Thread 23408412

Majestic Prince is the most generic show I've ever seen, but in a weirdly good way
It's derivative and generic, but it's polished aside from Hiraiface
It's bland, but a top tier bland

>>23408412 (OP)
at least they were making more mecha shows back then

Something being generic or cliche doesn't matter, it's all about the execution.

>>23408412 (OP)
The Hiraiface is fine, because it's Scryed style Hiraiface and not SEED style Hiraiface. The characters are actually expressive and look different from each other beyond their hair.

And yeah, it's a fun show. Certainly enjoyable enough that we're still talking about it a decade on.

I always thought it was weird they spent half the show building up the connection between Izuru and Teoria and then when they finally reveal she's essentially his biological mother the two never interact after. Izuru himself is never told, right? Just that Asagi is his brother. I would have liked to at least see a scene of the two together after he found out but oh well. Besides it's Izuru so all that would really happen is he'd start going around calling her mommy like a weirdo.

hirai face is so ugly. gundam build fighters which aired just months later had some of the hottest girls in mecha too. the contrast man.

Izuru "Deru" Hitachi

>>23408514
I prefer Tamaki's fat tits over Rinko or whatever

Based Amane

>>23408530
Based on what

>>23408412 (OP)
It was so good. I felt invested in the character drama and I liked how all of them felt 3-dimensional. Speaking of, it also proved that 3DCG mechs could work. I watch the end of the first episode regularly.

I miss /m/ debates on whether the 6th dude was a dude.

>>23408537
deez nuts

>>23408412 (OP)
I don't know about generic, there's a surprising lack of shows that take place mostly in space and that are about humans fighting humanlike aliens. Only other ones I can think of are Nadesico, Ideon ad Macross, and MJP doesn't really feel like any of those.
It's more that it's just straightforward, doesn't throw any twists at you. It spends more time getting you to like the characters than it does getting you invested in the plot. But when it does do stuff with the plot, it at least tries to make things flashy

>>23408462
Tell that to americans.

>>23408469
Does Tamaki just wear zero support for her tits? I know they genetically engineered her spine to handle them but that can't be comfortable.

>>23408412 (OP)
its cute how /m/ treats mjp like a dumb golden retriever

>>23409849
Golden retrievers are actually really smart though, they usually rank in the top 5 among dog breeds in intelligence tests.

The most 7/10 anime in existence. In a good way.

>>23409981
I know, that was part of the point I was making. MJP more than any other show I can think of is always treated so kind. Everyone knows it's flawed but it seems like most people can't bring themselves to dislike it.

>>23408412 (OP)
Kei was really cute and flat. I should give this show another chance; i still have the entire series downloaded but got distracted by something else about 3 episodes in.

>>23410064
It's not flawed at all, it's just simply not ambitious
You see the same reaction when it comes to similar shows like Dai Guard or Xabungle

>>23410106
I think there's something to be said about a series just being all around solid but not ambitious
Need I remind you of what happens when your "le ambition" pretensions get the better of you

>>23408833
Considering many liked Superman 2025 I think many do know that. There's just as many who don't want to admit that though.

>>23410108
I liked MJP and G-Reco, not sure what your point is. They were both fun.

>>23410651
Yeah someone like you would

>>23408412 (OP)
I would say that the Majestic Prince is very well balanced as a mecha anime.

There are various types and designs of mecha for every taste, there are large-scale battles and special operations, there is interaction between mecha and allied spaceships, technological development is well explained and integrated into the universe.

The characters are well-written both in their individuality and abilities, and in their origin as literally natural-born pilots who have undergone military training. The team that supports them is also great and, moreover, all the operations in which this super-squad participates are built on competent and interesting tactics. Moreover, the problems of relationships between various structures and organizations in the alliance of "good guys" are presented quite realistically, as well as the careerist ambitions of some subjects.

The enemies are quite acceptable - aliens with biotech and a culture of militant superiority, which create their desire for war with "related" species to stimulate their own evolution. This is 100 times more logical and interesting than the vast majority of "bases" of conflicts in many mecha anime!

Additional episodes with a new team and full activation of the main cast corrected the ending and it turns out to be practically ideal.

In my opinion, Defenders of the Galaxy can be considered almost the best mecha anime I've ever watched...

>>23410652
Someone like me? What do you mean?

>>23410678
You know, THAT type...

>>23410677
Thanks deepseek

>>23410681
I assume that you have no arguments against it and therefore resort to rudeness? Try harder, dude.

>>23410688
I have as many arguments as she has tits
ZERO

>>23410694
But she does have breasts, they're just small.

>>23410720
By the way, according to visual analysis, it is confirmed that the pilot of the Black is also a girl;)

>>23410819
Good, she was always my favorite.
Loved when she went psycho during fights,

>>23410688
I know she has nice big tits, but I still prefer left, I just like tall women/girls

>>23410819
Men can have boobs to anon.

>A disingenuous post
I just pointed out what the writers would say if you gave this evidence to them.

>>23410819
Where?

Watched the 25th episode OVA.
What was the point of this existing?

>>23411113
There wasn't really, I've always interpreted it as a just-for-fun thing to link to the movie.

>>23411169
Does any of the OVA or movie appear in SRW?

>>23410679
No I don't know.

>>23411059
Loved the pit crews.

No MJP thread is complete without Rapenomics.

>>23408412 (OP)
Has anybody read the manga version. I've seen some of the early chapters and its basically a completely different fucking story other than character names and the basic setting.
Did the anime makers just bin the actual show and make their own shit. What the fuck happened there.
It wasnt even some rando artists either. the manga was made by the Get Backers guy so to have it completely changed feels like there's a story behind it all and we never got to know it

>>23412092
Pretty sure it's a prequel.

>>23412151
Interquel, more like, the cast is another class on the same academy. Strangely, both the manga and anime share a frequent character, but it seems she is not coherent on how she acts on the anime. So it's weird, if you didn't knew the anime existed you probably wouldn't associate both pieces of media at all.

>>23412092
Yeah, I've read it. MJP was a multimedia thing so that's the deal there. They're both stories that take place in the same setting at pretty much the same time, but at the same time the final volume omake does have the artist saying that how exactly it relates to the anime never got fully expanded upon so who knows. The manga's more about what happens as a result of the war with the Wulgaru and honestly I find it way more interesting even if it did get axed decently hard, the anime's probably still better though.
>It wasnt even some rando artists either. the manga was made by the Get Backers guy
Ayamine did the story not the art but it still really looks like GetBackers for some reason, and to the best of what I can find the artist wasn't an assistant of his either.

>>23410108
very weird post considering G Reco is the definition of all around solid

>>23413436
t. tomino

Do you faggots really have bring bitching about fucking G-Reco into a MJP thread? Holy fuck you people are unbearable

>>23411113
>>23411169
>>23411189
The point of ep 25 was to introduce the new team Fawn that got to join the fight in the moive.

>Does any of the OVA or movie appear in SRW?
Yeah in 30 but there wasn't much.

>>23413443
Oh please you know damn well right about this time in the thread someone is supposed to chime in with the obligatory snipe at Valvrave like it's fucking clockwork.

>>23413443
G-reco is shit

>>23408412 (OP)
I didn't like it but I also didn't dislike it.

It's weird because I completed it but I don't remember anything.

>>23411113
It sets up the new characters in the movie and also the mech Asagi uses.

>>23408518
Do you think Izuru would like All Might?

>>23410677
2 non fighting episodes between battles is quite a bit of a break. Duels between Izuru and the Prince were good, but there was rather mech directing that relied on characters telling us they were fighting a difficult battle when things didn't look much different than usual. Also, enemy grunts were poorly designed.

The guy piloting blue mech was the only well written character. Izuru and the analytics girl were passable. The other two were one-dimensional stereotypes. The girl/guy was entertaining, but as a character, they didn't go anywhere. Dobermans were neat.

It is solid how adults know how to treat child soldiers, unlike NERV. Only the Prince was a memorable villain.

But it is by a numbers generic story with generic tropes (rebellious Princess of the enemies, generals of the evil empire, the supposedly dangerous aspect of MC's mecha that ends up mastered anyway...) that has decent elements, even some good moments, but isn't really standing out. You saw that show many times already. It is a 6/10 series

>>23414110
I thought with NERV they knew that they were treating the kids badly, they just didn't give a shit

>>23414111
Eva's problem is that it doesn't get that tragedy is about characters succumbing to their flaws despite genuinely trying to improve, not about them being just stupidly awful because that's "realistic"

>>23411113
Sugita

>>23414115
>tragedy is about characters succumbing to their flaws despite genuinely trying to improve
Is that truly what tragedy is about though?

That episode halfway through that's just pure slice of life/comedy focused felt like something from a much older anime

>>23408412 (OP)
Yes. I was saying that when MJP first came out, in fact.

>>23410106
Xabungle was very innovative for the time. Terrible example

>>23410106
Dai-Guard's a shining example of what heroism is truly about and what it means to be a real hero

>>23414126
Engaging ones, yeah. Tragedy or not, the story's heroes should be proactive. In tragedy, passive loser MC is even worse because bad things happening to them cause apathetic response from the audience.

>>23414110
Personally, I liked the everyday scenes in "Prince" - for example, the funny moments with Kei's saccharine cooking, connected with her natural specialization as an analyst, or the slightly sad moments with Tamaki's attempt to eat away his sadness with various strange dishes. Izuru's drawing or Suruga's military-otakunstvo. The eternally grumpy Asagi even seems normal.) And when Princess Theory tried to translate the stream of swear words from her "relative" and blushed and got confused - it was hilarious.

I have no problems with mech piloting and combat scenes because they are balanced through teamwork and individual mech settings covering each other's weaknesses. For example, that fight with the "Golden General" Wulgaru involving several members of the "Rabbit" squad and the main weapon of their mothership was damn cool and unpredictable.

The Dobermans lived with dignity and died with honor, having fulfilled their task, and Chandra also broke the system of ignoring the "death flag". The second super-team "Fawn" not only turned out to be individual and self-sufficient, but also participated in the battle with benefit, helping the main characters. Everyone in their roles.

In my opinion, the anime is very good because it COMPETENTLY shows the REASONABLE development of war technologies based on a combination of artificially created soldiers and advanced models of new weapons systems. "Prince" does not dramatize the "fate" of these child soldiers, since they consciously accept their purpose and live fully with it. "Prince" honestly points out that the adaptation of revolutionary weapons to alien technology is a very difficult and complex process. "Prince" also demonstrates that even very well thought-out human plans can hardly resist the simple power and numbers of aliens. And that's awesome!

why is this guy talking to himself in ai responses

>>23414878
It's just appreciated that the show knew when to step back, calm down and focus on something more quiet. I liked that they actually took an episode to properly reflect on what it meant tot hem when the Dobermans died and actually take the time to strengthen what they all meant to each other. That the bulk of the adult characters actually realized how messed up it was to have to rely on young soldiers and pushed to make life not awful for them is another big cap.

for me, its Reika and Rin
these cakes need love and I got a lot to give

>>23416245
Rin^2 loves her bunnies

Fat and Flat are friends

>>23416268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Y25FT7DxE

>>23410108
>I think there's something to be said about a series just being all around solid but not ambitious

That kind of makes sense when you consider that it was Orange's first production job. They wanted to do it right and get more jobs rather than overextend and make other wary of working with them.

>>23414115
>Eva's problem is that it doesn't get that tragedy is about characters succumbing to their flaws despite genuinely trying to improve
Heard. It's why I think only a few of the adult characters (Gendo and maybe Kaji) come to mind as good examples of the tragedy thing actually working out. The fact that they have the authority/agency to actually affect change in the wider story instead of following a script until the eleventh hour also helps.
>not about them being just stupidly awful because that's "realistic"
That's not where I thought you were going with this at all, though. I thought you were going to point out that Eva kicks its characters in the teeth regardless of whether they're getting consumed by their flaws or actually managing them somewhat competently.

Where the fuck did this rumor come from

>>23438278
Probably SEED threads since I've never seen it in a Fafner, MJP or S-CRY-ED thread.

>>23408412 (OP)
I loved this and Buddy Complex. Generic but very enjoyable

>>23408412 (OP)
That's the power of just trying to do good execution over wow'ing the audience with twists and turns like Vulvarape. Everyone was fairly well characterized, plot points were hit well and well-paced. Action was fairly well done, and 180'd my opinion of CGI mechs. Overall it's like Vanilla ice cream, nothing wrong with liking it, and almost refreshing after having so many different flavors.

>>23427138
Both for Izuru.

>>23438562
Scryed was very far from sameface. Ever so far. Fafner on the other hand... (But that came after SEED so it would make no sense for that to be the origin of the rumor)

>>23448253
>and 180'd my opinion of CGI mechs
Studio Orange is just good at what they do
Unfortunately there aren't a lot CG studios still that can do that well on a TV budget

>>23453473
It's just SEED as he says, especially due to the relation this board has to that series

>>23453477
Why the hell is it that studios struggle to do what Xebec did 20 years ago for Zoids?

>>23453672
Kinda amazing Zoids looks less dated than many of the CG anime that came after it during the 2000 to 2010 period.

>>23453672
They don't
Zoids models look good for the time but they're animated poorly

>>23453473
Fafner is the only Hiraiface show where I've run into the rumored Hiraiface issue of not being able to tell people apart. More specifically the original male kid pilot cast, (outside of the main two). Crazy guy who needed a mask to go into battle, fat guy and guy who married Sakura were all the same guy to me unless Sakura was onscreen too to help differentiate. Still not sure if there were 2 or 3 of them

>>23460600
>Izuru's acting weird
>I'm sure it's just fatigue. It's probably nothing.
>His manga is good.
>EVERYBODY PANIC!

>>23469276
That rabbits got a mean streak a mile wide. It's a killer!

>>23464930
I love Kei

>>23470751
She is best girl

Just watched the movie. What an absolute nothingburger that was.

I'm guessing it had no purpose except to just sell more models so we get this thing where they cram in the 4 new side character units (Team Fox), awakened versions of the other 4 rabbits and the new white 0 and Red 5+ units.

I just can't fathom why they went with the plot they did.
End of show the gate is closed but Wulgaru can always come back the long way and they still have half their leadership still alive and well so its obvious they will be coming back.
Judging by the news reports at the end "Were the AHSMBs even necessary?" "Here's how ludicrously expensive the AHSMBs are" I was expecting something like:
>War is over, Rhinos and Black 6-based cheaper AHSMBs are enough to mop up the remaining Wulgaru
>Team Rabbits is disbanded and AHSMBs are mothballed due to cost and political pressures (whichever nation owned them has a military advantage was touched on during the show)
>Years pass, Izuru may/may not wake up at this time
>Wulgaru return, maybe quickly made another smaller gate. Earth does a bit better in defense this time due to Rhinos but complacancy means less ready units and they eat shit whenever a leader takes the field so steadily getting beaten back
>Battle at the new gate
>Give Chandra his moment to avenge Randy and Patrick by taking down Lutier with help from Team Fox
>Team Rabbits are reactivated, maybe unofficially, and decide to dive into the gate to elimiate Jiart's brother with Theoria claiming the throne as destroying the new gate will just repeat the war endlessly
>Izuru wakes up and deploys with the rest in Red 5+, or waits until the Rabbits are struggling vs. Jiarts brother, having already beaten the other Wulgaru forces with awakened states
>They win and Wulgaru stand down
>alt ending Earth still decides to blow up the gate and rabbits get back just in time with possibility of Izuru choosing to stay with his mother

>>23471435
>no purpose except to just sell more models
There are no models besides two Koto ones and a Moderoid that came much later.

>>23471435
>I just can't fathom why they went with the plot they did.

BECAUSE IT WAS FUN! Quit being a joyless cunt.

>>23421470
Did they ever make anything other than the Red 5 and Yellow 3 kits?

>>23472465
>best fight in the show was on Earth at their home base
>movie just does the fight again but more

Good show, animation was amazing.

>>23471435
What's stopping a similar scenario (only without Izuru's coma) from being implemented after the actual movie and OVA?

Personally, I liked the full-length movie for a number of funny and interesting moments, and the awakening of the Rabbits was interesting + the new team with their unique mecha...

I'll have to rewatch the anime soon.)

>>23484028
If the movie existed just to give the other rabbits their upgraded forms then it was well worth it. Sometimes it's enough to just see the characters you like one more time.

>>23481905
It's much easier to portray acrobatic shenanigans without being vomit inducing or an unreadable mess when there's a clear point of reference. Many space anime forget this fact.

>>23486553
Yeah, even though the animation is great, the space fights in MP also got very unreadable at points. It helps that all the ground combat had great choreography and teamwork to help sell the Rabbits as a team as well.

>>23408412 (OP)
Despite how "generic" the show is. I think the show's best traits is the characters. They don't have those "started disliking one another until bond are formed in the end" kind of chemistry. But they felt kinda natural. Like when your teachers grouped you and a bunch of unrelated randos together and you all just figuring out how to make this work. Sometimes it's comforting to see a team that just, normal. They bounce each other normally like actual friends.

>>23486725
It was just nice. I don't like the term generic but while the show isn't trying to do anything especially shocking it is focused on doing things right. None of the drama comes from people behaving like retards. Characters actually take time to communicate. It feels genuine because it is genuine. Even the most mysterious cloak and dagger characters realize that the secrets can get in the way sometimes. It's nice. If this was what counted as generic then whole genre would be a lot better.

>>23411226
A retard.

>>23488768
Well, some of the drama is from people being retards. And they get penalized for being retards putting their personal career above the survival of humanity.

>>23408412 (OP)
we get it, you're playing SRWY

anyways jokes aside, I like how they had defined roles. I get the point behind Ange/black 6 but if the selling point is "haha this cybernewtype knockoff's gender is a mystery" then maybe you need to flesh out the character a bit more.

>>23503137
Wow, a time traveler started the thread before the release of the game or demos to talk about a series they wanted to talk about. Incredible.

>that trash talk during the fight in the movie
Majestic Prince is literal kino.

>>23514807
>Everyone just starts talking over each other to explain how to use White Zero

>>23410064
It doesn't really do anything retarded compared to most original shows, they stick to the template and it comes out decent.

>>23408412 (OP)
Izuru is literally me.

>>23515262
You can't draw for beans either?

>>23457323
>In SRW30, Izuru was an option for Gridman as a potential host
This say a lot about Izuru.

>>23408412 (OP)
Izuru jobbed a little too much. Also I prefer the manga version.

>>23414042
Same. I struggle to remember anything about it.

>>23523830
Main protagonists losing is a good thing though.