The most successful Gundam anime in history and will likely never be surpassed. UCfags cope and sneed about it.

>>23434420 (OP)
I like UC but Cosmic Era just hits different. Everything related to it is just gigabased every time.

Who cares? Evangelion is infinitely more succesful.

>>23434476
>Who cares?
I do.

Am I the only one that thinks Kira would do really well piloting a GINN?

>>23434486
it doesn't suit his hero style but sure
Athrun piloting a Zaku and Gouf in Destiny was kino tho

>>23434420 (OP)
Too bad Hiraiface. If SEED doesn't have Hiraiface it's automatically god tier.

The coolest Gundam and the face of the franchise alongside the RX-78.

>>23434420 (OP)
Fuck SEEDfags. I feel sorry that you love the shitty artstyle.

>>23434632
But enough about Gcucks.

>>23434654
Obsessed.

>>23434713
NTA, but literally how?

>>23434569
I feel there's a case for it at least in space. The GINN definitely has maneuverability, and that's one of the most important things for Kira's fighting style. All it really needs is a good shield and maybe some shoulder cannons. I'd say he would at least manage as well as he did in the Strike Rouge.
>Athrun piloting a Zaku and Gouf in Destiny was kino tho
Agreed.

>enter SEED thread to hate on it
>NO YOU ARE THE ONE WHO'S OBSESSED!!!!!!!!!
cucksbrain

>>23434420 (OP)
UC boomers holding Gundam back with their UC wank.

>>23434569
Him piloting the Infinite Z'Gok was also pretty based in Freedom.

>>23435919
One of my favorite moments/fights from the movie.

>>23434420 (OP)
Ok, Kaihedgie.

I don't even know how people like this movie. It fucking sucked and ends the exact same way as Destiny.
>GOOD GUYS WIN
>FLAWLESS VICTORY
Using their old suits, just labeled as spec II, for maximum 'member berries.
The art style is clean and looks good but if that's all it takes to win over these people then get fucking ready for AI Gundam sooner rather than later.

>>23436432
holy speedwatcher

>>23436442
Why even bother speedwatching? You can literally watch the first 10 minutes of the movie and the last 10 minutes and not miss a thing.
The movie is stupid and no amount of ACKSHUALLY is going to make it not a pointless return to status quo.

>>23436442
Don't feed it.

>>23436229
>Kaihedgie
??

>>23434738
>cucksbrain

Enough about Kuckira

>>23436759
CHADira broke you.

>>23434420 (OP)
Notice how the SNEEDfag must talk about popularity and success instead of quality and artistic merit.

>>23434420 (OP)
I've never watched anything Seed related, is it actually good or is it a "you had to be there at the time" sort of thing?

I was going to make the argument that Universal Century could make something that's a bigger box office smash, but honestly looking at the data, I think it might be impossible. A Wing movie might be able to do it, but I think UC fatigue is a real issue.

>>23437385
SEED has always been controversial, but it still has massive enduring popularity to this day for a reason.

Duel won.

>>23437401
IIRC, in Japan the Cosmic Era is the second most popular Gundam universe after Universal Century.

>>23437337
As opposed to who, midwit?

>>23437421
"Second" might be up for debate...

>>23437426
Notice how the SNEEDfag didnt even try to challenge my statement because he implicitly acknowledges it as true.

>>23437337
It's popular and a success because of its quality and artistic merit obviously

>>23438070
>Whining about deflection while dodging a question that ruins his entire narrative

>>23438108
Ruin what narrative? I dont even understand how >>23437426
is relevant at all to what I said unless you mean to imply everyone is a faggot that only appraises stories based on popularity and commercial success instead of substance, writing quality and artistic merit and its impossible a thing could be popular but of low quality, so I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

>>23437385
I got into Seed years after Destiny was already done and I loved it. Seed is basically a 2000s retelling of the original Gundam anime. It's not 100% the same beat by beat, but it parallels 0079 a lot. If watching a familiar story with that heavy 2000s anime aesthetic sounds good to you, then I'd recommend giving it a try.

>>23438366
>unless you mean to imply everyone is a faggot that only appraises stories based on popularity and commercial success instead of substance, writing quality and artistic merit
My point was that the only posters on this site that ever discuss the quality of shows are shitposters looking for a fight or folks that literally just finished watching/rewatching something for the first time. That said, have you NOT noticed how autistically dramatic most people are about the commercial success of their shows or their reception in Japan?

>>23438775
>My point was that the only posters on this site that ever discuss the quality of shows are shitposters looking for a fight or folks that literally just finished watching/rewatching something for the first time.
Thats a strange and anecdotal complaint to raise about the attitude of only judging a show for its substance and merit, to which I'll simply say we do get threads seriously discussing the internal consistency of the plot, the way characters develop and the thematic structure of stories as opposed to competitive shitflinging. Shitposting is simply more common than effortposting for obvious reasons, but I dont see that as a reason to dismiss everyone that wants to talk about the substance of a show as a shitposter.
>That said, have you NOT noticed how autistically dramatic most people are about the commercial success of their shows or their reception in Japan?
If were talking Gundam, thats mostly fans of SEED, whatever the newest Gundam is at the time, or Wing fans harping on about how it made Gundam popular in the west. Fans of Tomino Gundam and UC dont constantly post charts, ratings and popularity polls when they want to say their show is better than the rest, because they understand it to be irrelevant. Most people on here fucking hate Unicorn despite it being fairly popular and successful. You'll understand this mindset when you realize 0079 itself was a sleeper hit that failed on its first run and got canceled early, only getting popular during reruns when people were allowed to dwell on what made it good and spread the word; the fact that you are a mecha fan in the english speaking sphere of the anime fandom which doesnt give a shit about mecha that isnt eva or gurren lagann should clue in to this fundamental truth.
The only people that care about popularity for other reasons are those holding out for sequels and model kits, to which popularity is actually relevant.

>>23439868
>which I'll simply say we do get threads seriously discussing the internal consistency of the plot, the way characters develop and the thematic structure of stories as opposed to competitive shitflinging
Threads can and often do have these conversations regardless of how said thread started. This is often the case with SEED threads, and happens even with G-Cucks threads. That said, I don't see why we have to delve so deep into this. Are you actually saying you weren't just shitposting back with your initial reply?
>dont see that as a reason to dismiss everyone that wants to talk about the substance of a show as a shitposter.
Read my post carefully.
> Fans of Tomino Gundam and UC dont constantly post charts, ratings and popularity polls when they want to say their show is better than the rest
UCfags engage in sales against each other all the time. That said, there aren't many that care to say that their shows are better than the rest in the first place these days.
>You'll understand this mindset when you realize 0079 itself was a sleeper hit that failed on its first run and got canceled early, only getting popular during reruns when people were allowed to dwell on what made it good and spread the word
Firstly, wasn't the popularity boost primarily owed to fujos and gunpla? Secondly, all you've done is highlight the importance of popularity since Gundam wouldn't exist as it does without that success. Saying that popularity doesn't matter because a show became popular later on makes no sense.

>>23434420 (OP)
You're fighting shadows. I'm a UC fan and love all UC Gundam shows almost as much as I love AUs like SEED, Wing, 00, WFM and others

>>23440020
>Are you actually saying you weren't just shitposting back with your initial reply?
I was making fun of the fact that when OP was praising SEED, rather than try to mention something substantial in the show or even imply that the contents are good he chooses to allude to commercial success and popularity instead. If you boast about something that is merely related to your object of praise rather than something that is in the object itself that makes it seem as though said thing doesnt have as much actual merit as you pretend it does.
>Firstly, wasn't the popularity boost primarily owed to fujos and gunpla? Secondly, all you've done is highlight the importance of popularity since Gundam wouldn't exist as it does without that success. Saying that popularity doesn't matter because a show became popular later on makes no sense.
This shouldnt be hard to grasp, but Im saying that anecdote about the show illustrates how the quality of the show doesnt strictly correlate with its success and popularity. If it were then 0079 should have been popular out of the gate but it was on life support by fujos and got cancelled until its popularity slowly rose because of TV reruns and Gunpla sales. Notice how the Gunpla or the reruns are unrelated to the quality of the show, only its popularity. 0079 was always good but it took other things to make it become popular and successful, this shows you cant conclude a show is good if its popular, only that a show might become popular if its good. Therefore, SEED, or any popular anime for that matter, isnt necessarily good just because its popular.
>all you've done is highlight the importance of popularity since Gundam wouldn't exist as it does without that success.
What Gundam owes its existence as a product to is irrelevant to whether its good as a piece of art or not. Popularity and success are markers of profitable entertainment, which SEED certainly is, but not surefire ways of identifying good art, which SEED probably isnt.