What went wrong?

How come Duke Fleed gets the shaft every time he appears? We know Koji is the heart and soul of the Mazinger franchise. But you don't see Tetsuya get this kind of treatment.

>>23363010 (OP)
That's kinda the issue, he's not allowed to stand on his own.

>>23363010 (OP)
>We know Koji is the heart and soul of the Mazinger franchise. But you don't see Tetsuya get this kind of treatment.

Huh? Tetsuya fans were often complaining about that?

Duke Fleed's fans complain more about him just not showing up.

>>23363010 (OP)
>But you don't see Tetsuya get this kind of treatment.

We don't?

>>23363023
Personally I've had it up to here with both of them. If it's not the one complaining that their secondary character isn't the main it's the other

>>23363046
Let's doesn't he job in the Kaiser OVA and movie? In the former's case at least until he gets Shin Great.

>>23363010 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Grendizer U was too short with too many ideas.
>How come Duke Fleed gets the shaft every time he appears?
Him and Tetsuya have the issue of being secondary MC to the main man Kouji in many eyes. To make matters worse for Great and Grendizer fans it takes years for them to get anime remakes of there shows (hell Great still doesn't have one) and often can be left out of SRW if not in the version of Mazinger they are using (happens to Duke a lot but will happen to Tetusya again because Grendizer U doesn't have him in it).

>>23363058
>Grendizer U was too short with too many ideas.
Frankly I feel like it didn't have enough ideas and instead tried to draw out the one it did have.

In the end, Tetsuya won hard.

>>23363062
Yeah, I admit that storyline dragged on too long. Anyway, I still wish we got more on the backstory for this Grendizer instead of U mostly just leaving it in the dark for the SRW writers to use someday. Along with learning more about U Emperor Vega himself, because for some reason that guy was being treated as their otherworldly force of evil.

Nobody else remembers me.

>>23363267
It felt more like season 2 set up, only they didn't do well enough to get a season 2. The Grendizer related ruins on Earth are never explained and the last two episodes had Hell's forces getting Vegan tech and King Vega himself showing up for the last shot, even if it was in the distance rather than a direct cliffhanger with him attacking Earth.

Obviously SRW can use all that, but it feels more like it was stuff they left there for a season 2 they didn't get.

>>23363010 (OP)
Duke/Grendizer deserves an Infinity style movie, just to end it.

>>23363313
It got a french comic. Go read that.

>>23363274
Damn, when did garrod meet a princess?

>>23363010 (OP)
There’s enough going on in Mazinger with just Great’s cast, Grendizer should have been it’s own setting.

>>23363048
I just like talking about how cool Tetsuya and Great are

>>23363549
Please talk more about how cool Tetsuya and Great are, anon-san.

>>23363010 (OP)
Great's Toei anime wasn't nearly as successful as Z and Grendizer.
Great is just lucky to be Z's brother to get all the screentime with Z.

Grendizer made Koji fans have a meltdown to the point that Dynamic Hacks made meta jokes about how Grendizer existence is a nuisance and shouldn't have happened in Shin Mazinger Zero

>>23363274
underrated anime and manga

>Koji battles Dr. Hell's ambitions to take over the world
>Tetsuya fights the Mycenaeans' plans for conquest
>Duke defends the Earth against the Vegan Empire

You know, the Vegans should have had some connections to the Mycenaeans/Dr. Hell just to keep it in line.

>>23363552
Why san at me...
Well, Tetsuya's the older brother, you get both more of the warmth you wish you saw more often with Koji and Sayaka, but Tetsuya's already friendly with Shiro and treats him like a brother even before he catches on or finds out about Kenzo. His sorta-understandable jealousy with Koji is something he still overcomes and realizes that Koji still IS his younger brother. His mech has stronger attacks even though it's not as much of a variety, and it's cool that he's a Combat Professional and has more cool actions. Literally just "I think he and Great are really cool".
>Great
The V and sharper features are cooler, even though I really love and appreciate Z. The out-of-nowhere lightning attack is really fun, and him starting with the Scramble Dash tempts me to be cocky and say that base Great is stronger and better than base Z. The Great Booster's really cool as well, regardless of its size, as are the kicking upgrades, surely the fact that it has less upgrades means it's so strong already! Both Great and Tetsuya are also really cool in Zero as well, Shin Zero when?
>Duke
I like Duke too, haven't finished his show because the better subs aren't all out, but it's similar to how or when Superman's really well-written. The notion of an alien outsider genuinely loving the planet and its people to the point where he'd risk his life again and again and even die for them, you feel that warmth very often with Duke, to the point where he sometimes feels like moreso Daisuke to me than Duke.

I love Grendizer because it's more serious and focus on romance and tragedies,, while Z and Great are more childish and lean towards comedy more than serious matters

>>23363274
Ngl I thought this was a screenshot from Brave Command Dagwon
>>23363290
>Obviously SRW can use all that, but it feels more like it was stuff they left there for a season 2 they didn't get.
This is pretty much the only light at the end of the tunnel for me. As a guy who enjoys when SRW goes off the rails with Mazinger & it's related titles, I'm hoping if or when they do use Grendizer U we get a pseudo season 2.
>>23363562
I've been thinking about how to connect them and the easiest way to do that is have a weaker Vega empire try to take over the earth ages ago and have them fail against the Mycenaen army but the Mycenaens are forced underground or something after having heavy loses with Dr. Hell finding both there leftover tech from that war years later.

>>23363905
Can't unsee it.

>>23364582
I've noticed this a while ago. What was up with that shit.

>>23364584
I mean, red and yellow are easy eyecatching colors.

>>23364586
Sure but the same outfit over and over again. There are lot of ways you can have the same color combination.

>>23363562
>>23363905
>I've been thinking about how to connect them and the easiest way to do that is have a weaker Vega empire try to take over the earth ages ago and have them fail against the Mycenaen army but the Mycenaens are forced underground or something after having heavy loses with Dr. Hell finding both there leftover tech from that war years later.

I think the most natural way would be to make the Mycenaea a splinter from Vegan forces that arrived on Earth in ancient times. This way you can still hype up the Vegans as a bigger threat too, since they're the "main forces".

>>23363577
>Why san at me
https://files.catbox.moe/kj3743.webm

Do we know how Italy and France reacted to Duke getting treated like shit in U?

Does Grendizer have a watch guide similar to Mazinger Z's? I'm not going to skip episodes, but I would like to know which ones are the touchstones I should be waiting to reach.

>>23366849
>TELL ME HOW TO REACT!!!
Fuck you. How about actually having an organic reaction from actually watching the show as intended instead of looking for a list of peaks so you know when to clap or chimp out. Fuck you.

One year since the premiere of Grendizer U.

>>23366849
>>23366852 is correct. Just watch it.

>>23366852
Better idea: I don't watch the show at all because the only reason I'm here is SRW homework. I've got Daitarn, Nadesico, Dai-Guard and Macross Frontier on my to-do list, and those seem way more important than this show.

>>23366911
Even better idea. If you're only doing any of this as home, don't watch anything, don't bother with the game at all since you're clearly not interested and fuck off entirely.

>>23364830
This is still such a wonderful scene
>>23366849
May as well read some summary if you're somehow aiming for only the "important" episodes in a largely episodic show. The "filler" justifies the "important" moments when their time comes, and you get and appreciate the ongoing history that leads to whatever thing happened to be on- wait a minute, sorry, you're not actually skipping episodes. Why are you doing this? No, dude, the anticipation is going to be the reward, if you know the so-called "touchstones", the stuff in between is going to feel like filler. A lot of Z's big moments was rewarding because of the thing I just said and it looked like things finally paid off, but this is going to make the show feel like a chore or homework.

>>23366859
This was such a cool shot. The lighting, the minor shine on the mech, and the design all come into one really well here.

>>23367161
Whenever the mecha were handrawn in U, they looked great.

you kinda answered to yourself already. Tetsuya didn't make Koji his bitch like Duke Fleed did, and nips are still butthurt about it. Maria is the better version of Sayaka btw

Maria couldn’t get laid even when Sayaka wasn’t around to compete with her over Koji btw

>>23367124
I don't have anything I WANT to watch, though.

>>23368207
then read a book!

>>23368367
>inb4 "which pages are the best ones?"

https://twitter.com/hasegawa_model/status/1941052108721344643

>>23368777
Anon?

>>23368809
Yes, Anon-kun?

>>23368815
Where's your picture? You gotta have a picture.

>>23368869
Koji-kun said goodbye to the thread and is now off to fight the great king Vega all on his lonesome.

>>23369042
Oh... well, good bye Koji.

>>23363010 (OP)
>What went wrong

>>23370056
>>23364853
Goddamn, Duke will never live these moments down for the rest of his existence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG_DH-gMGy8

>>23370060
It's concerning

>>23370056
>>23372295
ngl I liked terrona more after this

>>23363010 (OP)
People were still mad that Koji back then was reduced to a sidekick.

Grendizer U had a chance to rectify everything but sadly that turned out to be done bad.
Shame. So much potential flushed down hard.

>>23369075
Koji-kun couldn't win against King Vega.

>>23363010 (OP)
Kaiserwank sells the most plastic shit, couldn't DARE outshine it in any way

>>23374379
Don't worry, bro, he comes back stronger than ever (SRW ignoring this for Kaiser in there 2nd use of U).
>>23374391
The easist way around that is just give Grendizer an upgrade on the level of Mazin Emperor G, Great Kaiser, or Mazinkaiser. There now, Grendizer can't outshine Mazinkaiser, and now there's no danger of it even possibly being stronger.

>>23374573
I hate it

>>23377485
Hopefully, they give this version Great Boomerang, since that's the move he used in the movie to kill two of the monsters before Great was taken out of the film. Double Thunder Break would be nice, at least like what happened in L (or we could hold that one off for Mazin Emperor G's new move).

>>23377544
MAP attack Great Boomerang when?

>>23378141
Hopefully, this game.If not, then never.

>>23378179
It's an odd choice for a MAP attack but personally I think it'd be really nice, does tie into the whole catch-them-off-guard thing.

>>23378180
Look, I'm always open to Mazinger units getting a map attack. Besides can't be any weirder than making Grendizer's final crash with Blakie a MAP attack.
https://youtu.be/xv1t_W9sf9k?si=5ktDbAxIhkRspL4Z&t=177

>>23367134
"Yappari."

https://twitter.com/motto_ishikawa/status/1943569843711803705
Uncle Go on the right.

>>23382818
I know it's probably just a standard old japanese man expression but they really could have taken a better photo

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20250711/k10014860751000.html
NHK Uncle Go video.

>>23363010 (OP)
Zero is punishing Duke Fleed for daring to lead a series where there's a robot who Mazinger can never match.

>Mazinger -> Mazinkaiser
>Great Mazinger -> Mazin Emperor G

When will Grendizer gets its upgrade?

>>23383004
Never. Now shut up and praise Shin Jeeg.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmvq1H5mgYg
Fucking Hell Stormbringer is cool.

>>23382869
>Fuck, Duke and his dumb space man robot
>Fuck, Tetsuya and his not off machine
>In fact, Fuck all these other robots, they aren't the original super robot
Was it autism?
>>23383008
The fact this is not in a console SRW game is sad asf.

>>23387033
>that giant cross on its chest
It's probably there for support or other, but man

Grendizer Go.

>>23395091
And stay go.

>>23363062
It was so funny how this shit thought it was getting a sequel.

>>23387478
What's wrong? It's just looks off is all.

>>23398871
>what's wrong, other than the part that looks wrong
I will destroy you
>>23398820
Do SMPs hold up well? I'd really love a decent-looking Mazinger and Great that I can play around with without it dying.

>>23387478
>>23398871
For a design as simple as Great Mazinger, the lines on the red heat sink are kinda distracting to be honest.

>>23398839
It really was and now I'm gonna be waiting for SRW to hopefully give it the Shin Mazinger treatment with it's own season 2.