Thread 23417614

Happy volume 100!

--useful links--
https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/
>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entries

https://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html
>scans of some of the earlier entries

https://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/
>samples of the ongoing manga

https://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?
>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.

http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html
>another page with their stuff

https://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up
>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first one

https://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translations
>WIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entries

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>>23397127

latest volume, [Kelderek Owsla]
https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot81/

>GM Quel was the mainstay MS of the Titans when they were formed and served as the basis for the test units RX-121 TR-1 [Hazel] and RX-122 [Kelderek]. Thanks to that, they inherit some parts of the structure of the RGM-79 series, tracing their lineage all the way back to RX-78-2 Gundam. GM models maintained compatibility with RX-78 series weapons and assorted gear, and this is still retained in these new Gundams.
>Though they may seem very similar, [Kelderek] is not a variant of TR-1 [Hazel] but its own distinct unit with a different concept behind it. Where [Hazel] is intended for testing new equipment as part of the Gundam TR-S [Hazel Hrair] development process, [Kelderek]'s purpose is testing specialized equipment from the One Year War and the post-war era. The data gathered from that was used to develop an operational system for [Hazel Hrair]'s upgrade parts, later known as BUNNyS.
>However OYW era mobile suits are not compatible with Transpack system, the new backpack connection standard. In order to rectify that a new joint was developed, called a "Grapple Arm", enabling usage of previous generation equipment that was not developed with compatibility in mind.
>Though not a TR unit itself, [Kelderek] is a machine that that contributed to the TR Plan by testing gear and software, aiding in the development of the advanced equipment control systems used in TR-S and TR-6.

>>23417620
There's something really elegant about Kelderek, for lack of a better term.
Hazel is mainly testing new equipment for TR Plan - facing the future
Meanwhile Kelderek tests old gear for supporting that - linking the past and the future. It's a nice touch it's also a bit similar to the original Hazel teaser/reference model, and that it's black while Hazel's (mainly) white.
Even in this art it's using Pale Rider and G-Line gear - things that came out after AoZ began. It's embracing the somewhat haphazard and ad-hoc nature of UC as a setting, choosing to enjoy it and connect it together.

>>23417656
And it’s using the gundam high mobility type backpack with the full armor duel beam rifle, a really nice touch

Another 100 volumes until the hrair reveal

>>23417929
Sure it isn’t the hrair but this is still pretty amazing and significant in its own right having a third linage of the hazel series as testing out old equipment, perhaps the kelderek owlsa is probably better than the gundam MK2, it even has gundarium

>>23417940
Actually what am I saying, it isn’t even a hazel anymore but rather it’s own thing

>>23417929
That's the thing, now we have no idea when to expect it do we're back to the usual constant suspense.

>>23418060
Or this anon is right and it will never be revealed >>23398706

>>23418068
Doesn't make a lick of sense, to speak nothing of the "reason".

There is literally nothing stopping this from being a thing now.

Apparently Haze'n-thley II Rah is leaked confirmed coming to GBO2, so we're gonna see a nice and fancy model of it and fighting animations at... some point in the next two years, give or take

>>23417707
the double beam rifle is a default thing for HMT too
that said I could totally see it running some FA gear, and there's no shortage of fun options there

>>23418172
really makes ya think

>>23418145
This is my absolute favorite MS ever made and I just blew my load pulling for the Crossbone. Do you have a source for this?????

>>23418194
yep

>>23417620
absolute pottery

Does anyone else feel like the new leg parts for the psychoblade custom woundwort make posing a little bit harder when folding the legs up to attach to other parts? I’m thinking about building the Barzam II with the older leg parts

Now that we have Kelderek Owsla we can get a Kelderek Hyzenthlay...

>>23419209
Isn't Hyzenthley a one-off emergency patch-job?

>>23419234
No? Literally nothing has ever described it that way.

>>23419209
>Kelderek Hazenthley
Kelderek Owsla testing Gabthley's equipment?

>>23418450
At the very least the backpack can certainly fit, and with how the RX-78 to RGM-79 compatibility is described I don't doubt at least most of the armour could be applied as well after a little adjustment.
What I'm really wondering now is how it'll handle GP Project gear if hypothetical there was a spare part or two.

>>23419418
I'd imagine it's broadly the same as Hazel-Haze'n-thley, the Owsla config is just upgraded with Primrose for its own utility. Switching that to Primrose II is gonna enhance its modularity even more, maybe it could be running an early BUNNyS program.

I'd like to think this volume is Fujioka's way of canonizing the fan art and kitbashes of the aoz flavor over the years. Basically his way of saying "go nuts guys the sky is the limit." Really is a nice way to celebrate 23 years and 100 volumes put like that.

Wait a minute. ReZeon does have extensive manufacturing capabilities on Mars right? But those factories were just seized from the already established Mars Zeon right? Then how did they capture those facilities in the first place? Did they win the founding war with just the few MS the Titans remnants packed for the trip to Mars?

>>23419832
It wasn't just a few MS. Tristan led a sizable portion of the Titans that decided to get out of dodge when Scirocco killed Jamitov. Their forces included a lineup of TR units including the Fiver II, but also a selection of other troops including a bunch of Hizacks and Marasais but also at least one Psycho Gundam Mk-II

>>23419832
Zeon Mars
Mars Zeon is the final entity that results from all this

>>23419987
to be fair it's kinda same shit and "Zeon Mars" sounds silly

why don't we have a fiver kit yet

>>23420098
beeeg
there's a resin kit or three and a stl file or two out there though

>>23419686
He already encourages that, he retweets random art and custom builds all the time. There was that one tweet where he said you can stick gigantic arms on anything you want, to paraphrase.
That said it's still the 100th volume dedicated to restating that, so it's still significant.

Incidentally i'm EU subhuman so I can't see any of his image posts now, can anyone check if he posted a MS Girl for this volume yet? Before that the latest was Hizack-chan in color.

remind me again, is the AoZ barzam having a drum frame is "retcon", or is it a separate mobile suit from the one we see in zeta?

>>23420183
there's no definite word but it sure seems to be leaning towards the latter, or at least leaves room for interpreting it that way

>>23420183
it's the latter there's one MS development illustration from Reboot that shows the Zeta Barzam as separate from the AoZam
don't remember which one though

>>23420237
I kinda wanna see that myself, if that’s true there’s two possibilities on what this means, either the zeta barzam represents a trial/preliminary/ pre-production run of the eventual A.O.Z barzam, or the zeta is the titans simplified or budget version of the A.O.Z model for purpose on ease of mass production which would explain them making the MP owsla. Going with the former theory but I could be completely wrong on both accounts

>>23420270
it's right there in the very same volume that described Barzam itself. It has never been acknowledged, but it's not something you draw by accident, especially in Barzam's own volume.
My theory is that anime Barzam is a simplified model of the TR one, giving up most of the TR goodies for a simpler but still very solid platform that can be mass produced immediately.
This still leaves room for the other Barzam backgrounds (like being mass produced Mk-II and being developed at New Guinea Base) to contribute somewhere, and for other variants to exist - for example Kondo's Barzam as a further simplified and cheaper Luna II-produced variant.
Really the thing about Gundam development trees (especially UC) is that they inevitably get inconsistent and too convoluted to make sense of, because there's no decades-long consistent oversight over them. And that's fine, you can make up your own version of things.

>>23420270
another important tidbit is F90's Monthly Mobile Machine BR-GM article, which outright has anime Barzam next to BR-GM C2 which uses a TR-like structure. It's hypothesized to be "reversing the design back to the TR Project", so you can use that to fuel speculation too.

what information is there about the ZZZ gundam? i can't find a single thing on the wiki about it and i'm too new to aoz to know where to look for it

>>23420281
[Hazel Hrair] captured by AEUG at the end of Gryps War and converted by Anaheim using Project Z-series parts to serve as a testbed for investigating TR Plan data since most records of it were destroyed. Essentially their own new Hazel.
It's also called Advance of Zeta Gundam and Theta Gundam - the one that's been a mystery since Sentinel. It's a "fusion point" that led to integrating more Titans data into Anaheim development and contributed to later mobile suits.
Other than that it's a mysterious motherfucker at this point, at the rate things are going we might get a few hints about it as we learn more about [Hrair[ itself but it'll take a while before we know everything.

>>23420287
Did you mean the lambda gundam? Because theta was the original code name for the double zeta. Either way this is interesting

>>23420278
And below left to it is the hazel keldrek when it was still a mystery mobile suit

>>23420287
a fusion between aoz and sentinel design sounds like pure sex
i hope we get more information on this guy soon, really intriguing

>>23420298
Yeah I'm dumb, my bad

>>23420308
>>23420303
>Tfw A.O.Z. was just a 20 + year quest and build up just to reveal what the fuck the lambda gundam is
It would be worth it

any chance we might get a [Hrair] reveal outside of a landmark volume?

I really, really like this AUEGwort.

>>23420303
>>23420340
Fujioka is a huge Katoki and Sentinel fan, AoZ's origins can be traced back to when he played a Sentinel RPG with friends in high school, his character was a female Titans pilot using a custom Barzam that later became a Gundam.
Seems like twitter search is borked right now I can't find the source and I didn't save the pictures.

I've always wanted to see a Hazel with the double beam rifle

>>23420938
The shield is amazing. The gun looks like something out of 00 though

>>23418450
>>23419605
They could also have armor pieces and the overall look of the 7th inspire the design language of later suits
They can't hold off streamlining the Hazel forever

>>23420938
ZIII [Elysium], thank you very much
>>23421067
I think it's the smooth cover on the front that gives that impression, most of it looks to be just Z II's mega launcher with some extra gubbinz added for more bulk

>>23421209
Not sure what you're trying to say, especially about streamlining Hazel

>>23421233
I?m like 90% sure the blade on the bottom is from one of the Exia or 00 clusterfuck sword combination weapons

>>23421243
> 90% sure the blade on the bottom is from one of the Exia or 00 clusterfuck sword combination weapons
That's because it is, the GN Buster Sword III from the XN Raiser to be precise. The black parts on it are the GN Bazooka from the Virtue Gundam.

>>23417620
talk about coincidences. I've been workshopping a Hazel/Kelderek custom build and this fits perfectly. I currently have it outfitted with G-Line Standard leg thrusters, Mk-II's backpack and vulcan pod, enhanced shield booster and GP01's long rifle. Might get some inspiration for more gear here.
Also is it just me or the Kelderek in the back has something going on with the feet? They look a bit different, kinda like Full Armor parts maybe?

>>23421067
You would be sort of correct. It's the ZII's mega beam rifle with a sword from the Gundam XN Raiser mounted under the barrel.

>>23421421
Since we're being so specific, it's the ZZII and not ZII's MBR.

>>23421784
>get excited thinking there was a ZZII that I never knew about
>turns out it's another GBF abomination
that explains it
so glad that shit is dead now

>>23421822
I also hate fun kit variations

>>23421784
>ZZII
dang that thing looks cool, I like how the shoulders incorporate FA ZZ

>>23421827
Yeah, I like a bunch of the parts for it. The elongated shield-wings are cool too. I've got one sitting around to feed into my own Lambda project eventually.

>>23421830
there's a few build kits that could make for nice AoZ fodder

>>23421826
the only that looks passable is this one that turns the Gusion into a Kobayashi design

>>23421846
ew

>>23421846
okay anon, glad you don't like things

>>23421846
uh wait it turns into the Galbaldy into a Kobayashi design rather
>>23421847
fuck you bro

>>23420281
>>23420287
Zenless Zone Zero Gundam...

There are many Keldereks, but this one is mine

Just a little arrangement I've slapped together, dunno if I actually wanna use the Mudrock backpack for it though.

>>23422600
Looking keep, nice idea with the GM Custom shoulders. Not a fan of the proportions with Custom's legs but I understand it's a common tweak.
Mudrock has more overall volume so the rather wide backpack has a different impression than here, but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

>>23422610
Thanks! I tried the Quel legs but I didn't like them, pic related. They're just so fat and the Mudrock vernier need way more work than a drilled hole and a little sanding to actually look flush, else they stick out extremely far. I certainly love some chunk myself but in this particular case I like the newer Reboot Quels with slimmer proportions a lot more.

Annoyingly the GM Custom arms (and shoulders) are of very slightly different construction and dimensions than the Quel ones, so these shoulders actually have a small gap in them right now, but nothing some sanding can't fix. Always did like the Custom shoulders over the Quel's. They've always felt higher performance with the vernier extensions to me I guess. Agreed on the backpack. The narrowness of the Primrose torso makes anything seem much bigger and the effect is almost at max here. It would probably be a nicer fit on a Chobham'd torso but I don't have the bits for that (plus this whole thing is an excuse to use up my spare Primrose torso anyway). I also forgot to toss on my GM III skirt missiles.

Wish I had a kit to yoink a double beam rifle from. Shoulda picked up a couple FA Gundams.

>>23421235
I'm saying they should come up with an actual mechanical reason for the change in aesthetic between the UC 90s and the Formula era
I'm saying Hazel III should have a Formula-esque design with hard points, much like how the Gelgoog III introduces the Mars Zeon aesthetic

>>23422654
alright I'm not the original anon who asked you but this elaboration has me just as confused. Hazel III? A mechanical reason for the aesthetic change from the UC 0090s to F90? The formula project is intentionally an entirely different design paradigm by SNRI, being a different company is plenty to justify the change in aesthetics alone, just like how the Titans have a medley of designs from different development teams and every other badguy faction has their own MS design language. It's already enough that the TR project leads into the Jegan and GM III at this point, that was a connection that didn't really need to exist but there's truly no reason for a Hazel to be some F90 prototype or even relevant to it.

>>23422623
I'm not sure if they're really supposed to be totally flush like on the original machine, the linearts kinda make it look like they're meant to stick out a bit, which would make sense since it's different leg shapes anyway. But it's hard to say with the art we have so it's up to interpretation really. And I get liking these proportions, I'll admit they match well especially with the Owsla chest.
GM III missiles are always a nice addition. I don't have them myself, but just out of curiosity would they fit well inside the Mk-II shield? Got an idea brewing.
I think that's more or less the idea with the shoulders. They're closer to Alex's design and provide better maneuverability, but on Quel they're switched out for a smaller alternative - maybe it was excessive and this is a good way to cut costs, or a more streamlined designed is just more efficient. After all later suits like GM III and Jegan also stick to a similar structure rather than the more protruding format.
They do work very well here, though.
All this talk about the shoulders makes me thing what other parts could get switched out like that too. Gonna post mine own in a while.

>>23422678
It can sorta fit. It's held in place with friction right here, the rear prongs sandwiching the shield-to-forearm attachment piece to stay in place. A little bit of trimming and you could fit it a little cleaner inside but the forward blocks are ever-so-slightly wider than the shield is at its narrowest so you might have to adjust those too if you want it entirely hidden behind the shield.

Honestly if I had my own Pale Riders I'd probably ape some to make the interesting DII + base Pale Rider combo shoulders the frontmost Kelderek has but I think the GM Custom approximates the look close enough with dramatically less work even if I did have all the bits. Unfortunately a lot of shoulders are a huge pain to cross over since many more modern kits use ball and socket shoulders. The GM III or Mudrock shoulders would be ton of work to port over for instance. It really limits how much you can plug-and-play with.

>>23422692
And here's a closeup from the outside just to show that too. It's a pretty decent fit, I'd say it seems like a good idea. Would love to see your creations.

>>23422666
You never asked why the Gelgoog III resembles the Sazabi for no reason
SNRI exists already by this point in UC, therefore there's no reason for them to not introduce SNRI in AoZ and have them use a Hazel offshoot as a testbed for the Formula project

>>23422710
Actually I do have quibbles with it having Sazabi parts but frankly all the Martian history stuff is quite weird to result in Mars Zeon/Oldsmobile and I don't think the Gelgoog III smooths that transition over at all but instead needlessly complicates it, but it's whatever because the Rehaze and Reben Wolf are extremely erotic.
>therefore there's no reason for them to not introduce SNRI in AoZ and have them use a Hazel offshoot as a testbed for the Formula project
if you say so, but it was pretty dumb when Crossbone and FF pulled out the F89 to begin with and I'd find it even dumber for a Hazel to secretly be one step behind it in the shadows for no reason personally. An MS can only be relevant for so long.

Unless you're the Double Zeta.

>>23422692
>>23422693
Much appreciated, a little adjustment is no big deal in the end and this is close enough to make something like Dezpada's composite weapons.
As for my current idea, I tried slapping G-Line's feet onto my wannabe Kelderek. Pardon the quality, the Hazel kit has a few years and everything else is from not-so-great bootlegs.
Doesn't work as well as I wished, though that's partly due to the connections - like with the shoulders, they just don't fit at all because ball joints are on opposite ends so they're barely held together with sticky tack, hence the awkward look. The hope was to give it a bit of a Sentinel style impression since the feet are so long and thin, but it's gonna need some more work.

>>23422766
Looks cool. Feet feel pretty Mark Vish, seem like they'd be great to replicate the Mark V leg'd Hyzenthlay personally which otherwise doesn't have proper feet available. Love the choice of rifle, excellent fit, and I will always clap when I see the beam diffuse shield booster. It's so fucking cool. I really wish I had more than one. Shame the Advanced Hazel kit is so rare now in general.

>>23422796
Here's a version with normal feet for comparison (and better pose) too.
Never made the connection but the shape is pretty close to Mk-V's, yeah. Or at least the front part given the size.
The GP01 long rifle came with a bootleg of Geminass 02, don't ask me why, but it's pretty snazzy. It's the system weapon mold so it's quite detailed and can be changed to the normal rifle or a different kind with a grenade launcher.
Agreed on the booster, at this point my hope is somebody bootlegs the p-bandai mass production Owsla since that's the entire Advanced Hazel + Primrose bundled together.

>>23422720
F89 is an asspull because there is no proper timeline for its standalone development, it's just there
At some point more proper connections between the different UC eras need to be made, and the Hazel line would need its own peak-of-tech/send-off suit like the ZZZ/Lambda is for Project Zeta

gotta get the HMT bootleg
and also hope we get a non-F00 kit of it

>>23422830
>and the Hazel line would need its own peak-of-tech/send-off suit like the ZZZ/Lambda is for Project Zeta
but the peak of tech/send-off suit of the Hazel line is the ZZZ/Lambda, it's literally the Hrair and its entire deal with being Lambda/ZZZ is, personally, quite contrived and pretty silly itself and a poor fit in what was already a convoluted development timeline.
F89 is less an asspull and more just dumb. There's ample time for the development of miniaturized MS between HF and F90. F89 wasn't even made prior to the first small scale MS, and it's just awkwardly inserted to no real end except to end up as the Anchor later. It's honestly weird to me to be so insistent on a nearly 30 year old project remaining relevant as some lynchpin for MS miniaturization, it makes the setting that much smaller and unncessarily incestuous, and overinflates the importance of a small thinktank in a single war that they lost by having it echo out that far in all directions. And for what it's worth, I feel similarly about some of the F90 packs. There's no reason to have an F90 testing MDS that early. The F99 having it early and just 'whoopsies all the data was blown up guess we can't make it again' was silly, but having a prototype 20 years before THAT makes it even more insane - and in the end SNRI-turned-BESPA aren't even the ones to make the one design in animation that has it (and originally introduced it). It's all goofy, and linking everything back to the TR project is basically the exact same thing.

Decided to mostly dust off my Advanced Hazel too since I'm posting anyway. I really like Build Mk-II's long beam rifles, but I'm still figuring out a way to incorporate the movable shields. They're cool half shields half versatile weapon holders that leave the hands free and they can combine with the Build Mk-II's backpack subarms to double as boosters too, though I'm not using that here.

I've always wanted to have a Hazel using Xeku Eins machine gun with one subarm holding onto it for support. But the logistics are hard with how huge that gun is, and I have no idea where I'd want to mount the ammo drum. Rear waist seems good but it's directly under the thrusters so kinda awkward.

>>23423076
this is somehow the first time i’m learning of the existence of a hg xeku eins
thank you anon, i have a new white whale

>>23423089
It's an old kit and it shows, but it's not bad by any means. With how releases are nowadays having a retail Xeku HG does feel like a cryptid though.
As a nice bonus it has a little bit of compatibility with the Hazels - the multi connector pod can be equipped with Xeku's leg fuel tank just like in the design drawings. Also seen here >>23423022
It does leave you with a Xeku Eins with one of the tanks missing though.

>>23423096
i was wondering what that little fuel tank was, it adds a lot to the hazel imo.
i don’t mind old kits, my hg ex-s was a little rough but he looks great up on the shelf. i hope the xeku eins gets a reprint sooner rather than later, it’s rough being a fan of both aoz and sentinel

Where does the prototype mk II gundam fit into aoz?

>>23423138
Wherever you want it to, baby.

>>23423138
Jokes aside, however you want it to. There's room for it to exist as a (more over) missing link between the GP series and Mk-II, and there's room for that to happen without interfering with anything else. IIRC the Black Otter team didn't even know Gundam Mk-II existed until they got the news that AEUG stole them, so there could be all sorts of things happening during its development.

How does the GP0Z01 Engage Gundam fit between the GP and AOZ series though?

>>23423187
Engage GUNDAM is a what-if paper plan if Engage ZERO was chosen as the basis for the GP series instead of GP00.
The new animation project in UC Engage features it, but it's being tested in UC 0090 so as I understand Anaheim built it at a later date for data verification.
...that said it can still fit in the alternative version of events, or if we assume parts tested on it were used elsewhere instead.

Alright, what about NT-X? How does that fit? besides me wanting to have a Hazel with its rifle and beam guns

>>23423190
That story is the alternate verson of events. Just a whole ass what-if story for fun that treats the Engage Gundam as the winner of the GP Trials instead of the Blossom. So this one in 0090 wouldnt have been the first, as it was already getting upgrades like the Super Engage years earlier. Engage Gundam variants would keep being cranked out until Victory era, and probably beyond, so it likely saw occasional modifications to increase its performance.

As far as what this means for the timeline of events overall, I doubt the story will even touch on it; it will probably stay fairly contained to this one colony dealing with Axis fucking shits, But the events of 0083 likely wouldn't have panned out the exactly the same without the GPs. What the means for the formation of the Titans, and thus A.O.Z. who knows. There are Prototype Zetas around, at least.

>>23423476
>That story is the alternate verson of events.
nta, Source?

>>23422877
Lambda is not an objective end point of all Titans tech
You still need lines of development to Jesta, Gustav Karl, MP Nu, and F90, even if they're dumb

>>23423478
Engage itself, the game.

>>23423484
No, Lambda isn't, but it is as far as its relevance to the Federation line of development goes. The TR-6 is the ultimate Titans weapon but it progresses to ReZeon, not the Federation.

>>23423498
ReZeon is the predecessor to Oldsmobile/Mars Zeon, it's only logical the next step is introducing SNRI

>>23423498
see pic >>23420278

>>23423497
dang, I had a hard time finding vids of the new animation

>>23423506
The TR-6 is far beyond the capabilities of anything it leads to.

>>23423514
You do not understand the material. Lurk more.

>>23423516
feel free to write paragraphs about the Jegan's superiority to the Inle I guess

>>23423519
>>23423516

>>23423520
rousing discussion, glad you were interested in actual discourse instead of acting like a child

>>23423512
Like the other anon said, all the little sequences and variants of the Engage are pure what-if, including following a new OC pilot for it that gets passed around all the factions. Any and every Engage except this one are what-ifs, in "canon" this suit was made and failed against the Blossom and nothing else ever came of it. In the what-if, it won and was apparently god's greatest gundam that fights for a hundred years.

>>23423527
anon, we're talking about Engage Gundam, not Engage Zero...

>>23423528
The Engage Gundam IS the what-if. The Engage Zero is the origin point that exists in all timelines. The Zero is what competes against the Blossom.

>>23423529
then you're not making sense, the story with Peche managing to be on the losing side of every war is not what-if in any sense, it's official content

>>23423478
>>23423512
The over-arching "story" of U.C. Engage is a bunch of floozies with terrible fashion sense watch (You) abuse company resources to play the equivalent of a G Generation game at the end of time. Except now, the database has been altered, so now it's like playing in those /m/ Gihren's Greed Create Your Own Adventure threads, so we got shit like Crossover U.C,E, and "Project EG" out of it.

It's best not to take it seriously, when the people designing it are obviously just having fun.

The EN version just started getting into Crossover U.C.E., but the second chapter of Engage Gundam (and new Moon Gundam chapter) just recently came out in JP, so EN may catch up by the end of the year. Until then its only in Japanese.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQEr2G02lU8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=try3pkhojts

>>23423534
I have no idea what you're trying to say and I think that neither do you

>>23423533
That's the main* timeline, anon, the GP Series won and Engage lost, cementing the foundation of Peche's perma-suffering
(*I guess it's the main timeline, I don't know what the fuck they use Origin GMs for in the animated cutscenes, but then use bog standard GMs in actual gameplay)

well uh
didn't see that one coming
posting it here because it can be useful as Marine Hizack is partially based on it

>>23423538
It's okay to not play gacha, you come off as the type of person who would be bamboozled into spending money, so it's best you dont.

It's really a shit game anyway. Anything worthwhile from it can be seen on youtube.

it's shrimple really

>main timeline
Peche's story with Engage Zero

>what if timeline
where Engage Gundam is made, and apparently the new animated story

>>23423514
a capable pilot in a Jegan can outfight any TRanny MS

>>23423553
The fuck is that? That's no Aqua GM that I know of.

>>23423617
Slop.

>>23423553
Slap these calf units and backpack on Kelderek.
Bam. Kelderek Marine Type.

>>23423514
It's also dependent on expansion packs for those capabilities, and unlike "Core Gundam" type configurations, it's not designed to function well on its own

>>23424255
Careful, anon
Others here don't like bringing up F90 connections

>>23424306
The TR-6 is not merely the Woundwort, it is the Inle.

>>23424308
That'd be pretty fucking silly give they're everywhere.

>>23424308
Actually I just think they're stupid, not that they will or won't be made, and that asking for more is lame. Sorry you lost the nuance of that.

>>23423514
Yeah and a nuke is far beyond the firepower of a drone but guess which one is the talk of the town nowadays

>>23424317
Still nukes, unsurprisingly, which is why the war happening where drones are being used prolifically hasn't and won't ever spoil over into a major war between nuclear powers.

It's rare to have trolls and assorted hostility in this general. Let's make it rarer.

Something's coming.
I'm glad I saw it in a different person's post because FUCKING TWITTER won't let me see a single picture Fujioka posts due to muh "local laws" ffs

>>23424330
oh my fucking god this FUCKING TEASE
AHHHH WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THOSE THIGHS SHOW ME MORE FUJIOKA

>>23424335
it's very very close to what we've already see on El-Ahrairah but it's still clearly a new drawing with a few tweaks.
Actually I take it back, with leg teases like this I understand why twitter blocks it for me.

>>23424338
Yeah, this is very clearly much more realized art. All the shapes are different in detail completely. I just need a good clear look at those thighs. I'm dying to see the subarm mechanism and just what the final shape of the actual thighs will be. The Woundwort-looking elements on the rear and just how they fit together with the front view are eating away at me and I need answers. On the other art it seemed to me like those bulky thigh areas might be a skirt like Hyzenthlay, but in this new art they look much more like the front of some very thick thighs. The rear art makes it look like there's a missing bit or a very strange gap between the rear of the thigh and an overhanging skirt or something, though. I just need to make sense of this.

>>23424310
Point still stands
Titans can't even get a Core Gundam system right, they need expansion packs simply for normal proportioned limbs

>>23424313
>But adding hard points to a pre-Formula MS is going too far

>>23423550
>>23423533
So how long before they cave in and give us a manga with a skinny variant of the GP02?

>>23424375
My guy
Zaku has hard points

>>23424404
Not really. Zakus have hardpoints in general terms, but they're not what "hardpoint" means for the F90 and so on. Hardpoints explicitly connect equipment which utilize fuel and power from the base machine without any significant maintenance to add or remove. Zakus just store shit. Many MS have some basic weapon racks or jettisonable weapons, but those are distinct from the hot-swappable hardpoint system that can accommodate anything from a beam rifle to minovsky craft to sensor suites.

>>23424417
Hot-swappable hardpoints are also much more cost-effective and less intrusive than a "modular" system that sacrifices functionality of the base unit for the sake of large, cumbersome, complicated expansion packs to increase performance

>>23424338
I need this as a model kit BADLY

>>23424478
with the way things are going, I could totally see it and ReHaze kits in next ~3 years or so, and a 3rd party resin kit before that

>>23424488
>ReHaze
Any day now...

>>23424349
I just noticed the forearms here look very similar to the shoulder armor reinforcement on the [el-ahrairah]. Do we know if the hrair folds up its arms similar to the woundwort to attach the giant arms when in [el-ahrairah] configuration? How’s it holding its rifle and shield if that’s the case?

>>23424571
the forearms are equipped with missile launchers, same type we see popping up with Barzam and Hrududu Thethuthinnang because they're TR-S standard parts. Hrair has them mounted on the forearms, you can see it right there too >>23424330
That being said the arms themselves appear to share parts with Woundwort so there could be some kind of collapsing feature.

wake up babe new (old) OYW suit leg thrusters just dropped

Are those gray bits on the Barzam legs supposed to be vents?

>>23424349
it's so strange to claim the TR-S comes from the Hazel lineage when it shares a lot of construction with the Woundwort
drum frame and the arms look very similar at least

>>23425022
That or thrusters, but I'm leaning towards vents especially when the legs already have massive thrusters right there

>>23425028
TR-S and TR-6 are siblings, they both come from Hazel and the rest of the TR series

>>23425028
it's a Typhoon-Rafale situation, they're both building off the same building blocks but slightly different

I wanna see Kelderek with BD-style leg thrusters and Ground Gundam backpack

>>23425358
Oh man, a Kelderek with the weapons container pack is a 10/10 idea. If only I had one I'd mock that up right now. Shame the Ez-SR didn't come with it.

>>23425363
I don't have it either myself, but I DO have regular Ez-8 and its parachute pack. If time permits I'll give that a try tomorrow, could also be interesting.

Ever since I learned of the existence of the TR-S, I have become extremely disinterested in my copious amounts of TR-6 kits

>>23425928
Can I buy them off you then

>>23426205
Oh, that's nice. Those shoulders are very interesting

holy fuck

>>23426366
Isn't the scale super off here?

>>23426368
Primrose Magnum is a rare variant mainly used for propaganda

jp twitter is going nutty analyzing the new glimpse of Hrair, this is one example of many https://x.com/matsuyama400/status/1952953128783065512
>>23426219
It's a wacky combo of Hazel and Ez-SR

>>23426449
putting a fragile camera on the bit of the shield specifically designed to ram into the enemies and/or the ground feels like a questionable design decision at best. What's going on with the sides of the legs? i can't tell what those.. thrusters? are

>>23426755
it's a Buildshit design it's not supposed to make sense

>>23426755
It's just for fun, don't sweat the small stuff.

As time goes on, the various custom builds only feel more appropriate.

>>23427195
Do you think Fujioka ever sees custom builds and goes "hey that's a cool idea, I should add this to the canon"?

>>23427197
he retweets this kind of stuff all the time so...

>>23427220
not sure how to read that, anon

>>23427261
Disappointing.

>>23427261
That Hazel is painted in the colors of Larry Foulke, A.K.A "Solo Wing" Pixy, a character from the Ace Combat series and the guy in the pic

>>23427278
I assure you anon that is not the reference

>>23427286
I reject your reality and impose my own

>>23427195
>Blending Xeku Eins and Marasai shields together
>Short barrel extension with grenade launcher added
Inspired tobedesu

>>23427195
very true

Anyone know which MS had the Zeon Alive!!! symbol painted on it? I thought it was the Rehaize but I can't find it anywhere

>>23430344
stutzer series?

>>23430356
That's the one cheers anon!

>wiki page for the Hyzenthlay II replaced the Flag of Titans design for the ReBoot redesign
How you're holding up, OGzenthlaybros? The walls are closing in.

Up to us the keep the flame alive.

Barzam is a Gundam.

Wish they'd make AOZ option parts sets. It's a crime that the only way to get a 1/144 gundam gigachad chin (besides scratchbuilding) is the Hazenthley II or Pban Hrairoo

>>23430760
AK is making some stuff at least and they are including some new shit like the Reboot redesign of the CSB
one can always hope for more

>>23430760
Watership 4.5 probably has them if you're willing to handle resin. And can actually buy their stuff...

Gallus-J (Bellows Frame equipped Type)

>>23431895
Reaching for greater lengths

So I just built the HG Reben and can see why everyone was raving about it. It's rock solid yet jam-packed with quality engineering almost frustratingly so (not a fan of keyhole joints, they're going to make disassembly a pain.) Didn't expect new weapon molds since it uses the same loadout as Dogas but it was a welcome surprise. That said, I kind of wish I bought more than one but knowing Bandai I'm sure it will spawn at least a few variants. Pic related

I’m a little confused reading the wiki, does the Reben wolf have quasi-Psycommu capabilities, or was that just optional equipment for the prototype?

>>23432409
Bandai has a habit of randomly deciding to make new molds even when there's already options for that stuff. Sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Like how HG Primrose comes with Hazel's backpack but strictly inferior color separation despite being made years later.
But yeah, a beauty like Reben makes up for these little things.

>>23432497
AFAIK base config Reben Wolf doesn't have quasi-psycommu nor a loadout that would necessitate it, but it is an optional module that can be installed, same with basically all of Doven Wolf's original equipment.

>>23432497
It can be installed with it and swap over to the Doven INCOM backpack + guided Doven arms. The model even accommodates that too.

>>23434093
I never realized until now, but her silhouette is fairly similar to Zearth, isn't it? Even shares the three-fingered beam hands to crush enemy cockpits

>>23434095
I can see some similarities for sure, but I think there's a big difference because the legs still make up a big part of the silhouette

I love these things

>>23434441
A shame this is pretty much the only time they ever show up

>>23434454
>>23434441
What mobile suits had these?

>>23434471
Hazenthley II.

ZZZ fanart has so much potential

>>23434454
the shoulders are such prominent parts of the HZ that you'd think Fujioka would give a little more attention to them
I don't think they even show up in the Reboot illustrations at all

>>23434454
In fairness Haze'n-thleys don't show up much in general and they have bigger gimmicks to focus on.
It is still mentioned in Reboot though, so it's not like it disappeared.

Only thing I'm not sure about is if ReHaze still has the weapon bays. I reckon the leg ones are there, but shoulder units probably not since it looks like it has an integrated Hrududu-like unit there.

>>23435490
I don't think so. That said, I'm pretty sure it has some sort of blade launcher on the shoulder pads

>>23435507
actually nevermind, turns out it explicitly has weapon containers in the shoulders
and yeah, it has a few tri-blades too. ReZeon loves them as an extra utility weapon.

>>23434557
Feels like a Nagano design

>>23430344
You probably got mixed up because of this old pic.

>>23434557
God I want to know how ZZZ reconciles the Hrair design with the Nero torso which it supposedly has. This piece of fanart kicks ass, but it's missing the link to the nero.

>>23436658
One idea i've seen is about the rear boosters there, they're in similar placement. I don't think Nero's are just fuel tanks there, they're standard equipment that's always there whereas the other ones are explicitly noted as optional equipment.
The other big one is the shoulders - Nero is equipped with movable frame latches for mounting gear and spare weapons there, and the outer armor can be removed or replaced too. For example Trainer version has full-blown AMBAC stabilizers attached there, and there might be a beam cannon equipped form too. By all accounts Hrair should be using the same shoulders we see on Titans-spec Barzam II, which are based on Hazel Owsla and the main defining feature of them are optional equipment latches.

These are different structures, but they are similar concepts - I mean, the main link between S Gundam and Nero's lower body is having beam sabers in the knees, this isn't unreasonable either.
As for the torso, that's the big issue here since we don't really know what's going on in there for Hrair. It has a Primrose in there, but the exact structure is a mystery and what we've seen so far doesn't add up with either Hazel or Woundwort style design. But either way, simplified mass produced models rarely implement high spec escape pods like that so it'd make sense if it was replaced with conventional structure. And since there are no main generators in legs or shoulders like S, it has one big unit within the torso, setting it apart from both Lambda and Iota.

>>23436986
That rotation gimmick is a bit forced

>>23436991
we know the missile launcher can do it somehow, this is just an idea how it works. Given this is TR it makes sense that's the sort of thing that can be reconfigured by just switching a part around a little rather than being a full blown separate weapon. Plus, it looks like Zeta's grenade launcher now.

>>23436935
Torso is closer to the ReZEL

>>23434557
>>23436658
>>23436935
>Anaheim electronics finally gets a hazel in its prime and reverse engineering it to make a ZZZ gundam
>The possibilities are endless in modularity
>Instead they simplify it and the iota into what’s basically just a glorified Nemo that’s only better than the jegan through armor
How the fuck did they fumble so hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn5S2DyS8Tk

>>23437210
Nero contributes directly to Jegan's development which in turn remains Federation's mainstay for nearly 30 years. Every new mass produced MS strives to be the Jegan of the new generation.

>>23437214
I know, and it in itself was pretty modular with its frame. But alas they retired all of them except the modern J type and look how that turned out

>>23437220
J, M and R types are all still many years old by the time of F91, no different from GM IIs in Zeta or even worse, really. They're just a backwater low priority garrison suddenly facing some of the absolute cutting edge mobile suits around.

>>23437232
Yeah lol, apparently they did “ok” during the Oldsmobile battles where they were on par with the slightly better RF zaku’s. Also for whatever reason they were still active during the Jupiter wars and were apparently retired in UC 151! That’s two years before the zanscare did their thing

>>23437269
Yeah early type RFs were mostly intended to fight low-powered garrisons with Jegans and BR-GMs for example.
And it makes sense some are still around decades later. The colonies are functionally independent, but that means they spend more time fighting each other and posturing rather than forming a large, credible threat to the Federation which in turn doesn't give many shits about these things. Even by F91 most of EFF is just a glorified welfare service rather than a proper armed force.

>>23437328
slut

>>23437447
stay focused on the topic nonny

I don't care how. I don't care what for. I don't care what way.
I just want to see MP Psycho referenced in AoZ.

>>23439958
It's a lot smaller right? So you could feasibly replace a Gaplant's limbs without turning it into a gigantic-style backpack

>>23439964
It's a lot smaller than Psychos Mk-I through III but still a big fucking bastard, I don't think it'd work for regular limb replacement but also it'd be unimpressive for gigantic form so it's in a strange middle spot.

>>23439971
The limbs look like they could extend, but they don't, they just look that way

>>23440049
Not really getting that impression myself to be honest. It's just chonky and covered in weapons almost head to toe.

Bawoo is uniquely submissive and barzamable

okay, so the top hole is for Xeku Eins fuel tank
but, um, what's Adv Hazel's bottom hole for...?

The best part about the Titans gear is that there's so much room for random AEUG fellas to use some parts of it.

>>23440393
I think anon says that due to the way the calves are shaped, it definitely looks like there's an extra section that can fold outwards to extend the leg. And the way the forearm beam guns are mounted also looks like they con fold outwards to enlongate the arms for some reason
>>23440899
Do you really have to ask?

>>23442235
I can sorta see it when you put it like that, yeah. There's a lot of very different shapes and surfaces going on so people might expect they move and shfit around, especially compared to other Psychos and Doven that have more smooth lines. I kinda like that twist, helps convey there's a shit ton of stuff packed into the chassis so it looks kinda messy especially at first glance.
And for what it's worth the forearm guns are INCOMs so they can provide greater reach in a way.

>>23440668
>barzamable
I hate that this is now an unironic legitimate term and threat within the Gundam franchise now

>>23442289
t. Nemo pilot

>>23425363
>>23425437
Tad later than tomorrow, but I tried to put it together. The backpack connections are completely different of course and the parachute is a bit heavy so it's tough to show it off. Tried to do a landing pose but it's easier said than done on a quick mockup.
Also threw other gear I had laying around, the true Kelderek way.

>>23442736
Also featuring very amateurish riff on the classic Hazel pose with Messala's claws.
Out of view: Messala with two shield boosters in place of the claws. The silhouette works remarkably way, but I'm not gonna post it because she's dusty as hell and I love her but she's a nightmare to get standing for a photo.

>>23442740
what gun is that?

>>23442743
GP01's long rifle, the kit is one of the System Weapon packs. Or, well, the original is. This is a bootleg of it that came with Dragon Momoko's Geminass 02 for some reason. Don't ask why, nobody knows.

>>23442752
The way the image is arranged makes it look like the rifle fires beam sabers, handle and all.

>>23442753
Looks a bit less silly with the other page but the scans are a tad iffy

;_;

>>23443049
Being a professional illustrator, you'd expect him to know how to take decent pictures, but here we are. Building a model kit with just one hand is certainly impressive though, I didn't know he was paralyzed that badly. Wonder how he manages art? Can't really hit all the hotkeys with the hand that holds the pen

>>23443049
One handed?

>>23443054
it's just a quick and simple pic for twitter, god knows most peoples pics aren't any better
>Wonder how he manages art? Can't really hit all the hotkeys with the hand that holds the pen
why do you think the manga's on hiatus for the fourth year now and the art comes out every two weeks at absolute fastest?
>>23443055
he had a brain hemorrhage in 2019, took two years to return to work at all. half his body is almost completely paralyzed, he's wheelchair-bound most of the time
to quote from the anniversary message:
>It's also the 25th anniversary of AOZ. Half of my life is now made up of the creative work I spent on AOZ. After half a century, half of my body has gone to heaven, but the happiness more than makes up for that disability.

>>23443102
God bless this man. He is doing the best work in mecha rn with his designs. A flame that burns twice as bright is bound to have to some accidents i suppose

>>23440668
it keeps fucking happening man. Even if it's not outright Barzamed, it's still getting Titans gear
>>23442289
tags: corruption, moral degeneration, fempov

dang they work quick

>>23442740
The Messala in question. The shields add a lot more bulk than I expected, honestly. There could be something to this idea, gotta do something with Messy after so much of it is stolen away for Holst gear after all.

Third party Gelgoog III. Not sure if it looks too gribbly compared to the lineart. Height seems to be about 16cm.

>>23444591
Not TOO gribbly, it's pretty bearable
but definitely waaay too lanky, the bell bottoms and shoulders should be a good size larger, the ankles look awfully thin here.
>>23444595
Including Regelgu shoulders is pretty inspired though, I'll give 'em that

>>23444442
I never noticed how massive Messala's beam sabers are. Are they ZZ sized?

>>23446243
They’re quite large but not to the level of hyper beam sabers, they have quite the length however

>>23446243
I sadly don't have a ZZ kit or anything else with hyper beam sabers to compare, but they are damn long. The full hilt roughly as long Hazel's entire arm from shoulder to wrist without the hand itself. Thinner than her forearm though, so it's a very different impression from truly tremendous sabers that just throb with raw power.
I have been thinking of a way to have a Hazel use one but not sure how yet. And I dunno if I wanna cannibalize ALL of my Messala's gear like that, I have plans for Messy herself too.

>>23446243
>>23446286
Oh, and with the beam saber blade it's almost as long as a CSB with its heat blade

Hrair reveal tomorrow

>>23446310
they come out at 5 goddamn AM for me, I'm not sure if I should just skip sleeping or go to bed stupidly early

>"Barzamu, the CHADtans are coming to reclaim what was theirs, we need to fuse!"
>"Mou ii, Woundoworto. Throw me the earring."

>>23446457
>>23446459
>>23446461
kino

>>23446457
>>23446459
>>23446461
Subarashi

hmmmm

All this technology and not a single Earthnoid was ever killed this guy. Gihren would've been proud.

Kit is good, but it suffers from being based on the TR-6 mold. Particularly on the legs, way too much crap going on at the hips because of the TR-6 transformation. Makes it a bit annoying to make sure both legs are plugged in all the way. The Hyzenthlay II kits suffer from the same issue. Glad to have a TR-6 beam saber in kit form though, if only there was a cheaper way to get a bunch of them.

Was gonna start on the Reben Wolf next, but I realized I don't have a waterslide decal of the Mars Zeon insignia and don't know where to get one. Gonna leave it on the backburner for now.

>>23446591
where'd you cop that rifle? Also, I know that's how it is in the artwork, but I can't get over the shield booster being backwards on the barzam ii

>>23446602
It's third party. The maker is AK/Effect Wings. I got mine from AliExpress, it's available in test colors white, Titans blue, Black Hares black and ReZeon red. It’s pretty good, if a tad pricey. Don't have a lot of options though, I don't see Bandai ever making it themselves considering it's only seen on the Kehaar II and Hazel Icarus. The Kehaar II HG doesn't have it and, since it seems Bandai is done with the Flag of Titans line, I don't think a HG Hazel Icarus kit is happening. Now, I'm not sure of AK is big brained or what, but you know how with kits with long rifles often have the problem of the stock being too big to comfortably fit under the arm? So you can never quite get a good aiming pose with them because of the forearm getting in the way? No such problems here. The rifle handle is thin enough that you have some clearance in the hand grip to tuck it under the arm and still have it pointing it straight ahead. The TR-6/Barzam hand mold not having a dedicated trigger finger definitely helps too.

AK also made the red TR-6 that I posted. It's pretty good. A kit killer for the actual Bandai HG TR-6 if you ask me even, since it comes with the longer (and cooler) heat blade only seen in the RX-121 Hyzenthlay kits. The arm joints are really tight too, a problem I had with the HG TR-6 was the arms being a tad too loose for the massive CSB it's supposed to wield. And in my experience it's easier to deal with a joint that is too tight OOB than one that is too loose.

>Also, I know that's how it is in the artwork, but I can't get over the shield booster being backwards on the barzam ii
Building the kit you can see why. The Bazam antenna gets in the way if you point the shield forward like with the Hazel. Even backwards it can be a bit awkward. I'm sure in Fujioka's mind the shield has a wider range of movement, but Bandai doesn't have that luxury.

>>23446591
Wouldn't be an AoZ kit without some awkwardness or just weird engineering going on.

>>23446591
It woulda been really nice to get newly molded thighs that were much, much more solid with sensible, non-transforming joints. A little glue goes a long way on them.

https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot82/

fucking G-Dash lmao

>>23446986
And so much for PR DII being transpack compatible by design, oh well. Psycho Mk-IV being compatible makes up for it lol

>>23446986
Explicit displays of the Mudrock and Ground Gundam backpacks make me happy. Honestly think the little grabby arm process here is a bit off. I don't get the impression most Gundam backpacks were ever so cleanly designed as self contained units to just be detached, but rather actually with elements hard connecting them into the torso for at least fuel/power lines and probably structural mounts and even thruster cavities given how little room some have to work with. At that point I feel like they have to do a lot of custom work to detach it and make it an operable unit; why not just more directly attach it to a Primrose? The thing about the bellows frame attachment holding the backpacks is that, well, where does it go? It can't really compress down and make it flush with the backpack unless spaces are carved out for it. The only real reason it even has that frame far as I can tell is so it can rotate the backpack for the Primrose form, which I'm certain could have been done with a sleeker solution than this bellows frame.

I love the GM III loadout of the Primrose, it looks neat carrying the hip missile pods especially. The spotlight on the Kelderek layout of it is great too. Strange it has the extra mounting brackets but they didn't put the TR-6 style launchers on them. Those, GM III shoulders and Pale Rider leg missiles would really make this Kelderek Owsla (Zssa). The more I see it the more I yearn for the G-Line Assault backpack too.

TR Project peaked here.

>>23447024
now give it Psyco arms

>>23446986
stealing

Before we get into the sheer insanity of the options, a brief description of just what makes this possible: the [Primrose], serving as [Owsla]'s chest block, cockpit and escape pod as well as an independent mobile pod-type machine. It retains the Transpack system easy switching to different backpacks providing versatility and specialization for different situations and environments. [Primrose] can still make use of that when operating independently, transferring the utility of that system to a mobile pod platform. The core of this system is a Bellows Frame structure.
[Primrose]'s cockpit block, front chest armor and frame that makes up the nose unit are all equipped with joints and latches. These can mount Bellows Frame arms, which in turn can equip all kinds of weapons and other gear. [Primrose] can still operate them after detaching from the MS, providing the pilot with self-defense and survivability - a recovery system introduced to prevent losses of Titans' elite pilots.
Bellows Frame enables power transfer and control system linkup, so it's functionally very similar to a mobile suit's arm, maintaining similar flexibility as well as a range of movement that would not be present if the equipment was mounted directly onto the latch. It can also attach itself onto other latches to create more advanced structures out of pre-existing parts and do anything else one can expect of a simple limb. These traits were later adopted in Gundam TR-6's Universal Conversion System, enabling more sophisticated functions via BUNNyS control.

>>23446986
We have some nice lineart here for the [Primroses], each corresponding to the already seen [Kelderek Owslas] - a high mobility form with Gundam High Mobility Type's backpack, TR-S type missile launchers and a double beam rifle; a mid-range support type with Mk-V's beam rifle and a G-Line backpack (notably different loadout than the associated [Kelderek]; and a next-generation prototype with GM III's backpack and missile launchers. With the last one in particular you can see the Bellows Frame mounted on the underside holding onto the missile launchers.
The chart in top left is about the aforementioned Bellows Frame arms on Primrose, showing how and where exactly they connect, plus reiterating what was already said. From the model kit perspective, treat it a gimmick to help "ground" kitbashes and playing around with 3mm connections. We also have a few examples of what weapons it can hold - the beginning of this descent into madness. Simple enough for now. Fedayeen rifle. Long blade rifle. ...Heavy Gundam's frame launcher? Full Armor 7th's long range beam cannon? Alrighty.
Next up we have a big ol' chart of backpacks, reiterating and expanding on Trans Pack options as well as showing off what the Grapple Arm can do. The Transpack backpacks are the same old classic spiel- huh?
Psycho Mk-IV's backpack, would you look at that? Makes sense, really. Aaaaand at the end is Zaku Mariner's backpack. In fairness it has been mentioned to be replacable for as long as it existed but it's a little bit insane when Mariner is still built on the old MS-06 platform and parts. And when Galbaldy Beta didn't get that kind of luxury, though in fairness it is an older model.
Then there's the smorgasbord of options the grapple arm enables, from various GM and Gundam models to other stuff (even Ground Type's weapon rack!) to the likes of G-Line. Really, I'm just surprised that Pale Rider DII isn't transpack compatible out of the box.

>>23446986
Almost last but certainly not least, we have a reminder that [Kelderek]'s mission is collecting data on any and all previous generation Federation equipment made during and after the One Year War in order to make for a comprehensive foundation for new equipment and the next-generation Gundam TR-S. And just what that means.
[Primrose] alone can serve as an equivalent to a Core Fighter - or rather, its cockpit and nosecone I think, given the size. But what that means is that it can use anything these and similar planes used. It's fun to see the Core Booster and G-Figher together side by side.
Large equipment attached onto the backpack can also be stuck onto [Kelderek], like the Fellow Booster, Lightliner ooorrr Heavy Full Armor 7th Gundam's uh, everything. Turn your [Kelderek] into a baby Dendrobium today!
Oh and you can just put the upper half on Guntank threads. Or use [Primrose] in G-Bull.
G-Dash is here. What the fuck.
Now for the end, we finally have a nice, big detailed lineart of [Kelderek Owsla]. The [Primrose] and its next generation form gear are highlighted, while everything else remains regular [Kelderek] gear.

>>23446986
It seems that the B-parts are missing from the diagram.. well they're sorta there in the form of the G-Sky.

I was just reading Walpurgis the other day and noticed that a PMC faction was fielding GMs fitted with upgraded B-parts as a sort of high speed interceptor.

>>23447015
by and large backpacks are described as detachable - even if going the extra mile to make them interchangeable is more than the usual, it's pretty common for them to be described as a separate unit distinct from the torso itself
there was a good graph on that in MS Bible with some more info, trying to hunt it down right now
regarding the grapple arm, the graphs make it look like the empty space between the backpack and back is pretty miniscule once the arm is contracted, functionally close enough that on a model kit you can just attach it directly onto the backpack

>>23447041
>by and large backpacks are described as detachable
yep

>>23446986
It's really nice to have good Kelderek lineart but damn, the leg thrusters really do stick closely to the leg
how the hell do I make it work with G-Line's thrusters? >>23422805

Counting on anons from non-fucked areas to share here in case Fujioka posts any MS girl art or anything else since all of his posts are still locked for us in EU.

>>23446986
Having Psycho Mk-IV's backpack here is really cool. Not only does it enable fun ideas by sticking it onto other suits (I wonder how BUNNyS plays with Psycho Plates?) but gives Mk-IV itself more depth. There's room for alternative loadout options that don't rely on very experimental new Psycommu tech, or going for a different style of a NT unit and for example mounting Hazel booster pod + Hrududu II and a Gigantic Arms unit. It should work very well with them.
Not to mention we know G-Doors is Unit 3 of the Mk-IV line, and there's at least two others that are likely to have different loadouts too. This helps imagine what could be different about them, since the backpack is easily replacable. As a bonus it also connects to how the beam rifle is some kind of offshoot or refined version of the standard Mk-II rifle which was talked about at length already.

>>23447124
just wheelchair selfies

>>23447024
As was foretold.

>>23446986
>>23447136
All this talk makes me long for a proper G-Doors kit (how many Moon remolds are they going to make before then...?!) Would love to deck it out with TR parts

>>23447254
we haven't had any Moon remolds, just two color variations. One came with the long rifle but that's it. A proper full Psycho Mk-IV kit would only get to reuse the head and psychoplates with a bit of the backpack added.

>>23447254
>Moon Gundam Long Rifle ver.
>Moon Gundam Clear Color ver.
>Varguil
>Varguil Clear Color ver.
>Varguil w/ Gundam Head and Psychoplates
The Horror Won't End.jpg

>>23447323
Here's one more for the list.

>>23447525
What's even different?

>>23447533
The chest.
Pretty rare to have such a subdued upgrade though, it's a little strange.

>>23447536
Oh, I see now. The shoulders are too. Eh.

>>23447554
It's subtle but I think it's a nice change

>>23447525
Bandai wouldn't, would they?
Oh who am I kidding they absolutely would...

>>23447637
regular release too

>>23447637
I mean, it's been I think nearly two years and not a whisper of a kit of it so...
>>23447775
yeah nah, it was already a minor miracle Moon was retail. But in 2025? it's just not gonna happen

>>23440899
>>23442235
Okay but jokes aside what IS it for? I've heard it's for gaplant booster but I couldn't find any pictures and can't verify it myself. And it doesn't seem like the right shape.

>>23448012
maybe for a stand?

>>23443102
Oh wow, I hadn't realized Kenki was still doing the mechanical illustrations, when he posts sketches they're rough and have a distinct look to them so I thought the precise line and coloring had been passed off to another artist for good.

>>23447637
Bandai please, a new Gelgoog kit, whether it be a revive, origin(they could do 20 of these), or Gelgoog III. Something, anything, I'm begging you

>>23448101
We just got a new gelgoog kit, and you want ANOTHER?

>>23448101
>>23448103
Yeah with that Chink Gelgoog III announcement I'd rather Bandai skip it for now. It might not turn out be the perfect rendition of it but it's better than nothing. And if Bandai skips it for something else it only increases the range of options for available AoZ kits. I'm hoping for a Titans Barzam II or for Advanced Hrairoo parts set.

>>23448101
Marine and Jaeger could use a revive for sure but honestly regular Gelgoog is pretty fine. Has flaws, and can't compare with modern kits, but on its own it's a good kit of the Gelgoog. Plus, if we got a new one now there's no shot it'd come with Cannon equipment which is half the fun of it.
Anyway I'd much rather have a Zaku III. One of the very first HGUCs and the only without a revive. Great timing now too with ZZ releases starting up. Would be sweet to get Mars Zeon's RG-type and assorted stuff too. Probably a totally different mold compared to regular Zaku III, but it could still be compatible the way Doven and Reben are.

>>23446986
Now I really, really need a primrose bootleg. And Hrududu. A shield booster bundle would be nice too.

there are no limits anymore
>>23448016
it'd be a really damn weird place for it given it's a movable booster pod on the backpack, it'd have to be pulled all the way and angled downward to be stable at all, and it's not like Advanced Hazel is back heavy in the first place.
That said it's very strange because there is no latch or anything else there in the design drawings, whereas there is a mounting point right above for the fuel tank.

>>23449010
It's insane that now you can slap any sort of combination using various OYW donut steel MS equipment onto a black Hazel II and Fujioka will go "Yup, that totally happened."

I love it though.

>>23449083
If it was fanmade ideas people would think it's bullshit, that it doesn't make sense, that it doesn't fit muh real robot big strong man UC or whatever the hell.
But Fujioka just went and did it because he knows it's all about fun.

>>23447592
You know, this is basically a wheelchair, so we might consider it Fujioka's self-insert. Who am I kidding we know he self inserts as the bunnygirls

>>23449281
>spoiler
basedbasedbased

One more wannabe Kelderek from me, probably the last one unless something inspires me something fierce and I have the parts for it
>A concept:
Messala's claw units mounted on the forearms as we've seen, but now using a Bellows Frame joint in between for greater flexibility, including extending forwards for more range. Potentially better performance than even on the Messala. Chance of technological link to Messala Glashtin's claw arms and Unicorn AA VN.
In kit form, this is replicated by simply using the second polycap in the claws. The proportions work out very nicely, the claw unit is still visibly attached to the forearm, even an entire open hand fits in snugly without getting in the way of the claws, and it just works well since that polycap has more movement range.
>A bonus
Using Hrairoo's beam spray gun II thing. Small, doesn't get in the way and has a nice appeal for this loadout while also retaining the expandability of Hazel's beam rifle. Probably? We've seen it with the heat blade config but it hasn't been mentioned since the new equipment was explained.
>A cry for help
What the hell do I do with the G-Line thrusters??? With the new lineart we see how these thrusters really do fit onto the entire leg rather than being mounted onto one point, but we don't have an example of how that works with G-Line's! These are just completely flat on the back, there's no world where Quel's legs will match it, and Custom's sleeker proportions are unlikely to change enough. Plus I don't like Custom's legs.
Do I just accept they're gonna stick out like that and pray that when we get art of Kelderek with G-Line thrusters it won't employ 2d witchcraft to make them fit together?

youuu yankie fucks
one job, just to check Fujioka's twitter and keep us updated because EU's fucked
"Just wheelchair selfies" you said.

He posted about the 100th volume, here's a quick and dirty translation:
>Thank you. The Gundam Inle series has reached its 100th instalment.
>This work began as AOZ reboot, but there have been many ups and downs. I never imagined that I would have to reboot my life due to illness.
>I had almost given up on writing, but thanks to the support of everyone who cheered me on, I was able to resume writing and make it this far.
>I am aiming to resume the main manga series as well, so
please continue to support me in the future.

And then the Hrair teaser posted earlier, with this:

>I am delighted to receive such a positive response from so many people.
>Thank you for your valuable thoughts.
>I am glad that I did not die at that time.
>If those thoughts reach the publisher, I believe that the main story will resume as soon as possible, so please continue to support us.

One thing is the chance for the manga to start up soon, another thing is that he's feeling up for it, and lastly just the message itself. This shit's important, damn it. He's happy.

>>23449603
>>A cry for help
You will just have to accept it. Fujioka isn't really concerned on how it would fit onto the leg in the way that it does on the art. That's not his problem. You could to some rather extensive rework and carve out the inside of the thursters so they fit more snugly onto the leg though I think. Haven't really looked at the parts of my G-Line kit yet.

>>23449603
>Plus I don't like Custom's legs.
Well, you gotta accept that his Keldereks are GM Custom proportioned now rather than the old days of gigafat FoT Quel thighs... There's just no other way.

>>23449670
It's not an issue on Standard Armor because it has a big flat surface on the calves to attach them, though on the kit it's just one peg so they're technically movable but I have no idea if anything depicts or suggests they can actually move and aren't just static boosters.
>>23449700
Proportions are a spook, Quel and Custom are mostly the same thing so Quel proportions are Custom proportions. The GM Custom kit is an agent of Satan.

>>23449619

I fuckin love this strange little community.
This is great news to hear, we need to keep our energy at max, and our chakras aligned folks. We still got some road left till we get to Hrair, and I wanna see me the Lambda Gundam and all the other SSD goodies.

>>23449915
Mfw I look at shipping costs for gunpla to my country

>>23449603
>Hrairoo's beam spray gun II
it fits well
Kelderek is contractually obligated to always use some random weird shit whenever possible

>>23451040
those legs will always look like ass

>>23451040
those legs will always be awesome

>>23451040
King Gainer, too, is TR plan.

>>23451588
looks really nice but what's up with the Woundy hands on the shoulders

>>23451588
Yes, I want more of this
>>23451599
For handling extra... beam sabers
>>23451606
Like so. Now she can take on like, four enemies at once!

>>23451606
yeah fair enough honestly, that's neat
>>23451655
waow... i really admire her when you put it like that

Wanted to show my shield booster Messala again but the dang 3mm shoulder joint snapped. Easy enough fix but trying to interpret if this is a cosmic sign to stop blogposting.

>>23451692
eh, Fujioka wouldn't want me to be a bitch
Shoulder unfucked for the moment, gonna have to be careful with the joints though.
Really the only reason I'm posting this is that it I think it makes for a nice silhouette, similar yet different from the usual.

>>23451798
Bonus: simplified transformation for data verification before practical tests (couldn't be arsed to make it fit in with the legs)
Again interesting shapes, with the arms snugly in the boosters the shields need extra joints to fit well but a few extra joints handle that just fine. It'd be fun to do this with some extra gear on the shield boosters, like the big missile pods for a bombardment config.
Of course this Messala's boosters will ultimately end up on a Hazel or something but it's fun to theorycraft in case I can get another one or if it inspires someone. And to hit image bump limit faster.

>>23451798
>eh, Fujioka wouldn't want me to be a bitch
Actually, I think he wants everyone to be a bitch. Cool custom, though a bit under-armed for my taste. Then again, base messala is already under-armed

>>23451861
Neo Zeon hands typed this post

>>23451861
I think I'm know what you mean, and fair enough. This is really less a custom and more just messing around with the parts, the CBS is just for a little more variety. I'd give her some gun if I had anything appropriate that fits in her annoyingly unique hands, but alas. The endgame with her is probably something inspired by Ishigaki's unused drafts, it's awfully convenient the arm gear, shoulders and backpack are used up for Hrududu Holst and that's the parts changed here. And that I've been planning to use her dick elsewhere too, and it's missing here anyway.

Is this hole on the forearm meant for mounting a shield?

>>23451882
Probably. Maybe the Custom's minigunslots there too?
>>23451875
The middle version's shoulder binders are one of my favorite design elements in mecha, and sadly under-utilized

>>23451882
The Reben Wolf specifically has a grenade launcher that would fit in that slot (among other things)

>>23451882
Nothing is explicitly listed but we know it can be equipped with missile launchers there - visually the same as later RF Gelgoog's, see picrel. The Custom comes with them too so it might be in preparation for that and also just to give people room to play with options. In other words...
It's a hole for stuffing anything you want~

>>23451922
regrettably I don't think anything in Gundam will ever match how AGE-2 pulled them off, though it'd be cool to see with Messala. Something something drum frame in the new shoulders...

>>23451981
Trying to think of anything in UC that uses them but I dont' think they start showing up until Victory

>>23452003
Nothing else comes to mind, yeah. I'm sure there's something or other somewhere that fits the style but Contio's the biggest name here which is a little sad...

>>23452026
>>23452003
Bros...

>>23452115
And to be a little more TR-plan about it all

>>23452115
those are just shields, anon

>>23452120
They have thrusters too, but if you meant weapons in the binders as well you just gotta go up a letter.

>>23452163
This one is dumb. Those aren't beam cannons but manipulators meant to capture the Phenex. It has no real purpose outside of Operation Phoenix Hunt.

>>23451798
the g force this thing must have could liquify an oldtype

>>23452211
Those are giant beam sabres as well actually

>>23452213
>>23452242
Oh. But I'd still rather not acknowledge Narrative's existence.

>>23452284
Skill issue, really.

>>23452284
Hey, the Narrative itself is pretty cool, and the modular packs follow the spirit of the TR plan. Plus "We stuck a newtype child's brain/soul into a cockpit and now it-@ acting funny" is also TR plan. Just uhh, ignore everything else

new thread time I reckon, or do we wait till image limit?
>>23452359
Narrative's packs are kinda the reverse of TR Plan's. It goes from the big, fat bulky monster and ultimately ends up at the classic Gundam configuration - with some Nu and Unicorn in there, but both of these are embellishments of the core form as well. It's deconstructing and wearing down rather than changing and evolving.

Reben might be a bit TOO stable

>>23453083
She's just happy to see you

found our baby on wplace, just off the coast of Sydney

>>23453297
>>23453297
>>23453297

Fin.

Thanks for your service.

>>23454082
Samefag don't thank yourself for flooding a thread.