>Shows where he's relatively sane or taking a backseat
Zambot 3
Daitarn 3
Mobile Suit Gundam
Combat Mecha Xabungle (the best one)
ZZ Gundam
Gundam F-91
>shows he's barely even involved with
Space Emperor God Sigma
Trider G7
Wings of Rean
>shows where he's a woman-hating death cultist
Space Runaway Ideon
Aura Battler Dunbine
Zeta Gundam
Gundam: Char's Counterattack
Gundam: Hathaway's Flash
Victory Gundam
>post-enlightenment era
Turn-A Gundam
Overman King Gainer
Gundam G-Reco
>shows I haven't watched yet
Heavy Metal L-Gaim
Gaia Gear
Brain Powerd
Garzey's Wing
>>23387237 (OP)Mobile Suit Gundam still belongs in your 3rd category.
Threads where OP is a misinformed autist:
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>>23387237 (OP)>shows I haven't watched yet>Gaia GearBot posting is worst posting
>>23387237 (OP)G-Reco should be in its own โRetarded Tominoโ category
>>23387362If G-Reco had characters instead of warm bodies, it'd be way better.
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Nagano will outlive Tomino just so he can piss on his grave.
>>23387237 (OP)>shows where he's a woman-hating death cultistWhy are you faggots so dishonest
>>23387508They never hated each other. Also missinfo.
Kill yourself Zeta rager
>>23387567Nagano drops hints that he's bitter.
>>23387577Nagano is a not a reliable source of information
>>23387577There was a interview from the late 2000's with Nagano and Tomino. And the former can stop gushing over the later. So, if Nagano really hates Tomino, he is very skilled to conceal it.
>>23387577No one cares about your fanfic Wild Fang.
Tomino doesn't hate women, he's just oldschool sexist.
Tomino doesn't hate women, its just his fetish
I think Daitarn's ending was more of an unneccessary "go fuck yourself" than the shows where he kills everyone. Or at least it needed more setup for Banjo cause the previous episode before the finale was just another weekly fight with a goofy ending.
>>23388789how is it a fuck you ending? it was a nice ending set up was present although scattered throughout the show but thats typical for shows of that type
>>23388798"Relatively" is the key word. Having all your heroes become kamikazes despite half the point of the human bombs being to decry Japan's suicide tactics is dumb, but it's still not the gender politics of Zeta.
>>23388803>gender politics of Zeta.you need to stop using twitter
Zambot in the most insane shit tomino has ever done from 1st episode where like 10 year old kid that was secretly brainwashed by his gradpa kill 2 policemen all the way to the last its just chaos people only remember the human bomb episodes but its actually crazy form the start tsunami that kills rivals family the forest fire episode negotiations episode MC mentioning that he barely sleeps so on.
>every time someone portrays women realistically they're called a woman hating sexist
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>23388799Not really, there's some stuff with Banjo's issues with his dad like the one where the meganoids try to psychoanalyze him to death but that doesn't in any way lead into telling all his friends to fuck off and go home
>>23387237 (OP)Victory Gundam is pro-women he just thinks they should be mothers much like Brain Powerd.
>>23388829>you need to stop using twitterAre we going to act like Zeta isn't about gender to a degree? It's in the pre production draft you fucking dork.
>>23388865This. Tomino's women are just as warped as his men. Infact Tomino writes men to be obsessed and arc based around women too. He's just some autist into Freud. Nothing else.
>>23388892SHINZO ABE?
>>23388800And that made Mirai super wet for him.
>>23388977A lot of ideas in Zeta bleeds over from the last stretch of L-Gaim which already had a lot of "Stop manipulating women you fucking freak", and instead of taking the lead with Posaydal gone, Daba leaves to take care of his brain fried sister
>>23388892Maybe he should have told good stories instead of treating his works as overwrought blogs.
>>23388977"Gender" is a no-no word on 4chan.
>>23389192Did anyone on L-Gaim work on Orguss?
>>23388800Sleggar had a nerd radar built in
>>23387237 (OP)>>shows where he's a woman-hating death cultist>Gundam: Char's CounterattackWhat just because quess is a bitch and char wont fuck nanai?
Every n stop what you're doing right now and watch Brain Powerd
>>23389273You forgot the part where Hathaway kills Chan for saving his life and Lalah thinks human extermination is awesome.
>>23389473I don't know what hathaway and lalah being retarded has to do with tomino hating women.
>>23387577It's Tomino who got Nagano to work with Sunrise again when he made Brain Powered.
>>23389553Everyone knows there's only one 'e' in Burein Powaado
>>23389473>Hathaway kills Chan for saving his lifeTomino implied with Gundam Evolve that Chan fucked everything up
have you rehearsed your death reaction, die hard fan?
>>23387237 (OP)>1 2 3>Zambot 3hey remember that time Tomino blew that kid's head clean off with a bazooka.
it was probably way more vivid in his imagination
>>23389765Yes
"YIPPEEEEEE, YAHOOOOOO, TOMINO-SAMA'S LEGACY WON'T BE FURTHER TARNISHED BY NEW KUSOANIME HE SHITS OUT!"
>>23389831In the Gundam Evolve short, Amuro is able to use his newtype abilities to talk Quess down and after coming to her senses, she saves Hathaway. A lot of the raving Hathaway haters like to argue that Quess was just a rabid animal by the time she went out to fight and couldn't be reasoned with (hence Chan was vindicated by interfering at all). Tomino clearly didn't see it that way and by refuting the idea that Quess couldn't be reasoned with, Chan getting herself involved proved to be the worst possible thing she could have done.
>>23389914...except Amuro wasn't there like he was in the Evolve short because he says he doesn't have time to deal with children and fucks off to fight Char, so you can't just assume everything would turn out the same.
>>23387237 (OP)he is also credited in voltes v
>>23387237 (OP)>post-enlightenment eraI hope he will still add more to this saga.
>>23387237 (OP)There's just happy Tomino and depressed Tomino really
>>23388977there is vast chasm between
>gender to a degreeand whatever twitter shit you are pattoring
>>23389914Quess also hated Nani and Chan for no reason other than they were in relationships with the grown men her child ass wanted.
>>23390583Thats basically it. She just wanted the shit she couldn't have and rejected the men that were actually into herfor god knows what reason.
>>23389485It's to do with the "death cultist" part.
>>23390779But char loses in the end and you're clearly not supposed to sympathize with him.
>>23390782Lalah sympathizes with him. We're supposed to think she's right.
>>23390808Lalah is sympathetic to char because she loves him but she doesn't say she's sympathetic to his cause. She also sympathizes with amuro don't forget.
>>23390816>she doesn't say she's sympathetic to his causeShe calls him a "pure soul". That means human extermination is righteous in her eyes, like how the Ide is righteous for eradicating all humanity.
>>23390816>She also sympathizes with amuro don't forget.No she doesn't. Qwux retconned her to never loving Amuro and living only for Char.
>>23390821No the word she uses is ็ด็ฒ which means pure as in unmixed. She admires char's single mindedness and determination.
>>23390839And that's why Mineva is so morally despicable in Unicorn. Thinking it's totally fine to annihilate humanity as long as you're fixed on attaining it.
Fukui should go to the guillotine along with Tomino.
>>23387237 (OP)>Turn A is in post enlightenmentTurn A suffers from overhype in the exact same way 08th MS team does,
both decent series but the "gundam but Ghibli" and "gundam vietnam" memes devastated these shows
>>23391323that's only a problem if you read anime reviews from awful places, or engage in social media
>>23391323>memes devastated these showsholy shit you're a fucking faggot
>>23391323This post lays out a few intersecting ideas and argumentative premises that I would never consider together, and I feel a sort of pseudo-generational gap when reading it.
>>23391323I watched Turn A in full for the first time within the past year. It's definitely more than a decent show. The writing of the show has the same feel as other Tomino directed Gundam shows, but with more new age and turn of the millennium woo woo. Kanno's OST sounds nothing like a Hisaishi score for any Ghibli film. The "Gundam but Ghibli" meme does not hold up to any kind of scrutiny.
I think "Gundam but Romeo and Juliet" is more damaging to 08th MS team because the show's full of clichรฉs.
>>23390208Zeta's draft writes about women's place in the military. The increased amount of female pilots in Zeta alongside their roles as women push this forward. You saying twitter doesn't change that fact faggot
>>23392409That's every Tomino thread now. /a/ at this point has better discussion. This place is /mu/ levels of shitposters
>>23387237 (OP)Tomino doesn't hate women, he just accurately shows that it's not a good thing when they do stuff outside of what they are supposed to be doing(being mothers). He isn't even that extreme with it, he frequently shows women succeeding in stuff that should be for men, the flip side is that those women do eventually settle to be mothers before something bad happens to them, as is what happens IRL
>>23387237 (OP)>Woman HatingMaybe somewhat for Victory but even then it's often about both the sexes misusing each other.
The rest of the time he's just willing to show the full spectrum of behavior.
>>23389757>Tomino implied with Gundam Evolve that Chan fucked everything upGundam Evolve? The 3d shorts? How was he involved in making those?
>>23394153Victory is the show where's the least subtle about how important and great women are blah blah though
>>23389914The only thing Chan was guilty of, if anything, was firing too close to Hathaway. Quess was an active and imminent threat to both of them (Chan gets involved because she sees Quess brandishing her arm cannon at Hathaway's MS), and had it not been for psyco-frame magic then Quess would've killed her before Chan even fired a single shot. The Evolve short showing that Quess is redeemable doesn't erase what she was to other people on the battlefield.
>>23394157he wrote the story for evolve 5, there are no other staff listed for writer\script\story-composition\scenario role
Watched the first episode of Brain Powerd.
An OP of nothing but naked women, living robots with womb cockpits, the hint of having a protagonist be female before it sharply swerves against that...this show is indeed fucked.
Also I thought this show was made in 1995, not 1998.
Watched the first episode of Brain Powerd.
An OP of nothing but naked women, living robots with womb cockpits, there's like six different terms for what the robots are called, a completely unexplained greater conflict, the hint of having a protagonist be female before it sharply swerves against that...this show is indeed fucked.
Also I thought this show was made in 1995, not 1998.
>>23389220Hiroshi Onogi. He wrote for both L-Gaim and Z Gundam after Orguss.
Gaim isnt bad if youre already through the rest of the list.
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funny how the entire trope he's created is founded upon this
>>23392378some random factoid on zeta doesnt mean twitter politics
>>23391323>"gundam but Ghibli"thats just some bullshit from people playing telephone on twitter without wathcing turn a or ghibli
OP here, and I've watched Garzey's Wing.
I think it can be placed in the "relatively sane" category, though it's also possible this OVA is just like Wings of Rean and it's actually an adaptation of an even more bonkers light novel.
>>23395697Looks like classic Nagano.
>>23395726Turn A is more like World Masterpiece Theater