-=READ THE GUIDES=-
Welcome to the Gunpla/Plamo General!
For those new, please read our guides. We have many resources available to help you in many different aspects of the hobby. They're here for you!
For the unclear, "plamo" is short for "plastic model". "Gunpla" is thus short for "Gundam plastic model". Many different kinds of models are built here, ranging from mecha to planes, cars, musume, you name it! If you're new, you're gonna screw up. Don't worry! If you're seasoned, don't make the newbies worry!
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One easy to use app that works well on Android:
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-=THE GUIDES=-
>Gelgoog Guy's gunpla guide:gunpla.buyfags.moe
>Funaka's gunpla guides:Building Gunpla: files.catbox.moe/fj5azc.pdf
Scratchbuilding: files.catbox.moe/2d9ppa.pdf
>Falldog's gunpla guide:otakurevolution.com/content/laymans-gunpla-guide
>A guide to other types of plamo:mediafire.com/file/1vf1aw7v91pz5pa
>Saintism's gunpla photography guide:saint-ism.com/category/gunpla/photography
-=OTHER RESOURCES=-
>Gundam lineart (There's a lot!):pastebin.com/22jyPB6q
>Dalong's gunpla reviews and documentation:dalong.net
>Schizophonic's gunpla/plamo reviews:schizophonic9-2.com
>KenBill Blog's gunpla/plamo reviews:blog.kenbill.com
>Past Groupbuilds:flickr.com/photos/197891373@N06
>Monthly Restock List:old.reddit.com/r/gunpla/1lob2na
Prior thread:
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-=ARTILLERY GROUPBUILD=-
Build a mecha or vehicle that uses long-range heavy-weapons such as Cannons, Missiles/Rockets, Railguns, or any other type of siege weaponry. Some clarifying rules
>The weapon can either be placed anywhere on the build (Shoulder-mounted, under-slung, etc), or in a separate side-build (Such as an artillery system utilized by a larger mech).
>Side-builds can include things like howitzers, self-propelled artillery, missile platforms, and the like.
>Alternatively, the mech can act as a spotter, loader, or some other role to support Artillery fire.
>Despite technically being a long-range weapon, Sniper Rifles are a no-go.
Send your entries to gunplaplamo@gmail.com with at least 5 photos of your finished build along with any WIP photos and a description of your entry.
START: 4/13/25
END: 7/31/25
Post what you're working on!
Any recommendations for a good clear coat enamel? or anything for a thin/smooth protective coat?
>>23373982 (OP)>Nobody has tried to mode the Narrative into a Mu Gundam
>>23374032because the Mu Gundam is more similar to Nu than Narrative and it will be more tremendous work modding Narrative to Mu than Nu to Mu Gundam
Is there a plastic or resin 3rd party conversion kit to turn the MG2.0 MkII into the Super Gundam? I don't know if the ancient 1.0 G-Defenser fits and even if it did, I doubt I could find one
snapgods how we feeling tonight
>>23374051The cringe snapshitter fills his home with bare plastic, has never even heard of panel lining, and owns at least 16 different grits of sandpaper.
The Chad backlogGOD has a luxurious mental palace filled with fully painted, fully customized models and physically owns more tools than you can imagine, all in pristine condition.
>That kit's rare? Oh, I bought it for $20 six years ago. Yeah, I'm still thinking about building it.
What does your family or friends think about gunpla? Do you proudly display them or hide in a drawer after you finish building?
>>23374060shitposting aside it does make me smile the one anon who likes to hunt for old kits. I got my old MG Sazabi and several MG FAZZs and shit for actual single digit dollars each. I still have a couple of 1.0 Alexes sitting around that I paid 5 bucks for. Amazon's stock clearing sales for gunpla in the 2000s after the gundam boom died were wild.
>>23374060believe it or not there is bare plastic inside your bloodstream and your balls right now. its a bare plastic world you are just living in it. Snapgods embrace this fact and accept these plastic particulates in a similar manner to DC cells from G gundam this is where we get our power
OH NONONONONONONONNONO HAHAHHAHAHA
ITT: LAUGH AT AMERICANS
>>23374040it already has similar head and shoulders, what it's missing is actual armor on its limbs and torso which would make the resemblance stronger
>>23374101gunpla will get 25% more expensive if you live in america after august 1st
>>23374069I display them but I also never have anybody over to visit and I don't tell anybody about my hobby
>>23374091>an extra 25% tax on all japanese goodsman what the fuck, koto and pbandai have been hiking their prices now we're going to be paying even more for this shit. Can't even import now without getting fucked in the ass.
>>23374105>after august 1stThat's like in hundred years. I'll let future me deal with this. Sucks to be him
>>23374116there's a silver lining in that he's such a schizo this could become 0% or 5000% by the time August 1st actually arrives
>>23374091check these digits drumpf will bail out the moment the japs start conceding
>>23374069My parents tell me I'm going to run out of space soon. While they're not wrong, there's still some space left on my displays
>>23374116This post made me laugh harder than you intended.
>>23374093>somehow this nu gundam-looking motherfucker with the nu beam rifle is similar to narrative than nu gundamwut?
>>23374132What the fuck I've never heard of this thing before. bandai has a billion robots they can still lazily create from their archives and instead they have to chase FOTM shit
>>23374136>instead have to chase FOTM shitwhich is why we got the D-Gundam and Reben Wolf and Psyco Mark II and Gallus-J and....
>>23374091This reads like it was written by Ai, which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
>>23374137And we could have gotten A LOT more.
>>23374091This may be. A dumb question, but will this affect small eBay stores that sell 2nd hand used stuff from Japan? Like gundam gashapon vending machine figures, or the old gundam MSIA action figures. All crap from years back which you are buying 2nd hand used or new old stock. Would these only effect the prices of brand new made in 2025 items?
>>23374140it's like half of what we get.
>Gold Frame Amatsu Perfect Form is just the Amatsu Mina with two Blitz Gundam arms in gold colored joints and no Trikeros Kai & Tsumuha no Tachi claw
guess I know what I'm getting next, another RG gold frame
>>23374141It specifically affects anything being shipped out of Japan and into America after August 1st. If it's already in America it's fine. If it's not, it's getting 25% extra as a tip.
>>23374136Mu Gundam is basically a Nu Gundam prototype but still doesnt have a psycoframe which Char gave.
Narrative is basically a testbed MS for psycoframe MS which became Nu Gundam first lot (grey nu gundam from the cca trailers)
the guy was probably thhinking about Narrative Gundam Complete, which is a Build series MS
I know the answer might be "we don't know"", but are the kits coming in the Gundam Card Game starters unique sculpts?
>>23374153What do you mean?
>>23374148Personally I love the old fanart rendition, can't find a higher res form now though
>>23374159Like, are they different from the kits that will be released when Gundam Assemble launches?
>>23374147Damnโฆ.. a gundam converge figure in Japan is like 500 yen. in America itโs like 8.99 in a store before tax. thatโs going to make them like 12.00 each here. And if you order one from Japan thats out of print thatโs like 20.00 now it will be 25.00
Its over U_U
>>23374167and for other fanart I'd be remiss to not post Meaningless War's too, since the Hi Streamer designs fuck and it's a good nod to them.
>>23374167This looks like a Victory Era Gundam design but not a midget. This looks really good wtf.
>>23374169Should be same, card game and miniatures are part of the same project
>>23374177Yeah it's a neat blend of V-esque stylings with the Nu. I've always loved the way the incom sits on the backpack for some reason, it just looks cool. The game Mu Gundam never did too muh for me but its stick legs are pretty neat.
>>23374187It's a really good blend. The proportions are great, there isn't an over abundance of unnecessary details slathered all over the mobile suit. And on top of that the lines/curves of the whole body (legs are more rounded while the upper torso is slightly blockier) are implemented fantastically on conjunction with each other. DO WANT.
Gruntchadsโฆ. If weโre getting hit with a 25% model kit mark upโฆ.do we buy as many kits as we can now?
>>23374175Wow the hi streamer designs actually look really good when redrawn so the art style and proportions are more consistent with the rest of the U.C.
>>23374069I have mine on a few shelves here and there
My dad knows I'm into this kind of shit though he's not going to tell the difference between these or my transformers stuff
my friends are generally into this stuff to a greater or lesser degree, hell one of them giving me a gunpla kit of my birthday is how I got started
when I have girls over I keep them out, if they're going to stick around they might as well get used to it
A computer shop near me has this for $39.99 CAD, thats about $29.23 in real money. Is this a steal? It's not really my first choice but it seems like a good price. Last MG I built was GM Command Colony Type which is a considerably newer kit.
since amazon has its prime day shit going on, are there any good compressors and airbrushes available that I can grab off of there?
>>23374069mine's inside my room, though I do plan on displaying one downstairs if I get to win another medal
>>23374244It's a fair price, not really a steal. I'd pick it up, it's a cool kit. Have fun with the tubing though (you won't).
Does anyone have the zeta and p-Bandai aoz barzam? Can you swap the legs and arms between them without modification?
>>23374244The HG is usually like 25.00 BM (Big Macs) so a master grade being 5.00 more is pretty good
>>23374069I do rotations, only display one on my desk where it usually stays for 1+ month
My mom would see the same one 5 times and always say "wow you're done with a new one?" then appraise the painting
Sometimes I leave a snapbuild on another table before working on it and she appraises the painting on it too
>>23374171i will weep for you, my fellow convergechad
theyโre what got me into gunpla and i love collecting them so it sucks to see them get hit this hard
Zirius looks good, cant wait for the anime.
>monthly restock is all RG, MG and AC shit
gonna head in and throw dropkicks around
>>23374301>here's our new gundam anime, but since it debuted as a manga the whole line is pbandai lol
>>23374287Autism warning
Itโs retarded but I realized I probably have spent way more on the gundam converge figures than I have on the model kits. The problem all stemmed from me buying a zaku 1 converge figure from hobby lobby years back and being impressed with it enough that I decided to get a squad of green zaku 1s like you would have in zeonic front. But that wave also had the black tri star zaku 1s. So then I had 2 squads of zaku 1s. I thought that was going to be it, I didnโt want any more. but then a future wave released the GM. then I got a bunch of GMs to make a diorama.
It was at this point where I ended up looking at past releases and future releases to add to my diorama. and now I have like 50 of them. Mainly early UC figurines. Now if a wave has something I want, I get an extra army builder or two to repaint because I know they wonโt fucking do it. I had to make a char zaku 1 myself and still need to make Ramba rals. To this day I have 0 zaku 2 because they are all like 30 or 50 dollars and for that price I can get multiple cheaper figures. Like 5 of them.
my current project right now is Iโm going to use some spare zaku 1 black tri star figures (cheaper to acquire) and a Dom and possibly a gelgoog cannon from the most recent set and repaint them all in desert colors to approximate something like zeonic front. I have 12 GM and that alone is over 100.00. It all happened because of that one converge wave with the zaku 1. The weird part is Iโm not even a big collector and I got rid of most of my shit years back. There is just something about this line that I enjoy a lot. they donโt take up much room and they have really good sculpt work. And if you get small flight bases on Amazon and the some scale buildings from Amazon (my city brand) which has destroyed building packs, you can make something that looks like the old SDGO videogame.
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>>23374301It's hilarious seeing shit like this compared to the older Gundam designs posted earlier ITT. is modern bandai staffed exclusively by chinese now? Less is more.
>>23374315your autism clearly surpasses mine so you might already be aware of this, but surugaya tends to have a lot of them in stock, sometimes for decently cheap compared to other places you can get them
plus they frequently do free shipping campaigns, and rarely 20% off goods and accessories (which the converge figures are classified under) meaning you can get them for a pretty good price
>>23374326I have never heard of that website before, maybe Iโll use it in the future. I have been considering using yahoo Japan or something. among the things I got rid of years back were a tiny collection of gundam gashapon figures. The gundam collection 1/400 line and the g-sight 1/300 line. I noticed recently you can get those much cheaper on yahoo auctions than on eBay if you find the right lot. Have never used the site before.
Yeah I got super autistic about it. I donโt remember it anymore but I spent a day or two trying to figure out what scale the converge line is, and trying to find any buildings that scaled approximately with their size. Was a lot of work. they have the small size advantage of the previously mentioned gashapon lines, but without the con of soft gummy sculpts. So to make a battle diorama with them is actually very easy compared to doing something like that with gunpla kits and scale 1/144 scenery.
I think itโs just because I and a lot of people on here played the SDGO games years back before they cancelled it that the project appealed to me so much. you could fight people in PvP or do team based pve but the gimmick was almost every mobile suit was playable in SD representation. I mained a customized Leo.
Sorry for the stream of consciousness post Iโm about to pass out and go to sleep. Never hear anyone on here talk about the converge shit so got excited.
>>23373984Finna start snapping this qt
Snapgod uprising rally point
>>23374356iโm a snapGOD and im PROUD
>>23374244Personally I prefer the HG
The MG is really old and can't even hold up its own gun without modification or gluing all the joints in place
>>23374367You're a modeller aren't you? Glue is mandatory to use in all model kits. If it can't hold up the gun like it's supposed to, then you didn't use enough glue.
>one hour of sanding glued parts
Good lord I hate sanding, I'm sure it's not even perfect and tiny holes will show up after priming. Battle damage :^)
>>23374381This also removes any articulation in the kit. There's non permanent ways to fix this kit.
>>23374384Do you not enjoy the autistic satisfaction of getting the surface nice and smooth?
>>23374387Yes but I had been procrastinating the sanding for two days and forced myself a little after staying up for far too long. I also did not wet sand and have filled my nose with plastic dust. I will inhale lacquer fumes to clear my nose
>>23374390>I also did not wet sand and have filled my nose with plastic dust.This will unironically kill you. At the very least wear a plain cloth mask to block the plastic particles if you dont like wet sanding.
>>23374395>This will unironically kill youNo it won't, sure it's not healthy and will cause lung problems in the long term if you sand a lot, but it won't kill you
Resin dust on the other hand...
>>23374395>inhale gun powder fumes>inhale plastic dust>inhale paint fumes when pre thinning>been drinking energy drinks since ripe age of 13I am due for a short life
>>23374381>Glue is mandatory to use in all model kitsthe point of gunpla is that it doesn't require glue
>>23374395It's okay, my nose hair will filter all microplastics
>>23374410No!! You have to booooooooond
>>23374404>shortened lifespan NTA but Idk bro. 2025 isnt the future I envision growing up, if we donโt course correct to some degree I donโt want to see what 2050 is like. If I pass a decade earlier I donโt see it as a huge loss. Gonna try to just enjoy myself in the mean time. Sometimes even thatโs a struggle.
>>23374410Not this bait again, post your work if this is true.
>>23374428My bad, this was meant for
>>23374381
>>23374317It makes sense for the lore of the Gundam 8, it uses those fin shapes to harness/manipulate the shards from the dead aliens.
>>23374420That's why I don't feel bad for being careless with health
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you niggas jelly?
>>23374420The more you grow older the more bleak it becomes. The plastic crack is just there to make you forget. Now order from USAGS.
>>23374438How much you got it for?
>>23374435Personally I suggest (and Iโm still learning this myself) the appropriate balance to everything(for my needs). I try to eat a lot of nutritious food and exercise semi regularly to offset my vices and bad habits to whatever degree I can. Not making it to 60 is one thing but I also want to stave off feeling like dogshit as long as possible.
>>23374439>Now order from USAGSI did this and Zak personally delivered it. He also personally delivered a monolog about my early impending death.
Then he punted the box.
>>23374244The old 2001 Gouf? That thing's a piece of shit, at that price I would say it's barely worth it and only if you really intend to put effort into making it shine. Seeing as how you got that picture from Dalong, you've seen how bad its limb motion range is, even modern HGs are better in that regard. That would make posing it a bitch, even if you coat the arm joint pieces with nail polish or gloss coat to tighten up the tolerances to allow it to raise the weapon.
So, yeah, you'd have to really love the Gouf Custom, or be willing to put a bunch of work into it.
>>233744482001 gouf custom is okay. It has some weak joints but it looks good despite it.
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The "japanese official" who said gunpla will get more expensive for americans
>>23374438No, that thing isn't even measurably improved from the 2003 MG. I ain't buying one until they make a proper 2.0 from the ground up, even if it takes another 10 years.
>>23374463The HG needs a revive first (along with an HG Mk V Gundam)
Speaking of the HG
>>23373984Gonna have to do a low of sawing to turn this into a proper G-bomber. Really wish the backsirt/wings had been individual pieces at least, they're gonna be the biggest pain in the ass I think. Going to need a new connector for the Smartgun too.
>>23374463I don't see it ever happening.
there are parallels to be made between the gunpla and dating markets
>>23374479yeah I've been trying to get big titty goth gf but everytime they go up for preorder on p-bandate the scalpers get them before I can
>>23374444$130
I saw one on sale in Sapporo for $240USD and almost bought it but I'm glad I waited
>>23374439I'm never fucking ordering from USAGS again. One time I bought something from them and it took over a month just for them to ship it. YES it was in stock, not a preorder. I had to fucking email them to ask them to send it. Never again, EVER.
>>23374547That was just Zak getting back at you. You neglected his needs, so he neglected your order.
>>23374547>no tip?>delay it.
>>23374381Snap faggots can't really use glue because due to the lack of paint, the glue's side effects like its fog, leftovers will stay on the kit. They can only beg Bandai daddy to release version 2.0
>>23374547Yeah, I don't know why they sometimes do that. Other times they ship same or next day. It's bizarre.
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Started in on the Aggjin project.
Currently I'm just breaking it down into parts and combining the separate meshes, which is a lot more work than it sounds like because the ripped model for some reason has overlapping vertices all over it, instead of just a single connecting one. Which is baffling.
From there the obvious next step is to improve the quality of the mesh so it's nice and smooth, then add details like panel lines, and finally add the actual articulation. I'm thinking I might use the method that the scratch built one on the Hobby Japan site used for the arms, just buy a thick flexible wire instead of individual double joints or a series of ball joints. Especially considering how heavy the hands are going to be.
Reminder that your Gunpla doesn't have enough missile pods.
So, abit of short review on Xamel kit. Unironically a fun kit, build it like how you build a military kit and you will be fine. My only complain is how they gave it too many new pretty surface details when it is clearly not meant for such thing. Other than that, still a very exotic design and i recommend it for other modelers. I will paint it tomorrow when i have free time.
>>23374594Don't forget to submit it for the groupbuild
What's a good online place to sell Gunpla/Plamo for Europe?
>>23374602Facebook groups, I guess
>>23374600I dunno. It will be just a straight build with a paintjob. Not very creative for a group build.
>>23374607Cover it with putty first then
>>23374613That would be a must if you want to recreate its animation design.
>>23374583>the ripped model for some reason has overlapping vertices all over it, instead of just a single connecting oneI don't really get what you mean but you can just merge vertices by distance with M
>>23374594Whereโd you cop this?
>>23374614I want to see you slather a nightingale with putty
>>23374634It is a 3rd party plastic kit. You can buy it anywhere since there are plenty in stock. Also, it seems like the plastic is ABS since ABS cement works pretty well on it.
>>23374438is that supposed to be a flex? that's not even the P-Bandai version....
this is how you flex
>>23374706there is a pbandai ex s?
>>23374706I despise you thats why I'm gonna paint my nails to cope.
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>>23374715OH YEAH now I remember. It was such an underwhelming who the fuck asked for this re-release that I forgot. It has like 1 new weapon or something like that.
>>23374708yes, the P-Bandai version of the Ex-S Gundam is back to the darker/brighter blue than the pale blue of the retail version of the Ex-S Gundam
from the blurb, it says it also includes the barrel extension to make it the rapid fire beam smart gun, which you can only get if you buy the P-Bandai S-Gundam Bst version. but im not sure.
are we flex posting now ?
>>23374708the pbandai Ex-S has a new extra gun and new water slide decals
>>23374721My cats look like this and say this
what's the difference between the 1.5 ex-s and the original?
>>23374749More friendly toward casuals who are obssessed with shit like innerframe and articulation.
i got a bunch of 30 minutes kits coming today. theyre the first model kits ive had since i was a kid and im hella excited
does anyone know of monoeye gundam kits exist?
>>23374759Nigga are you 16?
>>233747491.5 Ex-S contains parts so you can make either Ex-S or the S Gundam and the boosters have better articulation to mimic the illustration.
the original only contains part for Ex-S Gundam, you have to buy the S Gundam to build the S Gundam and it has worse color separation for parts
>>23374765>it has worse color separationSounds like a good modelkit. Does Bandai reprint 1.0?
not this retarded shitflinger again
>>23374761Sisquide is the closest thing to monoeye gundam aside from Nise Gundam but there are no kits of either as far as I know
>>23374759which ones?
most are pretty underwhelming when complete but the fun starts when you have several and can mix and match to see what sticks
>>23374769>old good new bad contrarian >hasnโt been in the hobby long enough to already own a 1.0Why are you larping as a grog?
>>23374782The less color separation a modelkit has, the better it gets. Doesn't have to be old.
>>23374782The less articulation and color separation a modelkit has, the better it is. Simple as that. Bandai could really learn a lot from Kaiyodo
>>23374782>Cares about color separationPaint your kits.
>>23374793Part separation is a positive even if you paint
Masking sucks ass
>>23374793>thinking color and part separation is only good so snapshitters donโt have to paintPart separation makes prep for painting easier and creates more convincing panel lines than a single part with molded detail
>>23374795Only when you try to airbrush everything that is.
>>23374763more than double that
>>233747773 altos(white, grey and white heay armor) 2 spinatio(army and ninja, i want shogun and black knight bad, but theyre either sold out or really expensive) pinatia(ninja and scout) liber knight , fighter lancer, and assassin and rosen knight
>>23374752>>23374765so then it doesn't really matter which i get if i'm a paintgod who is going to put it in the sideways gun pose after painting and then never touch it again
>>23374798If I wanted to brush paint everything I'd paint minis instead
Fuck off
>>23374803The 1.5 reuses a bunch of parts with improved detail and sculpting from the Deep Striker
>>23374809>improved detail and sculptingNah, the sculpt is the same old Bandai's mushy looks. The actual selling point is the color separation has been improved and corrected, which you don't actually need if you paint.
>>23374821Anon are you blind
>>23374821>>23374809>>23374803the new Ex-S has parts separation for the backpack which allows it to move a little bit to the side, to recreate its old illustration pose, the old Ex-S, has its backpack a brick, no articulation whatsoever, so the old Ex-S is only good if you dont care about recreating the pose from old illustrations and really be just a brick
>>23374725So, just the gun because you're going to buy the Delpi or G-Rework waterslides to replace the ones included.
>>23374825Are you blind? This bitch has french fries on her head and you call that improved sculpting?
>>23374836Improved means better than before, not perfect
>>23374829>has its backpack a brick, no articulation whatsoeverAs it should be
>if you dont care about recreating the pose from old illustrationsYou can with modeling.
>>23374845trying too hard
>>23374829i'll just wait and see if it really does get reprinted later this year. not really in a rush for it
>>23374853Oh shit, did you actually removed the safety flags? Trying too hard, should have bought the non existent RG without them.
>>23374855you mean the normal 1.5 Ex-S Gundam, the old Ex-S Gundam or the P-Bandai Ex-S Gundam?
if the old Ex-S Gundam, it may take a very long while and very hard to acquire, the last time I saw a reprint of the MG Super Gundam was around 2018-2019 and it was limited item in Japan only
>>23374859oh shit, did you actually posted broken English? Trying too hard, no one can take someone being smug and yet speaking like a retard seriously
>>23374871the 1.5. the shop i normally buy from put it on their restock list with an ETA for early next year
finally, goddamn that took long
>>23374244the kit is pretty average but the upside is you get a 1/20 of Norris with it to paint up.
>>23374583It's either a side effect of the rip, or it's for decal placement instead of actually modeling something.
>>23374873>He made no argument I accept your concession
>>23374873This is a modeling thread, not an English education thread, snapshitter-kun.
I printed a runner holder and parts trays and put non slip rubber backing on them so tonight I am going to snap a 30MF kit :3
>>23374923are you sure? I'm 99% sure this is a thread where you pretend to be a professional modeller.
>>23374923Everyone knows grammar is paramount to your ability to build little plastic robots. Duh.
>>23374931Grammar is paramount to your ability to communicate with other people over a text based social media forum about your interests
>>23374145And the Amatsu Mina Complete is the Mina with the Okitsu no Kagami. I remember people complained about the originally long and uninspired name of the Mina with the new weapon.
Speaking of gold, I have been pondering hard about the RG Akatsuki incident and have been thinking that if we are getting an HGCE Akatsuki, it should use the A plate of the Duel Blitz and Lightning Buster to use the SEED Action System, include both Oowashi and Shiranui Packs, and finally exclusive joint parts to wield the Zeus Silhouette as a more solid alternative to the crappy RG.
>>23374934You will never get an Akatsuki kit with both packs. Or any pack user. And honestly you shouldn't even want it. The better call is to release a Shiranui version and an Oowashi version so no one will buy Oowashi.
>>23374927>I'm 99% sure this is a thread where you pretend to be a professional modeller.Faggots who claim " color separation is for modeling " and " It is impossible to do ABC " are definitely pretending all right. These subhumans don't actually want you to modify or changing the OOB design, they just want you to consume.
>>23374941>what about these takes? what about things random people said? ugggggh don't you know there are people out there who HATE you customizing plastic robots?? I swear it's true because I imagined itYou're such a weird little person
>>23374941Explain how less color separation is strictly better for modeling.
>>23374947i get to think about huffing more paint when I imagine things I may build, but wont.
>>23374947All you're going to get in response are complaints about poor molding and design, like for instance RG Sinanju's trim molding compared to MG or HGUC Sinanju's which is much sharper and nice. But it's not endemic to multi-part construction.
>>23374438A little. Got it and the FAZZ for $130 a piece but theyโre coming next year. Gotta build the Mk V in the meantime though
>>23374938Why, because the Oowashi pack gave both Cagalli and the viewers PTSD over the machine that nearly killed her?
>>23374962Because no one fucking likes it over Shiranui. It does less in the show and has less gimmicks. People like funnels.
>>23374947Color this color that, the plastic's molded colors don't matter once you paint the kit. Excessive color separation is also just a waste of time, the snapshitting time increases with no values whatsoever to the end product of yours. This might sound like another " le epic modeler take" to your snapshitter brain and i don't expect it to change your opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.
>>23374946of all the 4chan boards, /m/ has some of the most choleric people.
You just gotta build your dudes how you want and live your life. it's your plastic, there is no better or worse.
>>23374973braindead opinion
i have not started on my groupbuild entry
>>23374968That's because it only appeared in a single episode and jobbed to the point it gave Cagalli PTSD and never fought in the front lines ever again. Had Kira actually died, Cagalli would have been the third victim in Shinn's rage towards Orb.
>>23374947there is only two possible reasons I can think of
1) an airbrusher does not like having to paint a ton of very small pieces
2)some people like to build up gradients and highlight with the airbrush, which looks really nice across large and flat surfaces.
color separation is nice though, it makes things look more detailed and finished.
>>23374993>1) an airbrusher does not like having to paint a ton of very small piecesi mean they can just assemble the smaller pieces into a large piece the same as a large piece that doesn't have color separation
having the pieces separate just gives you more options
How to phrase this...
Not to post my sob story, but
I want to spend as little money as possible on this hobby. Not an ideal situation, but fully devoting myself and spending the money I'd want to to commit and get the level of quality I want out of my builds isn't something I can do right now.
Problem I'm running up against is my acrylic paints (currently all I have - suits my needs for mixing colors for color matching/painting/detailing/hiding nub marks etc) leave a matte finish which I don't like very much.
Considering getting clear enamel and enamel thinner, which I would have to apply by hand with a brush.
Any recommendations?
Or any recommendations for better options/techniques?
Goal is to match the glossy texture of the plastic.
>>23375019The finish of the paints doesn't matter a whole lot because you should be top coating them in the end. That's where the final finish comes from. If you want a gloss finish use a gloss topcoat.
>>23374993pros for parts/color separation:
it takes less time to paint more parts than fucking fuckity fuck fuck complete waste of time ad infinitum tedious work of masking shit
masking shit is not a modeling skill, its just boring work
>>23375028I guess that's what I'm asking for is recommendations for gloss topcoat. For acrylic paints.
>>23375038>masking shit is not a modeling skill, its just boring workAirbrushing every single part is boring work. Assembly itself is a boring work. Kitbashing is boring work. When you are ready to do modeling, it is boring, tedious, time consumming and most of the time the results don't even look good. And that's why alot of people love it.
>>23375038it's supposed to be tedious and boring, you're putting together a posable 3d puzzle.
>>23375051I find assembling model kits very fun actually, not boring at all. Kitbashing too. I even enjoy sanding. Masking sucks though.
>>23375051All of these things are enjoyable even if you insist they aren't. You seem to be more interested in whining about kits being engineered too well more than any of that anyways.
>>23375097The least proficient people run their mouths the most
>>23375042some cheap glossy polyurethane sealant from a hardware store will do the job. Just try it out on some spoons first
>>23375042I like vallejo gloss. You have to thin it a lot and put it on really thin though.
>>23375106And the snapshitters defend their unpainted kit the most. " They are already in correct colors, bro ".
>>23375139Post your work.
>>23375139Charge rent already
https://x.com/SPiCa_nagatsuki/status/1942492111447941158
>>23373983>>23373984Update on the X-0, the launcher canon is giant.
Made a small modification on the shoulders full cloth, so I need to wait for the glue to dry.
>>23375107>>23375114Will look into these
>>23374947Overcomplicates engineering which drives up cost
There's no reason why a model needs to be anything more complex than a simple plastic clamshell
>>23375160You're too poor to afford that either.
>>23375156I should've thought to model on the kitchen table, I've been having to bring my plastic shavings to the kitchen to season my food everytime. God I'm stupid.
Looks pretty cool though anon. Not too big on the shield aspect of it though. Personally I think it could really use some cabling running to a power pack or some shit.
As a trve modeller, should I hate the red gundam since it has ample articulation or love it since it's ugly as fuck oob and ripe for fixes
>>23375173You should hate it because it's too new. Trve modelists only build monochrome kits from 40 years ago.
>>23375169I was using this model as inspiration, as a place to put a emblem, but I agree it doesn't look very good. Maybe if I flip the shield?
>>23374947imo colour separation is only bad in cases where it compromises accuracy or detail solely for the sake of not needing paint
>>23375183I definitely figured it was either the KoG or other FSS buster-launcher MH that was your inspo, definitely shows. The shield itself really conjures the LED Mirage, and the whole thing a bit LED Mirage with flame unit. With that in mind I think it'd work better as just being a shield for X-0 itself rather than incorporated on the gun.
Spitballing some ideas, but maybe it'd be cool as something like a basket-hilt style guard on the cannon? Basically just drilling a barrel-sized hole in the center of the shield and sliding it down. It would be very practical, defending in the direction of shooting by default. Alternatively, mounting it to the opposite arm/shoulder in an F90 Guard type/Imperial Rig Contio style could be cool. Final idea that comes to mind is using it as a prop, Ground-gundam and GM Sniper II style, for the cannon to rest on.
What do we think about the humble Demi Trainer.
>>23375314I like it a lot.
>>23375314excellent trve grunt return to form
>Reminder that Bandai has this tech since 2015.
I only have access to tamiya acryllic laquers
1. Is there a reliable way to make offwhite? Does tamiya have colors close to offwhite?
2. After spraying ts-13 laquer clear, am i able to apply mineral spirits, for a penel line wash? If so which mineral spirits should i buy?
>>23375211I think l will just ditch the shield, I don't have much time to mess with it until the deadline, but your ideas are good.
>>23375314Very nice. It's a crime that the demi garrison is stuck in pbandai hell.
If gunpla has to die I hope it's before I see aerial getting BLACKED by katoki
>>23375314heckin' wholesome valid demiboy uwu
>tfw you ordered a Nu Gundam HWS but what arrived was a regular Nu Gundam
I hate overseas shops so much it's unreal
>>23375366>send message with picture saying you got the wrong product>get the right one sent>keep the wrong onethis is how it has always gone for me. I got a free P-Bandai MG X-2 that way when they sent me it instead of the X-2 Kai.
>>23375370Man I hope that fucking happens to me too, but knowing my luck, and Malaysians that probably won't happen
>>23375371If it doesn't they're a shop to not support, owning your fuckups is business 101.
>>23375346This is how I shit.
>>23375371When that happens you just charge back and never use that store again.
heaven or hell, let's shit
>>23373982 (OP)hey that is my boi
>>23375409that metalgarurumon looks clean
>>23375347You make panel wash by mixing mineral spirits with enamel paint, not acrylic. At a 5:1 ratio or thereabouts, it should be good.
Mineral spirits is mineral spirits. You can also substitute it with lighter fluid if you don't want to buy the huge cans of that shit at Home Depot. Just go to the cigarette counter at Walmart and look for the Ronsonol.
I wish re/100 actually continued on and was reserved for huge suits like the Nightingale, Kshatriya, Xeku Zwei, and Xi or really obscure suits . That line was over the second the Dijeh was announced then was really killed when they came out with the fucking Jagd Doga around the same time as the infinitely better MG Geara Doga
>>23375471It just turned into full mechanics.
>>23375471>around the same timethe Geara Doga had been out for 5 years by the time the Jagd came out dude.
>line was over when the 4th kit, and only one not announced on release, was announced>that was fundamentally no different from the GP04G or Efreet Exam
>>23375420Ibought the tamiya panel line was, and need to know how enamel thinner interacts with tamiya paints, NOT whether or not you can make washes with acryllics.
I top coated with ts13 clear, over an airbrushed tamiya acryllic off-white mixture.
https://x.com/itashanXD/status/1942378453388648633
>>23375499My thoughts are that Bandai shoulda made this like 10 years ago by now.
>>23375499I can just barely recognize a few Hyaku Shiki elements in that clusterfuck.
>>23375499Desperately needs paint and the head feels off. Could just be the pose. The yellow-shit gold never looks good though.
>>23375506FA Shiki Kai has never looked very much like the original Hyaku Shiki. That's not much of a redesign of the FA Shiki Kai as it exists in modern depictions either.
>>23375499wat is this? a new chink kit?
This is an urgent message for Toks Omishaken, the executive of the California state transportation agency. Toks, as the leading figure in charge of imports coming into the united states, you must follow this warning. The international terrorist organization known as "Bandai" is using a website known as "Premium Bandai" to smuggle demonic spores into the country and use our topsoil to grow "Redweed", an invasive plant that grows fruit that is the only sustenance for soulless humans. Toks, you have to stop them
>>23375512That kit is pre painted anon. Chang's mustard gold looks like this.
>>23375142Not him but why? Why should anybody post their work just brcause one of you retards got their feelings hurt? What do you get out of it? How does it support you or him?
I've never done a gunpla before. I'm thinking Strike is the way to go, but also considering the Wing Zero.
>>23375527Full Armour Hyaku Shiki Kai variant. Bandai doesn't interested so Zhang made it. 1/100 if you're wondering
>>23375558of course the chinks would find a way to turn it into an overdesigned clusterfuck
>>23375542I have noticed a handful of snapshitters being very active in these threads. Everytime someone make a slightly harsh opinion like "color separation is for babies who don't paint ", they will get very defensive and try force that into some sort of meme that no one laugh at but them.
The other fag is the one who has such a low testoterone level, he couldn't scratch lacquer paint off bare plastic and claimed anyone who said otherwise as retard and "spreading misinformation ". I haven't see an actual painted build from him, all he posted was a HG Barzam II parts being pasted with white lacquer paint. /gpg/ is full of people like these nowadays.
>>23375554Both of the hgs are fine. The entry grade strike will be the easiest.
Massive bonus if you follow zaku aurelius guide, and spend 30$ in spray cans or buy 100$ airbrush and primer.
Its an investment but worth it long term.
>>23375572The problem with painting is all the cost is frontloaded. Once you buy the airbrush, compressor, primer, paint, paper towels, cotton swabs, aligator clips, foam etc. Your costs go down to 20$ a week even if you were painting full time. That 20$ really just goes to restocking paint and primer and iso alchohol.
People get scared off by the cost and leave.
This week i had to learn how to spray white primer over white, followed by covering it with white paint. Its really hard to tell whats painted, but i got over that hump in 2 attempts. Might paint more gundam-type ms
>>23375572Masking parts doesnโt make you a modeler
>>23374885Shame actual movie was shit
>>23375506>Hyaku ShikiDon't you mean Shลซrรน yฤซbวi?
>>23375490put a gloss coat over any pant before using the panel liner or enamel anything. Also do not let it touch bare plastic.
>>23375599It was alright. you guys exaggerate how bad it is.
>>23375561It looked pretty clusterfucky to begin with.
>>23375572no snapshitters dont care about color/parts separation. it is a god given gift if a kit has great color/parts separation. less time to do masking. why snapshitters would like color/parts separation, it just takes them more time to snap kits. for modelers, parts/color separation is great because it takes less time to mask shit.
the only time that you should really mask is if you scribe and greebled your kit to create forced color separation. or to make camo patterns.
even car and tank model kits are now doing more parts separation. the car body used to be in 1 piece, now theres more parts separation, the bonnet is separate, the doors are now separate
pic related, this is what a car model kit used to be like
and this is a modern bike model kit.... ooooh parts and color separation.... .bad......
anyone who argues that more color/parts separation is for snapshitter is a snapshitter himself
>/gpg/ still falling for bait in 2025
>>23375637This looks like a pain in the asshole
>>23375655There's nothing that says you have to keep shoving your models up there, bro.
>>23375572>The other fag is the one who has such a low testoterone level, he couldn't scratch lacquer paint off bare plasticHoly brainrot, I'm sure it's test levels stopping a fingernail from scratching off the paint. Way too funny to think you've been seething about that post this long.
Besides the inevitable HG G50, what do you think bandai is going to do for the 50th anniversary? Kinda seems like they blew their load for the 45th by making the most popular Gundam a PGU instead of for the 50th
>>23375678Probably an enormous celebration the likes of which we've never seen or imagined before. If I dare to dream, they might make 3 MGs that year.
>>23375678I think 0079 is due for a reboot, and a 12 episode recap makes sense for seasonal anime. Maybe they only get to garmas death or the battle with ramba ral.
Repackage all the old designs as new kits. Aim for 15$ entry grade style builds
>lineupGundam
Guntank
Guncannon
Zaku
Chars' zaku
Gyan (earlier appearance than in original anime)
Gouf
Then next season you can do zgoks, goggs, gelgoogs gms, etc.
Probably end the anime in second season with the full armor gundam at abou a qu.
>>23375687I doubt we'll see a remake of the original until everyone involved with it is dead.
I wouldn't be too surprised if they took the opportunity to give us something like a 1/144 Big Zam though.
how do I snap this in a way that lets me get it back apart for painting later?
>>23375690Just get a little parts separator and it's easy to take apart.
>>23375690Either snip a corner of the peg off, or cut the side wall of the peg hole, but not both. It reduces the friction between peg and hole enough that pulling the pieces apart with your fingers is easy, but (usually) not so much that the piece becomes loose.
>>23375690You can cut a simple notch in the female peg hole wall, or circumcise the male part, whichever.
>>23375572the only people who get uppity and use the term "snapshitter" unironically are snapshitters themselves.
they never post their work.
does bamco sell infividiual parts. i seem to have lost a p7 part in my 30mm alto kit
Snapgod reporting in. I cut my model kits parts off the sprue with house scissors. sometimes what I do is I grab the part with thick grooves pliers and just twist it off the sprue by force. this occasionally damages the part but it is of no significance to the snapgod.
This is what your average Gunpla fan looks like.
People complaining about part separation is advanced fucking autism like to the level that itโs further than almost anything I have seen on this website since I came here regularly in 2008 or so. having the different pieces, with different colors or the same color, helps me paint them and gives me more freedom how I approach it. I really donโt fucking care if that means the mode kit is an extra 3 dollars. More parts also means more convenience is you kitbash because you donโt need to do as much cutting.
>>23375499I want it so bad.
>>23375561right unironically looks more overdesigned than left
>>23373984OUT OF THE WAY, ANIME ROBOT FUCKING SHITS
Make way for the REAL GruntChad
>>23375687Your idea sucks ass
Just animate The Origin for fuck's sake, it's literally free money
>>23375756Only if you're japanese, gaijin are second class citizens
>>23375801fuck. now i have a unit that looks like someone ripped him in half in battle. maybe i can use that
>>23375615It's fine to let it touch bare plastic as long as the model isn't assembled(and thus stressed) and you don't let it pool. Cracking is from a combination of those two. Gloss coats are good anyway though, helps it flow better.
>>23375819Cute boy.
>>23375827>visible adams appleWhat do you think?
>>23375840>What do you think?Nice
>>23375637They sell master grade cars?
>>23375819one series and the gundam fandom let even crazier fuckers in the club. id rather deal with the constant seed bitching than...this
>>23375847>Hajiroboshi at home
>>23375637damn this looks cool
>>23375860I googled painting the ruber tubing for zakus and I got a few posts saying it will crack and peel off even with primer.
Is there something I can do about this? I dont want to spend $15 on metal tubing, not when I have 3 tristars to paint.
>>23375896Accidental reply, that was a general question aimed towards the general.
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>>23375896Which Zakus are they? You could always get some springs and cut them down to size.
>>23375561Most of the styling is lifted from the Katoki Fix Figuration design
>>23375896Did those posts mention anything about multiprimer? That's usually the go-to primer for surface with poor paint adhesion
>>23375900I fucking hate Wave so much. They hardly get imported to my shithole country.
>>23375900Gto black tri stars.
>>23375904No they just vaguely mentioned adding in flex agents phrased in a speculative manner. Not really a solution but a guess.
Does multiprimer work well with acrylics or do I need special paints?
>>23375914it should, but it's best to slap another layer of primer on top of that just to be on the safe side
>>23375915What's a good brand? Im searching "multiprimer" on my shopping app and Im getting cookware lmao.
>>23375782dubniggers are crazy for thinking these creatures are entitled to voice anime girls
>>23375927Yeah white people have no place working in anime
>>23375931I agree, with the sole exception of comedic racist depictions of gaijin. I'm ok with them bringing in one of us to voice that. Because it's funnier when they get a white dude to do it.
>>23375946What's that? You want a p bandai japan only release? I'm sure we can oblige.
>>23375819>>23375827>>23375841>>23375840oh, i do have her lilith cosplay set.... lol
Log: Iโm getting tired no one is on /m/ Iโm alone maybe Iโll go to sleep? end log
>>23375572there were multiple people calling you retarded for spreading that, not just that one guy who made the shitty videos. maybe stop being retarded for 5 minutes
>>23375917gaia, jumpwind, hobbymio (theirs is called hmt-10 rather than "multiprimer")
>>23375917mr metal primer works as well
>>23375756Bandai offers a free part replacement service if youโve got the receipt and itโs within a few months recent. It will take months to ship though, so another option is to look up individual part sellers
Sometimes I wonder if I should just hit gold paint with matte or semi gloss instead of gloss, seeing how good it looks like in pic related
>Dalong has merged and reorganized the entire MG section of the website
Fuck, why.
>>23376000>how good it lookslooks like injection molded mustard gold
>>23376007No? You can clearly see the metallic flakes, really fine ones even
>>23376007So it looks like real gold?
>>23376003It's literally not that bad. It now follows the same format as other section. IMO it's easier to find what you're looking for when it's organized like this.
>>23375678>>23375687I wish the HG Revives never stopped. Would've been nice to get a new Dom or Gelgoog
>>23376056You mean the gunpla evolution project
>JMS Puru 2 Qubeley and JJ long rifle Moon Gundam out already according to krw
>0 listings on Ali
So how long does it usually take between something being out on chinese markets and being available on Ali?
>>23376059Gunpla Evolution Project is Bandai's directive to make a HG of every protagonist Gundam in every series.
Revive is like the HG version of the Robot Damashi ver A.N.I.M.E.
>>23376071Revives are just older kits remade with modern engineering. GEP was a one-off thing for the HGUC Zeta that got engineeringcrept a year later by the 0088 HG.
>>23375931this includes english parody subtitles too.
the only exception i could make is for soundtrack because there's a few good gaijin composers
>>23376064Maybe they're listed under legally distinct names like Red Moth Warrior and Psychic Plate Warrior or some shit
>>23376064Anon?
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005009439253667.html
>>23376113>.ruAnd just how the fuck am I supposed to buy from there?
>>23376125Just change it to .com you r-
>Sorry, this item's currently unavailable in your location.Oh
Is the RG Zephyranthes or Full Burnern the better kit?
>>23375542He is posting some incredibly hot takes about how color separation is actually bad because masking is better. Such bold claims require proof of concept to be taken seriously.
has anyone found out if the reben wolf can hold the zudahโs rifle yet?
>>23376131Both are good, but both suffer from a bit weak connection between the core fighter and upper torso. The Zephyrantes, having bigger and heavier backpack as well as some tiny thruster mechanism in the chest vents is seen as the less structuraly sound of the two
>>23376141If it has a trigger finger hand, it should be able to hold it no problem
You ARE painting your Reben Wolf in Space Wolf squad colors, right anon?
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>>23376179Negative. I'm painting mine in New Desides colors and giving it a Gundam head, just like Brave Cod intended.
>>23376179Implying our Bandai friends even paint at all.
>>23376186Fairly based, such a great shade of blue. Do you have a specific gundam head in mind?
Do any paint brands for primer is acceptable?
>>23376206>getting an expensive pban just for its headbrutal
>>23376179I would paint it in minty Doven colors if I weren't lazy
>>23376210oh, those are the Space Wolf colors. mb
>>23375483Re100 is for uc. Full mechanics is non uc
Im kind of glad they arenโt making kits anymore. Over the past year I havenโt bought any new kits and have just been working on my backlog. I used to feel bad about how big my backlog was but now I wonder if itโs going to last until they start making kits again lol.
>>23376215My favorite UC suit is the lindwurm. Thank goodness they put it in the re/100 line instead of the FM line where it doesn't belong. These are different things and it wasn't a rebrand at all.
>>23376209I've suffered for far less, anon
>>23376223>favorite suit is bawoo but uglierDisgusting
>>23376223Lindwurm's base kit is the RE/100 Bawoo, retard. All RE/100 have been UC and UC-based custom gunpla, for you pedantic fucks, while no Full Mechanics kit has been UC
>>23376220>Im kind of glad they arenโt making kits anymore.I have the opposite problem, way too many kits releasing at once
>>23376247You're gonna freak when they start doing FM gcucks kits.
>>23376220bandai hasn't been releasing anything good, but every other company has
>$7 ple2 qubelay with funnel effects
I'll just paint it white and I'm all set. Bandai can eat my ass if they think I'll pay the cost of an HG kit for 7 pieces of clear bent plastic.
>tfw can only paint maybe 2 kits a year because of 2-3 month wait times for shipping paints
I guess the upside is that it made me super selective about kits to buy since I'd never be able to work through any kind of backlog
>>23376253Kind of out of the loop with the other companies, what kind of stuff have you been picking up lately? The only thing I remember is that obari dragonar that looked sick
>>23376256Such is life in a third would country
>>23376252Good thing they wonโt. 1/100 is dead. Witch isnโt even getting them anymore.
>>23376252Doesnโt count or else gqux suits would be released under the HGUC moniker instead of HGGX
>>23376255Huh, I can actually see how itโs related to the elmeth in this pose
>>23376262I can't wait for my HG, non universal century, gundam rx-78-2
>>23376274I'm not sure what a shitpost has to do with what I'm working on.
>>23376275Because you should be modeling instead of shitposting
>>23376279I can do both. I am incredibly talented and handsome.
>>23376262>HGUCGcucks isn't UC.
>>23376283Thatโs exactly my point, FM gqux suits wouldnโt break the rule of re/100 being a U.C.-exclusive line
>>23376287Nothing would because the line is dead and rebranded.
>>23376288Thatโs not true
>>23376292When was the last release?
>>23376285>Source?Gcucks.
I HATE THE VARNISH TUBE ANTICHRIST
I HATE THE VARNISH TUBE ANTICHRIST
why yes i did just finish building my MG Zaku Warrior and fuck up the power tube
Is there something I can get that's cheaper than these aftermarket tubes? I dont mind paying but $15 for 1 zaku's tubes is ridiculous.
>>23376294I donโt care about release dates or how old kits are
>>23376301Because the line is dead and rebranded. Full mechanics replaced it.
>>23376302How could it replace something when it has a completely different scope?
>>23376325It's the same thing. The distinction you've made is arbitrary and coincidental.
looks cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QroIWYoNmZ8
>>23376302>Full mechanics replaced it.>first FM kit: 2016>latest RE100 kit: 2022uhh retardbro???
>>23376330I didnโt make the distinction retard. Re 100 is for uc and fm is for au. You canโt just replace uc with au.
>>23376353he who is without snapshit shall exclaim the first snapshitter
t. john bandai
>>23376335NTA, Re100 is kinda, one momment it is UC, the other momment, it is alternative UC and AU. Nightinghale is alternative UC, they also planned to make kit for Leo, Reborns and Gaia. Most of existing Re100 are from UC so alot of people mistaken it for being UC exclusive, when it was never the plan for this line.
>>23376360The leo is UC actually since they planned it to be re/100
>>23376364>>23376360Hg Leo is HGUC so whatโs your point?
>>23376360How did the line die with so many potential candidates to choose from?
>>23376367Re/100 shouldn't exist except for kits like Nightingale. That's why. Also I'm glad we're still posting that ancient image from literally 15 years ago of which a singular robot on it came true.
>>23376369Where's your official source of info that they didn't mean it and that the line is really only for UC suits?
>>23376369MG Jegan was probably repurposed from an abandoned Re100 design. Itโs a really barebones MG
>>23376368Why did it have poor sales? Do Japan not like big toys? I feel like it could have been good for grunts because they are just big Hgs. The mg grunts is more pieces and more expensive to build armies
>>23376364ngltbphf I wouldn't mind RG wing grunts.
Can't say I care for the gundams themselves, but the Leo and his cousins would have a place in my shelf.
>>23376366hg leo is HGAC retard
>>23376372I think most of FM SEED were RE100's on going developments until Bandai decided to kill the line off and transfer them to FM line.
>>23376374average japanese buyer does not have enough room in his prison cell apartment for big toys
>>23376368>>23376369The line deserved to die as retribution for making the Dijeh a re/100 instead of a master grade
>>23376374RE and FM in general are both expensive and at the same time, not giving the innerframe autists what they actually want.
>>23376374People wanted the more complex engineering of the master grade, I think.
>>23376374Bandai has put themselves into a corner basically. The userbase full of snapshitter won't take big toys without all of the fancy innerframe that they won't be able to see.
>>23376372>The Jegan was just converted to MG bro, trust meYeah yeah. Literally 10 years of hearing this bullshit.
>>23376394Where's the re/100 jegan then?
>>23376391Tell me the only difference between the FM barbatos and vidar and their MG counterparts is the inner frame.
>>23376391It's almost like building the kit is a source of entertainment and people enjoy building the frame. You're in an extremely fringe, small minority, of customers who think having to build it is a problem. The overwhelming majority of gunpla enjoyers enjoy building the kit, frame and all.
>>23374941>It is impossible to do ABCFor ESLs this very well may be true
>>23376399Innerframe is such a fucking meme.
>>23376396Why would they make an re/100 when thereโs already a master grade?
>>23376400For snapshitter, their ability to be fluent in english is a useless gimmick since they can't paint like a normal person.
>>23376402It's fun to build.
>>23376403They actually did that with the zaku ii.
>>23376406Zaku II or Zaku II Kai?
>>23376403Anon is convinced that that image is gospel, everything on that image was going to be produced and that bandai threw away all the planning and design work while conveniently one robot released as re/100 and another was last minute converted to MG.
I just penetrated a barrel with my drill for the first time
I am now a man, behold me
>>23376409If thatโs not the case, explain why the mg jegan just looks like a larger hg
>>23376404>For snapshitterSure, but this is still an English-speaking website
>>23376410Yeah you are a man. A transman.
>>23376412.... because it's a jegan.
>>23376413Whatever you say, snapshitter.
>>23376409It's proof that bandai did not think of the line as exclusively UC and that it's just some nonsense made up by autistic people who are convinced the line is still alive.
>>23376418>It's proofYou've been repeating this for 10 years. I literally became an old man listening to your nonsense.
>>23376416Master grades are allowed to, and should, take artistic liberties for the sake of a quality product
>MG RX-78-2 3.0
Does anyone actually do "army building"
>>23376426I do with Maschinen Krieger, but not in the style of "buy a kit 10 times". I usually paint them in similar colorscheme to create a uniformity.
>>23376425Many of them do not nor should they.
>>23376421An old man writing fanfiction about the intent behind dead brand.
Sad
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>>23376430>Reborn 100>DiedThe irony is so strong with this one.
>>23376425>a model kit shouldn't look like the original subjectRetard
This whole argument is starting to sound like a dramatic movie. " I have had enough of your shit! 10 years! 10 years of my vented hatred for the likes of you! ".
>>23376425Artistic liberties are to be taken by you, the modeler
Oh wait, there are no modelers in this thread
>>23376438High grades are for anime accuracy, anything more expensive (RGs, MGs, PGs) should include logical additional details not included in the source material due to budget reasons such as maintenance hatches and other mechanical detailings
>>23376440Donโt like it, just change it fag. Youโre a modeler right? I mean you have to have some starting point otherwise itโs just going to be a block you chisel like the old sculptors
>>23376442>High grades are for anime accuracyLet's not lie to ourselves, shall we?
>>23376431>Died>Just got a reprint this year
>>23376445You can still buy vintage NG kits, whatโs your point?
>>23376445Yeah it is alive. Now where is the new Non Grade 1/100, since Bandai just reprinted this shit?
>>23376374RE/100 kits were barely cheaper than their MG counterparts and were a lot worse. It wouldnโt really be a good line for grunts
>>23376445The last new mould the line got was 5 years ago (Shokew)
yeah i stomped your runners
you're a modeler right? fix it
youre welcome
>>23376447That its alive and Bandai hasnt forgotten about it?
>>23376453He said this to me except it was about my knees after I asked where my q1 preorder was last week.
After that he shoulder checked a stack of boxes.
>>23376442>not included in the source material due to budget reasonsWhat makes you think that's the only reason the designs aren't clusterfucks of greeble
>>23376452That is if you only count it's release date. Each product usually has around 2 to 3 years of development, so technically, Shokew's mold should be atleast 7 years old. The writing was on the wall when Bandai both stopped making new Re100 and even put the last of its kind on P-Bandai.
>>23376442>Anime accuracyIs there a particular frame from the anime that a kit must adhere to?
>>23376456Greeble is nice to look at but not nice to draw
>>23376461>Greeble is nice to look atNo it's not
>>23376430I was a young spry 20 year old when anon said we were going to get all these awesome robot model kits. My how time flies.
>been making holes with my new hand drill
>now can't stop coughing
does hand drilling really blasts particles like sanding? should i wear a mask?
>>23376473But Iโm a modeler
>>23376443The starting point is the model you buy. You can use tools to add details to the model like panel lines or scratch build new details. You can be as creative as you want.
>>23376466It is, as it looks more realistic as far as hatches/warning signs go. If a suit doesn't have to be visually stealthy, it makes sense for the greble.
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whoa...
>>23376488It's not supposed to be realistic, it's an anime character model
>>23376492>No paint>Dumb yoga posesThe pinnacle of gunpla
>>23376493It's from a real robot series, if it wasn't annoying to draw it would have been added.
>>23376417At least with snapshitters it's easier to pick up paint than it is for ESLs to learn the English language
>>23376500>At least with snapshitters it's easier to pick up paint Lol. LMAO even.
>>23376499Real robot is a meme, execs turned Tomino's vision into a marketing vehicle for kids' toys from day 1
>>23376500>Snapshitters>pick up paint
>>23376506>just call it anime ver. >it looks so bold and stylized >gunpla is freedom
>>23376505>execs turned Tomino's visionIt was never his vision. Tomino's original vision was "Gunboy" and had nothing to do with the later finalized concepts. The fact that they even credit him as the creator is a huge courtesy by itself.
>>23376404>t. can't paint inside the lines
>>23376514>can't paint inside the linesHere is your paint inside the lines, bro
>>23376504>>23376506>ESLs not having comprehension and registering an insult>and not posting their own kits either>but posting screenshots from >>>redditSasuga ESLs
Kano
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I can never get snapshitter's mindset and why do they get so defensive over the word "snapshitter". What else should i call you fags? God Emperor of Plamo? Diet Modeler? Sugar Daddy?
>>23376514I can't. Caffeine is a hell of a drug.
>>23376520>I need to label everythingIsn't that a sign of low functioning autism?
>>23376520FGO's rotted your brain.
>>23376516looks really good except for the face
>>23376517Sorry buddy. Snapshitters are not welcomed in these threads. We will take ESL painter over EOP snapshitter, Snapshitters are not human, atleast with ESLs, they are just human who live in another continent. Snapshitter? Paint nothing. Contributing nothing. Still want to be taken seriously.
What's up my handpaint chads, what're we painting with the brush today?
I'd suck so many dicks if Bandai just continued the EX line. More warships, more support vehicles, more dedicated MA/transformed mode models. God it'd be great.
>>23376391The only thing you can do with gunpla is building. What else are you going to do with it, it's a model, and you're not a kid anymore so can't use it as a toy. More parts = more fun = more value for money.
I just build and then throw finished robot into the storage under my bed.
inb4 painting
that's just unrequired artificial padding of time like doing all achievements in a video game.
building gives you a finished product like creators intended
>>23376438A model kit is the original.
Anime is just a commercial for it and for budget reasons mechs always have less details than they should.
>>23376506>>23376516panel lining is a meme
>>23376554Same with shading, shitters will never understand that 3D objects already have shadows and do not need you to simulate them
>>23376550No, the lineart is the original.
>>23376544I'd love EX Ra Cailum
shading is a meme is a meme
>>23376565You and me both brother. Although if I'm really gonna get my wishhat on it's the Reinforce Junior for me.
>>23376544*monkeys paw curls*
Hereโs your gundam ex bro
>>23376573>We're going for realism with this design>What about this design is more realistic?>Uhhhhhhhhhh
>>23376527>atleast with ESLs, they are just human>Paint nothing>Still want to be taken seriously.>>>>>>>>>>>>>weAt least proofread your grammar before you pretend to be a non-ESL, you stupid fucking animal
>>23376574there is literally no way to make a bipedal war robot realistic
>>23376577*cyborgs your infantry*
>>23376573As terrible as this design is, I do like the shield and rifle
>>23376577Now you're going to make me start posting this retard. You did that on purpose didn't you?
>>23376577I remember in the interview with the mechanical designer, he said that they went with smaller panels on the skirt and shoulder armor because at that size massive panels would weigh it down too much
>>23376581>this retard that has never been in a warNTA but cmon bro
>>23376580The shield is awful and the rifle is just guncannon rifle
>>23376583>never been in a warThere are tanks and planes that have never been in a war either but we commonly accept them as war vehicles.
>>23376584A greebled guncannon rifle so itโs automatically better
>>23376586helps that they're iterations of vehicles proven in war
call me when they sling an M2 on the Atlas
>>23376580i like the design though D:
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>>23376592I'm sure they'll be there soon. The dog is already starting to show up places.
>iterations of vehicles proven in warMeaningless.
>>23376580>shieldWhy is half of the stupid thing missing?
>>23376581>>23376597>believing money laundering scam that is Boston ShitnamicsReally now?
>>23376577It's only a matter of time, in like maybe a thousand years more. No one would have even imagined that tanks would be something that works in real life but it still happened. It's the same with missiles.
>>23376581>>23376583I believe in this stupid looking retard
>>23376600Because it looks cool, retard
>>23376605That's weird because it doesn't.
>>23376560Yeah I painted a lot of warhammer miniatures and for that itโs needed for your eyes to pick up the detail from any distance but a model kit already has this so I donโt think the panel lining is needed typically. I think it looks ugly unless itโs done really lightly. But at that point itโs really more of a weathering since you are still painting grime or dust into the recessed areas.
I do think though if you do the panel lining and the shading well it can still look decent but it looks decent in the way that old PS2 mechs models usually had baked lighting in their textures because they were such low polygon count. itโs a stylized look and not realistic to shade and panel line a HG or MG kit. The only things about shading and panel line lining a HG or MG that is realistic is if you are doing a weathering piece and the shading essentially doubles as a buildup of grime simultaneously. Thatโs my view on it anyway.
I donโt think guys who make model kits of cars preshade and panel line their Ferrari models or whatever. but when you are talking about anything smaller than a high grade thatโs probably getting towards miniature territory where you may need to use those visual tricks to enhance detail.
snapGODS run this thread. you will never get rid of us.
>>23376619Iโm thinking about snapping into a slimGM later this afternoon. (zaku 1 kit from Amazon)
>>23376618>itโs a stylized look and not realistic to shade and panel line a HG or MG kit.yeah that's the point. if i wanted realism i'd paint it in flat colours like those giant gundam statues in japan
>>23376603Da Vinci imagined tanks hundreds of years prior man. Metal box you shoot out of is all it boils down to and I can guarantee that thousands of other people conceived it before it happened. The benefits are obvious, the question was just how to achieve the power to move it. The benefits of bipedal machines above infantry size are of extremely questionable benefit beyond being cool.
>>23376560did you know that the way shadows are cast on an object is different when it's 144 times the size
>>23376631Well thatโs fine then, Iโm just saying why I personally donโt bother with it. back in the day a company called ARTFX made some front mission 3 figures and they also made armored core 2 figures. I think a lot of the armored core 2 figures had shading in various areas and looked pretty good and I liked them because they looked more like a videogame asset that way and gave them some charm. Not sure if they did that on any of the front mission figures but some of the non metallic armored core figures they made in flat colors like grey or green had shading in various regions like the legs. Also another one that I liked was xebec which I think was a kaiyodo sub company made a line of evangelion figures in the early 2000s. You can look those up and they shaded almost all of the Evangelion figures. even the metallic ones. So you had cool things like a golden variant of Eva unit 1 with elaborate shading on various armor panels. and the white mass production units they used an interesting purple shading technique on those. In that fringe circumstance it was that choice that made them stand out enough that I collected them because they looked more unique than the other figures. unfortunately those old xebec evangelion figures are quite fragile now but you can look at the pictures on google to see what I mean. They look much nicer than the standard revoltech figures available today.
if i do a lacquer base coat and i want to do enamel weathering and wash, is it a good idea to do lacquer clear coats between each step or should i just use acrylic clear?
>>23376637Those old Armored Core figures were extremely good. I still have my AC2AA cover AC. Kinda crazy I bought it in a plastic clamshell for like, what, 30 bucks back when? I don't know. Still look great, although Robot Damashiis definitely blow them out of the water these days overall.
>>23376637Golden unit of evangelion unit 00 with darker gold shading. Sorry just woke up. I think they also used that shading technique on the metallic red version of Eva 002 which also looked good.
>>23376639If I remember right I got mine from an EB games for like 20 something. They came out in like 2001 or something so 20.00 back then was a lot but worth it for what you were getting. I got the metallic green and dark grey zio matrix robot which was the bulky tank biped with the giant middle backpack attachments. i had a collection of about 10 of those and they were a lot of fun. Each one came with head and weapon options so technically you could squad build them and they also had alternate color ways too for part swapping. I regret selling them and I also sold my robot damashii stuff and regret selling those as well. You are correct that those are better engineered but I thought something about the old artfx armored core figures were more interesting and fun. I had 3 Leoโs and a talgeese plus the weapon pack for the damashii line and enjoyed those quite a bit. I think the reason I have a fonder memory of the artfx figures was that they looked very unique and had a lot of weight in the hand where as the robot spirits line felt look and looked more like professionally made model kits. thatโs a weird critique I realize but my impression I remember having of my gundam wing damashii figures.
>>23376636Not different enough to justify blasting black on random edges.
>>23376646In particular this figure is probably the one I would recommend the most if you ever buy more and find good second hand prices. You can see if comes with 3 head options. Tank legs. And it had 2 tank arm attachments. grabbed this image from eBay. They also made another biped in either these colors or similar colors and you could probably mix those 2 figures into a multitude of combinations.
>>23376659I didnโt have this color way but you can see what I mean that itโs most likely close enough. This figure typically came in dark grey but this green emeraude version would most likely part swap well with the tank one. this was the strength of the armored core line is that many of the parts were swappable. so you could easily get out of hand buying a lot of them since they all came with different option parts. itโs close to being a 10/10 toyline itโs only flaw is that occasionally the ball pegs on some of them are a different diameter by a small amount. Maybe one day I will buy them again..
I am no longer asking politely
I DEMAND A MG NOW
>>23376680 Needs a re/100 first
>>23376684don't you mean a FM
>>23375506It's literally Hyaku-Shiki Kai with armor parts on top. You can just take the parts off and have the Kai left over. This is the kit with the armor removed.
>HG Exia
>HG Sazabi
>MG Barbatos
All right, so they haven't given up on Gunpla at all, they were just in a restock glut somehow.
>>23376710This looks way better. A lot less cluttered
>>23376492https://youtu.be/MmnceLIVtSo?feature=shared
>mario pussy attack
>>23376714All the actual problem parts are still there. The GFF was just as bulky but didn't look cluttered at all since it kept the design simple.
>>23376728Why do chinks have to greeble shit so much?
>>23376739They don't understand less is more.
>When the shipper practice Kungfu with your box
>>23376711>Dat TickbalangKek. Does this thing even sell at all?
>>23376743>Here we have /gpg/โs order.This is what happens if you dont order from USAGS.
>>23376753Who knows I have never seen anyone buy one, the same goes for the base jabber.
>>23376753>>23376756I've always liked Base Jabber type vehicles since you can enhance the poses on your kits, but the problem is that WfM was such an underdeveloped show that you don't even want a Tickbalang to pose with any of that shit (and in many cases you don't even want any of the kits that aren't the Aerial or Calibarn).
At least with the Base Jabber there's loads of combinations of mounted units you can do, from CCA and Unicorn eras. And at HG scale you at least don't have to wait for that shit to show up on P-Bandai.
>>23376739it looks more like a model and not a cheap toy
>>23376743>tree of life tattoo
>>23376739>ChinksI'll say it again, as with all Chink injection gunpla bootlegs, it's a stolen design from JP 3D modellers/resin studios. You can literally go buy the conversion from multiple stores right now.
>>23376754>also what happens if you order from USAGS
>>23376762What else did chinks steal? Was the solomon gp02 stolen too?
>>23376759Chinese kits look like silly cheap toys inspite of the hyper complex designs. Beside Gundam wannabe robots, i haven't see original ultilitarian stuff them. They keep copying Gundam and Zaku instead of Votoms ATs.
>>23376762>it's a stolen design from JP 3D modellers/resin studiosWhich in itself is stolen from the GFF combined with some design elements from YJL
I heard Zak has an inside agent who works at customs that shits in all the gunpla boxes from Japan, so that people will order from usags instead.
>>23376766>as with allAll means all anon
>>23376773The modelling is original to the sculptor, it's not stolen from the GFF or YJL, and YJL's "design elements" are also nowhere near their own. That's a lot different than lifting the exact model. It's not like G-System wasn't putting out their own insanely intricate and greebled designs 20 years ago.
One Newtype connection with Zaku Aurelius later and my G-Self arrived!
I'll chalk the delay up to placing my order close to the 4th of July/the weekend.
My Hobby Lobby was having a 40% off sale on boxed model kits. Bad selection, but I got 3 of the Wing suits HG kits for $13, a Barbados HG for $10, and 2 Action base 2s for $6. Almost picked up a MG Gouf for $25 before I remembered this thread saying it can't hold it's gun up.
>>23376790Holy shit 40% off? Where do you live? I need to get that
>>23376711Looks that way, the long drought between them restocking shelves convinced me they were getting out of gunpla.
>>23376711>>23376793Wisconsin, but upon catching up it looks like a wide sale? Jealous of that anon as I've been wanting an RG Hi-Ni
>>23376793Hobby Lobby always has 40% off boxed model kits every other week.
>>23376798Ahh, good to know. I've only been there twice and my brother's GF texted me this sale.
>>23376619Nobody is trying to get rid of you we just want you to paint your fuckinf kits instead of just building them and leaving them as is like a child would do. If all you do is snap them together that's fine but don't act like they look good or even acceptable.
>>23376756Iโd buy a Dodai if I could ever find one
Need them to make another mg. Gunpla is getting boring.
I wish people stopped putting MGs on a pedestal for everything. So damn tiring.
just bought another pedestal for my MGs bros
>>23376830>Gunpla is getting boring.I don't remember gunpla ever being exciting. Literally the most boring stuff in modelkit hobby.
>>23376845Newfag here. Why wasnโt gunpla ever exciting?
>>23376544God this thing is peak MA mode. The shoulder/arm transformation element of the S is just brilliant design.
>>23376849>Why wasnโt normiefag franchise ever exciting?
Gosh, I hate gunpla soooooooooooooo much! And that's why I'm here and not on /toy/!
>>23376849If it isn't a vacuformed kit you aren't really modeling. Just snapshitting.
>>23376868Please, anon.
Stop saying the truth.
Aura batterer
Dunbaine
Aura shooto
Dunbaine
Attack attack attack
>>23376868>tfw want to get into vacuforming but too poor to afford a circular saw
>>23376875damn, these mfers tryna aura farm but it's a drought no cap
>>23376837nice, they're held just high enough for me to
>>23376868Where is the lie?
>>23376885a slight uppercut and he would bite off his tongue
>>23376909can't pose an mg brick into an uppercut
I think what I just want is to look at the new kit announcement and see that they made something I want for once. Iโve been a gundams fan since 2017 and the only thing they made that I wanted is re 100 shokew. Everything else is generic gundamslop or seedshit or shit from the new shows that all suck
>>23376913The only thing seems mildly intriguing from Bandai so far is their Yugioh line. Sure some details look like dogshit but atleast it is not another gundam sludge.
when i'm on the build i narrate everything i do in my head as if i was doing a youtube tutorial
>>23376913>the only thing they made that I wanted is re 100 shokewterrible taste
>>23376913if between the MG Mark V and the F90s, HG Hyzenthlay, Barzam II, Reben Wolf, Psyco Mark II, Penelope/Xi/Messer, Psyco Doga, Bolinoak, Gallus J, D Gundam, G-Lines, G04/05, Mudrock, super Leos, Shuffle Alliance kits, Daughtress, fuck there's honestly too many to list but if between all those just listed there isn't a single design you like then you have abysmal taste and I fucking love the Shokew.
>>23376948>90% p-bandaiand this is why I don't buy bandai anymore, the only thing that makes it to retail shelves anymore is the slop
AAAAAAAAIIIIIE GROUPBUILD EXTENSION
>>23376952works for me, I like my random gunpla deliveries every couple of months
REEEEEEE AUGUST DEADLINE.
>>23376948You see it's weird because I like a lot of those in lineart form and then you turn them into HGs and they just look like shitty fucking toys
I think I might just not like model kits idk
Here's your Messer variant
>>23376963bro thinks he in megaman
bro holding light punch to buster
>>23376560That's an ancient shitpost you've dug up
>>23376963It would be hilarious if this is what bandai releases for the new movie.
>>23376980It is a release for the new movie explicitly.
>>23376987Thatโs hilarious
>>23376991It's basically just an F02 reprint with a bonus.
>>23376996I saw someone comment that it looked like the rear skirt might have improved articulation, but I canโt tell as I donโt own the kit
>>23377003The dengeki article mentions it has new rear skirt pieces with improved articulation yeah. Hopefully that means they're on a better joint, since they're on the fiddlier side.
Does using different brands of primer effective on kits?
Guys how many of us like wing zero tv better than ew?
Wing zero ew is so normiecore it seems us tvgods are in small numbers
>>23377006Every single tv design looks better than its ew counterpart,
>>23376987This and nothing else.
>>23377011We'll get a recoloured Xi too
>>23377006I like EW Wing Zero more than Wing Zero TV. I only like Wing Zero TV if its the chunky Zero
before katoki added all his bullshit, Wing Zero TV was just another shitty Gundam with retarded transformation to jet mode with retarded contorting knees. Wing Zero EW, however was radical. the very first Gundam with angel-like wings as its backpack/wings. its never seen before on a Gundam, and best of it all, the design works.
>>23377013Why are there so many gundams that are just another shitty gundams? I feel like most of the 90s up through AGE we were getting those.
>>23377012Bandai also made up a new equipment pack for Odysseus to replace the Penelope so you can be sure they'll shoehorn that in as well
>>23377019Argos has been a thing for ages. I imagine it'll be an MSV instead of put into any of the movies but who knows.
What are the kits that show up in linkin park's somewhere I belong video?
Snapgods, when are they going to give us our Mastergrade SD sets? We have waited long enough! We deserve SD sets complete with moveable innerframes and proper part separation!!! Did Bandai forget about usโฆ.?? The SD audience?????
>>23377022Theyโre from stardust memory. Ironically I think they were snapbuilt so Chester was one of us. Shitposting aside I miss that era we didnโt realize how good we had it with fun edgy rock music crossing over with solid IPs. I remember halo 2 had breaking Benjamin in it and that singer was a legit halo fan.
>>23376963>Its actually fucking real.Hathaway 2 gunna be gud.
>>23373984Sub-arms are complete and painted, just need a couple more details hand painted in. Next, I'll tackle the wings which I want to make extend outward.
>>23376963>>23377032Penis-Bandai, or normal release?
>>23377041Peebs of course
>>23377041That kind of photography is for P-Bandai. Retail uses either white or black background.
>>23377041>Penis-BandaiLmfao
>>23377041You know oddly enough, this is the first time Im seeing a shield that has machine guns built into it.
Are there any examples of cloaks that look good and how to achieve those results?
>>23373984Doing one of those 30MM AC kits by Bandai. I was trying to do a light wash of brown, but it came out looking like it fell in a puddle so I'm stripping it off and leaving it around the edges.
>>23377065It's pretty much lifted 1 to 1 from the GM Guard Custom
>>23377065Gyan's needle launchers really might as well be machineguns.
>>23377022GP01 Full Burnern, Sazabi & Wing Zero. Not sure what kind of kits it was
>>23377110Looks like the sazabi is a MSIA(you can tell by the grey front skirt vent and yellow marking). If I had to guess, the others are probably something similar. I had the sazabi and wing zero as a kid.
>>23373984Resuming work on my RG Wing Zero Custom (one of three or four simultaneously incomplete projects). After agonizing over how to properly do this, I finally decided fuck it and went at it with a pin vise (punching a small hole in my mat in the process) and then gouged the rest with my hobby knife. Went a lot better than I expected, and at such a small scale I'm not going to aim for perfection. Good enough is good enough, especially after it's painted, and nobody's going to look that closely anyway.
When did you realize RGs compromise proportions for the sake of color separation and greeble?
>>23377124when did you realize posting stupid shit for (you)s was what gave you giggles?
>>23377025I think I read they were Mike Shinoda's, he had them lying in his house and brought them to the video because he thought they looked cool
>>23377083Heyy I'm building this one too! Are nubmarks bad?
>>23377110What's the kit next to the Sazabi?
>>23377032>HGMG gets nothing yet again
>>23377124I can definitely see RG having blocky shapes on models that don't really need them, they look silly and jarring most of the time. The proportion is just whatever for this line, they are Chink tier redesigns, even if you remove all greebles and panel lines, they still look off somehow.
>>23377032>>23376963>Hathaway's Flash design>it looks normal instead of being a supremely large fatass (I haven't read or watched it yet, I only know the Xi and Penelope exist)The hell
>>23377162The Messer is enormous. It's Sazabi-sized. Everything in HF is fat, and that Messer is fat too.
>>23373984Okay, you're gonna have to trust me in this one /gpg/, but I'm adding texture to the guts kit. It will look better when painted bros, trust the process, haha. The putty layer will really pull it together, lol.
>>23377137Most of the numbs are covered up very well by other pieces as they layer on. What's the real issue is that it has some ugly seam lines and lots of detail that you have to sand over to clean them up, if you wish to do so. I just decided to leave them as is because I knew I wasn't going to get it looking as good as it was.
>>23377205There's already been like 2 1/100 resin kits so it's not really that surprising. Feels overdue, actually
>>23377162Hathaway's Flash was the zenith of stupid huge mobile suits and ultimately what screwed over Anaheim Electronics because the Federation finally got tired of their double dealing and increasingly bulky and bloated MS. That's when they took a look at SNRI
>>23377205>Solomon modelThe same people that made the GP02?
>>23377168What no, it looks like a Jagd Doga, this was supposed to be a normal-sized suit...
>>23377226I mean, I love stupid huge mobile armors, I want to give the Xi a chance but it doesn't even look like it can really move. On the other hand, if I do warm up to it, I'd want to buy a kit of it and it'd be enormous... wait, there's an SD of it though!
>the company was so dogshit that it made people start taking antidepressantsGood riddance to Anaheim
So I'm looking to put together my first kitbash, using Laetitia as the base. Aside from scavenging/cannibalizing armor parts from other FA Girls, what kits are the most compatible with FA Girls? I know alot of other Koto kits can swap between each other, but I'm guessing some of the bigger kits like Hexa Gears and regular Frame Arms might have some size issues. I've also looked and there aren't any real M.S.G armor pieces outside of a few skirts, though the Metamorphose Unit Exarmor kit looks cool if it would fit well with a FA Girl. Any other suggestions on where to look?
>>23377005I normally use Vallejo or Rustoleum. As long as it says it's for plastic you should be good.
>>23377208Oh thank god about the nubs, as I use a shitty entry nipper that leaves some ugly ass marks. Thankfully I don't mind seamlines that much
>>23374435God, I love the Z'gok.
>1/144 kit only costs 1000 yen less than 1/100
I get that inflation has been a bitch between the release of these two kits but why would anybody buy the 1/144 at that price
>>23377308Because I prefer 1/144 over 1/100 and price isn't that big of a deal for everyone
>>23377317It's not even actually 1/144, it's as tall as a Sazabi despite the fact it should actually be closer to a late UC suit in height
>>23377308Money and detail are irrelevant, the former because of obvious reasons, and detail because a sufficiently skilled modeler can add them himself. What matters is the shelf space and how many cool robots you can see when you look at your shelf.
I would go even smaller if I could, maybe 1/500 if it means I can have battleships and mobile armors in the shelf.
>>23377253Im pretty sure that normal frame arms are ment to be kitbashed into fags
buster dolls are better for customizing, which is why most fags go with them, especially with treating them like dolls
govs 2.0 are pretty darn articulate for their scale
still pricey for their size
Bnnuy.
Painting and detailing tomorrow
>>23377339I expected this design to grow on me like turn A did
but over a decade later it still looks like ass
>>23377341The can't all be as good as GQuuuuuux, sadly.
Do i need to work my way up sandpaper grits if I'm going to paint anyway? I flattened a few surfaces with 400 to get the job done fast. It feels smooth to the touch, but it looks all scratched up.
>>23377332Honestly, i also want maximum kits per surface. Shit's addictive and you run out of space fast.
>>23377341Turn A is a goddamn design masterpiece and I'd consider you a tastelet if it didn't grow on you.
G-Self is an acquired taste.
>got the colours of my groupbuild's breasts the wrong away aroundfuck
>>23377253Most Koto stuff is gonna be compatible in some regard, it's all mostly 3mm ports, or stuff that can easily be made to have 3mm ports if you've got a pin vise.
>>23377344Yes, surfacer won't fill 400 grit scratches, unless you're using one of those rough primers/surfacers like mr surfacer 500. I've been lazy lately and doing only 400->800. The scratches aren't visible on finished kits. I still do up to 2000 when glueing parts together
>>23377345I prefer fewer bigger kits because more kits = more different paint needed
Lots of different tiny models means massive shelves full of paint
>>23377346It's a good design but the HG was a bit disappointing.
>loose hands>uncooperative shoulder pieces that crack (but still function fine)>can't raise the arms up that high>can't carry the gun in the way that's somehow in your pic>its ultimate attack is p-bandai onlyI love the design but help me try to enjoy the kit, also grats on owning a signed copy
>>23377357>signed copyOh that's not mine
Just quick searched "Turn A Syd Mead" haha
Yea I'd really like a MG G-Self desu
>can't carry the gun in the way that's somehow in your picIt comes with a trigger finger hand for the gun? Maybe u tried to get the gun into the regular fist.
Meant for the swords.
>>23377357wait are we talking about the Turn A or the G-Self?
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>>23377359FUCK
And I mean that it does have a trigger hand for the gun, but it can't really carry it like picrel which apparently it does in the show. But also the signed pic seems to somehow achieve literally exactly that. A review noted that issue and I couldn't figure out how to do that without the hand coming apart.
>>23377361Sorry, the HG Turn A, the G-Self looks like a cute design I wouldn't necessarily have a strong reason to own, unless I had a bunch of titular Gundams already and felt bad for skipping it.
>>23377346I like the curves and its lines in motion but western designers just can't stop themselves from covering their designs in panel lines and random greeble
>>23377359>>23377364Wait no sorry, it only has open hands and closed/fist/holding hands.
>>23377364>But also the signed pic seems to somehow achieve literally exactly that.Hm.
I wondered if that kit was the MG, but it looks like it is actually the HG. The red kit in the background should have tipped me off.
MG can carry like that with the finger articulation.
>>23377365tbf that's Syd Mead in particular
>>23377380It's probably glue. the MG can't really do it well out of the box either, it's got weak fingers
>>23375038So there was a mock up for a 1/100 Leo?
>>23377394My MG Turn A has been posed holding the rifle like that for approximately 10 years so I dunno, I think it's fine at it.
>>23377205https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4FnRGZfcZA
1/100 Kshatriya teaser
>>23376913what about the heavy metals? we got l-gaim mk2 and batshu and calvary temple comes out this month. they also made a new hg vifam, 2 dragonars, and a couple of aura battlers.
all pbandai of course, the good stuff doesn't get retail releases any more
>>23377205I want the Queen Mansa though.
>>23377510damn, a pound of putty on top and it might look pretty good
Oh nonono handfags not like this.
>>23377549Pain in the ass to get on the secondary market, never found one for less than 2x MSRP
its not fair that every 1/144 hi nu is the ugly redesign and the re/100 nightingale is a shitty glorified hg. i just want a good way to display the two together, is that too much to ask of bandai?
>>23377616Get the Volks Hi-Nu
>>23377618I'm convinced this kit doesn't exist beyond 3 photos on the internet
>>23377124Iโm going to have to compile a comparison of RG kits and their most up to date counterparts. The RG destiny looks a little stumpy compared to the HG that was released after it, the RG Mk II is also a bit shorter and more bulky in places than the HG, the RG full burnerns legs are a bit too slim, and the RG hi-nus wing binders look bulbous
>>23377624NTA, but I mean you pretty much can't find it anymore. It was made over 20 years ago. When I first got into Gundam, a number of the more prominent English modellers like Gamera Baenre and CoM had it and it's where I personally fell in love with it.
CHINKGOD KINO FROM SOLOMON
>CHINKGOD KINO FROM SOLOMON
CHINKGOD KINO FROM SOLOMON
He's been posting like this for years now. Does this guy not get tired of being a faggot?
>>23377616The RG was their chance to do the original design in 1/144 and they fucked it up greatly
>>23377653>>23377643>Mg kyshatria is impo....
>>23377653That's alot of crap they've slapped into those binders I'm curious if they included metal rods to support itm
>>23377656The queen mansa is the "impossible one" considering it's double the height of the Kshtriya.
>>23377643overgreebled chink slop, actual faithful 1/100 kyshatriya when
Getter-1 Infinitism when?
>>23377674Fuck off with that greeble
>>23377661Quin Mantha is easier than the Kshatriya. Kshatriya supports an absolutely ridiculous amount of weight on the shoulders from the 4 binders. Quin Mantha's got a way easier time supporting only one to each shoulder with far, far less intended articulation. Each of Kshatriya's is packed with shit and on an articulated 4 joint arm. Kshatriya's far harder to produce structurally.
>>23377682Innerframe was a mistake
>>23377696Tell bandai to go back to 1978 and remove inner frames from gundam then.
>>2337770385 even now I am the asshole
>>23377703>>23377706Yeah I didn't care about the exact date so thanks.
>>23377701Innerframe was not a thing until the mid 80s. Nagano introduced that gimmick in L Gaim and tried to convince Bandai to normalize it
>>23377708to be completely honest the idea of a giant humanoid robot having a humanoid, skeletal construction is not an idea anyone should glaze anyone for because it's the most obvious shit in the fucking universe. wild people can really just be like "yeah nagano invented skeletons."
>>23377708I swear I remember an episode of MSG showing the Gundam being disassembled. Or maybe that was started in Zeta but it was there.
>>23377701>>23377703>>23377706>>23377708Why arenโt there any kits that faithfully recreate monocoque construction?
>>23377726MG G04 and MG G05
>>23377711I don't know if some anon's legitimately think that these robots are hollow empty shells or if they are just so brainrotted by their internet shitposting for 20 years that they don't realize what they're saying.
>>23377364I got this HG second-hand to fix it up a bit. Figured I might as well pose it while itโs sat on the desk waiting and this was exactly the first pose I thought to do. Just jam the regular hand fingers half through the handle then slap the thumb half on. Genuinely donโt see the issue?
Who here is going to get the Axis Model Works - Osiris Aerial Dominator?
>>23377616Just buy the RG and stick this chinese head on it.
>>23377786>550 yuan msrp in china>200+ USD in the states after tariffs this shit will actually be more expensive than the fucking skydefender
>>23377821Holy shit 200 burgers for a fucking chink kit? I thought chinkshit was supposed to be cheap. Fucking tariffs man.
>>23377820I did that with mine but I didn't paint it in the regular colors
>>23377730>>23377711Gundam didn't really have "humanoid skeleton. RX782 and ZZ were 3 different blocks combine into a single piece, with the other 2 being remote controled. The core fighter can exist and function without the rest and vice versa. " Innerframe " was not on Bandai's mind until the 90s.
And don't let me start with what inside Brawbro and Elmeth.
>>23377836>" Innerframe " was not on Bandai's mind until the 90s.except nagano "invented" it for l-gaim in the 80s and brought the concept into zeta also in the 80s. the gundam mk2 was explained in the show as a test bed for the inner frame concept and the hyakushiki clearly has one
>>23377032is hathaway flash UC? my only uc experience was quacks and i didn't care for it
>>23377845yes. it comes after unicorn chronologically (0079->z->zz->unicorn->hathaway) but it was written by tomino before unicorn even existed
>>23377820Where can I find this in stock? Google brought me to a dead Ali express link
>>23377827Cheap for everyone but ameritrumps who didnt just vote for tarifftips, but fought tooth and nail for the priveledge of paying extra.
>>23377845>my only uc experience was quacksBait or retarded
>>23377890>Bait or retardedRight back at you fag
>>23377872piss filtered image
Going to make this out of the scraps of my 01 gundam kitbash. Looks a little wonky with the line art but the proportions seem to fit a lot better with the actual parts, besides the hands reaching a bit too far down the thighs for my liking. ordered an extra torso piece for my next buyee package.
>>23377894Quacks isnโt UC, and is worse than all UC works
>>23377910the line art images weren't sized the same. I resized them according to the hands but I'm not sure if these were made to be consistently scaled among each other
>feel like getting some painting done
>don't feel like doing prepwork
>do nothing
>>23377643ngl, I prefer hgs, but I might get this and just pretend its a closer relative of the Quin mantha.
Still keeping my fingers crossed for a resize though that seems to be popular these days.
>>23377643This seems very restrained on the greeble compared to what I would expect from the chinese. I will get this and remove more of it with putty.
>>23377936Solomon is my favorite of the chink model kit manufacturers. Their designs are very faithful to the originals without a lot of chink greeble. They are pretty much what you would expect from a modern Bandai mg. Also they donโt steal their designs from resin kits.
>>23377957They're a lot more stylized than a modern Bandai MG typically is. The closest to this is the SEED MG style, but it's still a ways past that.
>>23377960Modern bandai has lots of greebles
>>23377958my hungry ass thought it was a big slab of marble from the thumbnail
>>23377966That's specifically ver. Gyobu
>>23377966post the last 3 MGs
>>23377975>waaaah mommy spoonfeed me
>>23377981concession accepted
>>23377975Gunraid, Vidar, and Stein Ver Ka. Bonus, MGEX Strike.
>>23377957I like that they aren't afraid of a smooth surface. I'm definitely getting this one. Do you know when it releases? I'm not super well versed in kits that aren't one of the "real" manufacturers.
>>23377992I'm tempted to get one of these just so I can use the legs on a GM command.
>>23377993are we looking at the same pile of plastic because that thing's barely got a smooth surface to be found
>>23377957>Their designs are very faithful to the originals without a lot of chink greeble.The fuck? They're still greebled clusterfucks.
>>23377998It's a lot more restrained than most chinese kits.
I'm glad that despite the relative failures of kyoukai senki and synduality kits bandai wasn't deterred and came up with a non gundam poop model line
>>23378005I guess I agree but I don't feel like it by much. The binders not having smooth edges down the length of them bugs me a lot, that smooth curving flare of the original is lot with this one having a lot of angles. The funnel containers on the binders too, there's just random holes drilled and a whole bunch of geometry for no reason everywhere on them. It could definitely be worse no doubt, there's some restraint, but man there's a lot of meaningless detail and fear of smooth surfaces on display.
>>23378008I'm going to get one and try to use some putty to fix a lot of those issues. I have wanted a 1/100 kshatriya for a long time so I am willing to put in the work.
>>23378013Seems like a great candidate for it. I'm curious how well it really balances with the shoulder weight. I might get one down the line but I've got my own HG Kshatriya to get back to.
>the mg page on Dalong isn't sorted by release order anymore
Wtf!!!
>>23377997Waiting to receive mine soon. I liked it initially because it's a non gundam grunt but then the massive amount of panel lines and the chest styling left me with a sour taste for the overall design.
>>23378019You can use some putty and a knife to fill in panel lines you dont like.
>>23378008>fear of smooth surfacesIt's not just that, it's also a fetish for unneeded mechanical details. Overcomplicated inner frames, ridiculously overdetailed joints, the inside of the binders is a complete mess, just keep it simple for fuck's sake.
>>23378021I know, I'm just commenting on what I don't like about it.
>>23378018It is, it's just sub-categorized by series/era now. Which is mostly okay, if you know what you want to look for then it doesn't really matter anyway.
>>23378018>>23378028you can also just click "MG Data" at the top right to see release order in an easier list format
>>23378018>>23378028>>23378029Fuck is u on about? Its still the same for me.
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These were a *blast*
>>23378058Are these HGs? They look good. My own personal taste is that some of the decals are too much but overall good job.
>>23378062thanks man .yeah the zaku is a pbandai hg and the other is just a kitbashed gouf custom. I ususally dont decal this hard but I wanted to try it out
TorontoFriends, what happened to meeplemart? seems like they haven't restocked much at all, at last according to their site. I haven't been there in person in years though so I'm not sure.
>>23378076Contrary to what you may think, most Canadian retailers do NOT buy from Japan. Instead, they buy from an American wholesaler (it used to be Bluefin but they got bought by Bandai so now they have to embezzle stock and do other shady things to acquire inventory) and now that Dumbo's tariffs are in effect it's become even MORE expensive to restock.
>>23378062>>23378063the correct number of decals to use is always 0
>>23378084Why are you blaming trump for nobody wanting to do business in canada?
>>23378089fuck that bloated monster
>>23377711>it's the most obvious shit in the fucking universeGo back to 1979 and tell them that.
>>23378107Did you post a drawing of an inner frame to disprove inner frames?
>>23378108>inner frameAre you just being deliberately retarded?
>>23378111What the fuck do you think those inner workings are? sausages? Actually if the sausages were mechanical they would still be an inner frame...
>>23378113>springs = inner frameactual brain damage
>>23378107If I had a time machine I gladly would
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>>23378116here are your springs bro.
>>23378122Oh I see it now, no wonder Bandai made a 1:1 copy of that design.
>>23378122So my bicycle is a functional mecha?
>>23378126So you ARE retarded, huh
>>23378126this is a blue board! no gore!
>>23378129Another 1:1 copy just for you :^)
>>23378107arguably this makes more sense than modern interpretations based on the absolute bullshit 45 ton empty weight
>>23378107Sovlful. Really, all you need to make a giant robot move is some big springs, gears, belts and pulleys.
Knock knock
Who's there?
Kurofune
Korofune who?
Korofune dendrobium
>>23378128Do you know what a BIKE FRAME is?
>>23378107This makes way more sense than retroactive bullshit like
>>23378126 and
>>23378137 because the RX-78-2 has a semi-monocoque structure, the armor is part of the structural support.
>>23378122Nigger do you really see the gears mounted on the elbow armor and think that shit is supposed to be a standalone frame?
>>23378152heh, nice springs
>>23378154>standalone frameWhat the fuck? A frame doesn't have to be standalone. What the fuck does that mean. Holy shit you're not trolling you're actually a fucking bonafide idiot.
>>23378157>A frame doesn't have to be standalone.Oh so monocoque and semi-monocoque aren't real words, got it
>>23378161You're literally describing a type of frame/chassis you stupid chimp.
>>23378164>dipshit just learned to google>still doesn't know what "body on frame" iskek
>>23378166I literally own a body on frame truck you dumb retard. Along with a standard car.
>>23378108>Did you post a drawing of an inner frame to disprove inner frames?NTA but the stomach section is a literall mobile cockpit that can transform into an airfighter. It is true that Sunrise and Bandai didn't really consider Gundam and the related to have full innerframe until much later. You should also remember that human body doesn't move because of the skeleton alone, it is also due to our skin and muscles that support the movement. Penis can increase size and move up and down purely from muscles alone without any inner skeleton is one example.
>>23378169>I'm a redneck retardExplains a lot about your lack of knowledge
>>23378172I feel sorry for your mother, she must be ashamed to have a son whose personality is defined by shitposting.
>>23378170the skin and muscles attached to what, are you really trying to umm achsually humans have a semi-monocoque construction or something retarded? The point is that a humanoid robot being designed like a human is fucking easy. A human wearing armour. A skeleton with muscles attached. All inner frames. It's fucking obvious. It's as obvious as putting on fucking clothes because that's all the idea is.
>>23378178that's a lot of words to say that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>>23378178Skeletons are just Halloween superstitions, don't worry about them.
>>23378184Sure thing anon
>>23378178Robots aren't humans, that's the point of structures like unibody and body-on-frame for machines dumbass
>>23378190Google what a body on frame or unibody looks like. It's a skeleton you dumb cunt.
>>23378089Learn to read. That wasnt the problem but he did in fact make it worse.
>>23378178What about elephant's trunk? What about penis? What skeleton? You should understand that "innerframe" in the context of Gundam is a fully functional, moveable machine without relying on external grafted parts. Alot of Gundam rely on core fighter to be able to function because their innerstructures are not fully functional innerframe. MK-2 was the first Gundam to have actual " innerframe", implying that what came before it don't. And surprise surprise, it doesn't have a core fighter.
>>23378198>GoogleDid you?
>A unibody vehicle, also known as a monocoque, is a construction method where the chassis and body of the vehicle are integrated into a single structure. This contrasts with body-on-frame construction, where the chassis is a separate frame on which the body is mounted. Where does unibody = inner frame in any of the above? I know you just learned about the word 10 minutes ago but at least try.
>>23378207>Did you?I have like 50 images to show you of what the FRAME looks like but unfortunately we're at image limit so I can't post them to stop your shitposting.
>>23378208>I have like 50 imagesAnd 5 brain cells
>>23378213Come on kid, we're not retarded. You're literally using the term BODY ON *FRAME* in your shitposting.
>>23378190A giant humanoid robot isn't a human but it also isn't anything, and considering the entire thing is based on a fucking Samurai with a human face it's pretty easy to say hey that's a giant human with cardboard on them. If that's a crazy idea to you the lacquer fumes have taken their toll.
>>23378216>>23378217The Epstein files are real, sorry
Jesus christ retards. MK2 was the first to have actual innerframe. Words of god. Canon. The mechs made before it didn't have innerframe.
>>23378204Are you suggesting MS with corefighters don't have movable frames? A movable frame isn't a full unbroken skeleton. It's an inner structure incorporating the load bearing frame and various modules. Several MS exist which separate and have core fighters and movable frames. The ZZ itself has a movable frame.
>>23378217>who cares robots are dumbThen what the fuck are you doing here tourist?
>>23378217>lacquer fumes have taken their tollOh, so you were graderager all along. No wonder I felt like talking to a chimpanzee.
>>23378221This. They were balloons with nothing but air inside that ran on the magic and hopes and dreams of retarded kids forced into war.
>>23378233OYW era suits had the armor be the load bearing part containing the mechanics
>>23378226god damn you're retarded
>>23378237Actually like everything ever with Gundam this has been retconned back and forth a bit. Originally Zeon was using monocoque construction and the Feddies semi-mono, but it was said in Mobile Suit Museum:
It's hard to tell from the outside, but the issue of internal construction was radically reconsidered in the development of the Gundam. In the MS-06 Zaku, the mobile suit had an internal frame equivalent to a human being's skeleton. The essential mechanisms were attached to this frame, and then covered by an outer shell.
Instead of this endoskeletal construction, the RX-78 Gundam used an exoskeletal approach, with a monocoque frame just beneath its external armor. As a result, the armor was at once durable and resilient, and the mobile suit itself more responsive.
Because if you look at almost any Zeon suit it's obvious it can't possibly use an actual monocoque structure.
>>23378237So the armor is the frame....
>>23378223Because ZZ got made after Zeta, which introduced the moveable frame. If you know Sentinel story, Gundam after MK2 could function without their core fighter. However, whatever came before MK2 didn't have proper movable frame. That means the entire 1979 show, Stardust Memory, War in the pocket, 8th ms team, RFV are full of empty clamshells.
>A movable frame isn't a full unbroken skeletonThe first generation of movable frame were full of unbroken skeletons. Technology had to improve from that.
>>23378259Actually development of the movable frame was concurrent with corefighter technology and it took no time whatsoever for there to be bleedthrough.See: AoZ, especially the Barzam that blends the Primrose, drumframe, and movable frame.
As mentioned a couple posts up, "skeletal" construction isn't unique to the movable frame either. The movable frame encompasses a little more than that. It's an evolution of Zeon skeletal construction ultimately. They've spent much time retconning things in general because it really never made any sense for these designs to use anything other than endoskeletal construction.
>>23378076The owner sank a lot of money into a pinball/video arcade.
>>23376711Isn't this the hobby lobby in Neptune NJ?
>>23377346Turn A looks beautiful in all white
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