Thread 23409779

What did Fraw Bow mean by this? Also, why didn't she actually look pregnant?

>>23409779 (OP)
Amuro constantly rejected her advances and selah was pretty hot so its a logical thing to ask.

>>23409779 (OP)
she wa a projecting
also, original's novel reference.

Did she say how long she was pregnant for?

>>23410412
9 months

>>23410412
six months.

>>23409779 (OP)
Women don't really get swollen for the first trimester.

>>23409779 (OP)
Tomino's writing and storytelling is often very multi-layered, mature, and is very relatable on a human level. So I'll try to break down this scene and it's different human elements. It will also help those who have autism and don't understand human interaction (I've discovered many mecha fans are genuinely autistic, and have trouble with romance).

Breakdown:


Very Deep down Fraw Bo still loves Amuro. It's an open secret that people never forget their first love.

But Fraw Bo is basically resigned to the fact that Amuro will never love her back in any romantic way in this life. Even if it did happen, it's too late because she's "married" to Hayato, and pregnant with his baby. You don't mess with married women.

( I say married with quotes because it seems like their marriage is cold. We never see Fraw and Hayato happy together. Hayato only seemed to lust after Fraw's body. But had no emotional connection with her. He only took care of the kids. )


Back to the main topic. So since Fraw Bo can't Amuro's love, then the second best option for Fraw Bo is to be a good friend to Amuro, and hope for his happiness (and Hope that Amuro can be a good Uncle to the kids). That's why she's mentioning Sayla. Fraw doesn't want Amuro to be alone and unhappy as time moves on.

Haven't any of you been rejected by a girl in real life? Someone you truly loved? Even if she rejects you, most men still think, "Okay. She doesn't love me, but I still hope she lives a happy life. That enough for me to move on in life. As long as she's happy."

( It would probably depress you a lot if you found out the girl you loved and confessed to ended up living a miserable life. Men love to fantasize about saving women and giving them happy lives. )

The irony here is that Amuro actually does have romantic feelings for Fraw Bo. He only realized it after the war was over. But Amuro was too late. Fraw does sense it but doesn't act on it. So the best they can do is a polite goodbye kiss

>>23412367
>I say married with quotes because it seems like their marriage is cold. We never see Fraw and Hayato happy together. Hayato only seemed to lust after Fraw's body. But had no emotional connection with her. He only took care of the kids.
They never interacted on anime when they became husband and wife, same with Mirai and Bright. It implies in 79 anime Hayato already have a crush on Fraw before Amuro and his father moved to Side 7. If anything he's Fraw's childhood friend before Amuro

>>23412574
I think it only implies that Hayato always had a thing for Fraw but could only make it happen if Amuro stepped aside, a massive war that destroyed half of humanity happened, and if Hayato agreed to take care of Fraw's adopted kids. In any other timeline, Fraw would have plenty of choices. She was a stunning young woman. Even Zeon soldiers were into Young Fraw. Hayato stood no chance under normal Circumstances.

>>23412367
>>23412583
please go to sleep, yas.

>>23412367
I kinda agree with this. Amuro really f'cked up with Fraw Bo and missed out. I wonder what kind of family life Amuro would have if he stayed with her.

>>23413015
It would just be another unfulfilled marriage, where each feels unsatisfied/restricted with their spouse but both still stay together for the kids

Nobody in UC post 79 looks like anything. They all have the same thin lined facial features that to a new viewer it's hard to tell anyone apart without sitting down and watching the shows.

>>23413072
>can't tell characters by expression
>not even character designer known for sameface
>ignoring eye color and hair
Genuinely autistic.

>>23412367

>We never see Fraw and Hayato happy together.

>>23412367
A wall of cuckshit, wow

>>23413709
Even seriously unhappy couples have their moments of happiness. Just the way it is . Kinda like how the dude at the end of the bar that you can't stand will eventually make you laugh.

>>23414346
>That one doesn't count

>>23412188
the fat ones do

>>23414360
>>23413709
Tomino said they aren't a happy couple. Does that count? He was trying to emulate real life and saying not everyone gets a happy ending.

>>23414392
>>Haven't any of you been rejected by a girl in real life? Someone you truly loved? Even if she rejects you, most men still think, "Okay. She doesn't love me, but I still hope she lives a happy life. That enough for me to move on in life. As long as she's happy."
A lot of guys think:
>She dumped me?! I hope she dies.
and then she's forgotten...
the bigger question is what did other women provide that Frau couldn't to Amuro?
you got Matilda, you got Sayla, you got Lalah, you got Beltorchika, you Chan.
I'll tell you what Fraud didn't have: newtype ability and aparently being an oldtype is a sexual turnoff for newtypes (you can't *feel* them the same way/don't have the same empathic connection with them).
Same applies in the real world when you meet girls you connect with on a different level (or don't have "chemistry").
Amuro clearly didn't not connect with Frau on that level and Tomino hammers that point throughout 0079 and Z Gundam: Amuro's loneliness and inability to fully connect/relate with people.

>>23414400
>Amuro's loneliness and inability to fully connect/relate with people.
We rarely if ever see Amuro happy.
The end of 0079 comes to mind when he escapes A Baoa Qu and reunites with the White Base crew on the life raft.

>>23414400
Lmao did the mod seriously delete the post? All he did was talk about Amuro's feelings about Fraw.

I guess the post hit something personal when he wrote about getting rejected by the person you have a crush on. Lmao.

>>23414411
usually nobody catches the deletes and reposts because you'd have to baby sit on updating a thread; so I can delete, edit, repost without anyone the wiser.
but good catch anon >>23414406 you got me!

>>23412188
You start showing signs around 10 weeks in

>>23414400
>Tomino hammers that point throughout 0079 and Z Gundam: Amuro's loneliness and inability to fully connect/relate with people.
Jeez no wonder Tomino kept making Amuro to be male equivalent of "used goods" in novels

>>23414416
4chanx shows deleted posts if they're referenced by other posts in the thread no need for even having opened the thread prior. And if you had it open it'll show deleted posts even if nothing refers to them.

>>23414452
those deleted ones go away if you refresh the page.
how long you been keeping this thread's tab open?

>>23414450
I know of the novels. I remember reading like the first chapter and thinking it wasn't that impressive.
Is it worth getting into? I just kept mapping the anime of it in my head while reading.

>>23414381
>He was trying to emulate real life
Tomino copied and pasted real life and changed the names, that's all UC Gundam is, an old man's therapy session where the audience is the shrink. Did you rike it?

>>23414514
>I just kept mapping the anime of it in my head while reading.
It makes sense because the same guy directed it. The 0079 and Zeta novels also explain little things that Tomino didn't get to put into the anime.

>>23414539
>the writing
he should stick to anime

>>23414554
Sunrise isn't based enough to animate them. No director's cut for you.

>>23414692
na I mean the writing itself; he's not a good writer of prose for literature.

>>23414860
most science fiction writers suck at prose.
Asimov for example; most boring dialogue in his books and his descriptive ability borders on the dryness of a Physics textbook. but the worlds and plots and premises he creates are cool.

>>23414860
>>23414862
Gundam is basically light novel, especially Zeta's

>>23415027
Come to think of it, I can't recall any memorable lines of dialogue from both series outside of memes?
Gihren's speech was pretty well written.

>>23414860
Don't you think maybe that might be a translation issue?

>>23415055
No.
Compare to the translation of good Japanese literature like Miyazawa's Night on the Galactic Railroad; one reads like a text book of events and the other will make you cry.

I haven't read any of the Gundam manga or novels. Does it ever tell us if Fraw Bow finds out about Katz and Hayato dying?

>>23413015
Maybe Gquacks Amuro and Fraw are together and living some quiet idyllic life.

>>23414400
If Fraw Bow was a newtype they should build her a personal Braw Bro Fraw Bow Custom.

>>23416800
That's a nice thought. I just hope Amuro still isn't a slob.

>>23412188
in my preggo fapbait they do.

>>23416971
He probably is, but aware of it and tries his best in sort of sporadic spurts of effort. Fraw appreciates when he does even if she winds up having to redo most of the cleaning he attempted.

GQuuuuuuX Amuro is a fat and balding slob engineer for the Titans with a Norwood 4 and Fraw still has like three biological kids with him because in this timeline Fraw Ray is a fucking champion.

Honestly, Lalah probably has it worse with her manchild husband who is living entierely off his little sister.

>>23413709
Why is Hayato such a deadbeat dad? He let's Katz get killed, never tells Fraw, and doesn't return home after leaving to go fight the Titans. Hayato also leaves Fraw as a pregnant widow.

>>23417556
Does anybody have a happy working marriage in UC Gundam?

>>23414509
No, they go away if you never saw them. If you have it open and reopen it'll just load from the cache and add new posts unless you manually hit refresh.

>>23417565
Seabook and Cecily after Crossbone, they retired and opened a bakery and spent all their time boning and making babies

>>23418045
These people had so little character development that I don't care.

>>23416223
You're not actually making a point. Both go through different intermediaries and you should be comparing it to tother novels that were translated by the same person if you want to show it isn't a translator issue.

>>23418091
you're making a sophistic point: that the linguistic ability of the original author is irreverent compared to the translator.
I disagree very much with your fallacy.
It's very possible he's just bad at writing prose and good at writing ideas/scenes (i.e. outlining/storyboarding).
I know what I read and it wasn't good and it wasn't the translator.
I like Tomino's work btw, I just think the novels are not as popular for a very reason (and a better translation won't fix it).

>>23414426
So barely 1 fortnight within the first trimester?

>>23418615
Given that you can't tell the difference between irreverence and irrelevance I'm not inclined to take your opinion on literary matters seriously at all.

>>23418045
I've never seen F91 (feels like AC rather than UC (along with V gundam)), but this clip is classic Tomino

>>23430718
I think I've articulated myself just fine.
You haven't really made an argument why it's good lit outside of browbeating me over technicalities and pedantry.
I don't think you are as smart as you think you are intimidated by me; case in point: you're still on this topic that I forgot about since last week.
My point still stands: Tomino is not good at literature; it's not his medium. His mastery is Anime.
Attacking me over my opinion is retarded and you look foolish (on a foolish board no less).
Begone.

And I'm leaving the thread, the topic devolved into disinterest and spergy autistic behavior.
the OP question was resolved and the thread should die rather continue a long painful death to page 10 and beyond...

>>23417565
No, every canon couple outside of a few are either volatile or unhappy, or an already established and happy couple who ALWAYS both die within a couple episodes of each other (that particular one happened THREE TIMES in 0079 alone holy shit)

>>23417565
Kamille and that annoying bitch.

>>23431915
>kamiiyu

>>23431915
Fa is not annoying.

Not a single one of these men would make a decent husband and/or father. The divorce rate in this picture alone is over 50%

>>23436273
breakdown
>Kamille
would, if he doesn't turn into an alcoholic although fa would like the abuse because she's asian
>Judau
cheats on roux regularly, at first by accident, eventually installs space tinder and accepts it. roux turns a blind eye cuz the abuse isn't as intense anymore
>Char
excellent father who immaculately tends to every detail to ensure one's personal growth, terrible husband due to whisky dick, autism and a nebulous mixture of hypocrisy and guilt capping his sexual ability
>Amuro
similar to Char except terrible father, his kids will certainly end up like Katz or Hathaway or even Gyunei

>>23439355
>breakdown

You sure did.