https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGqbypEMcVA
>Power Rangers are now in Fortnite
Is this the last hurrah of PR before it disappears into the ether due Hasbro being terrible businessmen?
anyway Kamen Rider when, he literally drives a bike

>>23427350 (OP)
There is supposed to be a new tv show on the works by Disney, actually, for some reason.

https://www.thewrap.com/live-action-power-rangers-hasbro-disney/

>>23427350 (OP)
>Kamen Rider
The Fortnite people would have to approach Toei for their approval to allow Kamen Rider into Fortnite.

>>23427357
Yeah but that will either go one of two ways.

1. Disney balks in the end because without Sentai footage to let them cheap out on filming it's prohibitively expensive to make the show and they hem and haw until it's too late and the thing gets pulled. Which is exactly what happened to the last reboot.

2. They make one season and it either bombs or just does ok (because PR in the present day is at best a mid tier franchise) and Disney considers it a bomb because it didn't get a billion Disney Plus subscribers to join up and cancels it after the one season. And then PR dies out because they are officially out of people that would want to distribute it and Hasbro nuked their own production companies so they can't do it themselves.

>>23427422
The latter will occur and on top of that, it will be an unambitious MMPR reboot.
Why don't they adapt the new series? King Ohger got lots of Westerners into Sentai. I'm sure that if they kept the same storyline and had better FX, PR would see a renaissance.

>>23427456
The West is notoriously filled with genwunners, especially compared to Japan where a cast being swapped out is an extremely common approach to franchise development.
All the attempts to maintain Power Rangers momentum in the West have been marketing the first team from decades ago, and choosing to simply ignore the issues of doing that.
I heard that King Ohger didn't do that well among the actual child audience because they found it hard to follow, though.

>>23427487
If they choose to adapt King-Ohger they might make more toys, that's what they tried to with Beast Morphers since Go-Busters' toyline is simple.

>>23427456
You want them to adapt King-Ohger because King-Ohger has a fantastic story but chances are they either adapt 1:1 and butcher it like they did with Samurai, or make an original story which doesn't live up to the original. Hate to say it, it's a lose-lose scenario and pretty much why PR adaptations are pointless nowadays it's better to just export Sentai.

I know people will point out Time Force (and I guess arguably In Space?) for accurate adaptations, but it's a one in a million chance.

>>23427531
I'd actually prefer Boonboomger be adapted, but King-Ohger has a better chance of success.
>it's better to just export Sentai
They can forget about having a Western child audience, then. And we can forget about having toys in the West outside HLJ and the occasional SHF at a hobby shop, as well as the good Western-exclusive toys like the mini Zords and Zordbuilder. I like mix and match robots, sue me.

>>23427531
>it's better to just export Sentai.
the thing is, as much as Hasbro is sitting on the corpse of PR, they wont let a 'rival' IP enter their territory

>>23427554
At this point they might as well go full weeb and shoot for that crowd. Power Rangers will never be what it was in the 90s. That kind of universal pop culture is dead because it's not just filtered through the few tv networks there's now a million niches and very few mainstream things. It might not make as much money as Power Rangers in it's prime but they're never getting that kind of success again.

>>23427580

It's technically the same IP, they get paid no matter what. Given how Hasbro just wants to have other people do the work for them and take their license cut rather than fund or work anything themselves, that might be the best option for them. Let Japan shoot the show and make the toys, bring it over with minimal effort, get their cut.

>>23427350 (OP)
>Kamen Rider
That depend entirely on how well Zeztz perform

>>23428192
>At this point they might as well go full weeb and shoot for that crowd. Power Rangers will never be what it was in the 90s. That kind of universal pop culture is dead because it's not just filtered through the few tv networks there's now a million niches and very few mainstream things. It might not make as much money as Power Rangers in it's prime but they're never getting that kind of success again.
PR is also too mismanaged to ever grow into something new. The way they did it back then and the West's genwunnerism, plus the damage already done, its never really gonna get that popularity back. When Saban got it back they simultaneously sought to chase nostalgia but decided their audience was 5 years old and got neither.
Now all it has is bad comics that like everything else, just chases MMPR nostalgia because thats all the people who still pay attention to PR care about.

>It's technically the same IP, they get paid no matter what. Given how Hasbro just wants to have other people do the work for them and take their license cut rather than fund or work anything themselves, that might be the best option for them. Let Japan shoot the show and make the toys, bring it over with minimal effort, get their cut.
Not that simple. Saban really pissed in the eye of Toei when they sold the PR rights to Hasbro, since Toei's main partner with Sentai is Bandai.

>>23427422
The problem is irony poisoning. Sentai and Rider have always been fully aware of the fact that they are indeed spandex bugmen karate kicking rubber monsters. Every Power Rangers comic and even the movie they made are ashamed of that. They become ~GRIMDARK~. THIS ISN'T YOUR DADDY'S POWER RANGERS! And then they're shocked when it flops because Grimdark Power Rangers is just the DC Expanded Universe.

The other half of it is just tell the story you want to tell. Stop checking off diversity boxes to get World Firsts like it's some kind of World of Warcraft achievo. "First female red!" "First gay green!"
That's great. How good is your story? Oh, it's dogshit because you spent two episodes of a 13 episode series preaching instead of telling a coherent story?

> just bring Sentai over
Japan is notoriously nervous about dubs because martial art dubs and Japanese movies were historically of low quality/mocked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0dBNJnBd7A

>>23428291
Toei has more to lose than to gain by not working with Hasbro. People are harping about Toei getting booty blasted over that Hasbro dude. Money trumps all.

>>23428603
Everything from the Orient was mocked back then. Nobody took dubs seriously because of the lips not matching what was said.

Sentai will never make it in the US. Subs are impossible because no kid wants to waste time reading and live action dubbing is awkward.

They should just get over themselves and help bring in sentai for PR. They could use all the money since they've slipped from #2 economy in the world to #5 (India even beats them) in just 25 years this new millennium.

>>23427531
I also think people tend to overstate how 1:1 Time Force is to Timeranger. I guess on the Ranger side it is pretty close, but on the villain end, Ransik, Nadira and Frax had very different motives and character arcs compared to Dolnero, Lila and Gien, and the villains are basically what made Time Force memorable anyway.

>>23430228
>They should just get over themselves and help bring in sentai for PR
What’s that supposed to mean? PR is going the way of robotech

>>23428603
> "First female red!"
This is such a deathflag for any toku-esque project. I'm not even against in principle it's just such an obvious sign of fucked priorities that it reeks of virtue signaling over actual storytelling.

>>23430303
PR is more popular than sentai is outside of Japan. Toei used to be accommodating when they rode high on the gravy train from all the dosh PR used to make them.

Robotech is a completely different beast I agree. Robotech wishes it had about 3 decades worth of continuing seasons instead of compiling 3 anime into 1.

I doubt Toei would refuse Hasbro if they actually reached out for footage for new Power Rangers seasons. It's Hasbro that just wants to milk MMPR for the time being.

>>23430310
I was actually thinking what you meant was that they should adapt sentai seasons as PR installments like they used to, turn out I hit the nail right. And there’s cases where the Japanese agree that some stories were told better than the original sentai counterparts

>>23430317
Yah. Sentai is on life support as it is since japs aren't producing enough keeps and keep declining in numbers. So better to just let sentai become PR.

>>23430310
>>23430316
"PR" is really only "MMPR". The majority of the money PR's ever made was during the MMPR craze and that only lasted for a few years. Everything else only generated pocket change. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises#cite_note-PowerLicense-368

From a corporate standpoint, Hasbro is absolutely correct on banking on the iteration of the IP that actually made money. Everyone recognizes the Dragonranger suit as THE Green Ranger, even people who weren't born when Green with Evil aired,, nobody thinks of Samurai or RPM Green as more than "a" Power Ranger suit.

>>23428291
Why won't Hasbro and Bandai work together again? Hasbro makes Gobots Transformers, so the relationship can't be that bad.

>>23430330
Delusional.

>>23430335
jap autism. The balls in their corner.

>>23430334
This is true, but PR was still a major money-maker and gamechanger in kid entertainment in the mid-to-late 90s

They just need to focus on making quality stories and characters again.

>>23430335
I guess it’s kinda different in regards with PR being based on an already existing property while transformers was a collaborative effort that hasbro started…which also was adapted through multiple lines of toys

>>23430341
>They just need to focus on making quality stories and characters again.
They're fuck then since they can't.

>>23430346
PR has contributed greatly to sentai. There wouldn't even be sentai without US input. Sentai in Gorenger and J.A.K.Q. failed. It became Super Sentai via Battle Fever J by adapting Marvel superheroes as well as the Toei Spider-Man.

Sentai was declining in ratings in Japan as well as toy sales. PR gave them fresh injections of cash to finance more projects.

>>23430335
Guess who's Hasbro partner in Japan is

>>23430341
In the west PR was displaced by anime, which had the same things Americans found appealing about PR but was better suited for them. Audiences liked the over the top, colorful action and character designs, which anime delivers in a format (animation) better suited for such things.

PR's biggest handicap for American audiences is being live-action and yet being live-action is what makes PR what it is.

>>23430360
Takara can mend fences with Bandai since the're both jap firms. Toei and Bandai need to quit being so damned prideful and just make an agreement.

>>23430365
Live action is still going strong in the US. We just need for it to quit being so damned snarky and grimdark. The new Superman movie has a Superman whose earnest and good-natured. We need PR doing that with writers who understand kids.

>>23430366
Why are you PRfags so adamant that these companies bend over backwards to appease you when no one cares about PR outside of MMPR anymore? Anyone who liked the medium jumped over to sentai already anyway.

>>23430365
I think that as anime is becoming more normalized and especially a lot of writers who grew up during Heisei where Super Hero Time was considered to be in a really good spot (look at how many writers might cite something like Kamen Rider Ryuki as an influence, and how there are even normalfag-tier anime that are directly referencing toku such as Kaiju #8 or Ranger Reject), and with the success of capeshit that now would be a decent time to push towards it more if Toei wanted.

>>23430388
Zeztz is having a big push in the West. Sentai is in limbo since nobody can agree on what to do.
Tokusatsu only appeals to mecha anime fans and more serious weebs who want to explore the inspirations behind their favorite shows. Most anime watchers think tokusatsu is childish trash because it has no romance, it has no waifus, and it has monsters of the week. How will you get normie weebs who watch Dandadan and One Piece to switch to something so different?

>>23430416
toku has waifus, you just need to have yellow fever first

>>23430416
Also, Zeztz seems to be trying a lot to be "cool" in a way that's presumably appealing to westerners. Everything we've seen so far seems to be on the lower end in terms of offlandish motifs. Gavv may be a relatively dark show, but imagine trying to sell to American kids the idea of some dude transforming with the power of snacks.

>>23430354
Goranger was a massive hit, it just bombed with JAKQ. Sentai then had a solid decade of success well before PR was a thing.

>>23430341
>PR was still a major money-maker and gamechanger in kid entertainment in the mid-to-late 90s

That was a totally different era. That kind of pop culture can never happen against thanks to network tv no longer being the only cultural engine anymore.

>>23430449
Goranger was brand new and it was a long-spanning series which even had one of its sentai Yellows get killed and replaced. It was ahead of its time so no surprise it got numbers because it new and shiny. JAKQ killed it and they had to rework the sentai formula by incorporating US motifs and aesthetics with Battle Fever J and Toei Spider-Man.

>Sentai then had a solid decade of success well before PR was a thing.
Yeah because it had the giant robots that Toei Spider-Man introduced.

>>23430454
Cape movies and shows are still going strong. PR just needs to have competent writers at the helm. Hire the japs for cheap to make cool things like ninjas, samurai, mystical creatures, etc. and not dopey shit they like to do.

>>23430430
Zeztz isn't being marketed to Western kids. It's being made for the teen/adult weeb market.
>imagine trying to sell to American kids the idea of some dude transforming with the power of snacks.
I could see that happening. Make a blind bag series out of the henshin items, add food-based Granutes as more blind bag bait, add lots of grossout jokes, and you're golden.

>>23430466
I'm pretty sure Kamen Rider can't be marketed to western kids anyway because it's kind of merch (belts and henshin gadgets that look just like the ones in the show) go against the US toy broadcast laws that are the reason Yugioh cards couldn't look like the actual cards in real life in the US dub version.

>>23430459
PR doesn't have DC and Marvel's almost century long history and iconic status. It's seen as a hokey spandex show that was a fad in the 90s for 3 years. It will never have the kind of power mainstream cape stuff does.

>>23430286
A lot of it was post 9/11 censorship but time force was also the benchmark for overuse of sentai footage vs original fight footage until the very next year with wild force.

>>23428603
>>23430228
It's not an issue on Toei's side. Kamen Rider's newest show will be simulcasted on western regions and apparently the toys are also making it over there too. Problem with Sentai is that the distribution and toy rights belong to other companies (Saban/Disney/Hasbro) because of the old deals so they can't really do much until those expire and are no longer passed around between the execs' friends.

>>23430531
>because it's kind of merch (belts and henshin gadgets that look just like the ones in the show) go against the US toy broadcast laws
Power Rangers changers and weapons are the exact same way, and never ran into that issue all the way through its run. Hell, KR Ryuki adaptation didn't run into it either
I've heard the same thing in the context of the YuGiOh dubs before, but never seen anyone point to a specific regulation that actually relates (the closest thing is a ban on airing commercials for the toys during the breaks for that show, e.g. airing commercials for YGO cards during the commercial break in the middle of an episode of YGO). They even used the same card layouts for the dub of the Bonds Beyond Time movie, which was non-broadcast and so not subject to FCC rules. A more likely explanation is that the totally textless layout was so they could send their edited footage to other foreign-language dubbing companies who'd licensed YGO, for a fee of course. I know for a fact the Italian and Spanish dubs both used 4kid's edited footage, for example, and a quick check tells me the French dub does too

>>23430598
>apparently the toys are also making it over there too.
Where? Walmart? Gamestop? BBTS? Amazon?

>>23430603
The story I've heard on the Yugioh change is largely because, yes, they were compelled to airbrush the Japanese cards regardless and it's easier to just make one unified "any language dub" text (the Rush Duel anime have been maintaining the practice of editing the cards even though there's literally no product sold in the West) but I've also heard that the legal aspect was something that they might have gotten more scrutiny over since they were actually playing with the same physical objects, the series is about a card game instead of it being like a superhero series that happens to have a toy tie-in.
It isn't exactly disallowed to have it be explicitly a commercial but it does add some red tape and extra costs so anything to reduce the direct comparison to the game is "more useful than not."

>>23430354
>There wouldn't even be sentai without US input.
then how come Sentai is still ongoing despite PR taking long hiatuses and the show now being buried for the time being

>>23430306
What’s wrong with Amelia being red?

>>23430816
Because this one anon is just an idiot who insists PR made Sentai and Toei should be kissing it's ass and giving all their money to PR to keep it going and just kill Sentai and run PR in Japan because PR was big for 2 years 30 years ago.

>>23430819
Why should a girl be red?

>>23430383
At this point it's cope

>>23430819
>What’s wrong with Amelia being red?
I'm not against a girl red the same way I'm not against a blue being leader. But it's easy to tell when things like this are done for subversive reasons and that shit is always cancerous to an ip built on campy fun.
If someone said that the red of their series team was female because she an homage to Barbarella then I would be fine with it because coming from a place of sincerity.

>>23430306
It already happened with both Samurai and the sentai equivalent.

Latest PR basically wrote for tokutwitter, not for kids. Remember when they admitted that one scene in Cosmic Fury was a trans allegory?

>>23427350 (OP)
>Kamen Rider when
There's an emote in the OG pass that looks a bit like Accel's bike mode.

>>23430306
I'm fine with a female red in theory but it has to be a natural decision or something with plot relevance, not a decision made because a higher-up didn't want a male lead.

Honestly Amelia as red made sense within Dino Fury/Cosmic Fury's storyline. It didn't bother me and could have been much worse.

>>23431019
See >>23430987

>>23431021
>Latest PR basically wrote for tokutwitter, not for kids
This is the issue I take with most of this "female red" stuff.

The audience is largely going to be younger boys by a big majority. No one is complaining about a female leader when Kakuranger, Timeranger, Time Force etc. can pull it off. But the red is something that is supposed to be for this audience as the "hero" and doing something for people that aren't your primary audience as the protagonist is just retarded.

>>23431146
We need to get the boys to accept a strong female lead so they don't grow up with toxic masculinity. The future is female!

>>23430286
>I guess on the Ranger side it is pretty close
Only Wes and Eric really, and Sion I guess.
Blue's plotline doesn't exist in PR.
Yellow was a single episode and with a different outcome.
Pink and Red never developed an actual romance.

>>23430416
>Most anime watchers think tokusatsu is childish trash because
their frame of reference for toku is PR.

>>23431595
nta but toku is for children, you're supposed to buy the toys
moms and dads are periphery

>>23431563
>Blue's plotline doesn't exist in PR.
Thet still adapt this episodes, just cutting it... which, yeah, it's kind of dumb and results in people often considering him the blandest cast member in Time Force.

Also, in spite of changing the core villain motivations, the entire end-game still gets taken mostly from Time Ranger aside from Hansik final battle. It's the kind of show that often recreated even camera angles used by the Sentai for scenes with the American cast.

>>23431021
>tokutwitter
Anything made for a cesspit like that will just be an endless loop of references, meta humor and navel gazing.

>>23427350 (OP)
man they look so cool

>>23430855
Well he's technically not wrong. Toei had decades to market sentai in the biggest world market and failed so PR was necessary

>>23428291
I wonder if the new blood at Toei clashed with their predecessors over the stupid terms of the contract they signed?

>>23427456

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vslyGDQ912Y

Apparantly King ohger would be tough to adapt due to all the green screen effects and other stuff they would have to replicate. But they did mention liking the suit designs.

>>23427357
>>23427422

Is Disney involved in production? I heard they were just going to be a streaming platform for the show?

I know most people would prefer adaptations again but I honestlly think power rangers needs to try and do its own thing. Most of the past neo saban and hasbro adaptations have been very hit or miss so I don't have faith a King ohger or boonboomger adaptation for example would be good un;ess you have the right people on the team.

They really need to learn to embrace the silly and unique aspects of sentai shows. Not everything has to be super mature or grimdark. Plus i think instead of aiming at younger kidst hey need to aim for slightly older kids. Maybe then they wouldn't have to worry too much about all these dumb show requirements past adaptations had to adhere to.

>>23432668
The whole point of PR was making a show for cheap based on Japanese costumes and footage readily available. You really fucking think that Disney or Hasbro or any other company is going to pony up cash for a cheap show that they obviously pander to manchildren?

I was a die hard PR fan growing up as a kid in the 2000's. Now I look back at it with cringe and I have to say that PR needs to be mercifully killed off.

>>23432675

Yes thats true it began that way. But in this day and age where its easy to see what the original source is like i think being cheap doesn't work anymore.

Plus imagine if this new show is going to be completely original. I feel like they won't do the usual 40 or something episodes like that past adaptations have done. I could see them doing a season of maybe 10 or 20 episodes. Maybe then they'd have more of a budget to make something good. An interview I saw recently mentioned they wanted to have original zords for cosmic fury but went with Kyuranger footage due to budget concerns.

>>23431021
still surreal that they not only made a "zaito says trans rights" scene but actually admitted to it

>>23432685
We're in a major economic downturn. No company is going to go for original stuff which costs money.

>>23432691

We'll just have to wait and see what they do. For now it could go either way until we get more information on production or until preview or something show up.

>>23428192
PR is a cheap show to produce and usually returns net gains, even if modest. Theres no reason to stop unless it actually becomes unprofitable.
When in NZ, the average cost to produce a season (22 eps) was $20 mil US, before all the tax breaks they got from NZ, lowering their investment to around $14 mil. Theyre moving filming to the UK, now that it has even better tax benefits than NZ these days.
The latest series, Cosmic Fury, did pretty good with kids, the problem was that Hasbro gave up on it 6 months before it even aired and only had 3 shitty toys produced. Kids would've bought them if they made them. Viewing numbers are still good for older seasons on Netflix too, though been lowering as they get older, as to be expected.

>>23431081
Amelia led the team without Zayto in the Dino Fury finale, to fight the giant monster without their zords. She also showed leadership before she became red in CF. If Zayto's stay in CF was temporary then it makes sense for her to be red. Imo, she earned it, it wasn't just arbitrary "girl power".

>>23431702
Not all Toku is for children.
Garo comes to mind.

>>23432924
It would be hard for adults in the west to take Garo seriously. The only way would be to remove everything that makes it toku, put a much higher budget in the suits. It would be panned and compared to Power Rangers no matter how adult it actually was.
Though a lot consider how mature a show is, is by how many times they can say "fuck" in a single episode, so maybe that could save it.

The transformation sequence in cosmic fury where they pull down the helmets was pretty cool

>>23432914
PR was cheap because Sentai did most of the heavy lifting for them. They aren't doing that because they want to milk MMPR, which means most cost on themselves.

>>23432974
How much do you think Sentai's budget is?

>>23433017
Budget per episode isn't the issue, Sentai took care of the main design costs, and the monster suits and robot fights which are the real money sinks. Going solo means PR has to foot all that themselves. Which is why the monsters in Once and Always looked so bad and they had to opt for a shitty CGed Megazord fight.

>>23433024
I honestly wonder how PR would handle monsters without the Sentai designs propping them up
A lot of PR original monsters were either kitbashed from old suits or kind of generic like Grumm who was a discount Skeletor

>>23433034
Lord Zedd, insect Trakeena and most recently Scrozzle were pretty good. I wouldn't call Mesogog a "full" monster suit but his base form was good too.

>>23433024
They already did all of that except the zords in Cosmic Fury.

May I ask why Power Rangers persists the way it does? Seriously, it has changed ownership three times and is currently on (at least) its second clear cancellation, yet they still don't seem to give up on bringing it back yet again. And... Well... They're still doing the whole "Sentai with reshoots" thing, after 30+ years. It seems to me that these types of cut and paste translations eventually stop with that kind of nonsense and either:
A) Stop trying to mold existing material into something "new" and just start producing normal normal dubs.
B) Stop taking existing material entirely and starting producing new stuff from scratch like a respectable production.
But no, so far every single PR show is a Super Sentai show with new scenes of American actors (or Kiwis with fake American accents) replacing most non-action scenes. It was a bizarre thing when they did it back in the day and it's even more bizarre that they've done 30 seasons like this. And no, it's not "a clever alternative to dubbing" or "a good way to save money on the SFX budget", it's just weird. If it actually was a good idea to do this kind of thing, then many Hollywood action flicks would have lifted at least 30% of their runtime from some other movie, instead they keep blowing 200 million dollars every time they make an action movie at a high risk. Not saying that's a good idea either, most of those movies could probably be made with like one third or less if they prioritised camera technique and made tighter scripts that didn't need to feature a million reshoots just because they realised too late that the plot makes no sense, which still doesn't require them to lift the action scenes from elsewhere.

>>23433552
PR has basically been the only kids' live action superhero show since its debut. It persisted because by the late 90s/early 2000s, kids' live action TV was dead except for Disney sitcoms. Furthermore, PR offers something different from Western superheroes (focus on colorful masks and robots), so it stands out and looks fresh in the West. It also will always have lots of toys to bring in money, even if nobody watches the show.
>And no, it's not "a clever alternative to dubbing" or "a good way to save money on the SFX budget", it's just weird.
It is a good way to save money. PR is so cheap to make that even Cosmic Fury made money. Nobody watches PR except kids and manchildren, so it's not comparable to big Hollywood movies. Dubbed Sentai would be too alien and awkward outside Asia because of the lips not matching and everyone being Japanese for no reason.

>>23433628

I think dubbed sentai and kamen rider could work on things like streaming latforms where they have anime as well like crunchyroll or netflix.

>Final PR series was Dino Fury/Cosmic Fury
>Also the show that had 2 lesbians
>Gets canceled

>>23433833
Not a chance in hell. Dubbed Asian media is never popular

>>23433552
They tried an original Power Rangers movie in 2017 and it bombed HARD so I see why they went right back to sticking with Sentai footage after that.

>>23427401
I have some good news for you about Fortnite's relationship with the Toei people.

>>23433552
Are you saying Hollywood should have been Godfrey Ho-ing it all this time?

>>23434188
I know they did collab with Toei to put Dragon Ball and some other anime in Fortnite, but isn't their animation department different from their live action department?

>>23434285
Fortnite did a collab with King-Ohger, but it's nothing more than stages based on the locations from the show

>>23433552
>If it actually was a good idea to do this kind of thing, then many Hollywood action flicks would have lifted at least 30% of their runtime from some other movie,
The main difference is that Hollywood is the biggest, most high-budget source of movies in the world, has been since the 1930s, and there's really no viable pool of alternative sources that Hollywood productions can draw from. There's no other country producing anything to the same level as a Hollywood blockbuster. Meanwhile, the big hero toku shows stand out for being some of the most polished and generally well-produced examples around of a kids' action TV series. It's a niche (action) within a niche (kids' TV) within a niche (TV), but it's one they've undeniably managed to come out on top of after decades of refinement of their production processes. Like a microcosm of the way the Hollywood (and adjacent) production companies have spent the best part of a century building up their fiefdom in Los Angeles dedicated solely to producing movies, which now no one can compete with. Toei and Tsuburaya have spent 60-some years achieving the same thing for latex monsters and masked superheroes
Not to mention the way in which American production companies really don't prioritise kids' programming. It's all well and good talking about the $hundreds-of-millions movies, but a kids' show isn't getting anywhere near the same budget-per-minute. The other Anon mentioned how Disney/Nick's live action output into the 2000s was almost wholly sitcoms, and a big part of that is that they're just very cheap, and pretty simple to produce. Being able to lift the expensive and difficult bits from somewhere else is a very appealing prospect to studios who are reluctant to invest in more than some basic domestic sets, because they don't think kids' TV is worth investing too much into in the first place

>>23434308
Isn't it kinda pathetic that the largest big budget movie industry in the world would Godfrey Ho a Japanese kid series instead of making it from scratch?

>>23434185
The designs sucked but I liked the personalities of the Rangers and having Rita be the former Green Ranger and betrayed Zordon, the former Red Ranger.

>>23434180
Yeah the US has this allergy to watching Asians

>>23434429
>the largest big budget movie industry in the world would Godfrey Ho a Japanese kid series instead of making it from scratch?
It's not the movie industry making Power Rangers for TV. Even in the years when it was technically under Disney's umbrella, that was only via the ABC Family subsidiary, not a major studio with direct Disney bigbucks. Meanwhile, the last two series were some Frankenstein's Production, divided up between a made-for-purpose Power Rangers Productions studio and the Canadian arm of Lionsgate. Again, there's a big gulf between major movie production and kids' TV production. American TV production in general (at least the LA side of it, the NY side's a different story) has largely always ridden Hollywood's coattails, picking up scraps from the far more lavish movie productions, and the studios churning out Power Rangers were no exception. Small sub-companies of much larger powerhouses, who only have access to a fraction of the company's resources
Hell, on all 3 occasions that actual, theatrical PR movies were produced, they were entirely original footage. Because Toei stuff looks good enough to broadcast on an American kid's programming block, but wouldn't pass muster in an American theatre

>>23434445
Yeah I know there's a gulf between TV and movie, but look at Smallville. I grew up with that at age 7 to 17 when it ended. The effects have aged well to this day and that was arguably a toku superhero series.

PR just needs to die and be forgotten. It's kinda humiliating that the US TV industry needed to cut and splice a Japanese kid show instead of making their own live action superhero thanks to some money-grubbing shitrag.

>>23434458
CW DC shows is practically henshin heroes for the US. Love em or hate em modern PR should strive to be like them, but only the good parts (aka early Arrowverse)

>>23434470
Well yeah. Smallville paved the way for Arrow (which I thought was going to be a spinoff but then saw it was an original production). Then we got Flash (Seasons 1-4 were god tier), Legends of Tomorrow, Stargirl (pissed this ended), Supergirl, etc.

Oh Lois & Superman had no fucking right to be as good as it did. It's probably the best rendition of Superman/Clark Kent and Lois Lane along with Dean Cain and Teri Hatcher in Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman.

>>23434477
Funny I was super hesitant on startinf Superman & Lois because 1) Arrowverse had already run its course and 2) Back then even if it was good I was worried they'll lose steam like Arrow and Flash did. But the show keeps getting great word of mouth ajd especiappy it ended well. I gotta start that.

>>23434477
Smallville was goated as an elseworld.

>>23434491
I say this as someone who had ZERO expectations for Lois & Superman.

It fucking nails the whole concept of WHO Superman and Clark Kent are. Good-natured and wants to be the best of what he's observed in humanity. Too many dipshits think that Superman is boring because he's a god. No, he's a guy who knows he's an outsider and conscious of it, but he was raised in a loving family and a comfy town where he attained his moral fiber. Why is Superman so much of a paragon? Or at least tries to be? Because he wanted to be as human as everyone else and he subconsciously exhibits what truly makes humans admirable like courage and empathy.

And it does Lana Lang fucking justice. Not even Smallville did this with the character and I'm also a long-time Emmannuelle Chriqui fan ever since I saw Snow Day.

Lois is fantastic. She's exactly what I expect of a hard-hitting reporter who marries Clark Kent and is also Superman's wife and secret keeper.

And Lex...I'm a huge Band of Brothers fan and the actor is one of the best interpretations of Luthor. Michael Rosenbaum's in Smallville and Clancy Brown's in the DCAU were the standard for me, but Lois and Superman's Lex is far more brutish yet deadly. I really liked how they made his villainy partly the fault of the leading cast.

>>23434504
It's really easy to dismiss TV series in favor of movies, but the episode format leaves a whole lot more room for characterization. I never thought the Flash would be palatable to normies, but they made it work. Then they tried to go all in on the shared universe shit and kind of blew it.

>>23434514
Nah, I always preferred TV because they have more time to develop characters and storylines.

And what made Flash so damned charming in Seasons 1-4 was that Grant portrayed him as a likable guy who just wanted to save people. That's the whole core of the Flash.

Superman soars above the people.
Batman lurks in the shadows and terrifies.
But the Flash runs alongside the people and engages with them.

And yeah the shared universe pissed me off and I stopped watching sometime right before covid hit.

>>23434526
Capeshit media is just doomed to repeat the same issues the comics have. It's really hard to balance the need for stories to have meaningful consequences and the necessity of having a recognizable star. You can see it in the MCU and how poorly they've integrated the post-Thanos cast members. Maybe Gunnverse will be different, but we'll have to see how Lanterns plays out.

>>23434503
The CW

This entire topic is cringe and you fools keep repeating yourselves.

1. No one cares about Japanese Sentai with its cringe acting. It will NEVER be popular in America. Never. Power Rangers will always be superior. Stop comparing them. End of discussion.

2. Power Rangers can easily make a comeback.

Just cast HOT girls in semi-revealing clothes and muscular attractive young men as the Rangers. No uggos or actors who aren't trained in martial arts. No diversity hires that suck. No mystery meat leaders.

Go back to roots of Power rangers. Cool ground battles against putties with lots of Martial arts and cool impact sound effects. Less reliance on guns. More cool Explosions. Add Giant monsters and Giant robots fighting and destroying the city.

3. No more stories that only appeal to 4 year old children with cringe baby acting. Advertise to young boys instead.

Problem solved. Power Rangers is back.

Now stop wasting thread space over your useless posts. You are repeating the same nonsense over and over again.

>>23434945
>You are repeating the same nonsense over and over again.

Says the /prg/ guy who wait for the tiniest nugget of information to start a thread again.

>>23434945
>Problem solved. Power Rangers is back.
Basically you want to make it more masculine, hot blooded, and action filled. Very old school. I get that. Your plan probably would work. It's very simple. But it's funny because the current owners of Power Rangers, Hasbro, would NEVER do it. They are very anti-masculine, anti-male gaze, and all about corporate approved "diversity". They are basically still living in 2018.

>>23434945
Weak bait.

>>23435127
You are stupid. I didn't start this thread and if I had the chance I would delete it. Of all the posts on this thread why would think I am the OP. I mean really? How stupid can you be. Pick better next time.

>>23435134
The pendulum is starting to swing back because they're realizing wokeness doesn't equate to profits

>>23435140
There's a lot of fanatical PR fanboys who think this way

>>23435164
>The pendulum is starting to swing back because they're realizing wokeness doesn't equate to profits
True. But companies are so slow to change. It may take another 5 years before Hasbro finally changes, fixes their mistakes, and makes a more masculine appealing Power Rangers.

Another issue is a lot of the people in charge at Hasbro are very anti-Trump and anti-Republican. Multiple CEOs have made multiple anti-trump remakes. And 94% of the Hasbro Executives have donated to the Democratic party. That's a very clear bias. So Hasbro may just refuse to change power rangers and crash the franchise into the ground out of personal spite against Trump and maculinity. Just look at the reaction to a simple Sydney Sweeney jeans commercial. They turned rapid.

>>23435196
>Multiple CEOs have made multiple anti-trump remakes.
what's wrong with being hating pedos?

>>23435418
Pedos who are out there hating on things have no right to complain because they're pedos.

>>23435602
in English please?

>>23435605
If you're being a hating pedo, you are a pedo who hates.

>>23435609