this, but when I realized Tomino always saw Char like that, everything suddenly made sense.

>>23349621
>And you have to imagine him reacting and developing off-screen to fit within your worldview.
You have to do that to fit him back into CCA's role, from the portions of Zeta that Tomino did not closely supervise either way. Zeta chronologically happened. What we got doesn't suddenly not count cause Tomino had different ideas going in.
Same applies to ZZ.
Quattro and Judau having a beef according to the opening isn't something that actually happened just because it was an idea at some point during production.

>>23349687
>You have to do that to fit him back into CCA's role
I mean, Tomino clealry didn't bother. It's like a manga artist ignoring filler by the anime staff.

>>23349497
Even if you want to ignore Zeta it makes no sense from Challia Bull's perspective for GQuuuuuuX's Char to attempt an Axis drop based around Contolism

Gquuuuuux would have been better if it was 80% raw footage of Garma ploughing Icelina's tight gravity grip earthnoid pussy, 10% Showing Sayla actually manoeuvre into becoming Zeon's leader in a way that isn't written by a scatterbrain, and 10% about Machu

>>23349389
>He never lived the events of Zeta, he has no reason to have his faith in humanity broken over his dreams of a giving the next generation to Kamille and the AEUG being shattered, him wanting to do this without that context is completely opposite to his portrayal in the actual CCA movie.
Char's there dreaming about Lalah and using Quess as a Lalah 2.0 and his dying words are about how he still blames Amuro for Lalah's death, but yeah, the main context for his motivations in CCA is definitely Kamille getting turned into a vegetable, he's absolutely not just picking up where he left off at the end of 0079

Talking about Zeta's existent or nonexistent impact on CCA reminds me of Astonaige's death

>>23349687
>>23349703
You just need to read Char's action in Zeta in a negative way, having in mind what Tomino intended for him, which is likely why he let those scenes in, in the first place.

Like see the Dakar speech, it isn't a big character moment for Char. Char himself says that he feels like a clown there. It was a maneuver to take down the Titans' support and that's it. He likely didn't expect more from it since he didn't believe politics would bring change to the world fast enough.

>>23349621
>Tomino heckin said that Sayla's nipples are pink the his interview with Moe Kyun Kyun magazine #45 in 1983! Her nipples being red in the actual animation is just animators going rogue! It's not canon!
You people are mentally ill.

>>23349840
There's no honest way to interpret Char's theater speech to Haman about how he wants to wait for humanity to move on to the next stage on their own in a negative way. People always say "ummm theater he's lying obviously" but that makes no sense to me because if he was lying for his own benefit he should be trying to appeal to Haman, not antagonize her.
Also right after that he's about to sacrifice himself to fry Haman and Scirocco
with Gryps 2 before Kamille saves him, which is a purely selfless action. Not like he's pretending.

I was never on board with "Kamille going bananas buck broke Char" explanation myself, but him changing his mind after witness this and events of ZZ is the only one that makes sense unless we go full "CCA ignores everything except MSG".
I always wonder what the justification would look like if CCA was never greenlit and Tomino brought Char as a villain in second half o ZZ as was originally planned.

>>23349214
It's Yaraon, a tabloid that just copies content from Futaba

>>23349389
Sayla point is correct, I already said that Gqx Sayla is way different than the original.

>>23349621
How does someone end up this way? Literally hinging their final interpretation of a work of fiction on a hypothetical alternate version that wasn't produced? Back in the day this shit was trivia at best, not information that usurped the final product and the widely accepted canon.
The shit those scriptwriters got into Zeta happened.

>>23349875
Preach.

>>23349621
Tomino definitely knew what was happening, he had Zeta mapped out.

>>23349757
Besides VA scandal, why people keep joking about Amuro as a maso piggy? Did no one read that novel despite the memes? If anything the novel that mentioned his fetish had him fantasizing he could dominate women

>>23349875
Because Char wants to be the one in charge. He wants the world to be changed by him. That is why she turns down Haman at every chance.
>>23349728
The show said it to your face. Challia understand that Char is like him, both were pursuing their ambitions to leave a mark in the world. Challia being at door's death understood that his ambitions were an excuse to fill his existential void. Char on the other hand always avoid to look at the abyss inside him.

>>23349888
I blame the Souls games, or at least the people who overanalyze those stories. Cut content or rough drafts can be interesting because it can give you an idea of how the writers were thinking about their world and story but people use cut shit from Elden Ring to shore up their arguments all the time even though none of that matters by definition because it's cut. Or it could be creator worship too, like these cut ideas are more 'pure' because they're what Tomino originally wanted to happen.

>>23350063
Go back vedditor.

>>23349978
Retard-kun..

>>23349189
I liked the show.

>>23349888
So much modern media comes out either unfinished, convoluted, or just a trainwreck that fans are forced to sift through the pile to figure out what's actually going on. I think it comes from Star Wars fans and their use of books and extra material to fill in gaps. You definitely see this behavior among them when it comes to defending stuff like the prequels or sequels, they'll dredge up a novelization released after the fact based on older versions of the script to make sense of what's going on in their movies even if it doesn't line up at all.

>>23349621
I mean yeah Char does feel alive when fighting and in CCA he doesn't trust humanity's future but Zeta pretty clearly shows him trying to be better. It's not really fair to write off Zeta's actual character rendition of Char when he still ultimately was writing and directing the show as well as signing off on the work.
The dude has had weird notes before and the novels have contradicted the animated shows even back for MSG, to disregard Char's character because of notes before production isn't accurate. Especially since the guy clearly would check his work as shown here >>23349907
with what this anon posted. Sure, WoG can be used to shore up blatant mischaracterization or fill in some unintended plotholes but it's dumb to disregard the entirety of Char's arc in Zeta as redditor nonsense or as trite misinterpretations of the character that Tomino disagrees with.

Also the videogame literally gives us an explicit view into how Char was feeling right after his fight with Haman, and this matches with the offscreen development that we can interpret from Zeta going into ZZ and CCA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQMz7YHPIiI

And I'll throw this in too because an /m/ anon made this a long time ago and it accurately sums the character up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQj2zqqSIks

>>23350059
>Because Char wants to be the one in charge
He actively avoids positions of leadership/influence until circumstances force his hand and even in the final episode is saying to Kamille that youngsters like him and Fa are going to be the ones to change the world, not him.

> Fa was a young woman may have been become a mother to me

>>23350352
>Fa???? A mother!?!?!? AAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

>>23349875
He's not "lying" he's playing a role. Haman says "you're quite the actor" Scirocco calls him out too. Everyone knows he's full of shit. But like he actually does lie to Haman's face when she asks him what he's going to do after he wins. He says he's patient enough to wait to wait for humanity to change naturally but 2 episodes ago he was popping off about converting all of humanity into cybernewtypes just for Dr Hasan to shut it down and then Char pretends like he was just kidding. He just lies nonstop to everyone at the end and isn't even subtle about it.

And he wasn't going to sacrifice himself lmao, seriosuly? He was trying to escape and got cornered. Scirocco went into the laser to disable it so it doesn't fire and he went in to stop Scirocco, failed, then ran but they followed him. If Scirocco just finished destroying the laser instead of following Char into the theater there wouldn't even be anything to sacrifice

>>23349888
>Literally hinging their final interpretation of a work of fiction on a hypothetical alternate version that wasn't produced?
Because the alternative reading relies on writing a bunch of fanfiction to attempt to line up Zeta Char with CCA Char?

>>23350483
Motherfucker, the only things that matter are the ones that made it into the final cuts of the shows, I don't care what side story stuff or goddamn Tomino interview you pull out of your ass if it wasn't in 0079, Zeta, ZZ or CCA it doesn't fucking matter, and if shit doesn't perfectly line up that's fine too.

>>23350474
He doesn't pretend like he was kidding, he doesn't even disagree with Dr Hasan's take on the concept. I think you're going into each interaction automatically assuming he's lying and grasping for straws to justify that.
Haman and Scirocco may not believe him but one's a power hungry tyrant who manipulates children and the other one is a power hungry tyrant who manipulates women, why should we take their word over Char's, or the people of the AEUG for that matter?
I wouldn't say Char was always an ideological person and he definitely had bad habits but the takeaway from Zeta Char isn't that he's faking it and floundering around. If he wanted that supreme power he was talking about and to leave a mark on the world, he'd have started his own Neo Zeon and led it himself. If he was so gassed up about Cyber Newtypes, why wasn't he pushing the AEUG to capture Murasame Labs and attempt to pursue that? That doesn't even line up with CCA Char since he decides to instead toss a massive fucking asteroid at the planet.
And yeah, he was buying time in the theater after attempting to escape, but he was fully prepared to die there if it meant Scirocco and Haman got fucked too.

The interpretation is pretty clear, Char was always a complex figure with issues but it's hammered in time and time again that his legacy and entire life has been impacted by the scheming and violence of others. Zeta was his opportunity to break away from that and push for a future in which people understood and cooperated with each other, and both Zeta and ZZ clearly show his entire dream crumbling before his eyes. It's why at CCA he gave the Psycho-Frame to Amuro even though it has him lose, and why his speech says he's rejoining his father: he's not doing it to cement his legacy he's doing it to end his family's legacy and what it had become while as a last ditch effort to force everyone into space and improve. It's an existential form of suicide.

>>23350505
Oh, so you are a structuralist. Does that means you supports death of the author?
Because that is what you are asking for on your post.

>>23350574
You're totally misreading CCA. Char isn't trying to force everyone into space. He is quite literally trying to GENOCIDE the earthnoids. Earth doesn't even have enough ships headed off the planet for their military personnel and military families, let alone the masses. The people in Lhasa didn't even know about it until it was about to hit them. He doesn't want anyone to escape he wants them to die as penance.

You're trying to ignore the literal psychic characters who can read each other's hearts, even if they find each other repulsive. But you don't even have to listen to them because Char in CCA tells you exactly what he's doing. He's punishing the oldtypes. And he's genuinely surprised when he loses to Amuro too. He may be willing to die, but he's not doing it to end his family's legacy. He isn't a person who cares about legacy. In all versions of the story he doesn't know where Sayla is and in BC he even says she might be on earth, but he was still going to kill her anyway. He just has some cope about "it's a good thing this magic pushed axis back since Sayla is on earth" after the plan failed. His family and his father and his father's legacy aren't things he cares about at all, not even enough to put an end to it. They're things that don't matter even an ounce to him and they never did.

He sees him as the judge of humanity and is on a wild power trip thinking he's going to bend mankind to his will whether he's dead or alive after, that's all. He's another megalomaniacal retard like Gihren, Scirocco, and Haman. He's just craftier about it than they were. He's a showman who hides his true nature behind false pretenses and supposed good intentions and exploits the naive good conscience of other people to get his way.

>If he was so gassed up about Cyber Newtypes, why wasn't he pushing the AEUG to capture Murasame Labs and attempt to pursue that
He literally does pursue cyber newtypes? Gyunei is too expensive though.

>>23350063
>Or it could be creator worship too, like these cut ideas are more 'pure' because they're what Tomino originally wanted to happen.
Yes, this happens all the time here. Shows are reduced to the One Solitary Creator (especially when the debate involves either Tomino or Anno), when in fact they're made by a staff, where ideas are pitched in collectively. The Chief Director only has the privilege of last cut, but that's it.
For instance, Tomino didn't personally write most of Victory. The actual screenwriters were working off his "Memo".

>>23350720
Frankly every time domino makes a nove!isation of his anime or view versa the anime is always better. I don't really care for Amuro dying to some Rick Doms or Kamille commuting suicide and I certainly don't care for his unborn newtype baby

>>23350720
>>23350730
This also explains why G-Reco is so... polarizing. Unlike every other Gundam show Tomino has made, this is the only one integrally written by him, with nobody else sharing credit.
Even Okuichi wrote more episodes of Turn A than "Minoru Yokitani".

>>23350730
>>23350732
It makes a lot of sense that the novels are filled with crazy, out there ideas that are kind of interesting but also not really that appealing, and then the series is where the actual magic happens. The older I get the more I appreciate some basic checks and balances to stop one writer from reintroducing their obsessions again or head the story and setting in weird directions that don't make any sense to anyone but themselves.

Watching someone do a one writer,one director magnum opus work in particular is like watching a critter evolve to live in caves. It always just slowly transforms into something unrecognizable that only makes sense in its environment. You need someone else's input or suddenly your fish has no eyes. See gothicmade.

>>23349546
This is a fair assessment.

>>23350745
>It makes a lot of sense that the novels are filled with crazy, out there ideas that are kind of interesting but also not really that appealing, and then the series is where the actual magic happens. The older I get the more I appreciate some basic checks and balances to stop one writer from reintroducing their obsessions again or head the story and setting in weird directions that don't make any sense to anyone but themselves.
This is the reason why authors need editors behind them. Otherwise, you end up like Anne Rice and your hit vampire saga is suddenly about (and no, this is not a joke) human-alien hybrids from Atlantis.

>>23350655
>Char isn't trying to force everyone into space. He is quite literally trying to GENOCIDE the earthnoids.
I'm aware of this, by force everyone into space I mean that his actions will force humanity to live in space. Not that he literally intends for everyone to leave the Earth first before dropping Axis: his actions are ultimately to make humanity a spacenoid people. You've simply read my words and assumed I meant LITERALLY forcing everyone on Earth into space via Axis, which is obviously not what he did, lmao.
>They're things that don't matter even an ounce to him and they never did.
Are you sure about that? He does believe in Newtypes and the idea of spacenoids leading to peace as his father did, he literally dedicated his life to killing the Zabis after killing his father. By him considering legacy, I was saying that his legacy was and always would be impacted by the violence of others. His father's name is literally used as the name of a colony dropping fascist state, his father's ideology is perverted to mean spacenoid elitism that demands earthnoid genocide. He even has to hide his name for a good part of Zeta just so the AEUG aren't associated with Char and, by extension, thought of as another Zeonic Remnants force: he instead waits until Dakar so he can clear the air as to their intentions after immediately revealing his name.
To say he doesn't care at all about his legacy/name is wrong, he clearly does care in the sense that everything his father had done was perverted into evil AND everything he did in Zeta and ZZ was either destroyed or became polluted by the feddies. Even Kamille, his surrogate son who he sees as a chance to leave behind something good for once, is mentally destroyed by Zeta.
By CCA he doesn't give a shit anymore and fully intends to die with Axis, because he thinks all his attempts failed and would rather try something insanely drastic. Either he'd succeed and force mankind to evolve into what he wanted, or (cont.)

>>23350655
>Char isn't trying to force everyone into space. He is quite literally trying to GENOCIDE the earthnoids.

>>23350765
>I'm aware of this, by force everyone into space I mean that his actions will force humanity to live in space. Not that he literally intends for everyone to leave the Earth first before dropping Axis: his actions are ultimately to make humanity a spacenoid people.

It's a bit of both. While casualties on Earth would be immense, whomever survives the Axis drop would find itself in an uninhabitable Earth, forcing them to migrate to space.

>>23350765
(cont.)
he'd instead fuck up Neo Zeon and put an end to him and his entire family and worldview being tied up in that bullshit. The dude is haunted by the ghost of Zeon (his suit is back to a red monoeye, he recreates Zeon and uses his father as justification, he even says he'll rejoin his father in his speech who is dead). Char very clearly cared about what he was doing with his life and about his father's legacy from an ideological and existential view, and his final act is a combination of suicide and a final desperate attempt to cement his Newtype-era worldview onto the Earth: if he doesn't do it now, his entire life would have been meaningless and mankind will never achieve a Newtype peace. If you consider that "bending humanity to his will" then you can, but I see it more as fighting for a goal beyond himself. Selfish, but not to the point you're taking it.
He's of course patently wrong, but I'm not arguing he's right/justified. Amuro is in the right for ending what does amount to Earthnoid genocide. My point is that it isn't accurate to say he's just a self-serving liar the entire time like Gihren, because he isn't and he clearly acts with purpose the entire time. He's a flawed character and also has personal motives for all of it, but he DOES believe in what he says.
>You're trying to ignore the literal psychic characters who can read each other's hearts
Scirocco literally constantly is fucking lying throughout the entirety of Zeta and gets several people including Newtypes killed. And Haman has had her more innocent Judau-like worldview entirely hammered out of her and cannot conceive of a peaceful solution. I don't think either of them are speaking truthfully as to the nature of Char in that scene, or even if so, whether that means all his beliefs are BS.
>He literally does pursue cyber newtypes
As tools of war, not the future of mankind. He rejects the latter in Zeta and his use of the former is proof of moral degradation by the point of CCA.

>>23350768
You're right in that it's a bit of both. And I don't deny that Char has selfish motivations, he's a man who obviously wants things to change and it is inherently selfish to change the world according to your worldview. He also clearly has personal motivations: his fight with Amuro is both a way to give Amuro's ideals a "fair shot" and also a way to settle their rivalry since the OYW and get back at him for killing Lalah and not joining the AEUG up in space. Both of them have fucked up over the years, both of them couldn't move on from Lalah and the war in their own way.

"Zeke Axe" is the greatest fucked up MTL for G-Quuuux there ever will be.

>>23349389
>this show does not follow my gaijin headcanon therefore they don't know what they're doing
kek. They don't even bother to bitch about the Hambrabi which actually makes no sense at all.

>>23349875
Char is always a flipflopping cunt, within the original fucking series he abandons his Zabi killing quest to work with Kycilia for his ideological cause then changes his mind and blows Kycilia's head off when it seems convenient. The whole point of this masked guy with four different names that TKs his best friend and spends as much time fighting his own former allies as anything is HE ISN'T TRUSTWORTHY. At all times in UC Char is a man of opportunity making the most of the current situation in relation to what he actually wants and adapting his facade to fit. (honestly we need some word of god what the fuck Char and Haman's actual problem is though, since Haman is just as untrustworthy as Char)

Challia just realizes (and you can take this from his extreme emotionally detached position on what to do with Lalah) there is no brakes on the Char-train to keep him from going to the same extreme as Kycilia if pushed so he's more of a risk than he's worth when they have someone else that can take over the role of leading Zeon.

>>23350863
>Siege Axe
The coolest fucking name you can imagine for a Gundam series

>GQuuuuuux
"Are you being stupid on purpose?"

>>23350781
>Both of them couldn't move on from Lalah
Amuro seems pretty over it by CCA. If anything, he seems annoyed with her more than anything.

>>23350768
>It's a bit of both. While casualties on Earth would be immense, whomever survives the Axis drop would find itself in an uninhabitable Earth, forcing them to migrate to space.
They say it'll cause a nuclear winter. it wouldn't in real life, but in the movie no one would be able to escape the earth after that.

>>23350897
Amuro was burdened by it in his own way. Whereas Char just felt anger and hurt from killing Lalah which impacted his ability to lead, Amuro was definitely haunted by her death and his burden of being a Newtype. He clearly mentions it in Zeta and it's basically the reason he hadn't been doing anything. We can extrapolate from this that it's also likely something that held him back from assuming a true leadership role in the AEUG and then Londo Bell. All we hear about him before CCA is that he's "fighting in space" in ZZ, but we don't even know where or when, and he isn't even there for any of the climactic fights.

He's definitely moved on more than Char by CCA, and really I feel that people overexaggerate how much Char held onto her because really he just mentions her as one final thing he never got over (and not the end-all be-all of his actions). But I don't think we're supposed to be happy for either Amuro or Char, the former's given up entirely on any sort of Newtype revolution and decided to simply wait and the latter has decided that it's such a lost cause that literally nuking Earth is the only option left. I'd argue that Amuro's less worse off but still certainly not in the best shape he could be.

>>23350945
>it wouldn't in real life
Why not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous–Paleogene_extinction_event#Effects_of_impact

>The re-entry of ejecta into Earth's atmosphere included a brief (hours-long) but intense pulse of infrared radiation, cooking exposed organisms.
>the impact would have created a dust cloud that blocked sunlight for up to a year, inhibiting photosynthesis
>According to models of the Hell Creek Formation, the onset of global darkness would have reached its maximum in only a few weeks and likely lasted upwards of 2 years.[192] Freezing temperatures probably lasted for at least three years.
>the sea surface temperature dropped as much as 7 °C (13 °F) for decades after the impact. It would take at least ten years for such aerosols to dissipate
>A paper in 2013 by a prominent modeler of nuclear winter suggested that, based on the amount of soot in the global debris layer, the entire terrestrial biosphere might have burned, implying a global soot-cloud blocking out the sun and creating an impact winter effect. If widespread fires occurred this would have exterminated the most vulnerable organisms that survived the period immediately after the impact.

The K-T impactor was 10 to 15 km wide. Axis is about 30 km and is being actively accelerated.

>>23350863
Nah. If he was simply flippant and opportunistic he'd just join Haman who was not only in the dominant position, not only had a gun to his head, she was practically begging him to come back.
He was always planning to kill Kycillia, he was jus waiting for an opportune moment, it's not like he jumped Garma with a knife the moment he saw him.

Remember, in Unicorn they describe Full Frontal as "a vessel that Zeeks pour their hopes into". I thought it was stupid at the time to be honest but GCuck uses similiar phrasing - that he's an empty person who fills himself completely with purpose so I thought about it a little more and I think that's actually pretty accurate, in the sense that he devotes himself entirely to what he perceives is his responsibility.
It's his responsibility to get justice for his father. It's his responsibility to fight for specenoids. It's his responsibility to bring about the age of newtypes.
He doesn't seek authority or power on his own, the power he gets is cast on him by others, Blex asks him to be the face of AEUG and the Zeon's old guard make him the leader of Neo Zeon, he responds to the expectations placed on him.
In CCA he says something like "It's Char Aznable's duty to enforce discipline" - it seems like a generic villain line but if you consider the above I thnk it's a bit more meaningful.
Another line always brought up is Lalah's "Char is pure", I think this is what it's referring to, Char is obviously a villain but he never did anything for personal gain, he does what is expected of him or at least what he perceives as such...

With one exception, that being obviously Lalah, who is that one little chink that he cannot let go not matter how hard he tries to devote himself to his mission. I still think Char being obsessed with fighting Amuro on equal terms is fucking stupid, he had no trouble admitting he's a weaker pilot and using a better machine to get an advantage in 0079. (cont)

>>23351104
(cont)
But I think it's interesting to note that the scenario he orchestrated in CCA is such that it didn't matter whether he won or lost against Amuro, the Axis was going to drop either way, until the magical space T happened, which neither side could've accounted for. My interpretation is that he was absolutely commited the drop and that was the main objective but he allowed himself that little personal leeway on the side for one last "REEE FUCK YOU AMURO" and he didn't really mind getting killed since his "duty" would be completed either way.

I'm probably in the minority, but I went to the theater hoping to see a new robot anime with a female protagonist.
Although I was disgusted and disappointed by the contents of the movie version, I changed my mind and started enjoying the TV version from episode 4 onwards, mainly speculating and imagining.
After I found out about the Nogizaka information, it became a noise and my distrust towards the staff that I already had exploded with a sudden attack from another dimension.
I can no longer enjoy the works I have been doing up until now by making fantasies and speculating on them in a positive way.
It's my fault for looking it up after seeing it online, but it's painful that I can no longer talk to my friend who I watch and discuss the show with every week.
What the hell is Nogizaka? Are you kidding me? The answer after analyzing the depiction was that it was from an idol the production staff recommended. What a terrible nightmare.
Please stop making jokes and making serious works instead of inserting outside jokes. I don't want to know about this.

>>23351104
To an extent that's just a nicer framing of the same thing. When I said "what he wants" I didn't mean crushing punjab pussy every night but rather you could make a list of Char's 3 priorities in life and the degree he pursues them is based on the circumstances he finds himself in. He has just as much reason to ally with Haman the way you put it as well because ultimately Haman's cause still includes those responsibilities, there's just a character conflict that makes him choose the AEUG which doesn't pursue them as hard.

This is where everything gets tricky because Tomino never ended up showing us why exactly Char and Haman hate each other (the most implication we get is that Char is perhaps over his Zabi hate boner and has a soft spot for Mineva while Haman will use anything but it's Char so you can't tell if he means it) and ZZ got pretty heavily rewritten when CCA was greenlit so instead of Haman vs Char civil war you get Glemy vs Haman possibly muddling Haman's character motivations, since what we have in the shows is Haman and Char literally trying to do the same thing.

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Yeah, it's a mess but ultimately we have to work with what he have.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that he changed his mind, that's it.
To be fair Haman didn't hide that her intention is to establish Zabi domination with herself as the de facto queen, using Mineva as a puppet, and Char obviously wouldn't be exactly on board with that, but he clearly isn't above working with people he hates to backstab them when an opportunity presents itself.