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>'Thunderbolt December Sky' Story Event>Event Period: 7/14 to 7/30 11:59(JST)>Event Bonus for: Mobile Suit Gundam and Thunderbolt MS>Grind stages for tickets to fight bosses for medals to roll for lottery box rewards>Obtainable SSR Io Fleming and SSR Daryl Lorenz>Limited time dev diagram for Thunderbolt suits>Limited Time Thunderbolt JAZZ Tracks from 7/14 to 8/8 12:00(JST)>'Thunderbolt December Sky' Banner>Banner Period: Until 7/31 11:59 (JST)>Mobile Suits:• Psycho Zaku (EX) & Daryl Lorenz (Support)
• Gundam Full Armor (Thunderbolt) (EX) & Io Fleming (Durability)
>Supporters:• Claudia Peer & Beehive (25%, Mobile Suit Gundam, Restore HP)
>Master League Season 2 announced to start around "late July">Boosted Tags: Protagonist, Lighting-Fast>Stage: Space>'Char's Counter Attack' and 'SEED Destiny' Banner>Banner Period: Until 7/24 11:59 (JST)>Mobile Suits:• Hi-Nu Gundam (EX) & Amuro Ray (Attack)
• Force Impulse Gundam (EX) & Shinn Asuka (Support)
>Supporters:• Bright Noa & Ra Cailum (30%, Newtype Machine, Restore EN)
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>0083 and CCA music to Thunderbolt jazz
I need to boot up TF2 again, I recall playing as scout with the jazz on the background and it slaps
>Finally one turned the Graham wannabe
God, I hope this isn't the trend from now on.
>get first FA gundam after only 7 skips on normal
>after the first fight on Hard
thank fucking god I don't have to waste tons of skips for these gems this time
anything good from the welfare? Aside from the obviously busted map attacks.
holy fuck FAG is a menace wtf
Daryl's theme is kinda good though the fuck? Why didn't this blow up as much as Io's unnamed theme?
>>23385255The gimmick of the event I guess, if only the playable ones get to keep this range...
>>23385258Yeah that would’ve been an instant sp if they kept the range
>>23385196Typically new players can't beat events in gacha
But a smart new player can probably still pillage this event for all the welfare items and free pulls
>>23385281to be fair, you don't need to clear secret expert to clean the item gacha, just clear it once in 2-3 rotations and just forget about it
>>23385281Maybe they can beat it, just not with only 1 sortie.
FAG is just on another level compared to the secret event bosses we've got in the past.
>>23385293the problem with the stage is the grunts, FAG is just extremely tanky but its damage is still quite reasonable unlike a certain someone.
SSR Heavy Gundam snuck in the new gacha
Pretty good Attacker but only 4 range/4 move
>>23385295Real, I only managed to 1sortie it thanks to Hi-v, FAZZ, SR Freedom and Wing's MAP attacks
What's the road map again? I want psycho zaku but I just went all in for nu and impulse
>>23385307SD gundam and IBO after this.
Is it worth levelling a Heavy Gundam to use in farming the event for the event bonus?
>>23385318Leveling is cheap in this game anyway, might as well
>>23385311Easy skips for me then. Cheers bruv
>>23385318It'll feel like it pays itself off in returns over the event period
Especially if you lack strong options.
You'll probably redo the hard missions after MLBing the SSR PZaku and FAG anyways
I like how both Thunderbolt and Gqx are alternate UC but the vibes are completely different with each other, it's like Lalah is in a bad mood when making Thunderboltverse.
>>23385328Thunderbolt is concentrated misery whenever Io isn't on the screen blasting jazz into the void.
>>23385311I just realized we might get UR Knight Gundam and UR Zeong Warrior for SD event
>>23385329To think the cruel arrogant jazz guy is the torture porn relief in this universe really something. His jazz really takes away all the angst.
>>23385321>>23385325Neat, thanks. Should I level some 0079 stuff too for this event? I have the GP01, G3, Val Varo and Gquuuuux levelled, should I level some others?
>>23385339Big Zam is useful for FAG Extreme
>>23385337Io is literally the only one having any fun in this whole mess, contrast him with the Zeek Cripple Squad which is misery 24/7.
>>23385339Those are all good boys for this event, and I'll second Big Zam.
>>23385339try to have all 10 of your squad members bonus'd up, the farming stage is easy enough that 3-4 MLB SSR can solo it while the rest of the underleved team members stay behind. For the boss stage just use whichever strongest suit you have like usual, no need to bother with the bonus much since it doesn't provide extra rewards.
>>23385311There's also another map event and the new tower event coming, so possible UR for series already in the game like the Deathscythe and Build Strike banner.
>>23385353I hope it's not 00 or I'm cooked
>>23385354Wouldn't be surprised if 00 is in the next 3 months, it's high in the milking rankings
>>23385358I hope it's 5 months later rather than 3, if it's base 00 and WZC limited banner during christmas, I'll take it, best case scenario for me even since I have other stuff waiting for me on December.
>>23385361It's going to be a while until we get more Builds I think, they'll probably do Turn A main story first before releasing Mai for obvious reasons
>>23385213>CCA to Seed to 0083 back to CCA to Jazz
SSR Daryl is pretty decent. As long as he's behind the wheel of the SSR Psycho Zaku.
>>23385398Perfect Gundam (TB) might end up being amazing for him.
>Exia, Aerial, Le Cygne EX dancing to the jazz
God, I wish this theme is permanent
More content? I've already got everything MLB and beat...
Why do the Thunderbolt characters look like zoomers?
>The damage on those big guns
Well, that's dissapointing. Also, which Heavy Gundam made it in, the classic version or MSV-R?
>>23385495You're not doing big damage unless you're fully attacker spec'd with a big dick EX attack.
>>23385455probably holding her back for bandit flower content
>>23385500She's not really relevant at this point, only getting a minor cameo.
>>23385502What a bizarre choice.
>>23385495https://appmedia.jp/ggene_eternal/79090787
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>>23385495It's got MSV and Origin MSD tags. I don't have the unit myself so I'm not certain, but it seems to be the unit 3 colors from MSV although it's not a perfect match. It's also carrying the custom folding shield that comes from Origin MSD and wasn't a part of the original MSV design.
>>23385509the folding shield was added in MSV-R but nowadays it's just regular Heavy Gundam gear
>>23385510My bad, I haven't read up to the latest available chapters of Return of Johnny Ridden and I saw that Origin art with the folding shield so I mistakenly thought Origin added it
I'm glad I'm done with that.
How are people supposed to beat this expert extra boss in 3 turns without UR supporters?
>>23385539stacking map attackers, you just need to make sure to at least hit Atlas to 30x HP on turn 1, you are not killing him in 2 turns
>>23385494zean is lit dawg frfr no cap
But for real though, what is Io's theme named?
god I forgot how fucking ass Thunderbolt is
We're not gonna get 3k gems this week...
>>23385560nips' taste are so fucking ass, FAG is sex tf
>>23385560Good. They'll know to never make a Thundershit banner again.
>>23385560I don't think people really like Thunderbolt that much. Deathscythe EW and Hi-Nu had a lot of people spent.
>>23385560okay, so where did we end up on the gacha pvp chart? top 20?
>>23385566the animation was pretty much just an exec's vanity project that was made while Bandai didn't have anything better to use the funds and personnel on, so that tracks
Oh god, this event really is just endlessly opening lotto boxes isn't it.
I'll probably blow all my AP opening boxes because I have a fresh account and I want all the upgrade mats
>>23385585this is honestly the best event you should hope for, it's free 20+ pulls on standard banner and most of the UR in standard is still usable to this day.
>>23385539Do you get the random extra boss if you're skipping the stage? I don't think I encountered this at all while clearing out the content
>>23385593yeah, you have to keep skipping and hope you're lucky, you got 15 days so it's only a matter of time.
>>23385593Yes, you can. If you beat the extra boss (maybe on one turn), you can skip that too. But if you feel like you're being stalked by the extra boss over and over again, take on the boss directly again if it tickles you fancy. I got pissed off enough myself seeing that stage three times on short order after one-turning just the Hard stage that I just attacked the stage instead of skipping it the third time.
the event SSRs give a 15% bonus, does it get higher when they're MLB'd?
>>23385600Yes. Forgot the exact number since I last MLB'd Blue Frame 2nd L and Gold Frame Amatsu, and they were monsters in their event boss stages.
>>23385600You can find the rest of details on the event screen
>>23385603wouldn't it be more profitable to field multiple FA Gundams rather than LBing them
>>23385606Can't do that sadly, it only uses the highest one to avoid stacking.
Anyone tried blasting two ships side by side with a different ship coming from a limited MS like the Hi-Nu? The gods of the Psycho-Frame smiled on me that they gave me a second copy!
>>23385608damn devs trying to be smart...
damn the extreme special stage got hands
>>23385631I did the post already, stop that
>>23385636sorry, didn't know you copyrighted the thought
>>23385631yeah screw doing it in one attempt, it's hard to make it in two
>>23385631You can skip the special stage now!
>makes the special stage three times harderfucking assholes
>couldn't one turn the secret expert
Maxxing my supports and upgrading a couple of ur skills
>>23385668fuck am I supposed to do if I can't do it in two runs
>>23385671You stack debuffs and pray.
>>23385673debuffs aren't going to triple my total damage
>>23385671Do the Hard version. You get enough tickets anyway
>>23385680is it more efficient to do the hard stage + special hard stage than just extreme stage without its special?
>>23385682No, mashing the highest tier is always better, you'll never trigger enough rare bosses to make up for the difference.
>>23385683Hard in 1 run gives more rewards than Expert in 2, remedial math-kun
Wow this Extreme stage is actually fucking hard, 1 rounding it is going to be difficult
Is it even possible to clear secret expert in one run with development units with them all maxed out?
>>23385741Probably, but I'm not clever enough for that.
>>23385741sure
if you have half a dozen UR support pilots
This is the worst banner we've had so fsr
>>23385794Be happy it happened early in the game's lifespan.
>>23385794You honestly consider this worse than DSH EW?
The units are at least sorta usable, what use does anyone have for a Defender that can only counter 3 range attacks?
>>23385814No one cares about meta usability except whales, TB in general is a whatever side story that got way too much money thrown its way, there's no interesting designs to care about because the only gimmick is shields on manipulator arms, meanwhile EW Deathscythe is a popular design with a huge fanbase.
>>23385814DSW EW fed my nostalgia like crazy. Love it.
I'm a UC fag but Wing and EW are still my first.
Also I always hated Thunderbolt designs.
Now when people say Full Armor Gundam they mean that stupid ass 4 shield monstrosity instead of the great Green Goodness from MSV.
And Psycho Zaku is beyond stupid.
>>23385819To be honest I kinda dig the TB designs of the mecha so I was a little interested in seeing this banner since I'd not seen TB in any capacity besides previous G Gen showcases.
Designs are clearly the standout because...well. I know the fly-by summaries of story modes in this game does some disservice to a series' actual story, but TB just...does not seem enjoyable to me. Assholes and misery abound. (Also the jazz theme I'm hearing the most just sounds like someone playing the instrument at random, very atonal.)
>>23385825I will always think of the green Grandpa when people say FA Gundam.
>>23385825Love this guy. Honestly surprised he wasn't in the base game at launch as a gacha unit or something.
I hope he comes in down the line, there's still plenty of MSV and other stuff that are old G Gen regulars that still need in. I need my Perfect Gundam down the line.
>>23385819I like the manipulator arms. It's like a Dendrobium pushed to 11 grabbing things from everywhere, it amuses me.
>>23385829TB is yet another in a long line of Zeek apologism side stories that try to make you feel bad for a group that wiped out half of humanity, but unlike 0083 it's also pure misery porn with the only bright spot being Jazzman, by virtue of Jazzman being the only one who feels alive, I genuinely couldn't muster up enough fucks to give about anyone else in the story because they're all boring, lame, sad fucks that make flowers wilt with their mere presence.
>>23385839by that logic the original fucking serious is "zeek apologism" you mouth breathing trogolodyte
>>23385839Finally someone else here who recognizes 0083 as nothing but Zeek fanwank.
I can't believe no one recognizes the Solomon fleet nuke as nothing short of Japan masturbating thinking of nuking the US.
And then dropping a colony on the US literally too.
>>23385834There's seven Grandpas to go, I just want 7th FA/HFA at some point.
>>23385843He looks like he's about to take the fattest shit.
>>23385842When are Zeeks as a whole ever portrayed positively in 0083? Kelly, Gato and Delaz are depicted as loyal and noble in the sense that they are dedicated soldiers, but theyre still zealots and the colony drop is never framed as something good.
>got a UR from the freebie tickets
>narrative dupe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxptQhsX40U
Animation showcase came out quicker than I expected.
>>23385843For me it's Mudrock. I'll whale hard for Mudrock.
It's been so long since I got a ur through premium tickets....
Damn, you guys got UR from prem tickets...?
>>23385563I've skipped every banner since Deathscythe
>>23385889I got a 4th Nu.
Any anons here holding onto tickets? I have 73 and still have more to get from the event.
>>23385861>got 7 SSR tickets from the event>get a UR>it's miorinefuuuuuuuuuuuuuck off I wanted an actual unit.
>>23385897Why?
Premium assembly isn't likely to change anytime in the near future. Like if you've been playing since day 1 then sure have a blast hording
Just hit pity on the banner. I got two FA78s at 190 pulls at the same time so figured I'd pull one more time to get a pity unit. Should I increase the limit break on the FA78 one more time or get a Daryl?
>>23385903My account seems to be luckier when using 10 tickets at a time instead of immediately, so I'm trying to save enough for pity to then dump it all at once.
>>23385908i think a new suit and pilot are worth a lot more than like 10% boost to one you already have
>>23385914I think you're crazy for sitting on 70 rolls you could plop right now and get 7 SSRs guaranteed (probably way more) for no cost to you at all
>>23385956I see you believe in the sign of Zeta.
>>23385956Hey wait a minute
Those aren't Kamiyus
>>23385956And that's not even all the Zeta variants that exist and could eventually be in-game. They really liked the Zeta in-universe, huh?
>>23385889I got 5 urs from tickets so far (one was a dupe)
Just realized the Psyco Zaku and Full Armour Gundam have both rival and protag
Honestly, best way they could've done it
>>23385889I haven't seen an SSR since 30 pulls ago, my account is damn cursed
>>23385889UR Grandpa dupe, I fucking hate this game
>>23385997I got a lb3 UR Grandpa, it put in more work than I expected from it.
When an attack lists multiple types, how is that calculated with regards to pilot stats? Does it average the stats of each type? Does it just use the highest one?
>>23385889Yes, Crossbone. Almost to 200 rolls as well and I don't know if I should pick Exia, Sazabi or Narrative
>>23386047EX attacks take the highest attacking stat of the pilot for their math.
>>23386049Sazabi+CCA Char are still really good.
>>23386049If you're lacking a UR double defender I would probably pick Narrative, especially if you have UR Hi Nu.
remember to clear the normal and hard special stage too for gemmies
>crippletron vs jazz man
Boring. I'd rather compare Luna's and Sumeragi's bust size.
>>23386123Alright this looks cool.
>>23386117Sumeragi mogs, Luna's your average anime C cup.
I can skip this shit now. Barbatos atk debuff was the mvp that kept everyone alive
>>23386149how many UR pilots?
I vaguely recall Io was framed as the "evil"er member of the rival duo, but replaying this and remembering the OVA I can't fucking picture how. He's callous but he's fighting people who are proudly fighting to maintain control over the region where they committed An Genocide on a whole civilian populace, and actually takes his idiot CO-gf to task for avoiding responsibility because something unpleasant was forced on her.
>>23386150I've only been able to pull 8
>>23386155Jazzman is the singular shining beacon of Thunderbolt.
? My 3k gemmies didn't show up in my gift box
>>23386161Sex tattoo lady is also great. Honestly everyone on the Spartan is, the captain absolutely fucks. The cripple squad and monks can jump in a volcano.
>>23386172>Sex tattoo ladywho? Don't remember anyone like that
>>23386175Bianca, guncannon pilot.
>>23386180Oh look, someone smart enough to know up to where you can have tatoos and still get employed.
>grunts soaking up everything short of EX attacks
>jazzman one shotting everything
Holy shit this power creep is ass.
>>23386216>come into thread>announce homosexuality>refuse to elaborateWhat did anon mean by this?
>>23386245Anon, he's boosted in his event.
>Big Gun's have 3100 damage
They couldn't bump them up to 4500? I was going to use sp conversion on Daryl's Zaku I but it's pathetic.
>>23386180>guncannon pilot>dope tattoos that feel thought out and not random>redheadFELDT IM SORRY BUT I MUST SIN
The only acceptable tattoos are womb tattoos.
>>23386319my favs ;3
...it's a crime there's no Roux womb tattoo art
>>23386312If I remember right, she gets a tattoo for every fallen comrade and she's running out of space.
>>23386326see, that's pretty dope. it has meaning, not something random
>>23386188She does tatoos together with her squad for bonding. Except everyone but her keep dying and she's running out of space.
>>23386180>>23386312Who are other pretty Thunderbolt girls still alive? I heard Karla died before Daryl, but I can't remember.
And since Daryl died in the manga, which means the days of this story are numbered, any guesses as to what will happen to the Feds in the final chapters?
>>23386342Io got a loli who I think is still alive?
>>23385571Top 2
The first 1 is Monster Strike that’s having a collab with Gquuux
>>23386155Maybe I'm crazy but I've always associated non-Tomino writers' Zeon apologism with the vaguely nationalist fear that if they were to closely examine and acknowledge the faults of Zeon, they'll drift too close to acknowledging Japan's crimes in WW2.
>>23386441You are reading too much into it. People like zeon because cool robots and cool uniforms.
So is December Sky like a prologue to more Thunderbolt story, then? I know as a manga it's still apparently ongoing, if close to ending, and people talk about an Atlas Gundam or some such as more content we could potentially see? Is there much else TB has they could toss in down the line?
>>23386471It's the first fifth or so I think, and the only part that's mostly shit rather than entirely shit.
>>23386441>>23386466I don't think he is; people argue incessantly over his intent with it, but at the very least Fukui appears very aware of the common ground between Zeon and imperialist Japan. Which is kind of ironic, as Tomino himself made them out as a heavily westernized aristocracy; it's later writers who really leaned into the notion of Zeon as this honorable lost cause for wayward soldiers without a lord.
>>23386471Atlas and Acguy (dunno who will roll for this), Perfect Zeong and Kikeroga Gundam
>>23386482I'm rolling if they add the Feddie Gelgoog.
>>23386471Potential units for the other animated segment:
-Atlas Gundam
-4 custom Acquys
-Guntank
-HM Psycommu Zaku
-G Fighter with gm
-Royal Guard Zaku
-Golf Custom/Flight type hybrid
-Gundam heads
-Aqua Ball
-Aqua Guncannon
-Aqua GM
-Grublo
-Goog
- and I think about Zgok
There's also the TB Zanny.
Am I supposed to care about either of these new URs, neither of them are really doing it for me.
>>23386508It's a bit of a throwaway banner before they randomly throw us another one meant to drain all of us.
I admit they're kinda lacking even in the EX attacks, but both do a cockpit POV shot in their animations that I'm a sucker for.
>>23386482>Acguythey'd probably replace it with some filler like RX 78 Cucuruz Doan/Origin ver, like GP02 banner or they could be lame and go Psycho Zaku mk.ii
>>23386486Pretty sure she is still alive. Most of Io's buddies seem to make it since he learned the power of friendship.
>>23386522I find it funny how FAG is shown to have a cool kill animation-worthy beam saber move only to never use it in this game, is it too hard to port that from genesis?
>>23386524Honestly I love his side waaaaay more than Daryl misery porn of a faction, I wish there's a place where I can read the whole thing since Mangadex croaked.
>>23386523>they'd probably replace it with some filler like RX 78 Cucuruz Doan/Origin verI hope we get the high mobility Zakus from Cucuruz Doan Island.
>>23386493That part wasn't animated so we'll have to wait and see. The battle at the SSA base does have any good picks for SSR's either, the only new strong unit (assuming they add that to the game) is the incomplete Psycho Zaku MK II.
>>23386522Meh, sounds right. Guess I'll be saving for a while then, given their upcoming plans are SD and IBO shit I couldn't care less about.
>>23386531Literally any of the gorrilion sites that scraped it. Hell, half the them have official scans of shit in addition to scanlations. English is several volumes behind though.
I do hope they do Bianca SSR justice when we get to her parts
>>23386541what the hell are you saving for anyway
>They didn't add any scouts for Thunderbolt.
Ugh, every fucking game, I'd love for other pilots to be available, it's always Io and Daryl.
Honestly can't wait for the SD Gundam event, those little guys are cute.
I got the UR barbatos rolling on thunderbolt banner and honestly I can't even be that mad because I was in desperate need for any UR 2x defender also the last beltorchika I needed to MLB support
I only have a 1LB Gundam as a defender, is it better to get Jona or Mika? I think it's better to get Jona since he can leverage Grandpa when the terrain cucks him? That said I like Barb more than Narrative so I don't know which is the better pick.
>>23386557Who the fuck else would there be for December Sky?
>>23386570There were literally 3 Zeon pilots we got unique sprites for in this event.
>>23386567Mika is a defender trying to larp as an attacker and his skills are locked to tekkadan stuff, Jona is an actual defender and any feddie suit works with him, the choice is clear, get Jona.
>>23386567Justice has been my UR defender for a while, and he's been a great asset who can fight on his own. That being said, Athrun is held back by being a single defender, so I eventually had to upgrade by getting Jona and Narrative UR.
>Shinn wants Destiny
>Luna wants Destroy
>If I refresh both of them, one of them will come back after the other is gone
I fucking hate these two so much.
>>23386592Oh fuck off, she wants Destroy?
>>23386595yeah, fucking Legend would still make sense and it's cheap, but nah, Destroy because she's feeling genocidal I guess.
>>23386596I just gave Shinn Destiny and that took all my materials AND I had to grind 20 materials. There's no fucking way I can get destroy in the next few days.
My store rank 1 diamonds...?
>>23386600yeah, not to mention the Thunderbolt event is ongoing, right as everyone is about to hit rank 5 on the new request characters, so CCA fuckers are going to start pestering you for their SSRs too, this is a cruel joke
>>23386601You get no more free diamonds, the honeymoon period is over. Pay up or grind 3 months for a 10-pull.
This event gave us 3K, not too bad tb h
I never noticed how dumb this looks
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>>23386601>>23386609Top 1 is being hogged by Monster Strike which is collabing with GQuuuuuuX.
GQuuuuuuX is unironically cockblocking Eternal from getting number 1.
>>23386645fucking retarded ass bandai shooting themselves in their foot, or is this just an excuse to not be too generous?
>>23386645So it's still Gundam, it's safe to say Eternal still has not fallen off.
>>23386651Both, knowing Bamco's track record.
>>23386642I only just noticed earlier today they have different designs between the banners, Hi-Nu has the funnels behind it.
>>23386645So what's stopping them from releasing a Gqx banner and story now if other games can use the media on their game? Might as well strike while the iron is hot. Slot the Gqx main story in SD Gundam event, make a banner of limited UR Gqx and standard UR Knight and it's free 3K jims.
>>23386645even when her tits are not the focus, they're still gigantic holy shit.
Somewhat related, UC engage is done. I only do the daily/weekly missions and that it, but the Arena is the big proof that everyone has moved on. Last year winning the first 6 tries on Monday would only be good enough to reach around 500th place, losing one and you would end at 600-700th place. I did the 6 tries, won 4 and lost 2 and I started the second day at 98th. It will probably get EoS before the end of this year.
>>23386688I mean, they could start putting Wingshit in, it's the most popular AU in nip.
>>23386688Was it that bad?
I only watched the animated cutscenes
>want the UR ticket
>playing Expert mode makes me miserable
Man, I don't want to go ultra giga optimization and meta shit.
>>23386708The UR ticket is also hardwired to give you a dupe, so if you have a UR before beating the ER Expert then the ticket will give up one of the URs in your standard UR roster.
>>23386708I feel your pain, anon. I don't think that last request is going anywhere for a while. Not unless they start introducing ways to 5 or 7-star units or something.
>>23386721I think we're going to get level 150 before more stars.
>>23386691I thought that was Seed.
>>23386770Nonono, you don't understand, Wing outsells Seed 3-to-1, that's why we got the Wings of Freedom movie last year and Seed is toiling in mediocrity with a sequel novel that hasn't received new merch in like a decade
I thought you niggas said the expert event stage was supposed to be hard? Shit was about the same as always.
^took him like a day to post this
>>23386818I haven't logged in in a week. Yes.
Holy, used all of my diamonds to get the final Hi-Nu dupe and also the other one. Blessed.
>>23386872>the first 10 pull???
>>23386878probably 20 before that bro
>>23386878did enough for a whole spark before that so yeah, not as pretty as it looks
>Beta Azieru transforms into it's combat form during the funnel attack
>They don't let you see it
Oh come on.
A stupid question but, Io or Jona?
>>23386555Not sure. Whatever catches my fancy. I just know there's nothing on the schedule that's got my attention, so there's no point wasting gems unless it's a top-tier unit like Destiny Yamato/Strike Freedom.
>>23386901Looking at both of them, I think Io is better. They're both good but in terms of stats and skills Io is actually better overall.
>>23386901Io
>>23386907Io gets to keep a perma 20% def buff while Jona needs to apply a skill. FA Gundam is also better than Narrative for obvious reasons
>>23386482Give me the funny aquatic robot, the goddamn kung-fu acguy brothers manga made me love them.
So when do we think they're going to give us the other series with launch URs? We still don't have Narrative, Unicorn, Crossbone or 08th MS Team.
>>23386968I'm guessing Unicorn will be a series and the others events. Crossbone should be a series though honestly.
I find it wild they give 00 a main story and a free UR but not Turn A
>>23386976They're saving Turn A and Turn X for a Moonlight Butterfly banner, with a SSR G-Lucifer.
>>23386978Then at least make non awakened Turn A a base game UR, Exia is NOT worth a UR space.
>>23386979Why not? It's a popular suit.
>>23386979Seethe and cope
>>23386981Not that popular to get a UR, 00 Raiser sure, not Exia.
>>23386987It's gotten a RG, a PG, new Repair versions, It's pretty popular. If you wanna whine about URs, we've got the Narrative A-Pack as one, that's the confusing one.
>>23386987Exia is literally the most popular 00 design, you have no goddamn idea what you're talking about.
>>23386987What a retarded post
>>23386979They eventually will. With how the game handles adding suits and dev trees, you'll be getting SR's, SSR's, and UR's of the same suit. Ones to grind for and ones to gacha for.
The Exia getting a UR version just means any protagonist MS can get a UR version.
>>23386987Are you stupid? Exia is popular as fuck, people were pissed back when S2 came out and the new set of Gundams weren't as cool as the S1 designs. They over corrected so hard with Exia, not only did they keep bringing it back, that thing is still active in the 00 setting, along with Dynames.
>>2338698700R is less popular than Exia. What are you smoking. Besides, it's not either or, 00R will get a UR as well when we get the second half of 00.
>>23386996Bruh, we're up to Exia Repair IV at this point.
>>23386996Where did Exia and Dynames succeeded where Kyrios and Virtue failed? Kyrios especially should've been a easy popular pick.
Who will be 0.5 anniverary UR ?
>>23387011There isn't gonna be a .5 anni, it's not a chinese game. Actual anni will be UR gquux, calling it now.
>>23387012I expect a G Gen UR honestly.
>>23387011The Forever Gundam
>>23387014GGen has a bunch of good original suits that I don't expect to see just yet.
>>23387012Half annis are more of a japanese thing bro.
>>23387016Not really. Most japanese gacha don't do them. I've been playing them since the old dark days of late 00s web gacha. Only recently have a small handful started to.
>>23387020I'll admit I didn't play that many gachas but I was playing Romancing Saga Re;Universe and they've been doing it since 2019 and that was before the chinese games got popular.
Think we'll get Barbatos (Forma de G Gen) in some sort of DBL's Legends Fest or something?
>>23387025probably. I bet we'll get an Overworld event or something.
>>23387026>>23387025It's honestly the only way to get these OG suits, they're too obscure for annis yet too important to relegate to mere seasonal events
>>23387010They both were destroyed by the end of S1, so there wasn't any in-universe reason to bring them back.
>>23387035eh, Exia got violated the worst, Kyrios was kidnapped by feddies, they should really take him back someday, Nadleeh only suffered a headshot.
>>23387036>>23387036Kyrios was damaged, then partially dismantled for testing, retrieving it was pointless. Meanwhile, Nadleeh was a torso with one arm, either it was too damaged by that point, or they blew it up to prevent it from being capture, ancestors taking the drive back was more important.
>>23387014>UR Halphas BoseI'd spend.
New event has me thinking how insanely silly it is for Zeon to have been developing both of these at around the same time
Captain, you're Zeon's Ace Pilot. We're developing these two experimental top-of-the-line suits for you to use, which one would you prefer?
>Alpha Psychommu Elmeth
>So amazing that apparently no mobile suit developed for the next 20 years will be able to mimic even a fraction of it's power
>Capable of creating alternate universes and ripping open destructive trans-dimensional wormholes
or
>Endless Suffering Psycho Gundam
>You have to lop off all your limbs to use it
>Goes kinda fast
>Basically like the Mobile Trace System but your ass won't look as good in the suit
GCucks is so fucking stupid but it's pretty funny to imagine there's probably an alternate universe where Lalah made Char chop off all his limbs and become a fucknugget just to pilot the Psycho Zaku and he still loses to the Gundam
>>23387153Neither one is in the same universe. Or the same universe as normal UC for that matter. Might as well just say there is universe where Char fought the neo federation's gundam gundam using his zako gundam for the same of neo zeon. Same shit.
>>23387197But for real though, what did Lalah smoke to think a world where you have to be an amputee to be an ace could save Char?
>tried rolling Hi-Nu for Lightning-Fast season
>instead ended up with Ez8 LB0 to MLB
>had to pity LB0 Hi-Nu
If only the Ez8 wasn't shit everywhere else aside from the ground. Kneecapping him like that feels so arbitrary on the devs' part.
>>23387273You should be thankful it can work in space for completely no reason even at penalty, because that isn't how it should be.
>>23387273Actually, it might be better if he is kneecapped, whenever you oneshot enemy, you DPS always strays far from your team and when it's counterattack them they will always eat shit since no one is defending them, so there could still be some use for him.
As someone unfamiliar with Thunderbolt, I was not prepared for the jaunty tune that Daryl seems to prefer, lmao.
>>23387153That collage of red-colored alt suits made me think, I wonder if Amuro got into different Gundams in these universes when he killed Char in them.
Weren't both the Alex and Pixy meant to get to Amuro at some point? Can't help but picture a montage of different red suits getting shot down or chopped up by Alex, NT-X, Pixy, G-3, Mudrock, etc.
>>23387320It's the better song by far. Io's "jazz" sounds more like someone looked up "jazz instruments" on Wikipedia and tossed them all down ten flights of stairs.
>>23387320it's not actual earrape as Io's but it's still utter wet blanket music, just like Daryl is a wet blanket character
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Luna took 200-fucking-30 AP to get 4 captures...
>>23387197GCucks introduced a multiverse
It's supposed to be the same Elmeth as 0079's, apparently
At this point it's canon that everything is canon, even if it makes no fucking sense
>>23387811anon I don't know how to tell you this but your thought process is fucking stupid
Still kinda wish something like Generation Breaks was a thing we could do here, the extra content means anyone could suddenly jump into another series's story for a time.
I guess I get it if you wanna provide clear story synopses, but it should be a bonus mode or event somewhere down the line.
>>23387811It's not. Watch the show.
>>23387811GQ is canon to itself, the only things canon to mainline UC are 0079, Zeta, ZZ and CCA, and if you wanna go even more purist the only things that are canon are 0079 and CCA, with everything else being canon to itself but not to mainline UC, though trying to use the western concept of "canon" on Japanese media thing is dumb in the first place because they simply don't give a fuck.
>>23387811>It's supposed to be the same Elmeth as 0079's, apparentlyNo, it comes from an universe where Char dies in Lalah's place during the Elmeth battle. This universe did have mainline UC aesthetics and the VAs, but obviously it can't be actual UC.
>>23387553Elle and Roux truly are the best wingwomen in Gundam.
>>23387948The only thing that's maybe form the UC is the parts used to make GQ and how it's hinted to be CCA Amuro after the axis shock
>>23388017NTA but
>he doesn't want to see Lalah die anymoreI got the vibe that it was somehow an Amuro that saw multiple iterations of this happen (basis: none) but I don't know if there's any indication of which world he'd have been from
>>23388062I just took it as Amuro being aware of what's happened in the series and deciding to step in.
>>23388066I don't really understand what happened or why, it wasn't good writing but the combination of being surprised that he showed up at all, that specific line, as well as his delivery was enough to get an emotional reaction out of me
He definitely did seem tired with the whole repeating series, I was too but in a different way.
Decided to blow my remaining ingredients 12k gems in the Nu banner to get it to lb1. Ended up getting a ton of ssr dupes and UR Striker Custom so it sort of worked out.
Do you guys empty out the item gacha pool before refreshing it or do you just grab the essentials?
>>23388094You're supposed to empty the boxes before resetting.
>>23388094These boxes have had almost nothing good in the early ones, once you get the reset rewards through the first several you might as well skip them
>>23388094These boxes seem worse than last few events. There aren't even any gold skill mats.
Why the hell is TB guncannon's beam rifle a bazooka sound? What the fuck?
Definitely as hard as anon make it out to be
>>23388409why do you sound so sarcastic?
>>23388409I can only assume anon was a total retard who failed to read and tried throwing a bunch of ballistic using SSRs at shit without realizing it had a 30% damage reduction. It was trivial with beam weapons.
>>23385202 (OP)It went on too long.
>>23388847we lost to another Gundam related shit so it doesn't count
>>23388409post your team
come on, show us
>UR Hi Nu and SSR Nightingale
Feels almost like a sin to not have them be equals in the same team.......
>>23388917MLB and SP'd, the Nightingale is super solid.
I've been thinkin about it for a hot minute, what URs do you guys want? I'll start.
>>23388925Zudah, Denial Gundam, Tryon 3, Huckebein, Turn X, Hyper Gyanko, Doan's Zaku, God Gundam and Master Gundam, especially if they somehow get a combo move.
>>23388925NT-1
EZZ
Mark V
Penelope
Every single Crossbone
Zanspine (or at least be the V ultimate, fucking please)
Double X
Turn X
Perfect G-Self
Wouldn't mind a UR Hyaku Shiki, UR Zeta and UR Qubeley MK II so I could have a full UR Gundam Team too
>>23388925Guys if Alice is this fucking busted as S Gundam(an SSR)........
Can you imagine Ex-S Gundam?
>>23388939If a UR Ex-S still has 3 attack passives AND is still an attacker I will kneel
>UR Ex-S Gundam but it's actually piloted by Alice
>>23388929>God/Master combo moveWould be an interesting way to introduce a mechanic that would definitely sell more gems IMHO.
>>23388934>Every single CrossboneI KNEEL. It'd be redundant but God above I want a UR X-2.
>>23388939All hail the new meta...
>>23388965>It'd be redundant but God above I want a UR X-2I don't think they'd be redundant at all. Just because in-lore they're virtually the same machine, games like this can differentiate between, say, X-1 and X-1Kai very easily. Apart from just making them different classes they can have entirely different weapons and skills. Solely for URs I think an X-2K and X-3 are probably likely from a two part Crossbone event, and probably as Support and Defender if I had to guess. X-1FC, Ghost or Phantom are the only other URs I could see coming from all the Crossbone entries as a whole.
>>23388975Anchor V4, X-0, X-0FCl X-11, X-13FCFM, I could go on
>>23388979I don't think any of those are likely to get URs. Anchor maybe. I don't think it'd be unlikely to not get anything past Ghost either, but who knows? I'd be interested in the Silver Snow though just from its art.
>>23388983if these are unlikely to get URs the Seerauber trio won't even be in the game
>>23388990Yeah not saying they're likely either. Just sayin if they do actually start hitting the later Crossbone stories it's the design I'd like most. Besides, who knows? Game might be running 5 or 10 years from now really.
Is it ok to raise SR pilots?
>>23389005They're mostly trash by design, limited stats and less skills and abilities. When you have the option you basically never want to use them. But you don't get that luxury in many of the Eternal Roads. You'll want to level CCA characters.
Le Cygne's full limit break animation is a thing of beauty.
>>23389005if you like them, yeah
>>23388917We'll have a UR Nightingale in the rerun, trust.
>>23389005Sure, though you likely won't be using them in harder maps.
>>23388975I guess I'm just used to Overworld where the X-1, X-2 and their Kai variants are all nearly identical, but they could probably introduce a lot more variety in Eternal. At the end of the day, I just wanna watch an EX attack where the X-2 sends a mobile suit straight to hell with the Buster Launcher.
>>23389146Debatable, it depends on skills and what you pulled. Force Guard is Force Guard, and Force Guard stops you from getting folded like laundry in Eternal Road.
>>23389149You're going to have to use story characters for CCA extreme and all the Hard maps. Depending on rolls you might have to use some SRs for MSG Extreme maybe, but I dunno we have a lot of welfares for that.
>>233891500079 has so many fucking choices it's not really fair to every other show.
Bitch wants my quebley. I only have one and it's at MLB. She's going to be waiting awhile.
>>23389171Can't wait for Amuro to ask me for a Hi-Nu,
>Last batch of tickets from the event landed me a dupe Striker Custom
Nice.
>>23389171Shinn wants my MLB Destiny and he kept pestering me about it every single fucking day it's driving me crazy
swear to god I'm gonna MLB a second Hi Nu before I can finish one Nightingale
I'm in love with my Luna. Almost rank 4 with her and so far she's been almost exclusively asking for onlyfans money.
in universe i would absolutely subscribe to her onlyfans, redheads are sex
>>2338892500 Qanta
Seravee GNHW
Brave Commander Test Type
Akatsuki - UR version features switching between backpacks, SSR will have them as different units
Dendrobium Orchis - first unit with a purge
God Gundam - first unit with a transformation upon high Tension
Stargazer
F91 Twin VSBR
X-1 Full Cloth - Harrison's F91 as SSR in gacha too
Hildolfr - version with twin machinegun rifle attack
Phenex
AGE-02 White
AGE-02 Double Bullet - yes I like AGE-02
Applesauce II
>>23388925Bael, Red Frame (including Sengoku), Mark V, NO-NAME, Seltsam, Lfrith Anavata, Hyaku Shiki, Over.On, Vidar, Astaroth Origin, Marchosias, Exia Repair IV, G-EXES, G-Bouncer.
The one true dream UR would be Red Dragonics, but I don't think that thing actually exists outside of a model kit
>this much exp just to go from level 13 to level 80
this is just silly
>>23389318Shit forgot one: Todesritter
>>23389323Don't do it anon
You get basically no benefit from an SR ship being leveled
>>2338892500 Raiser
Hazenthlay II-rah
Harute
ELS Quanta
FA-MKII
Reborns Gundam
Can't wait for the 00F event.
>>23389333Nice trips but too late
Hoping they'll make this permanent music once the event happens.
https://youtu.be/jOhSyS1_1Bc?si=ak8GJi7M3d7eacw3
>>23385202 (OP)I just started playing 2 days ago. Is there any point in rerolling? I got Sazabi, Fa support and Force Impulse.
>>23389457Getting your favorites.
>>23388437I'm not it is actually harder than Stardust Memory and I don't do Astry since I still new at the time
>>23388911Just pray you have many UR especially the support one and pray you also kill as much as goons in the first step
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>>23388911NTA but this is what I used. As long as you can kill the defenders quickly it's trivial.
>>23389664>Let's use a ship that only boost one particular unit, surely it will be enough, right?Just uninstall the game.
>>23389819If it worked it worked, he isn't the fag bitching about how hard it is after all.
>>23389350I'm a bit sad we never got any 00P content.
>>23390063honestly you'd be lucky to get any 00 content at all, I think. Bamco doesn't seem to care about it anymore.
>>23390083There was that new stuff which is stalled because I heard the 00 creator wanted to do other projects first.
>can register formations ahead of time before Master League starts
Interesting change, guess they want people's teams
>>23390152It's because last time you could sweep through teams of people still running their last season's team on the first day for easy maxxed out score.
>>23389664>>23389732>all the UR supports under the skyFigures.
>>23389732yeah the hard part is clearing the defenders in two turns, let alone one
and then dealing three times more damage to the FA than I'm capable of
fuck this shit
>>23390202Substitute them with red zeta/red gundam and Aquarius/beta(your choice) for a fully f2p alternative. Franky my zaku and TR-5 did nearly all the work and support fire was chip damage at most. Having a good UR or SPed attacker was far more important than having supporters. The destiny and big zam were basically dead weight too.
>>23390214Casval gundam can eat the mobs but it's not great against the boss's 30% phys down. Any UR attacker or a good SPed attacker with beam/special weapons should be able to deal enough to the boss though, as long as you debuff it first. If your non-EX attacks are struggling to hit use a defender with mobility down.
How do people get the 220k+ CP teams in Master League? I can only reach 190k max. Is this because I don't have a good supporter?
>>23390246have MLBd supporter and 5 top tier MLBd URs
>>23390246You don't need more than 170k to reach max score anyway.
>>23390247I did manage to lucksack my way to MLB Hi-Nu but the rest of my gang's LB0-1 suits. I don't have good supporters for my teams though.
>>23390256this already places you in top 3% of the playerbase
You think Hydra Gundam is gonna get the Mono-Eye tag?
>>23390301Did Regenerate?
>>23390307Probably not then. Always could I guess. Did Amatsu?
>>23390310Nope, but tags are arbitrary, the same suit can have different tags depending on rarity.
>>23390313They can but that's more for the later tags. Stuff like Gundam and Monoeye don't tend to disappear and reappear on different rarities.
>>23390314Best I've got is that they could retroactively add them, but I'm not really expecting them to unless we get a Mono-Eye supporter.
>>23390083I just want the lovechild between 00 and Destiny to be playable.
https://youtu.be/mfH8RfFnm7Y?si=TyrHH9NW7inKRwy0
I noticed there's an utter lack of Capture requests. Were they silently patched out because of player feedback?
>>23390420Rain has asked me to capture stuff 5 times in a row this week.
>>23390420you're just lucky
>>23390420Sumeragi's stupid drunken ass asked me to capture 5 00 units and I proceed to blow all my AP on every stage to just barely eke out the 5th unit.
>>23390586Now if only there were 00 units in the game.
>>23390711wow, you're so cool for having good RNG and/or money
>>23390711That's the CCA banner in a nutshell.
>>23390751Having any attacker UR suit maxed feels really good. Meanwhile all my lb3 UR Grandpa can boast about is having over 200k hp when backed by tag boosts and Fraw.
>finally beat FAG expert in one attempt
I can now enjoy skipping it
>>23390784wasn't even satisfying for me, all I felt was "fuck's sake, glad that's over"
MSG ER Expert clear
https://youtu.be/FQQDdd9b4I4?si=TE1gRmmieiCMKqw2
>>23390587You mean Season 2. Final quarter of the year along with the Endless Waltz stuff.
Tried the expert special with what I think is the best team I can put together considering supporters and the stage itself.
My conclusion is that if the stars align perfectly AND everything I have has 20% higher stats than it does (including suits that are completely maxed out like TR-5) I will be able to beat it.
In 2 attempts, that is.
Holy fuck what a bullshit boss this is, tanky beyond reason, dodges a third of the attacks and has a MAP attack so odds are you can't even get any extra damage from counters. Must be nice to have a dozen UR attackers and supporters that just ignore half the issues here and bruteforce through the rest.
Easily the worst event yet, if this is gonna be the standard or if the stage power creep will continue the game will be dead by this time next year and I could not care less. I'll enjoy it for what it is for now, but that's due to utter lack of alternatives.
>>23390846Yeah they gotta tone down the overtuning with stats on bosses. This fight feels basically impossible without double supporters, map attacks, and EX attack spam.
Pic related is the setup I used to clear it.
>>23390846>dodgesMobility. Down. Slap a pilot with lock on into a defender with mobility down and your accuracy woes will go away.
Did the last ML let you assemble your team a week in advance?
It's kind of ass that there are 10 slots for the CCA eternal road but only 9 F2P characters so fuck you if your luck is shit.
Work my way to make destroy for lunamaria.
>The fucking SR MA use 18 development materials, each.
Why? The SR Zaft Gundam don't need that many.
>>23390314>Stuff like Gundam and Monoeye don't tend to disappear and reappear on different rarities.Gqx say what
>>23390836I hope they pull a Destiny-CCA and give us EW and first half of S2 so I can optimize my pulls
>>23391202Not to mention they expect you to make Destiny for Shinn btw, and you need MLB destiny for the next ML or you're fucked, so that's 570 dev mats, 190 hard stage runs, good luck with that
>>23391315You know you can just use X divider or QM for f2p lightning fast defenders, right?
>>23391366Not if the only double defender you have is Rei
>>23391370If your only double defender is rei you are kind of cucked regardless, considering both barbatos and thunderbolt gundam are in tag for the whale teams. And as an aside, Rei's own zaku is lightning fast anyway, just use that. It will probably perform more or less the same honestly.
>>23391379Sadly, Rey's shafted in his own ride; the Rey Zaku doesn't come with the VPS that the Destiny or the Roanoke Windam have.
>>23391440Well yeah, it doesn't have VPS.
>>23391379You can't MLB a gacha SSR as easily as dev SSR, Destiny is practically a guarantee full upgrade if you have the time and resources.
>>23391440What's the lore explanation of G Gen giving pesky Windams VPS anyway?
>>23391440VPS is fucking useless in ML, your main threat is EX attacks and those don't give a fuck about type based damage reduction. His zaku is actually better in that regard since it has two defensive skills that actually work, although it's probably still dying in two hits regardless. His actual best suit would be impulse EX though, because a free 50% heal is gonna pull more weight.
>>23391477Windams have had PS since Destiny aired. It's been back and forth. They showed Windams powering down. It's long since been accepted as canon.
>>23391495Then why are they blowing up for no fucking reason whatsoever every time someone looks at them wrong???
>>23391489>free 50% healOnly activates when UR Shinn is the pilot, tho.
>>23391506Because Destiny was the most phoned in animation production of all of Gundam
Same reason the Impulse magically became the Strike for a frame, the Destiny had to have a ton of madeup bullshit for why it ran out of power, etc. No one cared.
>>23391510Oh, right. Forgot about that. I fucking hate how they started hard locking pilots to suits. Part of the fun of these games is swapping shit around.
>>23391513>Same reason the Impulse magically became the Strike for a frameI've never heard about this one, the fuck?
>>23391518Animation errors. Destiny's original run was full of them. Probably hard to even find the original broadcast version of Destiny now since it got cleaned up for the DVDs and then the whole remaster and all.
>>23391513at least they gave SF2 the same power down treatment later.
>>23390202Ayy you gotta used what you get as F2P players
Looking at what best fit the tags and my best support unit, looks like this season of Master League is gonna be tougher to get to the higher ranks for me.
Still, even the ranks below Master give out a pretty decent slew of rewards at the end, so no big deal I suppose.
>>23391935Getting to 140k should be simple enough, anything after that requires more brain than I'm willing to use.
>>23391617So now it's gonna be a lot harder to break 150k in the first day since everyone will already have their teams set for the bonuses
>>23392135Probably not because a lot of people are retarded. Master League's still probably gonna be free.
Really late on this, but I only noticed now since I rarely skip requests. If a character asks for a unit or large amount of captures, those aren't in the list of tasks you must complete for them on that rank, you can deny the request. This has a high chance of resetting it to something else.
>>23392225You can deny any request and get another character, what are you trying to say lol
>>23392226Yes, but that specific character will change his request from a pool of low tier requests. An example:
-Quess is at rank 5, but she asks for 4 captures. This is not one of the 3 requests that must be done for that rank. If you skip her, she'll likely ask for something else when she pops up again.
One fucking capture for Fa... 120 AP.
>Capture a "Witch from Mercury Unit" 4 times
>Capture a "G Gundam" unit 4 times
>Capture a "00 Gundam" unit 4 times
Bros? I'm going to need you to whale more for the FAG and Psyco Zaku. I want my 3k gems.
>>23392336I have yet to fail a capture request, but some can drain a lot of AP. I think I had to double dip on warship cruise once recently since I burned most my ap on the event at the start of the day
If you're not already doing it- Save the 50 AP from dailies until the last reset on character requests
Thunderbolt killed eternal...
What she gonna do with the Qubeley?
so is CCA hard ER supposed to be impossible without whaling right now or
>>23392879No? Hard is perfectly doable without whaling.
>>23392880Who you assigning as a pilot? You can barely fill a 5 person squad as is. Where the hell are all the CCA pilots and why are there only like, 4 of them???
>>23392887Just use the SR ones. Yes, they are shit. No, it doesn't matter.
>but you can't make two full teamsYou don't need two full teams. If you happen to have a UR toss them in too, otherwise just use what you got.