Is it just me or is the most utterly insulting asspull Gundam history?

Like the fucker juat gets BIG and then as if to shit in the viewers face that is used to UC at least bothering to hand wave things with plausible Minovsky magic, they have CHARACTERS SAY THAT NO IT ISNT AN ILLUSION, MOTHERFUCKER JUST TURNED THE RX-78-2 INTO A GODDAMN GIANT G-3 BECAUSE THE WRITER WANTS TO HIM

Its disappointing Gquuuuux went out like this. I was genuinely enjoying previous episodes

>omg this is so insulting!
>this cool scene? baffling! I can't even!!! like omg I'm literally shaking right now!!!!!
is /m/ slowly turning into tumblr or has it always been this way with new gundam shows

>>23352683
You're such a disingenuine cocksucker. No its not fucking cool to see a universe that liked to explain its mecha just toss that away to have LE EPIC VIDYA GAEM "DIS IS IT" MOMENT.

>>23352692
>LE EPIC VIDYA GAEM "DIS IS IT" MOMENT
what?

>>23352668 (OP)
Shuji is from/connected to Byston Wells and went Hyper; the Zeknova is connected to the Aura Road, which is how he summoned the Gundam.

>>23352668 (OP)
It's silly as fuck and honestly felt like one of those gag boss battles Gundam VS. It completely lost any grounding or sensibility the story had in favor of what is essentially a giant meta reference (literally) for the sake of one. The rule of cool can and indeed should only take you so far before things need to start making sense. It felt like they couldn't think of anything better to end it on, so they went with something they hoped would result in a whole lot of picrel (it did.)

One of the things Quuuuux made me realize is that why people always say Gundam fans have such low standards; this fanbase will literally applaud anything.

>>23352713
>>23352668 (OP)
>>23352692
Your soul is weighed down by gravity, I'm afraid

>star wars meme again
It's just two or three retards spamming the catalog complaining about the show.

>>23352713
its the same thing as the last rebuild movie. I think Anno is depressed and this is his way of lashing out

It's not that bad. It was only 12 episodes. Whatever. I've seen worse shit in 12 episodes.
Now shit like this 49 episodes in is what pisses me off. Short crap like GCucks gets a pass since I didn't waste my fucking time investment with it.

>>23352668 (OP)
>I was genuinely enjoying previous episodes
you were warned non stop. people knew the writing staff, they knew the studio, they could see the signs
by about the midpoint it became clear they had no plan and the pacing was fucked and it was already too late to shift the show in any interesting direction
what I find comical is how the people who defend this shit denied people who said they would need a magical asspull to conclude the show, and then after it happened they started instantly saying it was genius and always what they wanted like npcs receiving a software update

>>23352728
why cant you just admit that the fans of a mecha war show aren't fans of this shows writing or art style or themes. why would they be its not at all unexpected

>>23352713
>>23352783
dont blame him, hes just an angry washed up tard. blame the mouth breathers franticly trying to defend what he shits out

>>23352668 (OP)
>enjoying previous episodes
if the pokemon artstyle alone didn't turn you off take a long hard look in the mirror and then kill yourself

>>23352668 (OP)
pretending to be connected to the real UC and the implications of that connection are the single biggest insult in gundam history

>>23352668 (OP)
insulting? no. more like accidentally offensive. you wouldn't feel insulted if a retard said something inappropriate, or if a little child screamed about wetting the bed just awkward embarrassment

>>23352838
>pretending to be connected to the real UC
I don't think it pretends to be because it shows it isn't. Even time frozen Lalah is from a totally different continuuty where Char dies.

>>23352845
fair enough I just hate this modern writing convention that every incarnation of a franchise is literally playing out in parallel and with a wormhole or a glitch in reality characters could physically visit different ones

>>23352852
>this modern writing convention
Dude shut the fuck up, you are like 22.

>>23352855
>gux newfags lashing out
ah you love to see it, not even mild critiques allowed. how very mature and well balanced of you

>>23352720
>I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth I wanna go to earth
>uhhh if you dont like my favourite j-pop band youre uhh like uhhh not like what char wanted or something
fuck off back to /a/ tourist scum

>>23352855
He's not wrong. MCU made multiverse shit mainstream with copycats aplenty even though it's been a thing since well before then.

>>23352855
I recognize you as that handicapped spaz who rants and raves about how completely different series that are nothing like gundam have done it in the past so gquuuuuuux is off limits
absolute redditor shit I swear to god you just wanna mash everything together into slop so you can onions out over them showing up on screen together

>>23352855
it is modern though. its modern in the sense that big serious dramatic sci-fi movies and action blockbusters now rely on this as a core part of conflict resolution and the progression of the narrative moving forwards when in the past that would have been rightfully seen as an asspull and laughably bad writing
and no its not exclusive to the MCU either even modern trek pulls this shit

>>23352882
>big serious dramatic sci-fi movies and action blockbusters now rely on this as a core part of conflict resolution and the progression of the narrative moving forwards
Name 5 examples that aren't muh mahbel.

>>23352845
>>23352852
>>23352855
they definitely did pretend to be connected to the real UC from the point they dredged up the elmeth up until the last episode. They only stopped in the last episode with that remake of the Gelgoog+Elmeth vs Gundam fight where Char dies instead of Lalah. Vague mumblings from *a different universe's Lalah* about how she has a recurring nightmare of amuro killing char did not solidly establish this was an AU.

And why did they play the outro music from CCA if the "alt UC" characters all left their home universes well before CCA would have even happened? They had so many opportunities to have fun here, they could've brought in the Hi-Nu or Anno's rejected Nu design from the 80s in all fairness it was a terrible design but it would've made for a far better memberberry than giant RX-78-03 or something completely unexpected.

If the "UC" is going to be an AU that strongly resembles the UC why not run with this opportunity to play loose with canon and do something fun? That was supposed to be the whole premise of GQX anyways. People love a good alt-universe (in the usual scifi sense of the word not what gundam usually calls an AU) because the writers run wild with all sorts of crazy things they could never do in the mainstream UC, just look at the mirror universe in star trek.

>>23352694
You sincerely do not belong in this discussion if that makes you go what. You have zero aptitude to analyze and are clearly ready to defend flashing lights that made you happy at this point.

>>23352845
Its connected to the real UC in the sense it uses its background. Like you cannot use Amuro,the Gundam,Federation,Zeon,Minovsky particles and Newtypes all at once without the connection towards its greater lore and how that lore often goes beind made. Hell Chalia even calls out Char and says he feels like he will do the same thing as Kycilia

>>23352893
>disney consumes all media franchises
>puts multiverse shit in all of them
>y..yeah but name some that aren't from that media super giant
you reek of desperation

>>23352897
>>23352909
Autism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYgN2IGAWwk

>>23352897
rejected designs would have been both really interesting to see fully realized and help to remove it from stepping on the toes of original UC
alternatively just doing something fun and not taking itself too serious would help it stand apart from UC, no one was worried about the implications for future projects when characters showed up at the end of build fighters because the tone made it obvious we dont need to be worried about some hack writers coming in and fucking everything up

>>23352916
>it's not serious enough but actually it's too serious and that worries me
you are throwing shit at the wall at this point

>>23352668 (OP)
newfaggot zoomers never watched brain powerd or dunbine huh

>>23352834
>if the artstyle alone didnt turn you off
Is this toddler hour? Its fucking anime. The shit with the standard of big ass eyes and tits bigger than heads. Did you forget what the fucking mediun is you waste so much time on? Of course you didnt, youre being retarded on purpose.

>>23352914
T. The bad actor

>>23352922
yeah when a show doesn't realize how silly it is and tries to have impactful moments or serious payoffs it misses the mark this isn't hard to understand

>>23352922
>whats tonal whiplash
moron

>>23352927
you really gonna die on this hill? defending the pokeslop art style?

>>23352935
Youre a grown ass man on a grown ass imageboard at this point I say figure it out,bitch.

>>23352937
fucking embarrassing

I CLAPPED, I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT

>>23352939
Whatever (You) say ya waste of time

>>23352927
when you defend the character designs do you mean just not mind them or do you actually like them. do you even prefer them to the art of other gundam entries

>>23352668 (OP)
>somehow the rx78 returned
I fucking clapped
>but this time its a rx78 thats even bigger
I fucking cried tears of joy and came in my pants

>>23352933
>tonal whiplash
KEK

>>23352925
I've seen Brain Powerd and Dunbine but this show wasn't named Braaaaaaain Powerd or Duuuuuuunbine.

>>23352925
>its okay because something else did it
do you understand how retarded this is? oh probably not, retard.

The ending was a combination of themes you see in Utena and FLCL.
Shuji twisted overprotective love for Lalah is similar to Akio twisted love for Anthy, Shuji love in particular went "Beyond the Time", never ending mobius strip of killing her to clean her mess over and over since thats how its meant to go, thats what the gundam says has to be done.

Machu love for Shuji actually reached him however and broke this chain, hence Lalah's chains breaking apart after Shuji finally falls for Machu after her meta speech on Newtypes not needing to fall for the same cynical chain of fate they carry. Her song is literally "Beyond the Stars" an obvious parallel to Beyond the Time, which describes her love reaching Shuji no matter the distance. In essence Shuji is both Atomsk and a more positive Akio.

https://youtu.be/_dccug1YGVo

>>23352963
>>23352966
Why do you reply twice?

>>23352973
I know this easily could be edited so im not saying this to own you or be snarky but seriously
MEDS NOW
its okay to like a show the majority of people rip on its not that big of a deal there is no conspiracy against you

>>23352949
I dont care about the artstyle. Its not only anime its also GUNDAM. Thats why I called it toddler hour. Only some utter loveless brat would do something as extreme as drop a show they have a long history with over artstyle.

Besides me enjoying the parts before the final episodes prove he is just that much of a termially never leaving school loser that I truthfully hope he meets a real adult who shows him Guns and bloody crippling beatings exist outside of campus.

>>23352994
What the fuck are you even talking about.

>>23352994
hey man I didn't drop it even though I have some issues with it
I just dont really like it as much as other entries

>>23352994
at some point art impacts experience. I dont want to see a person with blob fish eyes doing the khara spaz run like its fucking loony tunes
yeah thats going to clash with the more serious and darker moments smarten the fuck up

>>23352999
That I hope you run into a nigger who shoots you. Is that simple enough language for you retard? If you are still asking questions you really do belong in school.

>>23352994
>Before the final episodes
Rather before the final battle. Watching Machu trash her life was comical that I wish couldve taken on a deeper angle,Nyans displays as a newtype were well done,Shuji vs the Gelgoog was a really cool fight, the not!titans segment was kinda weird but it made you think what else will they pull from future Gundams. Fun show until that stupid final battle and underwhelming conclusion where Machu and Nyan both are shafted.

>>23352897
>If the "UC" is going to be an AU that strongly resembles the UC why not run with this opportunity to play loose with canon and do something fun? That was supposed to be the whole premise of GQX anyways.
I'm a bit confused here by what you want because this is what GQux did. It's got OYW memberberries like diarrhea out the ass and even throws out a new Psycho Gundam MKII with jobber Gates from Zeta for shits and giggles.

Besides being a Dunbine reference, it's also a nod to the originally planned RX-78-2 that Tomino first attempted in the original Gundam before he was told to add more colors.
Also, it already stablished that there's "newtype magic" going on with zeknovas and Lalah creating new universes. A giant Gundam from the other side shouldn't be too crazy, all things considered.
The biggest mystery to me is who was Shuji and why was he able to fly like a space ghost but then be completely normal and not a ghost at the same time.

>>23353023
minty fresh

>>23353023
I do like how it's white with red eyes. Good "The White Devil" vibes. Still pretty goofy, though. I don't even understand why and how Shuuji summoned it.

>>23353023
>>23353030
Higher form of newtype power.
Like how lalah can create alt worlds.

>>23352838
Luckily the writers themselves say it's still a alternate U.C. reddit and consoomers are the ones pushing the "It's connected to main U.C. and Gcux has a piece of the Nu psychoframe from CCA in it!!1" shit

>>23352994
Meds.

>>23353018
>I'm a bit confused here by what you want because this is what GQux did

No it didnt. For starters we could have an Actual Civil war between Kycillia and Ghiren, the titans could have been established as the resurgent federation force, instead being some one of group of irrelevant jobbers. We could have had the rise and rebellion of Glemy's house against the Zabis, we could have had a Haman, NOT pissed of at char, leading a group insurgance seeking to take back Zeon from the Zabi's. We could have even had more out their stuff Zeon fight what would be the proto jupiter empire, or have crossbone vanguard be founded 30 years earlier. So much more could have been done with this timeline, anyone claiming Gquuuuux did more than enough has no real engagement with UC as a whole.

>>23353036
I do give them credit for that and I really do believe if qux was executed differently it could be a really interesting meta commentary on the nature of war and demonization between ideologies and factions but when you look at the way the qux defenders behave I lose all that good will

>>23353039
Give me your fanfic blog url

>>23353039
civil war with gihren focusing on insane superweapons and kycillia on the newtype core with a delicate balance forming between the two would be much more compelling than gqACKs

>>23352783
>>23352830
Why you retards keep bringing Anno? He has jackshit to do with this. Tsurumaki is the one in charge. Didn't you forgot how he did the same on Diebuster?

>>23353057
when I say anno its just shorthand for a number or things that are similar to what he makes or directly inspired
I dont literally mean anno, though that being said I do believe he could have trimmed the fat from the flashbacks he directed since this show is so reference heavy we dont need to see every detail the people who get it will get it without the same runtime and would free up precious minutes to alleviate the horrible pacing

>>23352897
>they definitely did pretend to be connected to the real UC from the point they dredged up the elmeth
In that chapter Lalah said that Char dies, so it's pretty clear that is not connected with the real UC

>>23353054
That's what we should have gotten bare mininum.

>>23353059
>When I said a thing I mean other thing.
Ah, gotcha. You are really stupid.

>>23353023
>Also, it already stablished that there's "newtype magic" going on with zeknovas and Lalah creating new universes.
Specifically Lalah is manipulating matter through Minovsky particles, that's how weird stuff like Char manifesting his Zeon uniform and the RX-78 turning giant happened. GQX runs under the assumption you've seen not just 0079, but the other Universal Century shows as well, so the viewer should know o7about Minovsky particle manipulation from Zeta, Axis Shock providing a miraculous amount of thrust to push Axis back into stable orbit in CCA, the Unicorn Gundam sprouting crystals, seemingly time traveling, and blocking the Gryps 2 colony laser blast in Unicorn, and Narrative all but stating that Newtypes wielding psychoframes are akin to physical gods.

Lalah is playing god, so virtually anything could happen.

>>23353062
Why? That sounds like a drag to show. There are a lot of Gundam series that spend 30+ chapters on mindless turf wars that involves like 5 different factions at the same time.

>>23352668 (OP)
At that point I was already disconnected because the show was clearly more interested in spamming memberberries than telling a coherent story. When the random kid with inexplicable time jannie powers magically made gundam go big I was in the "sure whatever" phase already.
The saddest part to me is that they didn't do even do anything cool with it. He squashes the useless character and get it's head chopped off. Could've been a proper raid boss if Char and Challia were allowed to participate but welp, apparently right in this moment, when their universe is about to be erased, Challia just had to eliminate Char because he might do something bad 10 years from now.

>>23352973
Is this legit the only response you could come up with

>>23353075
The only show to do that was G- reco, and G-reco had the issue of being a 50eps show condensed into half that length. 50eps should be the standard for any major gundam project. It gets proven time and time again that the runs need to be longer.

>>23353083
Anon is the visual message of a new gen of newtype decapitating the head of the OG gundam really not obvious to you

>>23353062
agreed
ps: ignore the fucking retard tourists spamming every thread who's fighting like his life is on the line for people to like anno slop (we never will go back to plebbit)

>>23353071
but every other anon here understands me.
so that would make you the dumb one.
time to go back to /a/ you silly guy. go back and fight about the blue haired girl or the ginger girl for another 30 years we dont need you here

>>23353103
What does that have to do with what I said? What even is your point?
Do you think that this is so compelling it cancels out all criticisms?
Not only was this done in 00 already, it rings especially hollow in this show where they felt the need to constantly remind you how iconic the original series was.

>>23353111
No, it means there are also another anon equally retarded as you.

>>23353138
If you think the final battle against the RX-78 was just to have a battle against the original Gundam you didn't understand the scene.

>>23352668 (OP)
wow cool robot

>>23353152
so if everyone here is a retard and youre the only sane one why dont you just move on?
why do you insist on arguing with people like me who all can speak the lingua franca and have no issues but you insist on the fact youre the only real gundam fan, just fuck off back to le hacking wholesome subreddit dude

Btw there was suppose to be a Kai and Miharu Ep

The one time they explore a "Zeon wins" outcome, they retcon the Gelgoog into GMgoog, and thus erase the Gelgoog Jager from existence.

>>23353103
The visual message is defeated by the show bending over backwards to reference the original Gundam every 120 seconds. And by Gundam itself having done a million things beyond the original show in the past 46 years. People trying to cobble together some "kill the past" message from GQuuuuuuX are genuinely retarded.
If you mean it's just new generation > old generation and not meta commentary then it's a retarded hackneyed way to go about it and a theme that's barely touched on for most of the show, and done much better in every other UC show.

>>23353155
You don't need to guess what I think, buddy, I explained what my issue is.
But do go on, have fun beating up that strawman.

>>23353083
>time jannie powers
ah FF7 got you too

>>23353275
Your issue is that you wanted the show to be something it wasn't, instead of take the metaphor that a new kind of Newtype that isn't beholden to the sins of the past has finally emerged. The battle ending with a decapitation isn't meant to show the RX-78-2 is dead, it's a Clan Battle victory condition. Amate Yuzuriha is the only Newtype Gundam pilot to end her series with her hands completely clean. Zero kills.

For a franchise that often espouses how Newtypes were meant to be the 'next step in human evolution' but are instead used as tools for war, she represents that true next step.

>>23353290
>Amate Yuzuriha is the only Newtype Gundam pilot to end her series with her hands completely clean. Zero kills.
Somehow this detail completely eluded me. Interesting.

>>23353290
>Your issue is that you wanted the show to be something it wasn't
I didn't say that. I said I didn't like choreography of the final fight and the scenario was contrived.
Not gonna respond to the rest since I didn't make the argument but I will admit I did forget about the clan battle rules. It's a nice touch and it slightly improves my view of the finale.

>>23352914
this is the board for mech autism, tourist
hope you enjoyed your stay but get the fuck out

>>23353290
>Amate Yuzuriha is the only Newtype Gundam pilot to end her series with her hands completely clean. Zero kills.
I like how you had to add all the qualifiers, since we had Loran who is a gundam pilot with no confirmed kills, Tifa from X who was newtype that explicitly refused to be used for combat on top of all the minor newtype characters that didn't engage in battle or OG Challia who got killed before killing anyone.

And I wonder how meaningful Machu's 'achievement' even is, you know, it's not like she seriously tested at any point in the story, she was never placed in a situation where she had to explicitly resist kill someone or be put in a kill or be killed situation and refuse.
She pointed the gun at the clan battle woman that one time but it wasn't a scenario where any non-villain character would resort to kill.

>>23353358
>Tifa from X
Tiffa'a not even a pilot to begin with. The fuck are you doing, if he's adding qualifiers?

>>23353371
Stripping the qualifiers? As I said?
"The ONLY newtype gundam pilot to do X" is a meaningless classification to me. Pretending they did something unheard of with Machu is dishonest or ignorant when we already had very similiar characters.
X in particular is explicitly about newtypes refusing to be tools of war.

>>23353394
Tifa doesn't count period because she's not a pilot. Your opinion doesnt hold any weight.

>>23353394
>ignorant when we already had very similiar characters.
>X in particular is explicitly about newtypes refusing to be tools of war.
X wasn't about that at all, X was about the aftermath of the war both sides arguing about who had the right to call thenselves new types and by what grounds. The point was that neither of them did it's all the same shit.

>>23352668 (OP)
It was dumb. Instead of growing larger, it should have transformed into the Nu, and finally into the Unicorn

>>23353405
Well she sat in a gundam so she counts around as much as Machu since GCuck pilots itself.

>>23353436
>Well she sat in a gundam so she counts
And by extention since want to go by Co pilot rules, she's killed as much as Garrod did.

>>23353422
>X wasn't about that at all,
You can argue that but it was more way interested in exploring that area of the setting than Gquuux.

>>23353440
So Machu killed as many people as Amuro? Okay.

>>23353444
>>23353444
>X wasn't about that at all
I don't have to argue it, that that was what the show was about. I dunno what is about Gundam X but lately the dumbest takes are coming from fans of X

>>23353448
Your the making claims, like saying Tiffa was gundam pilot.

>>23353461
X does more to explore the idea of newtypes breaking out of the status of killing machines than Gquuux does. I don't think that's subjective.
That is all I meant. I'm not gonna argue pointlessly, maybe I phrased it poorly.

>>23353466
You literally cannot read.

>>23353476
>X does more to explore the idea of newtypes breaking out of the status of killing machines than Gquuux does
Because that idea at all in the first place.

>>23353481
Isn't explored at all*

Who gives a shit about X? That show spends half its runtime with the shittiest most childish idea of romance with the most underbaked cast in all of gundam. If you are a kid I could see how that wouldn't be a problem but come on, X is not a high standard at all.

>>23353486
Apparently retards who think they can watch that as alternative to engaging with UC Gundam to understand Gundam.

>>23352668 (OP)
You not understanding the lousy pseudo science behind the phenomenon, doesn't make the moment bad.
Crying that "Newtype magic used to be believable" at this point is rather silly. Personally, I accepted it as something that got abnormal properties as soon as it crossed dimensions, like Elmeth.
Like really, if you want an actual explanation that badly you can always wait for inenvitable side materials about the setting, like blurbs in plamo manuals.

I enjoyed GQX but it does have a pretty big flaw- the show was supposed to be at least 24 episodes. We should have gotten way more clan bat and much more time to explore the split between machu and nyaan.


the battle with the gundam was supposed to be a conclusion to a lot of meta themes that were building up and a metaphor itself for how two different generations of the gundam fandom intersect.

>>23353394
>X in particular is explicitly about newtypes refusing to be tools of war.
>>23353422
>X wasn't about that at all,

It's Jamil's goal at the start, traveling around to gather newtypes so they aren't exploited again. Although the final message is that even he was blinded by the illusion of newtypes, and should have been working for a better world all along, rather than roaming around after Newtypes specifically.

>>23353513
>a metaphor itself for how two different generations of the gundam fandom intersect
No.

>>23353358
Loran had at least two kills, one of which was accidental

>>23353548
Loran also isnt a newtype.

you must be fun with the ladies

>>23353513
>the show was supposed to be at least 24 episodes.
Stop creating false scenarios on your head. Tsurumaki wanted less episodes not more. That is the reason why Anno came and wrote the OYW flashbacks.

>>23353427
They probably wanted their version of Nu to be the successor to the Sieg Axe and Red, a "gMS-v Black Gundam" if you would

>>23353648
>Black Gundam
Yeah, Titans colors are the coolest.

>>23353550
He psychically talks with the Aztec guy during their first encounter.

>>23353665
He's still not a newtype, they died out after victory.

Honestly all the fights in gqux were great and the final one wasn't the exception

>>23353676
That is even more stupid. Why something that is a human adaptation to live outside the Earth would become recesive when the humans finally live permanently on the outer space?

The AUs are more realistic than UC Gundam lol.

>>23353783
Colonies stopped being a thing in between victory and Turn A, so humanity never retained the newtype adaptations.

>>23353676
>they died out after victory

That's not what an asspull is. Please lurk for a few years before posting.

>>23354126
Yes it is. Whats your definition of an asspull, dumbfuck? Please share it with the class so I can again call you a dumbfuck. If you arent then your objection is as worthless as you.

>>23354133
Suletta shutting down the space laser through space magic, now that was an asspull.

>>23354133
The term asspull refers to a contrived plot twist (or, more loosely, convenience), not any sort of improbable or surprising happening whatsoever. The Gundam growing larger had no ultimate plot significance whatsoever, and it was not in contradiction to any established setting material. It was just dumb fun. Please lurk for a few years before posting.

>>23352668 (OP)
>Is it just me or is the most utterly insulting asspull Gundam history?
We just had the WFM ending

>>23354141
>the gundam growing into a giant had no ultimate plot significance
Did you miss Shuji getting his shit rocked before he did? Did you miss him having a chance at winning the encounter when he did? Thats plot significance.

Easy to tell that your definition of plot is messy and would likely shit on your entire viewpoint if you were to analyze that.

>>23354172
Fucking retard.

>>23352668 (OP)
>Is it just me
no. the shows terrible in all aspects

>the most utterly insulting asspull Gundam history
>Gets defeated by the open-mouthed GQuacks, they've been building up to all season.
Not really, no.

>>23354185
>open-mouthed GQuacks
you say that like it isn't fucking hysterical and insulting. prognosis: terminal evabrain

>>23354187
Your angybaby take is noted and ignored.

>>23353550
He is actually.

Loran is a browntype.

>>23354193
admit you aren't a real robot fan and go enjoy annoslop on /a/ where you belong

>>23354177
Not even a "thanks for proving me wrong" eh. Next time dumbfuck dont try to assign definitions to internet critcisim lingo. I knew you were too mentally fucked up to accomplish the task anyway though so thanks for proving me right.

>>23354187
>I stood up and clapped when the gundam got angry and grimaced like an edgy teenager
lmao even

>Stupid ass true scotsman arguments
So this is the power of sieg axe haters

>>23354212
damn imagine if the show looked that good rather than pokeslop

>>23354217
No one ever does this for any other artist, no one has ever said the characters in Brain Powerd looked like Tales of slop. Truth is, Take is actually an extremely talented character designer, and her designs in Gqacks are completely different than most of her Pokemon designs, but because people recognize the style, the character designs will never be judged on their own merit and will forever be written off as "pokeslop" despite their quality. If anything, Gundam AGE is closer to looking like Pokeslop designs than Gquacks ever was.

>>23354231
sure hes talented and has a distinct style but its a style he used to design characters for a cute children's game. when every character looks bubbly and immature and dressed up like a Paris fashion shows take on military uniforms it impacts how serious I can take the plot and the world

>>23354245
>when every character looks bubbly and immature and dressed up like a Paris fashion shows take on military uniforms it impacts how serious I can take the plot and the world
Welcome to most anime in general

>>23354245
>when every character looks bubbly and immature and dressed up like a Paris fashion shows take on military uniforms
But enough about G, Wing, Zeta, ZZ, and Hirai in general.

>>23354252
all sci-fi has exaggerated villains and weird looking uniforms and all anime takes liberties with characters faces and physical proportions but I personally think gux is too childish and too flat looking
also they have lighter coloured pupils for some reason they look like androids

>>23354260
the more novel and alien the space nazi costumes the better. challia looks a lot gayer than anyone from ZZ

>>23354263
>challia looks a lot gayer than anyone from ZZ
And that's a good thing!

>>23354273
gross... now the WfM hatred makes sense

>>23354273
>quxtard spastics are just catty faggots lashing out
color me not that surprised

>the gay man looks gay
This is the intellect of gqux haters.

>>23354275
>>23354286
I don't get it... Charmuro has been a thing for ages. Where is this sudden aggression coming from?

I'm most pissed off that they didn't go all the wat and have char fight the gundam.

>>23354298
The retards nitpicking the show are self admitted /a/ tourists, it only started once the /a/ threads picked up steam after the hack.

>>23354298
>>23354304
so youre all fags? amazing, you cant make this shit up

>>23354298
homos are like furries or trannies they just insert themselves into everything and make it about their degenerate lifestyle because theyre the most vapid "humans" alive

I get that the whole purpose of this show is to point at the screen and shout “I get that reference!” but throwing a Dunbine thing in the final battle just seems so random. Everything else this show steals like char shooting kycilia is from the old gundam shows.

>>23354319
You honestly don't think it's some sort of metaphorical imagery?

>>23354332
The curtains are blue because the author thinks blue curtains look cool.

>>23354332
so it gets the NGE treatment and you pseuds pretend its high art for 3 decades

>>23354332
The show needs to be better for me to care about whatever imagery it’s using.

>>23352949
The character design is an 11/10 and superior to 99% of anime artstyles out there. It's simplicity and dynamic energy is outstanding.
If you think it's in any way bad then you simply have no knowledge of animation and no sense of aesthetics or are too preoccupied with a perceived threat to your masculinity.

>>23354300
A giant Red Gundam fighting the Big Grandpa Gundam would have been funny.
>>23354319
What Dunbine thing?

>>23354366
sure why not make everything look like looney tunes, its iconic and kinetic and has such energy in its simplistic expressive designs
maybe because not every series needs to have goofy squash and stretch khara animation thats so removed from anything seen in reality to takes away from what should have been a realistic near future sci fi series about the aftermath of a war that killed half of humanity

>>23354372
>What Dunbine thing?
https://x.com/Petsuchan/status/1939008877661741145

>>23354366
dark gym trainer looking ass 0/10
did qux ever explain when exactly humans evolved from cats lmao

>>23354378
Even if I'd watched Dunbine I wouldn't have clocked that as a reference. But it is a Tomino show so it was probably intended as such.

>>23354375
Gqux isn't a realistic sci-fi anime about the aftermath of war that killed half of humanity.
It's about a teenage girl's journey of self discovery.

>>23354401
Be real. Bitch gets sidelined in her own show. She has 0 growth

>>23354378
>>23354391
Huh. I didn't remember the white lighting sparks in Dunbine. I thought people were stretching, but it definitely seems like a reference to hyper mode, although probably not that clip specifically.

>>23354415
Dumb speedwatcher
>>23354391
Watch more mecha, crossboarder faggot

>>23354401
she has no growth as a character but thats fine anon, I get the show isn't for me I just want qux fans to be honest about what the show is

>>23354545
If qux fans were honest about what the show is what’s there to even like about it? It’s just waifufags crossboarding from /a/

>>23354597
this

>>23354401
But she didn’t discover anything

>>23354366
Yep I’m with you. Calling it “pokemon” isn’t a legitimate criticism, the girls are hot and the designs are unique

>>23354635
>the girls are hot
nyaan maybe deux and machu no way, cute at best

>>23354401
not a valid defence.
machu never discovered anything and had paper thin motivations.

>>23354366
>gay baby artstyle is now 11/10
its over

>>23354597
>what the show is
Watch it and find out.

>>23354747
You first

>>23354747
>whats the show
great argument anon really shows you totally did watch it and aren't just some tourist gooning to the cast

>no u
Great thread guys, I seriously hope you won't keep this act for too long.

>>23354366
Hideous, looks like a western cartoon

>>23354823
Try harder

Don’t act so indignant when you had nothing of substance to contribute to the thread anyway

>>23354833
The artist is garbage in nupokemon too

>>23354833
yes, he should

>>23354366
grown ass men defending this shit. never thought id see the day

>>23354894
The hot anime baddies make my pp hard. That’s good enough reason for me to like them. Any questions?

>>23354894
You seem insecure about something.

>>23352713
I didnt applaud, I was laughing the entire time. Its ridiculously stupid and the only thing keeping Gundam together is old redguards that love the series and also Tomino still being in this world.

>>23354911
>androgynous, deformed and ulgy is GOOD acshully, it makes it feel realistic to the new generation

>>23354925

>>23354922
I almost want tomino to come back just because of how shit the past 10-15 years has been for gundam, but then I remember g-reco was also pretty ass so I think he might be cooked.

>>23354946
We all know the 26 episode format held him back massively and he only requested it to be that long because he is too old to do a 50 episode series.

>>23354909
but they aren't hot anon, theyre closer to teddybears than human women
>>23354911
>trannime is actually good youre just insecure
nope, im just not a homosexual who wants an androgynous femboy with giant hands or a bob cut midget as my protags

/m/ is a bloated corpse being poked by a stick by retarded teenagers at this point just delete it most. Gas it. Colony drop it. Send out the bugs.

>zoomers think moeblobs are the pinnacle of the female form

Khara never cared about their timeline. Well Anno sort of did apparently but Tsurumaki and Enkoido wasted that. Usually it's the producer who fucks up instead.
At least Anno told them that Kai and Miharu shouldn't appear together(they only met because of white base). Of course they replaced Kai and Miharu with Lalah so I wonder what the original plan was for the ending.
It is nice to know that Woody and Maltida are happily married because that isn't contrived.

>>23355187
imagine defending this show when even the creators didnt give a fuck

>>23355197
I'm not. I dislike this show. I think many people did want a real Zeon wins timeline but apparently they can only win thanks to Beyond the time or whatever.

>>23355205
Yeah this show was a real monkeys paw for any UC Alt.

>>23355207
I knew from the moment I saw the first trailers that theyre hearts and minds were in the wrong place.

It really is just ESLs hating on this show.

>>23355205
its such an insult to what the UC represents. sure specific pilots or suits can shift a battle but the idea that the entire war and every conflict after it comes down to if char stole a gundam or not, because this would later cause him to explode into a purple cloud and neutralize an asteroid attack is fucking laughably absurd. the earth federation continued the war because zeon had exhausted so many of its limited resources. and even with earths space navy fucked the next generation of earth designs and the insane production capacity would win unless zeon pulled off more colony drops which they wouldn't do out of fear of existing icmbs and space launch vehicles nuking the shit out of them

people wonder why there's so much criticism of the art style, or the music, or the level of freedom in the animation, or the specifics of the characters when on their own each of these things isn't the worst even if its not my style
the problem is its death by 1000 cuts and really out of place for a show that built up hype by promoting a zeon won alternate history of the UC

>>23355232
The entire alt OYW reminds me alot of the bullshit people pull to write 'japan wins ww2' scenarios. It must have been cathartic for anno to write given his not so subtle nationalist tendencies.

>>23354911
>inhuman lgbt aids patient designs for the modern audience

>>23355261
as people have pointed out many times the obsession with super weapons and the infighting between factions in zeons military have obvious parallels to the Second World War so it would be nice to have gqux actually show what would have needed to change in order to make zeon more effective in capitalizing off operation British
its not like there's a shortage of material to draw from when it comes to ww2 speculation

>>23355261
Even down to keeping Yamamoto alive through magic bullshit. Honestly I think that's part of why I don't really care to learn more about this timeline than I already did, in addition to the alt UC being an excuse for metashit I just do not find the alt history of Zeon winning the war very compelling. At least in Gihren's Greed the Zeek victory ending has some fun stuff like Kai and Miharu getting together or Space Hitler building a heroic statue of himself. GQuuuuuuX doesn't have that, the whole Zeom civil war thing is such a forgone conclusion I don't care to speculate about it. The only part of it that caught me by surprise was Char killing Kycilia. But at least Zeon wasn't quite as catastrophically fucked as Imperial Japan was in WW2.

I think I just kinda fucking hate Zeon and everything it represents in and out of universe. So to me all the complaints about the alt-timeline not being devloped doesn't bother me. I don't give a shit about this universe on a wider scale. Luv me Zaku, still 'ate Zeeks, simple as.

>>23355243
I do not care about the tone if g gundam had this art style it would be just as shit despite not being a war drama

>>23355232
I think gundam getting successfully stolen is a perfectly viable justification for Zeon to win - Feddies don't get White Base, don't get GMs, Zeon gets access to MS-viable beam weapons faster and shifts their RND on gundam instead of wasting money building shit like Zakrello - and even with all that, Zeon was still about to lose until Zeon was able to roll out newtype weapons that allowed them to do Loum 2.0 and wreck entire fleets like shooting fish in a barrel.
If we ignore the reality warping shit, that course of events worked to me.

>>23355313
thats what I mean though anon. I want to see zeon focusing on mass production of a single design and how it preforms during its first deployment. I wanted to see the federation scrambling to turn existing prototypes into mass production suits and equip ships that weren't purpose build like the white base with them. I wanted to see all of that stuff and the internal politics and procurement of zeon as well as how it goes about occupying the earth

>>23355323
yeah you're not getting that with studio khara, they don't do that

>>23355323
I dont think this is the only way to do a zeon wins AH
zeons won now what? what does it mean post war? how do our new characters navigate the world dominated by an orbital government? how does zeonist ideologues vs the zabi loyalists vs the spiritual and empathetic newtype play out in a fascist dictatorship
at the risk of being called a spammer by the schizos ill say it again: one main character who steals a gundam (from insurgents and not a clan battle team) being noticed by zeon as early as episode 1 machu or nyaan doesn't matter keep Xavier as their foil and let a war vet teach them about what newtypeism is

>>23354911
ngl, shuuji is super tasty, basically a girl! Krekk0v is god for making porn of him.

god forbid the animators have a little fun with their painstaking project they put their blood sweat and tears into OP

>>23355323
>>23355367
Sounds like you wanted an entirely different show.
Even just watching the first trailer it was clear that the tone wouldn't be about any of that.

>>23355423
Wasn't very fun to look at so their fun is gay and retarded I think actually.

.

>>23355423
Retarded argument. You can justify literally anything with this kind of reasoning.
>gundam has a mahou shoujo transormation, sprouts a massive spiky dildo and starts fucking Elmeth's engine hole
>OH MY GOD IT'S JUST ANIMATORS ENJOYING THEMSELVES WHY DO YOU HAET FUN? >:(

The concept that criticisms against this show get shot down by using statements like "you are a tourist", "you are a fake fan", "you dislike fun", "you are just an oldtype", "your soul is weighted by gravity you wouldn't get it", "Japan likes the show it's not made for you", "Tsurumaki said this in an interview...",... kinda scares me
I'm neutral on it by the way. It's ok

>>23355625
Didn't forget the bot accusations.

Damn not beating the bot allegations lmao.

>>23355625
Don't overthink and just enjoy the fanservice and references.

>>23355599
>>gundam has a mahou shoujo transormation, sprouts a massive spiky dildo and starts fucking Elmeth's engine hole
except that didn't happen and the plan for literally years was to have them fight RX-78 and for it to become hyper like an Aura Battler since the beginning
and it looked fucking cool, and it's not even the most absurd thing that a final big bad Gundam has even done.

>>23352692
It came from Beyond the Time, anon. It's not constrained by the universe's rules.

>>23352852
Well get used to it, because it's true. That "writing convention" is soft disclosure/perception priming/predictive programming. The Elites who rule is are multiversal. Their dominance arises from a combination of using information and materials from other universes as well as timeline hopping/manipulation to arrive at ideal worldlines for their purposes.

When their secret is finally revealed, the masses will basedface and say "just like Marvel! They're like teh Avengers!" instead of rising against them in anger. While they could user their multiversal abilities to quell such a rebellion there is the nonzero chance of the masses gaining access to the tech and interfering with their plans of multiversal domination.

>People criticized AGE for having a video game final boss where SID just flies in and merges with Vegan Gear for no reason
>But this shit is fine

>>23353052
Nigger you're on /m/, just browse through the archive. Anons in this board have been putting out better and more interesting stories than whatever this garbage was.

>>23353486
>talks shit about the completely genuine romance between two young people presented in X
>while unironically defending Gquacks

God, this board used to bully faggots like you into never posting again.

>>23355793
Sorry that X sucks balls

>>23355736
>the plan for literally years
And Chris-chan worked on Sonichu for decades, doesn't make it automatically good.
>to become hyper like an Aura Battler
Being reference doesn't make it good.
>and it looked fucking cool
Nah it looked retarded.
>not even the most absurd thing that a final big bad Gundam has even done.
Devil gundam makes more sense within the context of G than Rx-78 magically becoming gigantic in UC.

>>23355800
I don't like X but GCucks makes it look like a masterpiece.

>>23352897
Ever since the Lalah episode they had already stated Char always dies in the OYW to the Gundam and the Gquuuuux world was the only exception. So, as soon as they confirmed an actual other side, it was also clear it couldn't be actual UC.

>>23355736
I think them resorting to make the RX-78-2 go big and giant as a aura battler reference because they couldn't figure out how to make it look threatening speaks more on their lack of ability to direct imo.

>>23355748
>>23355793
>>23355817
Fuck off lmao.

>>23355817
this is how ive felt about a lot of series I didnt initially like as they aired.
qACKs and its retarded tranny fanbase have made me realize how good we've had it up until now kek

>>23355423
>but they had so much fun making it
isn't this the same line they use to defend modern western shitty media from criticism?

>>23355871
>>23355921
Go back to /a/ tourist.

But this was like my heckin EVA
HAHA KUMM SOSSER TOD

>>23355517
>fanbase of redditors and literal evafags
truly they are bringing gundam into the modern age

>>23355985
>>23356076
Bot hours.

>>23355933
>>23356078
kill yourself

>>23355933
>>23356078
>literal npc brain calling people bots
hey I know a perfect place for you its got usernames and you can even hecking downvote anyone who doesn't like your shitty show

>>23356080
>>23356081
Bot response.

>>23355866
>>23356078
>>23356083
Bot response

>>23355205
>Beyond the time or whatever
ah yes the song that very explicitly refers to changing ones future and destiny is not justification to retroactively go back in time through the multiverse and nullify existing events
bravo anno

I'm 90% sure this scene was mocking the people who made fun of the terrible animation in 0079

>>23355768
I've personally never had any problem with "video game" final bosses, if people stopped looking at this as a grim derp serious UC story and realized it was literally supposed to be like a dream influenced by FLCL, Diebuster, Evangelion, and various Tomino works, then they would be harsh on it.
>>23355816
>Rx-78 magically becoming gigantic in UC.
The whole story is magic, going hyper isn't honestly that big a deal

>>23356568
No it's because they ran out of ideas to make the RX78 fearsome, Tsurumaki admitted it in an interview

>>23355816
>magically becoming gigantic
newtypes have always pulled bullshit out of their ass. Remember when Kamille magically was able to manifest a stand to punch through an I-field? Amuro suddenly using the force to conjure the lifestream to destroy Axis?

>>23356577
They had one idea and scrapped it because it was already used, you would've bitched and moaned if they went with the other one anyway, going hyper made sense

>>23356586
Both ideas were bad, yeah. To be frank the entire premise of Okawara Gundam being the final enemy was stupid
>>23356578
Did you even watch CCA? That wasn't what happened

>>23356623
It's been a week, how long are you going to seethe about it?

>>23354366
Pokémon fags will consume any slop they're given, Christ alive.

>>23354635
Made by the literal artist for human characters in Pokémon, dumbfuck retard. Calling them hot is a sign of mental illness too.

>>23356636
>Y-You can't critique the show because it's been a week

Do you even know the board you're on? Go back tourist.

>>23356640
>>23356645
Bot posts.

>>23356658
Bot post

>>23352668 (OP)
According to an interview with Tsurumaki, this happened because, no joke, "someone suggested it to make a Dunbine reference and no one there had a better idea".

>>23356728
There's no fucking way this is true.even Khara isn't this retarded.

>>23356733
https://x.com/battleupsaber/status/1939093397387780543

>>23356728
Japan jerking itself off with its referential content was abound to catch up with itself one day or another.

>>23356728
Yeah, checks out. Most of this plot is just "Fuck it, reference something else."

>>23356728
And if I read it right the alternative that they forwent was F91-esque transformation.
There's not an ounce of originality left in Khara.

>>23356760
Has it ever had any? 90% of their catalog are Eva movies which got progressively worse, half of which were just making tweaks to and condensing the original series, and Movies of preexisting franchises that had decades of source material to work off of.
All of their work has been half done for them from the get go. They've never had their own foundation to begin with.

>we have gone from Anno haters, to Gainax haters and now Khara haters

>>23356738
Of fucking course, I don't know why I had any doubts.

People whining about Tomino when the FLCL/Diebuster person is responsible for most of the writing. Guess we hate them now. Gotta keep up the hate train, after all.

>>23356747
>>23356750
>>23356760
>>23356769
You people are fucking miserable, holy shit.

>>23356760
>And if I read it right the alternative that they forwent was F91-esque transformation.
Have you even watched F91? I don't see how you'd mix up F91's after-images with the Gundam multiplying.

>>23356814
I liked the Shin movies and felt like Anno did good by them, but I'm not going to disagree with a noticeable pattern here when it comes to Khara not having a single good idea of their own.

>>23356842
>CONSUME THE SLOP

I'll pass.

Perhaps FLCL being good was a complete accident all along

>zoomer revisionists are going to pretend flcl is bad

>>23356888
Diebuster was

>>23356728
>>23356733
>>23356747
>>23356750
>>23356760
>Board that literally sucks off Super Robot Wars
>Grrrrrr reference BAAAAAD
What the fuck is with this double standards crap? Mecha as an entire genre has been referencing countless other mecha shows since fucking forever, it's also quite literally just one small aspect of the show that is getting so much shit

>>23356814
I'm probably one of the biggest Shin Kamen Rider defenders on this board but this show's ending is just too half-hearted.

>>23356898
>just one small aspect
Lmao

>>23356898
>>Board that literally sucks off Super Robot Wars
Did you just assume this or something? I haven't seen /m/ have a positive consensus on a SRW title since like Z1.

>>23356888
>Revisionist
FLCL was never good in the first place lmao

>>23356898
The writing in Super Robot Wars is above and beyond the writing Gquacks. Oh also forgot to mention it's a CROSSOVER VIDEOGAME.

>>23356891
>>23356915
Like clockwork.

>>23356915
Gquacks is basically a crossover show, it's khara x sunrise

Wtf... Tomino just referenced another show... Was he out of ideas?

>>23356934
What a fucking hack, and don't even get me started on how 4 of his biggest shows are just Yamato clones.

>>23356898
I've never even touched SRW you dumb nigger. You don't get the right to assume shit just because everyone assumes you're a flaming faggot.

>>23356959
>I'm a tourist and proud

>>23356934
If the Turn-X turned into a giant RX-78-2 while Gym shouted AURAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'd call the finale for Turn-A a hackjob too but at least it didn't have a bunch of charisma voids for main characters

>>23356982
>at least it didn't have a bunch of charisma voids for main characters
but enough about gbitch

>>23356999
Along side the extra episode cope and the "Its bad on purpose" or "it isn't made for you" copes this twitch deflection seems to be one of the most popular "arguments" for defending how much Gcucks sucks. It doesn't really work when someone hates both of these terrible shows though

>nooooo stop mocking the redditors theyre gonna scream and grimace like Eva unit 1 and its gonna be sooooo fucking cool and edgy and then everyone will die

>>23356911
its autism it explains all his irrational spastic behaviour and why he sees the world as so black and white
>>23357013
"realistically written women are useless bitches who cry and fight all day" is a fantastic cope
if thats they case why dont these faggots fuck off and just watch real housewives, leave mecha for actual fans

>>23353057
Fuck off Diebuster was great.

>>23356568
we have interviews with the cast and production staff, you guys are reading into shit because you want to defend this mid to low tier gundam show so badly.
just like what you like but dont be such fucking clowns

>>23356578
>missteps that compound on missteps are actually good and above criticism
lmao no.

>>23357048
my dude, I was making a joke. I thought the show was mid AT BEST.

>>23357051
you misunderstood. I've always hated the newtype bullshit and I think it's always been fucking dumb.

I'm just saying this dumb shit is nothing new for gundam.

>>23357053
meant to say these guys brain is fried

>>23354401
She didn’t discover anything.

>>23356882
perhaps Eva being (((good))) was retard injecting their own head cannon all along

>>23357039
>leave mecha for actual fans
who would those be, you and your other two /a/ friends that haven't seen a single /m/ show? lmao

>>23357071
so youre still coping that everyone here secretly loves it
interesting, maybe one day you'll convince yourself its true

>>23352683
>meta-narrative slop
>meta-narrative slop, japan

>>23356842
because we dont like one piece of shit? nah.

>>23357081
>>23357093
>>23357097
Bot posts.

>>23356999
>Complaining about Turn A
>Person addresses complaint
>Deflection to G-Witch out of nowhere

>>23357112
they are tourists. its why they accuse everyone else of it so much. all they know is that these shows are apparently not liked by /m/ so they deflect to talking about them rather than actually try to defend their moeslop

>>23357129
>they are tourists. its why they accuse everyone else of it so much
Ironic.

The references in Turn A had the purpose of fleshing out certain characters like Gym and Corin, and alluding to the backdrop of the Black History and the cyclical nature of mankind.
The references in Gbitch and Gcucks are there to send a dose of dopamine in jaded gunota brains to remind them of when they watched a better Gundam show when they were younger, and to let the newer seasonal anime watching weeb who hasn't watched any show more than 5 years old feel like now they've "consumed" a greater part of an old franchise without actually having to watch the old icky series themselves

>>23356728
Why did they even need to throw in another half assed reference? Would have been just fine if it was a normal mobile suit battle with okawara gundam. Just because it’s the final battle doesn’t mean it has to be an ebic out of this world kind of thing.

>>23357141
because that's what they did in the past and they're gonna copy that, no matter what

>>23357134
not really

>>23357141
The wierd thing is they pretty much accomplished the concept of making a single mobile suit seem intimidating with Shiiko's fight, where she outmatched the protagonist with the cable being the only special equipment she used. But come the finale they were completely stumped. Come to think of it it's especially silly how they had to rely on hyper mode when in MSG Amuro already piloted the Gundam in impressive or intimidating ways and they could easily justify Shuji being able to make the same manouvers by saying he's done to countless universes

>>23356842
you hate literally everything that doesn't have your new favourite moeblob bitches in it. you pretend to be fans and shit on everything when people mention why they like it more than qacks
the only miserable one here is you

>>23352973
>retarded logic gets completely shit on
>"uuuuh... samefag-san....."
fucking lol

>>23355313
>no white base to make ships even though they never mads produced white base in oyw
>stolen gundam means no gms even though the ground type gundam and gms already existed in july and were produced without the learning computer data
>zeon shifts to mass producing the gundam instead of other ms and ma, except they still make the dom, gyan, big zam, braw bro etc, even mass producing most of these unlike in normal uc, wasting even more resources
The only thing that changes would be both sides having mobile suit beam weapons.

>>23357147
>>23357150
>>23357154
>>23357156
These posts? Bots.

>>23353083
>Could've been a proper raid boss if Char and Challia were allowed to participate but welp, apparently right in this moment, when their universe is about to be erased, Challia just had to eliminate Char because he might do something bad 10 years from now.
idk why but this part really rubbed my autism the wrong way. After all the shit that happened, and was still happening, Challia just fucking goes "erm I think you're bad Char lets fight" just because the writers needed some sort of fucking stupid ass finale fight and then to top it off they just had to ass-pull a Final Shooting reference like seriously fuck off with that.

I get the feeling that a lot of this thread is the same guy throwing the most extreme arguments from either end of a spectrum at himself to get mad at nothing while people with various opinions have to have a discussion circumventing him.

>>23357170
Remember when this scene was in the Unicorn novel but they cut it out of the animated adaptation because it'd be too much?

>>23357140
Extremely disingenuous, the references obviously served a similar purpose, narrative, not the same way as Turn A, of course, but all of this comes across like "it's okay when Tomino does it"
I actually feel like the giant RX-78 being the final boss of Gquacks in a way was to allude to how people perceive it and the original creator's authority, and trying to stamp out anything else.

>>23356898
super robot wars doesn't claim to be the true events that happened during / created the world of UC. super robot wars has gameplay. super robot wars exists as an excuse to let people play around as those characters thats the fun, super robot wars uses the different mechs to explore and engage with game mechanics
are you actually so disabled you dont get that a video game and an anime are totally different mediums and must immerse and reward the watcher/player in different ways
I honestly believe you are handicapped and this is why you just spam threads and lash out constantly, or maybe just some pre-teen who recently watched NGE

>>23357182
wtf do you mean too much

they rewrote the ending for the animated version to add neo zeong, the psychoshard, the time travel sequence

>>23352668 (OP)
Didn't Jewdough reassemble the ZZ with was basically the Force? And then the Axis Shock. It's always been like this since at least ZZ, maybe even Z.

>>23357314
The giant RX-78 being the final boss of GQuuuuuuX doesn't mean anything. It's big because it happened in Dunbine.

>>23357592
Moving stuff around is way different than growing your robot into a bigger one. It is absolutely not the same. Theres psychic crap which is what Amuro,Judau and Kamille have all done which can be understandably explained with Newtype will vs the environment and then theres the downright batshit first ever seen phenomenom of a Newtype turning silver into gold,following none of the previous logic Newtypes have had because he just can.

>>23357841
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AToMMor9cgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzAVaCtn6uo

>>23358379
Is there a point to you raw dog posting those? I already said Kamille was understandably Newtype will vs the environment. Minovsky particles are part of the environment,which is what allows him to gigamaxx charge his saber and make a on the fly Ifield.

Bananger,as much I dont care for Unicorn isnt strictly that, follows the same logic of Newtype will vs environment with the time travel bullshit and time travel itself isnt that much of a stretch given how Newtype abilities can be connected to prerecognition.
Shuji changing the entire damn Gundam into an even greater technological construct in comparison is, absolute garbage gary stu bullshit and you are retarded trying to defend it.