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>>23356227

--useful links--
https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/
>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entries

https://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html
>scans of some of the earlier entries

https://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/
>samples of the ongoing manga

https://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?
>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.

http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html
>another page with their stuff

https://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up
>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first one

https://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translations
>WIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entries

>>23397127 (OP)
My gundamfu is just too cool

>>23396331
>A lot of these posts are all me btw. No joke. Sometimes I reply to myself using different writing styles to pretend I'm a different anon just to get ideas out there and the discussion rolling.
>well this is awkward cause I've been doing the same thing
This is extremely concerning because I do this a lot in these threads. And if you do it as regularly as I do, then about 1/3 or more of the posts might just be us two talking to each other while also sometimes pretending to be different people. I'm not sure what to make of this, but since everyone says /aoz/ is really chill then our flavor of schizophrenia might hit just right.

>>23397127 (OP)
Latest volume
https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot80/
>>23397836
There's something to be said about the sanest general here being like that because there's only a handful of regular anons in it and solid 90% of the board doesn't care about it at all,
Either way I'd also add that I also made every previous new thread from the very beginning, including the ones where I forgot to add the title.
Seeing this thread get started by someone else is like watching a child walk for the first time.

So let's talk about the latest illustration.

Notice how the clavicle armor of the Owsla Hrair is the same as the one equipped on the Barzam II. I wonder if the FoT clavicle bit seen on the Owsla and the Gigantic Arms unit has been retconned out of existence or if this is just a different variant. I don't think it has been seen on any new ReBoot design so it might've gone the way of the old ground type feet for the Woundwort. Which I'll never forgive or forget.

Also, how is holding the Long Blade Rifle (which actually isn't a Long Blade Rifle anymore does it have a new name?)? It seems to have a bellows frame (that's what it's called right?) but where is it supposed to be attached to? Other than vaguely up it's own ass.

>>23397852
It's just the usual TR-S style missile units, we've been seeing them all over the place recently and they've been around since the start of Reboot. TR-1's seen on normal Owsla missiles are their prototype.
As for the long rifle I don't think it has a specific name but it's been referred to as an enhanced model relative to the classic blade rifle. Which does make sense, you can imagine this upgrade assumes the heat blade wasn't worth its weight and instead the barrel has enhanced cooling and beam convergence. It seems like Hazel is holding onto the handle on top, it's a light grip but it looks cool.
And the bellows frame subarm here seems to be in a compact form and only holding onto the rifle. Given its place I assume it takes the role of the simple connector the heat blade had, allowing it to attach onto the shoulder for stability in long range sniping and for storage. Given this is a bellows arm it might be equipped to transfer power and energy too, raising the rifle's output.

>>23397836
God bless you two, my schizo bros

>>23397845
>>23397836
I'm fine with this as a lurker because AoZfags have the best taste and you guys have cool things to say

I'm remiss to say it but I can't fucking stand the Owlsa type designs with the suspender looking armor and diaper skirt armor for the subarms. I like chunkiness but not when it's jutting out there like that. I don't really mind it on the GAU because it has the bulk to match the weird silouette but otherwise I really gravitate to the sleekness of TR-6 suits

>>23398387
I like it because it's so clunky, they're slapping as many upgrades as they can onto a pretty dated platform to help it keep up and to gather as much data as they can with it.

love AEUG

By incorporating Geara Doga design elements, Sexen Wolf can easily blend in with CCA-style works.

When I was looking at them seperately I couldn't shake the feeling that the Holst unit on regular Hrududu and Thethuthinnang Hrair have different details, but I compared them side by side and they are the same after all, with the only inconsistencies coming from the resolution difference. Curiously, when overlaying them they don't match the proportions exactly, but I'm chalking that up to the difference in the central structure - switching Hrududu for Hrair parts makes the whole thing a bit wider.
One thing I'm still wondering about is how do the cylindrical drum frames attach there. Based on the latest volume I'm fairly confident the boosters are connected directly onto the same latches as the wing units, but the Marasai art makes it look like it might be between them afer all. Hrududu's solo lineart leaves little room for doubt they're separate, and it looks like they mount onto the wing unit latch together with the boosters which is a bit strange to me. On Thethuthinnang Hrair it's harder to tell due to the claw units - which is the other weird thing.
On independent Thethuthinnang Hrair, the claws have their "top" sides to the left and right, whereas on the Marasai they seem to rotate and these are facing upwards. Similarly on solo Thethuthinnang Hrair the boosters look like they're beneath the drum frames, but on the Marasai it's like they're on the same level.

>>23397870
Full TR-S and ZIII designs haven't been revealed yet because they have no structural integrity, the legs are just heaps of scrap parts and greebles piled on each other until the unit can somewhat stand

>>23398706
what does ReZEL have to do with anything here?

>>23398706
The TR-S's legs are just movable-frame versions of the Hazel legs attached to Woundwort thighs thoughbeit, we've already seen this.

>>23398728
And somehow despite an inner frame they still look less stable
The allergy to clean lines in these designs is getting to much for me to handle

>>23398760
I mean honestly out of most AoZ legs these aren't that wild, they're very Mark II/Hyaku Shiki styled Hazel legs.They just have a couple of armour protrusions but nothing that weird going on, they are still structurally just Hazel legs for all intents and purposes really. Small feet though, Fujioka absolutely loves his tiny feet. It's one thing when it's the Woundwort etc with their out of the ordinary designs but I think he went a little far with the tiny TR-S (and Reben Wolf evenmore so) feet.

>>23398771
Yeah these legs are perfectly fine if you ask me. As for the feet I just approach it from the watsonian perspective: if they had to be bigger, they would be bigger; they're not so they don't need to be.

>>23398604
It's a surprisingly versatile design. I'm putting a Hazenthley II head on mine once I find one for a reasonable price.

>>23397845
I love the E-Pac revolver so much, it's so fucking silly but so fucking nuts

What's your collection looking like /aoz/ros?

I need simple, concise, straight forward yet detailed explanations on what the fuck is a
>transpack
>drum frame
>bellow frame

>>23398604
>>23398978
I hope we get a feddy reben wolf to continue the cycle of the doven-wolf family of suits being passed repeatedly between the federation and zeon

>>23399001
>Transpack
Shared backpack system between several Feddie MS models based on using the same standard connection to the torso. They can all be equipped with each other's backpacks and specialized options like cannon pack, radome pack etc.
>Drum frame
A sort of bearing made up of a driving core unit within a disk which can be freely rotated. It's simple and robust, specialized for heavy duty and durable engineering such as mobile workers. Some mobile suits use that in parts with heavy loads such as transformation systems or large equipment.
>Bellows frame
Joint structure based on OYW Zeon amphibious suits, focused on versatility and flexibility. It can collapse and extend as needed, mainly used for joining together different parts, enabling power and data transfer between them.

Mars zeon is now my favorite subfaction
Thank you, aoz

>>23399052
For me, it was the new F90 manga that made me love them.

>>23399060
whats it called? I've only seen the f90 movie nothing past that

/r/ing the opinion of the AoZ experts.

I went ahead and bought the red version on the AK TR-6 bootleg. I realize the red Woundwort only exists as the basis for the Barzam II, but if it were to be it's own unit, would it have the standard v-fin or the Pyscho Blade equipped? Do all ReZeon TR-6 units have the blade attached? What are we thinking lads?

>>23399102
It's pretty much souped up commander-use spec, and it's still rare among ReZeon's TR-6s. Gloria's unit has one and the ReHaze has a modified version, but besides that I think we only see it with the Barzam II which is a pretty rare commander unit. All the Kehaar IIs don't have them.
A red Woundy without the Blade is totally fine, and probably more likely if anything.

>>23399052
For me it was GBO2 that made me like stuff like the RF Dom

>>23399100
Seen F91 movie, you mean.
There's a bunch of manga, starting with Gundam F90 which is what introduced Mars in UC and Mars Zeon. The modern F90 Fastest Formula and F90 Cluster expand more on the entire era from post-Hathaway to F91. They focus on tying together early and late UC both with the factions and thematically, all the while referencing a boatload of side stories (including AoZ).

>>23398387
Owsla has that strange sort of flexibility to it, it can look very elegant too.

>>23398387
>the suspender looking armor
The what now?

took me a moment to realize it's the TR Barzam

>>23399107
Where's the reactor in the TR units? Vents are still in the chest but there's no backpack.

>>23399993
Woundwort has generators in the thighs and the booster pod. Heat vents don't necessarily indicate where the power output is, just an area that needs to get cooled down faster.

>>23400018
Generators aren't reactors thoughbeit

>>23400218
True that, but - like it or not - "generator" and "reactor" are used pretty much interchangeably for Gundam and Woundwort only has anything written about the generators.
I generally understand that as reactors having the generators built in with them as a single unit, with the only exception being situations where there are additional generators besides that. For example RX-78 has a pair of reactors in the core fighter, but once it's connected to the body the power output rises because the supplemental generators allow for extracting additional electricity from the reactor heat.
In terms of Woundwort all we know is there are generators in the thighs and booster pod, and logically these are reactors as well. AFAIK there's no evidence one way or another if the Primrose II has some kind of generator as well. I'm leaning towards only some capacitors or such given its size and the fact that even when intended to be operating independently it's linked with a booster pod as Hrududu II.
By comparison regular Primrose almost definitely has the power generation of Hazel since it replaces the torso where the reactors originally were and it's intended for independent use without the need for a booster pod.

>>23400239
Given Primrose II is a universal replacement for Primrose I, we can expect it has a reactor and generator inside it as well.

>>23400249
Not necessarily. It fulfills the same function, but it doesn't mean it can do exactly 1:1 same things. For example I don't believe you can slap the Primrose side binders onto it and mount a missile pod, winch cannon or thrusters onto that. Of course it has the new and refined wing binders shared with TR-S design, but due to the structure these are purged when launching the Primrose II. I imagine it could retain them if it stays in the compact form but that's not going to be flying by itself, it's typically used as part of Hrududu II.
After looking around a bit I wonder if it's a situation like S Gundam's G-Core. S has four reactors - two in the legs and two in the shoulders, meaning none of them are in the Core Fighter proper. And yet it has its own independent engine blocks. And what's more, although on its own it's focused on only its own survivability rather than combat use it can be combined with S Gundam standardized parts like boosters and weapons for independent fighting. Not unlike Primroses.
So now my best guess is Primrose II has an electricity source for its independent propulsion but it's not a full-blown reactor similar to G-Core. This way Primrose II can do what it needs to do and Woundwort's power output is still generated from the three units as stated.

>>23400334
> I don't believe you can slap the Primrose side binders onto it and mount a missile pod, winch cannon or thrusters onto that
Yeah you can. Literally anything can slap those on; see here with the Barzam just getting armpit clips to facilitating mounting the optional equipment. TR-S also uses them, so does the Thethuthinnang in the first place. If you mean "as a corefighter" then yeah, probably not, but as just a unit itself it is primarily an escape pod rather than anything else, and the Primrose II was designed specifically to fit the same dimensions and in the same places as the Primrose I - they call that out specifically because the Hyzenthlay and Hyzenthlay II share the exact same upper body components.
>After looking around a bit I wonder if it's a situation like S Gundam's G-Core. S has four reactors - two in the legs and two in the shoulders,
GENERATORS. Not reactors, generators. The S has generators in the shoulders and legs. You need to stop conflating these two things...

>>23400334
That makes a lot of sense

>>23398919
Will we get a front-facing picture of the core Hazel hrair unit within the next 10 years?

>>23400440
Much sooner than you expect , the last two volumes have been building up to its bio for the 100th volume

>>23400440
Voices on my head suggests either this Friday or more likely next Friday.
>>23400442
More like last dozen.

SEX

>hazenthley II was created before the hazenthley
can someone explain this to me please

>>23400770
Anyone who doesn't like this deserves to be thrown into a camp

>>23400816
I mean it's a very cool design but I still can't dig the OC height

>>23400806
Haze'n-thley was planned during Haze'n-thley II's development as a way of using these upgrade parts to modernize Hazel too. Following the naming convention, the TR-6 model is marked as "II" and by extension the TR-1 unit doesn't have the number. In this case don't think of them as necessarily sequential, just maintaining consistency with the pattern.
Shrimple!

>>23400840
thanks anon, i'm still new to aoz and i like seeing the little quirks of the development process like that
the confusion makes it feel more believable

>>23400844
The naming scheme is actually noted to even be confusing and inconsistent in-universe due to miscommunication, especially caused by the late-war chaos. Some of it is to explain IRL changes and clarifications, but not all.
For example, Haze'n-thley II has also been called Advanced Woundwort EX or Gabthley H

I've seen some japanese twitter discussion about [Hrududu Hrair]'s parts and how they parallel TR-6's standard parts so I tried to visualize some theories.
Some of these are obvious, like the [Hrair] nosecone-boost pod unit and [Woundwort] multi-connector boost pod or the weapon containers - which we still don't know how they differ besides the shape.
Likewise the high mega cannons are rather similar, main difference being TR-6's supporting struts. But again, we don't know enough about TR-S's version to compare them properly.
Another idea is the gigantic arm units compared to CBS. They're both composite weapons with all-range functions, TR-6 even uses them as sort-of giant arms in the [Hrairoo II] form.
Lastly the addon boosters - their functions are pretty similar, but there's a lot of differences in structure and fundamental approach, like TR-6's CBS addon boosters being built-in as a pair whereas TR-S works as two separate units.
The overall impression comes across as TR-6 taking cues from TR-S's approach - and of course both using mostly the same data as basis - leading to a somewhat more integrated and optimized designs.
Which fits the general vibe of them: TR-S is of course its own machine, but it still gives off the impression of being a [Hazel] on steroids, to the point a fair share of the gear are still fundamentally the same parts with upgrades attached. Meanwhile TR-6 is very much so a new thing, streamlining everything and involving more innovative and unusual solutions and approaches.

>>23400891
lowkey I'm more excited for the hrududu hrair volume than hazel hrair

>>23400806
In aoz a TR-6 unit with the II isn't a sequel to a suit. It's a TR-6 with option parts to replicate its combat capabilities

>>23400924
How is it replicating the combat abilities of a suit that was developed after it? Wouldn’t it be the other way around?

>>23400932
They were developed together, with [Haze'n-thley II] being the focal point and [Haze'n-thley] as a way of getting more value out of the design because it had to go against the core concept of TR Plan to appease the higher ups. Either way, they're both fulfill the role of "Gundam" in the most classic sense, as an all-purpose high spec unit.

>>23400891
Are these boosters on any sort of kit? I prefer them to the back skirts on my Haze'n-thley II

>>23400945
Nope. Best hope is for EW make a HZII bootleg and it includes the ReBoot redesign parts.

>>23400957
Between the Reboot Hrududu, Vervain, and the ReHaze, there are so many AoZ kits I'd kill to see. I wish I wasn't a snapshitting poorfag RETARD and I could make them myself

>>23400945
Nope. There are 3rd party versions like watership 4.5 but good friggin luck getting that stuff if you live in the west.
This is a pretty fancy example, but they sell the binders specifically too. Just kind of a pain to check their store.
>filename
a-anon...

>>23400816
I think the back booster pod units and the gigantic arms units look pretty bad honestly. Everything else about the Hrair is sex though.

>>23400932
If it helps it make any more (or perhaps less) sense for you, the upper body parts are exactly the same, which is what makes them Hyzenthlay really. The second the upper body parts were completed, they just needed to be plugged onto a primrose to form the Hyzenthlay. In essence, neither the II nor the I came first - they came at the same time, the second they finished production of the top fighter. It's splitting hairs whether they plugged it on a TR-6 or a TR-1 for deployment first, because it could just as well be either.

>>23401334
nitpicking really but they're not QUITE exactly the same, TR-1's structure doesn't have to account for a transformation system so the central red part is shorter and without a vulcan at the end, and "behind" that it's more or less the same structure as Primrose on Owsla rather than Primrose II parts.
Also we know TR-6 was actually deployed and used, whereas it's still up in the air whether TR-1 was built at all.

>>23401585
The TR-6 version was the suit Elliard destroyed right?

>>23401599
That + Black Hares had at least one which eventually became ReHaze.

>>23401603
A kit with Black Hares colors and the peace sign hands would absolute cinema

>>23400969
Speaking of which, new stuff from them.
Even if it's hard for us to buy at least they're cool variants to look at.

>>23401712
Black Hares Hrair in white high heels... sexy...

why do aoz kits have to be so hard to find
some of these havent been printed since 2020, all i want is a haze’n-thley

>>23401868
you can find some legit ones on ali with a relatively small markup

>>23401868
All that's left is praying for bootlegs and restructuring of p-bandai

>>23401879
do you have any tips for actually finding them on ali? i don’t know if im just a brainlet but i can never find anything i’m looking for on there, and using the image search is giving me ones that are marked up extremely high

>>23401882
hm it seems the only listing it gives now is a hzii rah with a picture of the hazenthley

We have Black Otter and Black Hares teams, think there could be other ones? What could they be called?

>>23401934
Black Dog sounds like a good name for a warcrime squad.

>>23401934
i like the back skirt swap but the feet obviously dont fit

>>23402302
That'd be a little awkward... unless that's what you're referencing, that is.
On second thought it might not be a problem at all, I can't imagine the OYW Black Dog squad still exists after the war so there's no risk of confusion. I think there's some room for interesting suit nicknames too. Watership Down itself does have a dog, but he's named, like, Bob or something. Black Hares proved we can have other inspirations with Kelderek and Holst so...
How about RX-121 Gundam [Hazel Barghest]?
Dogs from british folklore are still thematically adjacent and could be a nice theme for a black ops squad with a different vibe than Black Hares. Maybe some Psycommu research too? Getting assigned to participate in Psycho Gundam testing and following projects... a dog turning into a (Wear)wolf.
>>23402410
The skirt makes for a nice Refined Barzam link but yeah the feet are a bit silly. As much as I personally prefer this style of feet to Katoki slippers I can't deny it's hard to make other shapes work with the geta boosters.

Would I be an idiot if I got a titans teat team tattoo

>>23402527
only if you're a sperg who gets flustered if asked to explain what it is or where it comes from

but by all means, tat your teats

>>23402302
>Black Dog sounds like a good name for a warcrime squad.
just ask Sailor Moon

>>23402477
>>23402534
I wasn't aware it was already a thing. Anyways, here's their theme song
>https://youtu.be/Es4N8Hwjoac?list=RDEs4N8Hwjoac

>>23402477
Is Cerberus/Kerberos too on the nose? An [Advanced Kehaar II] with the head beam cannon and one in each arm would fit the name pretty well

>>23402617
>I wasn't aware it was already a thing.
by this point Black Dog has probably drawn the sailor senshi more than the key animators and Takeuchi combined
>>23402617
https://youtu.be/yBuub4Xe1mw

>>23402635
bit too upbeat for doing warcrimes no? Then again "Fortunate Son" is the official song for dropping napalm on farmers, so maybe upbeat is the way to go

>>23402621
umm

Hurricane is Sazabi

pt2

>>23402644
different universe, doesnt count. Besides, CE straight up has shit like GOUF and ZAKU

F91 Harrison Custom Luminae, was torn whether to do white horns or yellow horns. Yellow was more bold

>>23402645
>>23402648
>>23402652
...nonny?

F91 Lumi pt2

F91 Lumi pt3

Serpent Custom Stego

Master Gundam Stellaris

>>23402654
>>23402656
>>23402658
>>23402661
ANON

Master pt2

>>23402662
>>23402653
what's up

mods reverse the spin of every molecule of anon's body

Building Woundwort kits feel like such a fucking drag for some reason. The fact that I have a little over half a dozen of them on the backlog doesn't help either.

oops my bad wrong thread guys

What'd I miss?

>>23402686
like a dozen pics of mecha break strikes in gundam colors, no AoZ stuff

>>23402650
Fair point and even fairer point, I reckon a [Cerberus] could be fine if it's fitting. I was thinking about focusing on ones from british folklore so they're not too far off thematically (Kelderek is from another Richard Adams novel and Holst was English) but if it works it works. Also there's only a few black dogs like that with an actual name rather than "Black Dog of Northern Cockshire" or whatever.

Black Dog for Titans
Black Zog for AEUG

think the madlad might post the Hrair volume today?

>>23402772
I fear the world might not be ready.

>>23401934
Black Walrus Team

>>23402707
we can go further back and pull on some gaelic/celtic shit. Pretty sure there's some dogs there

>>23402842
that just sounds like a fetish pornstar squadron

>>23402715
Black Wog for Torrington Base

>>23402857
After they started putting high heels on their MS I wouldn’t be surprised

>>23402931
fuck you, heels on mecha are MANLY

>>23402962
Unf.
Gabthley in any form makes my heart go doki doki...
so long as it's in anything but standard colors anyway

>>23402965
I think they're intentional to evoke a cicada

>>23402979
Gabthley always felt more like a fly to me. Iirc the katakana spelling is pretty close to "gadfly" too.
But either way the problem is that it's poop-colored. Give it any other paintjob at all and it's lovely, downright kissable.

>>23402989
something like this?

>>23402994
>mwah!

Gabthley Beta is rather AoZ-coded if I dare say so myself, and a really neat design in general. Especially now that it's in GBO2 and we have a better look at the model than in UC Engage.
>Sleek legs change the impression without losing the Gabthley feel
>Claws are slightly reminiscent of Messala, conveying the connection to Scirocco
>They're a relatively simple movable frame structure attached onto the arm, could be used by other suits too
>pair of shield boosters specialized for use in MA mode
>reinforced chest plating, likely descended from chobham armor
>redesigned antennas look a bit less alien but in turn more robust and strong, giving it a bit of a Gundam vibe despite the face
>idk what's up with the Fedayeen II honestly
All in all it's a nice take on an enhanced, commander-use Gabthley variant.

>>23403045
first time seeing this thing. What's the lore on it? From a quick video it just looks like a Gabthley with sub-arms stapled onto the shoulders but no new guns or capabilities

>>23403068
The long (and short, as usual for Engage we don't have much to work with) is it's a late war commander variant of Gabthley.
Combat results proved the viability of variable suits like Gabthley and Hambrabi so they were organized into dedicated squads. Gabthley was chosen as basis for a commander unit due to its all around high performance. It has enhanced armour, communication equipment and sensors, a Fedayeen II rifle specialized in sniping and the shoulder beam cannons were replaced with shields that double as boosters in MA mode. To make up for the loss of firepower it has a pair of missile launchers on the hips.
Apparently several units were used as squad leaders in the three-way chaos at the final stages of the war and performed well.

It was mentioning here a good while back, I remember back then people noted it's a bit strange for a commander unit with the focus on armour and long range combat. There was a theory that it was especially intended for handlers of Cyber Newtype squads - well suited to directing them and supporting from a distance while having the self defence options and extra armour to ensure higher survival rates for a comparably more valuable pilot. It was just some musing though, there's no real indication of that.

>>23402686
Guy's a retarded schizo that spams dead threads with images for whatever schizo nonsense is polluting his mind.

>>23403117
See>>23402700
The guy self deleted the images too because he realized it wasn’t the right thread lol >>23402673

>>23403135
Definitely don't understand how he doesn't get slapped with bans, it's been years

>>23403088
Aren't missiles more of a short range weapon in UC? No real guidance to speak of and longer travel time than beams, so you treat them as spammable rocket pods at shotgun range. Gabthley has always been a short range MS anwyays, beween the grappling claws, the FOUR beam sabers (for some reason), and the shoulder guns meant for firing on the unlucky fucker you're grappling. All of this couple with the mobility to get up close in the first place.

>>23402772
Doesn't look like it.

>>23403349
It's sorta complicated. We're told in a few places minovsky shielding does exist that allows for guided munitions, but we pretty much never see them outside of typical engagement ranges. Warships still use them for barrages and should presumably actually be using them at longer ranges than their primary beam weapons but don't. MS largely follow micromissile approaches though yeah, with some exceptions like the Pallas Athene and Proto Stark Jegan that are hauling around warship grade missiles themselves.

>>23403367
Palace Athene is the most underrated and underrepresented MS in all of UC, change my mind. Also, despite Fujita being credited for the design, I'm like 90% sure it's a Nagano design touched up by Fujita. It's got all the right bits

>>23403395
By all accounts it's a 100% Fujita original, same as Gabthley and Dijeh.

>>23403395
It's my favourite Gryps machine, easily. I love it a lot. Wish the model was a little better but it's alright. It's such a beautiful and menacing design all in one.

>>23403349
The reliability of missiles in typical combat scenarios in UC means you should only expect to score accurate hits at short range. But nothing's stopping anyone from firing them at farther ranges like artillery, using them as a diversion or decoy, or even just as a saturation/area type attack to try to flush out enemies from behind cover

>>23403367
Oddly there will be a few random scenes throughout UC where rockets and missiles will have the ability to track and home in

>>23403395
>>23403402
https://www.gundamunofficial.com/production/zgundam.html
There's some near-final Palace Athene sketches signed by Fujita at the link. Not sure if any earlier concept art exists, or if Nagano ever had his own version of it.

>>23403426
this scene always felt weird, since the only other time missiles are ever show nworking like this in UC is in G RECO and attention is drawn to the fact that the missiles have optical seekers to do this. Could always excuse it as "minovsky density was low and the missiles have guidance just in case" but pretty much an time a battleship is present, minovsky density should be too high by default

>>23403455
There's a few other scenes. It's possible these rockets are laser or optically guided as well.

>>23403455
>>23403501
And then this scene, but it's possible the missiles were programmed to fly in a circular path rather than homing at all.

>>23403501
I always chalked these up to pre-programmed coordinates. They firing at a stationary target, there's no real "seeking"

>>23403455
You see the GP03's missiles do quite a bit of homing in 0083. WAY more in Evolve too but Evolve does weird shit anyways.

>>23403518
aren't those explicitly described as "just fire a barrage of unguided rockets at point blank and hope volume of fire does the trick"?

>>23403533
>>23403518
The first Zaku and Dom get taken out by missiles flying in a straight line, it's just the second Zaku where it's a bit iffy, the missiles are flying in curves and aren't exactly homing but getting closer, I guess

>>23403533
The animation still has "missile homing in on target" sequences between both the Neue Ziel and GP03 regardless of any description.

>>23403569
You see more of it in their fights against each other

>>23403594
It does kinda follow them but still a little odd, some are just exploding nearby like they're on a time or proximity fuse, others are passing by and missing, and only one missile each hit the Zaku and the Neue Ziel.

>>23404018
Man, they just stood there and took it huh?

>>23403367
It is a thing, but the shielding is expensive and takes up space so it's not really practical for missiles in large quantities. It is still done sometimes, Jegan's shield missiles have limited tracking ability at the cost of short range - which is fine, since Jegan is a close combat suit anyway.

>>23403455
This >>23404208 seems to apply to Zeta too. While they're generally called grenades and look like grenades, Zeta's standard loadout is short-range guided missiles, though the descriptions are a bit inconsistent.

I now have an idea why Hazentley II's backside was changed.
https://x.com/pikapika100star/status/1948351197653430724

Where is volume 100?

>>23404515
Probably some 158 hours away, the releases are biweekly at most.

>>23397127 (OP)
Never read aoz but this suit looks very cool

What are these components from the aqua Barzam II meant to be? Are they just armored drum frames to attach to other parts?

>>23404906
They're torpedo launchers and grappling hook that fit in place over the normal Hrududu 2/Hambrabi II units

>>23404906
They're the usual wing/shoulder units with extra attachments on front covering them. The main body of each contains 4 micro missiles and below that is a hand anchor, Aqua GM style.

>>23404926
>>23404927
Does the aqua hambrabi II have any applications outside of water combat? Or at that point, would the standard hambrabi II be used instead? The wiki mentions it has air and land combat capabilities and can respond to different local battle situations by swapping gear

>>23397845
Thinking about it, the Owsla Psychoblade reminds me of these sketches from FoT.
Also say hi Hazel with four horns.

>>23404964
It is first and foremost for underwater use but can still be used in any kind of amphibious environment - Aqua Haze'n-thley II in particular was used for combat on the water's surface instead. Though Aqua Hambrabi II by itself can't isn't gonna crawl or fly of course. Swapping gear would mean switch to normal Hambrabi II rather than the specialized gear here. That one is a space fighter more than anything. Though it should be usable in the atmosphere for all we know there could be some other variant that is specialized in that. Maybe using Kehaar II parts?

>>23404964
Technically it still has all the normal thrusters of the Hambrabi II, it merely slaps on large hydrojets (IIRC) on top of them for water propulsion units. I don't recall if the torpedo "shield" attachments that replace the winch cannons have thrusters or hydrojets, but either way it can just detach them if it wants to go to space.

>>23404984
>Introducing Aero Hambrabi II, and half a dozen volumes dedicated to it as a brief intermission before Hazel Hrair

Bandai needs to release the HGUC hambrabi II urgently

>>23404984
>>23405005
But how much of aqua hambrabi II is specialized aquatic/amphibious equipment? Are the micro missiles more like torpedoes that only work underwater? Is the rifle just a fedayeen rifle with harpoon attachments?

>>23405026
I think the regular Hambrabi II is the "Aero" version. Or maybe Tethunang (we need a nickname for this thing)

I am possibly the only person alive who prefers the back skirts of the FoT version of the Hyzenthlay to it's ReBoot redesign counterpart.

>>23405448
I'd like them if they could flip down or to the sides, I think one of the Strike Freedom variants does this with the railguns? As they are now, they stick out too much

>>23405270
Vast majority of it is just regular gear with specialized attachments like a harpoon gun in the stabilizer and Freezy Yard launchers in the boost pod. It still retains the normal thrusters, the underwater propulsion is mainly handled by dedicated hydro jet pods. The underwater shield boosters are equipped with SLCMs but the other ones are all referred to as just missiles rather than torpedos. The harpoon rifle is described as a variant of the Fedayeen IIRC but we don't know how it fits in with Sayyad rifle.

>>23405448
I prefer the FoT version too. The back skirt design really stood out to me when I first saw it. I have to admit though, the ReBoot version makes more sense and is probably easier to deal with in model kit form

Why does Woundwort look like Enact here

>>23405506
that's one of the early scrapped head designs. I don't think they're canon

>>23405448
I'm the anon who's been whining about thr flag backskirts for the last 2 threads. I didn't really mind or care about them, after all it's my favorite MS. But after building the kit I really dont like them. I really wanna see if the sleeker booster type reboot ones would look better

>>23405444
Hambrabi II is said to focus on high mobility combat and given what it's made of that seems mostly spacey to me.
Thethuthinnang is basically a separate thing that follows the TR-S system, it's not part of the "proper" TR-6 series.
As for the nickname, my favorite is "ctrl+c ctrl+v from the last time it was mentioned"

>>23405501
ironically the reboot thrusters dont actually exist in model form

>>23405448
I like them too. Especially on the MA mode

>>23405667
There's a sleekness in the old artwork that's kinda neutered on the new one.

You guys notice you can get Watership stuff on AliExpress now? I don't think you could before. This stuff is neat, but too autistic for me. I only want the Hyzenthlay shoulder pod weapons, which is exceedingly unlikely Bandai will ever give us in model kit form. That and the TR-6 ground type feet, which I still haven't forgiven or forgotten.

>>23405667
I like them because they look a lot more unique. The ReBoot design does make sense, which is supposed to be traced back to the GP03 and all, but it loses quite a bit of the charm I feel.

>>23405701
holy shit what?
huge news, thank you a lot anon

>>23405701
>Sorry, this item's currently unavailable in your location.

>>23405674
personally I like the new one more, it feels more refined and coherent

new F90 Cluster chapter is out, and the new Mobile Machine is about RF Z'gok and RF Rock (stupidly deep cut but cool). Posting it here since it's tangentially related to AoZ via TR Plan and Mars Zeon

>>23405959
Looked through it quickly, no over references to Advanced of Zeta. RF Rock's combination system is a bit reminiscent of Hrududu to me but that's to be expected when they both take cues from G-Armor and similar models.
Also fun fact late type RF Z'Gok is intended to function as a mostly independent submarine for many days, to the point the cockpit is enlarged and it may or may not include a kitchen.

>>23405444
When you learn how to say it it really isn't that bad
"Thuh-thoo-thin-nang"
Thethuthinnang
Alternatively/also just remember "e > u > i" and that they're all separated by th.

>>23405448
I think at best they look alright, but they get in the way a fucking ton on the model and seriously cause stupid problems with back equipment. If they could fold down or to the sides like the Reboot bits can I would probably prefer them, the giant vents are cool, but as it is they just frustrate me to the point I ripped them off my Hyzenthlay.

I'd like to apologize to the normal OP of these threads. Used the wrong image. I had no idea it was always supposed to be a recent reboot pic

I asked ChatGPT why the TR-6 looks so great for shits and giggles and here is what it said:

>The RX-124 TR-6 [Woundwort] is considered one of the best-looking Gundam designs for several reasons — it defies expectations, breaks design conventions, and leans heavily into a biomechanical, alien aesthetic that sets it apart from more standard Mobile Suit silhouettes. Here's a breakdown of why it captivates so many fans:

>1. Unique Silhouette and Proportions

>Slender, insectoid shape: Unlike the bulky and boxy silhouettes of traditional Gundams, Woundwort has long, thin limbs and a compact torso. Its proportions give it an almost predatory or elegant air — more like a mechanical wasp or a blade than a humanoid soldier.

>Streamlined and minimal: It appears razor-sharp and lethal, yet light — evoking speed and precision rather than brute strength.

>2. Asymmetry and Modular Design

>The TR-6 is part of the Advance of Zeta project, which is filled with experimental Titans aesthetics. Woundwort embraces modular adaptability, and its ability to transform or combine with other units (like the Hazel series) adds layers of function to the form.

>It’s both a core unit and a customizable platform — meaning its design is meant to be built upon, which fans love to explore in both official variations and custom builds.

>3. Alien, Almost Evangelion-Like Presence

>The Woundwort almost looks like it doesn’t belong in the Gundam universe — and that’s what makes it magnetic. Its sharp V-fin head is more like a crown or antenna, and the long rear stabilizers give it a mythical, almost bio-organic feeling. It's more NGE Eva or Zone of the Enders than RX-78.

>4. Color Scheme and Visual Contrast

>Often depicted in dark blues, greys, and purples, the Woundwort has a sinister, stealthy aura. The occasional orange-yellow eyes and sensors pop vividly, adding contrast that draws attention to key visual points.

>The colors also match its Titans origin — elite, authoritarian, and experimental.

>5. Mysterious Lore and Limited Appearances

>Its scarcity in animation gives it a cult following. It wasn’t oversaturated like other Gundams, so it retained its mystique.

>The design was revealed and explored primarily through model kits and manga (Advance of Zeta: Flag of Titans), making it something of a deep cut for dedicated fans — giving it extra cachet.

>6. Kit Popularity and Customization Potential

>In Gunpla circles, the Woundwort is a fan favorite due to its unconventional design and the custom build potential. Builders love it because it stands out in a display and invites creative kitbashing.

>The design also works beautifully with clear parts, LED mods, and panel lining, enhancing its sci-fi edge.

>TL;DR:

>The RX-124 TR-6 Woundwort is visually striking because it challenges what we expect a Gundam to look like. It’s elegant, eerie, and engineered like a weaponized alien, making it a standout among hundreds of designs. Its limited exposure, customization versatility, and modular mythos just add to the appeal.

The EVA comparison was a bit barf inducing but everything else sounded pretty agreeable.

>>23406352
It's HZII so all is forgiven.

>>23406352
It's okay, the general can have a little fanart as a treat.

>>23406400
>>23406402
Half extremely basic facts dressed up with fancy wording despite zero actual substance, half just complete nonsense. Yeah that's AI generated for sure.

>>23406400
>>23406402
This is nothing and pointless

yiya-g bootleg studio is making a Gelgoog III kit apparently. Plastic model kit, if it's anything like their Qubeley it will be like 1/120 and with a shit ton more details. The Qubeley also comes with a lewd Haman figure...

>>23407302
huh I thought it would be a resin kit
that's real fucking neato

Would you look at this. The AK model TR-6 comes with a longer CSB blade than the Bandai HG. Not sure if this is Hyzenthlay length though, don't feel like touching mine way up there on the shelf.

But if you are like me and hate the short length of the blade for HG Hyzenthlay II, we now have cheaper alternatives for a longer variant.

>>23407302
why 1/120? MGs are 1/100 right? weird in-between

>>23407429
yeah they're just weird like that
this is their Qubeley for the record. Not the biggest fan of the changes but it's far from the most egregious bootleg like that. It's a modified version of someone else's 3d model and they stole the design, I don't think there's a model like that for Gelgoog III so this one might be original, which is nice.

>>23407429
And for what it's worth the scale difference, while noticeable, kinda feels like it's just a larger design in the same scale. I don't think we know how tall Gelgoog III is exactly so who knows how that will end up.

>>23407432
There is actually a fanmade 1/100 Gelgoog III 3d model with the STLs for sale. Wonder if they're using that.

I hope we get back to Kelderek at some point too. There's a lot of fun ways to explore its role given it's a predecessor of some kind to GM III while also applying OYW tech in tests. Many ways to make it feel different from Aswan's Hazels. I'd love to have a better look at how the different booster options are attached to the legs given their respective shapes don't melt together as well as the original platform.
There's also the Kelderek Owsla we still haven't seen.

>>23407552
"What if the mk2 was fucking awesome?"

The stubby arms of the Woundwort looks kinda weird sometimes.

>>23408386
I think its just because the suit is like 85% leg.
As an aside: The kneeling Haze'nthley is sick as fuck but I have absolutely zero faith in my high grade being able to reproduce it.

>>23405701
region locked for me as well, god fucking dammit
vpn wouldn't help here either, they're not gonna deliver it to my country anyway

>>23408386
In fairness it's not like it's trying to have normal human proportions + it's doing the equivalent of reaching out with just the forearm here, the entire elbow section can stretch out too.

>>23408675
>>23405959

>>23408688
Didn’t realize it was already posted lol

>>23408386
>>23408394
>The kneeling Haze'nthley is sick as fuck but I have absolutely zero faith in my high grade being able to reproduce it
Seeing how much crazy engineering went into the Reben Wolf makes me want a HG Hazenthley 2.0. That thing is solid as a rock but can pose up a storm

>>23408394
>>23408768
I truly hope we never see another polycap in an AoZ kit again with how solid the reben wolf is. As for an hg hazenthley 2.0, maybe we’ll get something more similar to a 1.5 with slightly better articulation in the hg reZeon hyzenthley?

>>23408786
The HG AoZ Hizack uses polycaps in its legs and lower torso. It holds a pose just fine, but idk about future variants. The Vanargand/flightzack for instance is both taller and more back-heavy which will almost certainly need its own action base for support (think: Gigantic Arms Unit.) The arms are also held on with straight pegs so I'm a little concerned about whether or not it will be able to hold its rifle

>>23408786
there's really nothing wrong with polycaps if they're used properly, all joints get worn down sooner or later no matter what - they're still plastic on plastic.
Anyway I crave Advanced Gaplant, carnally.

>>23408768
The Reben Wolf honestly is incredible. It's among the best HGs they've ever made in many regards.

>>23407552
I'm just hoping for a kit with an updated and reinforced waist joint so it can handle all the heavy ass backpacks and great it'll get

>>23408768
well the Reben Wolf doesn't have to transform so they can focus more on articulation
and for the kneeling bit I'm pretty sure the HZII skirts aren't meant to move at all so kneeling isn't happening
the RW for instance follows the Zeta Plus school of design where the skirts are attached to the leg instead of the hips so that helps quite a bit

>>23408386
He's shortened the Hyzenthlay leg dramatically here.

>>23406400
interesting that it mentions an insectoid shape though
that's something that I thought about but never see anyone else mention
the Top and Bottom Flyers for the HZII look a lot like wasps for example
I wonder if the insect similarities are purposeful on Fujioka's part and if they are then what does it mean? I don't thing the other TR units look insectoid or animal like at all

>>23409208
There is a lot of innate insect design in everything it draws inspo from, so whether it was a choice on his part for it or not it was pretty likely to invoke it either way

>>23409197
Plus, the perspective helps a lot to sell the idea that it can kneel. From the side it'd be doing that weird Gunpla kneeling pose where the front leg has to be stretched way too forward to account for the shins being longer than the thighs.

Anyway, so ReZeon only has one Hyzenthlay II unit, right? The one that becomes the ReHaze?

>>23409230
Only one that's confirmed, but Mars's manufacturing plant might be able to make more. It's just that Haze'n-thley isn't the kind of thing you really wanna make a bunch of.

>>23409244
>It's just that Haze'n-thley isn't the kind of thing you really wanna make a bunch of.
Why not? You'd basically make a squadron of S Gundams minus the AIs.

>>23409251
Hyzenthlay's a little overspecced for your typical pilot to use to its fullest.

>>23409251
It's an all-purpose very high spec unit and that comes with difficulties in usage and simply being expensive to operate. It's a lot more effective to have specialized units when the TR-6 platform is built all around exactly that. There's a reason Haze'n-thley was designed to appease higher ups and runs counter to TR Plan as a concept.

>>23408908
that's fair, I don't have issues with most kits I've built with polycaps, but I noticed the polycap joining the booster pod to the drum frame on my woundwort tore shortly after building it. I may have just ham handed it at some point though.

I sometimes have daydreams of being a Zeta Plus pilot and engaging TR Plan machines in the upper atmosphere.

>>23409293
What I'd give to see a wing of C4s intercept a Fiver through reentry.

>>23397845
It's cure how the Defenser Nemo and GM III from TtD are referenced in the blurb, nice to see stuff from there be mentioned.
Also is it just me or has the thread been a lot more active the past week or so?

>>23409390
>Also is it just me or has the thread been a lot more active the past week or so?
some guy above admitted to pretending to be different anons in this thread to stimulate discussion

>>23409319
Or a high altitude interception between a Z+A1 and a Hrairoo or Hrairoo II? A fight between C1 and a HZII up in the stratosphere? The experimental machine vs the tried and tested one?

My God, I can't be the only one thinking this would be sickest shit ever.

>>23398545
This
FUCK Titans and FUCK ReZeon

>>23409462
We'll get our day in the sun sooner or later, there could be dozens of volumes dedicated to ZZZ, SSD and assorted AEUG mecha.

>>23409462
AEUG sucks. Generic good guy faction. Everyone else has that rotten core to give them some spice, except the AEUG. Who are just the good guys.

Admittedly they have pretty cool designs however.

>>23409487
They're a militia funded by shady private sector megacorps and are perfectly happy having Zeek remnants join in, nevermind they were making treaties with Axis. Remember who sold Side 3 to Axis in the first place?

>>23409495
Also I want to fuck Hyaku Shiki Kai

What is "Operation Shining Star"? The wiki makes a mention of it in the GM Quel page.

>>23409614
The attack on ReZeon staged by combined Mars Zeon and Titans forces, centered around retaking Inle in the underground glacier while other main facilities on Mars are hit by diversionary attacks. Most of the Inle manga up to now is about it.

>>23409621
I see. Since ReZeon is no more by F90 then I guess the attack succeeds. What happens to the Titans remnants after that though?

>>23409627
Well, they're not around by F90 either are they?
Jokes aside we don't know at this point, the manga is on hiatus and cut off at the point where they reclaimed the Inle, by all accounts the Mars arc is more or less over and the next step is the Earth arc, heading towards confrontation with SSD and the ZZZ Gundam but we don't have many details about that.
And for what it's worth recent materials (mostly F90 Cluster which is the first thing to really delve info F90 era Mars Zeon with any depth) suggest that it's more of a fusion of ReZeon and old Mars Zeon.
There's talk of a technocrat and militarist faction, with the former wanting to focus on the long haul and making a self-sufficient, sustainable living on Mars while the the latter wanted to take the fight back to the Federation. By F90 the militarist faction was dominant and Mars Zeon was committed to attacking the Earth.
To me the implication here is that after whatever happens in the rest of the Inle manga eventually the remnants of both groups had to learn to work together - Mars is a very hostile environment, limited terraforming or not.

>Federation
>Titans
>ReZeon
>Titans
>death in combat
yeah I'm thinking this is the kino route for your UC run

>>23409663
>not continuing to be an old man fighting in Mars Zeon then ending up with the Crossbone Vanguard (secret) on their way to Jupiter

There's nothing more Zeon than creating death machines and proceeding to kill ZERO Earthnoids with them.

>>23409741
Real.

>>23409746
first I'm hearing of Garden of Thorns

>>23409753
Delaz Fleet's base in a shoal zone

>>23409761
not ringing any bells

>>23409763
It was in 0083.

>>23409764
oh wait you said Delaz
my brain just read that as Dozle
well ok

>>23409746
>Zaku III RG-Type with cannon
Don't think I don't see you there little guy. When will we learn more about you?

>>23409208
Hazenthley 2 is literally a "Feddified" Gabthley, which is a fly

>>23409251
In-universe, it kinda goes against the TR plan goals of making everything just a modular Woundwort addon.

>>23409952
just make the HZII the Fuck You In Particular addon

>>23407302
>>23407437
Hopefully we can see this thing next to a Sazabi when it's out, or a Messer if it's closer to HG.
They're the closest thing we have to the GIII, sizewise.

>>23409957
That's the inle

>>23410600
Inle is the Fuck Everything unit.

>>23410610
what does that make the Psycho Inle?

Imagined Hazel Hrair with Haze'nthley II style legs and came so hard I gotta call a ceiling repairman

>>23410612
Fucker Everythinger

>>23410619
A shame this is pretty much the only pic we have of it. I wish we knew more

>>23410625
As an AEUG pilot what the actual fuck are you meant to do if you saw this at gryps

>>23410625
I don't mind it myself, it's nice to have some mysteries. Inle is already a decisive battle weapon on a scale matched by only a handful, knowing it can be further expanded and enhanced and having an example like that is interesting on its own.
>>23410635
Hope that Kamille is nearby and hope that his turbo psycho-autism is stronger.

>>23409868
Missed opportunity to shake hands with the subarms.

>>23397127 (OP)
looks like Double X on diet

>>23410614
But we don’t know what Hazel hrair looks like
>inb4 rearview, bust, El-Ahrairah, etc

Discuss.

>>23410906
Not a fan, but at least the artist didn’t do the meme of giving it heels to make it an AoZ suit

>>23410906
They made it fat

>>23410906
Downgraded in every way

>>23410906
Sexy.

>>23410906
*blocks you're path*

>>23411083
>>23411142
I never noticed the modifications to the Woundwort thighs. Wonder what's up with those?

>>23411146
For Haze'n-thley II the knee thrusters are removed to make space for the entire bellows frame-based claws with all the shit they do.
Idk why that's still the case when using other legs though.

I wanna see a rebenfied Mk V now

>>23411149
Yeah it's really weird to keep those in any non-Hyzenthlay-leg config. It's just a performance downgrade technically. Weird choice.

>>23411153
It is a pretty interesting look though, like if the normal legs were purged and had to be hastily replaced with an alternative option rather than something more optimal. No leg thruster units on hand to cover up the thighs.

What information do we have about the psychoblade custom woundwort? What’s the psychoblade actually used for if it isn’t deployed with any additional newtype-use weapons from the standard woundwort? Have we seen it in any special configurations like the aqua woundwort or the pseudo Barzam II form that was shown in promotional images when the HGUC kit was announced?

>>23397845
I choose to believe the claws are usable on the backpack solely for rule of cool.

>>23411347
>What’s the psychoblade actually used for if it isn’t deployed with any additional newtype-use weapons from the standard woundwort?
Psychic torture mostly.

>>23411347
They use it to talk to the satellite cannon in mars orbit

>>23411347
The Psycoblade TR-6 uses CSBs as bits in the manga, among other weapons it's intended to use when docked with containers and Psyco Mark II parts etc.

fanmade AOZ manga
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/133220594

>>23411439
Very nice. She looks EXTREMELY happy to see me, I can't into moonrunes, but from the pictures I imagine the story goes like
>Shota is part of the Titans
>Almost gets raped so decides to jack the Inle
>Pops out right as an AEUG fleet is about to strike
>Starts Teamkilling Titans, AEUG fires on him anyways
>Escapes on Wundy
Did I get it right?

I dislike how many lolis are in ReBoot

>>23411467
technically, some of them are shotas

>>23411467
understandable, really

>>23411462
My moonrunes are far from perfect but from what I gather the whole thing is set in UC 100 at an abandoned Titans outpost. MC is hired to be a Feddie double agent of some kind pretending to be working with the Titan remnants that are investigating the place.
He gets tired of their bullshit and steals the Inle as soon as the attack starts, planning to sell it. He tries to contact the Feddies and tell them he's a friend but they either don't get it or don't care and shoot him down while he blows up the base.
He manages to escape in the Haze'n-thley II, wondering the fuck he's gonna do with this thing all alone in space with not even a normal suit. The Feddies recover the wrecked Inle and prepare to repair it.

>>23411551
>The Feddies recover the wrecked Inle and prepare to repair it.
The Final Solution for the Spacenoid problem is at hand.

>>23411571
>inb4 80% of deployments are on Earth glassing 10 men remnant squads and tens of miles of wild land

What is the purpose of the TR-6 crotch being attached to back of some MS designs? You can see it here and on the Hyzenthlay Rah II for example.

>>23411720
In this form it's mostly just for holding extra gear (for example to assist in quickly swapping equipment) and doubling as a secondary stabilizer.
When Hrududu II is operating alone it tends to hold a ranged weapon and if attached to a non-TR mobile suit it can be used to latch onto the crotch for secure connection.

>>23411720
sometimes you need a hand itching those hard to reach places

*Thunderbolts your Hazel*

>>23411794
I like it

>>23411794
ewwwww

>>23407552
There's a lot of room for playing around with OYW gear on the suits. It's not like it's gone bad in 4 to 8 years.

It'd be cool if we could get this thread to last till Friday to start the next one with Hrair

>>23411840
>implying the next won't be another Special Weapons Volume

>>23411840
It's going to be an ass shot of a Hizack noting how the paint scrapes off when using Hrududu equipment or some minor stuff like that

>>23411852
Imagine the accompanying MS Girl art tho...

>>23411841
>>23411852
surely volume 100 will be something special, right?

>>23411921
>100
>Hyaku
It's gonna be the Hyaku Shiki cannon, using the AEUG boosters

>>23411922
You're joking but I guarantee we'll get back to them at some point, they've been referenced pretty often.

Dark History...

>>23412619
UC Engage has had far more nonsensical pilot banner pairings
I think the Fafnir from Walpurgis and Sophie from Zeonic Front was probably the weirdest

please mr bandai… reprint the hazenthley ii rah… the aftermarket prices are insane

>>23412619
Now that I’m thinking about it, if Emma did remain with the titans she no doubt about would’ve had at least one of the hazel variants being one of the proposed gundam MK2 test pilots

>>23412776
I dunno, she probably would have remained under Bask as part of Gryps or Alexandria, maybe later directly answering to Jamitov like Jerid.
Hazels were used (mostly) by test teams organised under Konpeito.

>>23412675
Its the kit I want most at the moment. I found the clear version at a local hobby shop but that's the clear one which sucks

>>23412993
ill admit i caved and bought one for $100
i figure they’re only gonna keep going up and there’s no way to tell how likely a reprint is

>>23412675
We'll probably get some AoZ reprints in the next couple of months.

>>23405959
Proper translation so I don't have to be assed with making cliff notes

why did the titans make many of their mobile suits so slutty?

>>23413193
to distract AEUG pilots and so we can self-insert as them

>>23413194
I must say I do feel represented by the femboy gundams so I approve

>>23413194
>>23413202
for me, it's the bunny girls

>>23413208
They're all futas though
More aoz designs have massive cocks than not

>>23413246
Is that supposed to be a negative?

>>23413193
If anyone asks about my potential sexual relations with the TR-6 line, I plead the fifth.

>>23413256
Hell no
>>23413259
Hell yeah

/aoz/, what's the cooler option?
>1
Assuming that as part of its modernization Pale Rider DII was modified into a Transpack System, meaning it can equip a Hazel booster pod and mount Hrududu II on that.
>2
Assuming it's mostly still OYW tech, meaning it's an opportunity to connect Hrududu II using the alternative method as shown in pic

>>23413336
Hazel Boosterpod makes more sense to me, it had numerous modernization updates to be fitting for Titans service so it's pretty reasonable to me they'd just go ahead and do that.

>>23413348
True that, it'd probably make the most sense to go like that. Maybe go all the way and give it some fancy Advanced gear akin to this art.
Though this does leave the question of what Titans-use suit WOULD be a good fit for the alternative Hrududu II connection. Besides Act Zaku and other old Zeek suits.

>>23413403
It's honestly just a consideration given to field practicality. The transpack solution requires you have the other pack on hand and is going to take more time and effort to implement than "hehe grabby claws" which gets your suit out the hanger door in minutes rather than hours.

>>23413411
>>23413411
I'm not sure if I would go that far, it's very much so intended to be a universal part. That's one of the major operational concept differences between TR-S and TR-6 - the latter really is meant to be applicable to any Federation suit (and beyond, BUNNyS willing). You can't stick a Hrududu Hrair onto anything besides a booster pod at all, it's just not designed with that in mind. But TR-6 is, and Hrududu II does it for more than just convenience.
That said you do make a very solid point, a booster pod pack isn't always available - it's technically still test equipment, only used by specialized squads. There's a reason the graph here >>23413336 still uses a Hizack as an example instead of going "just stick a boost pod on it ya numbnuts".
Guess what I'm trying to say is that on second thought Pale Rider DII, even if it's transpack-compatible, can go with option 2 as well.

On another note I noticed we hit bump limit, but I think we're gonna be fine until the Friday volume.

>>23413403
Gabthley

>>23414306
Given Gabthley's rear design, transformation and shoulders it seems uniquely poorly suited for that.

Jegan type SEX

>>23413563
>until the Friday volume
Don’t get my hopes up..

>>23413080
what makes you say that?

>>23414597
Volume 100 is likely to hit any week now and the Hyzenthlays haven't gone much longer than a year without a reprint.

>hguc Hrududu II isn’t the complete unit and you need to cannibalize a tr-6 Hazel II to build it
>bandai releases the hguc aqua hambrabi II before the standard hambrabi II
>unlike the hguc Hrududu II expansion set it’s a complete kit
I don’t understand Bandai’s logic

>>23414819
many such cases
this is your annual reminder that the Build Fighters kit Dom R35 comes with runners labeled simply "Dom", same as how the previously released Gouf R35 had "Gouf" runners. These Gouf runners were used for the Gouf Revive kit, but they've been sitting on a Dom revive for a decade now, by now it wouldn't even feel like a modern kit anyway.

>>23414819
we'll get the regular Hambrabi II kit, trust
and we'll get a bootleg soon after, trust trust

>>23414433
Prefer Hary's version, but this isn't bad.

>>23405674
AoZ is superior in everyway to Reboot

>>23398706
>ZIII

>>23415739
In my mind this is the canon Hazel hrair height

>>23415734
Sex

there's a gunpla competition in japan and this year's theme is AoZ so there's a bunch of new builds getting posted

When do AoZ custom builds start becoming cringe? Being published in Dengeki Hobby Magazine would mean custom builds are probably encouraged, right? Say I replaced the hover units on the Barzam II lower legs with scratch-built advanced Hazel/Hazel custom leg boosters

>>23416040
Never, the whole project is designed around encouraging them.

>>23416167
I love the metallic paint to replicate the rendering on the artwork

kinda miffed that I'll be asleep when vol 100 drops, gonna miss the end of thread goonsesh

Excited for special issue: TR Emblems 3!!!

>>23416471
I swear I will personally unbunny a bunnygirl if he stalls anymore

>>23415734
>Woundwort thigh-generators
>Zeta calf-generators
What the hell is it going to do with all that power?

>>23415732
Are those back cannons from Cherudim?

>>23416555
Crush your head like a watermelon

Hazel is a girl's name.

>>23416375
what makes you think it's actually coming out tomorrow?

>no new illustration
>no new kits announced
IT'S aOzOVER we had a good run bros

https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot81/
let's fucking go lads

>>23416981
Honestly perfect for vol 100
Kitbashing potential is infinite

>>23416981
GM Quel was the main player of the Titans right after its formation. This unit is the base of the RX-121 Gundam TR-1 [Hazel] and the RX-122 Kelderek. It was considered that the standard compatibility would be maintained even when the fuselage was replaced with Primrose, and that the equipment would continue to be used during the One Year War. This operational philosophy has become one of the factors behind the development of a universal replacement system. This is the same as the RX-78 Gundam mass-produced version, and the main aircraft of the Earth Federation Forces, the RGM-79 GM, was compatible with armaments and support equipment due to the common design of each section.

Both Gundam TR-1 [Hazel] and Kelderek are MSs based on the RGM-79Q, but there are major differences in their development concepts. While the former is an experimental machine for developing reinforced equipment for the next generation main aircraft, Gundam TR-S [Hazel Hrair], the latter is an experimental machine for developing an OS (later BUNNyS) to operate reinforced parts for Gundam TR-S [Hazel Hrair], based on the data obtained there, using a wide variety of special equipment to test for the RX-78, which was developed during the One Year War and after the war, and for developing an OS (later BUNNyS) to operate reinforced parts for Gundam TR-S [Hazel Hrair].

However, the aircraft that were operating during the One Year's War were not compatible with the Trans-Pack system. Connection joints were developed to allow the equipment used by these aircraft to have a transformer pack mechanism. That is the grapple arm. The development and implementation of this general-purpose joint made it possible to operate the equipment of older generation machines that were developed without consideration for compatibility, and remained after the war.

>>23416986
In this way, Kelderek was a machine for developing and experimenting with special OS and equipment. The data obtained with this machine contributed to the "TR Plan" in various ways, and was useful for implementing the complex equipment and control systems of Gundam TR-S and Gundam TR-6.

>>23416983
Cool to see more Pale Rider parts thrown on

Pale Rider DII anon will be happy

>>23416981
That's fucking Gundam High Mobility type lmao

>>23416991
Yep, really cool reference. So many options to build a Hazel now.

>>23416981
Nice, we finally get a better look at those back "torpedoes". I don't recognize them from any other MS desu. What's the super chonky gun the rear-facing Gundam is using?

>>23416996
They're from the Nouvel GM III and show up in Sentinel
Not 100% sure on the gun

>>23416999
worth noting that entire Kelderek loadout is just "prelude to Nouvel GM III"

>>23416981
>Mk-V rifle
>E-Pacs on hip
Eh?

>>23417001
they're for his frens

There's no 1/144 of the G-Line Assault backpack yet is there? That's what the closest Kelderek is using right?

>>23417003
hazels are meant to get passed around, that's why they're covered in handles

>>23417004
It had already been referenced in previous illlustrations

>>23416986
They keep teasing us with Hrair and not following through

>>23417004
Looks that way, gonna be an easy and fun kitbash when it's out.

>>23416981
The star is shining once more...

>>23416981
GM Quel was the mainstay MS of the Titans when they were formed and served as the basis for the test units RX-121 TR-1 [Hazel] and RX-122 [Kelderek]. Thanks to that, they inherit some parts of the structure of the RGM-79 series, tracing their lineage all the way back to RX-78-2 Gundam. GM models maintained compatibility with RX-78 series weapons and assorted gear, and this is still retained in these new Gundams.
Though they may seem very similar, [Kelderek] is not a variant of TR-1 [Hazel] but its own distinct unit with a different concept behind it. Where [Hazel] is intended for testing new equipment as part of the Gundam TR-S [Hazel Hrair] development process, [Kelderek]'s purpose is testing specialized equipment from the One Year War and the post-war era. The data gathered from that was used to develop an operational system for [Hazel Hrair]'s upgrade parts, later known as BUNNyS.
However OYW era mobile suits are not compatible with Transpack system, the new backpack connection standard. In order to rectify that a new joint was developed, called a "Grapple Arm", enabling usage of previous generation equipment that was not developed with compatibility in mind.
Though not a TR unit itself, [Kelderek] is a machine that that contributed to the TR Plan by testing gear and software, aiding in the development of the advanced equipment control systems used in TR-S and TR-6.

>>23416981
of all the shit to get /aoz/'d lmao
this is no Hrair but god dammit if it isn't just sheer fun, this kind of stuff is exactly what aoz is all about

congrats for volume 100!

>>23407552
motherfucking called it

>>23416981
It's not a perfect match but I think I'll get the bootleg HMT Gundam and see how it fits

>>23416981
>that loadout
>volume 100
it's like pottery

I am not overly fond of the pale rider and wish it and its derivatives to stay far away from AoZ

>>23416981
i might finally have a use for the hg pale rider i was considering selling, definitely gonna turn it into one of these guys if it doesnt get a kit any time soon

jp twitter regulars are going a wee bit nutty trying to figure out Kelderek's "pale rider" shoulders

gonna set up new thread in a minute

>>23416981
hmmmm

>>23417614
>>23417614
>>23417614
new thread

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